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October 2, 2025 • 37 mins
This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features Loving County DA Sarah Stogner. ( @KennethRWebster )

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of According to a new report, fifty two of Americans
are going to dey their kids' costumes in an effort
to save money. They're gonna make their own costumes for
their children. And I know it sounds like a good idea,
but here's what you don't realize. You're gonna pay ten

(00:36):
times as much for therapy after all the bullying. So
just something to think about, right, or you could become
a Mormon and skip it, or the Jehovah's witnesses. I
forget what it is. Anyway, here this afternoon, Sarah Stagner
will be calling in Charlotte. You probably don't remember her.
She got naked on an oil well or what was
it called Billiard? What was it called a derek? It's
called a pump jack. Billy had said, it's called a

(00:57):
pump jack. She was running for what was it? Railroad commissioner?
And a while back, you remember she was a chick
that got naked on a pump jack. She lost to
Wayne Christian. He's kind of a goober. And then anyway,
it doesn't matter. She moves out to West Texas. She
runs for DA in this little county called Loving County.
Forty people live there, so it was a pretty interesting

(01:18):
little hustle there. She immediately became DA. Well, it turns
out she's not the only one that thought of that.
There's this guy named doctor Malcolm Tanner. Now, as far
as I can tell, he's not a real doctor, nor
is he a real messiah. But he's tricks the people
into thinking that he's starting at what looks like an
RV park, but it's actually a cult for black people
from Indiana down in West Texas. I know. This is

(01:38):
a weird story. And so now she's in a melee,
if you will, figuratively speaking with this guy as he's
trying to take over the county with his weird black cult.
It's not weird because they're black. It's just weird, you know,
it's a cult. I mean, they could be any color
and they'd still be weird. Not trying to make this
into a race thing. Hill, not her Shelby. Here we
didn't book him. That'd be great if we get doctor

(01:59):
Malcolm Tanner on the show. I reached out. Turns out
not a lot of cult leaders want to talk to me.
I don't know what it is about me, but anyway,
Sarah Stagner will be here the DA of Loving County West.
It's gonna get weird. And then who else is here?
Oh yeah, very funny. Comedian Tim Mathis is going to
call in shortly.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Tim Mathis is one of the guys that started Operation
Comedy Therapy with me and now he lives in New
Mexico out in Albuquerque where he runs a comedy club.
He's going to be calling in to tell us about
the latest from Hollywood. Stick around for that. See tomorrow
Billiad he's leaving. Billiad's leaving. But then anyway, so that's
going on, that'll be a thing. Stick around for that.
But you know, before we get to any of it,

(02:37):
one hundred and fifty four thousand federal bureaucrats who accepted
Trump's buyouts will be removed from the payroll this week. Now.
This is according to a new report at Breitbart. This
is the largest one year exodus of federal workers in
over eighty years. It's a big damn deal. To those

(02:57):
of you that are mad right now about the government shutdown,
understand the government shutdowns happening because of a budget crisis.
I know I'm speaking the obvious here, but as the
interest rates increase and the amount of debt that we
owe increases, these budget crises are going to be more frequent.
Right now, it happens once every eight months. Pretty soon
it's gonna be once every seven months. Then there's going
to be once every seven weeks, then it's going to

(03:18):
be once every seven days. You think that sounds crazy,
it is, all right. I might be exaggerating a little,
but it's gonna get worse. The only way it'll get
better is if we do something about our debt. And
that's the one thing that people in neither parties seem
to want to agree on, or, let me put it differently,
the only thing they can agree on is not doing
anything about it. So as Donald Trump earlier this year

(03:40):
convinced this one hundred and fifty four thousand federal bureaucrats
to quit their job take a payout, and the far
left liberal media is making it sound like this is
some kind of tragedy. It's interesting to think they're doing
this at the same time that this budget crisis is happening.
The liberal media is trying to do with every desperate
for dooms speak. Reuter's had a report on it. Part

(04:02):
of the regime media that cannot stand the idea of
any cuts of any kind ever to the federal government.
The entire story they just published about this is desperate
doom speak. Listen to this. I'll read a little bit
to you here. Here's one subheadline, Health and safety agencies
struggle with struggle with operational disruptions. I'm sorry, what are

(04:22):
the operational disruptions? Well, there really aren't any, but you
could imagine how there could be National Weather Service losers, meteorologists,
technical staff who may contain forecasting equipment. I'm sorry, you're
telling me the meteorologists who are wrong all the time
suddenly don't have jobs anymore. Don't worry. I'm sure I
can inaccurately predict the weather on my own. That'll be fine.

