Paolo’s Ceiling, Spurs Franchise-Best Start, KG’s NBA Debut 30 Years On | TICKET & THE TRUTH

Kevin Garnett & Paul Pierce revisit the moment KG entered the league... and how much has changed since. How great Paolo can be, the Spurs’ hot start, and Boston’s early-season identity crisis all get the spotlight. Plus, Cooper Flagg at point, Austin Reaves’ scoring surge, and why the Sixers might be built for a deep run.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey lord, you pays me. Ha ha ha na.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Number you got the not ain't me John? I thought
that was shoot ship to day.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I nigga got that.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hell hell shuts go when we're talking about the start.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Break down into some ship. Nigga like ship. Yeah, he
got up with You know what I'm seeing on today?
What's that pouch?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I know?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hey hey, look the way.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
You pulled it out. I don't know what I was
looking at.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm looking at the handle and south the pouch, the
pouch or something.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
My boy's getting toward this ship. Man, you know what
time it is? Taking the truth?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Baby, let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Certat certified certain.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Certain it's a green summer.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, we built differently. You ain't watching the games.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Like I'm watching it again. You'm outside, we're alive. It's
that's when you stopped the production. It we know back
that we watch.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Come on, man, get your gash up. Man, Okay, focused man,
locked in, But.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You're looking like eighty to day. Boy. You understand me, right,
you know? Yeah? You know what I'm saying. You know
what I mean. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now, you got to get a bigger bucket. You gotta
go up the hall and get you some bigger buckets.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Right, yeah, your head now.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Grew, says high school the old ship.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You got your curl going on, smother the curl Now
curl is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Eighty three ladies, gentlemen, backer you know what I'm saying
in the time.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Machine and kissed the ring, kissed the ring. Okay, saying right,
you got two stripes, three stripes? Right, give money, you know,
money in the house hold on man hitting me?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
What was this? Oh Snell? He got to be all
the wrong? Oh ship, what's going on? Ship? No? We
got We're gonna have to go.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
You have to go behind the paywall for this quick now.
I ain't I ain't paid you or nothing. I ain't
got the pages. This show number ain't me, This ain't true.
Okay one, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
With three game, Snell.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a lot going on in the league.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Boy, Yeah, talk about it, man Pete.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
What we're doing up in Philly, p Pete, we gotta
change it on the guard Pete, A big fella, Paul George.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Y'all go ahead, y'all chill no, no ahead, and chill no.
I thought about this.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Are you watching the games? Watching the game? You see
the phone, that's going on. See the former seeing the
three headed moms just about the she was coming, seeing
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But see the horizon. Can you see what's coming over
the hill?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I can see it. Yeah, I'm my binocular zone.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
We are in it. This is the changing up the
guard and we're in it.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, agree, I don't know what I'm thinking of.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Listen, listen, I'm looking at how Philly playing right now
and be's not at his best. You don't have the
young boy McCain who could have been Rookie of the
Year last year, who.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Was in the race.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Then we talk about getting Paul George back pretty soon.
I'm not changing nothing because with the East the way look,
Philly could possibly come out the East if you stay
the same and you healthy.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Think about it. This the formula.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
We got two young boys, this kid on his rookie
contract giving us a lift U VJ. Edge Combe, and
then I got Maxie who's a certified franchise player, arguably.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
The best guard in the East.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
And I got Embiid arguably the best big man in
the East.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
In the East not playing like.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Not right now, but he gotta get his knee back
right he got he gotta take some game here what
you're putting down following, and then you got Paul George,
who could be a great role player.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
At this stage.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
If they decided the old hands be like, we're giving
it to the young boys. We're gonna let them carry us,
and then at the crucial moments we're gonna show up.
This might be a firm because think about it, who
who are the top teams in the East. And then
when you look at Philly all healthy, they just as
good as Cleveland, They just as good as Cleve.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Why not healthy? Embiid versus Mobley?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
And then you got, uh, what's the other kid quitting
Grimes coming.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Off the bench, he's playing. Well, that's they match up
with whoever? Paul George, what's big fellaw name? Bona Boa?
What's his name Boa? What's big fella for mon? Bona? Yeah?
Coming in? Yeah, give me a great minutes, That's what
I'm saying. So you're telling me that Philly can't come
out the East healthy, No, I can't. I can't say that.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Why you can't say that, You can't say that Cleveland
can come out definitely?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Why?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Because they ain't did it out? They ain't did it right,
because you had a green steam machine rolling everybody. New
York ain't did it right because it's green, a green
steam machine that was rolling everybody off. Right, Then everybody
forgets to talk about Indiana. The Pacers actually made their
mark last year. Okay, cool there, but I understand it's
not this top.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's not this juicy and sax see wall. I got
it right. But let me say something now.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I love what I'm seeing in Philly real talk like
it's the change of reguard to me.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
This is this is equivalent to young Mall on the Block.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bro, y'all, y'all got found with everybody was you know
what I'm saying, It's cool Young Mall on the block. Now,
this is Maxie's team. This is him and airs Coles team.
This is this is what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
And then when McCain comes back, we're gonna have a
three headed monster that's coming down here without you.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's play making, that's getting to the rim.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's that's just cause of havoc.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
They're gonna have up three.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
They're gonna have three problems, bro.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And I'm seeing how they are splitting the time with
Joe l and Boa.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You me and then Boa come in. He shit, he thinking,
is I'm man?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
What?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
No I like it?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Why canim block?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
He had like four or five blocks and crucial night
the other night they was down with Washington. Man like, bro,
I'm just watching his team, man. Yeah, Ashcombe got so
much confidence that he thinking I'm the best to inn
the league. You know what this team he acting like, Man,
I'm new money, I'm young, we young Marlow whut him? Man?
We young? Y is out here?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Man, y'all gotta listen. Y'all got a chill, big fella,
Go ahead, take your time. It ain't even surrounding you
no more. They ain't even giving it to him like
that no more. If he giving it, he.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Hops gotching and trying to pull back.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
For the Lord, I'm watching Philly and Nick Nurse change
the whole mechanism of how they was winning.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It ain't no more for what for out one end?
And if so, it's calls off the perimeter. Max.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's so aggressive that, yeah, Bro, I wouldn't change nothing.
I like how they look. They just don't have their experience.
That's the only reason I'm picking Cleveland. That's the only
reason I'm picking You know some of these other teams
New York. When you look at Philly, you remind me
of that d Way Miami team where he had all
the whole old heads that had experience and he was
the young boy and brought them a time.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Looking like a little Anthony Edwards. Bro.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
He is what I'm saying, that's got the young superstar
in Max and McCain can't forget. And you got and
you got, so you don't need MB to go out
there in e thirty thiss like how Shaq was in Miami.
That's just his presence was enough. Zoe Twine, they got
George MB.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
That's what this reminded me of. I'm telling you. Pick
is a for sure big fellow. Can't move.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
He they putting him in pick and rolls and he
can't be up on it, or he going or they
going around him for the layup. And then when they
drop it to the big the biggest finishing at the realm.
You know what I'm saying, Like, man, he'll get it right.
By the by of this season, he'll get it right.
His leg gonna get stronger. Yeah, he's gonna get in
better shape. You know us early and they looking like this,
think about this this early and they looking like this,