(04:46):
The entire story is premised on this being some sort
of apocalyptic brain drain. Here's a little more of it.
The loss of expertise is making it harder for many
agencies to carry out their work and serve the American public.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh, this is just more proof that the fake media
will interview anyone willing to tell the fake media what
the fake media wants to hear, confirmation bias. They are
around interviewing people who think it's terrible that all these
government employees just agreed to quit their job in an
effort to prevent another budget crisis. And ironically, the mass

(05:21):
exodus of this one hundred and fifty four thousand employees
and the story about them leaving is getting published at
the same time as a government shutdown. Reuters does not
see how ironic they're being. Reuters further warns that by
the end of this year, more than three hundred thousand
total federal employees will be out, based on a combination

(05:41):
of buyouts, job cups, and various incentives, twelve point five
percent of the total federal workforce. And that's supposed to
be scary. I don't think it is. I think it
sounds great. We can only hope there's more. I have
nothing but contempt for government employment. Sorry, I think it's
outrage is that so called civil servants and joint retirement

(06:03):
health insurance and time off benefits that normal people could
only dream of. Very idea that public unions exist is
a little confusing. Who do these unions see as their antagonist?
You and I the taxpayer? That's who they negotiate against.
Public unions are slush funds for the Democrat Party. Not always,

(06:25):
but often is the case. Obviously, I make an exception
for first responders. I do. I've made that point many times.
Government workers use their government paychecks to pay dues to
these unions, and these unions turn around and funnel billions
to the Democrat politicians and their causes. So the more
Trump can do to weaken this corrupt system, the better
it will be for democracy in America in general.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
You are listening to the Pursuit of happiness radio Pursuit
of happiness.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
We don't have that messical. You gotta admit the sombrero memes,
the outrage over the sobrero meme, it just kind of
reveal who's winning the shutdown fight right now? Oh yeah,
you guys hadn't heard. We're still yeah, we're still doing
the government shutdown thing. In fact, if I'm not mistaken,

(07:18):
don't we have The sombrero music was great? I feel
like we didn't. We didn't do this right. We should
have played the intro first, it's the government shut down.
There we go. Peter Laughin at The Examiner recently asked
a good question. If you want to know who do
you want to know who's winning in politics? Look at

(07:38):
who's laughing and who's trying to keep their chin up.
And that is so true. I'll give you an example.
J'all remember those joyful early days of then Vice President
Kamala Harris's campaign. They were laughing because they thought they
were winning. They kind of were for a minute. But
as soon as her numbers started a nosedive, or rather
as soon as she began speaking off script, the cackles
dissolved into grim stares, into apocalyptic warnings about the fate

(08:02):
of democracy. You remember that it wasn't funny anymore. It
was fun at first. So who's winning the shutdown battle?
It's a pretty good question. I think it's a valid question.
I confess that I don't know why the White House
shared a meme showing Representative Hakim Jeffreys wearing a sombrero
and a big mustache on Wednesday, But I did think
it was funny. It was funny they claim, you know,

(08:24):
it's because they didn't want to have to get free
health care to Mexicans. And to that point, most illegal
immigrants aren't from Mexico. Obviously you've heard. I know. It's
kind of one of the big giant urban myths about
illegal immigration. Oh, it's just a bunch of Mexicans. Actually, no,
they come through Mexico. They're not from Mexico. All I
really know is that I giggled when I saw the

(08:46):
sombrero meme. Oh now we can play the music. Okay,
there we go. But from the reactions on both sides,
it was kind of clear who thought they were winning
the shutdown battle and who just realized they jumped into
a puddle deeper than their own boot. I got a
good laugh, like most of you, out of seeing the
House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffreys sour face sitting in front

(09:08):
of the Resolute desk covered with Trump twenty twenty eight hats.
And look, it's not because I'm some hardcore right wing
sycophant or you know, ideologue or whatever, although I am that.
I liked it because I thought it was funny. It's
just funny. It's the classic comedic setup, the straight man
in the clown butt Abit dead painting lu Costello's wordplay,

(09:32):
and Who's on first? Sean Connery tearing into the somber
Why me? Alec Trebek on Saturday Night Lives Celebrity Jeopardy.
It was funny. One guy made a choke, the other
guy got mad about it. People are who are winning
have fun like this. It's not an attempting to manipulate
the narrative. It's just human nature. And the Republicans are
having fun right now. For one thing, most of us

(09:54):
don't mind that the government shut down. Yeah, we'd prefer
it not be obviously. I'd like all the military veterans
and the soldiers and active duty members of our armed
forces to get paid on time. I would, But I
don't have that choice. So I'm gonna laugh at what's
happening because I can't do anything else about it. The
White House played the Jeffrey sombrero meme on a loop

(10:14):
in the briefing room earlier this week, yesterday, actually, just
to make sure the self serious legacy media would make
a fuss about it. Guess what it worked. They took
the bait. Most people hadn't heard about the sombrero meme
at first, until CNN's Caitlin Collins got mad about it.
She was watching, well, the Yankees beat the Red Sox

(10:35):
earlier this week, and they broke out of that to
tell you on CNN how mad They were doing a
report about baseball news. So now, no, hang on breaking news.
Everybody Donald Trump posts offensive meme. They don't realize just
by acting that way, they make him look so cool.
It sounded, you know, like it could be racist. CNN

(10:56):
had these big bold the letters crawling at the bottom
of the screen. Vance calls racist AI video funny, and
then you watch the video and of course there was
simply nothing racist about it. It's just an AI generated
video of Hakim Jeffries in a sombrero and a mustache
standing behind Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer complaining that minorities
don't vote for Democrats anymore, which is a very real trend.

(11:19):
Hakim is not Mexican. There's nothing anti Mexican about the meme.
It's just kind of goofy, the kind of thing that
inexplicably hits the funny bone and it goes viral. Remember
the baby JD Vance images. I don't know what's behind
those memes either? Does anyone know? I don't know. They're
just funny. Who cares it's funny. It's funny for the
sake of funny. Calm down. So all that being said,

(11:43):
you enjoyed it, You had a good laugh. Jefferies later
held a press conference to address the meme, and he
got very, very very mad. Hakim Jeffries was so offended.
Now there's a video of him on the internet being offended,
getting upset, and not surprisingly, a lot of people are
now taking that video and they're adding ai generated sombreros

(12:06):
and music and that sort of thing. They're taking the
very thing he was mad about, and they're making it
even funnier.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Book guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes
Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all
of our woke trans Not even black people want to
vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we
need new voters. And if we give all these illegal
aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get them
on our side so they can vote for us.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
They can't even speak English.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke
pieces of you know, at least for a while until
they learn English and they realize they hate us too.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Book guys, Okay, you get it. Sorry, there was a
little bit of language there if you heard some clipping.
We had to edit that. But so Jeffries holds a
press conference to address the meme, in which she called
the video racist and fake, saying when I'm back in
the Oval office, say it to my face. That's what
he said. And wouldn't that just be a riot Trump
handing Jeffries to sombrero instead of a Trump twenty twenty

(13:04):
eight hat. Later in that same broadcast, Kaylen Collins lamented
of the White House. She said, they simply don't care
about the criticism. Yeah, that's true. They don't. That's why
they're winning, Nor should anyone. Nobody should care. Nobody should
care that they're being criticized. You know how you lose
when you spend a lot of time worrying about what