(08:05):
I like, I like what.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'm saying from.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I'm saying, shot your ash Comb man, young VJ man,
they doing their thing.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't. I don't. I got VJ early on the
on the on the on the on the rookie side too.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
So would you be shocked if Philly came out of
the East, Yeah, you'll be shocked. Yeah, ain't nobody got
Philly on the list.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
But like I'm saying, as from what you just seen
from the first week of the Sea Pree season record,
I'm talking about like today, if you say what you've
seen from the first week, would you be shocked.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
If they came out of there putting on it? Broill
got eighty games to go? Bro?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, but you we we we this is what we do.
We come in here and we chop and we talk
and we go by what we see. What did you
be shocked based on what you see? Just like you said,
VJ got an early rookie year, you're already saying weinby
could be MVP. Yeah, but I'm saying consistently what you
see consistency? Can they come out of the East. I'm
not gonna say that I ain't putting them against I
ain't putting them above Cleveland. Cleveland too deep and with

(08:59):
Cleveland together around January and they start moving and rocking
and rolling and the tires going in this day and
then they gotta, they gotta, they got a.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Motion going on.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Cleveland Cleveland is if that's your favorite, come out right now.
I like New York from being honest. After the Green Machine,
you know, killed some steam and you know kind of
you know, throttle down. I see New York next in line.
New York is next in line to take it. I
hate saying that because the pacers that's earned that, who just.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Beat New York. Somebody just beat them up, just popped them.
So we don't talk about Listen, listen, I just said
we got a lot to talk about. It's a lot
going on to that, all right.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Speaking of just big players for a weekend, who were
the kind of one, two, three players that have really
impressed you one weekend.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
You see the joker.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm not I'm not I'm not looking at the joker
and being surprised at what he do.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm like looking at like this, what he doing is
a normal night, Like that's he's he's raised his bar
so high that like, oh, it's just another night. When
you see the twenty eight, thirteen to fifteen, that's just like, oh, that's.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Just Joker twenty fifteen and twelve for the year.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's like, oh, that's just
that's just another day for him. Really good looks really good,
he likes so man, these young teams too. Man, so
many young teams look really good. You know what I'm saying.
I've been I know they a't any conversations and stuff, but.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
I'll tell you who's been disappointing to me from the
at the start, like kind of Houston kind of been
a little disappointing.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And I know it's early.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Orlando's been a little disappointing because I had them coming out.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know early. People ain't even got the ten games.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, I know, I know, but you know, you you
expect the young team like that to come out to
kind of make their mark early because you know, the
excitement built around those two teams with you know, the
additions they got with Bain and Orlando and Kevin Durant
over there in Houston and the young fellas, you thought
they would just come out a little bit. You know,
I'm shocked and I'm a little surprised that Chicago how
they came out. You know what I'm saying. They they balling.

(10:51):
There's some young dogs though in Chicago team. Their strength
or numbers and how they played with energy. Right, This
is my problem with them though. And I love Pallo right. Yeah,
he a nice guy, O. P I don't see him, No,
Burst don't see him. You know what I'm saying, Like
he got another level to me, He got another level

(11:13):
to him. And it ain't all and ain't it ain't
all on the it ain't all grassy. No, he gonna
have to, like you gotta understand to play to be
king of the hell you got.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Like, Lord, he he young. Still I think he a
little too heavy.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I would like him to be a little lighter and
use his athleticism, use the running us that he can
outspread guys and did use that.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like he got another level. Bro,
He don't rebound as great as I think he can.
You know, you know his any like to be that
guy on your team, bro? Yeah, man, he get it done.
Man shout to his game. I just see his game
being another level.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We see how we watching women and like, oh man,
women's playing another That's what I'm saying. Paolo can actually
actually I run a lot of guys. He can actually
be the first down. He could get by his man.
He can don't dunk that versus lay it up. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, like bro we Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm watching it different though with my expectations from you know,
I feel you. That's what I'm saying. That's why I
like Cleveland because you know what, Spider, he'll take that shot.
Spider would go in there and try to try. You
Spider woul.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Dunk on your mom fucking there. Spider, he'll flat You
know what I'm saying, Like you right man, look at you, honest, man,
y honest right now.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Probably MVP.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean if it won Fuck, you can't even say
that because because guy's got forties and fifties already. I
think we had what fifteen fourteen forties and some shit.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, yeah, there's a stat that I looked up. There's
seventeen to forty point games within the first week and
the record before that and the first week is seven
and we've seen four fifty point games already.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
One week in the GOT he went aster GOT, following
up with.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
The forty piece Monday against with with Bron and Luca out.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
All of his games have been monster awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Reason like I'm underpaid, pay me.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
He turned down a deal this offseason, so he's looking
to get a max this upcoming offseason can be that.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
The whole year.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, I don't like this is my thing. I'm
I like Austin real. I like him as a role
player on the championship team. Though, like you know what
I'm saying, I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
He can't. We got that right now, Bron out. We need,
we need, we need artillery. Who he want to know
what I'm saying, Hey, hey, hey, coach, put me in.
I'm in bucket. Bucket. You can't. You can't you know
what I'm saying. You can't not see what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I love what he's doing, Like he's maximizing his talent
based on like the circumstances. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
And he's letting to be known that I'm you know,
I didn't have a great playoffs, but I got better
this year. I'm only in what my third year, four
feet what is it? Yeah, he is third or fourth year,
fifth season? Okay, yeah, so like you like to see

(13:47):
that from your third star. But the questions that's come
up is can he do these type of things when
it really matter? And I think he's not gonna have
the opportunity as long as Bron is still there. You know,
I think he has a better chemistry with him and
Luca because, yeah, because Lebron's gravitational pool is so much

(14:10):
on the team that it takes away from some of
the other guys because you see when he's out talented,
these other guys look, so you can't pay him as
long as you got Lebron there. You have to see
a full You got to get a full, simple size.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Of what he can be. Can he be a number
two on a really good team or is he like
a third option?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
So that's the questions when you think about when you
put the money toward, like, hey, how much is you know,
Austin Reeves really worth to this franchise.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
They've played four games without Luca and Bron. Reeves had.
Here are the games forty five and seven, thirty seven
and thirteen, assists, fifty one, eleven and.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Nine for is he leading the league in scoring? No, Max,
he is the lead, and he's seven and he's second.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
No, he's averaging thirty six almost. But there's a couple
guys that are right like there at the top. So
the scoring is up like off the charts, guys like
there's been four you So.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
When you need to go, now, Pete, you need to go.
Why scoring up and you can get in there. You
can get out about twenty five. Perent you're gonna get
an eight, nine teen, You're gonna I can get you double.
I get your double figures in the league. Right now,
I'm saying you need to go now, right now, you
can't touch.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You need to go down there. Hey, hey what I
still got I still got range. Orlando can use me.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
They need some more shooting their twenty fifth in offense.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Orlando can use me. Right now.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I can spot up, make some shot, I can spread.
Ready to get back into the league. I've been playing
three days a week. Ain't say that, I say your
mind ain't ready. I can get back in the league.
I've been doing. I've been I worked out this morning.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
As you should. I'm talking about the league though. You
ready for you know you got you gotta go in
there and be a be a vet.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Can you go in there and be a vet?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Come on, My mindset is way more killer for these youngsters.
I'll be coming there and control. Hey, this is what
we're doing. We're gonna go back to a road to take.
We're gonna go back.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
We asked him last week for what we asked some
church hundred meal two.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
We asked it was ten mil at first, and he
said no, and then we bumped into a hundred and
he said, yes, I'll.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Go back to it. Ain't you know.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Listen, listen, listen, it ain't the bottle bayer. Give me
a hundred dollars a day. Give me one hundred dollars
a day. Give me one hundred dollars a day to
go back to the league. Right now, Give me a
hundred dollars a day.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm cool with that. Give me a hundred a day.
Just no, just give me per diem, ladies and gentlemen.
He's lying. That's all I need is some per diem.
You want to Yeah, and I saw still get money.
You are looking. You're now witnessing a liar bucket. Stop man.
So I'm just trying to I can knock down shots.

(16:43):
I can knock down shot. They don't need you in
there for that, yes they do. Orlando needed need you
in there to be on.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Big hey man, take that ship to the basket. Hey
face his ass up it right right. I can take
POWLO game to the next level just being in that
locker room now, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, how the
needs the knees feeling good? You know it's day to
day okay, cool and tom up and down like the start.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, no, we're gonna We're gonna get you that three
year We got you.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
But listen on some real shit. You see what Banging
trying to bring to Orlando. He trying to bring that
Griet and grind down there last night.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
But he not. He not gonna be as respected as
me in the locker room. He's a good addition. Man.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
We not tom My dad Man. We to bain on
the Lando magic right now. But great and Grind he
bringing up. He bringing a certain force and certain attitude
to the defensive end. I'm watching him, you know what
I'm saying. I'm just watching him and how he's bringing
that Memphis to Orlando.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
One thing about Palo I want to bring up to
you guys. He's shooting thirty nine percent this year, and
through four games, he's five of twenty seven on jump shots,
so most of his points are coming close to the rim. Like,
is there any advice that you would give or what
you've seen that you think he would need to improve on?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean asked early, so I don't like to overreact early.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay, So like I usually like after twenty twenty five games,
that is a good besides of what like you're gonna
be for the season. So, yeah, he had a rough stretch.
He's still All Star, he was All NBA. So we'll see.
You know, I'm not gonna knock him too early because
I had how I got high expectations for him this year,
you know, so we'll find that what's high expectations? Well

(18:16):
I had twenty eight. Well I had him like six.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That should be in the MVP conversation on some real ship.
You think Bro got the motor to be MVP of
the league. Think about the last think he got MVPs
we had and got the skills.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
SGA Joker Joker MB You think he got the motor
Nighty Night out.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
To do that. I think he got the skill set.
And I'm going on what I sugges a new law.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
All over thirty a game too, all those guys you get.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You think he got a motor to come out here,
I do.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't think he. I don't think he got the motor.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Lord.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I think he's cool. Way yet he's right uncomfortable. Guess
what to go to the next level. Who's got to
be uncomfortable? You got to do some ship that's hurt.
You got to go through some shit you don't understand
to the point where you start to understand, and then
you got to take on a leadership that's so uncomfortable. Yeah,
I may have to tell you, hey, man, come on,
let's get on defense. Hey, get on the floor. That's

(19:13):
all uncomfortable. Guess what that's all growth. If you're gonna
be the man on the team, then you gotta take
that responsibility.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
What comes with it. Men, you may have to say
some real shit to your homeboy that's on the team,
and some real shit. You know what I'm saying. You
gotta be that Zamle god bonner because you'll ask can
guard right goofy leadership. I'm glad we had me and
Ray right, he said, I'll just hold you accountable.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Lord, b.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, you're laughing about that, bro, But you the joke
in that we actually helping you stop the nigga.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
You talking about Bono in the nigga. We stopping Gernobili
right now, you're laughing, right. I wasn't even going there.
My point is, Bro, to take on these leadership, it's
gonna take on another level of like now, I don't
want to say fuck you, but another level of yeah
this me and here like everybody, not just because I'm
getting paid, but I'm the leader in here. I'm put

(20:06):
I work like this rate like yeah, that's that's the
level I'm talking about. He got another level on him. Bro,
you know what I'm saying, Man, look at Wimby Man. Man,
look at Wimby Man. Winby is distinctively different from last
year to this year. Just just attitude in mind.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I see it.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Man. You come in there trying to block up man. Bro,
it's trying to hurt you.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Bro. Here look dark Bro, let's let's be honest. Lord man,
don't nobody want to say this.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Man? When when you get in, when you get in
three points standing that nigga looking at you, I mean
you want come on, Pete, don't do this. Don't be
looking at me like I'm tripping. Lil Mode is real
kill mode? You drewling your nose. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm gonna see that in him. Bro, Okay, that's all.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's all to that.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
They get to it.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
And you know what I'm saying, that killer and stee
I don't get that from him. That's all I'm saying.
I saw flashes of that in the Boston series last
year though. I saw a lot of flashes in that.
He was killing like I saw something. I know it's
in him, but you gotta have it every night. I
understand what you That's all I'm saying. Yeah, when you