(13:26):
other people think. America once cared about this kind of criticism,
but then the critics spent years be clowning themselves with
an endless string of fabricated controversies and false reporting and
fake victimhood and suddenly nobody cared anymore. They called you
a Nazi over and over again, until suddenly you forgot

(13:46):
what a nazi even was and you didn't care. Then
they added the word garbage in front of it. Oh,
now I'm a garbage Nazi. Okay, still don't care. No
one takes these critics seriously anymore, no one beyond their sad,
shrinking bubble that is. Did you care that Jimmy Kimmel
is failing? No, you don't care. Maybe you didn't like

(14:06):
that he mocked a guy that died recently, but you
didn't watch, did you No, that wasn't the point when
they put him back on the air. Honestly, did it
affect you? You're still not going to watch. So now
getting back to Hakim Jefferies self, serious democrats and their
media allies just make America laugh and it's good fun

(14:27):
and we should all enjoy it, and we're all better
people because of it. You can't do anything about it.
It's part of the reason why we play stupid recordings
like oh, I don't know this one, he's the government
shut down.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Free specially one right here on proceeds unhappy this radio.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Jane Goodall died rest in peace. Famous for decades of
work with primates, she died yesterday. She is survived by
her son, Hugo, whom friends say was a chimp off
the old Block. Jane knew so much about chimpanzee she
was hired as a consultant on Jersey Shore. I think
that's great. Hi, everybody, welcome back from break. I'm also
told she thought we should kill all the humans. But

(15:22):
you know that's neither here nor there was that basically
the plot line to Planet of the Apes. Irony. Here's
a little more irony. We've been told over and over
again there's no such thing as voter fraud. That's what
they said. Look at what's going on in the state
of Maine right now. Is a report today at bray
part dot com, along with paper plates and a bag
of rice. A woman in Newburgh, Maine, got something on

(15:46):
in the mail recently two hundred and fifty state election ballots.
These arrived about a month before Maine will vote in
a statewide referendum. The referendum is supposed to decide whether
or not to join thirty six other states in requiring
some form of voter id oh irony, so a preliminary
look at the ballots by elected officials which arrives sealed

(16:10):
in packages of fifty concluded that these are legal ballots, which,
as the News points how, it begs the following question,
what assurances do people in Maine have that hundreds, thousands,
or even tens of thousands of ballots aren't currently floating
around unsecured locations waiting to be filled out and deposited

(16:31):
in unmonitored ballot dropboxes throughout the states. It's a pretty
good question, right. There's a gentleman in Maine named Ben Midgley.
He is a Republican candidate for Maine's twenty twenty six
gubernatorial race, and he released a statement calling for a
criminal investigation. Basically, he's saying the ballot scandal demands a

(16:52):
full criminal investigation immediately. He's right. We need to know
exactly what this woman was saying in her text, in
her phone calls, who the Amazon driver was, and how
ballots ended up in an Amazon box with no clear
chain of custody. Why is Amazon sending ballots? Does not
the first scandal to occur under this woman, Shanna Bellows

(17:13):
as she spent taxpayer dollars trying to keep Trump off
the main ballot just a few months ago. Oh yeah,
you guys forgot about that. That was the same person.
You remember her, Remember the woman in Maine who used
taxpayer money to keep the current president off the ballot
in the last election in one of the fifty states.
I think not only do people in Maine deserve to

(17:34):
know the truth, I think we all deserve to know
the truth. What you guys are doing is sketchy. On
top of the dropboxex concern, there are two other concerns here.
First of all, the concern that these two hundred and
fifty ballots somehow fell outside regulations surrounding a required chain
of custody. You know, somebody's supposed to be babysitting the ballots,

(17:55):
not just some Amazon driver. The other day, I was
walking down the s and a guy in an Amazon
truck drove past me. I was carrying a skateboard, you know,
because I'm a degenerate, and he yells at me. He
goes do a kickflip. It's like, wait, do a kickflip?
Deliver a package? Amazon guy, You don't get to boss
me around. You're not to boss of me. You drive