(21:15):
say m v P, bro, man, you you called out
a certain group of guys just because how they go
that that is the Ashcombe kid got it. VJ gonna
beat something in this league. Bro, they gonna You're gonna
respect him. You're gonna respect this whole game. I'm watching
him on both ends.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
He gives match them for they.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I know it's all new and everything. We all into it.
I'm just observing you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but
he has that killer mentality.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Bro. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
In terms of the rookies, would you say DJ's at
the top right now or is there another guy you're looking.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
At the clear top right down? Clear overwhelming twenty game
for him? Yeah? Clear, overwhelming? Yeah? Who else is in
the race? Like front?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I like little Harper he came along. He looks nice,
every solid, he's solid like that.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I like my boy in Utah. What's my guy? I
like a. A's got a he got an NBA.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Game, Padrick Coward of the Grizzlies. He's sixteen again.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Oh yeah, I saw him. That's the kid that ya yep? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
And then obviously you got Flag you know who struggled
a little bit in this last game versus h Who
is that?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
See, but that's the champs. You know, it can be overwhelming.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Seventeen six and three on the year for Cooper all
things considered, though, what do you guys think about him
kind of running the show and being the point guard
for them? Like, what's your thought of that when that's
not traditional?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't like the I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Like, can you imagine if Jason Kidd, what's the point
guard for the MAVs, Cooper Flag will probably or Andre Miller,
Cooper Flag will probably get eight to nine layups.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Just being faster and being in the lane.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Lord, when you play man, listen, when you play the
point guard position, bro, it's so much going through you
gotta have three fold plays. If they start pressing, you
got to organize everybody. If you got stars like this, Mama,
you gotta get him the ball or he clapping, And
it's just a bunch of stress that come with organizing
and running a team. You're the operator after the coach.

(23:16):
You gotta that takes some mindset and that's gotta be
in you.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I was watching Houston and you know, shat Man, he
you know, he was making a do what to do.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
But when it came down to getting Kde the ball
and Kadi's spots for the play to be ran like this,
when him and Gweney Man pressure got up.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
He couldn't even get to that. At that point. Is
basketball if you gotta get up on up. He started pressing,
you gotta lay you take the letter. So it was
all off.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
So you know what I'm saying, I feel like the
point guard position has to be taught, man, and it's
very much needed.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
All right. So this is what I'm gonna say about that,
because I had a chance to think about it. What
position did you play when you first got leave the
three small Ford exactly? They put you out your comfort zone.
You wasn't a three year high, it was five. But
it made better. Absolutely. I like this for him.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
He's out his comfort zone. It's gonna make him better.
It's gonna make him a better all around player. Same
as I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You was a three.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
I remember that it well rounded your game to the
fullest you had it, but you you got comfortable now
in so many different positions and it made you a
better player. It's about And he's a rookie. Lost some game,
yeah yeah, so he's developing. So in the long run,
this could be something that's good for him. So I'm
gonna look at it like that.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So, yeah, maybe don't look comfortable right now, but he
can get comfortable in it, you know what I'm saying.
It made you great, This can make him great. You
know what I'm saying. So you lose some games right
now because I'm developing him. Yeah, if I'm KD. I'm
mad at that. Like I'm developing him versus either because
now have Shepherd come in here or go get a
point guard.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm developing him. He's our future, like right now until
Kyrie come back. Right now, I want him developing because
now he gonna learn how to play the pick and roll,
gonna learn how to create for his teammates. He gonna
learn how to play a one on one games, whereas
before he ran the lane lib catch a shoot. He
already got that, damn. So now we're gonna this is

(25:10):
not a bad idea now that I'm seeing, uh what
they what they're trying to do with him, Like, yeah,
I'm seeing the overall pictures. Yeah, y'all see the marathon right,
so like it don't look it's good right now when
it's in front of you, but like long run, it's
gonna make him.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
A better player. Man, we got price picks. Yeah, let's
get to it more or less, more or less, let's
get it right.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
And how I'm doing first, Nate, you guys are tired
three and one.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Hold on, bro, you're on the bed last year now,
Nate and uh them got the receipts now yow me
forty bottles of one damn forty bottles of bet on
the wall.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Like, how you doing? Like I'm saying I need a
wine sponsor.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Man, let's get it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Price picks baby Friday, Halloween. NBA Cup starts on Halloween. Yeah,
the thirty first you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Who you got to win the East in season? If
you had to pick a team randomly, go East, No,
just the nd season tournament. Then we're gonna pick a
random pick two Randoms.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Rand win. I'm gonna go uh okay, see okay, is
he gonna be the West? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:23):
And then in the East, I'm gonna go, uh Milwaukee
early Milwaukee Litte won it last year.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They're going back and back.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, that was the last year.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I swear,
Come on, man, lock in, man, lock in, I didn't
know that, lock in. I promise I could have told
you who won the end season tournament.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Oh man, man, We're sorry, folks, far as sorry, folks,
We're sorry.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's okay. We're gonna get him there, gonna get him there. Man,
We're gonna remember that right now. It's okay, okay, right,
I was worried about my own ring.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
And y'all pray for your boar ticket in him. Man, Man,
we're working, were trying, be trying Celtic sixers at where
Philly O. Listen, this is gonna be the get on him. Boy,
I don't know what you're thinking. And bro, gotta listen.
Young fella coming. Bro, young fella in here thinking it's
all sweet in here, you feel me, somebody gotta you

(27:28):
know it's something. Give him a welcome to the moment.
Leave you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Jaylen Brown more or less points, rebounds, points points, Jaylen
Brown points more or less.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm gonna go more because I think he feels like
he has to do more on the road, uh than
at home, because you know they's struggling a little bit
and he's been balling on the road lately.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So I'm gonna go more.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'm gonna go more to this game, Gonna have some
something minute it's gonna be. I think the first game
felt like kind of like you know, opening the eye.
Were now young fella got some juice and he you
know he not playing you know here in the headlines. Bro, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he in the real
headlines when that headline came off from somebody Jersey, Oh

(28:21):
bro Jaylen Brownwood, Oh, they put the juice ski hit
on what they do the jew ski on that poor
man right speaks.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Y'all trying to get y'all man, check this out. Man,
They got the juice sky on him.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, he has to molly wop on this man. Boozers
started that boozer man, Colos Boozers started that bullshit. Man.
Oh man, that's funny.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
You guys both got more and Jaylen brown points looks
look on the other side and look at Dj Edgecoll.
He had thirty four against the Celtics last week in
Opening Night. He's averaging twenty two on the year.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
But are you going more or less points on Dj Edgecomb.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
More or less on vout Report now? Man, Yeah, you're a.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Sky Report and you know Rookies is gonna be more
up and down, especially early summer. Go less with Dj
edge Comb. Yeah, I'm gonna follow suit. I'm gonna say
less too. Although the young fellow playing with a lot
of confidence to pee. Let me ask you this, are
you shocked if he gets over thirty or forty again
on the Celtics. Yes, I'm gonna be shocked. I'm gonna