(18:18):
a truck for a live. Not that there's anything wrong
with that, but you know, the point is that that
same guy that was driving by just shouting profanity at me.
I left out part of what he said. He said,
do an effing kickflip. That's I think he was making
fun of me, is the point of the story. Maybe
I'm not communicating that clearly, but my point is that's
the kind of guy that would have been delivering these ballots.
Forget me if I'm a little skeptical. The other concern

(18:41):
is that state elections are run by the state Secretary
of State, and in this case main secretary of state
is an unhinged leftist. So to the chain of custody
point the babysit the ballots point. Under state law, the
secretary of State's office designs, approves, and oversees the distribution
of ballots. Lets must be printed on secure paper, They

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must be shipped in sealed units. They must be delivered
directly to municipal officers under a strict chain of custody role.
Not only do this unidentified woman get these ballots in
an Amazon box, which I've never heard of before. If
you look at the photos in the article and the story,
the box is a mess. It looks as though it
was sealed and then resealed. It looks like someone opened

(19:24):
it and closed it. The woman who received the ballots
said this was how the box looked when it was delivered.
How in the hell? Yeah, it's a good question, right.
Context is crucial for this story. These are the ballots
for the upcoming November fourth vote that will decide whether
or not voter ID will be required in future elections. Oh,
that's interesting. The very thing this election would affect would

(19:48):
make what's happening here totally illegal. Here's a little more context.
In Democrat, the mains have already the Democrats excuse me, sorry,
in Democrats in Maine is the name of the state.
The Democrats, that's the political party. They already admitted that
voter ID is going to cost them thirteen thousand state
wide votes. They've admitted that they're going to lose thirteen

(20:10):
thousand votes. The thirteen thousand losses being used by the
main Democrat party chairman, a guy named Charlie Dingman, to
scare people into voting against the referendum. In a text
message to voters earlier this year, he complained that voter
ID quote could result in a loss of thirteen thousand
Democrat votes. You're probably wondering why. Okay, you're probably not

(20:33):
wondering why, But I'll tell you why would requireing a
valid ID vote kill thirteen thousand Democrat votes? That question
he won't answer, which brings us to mains reprehensible. Secretary
of State Shenna Bellows. This is the Democrat refusing to
resign even though she campaigns for the Democrat nomination in
next year's governor's race. She's running for governor, but she's

(20:56):
also running an election that's going to affect future elections.
Sot's sketchy, doesn't it? That means she's going to oversee
her own election. Isn't that exactly the problem they had
with Brian Kemp and Georgia Whatever. Bellows is so toxic.
She attempted to keep Trump off of the twenty twenty
four general election ballot. She's so toxic. How toxic is she?

(21:18):
She's so toxic. Here's how she worded the voter ID
question on the ballot. I'll read it to you. Quote,
do you want to change main election laws to eliminate
two days of absentee voting? Prohibit requests for absentee ballots
by phone or family members and ongoing absentee voter status
for seniors and people with disabilities. Ban prepaid postage on

(21:38):
absentee ballot return envelopes, limit the number of drug boxes,
require voters to show a certain photo ID before voting,
and make other changes to our elections. Question mark end quote. Wow,
that's that's an actual that's the house. That's how they
phrased it on the ballot. Do I need to draw
a picture for you to explain why the question is
being asked in a very biased way? This woman is

(22:01):
so toxic. She spoke at a conference that had the
stated goal of allowing non citizens to vote in Maine's
local and statewide elections.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Here's her non citizens are prohibited from voting in me.
The lie of non citizen voting, either that it is
something that is allowed or something that is prevalent, has
persisted for many years.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
But it is just that a lie.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh it's interesting, probably kind of relevant. She attended and
spoke at the League of Women Voters of Maine in
twenty twenty three, where they explicitly strategized around non citizen voting.
It was they printed out a blue card that explained
how we can help win by getting non citizens to vote.

(22:48):
This woman is so toxic. How toxic is she? She's
so toxic. She refused to follow the law and turned
Maine's voter rolls over to the Justice Department, even as
she admits some non citizens are on the voter role.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
There are, in some isolated instances, some non citizens maybe
on the rolls.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Guys, you know that superintendent who just got into trouble.
Where was that Iowa or Idaho? Nobody knows the difference.
This guy was an illegal immigrant and he was registered
to vote. This has been all over the news and
we haven't actually spent a lot of time talking about it.
But there was a black gentleman you may have seen

(23:27):
on the news recently, the des Moines superintendent arrested by ice.
He just resigned. He was registered to vote despite the
fact that he was an illegal immigrant. Oh that's interesting.
This guy was actually a voter. Wait, you mean there's
a national news story right now about an illegal immigrant

(23:48):
voting and you're trying to sit out here and tell
me that this stuff never happens. It happens. It happens
all the flip and time, guys. Sorry, non citizens do vote.
That's the whole problem. He was registered to vote in Maryland,
not that far away from Maine. Come on now, wake
up to who we are dealing with here. People. The

(24:09):
Democrat Party is currently one that has made no secret
of its desire to permanently mutilate little kids to appease
their transcots. They've named no secret of the fact they
want to empty the prisons for violent criminals. They want
to flood America with millions of unvetted Third world illegal aliens.
Do you honestly believe that this is a party that
is above shipping hundreds or thousands, or even tens of

(24:30):
thousands of ballots to leftist activists who will fill them
out and drop them off in unsecured drop boxes, especially
with voter idea on the ballot. Do you honestly think
they wouldn't do that?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
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Speaker 2 (24:52):
Keep it here.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
All right?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
This is the song Pump It Up by Elvis Costello.
I'm playing for Sarah Stagner. She is the DA district
attorney in the one hundred and forty third Judicial District
Loving County. But I'm playing this song because she famously
was what did she She wrote on a pump jack
back when she was running for railroad Commissioner against Wayne Christian.

(25:20):
I know some of you didn't like that. I took
Sarah's side in that. I don't care. Wayne Christian's a goober.
I don't like him. I don't like eminent domain. I'm
not going to get by Most of the people on
the Railroad Commission in Texas will bend the knee to
the oil and gas industry. By the way, I'm very
pro carbon fuel. I'm very pro oil and gas. I'm
not pro some corporation pays the government to take your

(25:40):
land away from you. I think that sucks. That happened
several years ago. It's part of the reason why Sarah
Stagner and I became acquaintances, maybe political allies. She's an
attorney and she is the DA of Loving County. If
you never heard of Loving County before, well it's we're
not a lot of people there. It's the least populated
county in the States, out in the middle of the
Permian basin in the middle of nowhere. Sarah is on

(26:02):
the show not long ago because she was in defiance
of Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick's attempt to outlaw marijuana hemp
based products around the state or overregulate them, and she said, no,
it's ridiculous. It's a plant. And you know, by the way,
Sarah is on the MAGA side of this argument. You
remember the reason those products exist in strip malls around
the state is because those CBD shops exist because Donald

(26:27):
Trump signed the Farm Act. A little rumor I heard
recently is that he is about to reschedule hemp based
products and take them off the Schedule one classification. I
don't know when that's going to happen, but he posted
on his personal social media account Truth Social a video
explaining why these CBD and THHC products are actually very
beneficial to older people as they deal with health issues.

(26:50):
That video was not created for me, a millennial. He
posted that video to explain to a bunch of baby
boomers why they need to calm down about marijuana laws.
We'll get to that in a minute. Loving He's in
the news for another reason this week. We've been talking
about this on our Morning show. There's this guy ning
doctor Malcolm Tanner. What kind of doctor is he? A
fake one? As far as I could tell, he is

(27:11):
a guy with a criminal history in Indiana who recently
decided that he's some kind of a messiah. I hope
I'm explaining this right. And he's moving down to West
Texas to the town of Sarah. Why don't I let
you explain? It is the town called Mentone? Is that
what it's called? It is?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
So the county seat of Loving County is Mentone. There's
about eighty eight people that live in the entire county
full time that domiciled there. You know, we've got hundreds
or thousands of guys that come in as temporary workers
and live in man camps and are working in the
oil fields. But yeah, this guy bought ten acres. It's landlocked.
He's got no way to legally access the property except