(29:28):
be shocked again, Yes I will be.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I ain't gonna be shocked, Bro, I ain't gonna be shocked.
I mean, he's good this early, but now they're gonna
be aware of that. But who's gonna stow that down? Though?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Something got some pretty good period of defenders. You know,
you talk about White, Jaylen Brown, uh, even Payton Pritcher,
he put, he put He's a pretty solid defender.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
On so this So this is what I know.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
You can't put that type of effort into You can't
put all the exit in the defense sabaskets what I'm saying,
especially when you're asked. Pritchard, Brown and White carried a
load as far as the scoring and playmaking on that team.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Wouldn't you say? Yeah, So you can't.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
You can't take a seventy thirty and put it. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
You under saying, like I understand some segments where you
you know you're playing in between or you know, you
know what I'm saying, where you gotta be one on one.
It takes that energy.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
But bro, when you gotta put the ball in the
basket too.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
You can't you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Can't You can't designate that type of energy to stopping
a guy like VJ, especially when the velocity and how
he attacked.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
He ain't just selling feet settled. He he in and
out coming downhill at you you feel.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Men, I mean, I'm more worried about Maxie than him.
The combination then that leads that leads him kind of open.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's oh.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I think I think they're working on both.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I think I think you gotta help on Maxie as
much as you gotta help on young fellow.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's more like in the locker room more the sky
reporter is gonna be on mb in Max.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
No way, what you're not watching the games. That's why
you're not watching the games. That's how I know you're
watching the game.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's crazy. Hold on, hold on, what did you say?

Speaker 3 (31:09):
The star of the scouting prayer is gonna be based
around mb in Max. That's gonna be my attention in
the locker room. And then VJ mb is somewhere at
the bottom of the in b paying twenty five twenty
two minutes a game, right, and like since that first
game is averaging twenty and twenty minutes. You know what,
they watching the games you see.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I knew it. I know it. You ain't been well,
you ain't been watching it. He's twenty and twenty man twenty. Yes, No,
he did that in Charlotte. He did it again. Back
to Ball he did. He did the man didn't even listen. Bro.
Stop you're just making shit up.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean he did it in the last couple of
games and Washington, okay, back to back games.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
He's not averaging twenty and twenty minutes, is my point.
That's what I'm saying last, and he's not first on
the lists for stopping Philly. You understand what I'm saying
that man is probably fourth and fifth.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
You gotta last couple games twenty points in twenty something three,
I got it.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm saying he's not top priority is stopping him. Bro,
he's not in the Scout report and b MB who's.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Playing twenty two minutes? He'll be playing a second half?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Crazy stop playing back to back?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
May stop man? Stop wow stop man. He's definitely in
the Scout RBS. Stop man doing what twenty and twenty minutes?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
You got it, all right?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
So you both got more points on Brown less points
on edge Comb. So let's go to ticket too. Let's
look at the Lakers Grizzlies game. I'm gonna ask you,
Austin Reeves more or less points? Where you got him?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
What do you averages like? Thirty six? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Thirty six the game?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay? Versus Memphis? Damn okay? Let me see. Oh, I'm
going uh he gonna have more than thirty.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
No, I'm going less. I'm going less on Austin. He
can't keep this pace up. This pace is tremendous. We're
gonna ride with him. We're gonna rib with Himlet's see,
we'renna get him go.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Less more less more less more less who less? Who?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
On?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Memphis?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Is gonna slow Austin reach down with the fluorescent light
with no bron I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
In Austin, you get forty shots? Go ahead, we.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
See all right, Let's go to the other team, John Moran,
more or less points on John Moran? His season average
right now is twenty two. Where do we got him
more or less?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
There? I mean more this' la joh, the Big Cities.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I'm gonna go less on job really because he he
I don't look at him as a scorer like he
gonna he might have gain.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
He's just playmaking. I don't know, man, because he can
have a game with like tennis. I'm going less.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
His career average is twenty three points a game.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna go less. Yeah, go less.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
See I'm going more. It's la you know, the lights
are brighter out here. No Luca, you know what I'm saying. No,
bron Yeah, him and Austere Reves, it's gonna you know
what I'm saying, yeahs is gonna feel like, yeah, you
know what, let me let me go for another fifty piece.
They thought, let me get another faulty piece in here.
All right, right flats right, no drums right playing James

(34:19):
flats damn right off flats right, bro.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Ain't no bron No, man, I'm expecting Austin Reeds to
get forty, to trap him, then trap him for what Yeah, no, Brono,
Luca trap and magnifics ain't gonna respect him like that?
Yeah they respect man, he got respect. Nah yeah last year,
last year. What they're not gonna they gonna think they
got a player that can slow that down. All right,
let's see, let's see. I'm with it. I'm man, listen,

(34:45):
you ain't said nothing, but you know what I'm talking about, right,
check it out.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Those are my truth picks and those are my tick picks. Yeah,
oh man thirty years ago, Man, Sacramento. Man, my first game.
Y'all checked this out.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Guy now also coming in. We talked about him in
the open of the show with the young fresh first off,
the coach, I forget bro name, but he was such
an asshole. He was like, Okay, look I'm putting you in.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I don't even want to put you in, Like that's
what he told me.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm like, damn, look, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Just he said some bullsh here?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah was out here? What William the perimeter?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Look, look hit the lame fella, right, he used to
be time perimeter. Oh Man, Terry Port and all the guys. Man,
they used to look out for me. Man, make sure
you know what I'm talking about, my old heads.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, hey man, you fall
just get a lame young fella, young fella, Keith, really
young fellaw. I ain't say the man, just really young fella.
How was that?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
How was that?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like? You came off the bench. I came off the bench.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
How was that like that, Like, first of all, you
said there, how was that? Just like was you excited?
Was you nervous or what was the What wasn't nervous?
I was I had played in front of a crowd,
and it was it's more of you know, miss Richmond
out here and o P like I was. You know,
I'm a I'm a real sports dude, so I knew
players and that's what I was gassed.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I was like, damn, get Clyde, Clyde, God damn.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I was out here just like god damn and just
being on some damn. I got this knee on the.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Wall and Dad, I'm motherfucking well, biggest ship, damn shock,
biggest damn.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like I was just on that, you know, we was
real fan saying yeah, it was more of that. So
when I got the guardwalk Willis, I was like, I'm
acc I'm like, damn, go whoa Wills?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Watch you closing?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I'm not something, you know, some gullible ship lord. I
was so set up for the friendly Fire. I don't
know if everybody do anybody you know what friendly fire
is in let me explain everybody with friendly fire is
into the league. Example, giving Paul I look up to Paul.
That's I'm gonna use Glenn Rice because I looked up
the Glenn Rice. But so Glenn Rice would go, what's up? KG?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Man? What's up? Blenn Man? How you doing? Man? Love
you boy? You're playing good boy, you're playing hard.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Thanks man, come off the pitch.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You're all comfortable? What I thought? It was all cool? Listen,
Glen Rice, Jordan, Glenn Rice, and Jordan freely fired me. Man,
hey man, good Man, Man, so nice, Jordan, your career
next play Listen.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
We was in Washington, Bro, come back. You know my
aunt and my mom loved Jordan's he know thised and
I took a picture in there thing man bro talking
to me and Molly whopping me Bro in Washington.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
He gave me about faulty. You thought it was cool?
Hey man? How your mom? Man? I'm like, damn, Jordan
askedball Man. Hey man. He came out the pitch. Yeah.
I'm like, man, Man, finally I had to get in
my head like I can't I can't do this. I
can't do that.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
He's too comforting. You got been friendly fired. I know
somebody friendly fired you.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Let's see who I mean because I looked at like missss.
You know these guys I looked at like man. Right
they friendly fired like you like your young fella, you
got a nice game, you know your ass man right
away friendly fired. So yeah, that's why I used to
play with so much like anger and did want to
be cool, but because it was cool to play in

(38:10):
the dark place.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
If truth, guys who was my my my real friends
in the league, we competed, you know what I'm saying.
Tried to fight me one time in the game, you
feel me? So I played better in that versus hall man.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
What's that? I could never do that. I could never
do that.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I could never be letting pe go to the hall
and it was cooling, but I couldn't compete like that.
You know I played better in real competition.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I don't like you, you don't like me? What's hat like? Yeah,
I played better in.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
That, but ticket didn't miss a shot. And we're coming
up on thirty years of that game.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Wow, that's crazy. That's why I always liked Sack. This
first game that missed a shot, there's four or four
off the bad.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, we got blown out by like a dub or
Like I think I completely break I don't know what
my first shot.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Was you playing? You played for Rick? Who first we
played for?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
How was that first training came in?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
My first shot? I don't remember my first shot, if
I made it or not, that first training count.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
You don't know your first bucket. I don't know the
first shot. You know, say if I made the first bucket.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Man, I don't remember my first buck Maybe my first
bucket was a layup, maybe a high layup.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
You don't remember your first bucket in the league. No,
I don't. I don't remember my first You remember all
this other ship, but you don't remember your first bucket
in the league.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
That's nineteen your first game, I know, ad nineteen. I
don't remember my first what's your first game at? My
first game was first Toronto?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
In Toronto? No, I think it's at home. That's where
you got your first bucket at. Yeah, it's too Yeah,
you know you love that Toronto right Toronto? Oh yeah,
no doubt about that. Old Canada. Got my passport and
everything ready to go.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I wanted to ask you guys about the Celtics. They're
one in three as it stands. On Wednesday, I look
this stat up. They ranked twenty ninth and opposing offensive
rebounds in the league. They're giving up a lot of
offensive rebounds and then three point percentage. They're they're one
of the teams that shoot more threes than anyone. They're
twenty fifth in that at thirty two a game and
they shoot forty six a game. So in you were

(40:09):
guys's eyes. What has been kind of the biggest struggle
for the Celtics early on this first week in the season.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Got a whole new team.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, you know, seed's got to from what the seas
have known the last what four to five years, three
to four at least they've known, you know, locker room presence, leadership,
you know, having a great supporting cast, having you know,
players available, players you know healthy, and yeah, man, for

(40:41):
like the three three four years they being the steam
engine and now you got so many different parts that
are not there and the continuity and you know, you
add new guys, they learning, you know, man, when you
when you when you.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Change everything like this.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
So when things have such a big dramatic change like this, yeah, yeah,
it's too big expected in the development year. You know,
I think you got your best player out and yeah,
it's a bunch it's just a bunch of new pieces
to where not only the fans have to actually you know,
digest and you know, kind of recalibrate and see what
this looks like. But I think the coaches, I think

(41:17):
the players also too. You know, you're trying to find,
you know what, who plays well with whom and all that.
So yeah, I see the development. I see Actually I
like where it's going because this is giving other guys.
I think Paul talked about development earlier of Cooper and
playing you know, out of his conference zone.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I see the same thing with some of this. I
can see, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Pitchers get into minutes and you know, Keith it looks,
you know, better than what I've known him to be.
So you know, and one thing, yeah, for the for
the marathon, I like what it looks like in the
short run obviously, yeah done. It doesn't look like it's
looking the last in the past. So yeah, it was
kind of I ain't gonna say expected, but you know, yeah,
a little bit right.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
They're not. They're not on the list to to do
to do much this year. I seen them on everybody's
list of winning the East this year, Like they have
in the past.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I mean they went from a team that has
been a contender for the last five years to a
team that's just trying to find their identity. Now, I mean,
you lost a huge part of your core. When you
look at losing Drew Porzingis you lost obviously, you lost Tatum.
That's a lot too, That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
In the locker room. You lost everything, like the whole
leadership I'm saying that means.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
And so now you got these other young guys who
are playing roles that they haven't played before and trying
to adjust to them. You know, now you got Jalen
he's obviously the number one guy when most of the
time and they said that he was the number two guy.
You got Peyton Pritchard, who was a six Man of

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the Year now is a starter.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
So it's like guy's got to make that adjustment to
their roles.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And you know, they didn't have no expectations really, and
so they just in the development stage. I think right now,
until they figure out which direction they want to go,
can they make the playoffs? I think they can still
make the playoffs in the East. I think they still
have enough with Derek Peyton Jaylen Brown, and if some
of the if some of these other guys can step

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up and.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You know, come out of the wild.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Works, then I think they got a shot in the
East because it's not like you look at the East,
it's it's like three teams that I can say is
guaranteed the playoffs, and that's New York, that's Cleveland, and
then I gotta give Milwaukee because of the Greek freak.
After that, I don't. Everybody else is a toss up

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to me. So if go down, they don't make they're
not gonna do nothing. I mean, you know, as long
as he's out there and the presence and a guy
who we can arguably say is the best player in
the league, they gonna have a shot.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I actually thought Jay Brown should have should be going
for like an MVP this ship, Bro, Like it's it's
one of them years where you know his scoring is
gonna be very much needed, you know what I'm saying,
Like when you don't have all that artillery, because you know,
everybody say they want the shots and all that, but
when we get in the game, Bro, sometimes you got
to have a bag to be able to get the shots,

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all from quality shots.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Bro, from him.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I go for it, man, real shit, you know nothing
ready to lose. You lose, right, see your fifty tonight
out here, go out head and try to you know
what I'm saying, right, you ain't lying.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
A team out west that started out pretty hot is
the Golden State Warriors. There are four one steps playing
pretty well. They have one of the older starting fives
in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I shocked at that.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
It's a little surprising because I think I thought I'm
looking at go to State, like the winter's close. They're older,
but you know, they have a guy in Jimmy Butler
who takes pressure off Steph when Steph don't have to
be the leading scorer every night. But I just worry
about like depth and injuries with them. Ability, yeah, durability