(27:50):
for trespassing over other people's lands. And he's been advertising
online that he's offering free housing to people that will
come and move and relaf to Loving County. The problem
is is he's got about twelve trailers and about twelve
tenths on his ten acres, and they have no running
water power, anything like that, plumbing. So you've got people

(28:13):
living in squalor, and what I'm worried about is women
and children who may be being trafficked essentially.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay, so that's kind of a big deal, right. The
Houston Chronicle, kind of a liberal news outlet, some would say,
did a story where they made this guy look like
a bad guy. And a lot of the conservatives out
in West Texas they don't like them either. There's not
much in Texas politics that conservatives and liberals seem to
agree on, especially conservative activists in the liberal media. But boy,
they all seem to be skeptical of this guy. What

(28:42):
is it that makes you think he's trafficking people?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Well, you know, the concern is he's advertising free housing.
Come move here and we'll give you free housing. But
then that's not actually happening, right that once people get here,
they he's then saying, well, now you've got to pay me.
And so we've had some law enforcement that have been watching.
You know, he's got several social media accounts, so it's

(29:09):
really hard to try to watch everything and police everything.
He's still having meetings and like I think Twitter spaces
and clubhouse and things like that, where you know you're
getting people and potentially very vulnerable, vulnerable people with limited resources,
putting everything they have together to come, Oh, I'm going
to come to this mecha where we've got free housing

(29:31):
and know you're stuck outside of mentone in the middle
of the desert with no water or electricity. And then people,
especially if they've got criminal histories themselves are as a victim,
are very reluctant to go to law enforcement and ask
for help, and so that's just rife for abuse.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You know, it would seem as though that you know,
he's an activist in the like the black rights community,
at least that's the way it seems to me. And
he claims he's some kind of a mission who's come
up with a formula so he can create houses, and
even other people in the black rights community seem to
be skeptical of this guy. I found videos on the
Internet where somebody was asking him in a clubhouse chat

(30:11):
or some kind of a zoom call, Hey, doctor Malcolm Tanner,
how do you build the houses? And he basically just
mocks the guy. He's like, well, I could explain it
to you, but you're not smart enough to get it.
My question is how many followers does he actually have.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, I don't know, but right, I mean, he's got
a pretty large social media presence, and as we know,
the more extreme and crazy things are, the more eyeballs
they get, right, And so I think you start to
have people watching kind of out of more big curiosity,
but then that empowers him, and so yeah, I mean

(30:46):
it's obviously it's Texas. We value people's personal property rights.
You and I certainly do and don't want to get
law enforcement involved if people are using their property for
legal things and that's their own business. But at the
same time, if you've got people moving from across the
country out here who don't have any other resources and

(31:07):
don't have friends or family locally that they think that
they can talk to and trust, it's it's almost like
a cult type situation very quickly.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
All right. So this journalist from the Houston Chronicle did
a really interesting story. I have the video posted. We
played it on our morning show where he explains at
face value what's going on. And I won't play it
because you and I just kind of explained the story.
But it's the journalist's name is Eric. I think Eric
goes to the facility with a cop and doctor Malcolm
Tanner gets angry, and now he's suing them for eight

(31:40):
hundred million dollars. I know, at least that's what it
says online. I know there's no answer to this, Sarah.
And you're a lawyer, so you know you're a very
logical person. This will I don't expect you to have
an answer. But how where's the eight hundred million dollars
come from?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah? I don't know. It sounds like a great number, right,
I'd like eight hundred million dollars. No, I don't think
it's based in any sort of reality. There's there's a
lot of things about this guy that don't appear to
be based in any sort of reality.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, so what are his followers doing to get food
and water? And because you can't just like, look, I
just came back from burning man. When you're out in
the middle of the desert, there's not any running water,
you know, the electricity, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, well, there they've been caught stealing water from people,
like with a trailer and big five gallon jugs, just
going around stealing water and stockpiling it. And then they've
got some generators where I guess they're buying fuel and
you know, using generators like a tailgate that never ends.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Something caught stealing water? Why haven't they been arrested?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, I don't know. You have to have a complaint, right,
you have to have that's the water. The amount of
water that they would be stealing would be a misdemeanor level.
So it's not going to come to my office. But
my understanding is, as you've had, they've been caught a
couple places around town. They've been told you do not
have permission to take this water, and if you come back,

(33:07):
you will be arrested. You know, there's a balance between hey,
vulnerable people taking water where arguably they didn't know that
they weren't allowed to be taking it, and well now
they've been warned, and you know, just everyone again trying
to follow the law and have an appropriate reaction.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sarah, I've always been a fan of you. You and
I might not agree on everything, but you're a populist.
You know, you're you rage against the machine. You go
up against the government and big corporations. You're a libertarian,
and that you and I are close enough I would
say that we're allies. In this weird fight against the
depression of whatever it may be. When you became the
DA of Loving County, that was kind of a weird

(33:47):
surprise none of us expected. I'm not even sure if
you were expecting it. Did you ever think you'd be
dealing with anything like this after you took over as
DA of that little community.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, I will say, it is not boring around here.
There's never a dull moment. It's just me and then
I have one assistant DA across three counties, so it
takes me from my house to get some mentown about
an hour and forty minutes. So we're talking about a
large geographical area right which Loving County has its own

(34:18):
unique history. If people want to go google about the
current status of politics and Loving County, you know, you've
got a couple very wealthy families who've been fighting for
a long time. And so it is. It's never a
dull moment around here. That is, I guess the best
way to put it.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
What's the latest on your fight to you know, legalize
POD or decriminalize or whatever it is you're trying to
do right now.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I mean I'm trying to continue to raise awareness
about real crimes like child sex offenses that we all
I think can agree are really bad, and try to
bring continued awareness and resources to law enforcement to be
able to actually prosecute successfully crimes and let adults that
want to use cannabis use cannabis in the privacy of

(35:05):
their homes without government interference. So there was one case
that I am prosecuting that the defense filed a motion
to just qualify me, claiming that I had broken the
law and therefore I'd broken my oath and was incapable
of being a fair prosecutor. And the judge declined to
just qualify me on that, and I am still vulnerable,

(35:27):
I guess, to a civil suit. If someone that lives
in the jurisdiction wanted to say, hey, you purported to
smoke marijuana on camera, which is a misdemeanor, and we
don't think that you're a good DA, they could file that.
You know, they'd do that to Jose Garza in Austin
all the time. So I have turned it into a
noun and said I could be Jose Garza at any time,

(35:48):
I guess. But if that happens and they don't want me,
then I'll go back to suing oil and gas companies.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
So what happens next with your political ambitions? You're the
DA until when and then what do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well? Man, I'm the DA for another three years and
two months. I don't know, you know. Originally when I
took this job, I thought maybe I could do this
for eight years. My daughter would then be graduating from
high school and I could go on to something else.
I don't know if I have the emotional bandwidth to
look at people raping children for the next, you know,

(36:24):
seven years. I am committed to seeing out this term,
but I don't know what God has in store for me.
I'm just going to do the best I can in
this position right now and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Sarah, I got to tell you you have a fascinating story.
I am glad you are out there. You are one
of the many, many reasons why Texas politics is an
interesting place. And I got a time based on all
your current feuds and fights, I hope you win them all, sister.
Anything we could do to help you, let us know.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Thanks, Kinny, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Hey, I got to run to the rest of you.
Have a great afternoon. Don't forget tickets of it. Although
this Sunday for our comedy show Wheelchairs for Warriors dot Org,
we only have general admission left. There's not a lot
of tickets left. It's me Chad Pray through Jesse Payton.
We're raising money for disabled military veterans. Tell the government
to kick your kiss your ass, have a great afternoon.

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