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being at their older team and you know, seeing them,
can they go through another long playoff run?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, you know, and that I'm just not so sure because.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
They got they don't really have the young athletes that
you kind of need to compete with, like Okay, c
Denver Minnesota. I believe you know once when you got
to see them, that's that's the that's the that's the
cream of the crop right there. Are those three teams healthy.
I'm not sure yet, but I can't count out Steph

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and Jimmy's always shown hard with Raymond, but I just
think they're too old at this stage.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I thought that, But then they know how to win, Bro.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You don't leave Kaming out Communia takes a lot of
pressure him and Jimmy or scoring options on that. What's
what's my big what's the big fella that come in
shooting that motherfucker like number twenty one?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's what I'm saying. Listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
They got enough young guys that has been developed to
play in this league, Bro, like Moody Kaminga, what's my
little my little left hand kid, Niga Yeah yeah, yeah,
little yeah, Padisky, I got he everywhere.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
That's what I'm saying. I'm not shocked.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
They know how to win, Bro. They know how to win.
They work. They work the Clippers too the other night.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
They know how to win, Bro. Like, that's who I'm
shocked there. I actually thought the Clippers would be a
lot better with some of those pieces. But yeah, I'm
not shocked with Golden State, Man, when you know how
to win, and you have a system, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
They throw you in that system, and if you're not
in shape to guard them, bro, Bro, they gonna ring
you out of them. Bro, they gonna run your ass
clean out of it. And Al Horford comes from a
system where he knows how to pick and pop, get
to the corner threes. He knows how to be up
on pigs and ship like he like he went from
system to system. That's how he's gonna be able to
keep longevity.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Bro, I see that.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I'm not shocked on how when you sit back and
watch our Golden State wins, it's I'm not shocked at all,
not shocked at all. And they all on the free
of coordination and that you know what they light running
under the radar.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
You know what I'm talking about. They want to coast
next thing, you know, whole Golden State submarine underneath your
ass with all type of artill you know what I'm saying.
They coming up now, they fifth fourth, You don't even
see them, you feel me. That's just a little concern
that like of that depth, the longevity, just the depth
you know, anybody like you can really count on off

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your bench.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Moody coming off the bench. They got Gary Payton the third.
These guys are already coming off the bench.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Did Buddy He'll to Buddy Hill. You know, Buddy Hill
gonna fuck it up for he get it right. But
when he get it right, he gonna get it right.
You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
You gonna come in there, drive that bitch off his
leg and punt that bitch up the fifteenth ro But
he gonna hit a couple threes, he you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, So listen, I'm not shocked at how
they're winning. They got a whole system and it works.
They just plugging pieces in there. Man. Yeah, Golden State
is not gonna I'm at they popped up and they
was fifty and six in the West.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I'm not gonna be shot. Like, look, that's the system.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Another team that we talked about earlier, but I wanted
to bring it up again with the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I looked this up.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Their top three and defensive rating, top six and offensive rating. Deery.
Fox hasn't played a single game yet and they're still
tops to the West.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Pe.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
You had mentioned last week about the Fox steal. Do
you guys kind of still feel that way. And then
what has stood out the most outside of Wenby on.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
This team just I love their young energy. I love
the coaching the young guy man. I've watched him in
the timeout on and how he talked to them young boys.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
He coaching the shit out of the Spurs. And then
you got the generational talent. I like the fact that, like, listen,
let them develop, you know what I'm saying, because I
like what I'm seeing from young Harper. I like what
I'm seeing from young vi Sell. I like what I'm
seeing from these young guards ticket like now and then
you got another veteran. I'm not asking them to be
a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I win it this year.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I need them to develop. Like if you can get
another somebody else, I don't need no more guards. I
got these young guards I want to build around. So
now I just need somebody out there that could that
can kind of like protect Wenby a little bit more.
You know what I'm saying. I think I think Fox
can be that peace in the trade to say, hey,
let's go out east and see who we who needs

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a point guard right now, and and and and who
can we can put it here to the team with
Wenby that can help protect me. Needs a point guard, Yeah, Milwaukee,
And they're not gonna trade within the let alone copes,
let alone the same state. So like, realistically, you gotta
go look around and say, all right, whos is business man?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Right man? Give that's how they work, you know how
they work.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
So if you can get Fox and turn them into
like a Husavic, where's USA bitch in Chicago?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
You can turn them into something like that or something.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Who the young boy's gonna learn from though Pete experience, Yeah, experience.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
They gotta just go through it. So having Deer Fox
point guard ain't gonna help the development of that.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I mean, he can help them, but he's not at
the stage to where he could just be in the
locker room giving them game. He's still in his prime.
He got to play minutes. He's a thirty five minute
game player. Fox is, So that's taken away from the
young guys developing. Right So Fox will be better suited
on a team ready to win right now instead of

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like kind of wasting his talents on a team that's
like a friends playoff team right now. Like he needs
to be around a little more vets, Like, yeah, can
he help them. Obviously he can't. He's been all he's
like winning one of the All All Star has been
an All Star, right, wasn't an All Star one year?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like, I like, I'd rather have
Laurie in that locker room than Fox because Laurie ain't
tripping off playing. He's gonna be a vet. He gonna
give him game. He's a champion, you know what I'm saying. Look,
he fit Santonio in the locker room for like that
type of stuff than Fox because Fox is out there.
He need minutes he gonna take away from Like, with

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these young guys developing.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
We ain't even seen Fox yet and Winby yet out there.
We ain't even see them this.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Year yet, picked five games last year together too.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
You know what I'm saying that we ain't even see
what it looks like. You know you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
But I've seen what these young guys look like. Right,
you know they ain't gonna look bad than Bro. I
don't know, all right, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I'm expecting Bro to come in here.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I'm just saying the dynamic of the team, the way
that the age difference is. I like having them guys
playing developed with Winby right now for the long term,
I heard that, you know what.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I'm saying, you speaking, you speaking like you know the marathon,
I got it right. But right now, in the short term,
when we're talking sprint one hundred yards or fifty yards, man,
Fox right here, I'm not finna trade him for what
and get what.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So yeah, if you can get a big to help
Winby or you know what I'm saying, or help him
on the you know all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
But yeah, so he's saying they're just too guard heavy
for you.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, yeah, I like. I like the young guards developing.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I'm gonna make no assessment till I see them two together.
I think Fox get out here, it's gonna open up
another dynamic. And then one of them coming off the minute.
So the fact that they get to start while he's out,
they get experienced like this and then boom he comes back.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I know.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I actually like the spurs and the potential of what
they can be. Let's see what it looks like first
with fo then go from there.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
All right, I wanted to ask you about the being
in the NBA for your third year. This is Wenby's
third year we're seeing a centia as it stands now
looked up. You guys, you were an All Star at
that point. You average twenty five in the in the
game in your third year. When do you guys feel
like that next kind of big leap is when in
your early year the.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Third year you get it. The third year is delete.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
That's where you're really gonna find out who somebody is.
Some people longer than others, but like third year, you're
gonna see a lot right from a player.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yep, you know, and dramatically too.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
It ain't gonna be no some take long as other
beause a lot of times you're gonna be like, all right,
this is who he gonna probably be about that guy? Say,
like that guy who could be that guy? I knew
he was gonna be be honestly thought you were gonna
be at some point. You know what I'm saying, y'all,
just don't play no defense. Now I play defense. You
want the nigga say something to you. You get mad

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when you play d but you out there, I'm just cruising.
He being he being a six fold cruising sometime up
PT eight got like forty seven.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
He just been cruising at the feet thrown line, Like,
look at this nigga.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
This nigga cruising. This might be the coolest score in
the league. Just cruising no defense.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I'm like, look soon.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Somebody pops m out, okay, what's so? What's up right?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
You ain't finna jump out on no defense? Yeah? Am
my second year, my first second year, I was out
here getting steals. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
First second after that, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and no.
D started playing like forty five minutes a game. Lord, huh,
I was playing like forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
That's the Yeah, that's another thing. You a ton of
minutes minutes you say it over forty something? I need it.
I needy. They were pressed. I'm saying, they was doing
like this ship. Listen you, I'm like, what are you
in a lot of minutes? I was tired.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Both of you guys in your third year looked this
up as well. Played eighty two games in that seam.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You know what I'm saying, I'm playing all the games.
I'm playing HERD. I'm playing forty minutes a night. Man,
I ain't doing that no more.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
They not doing that no more.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Third year man, you first year man, you're figuring out
so much and it's going and second year you you're
picking up so much that you missed on the first.
When you get to your third year, you're so you
have a vision or at least an idea of what
you want to be in the league, and you're going
towards that.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
So yeah, I can see that. And if you're gonna
be that, dude, yeah, it really takes it.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Gonna be one of them ones. You're gonna be like
a Borderline All Star or All Star. That dude you're
gonna see a third year he gonna be notice most
of the and everything, most of the superstars right there,
you're gonna be at All Star, Borderline All Star, like
just miss it and you're gonna start seeing it. Yeah,
you're gonna start seeing it for sure. Then who else
in they third year right now?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Dang, that's a good ask question, right, who is in
the third year right now? Chet hug Oh really yep,
Chut Holgram in this third year? Yeah, yeah, he's taking
a little more initiative us a little bit. He got
a more opportunity because no role I like that. How
you like how you like to if they look good

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to you, man, I don't know. I don't know. They
looking like they can't be beat. They might go eighty
two or oh stop it.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
I'm just saying like they just know Jada up and
then when he come back, he might be back. So
they just know how oppressed the button. They don't panic
when they down. I'm trying to say, who match up
with them? Denver with that man, Denver matching Denver, Minnesota,
they still got If you Houston had a point guard,
Houston could have beat them. I didn't think they looked
as polished as expected on opening night.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
You know it's open to the night's opening night.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Though it ain't overreacting, but I'm saying it wasn't like
bang bang, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Hold on, man, hold on, I want to ask you something.
Focus man. I'm locked in. I'm locked in, locked in
the fuck man. You okay, I'm locked INOG you need
some medicine, man, get your ship man.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
You need some madaicon or coffee and ship man.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Locked in? Man, what you think of the two UH networks?
Have you seen peta Cock? Have you seen Amazon? Yeah?
What it looked like to you?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
All right, So Peacock is with UH McGrady, Mellow and
I like what they're doing over there.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I actually do.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I think, you know, when you put together a group initially,
you know they need time to jail, they need time
to get that chemistry right.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
But I like the direction they're going in together. Manns Man,
you certified some hand heels to we got you NBC
some hand heil mikes. Yeah. And I like the other group, Blake.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I think Blake is really good with that group over
there Amazon at Amazon.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
And I know it's gonna take time, you know, to jail.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, but I like, you know, I just like the
fact of I'm like hearing the perspective of the former players,
you know. I always like that who've been through the struggle,
who've been through the wars, you know, who have that perspective.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
To give, you know, I like that, So I'm all
for it. Uh.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
The Jordan interview, man, I feel like they just interviewed
Jordan for like two or three hours and they just
gonna cut that boom all season long. I like, I mean,
I just like hearing from him, like, regardless of what
it is, just him chopping it up.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And you shot he was nervous in front of white
kids shooting the free throw. You shot man. Dude said
he ain't shot the ball in like ten years or something.
He was nervous. Though he was nervous.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I was hit thinking what we have him in Memphis?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Shoot some free throws from the nervous because like the
expectations from Jordan's like he Jordan's not gonna miss this.
And when you ain't shot the ball in ten years,
you're like damn, all right, and then you know they
all everything on social media now, so you know they
all gonna be like da, like I ain't shot the ball,
like yamn.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
You know what I'm saying, making you're making you miss it?
You miss it? So what right? If that was jordan'sitting there,
what what's the first thing you would ask Mike?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
After man, Mike, what you've been on?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
What you what you've been out to?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
You fishing, blowing cigars everywhere? Like lord, living, you know,
traveling the world. You're doing what he should be doing. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
And put us on some game on some new ship.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Ain't here yet, man, blockchain and some ship. Yeah, how
about some ship it ain't out?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah? Yeah, I just be like, man, Jordan's let's smoke
a cigar, chop it up. It was almost like what
what what you've been up to? Right?

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Man?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
That kind of thing? How you doing? Man?

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And just I just now I don't know what I'll
say if Jordan was sitting right here right now, I
don't even know how I'll even start a conversation.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
What Geordan, what's up up to? Man? Good to see
you brood with what's up? What's up? Young fellow? Now?
What up? What up? I give you forty hope Now
I'm Geordan, Like, what's up? Jordan? I'm good? What what
you've been on? Right?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
See you fishing this ship? You got your new seven fifty? Yeah, yeah,
it's going around. It's going around the block on that
motherfucker right. Let me see what the ship looks like
on this side. Yeah yeah yeah, put me up on
some of this blockchain ship you got, right, Yeah, we
could do that later, right, what binness you into?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Right? Chopping down? You know, you know we got a
find of things going on.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
With I love to talk to Mike though, Mike good
money many right, that would be dope.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, we fuck with Mike though, real ship and that's it, Yes, sir,
we're out