A Walk Your Bike Wednesday (Hour 2) 6/19/24

Word of the Day. Dodgers Manager Dave Roberts joins the guys Coors Field in Denver to talk about the big come from behind win over the Rockies and what Willie Mays meant to him as a player and coaches in MLB. Number and Song of the Day. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day.

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We'll have Dodgers on deck less thanan hour and a half from now.
Dave Roberts is scheduled to join usin this segment at some point once
we can get him on the telephonefrom Denver, But a reminder until we
can secure his services for the conversationthat is just ahead. A reminder that

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Friday, June twenty eighth is thesecond stop of the Petros and Money Summer
Tour at Brewery X and Anaheim.Pretty exciting. Matt Dave Weeze tried to
send me a text like her youwant the welder. That's like we want
both want the airbrush, and Iwant to steal drums and I want my

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communication with Dodger PR. Just waitingfrom the call. What did Dodger PR
say, Like, Hey, buddy, what's popping? No? They said,
is it steel drum brand band?Or is it gonna be airbrush guy?
Fair? Question still to be determined. All right, So should we
do the word number and song ofthe day or something? Yeah, why

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don't we go in? I heardthat because we're still wain from Dave.
All right, Well, I needa little help for the word of the
day because of the word of theday. How his words the word of
the day. The word of theday is coast to coast Patchson Money Coast
to coast, which is our homageto the great radio show that runs here

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money Smith. The late Art Melwould have been all over this celebrating a

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birthday this week. Man, Ithought you'd find this interesting, Okay,
A mysterious mirrored monolith was found.Another one, I should say, was
found near Gas Peak in north LasVegas, in the Valley of Las Vegas
North area, very remote area.And there was a recent tweet sent out

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by the Las VEGASPD who tweeted outa photo and it's definitely fascinating. It
looks like the one from Stanley Kubrick'stwo thousand and one A Space Odyssey.
And a series of instances of mysteriousshiny columns or monoliths. Oh a monolith

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appearance. I love these. Theyhad been popping up around the globe since
twenty twenty. You got one inRomania in very remote places, one in
central California, one on Fremont Street, not remote, but not the strip
as we know, one in Utah, way way in the cut in Utah

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to where the authorities were scared tolocate it and show people where it was
because they thought people would get lostand die in the middle of nowhere.
And one in Wales on a beachin Wales very remote areas. One on
the Isle of Wight in America.I guess some weird art collective may have

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claimed responsibility in twenty twenty, butthat is murky. Nobody has claimed responsibility
for any of them in Europe,and one of them just popped up again,
or maybe it was there the wholetime and somebody just finally saw it
in Las Vegas. Now they're prettylight, so you can put them in
anywhere, and just something something tokeep keep an eye on. Matt.

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Many have said, I love themonolist sidings. Something sinister happening here.
If you see an ape throw agiant bone at it, then that's a
whole different story. That is okay. This is our guest that we've been
waiting to talk to the pride ofRancho Buena Vista High School in San Diego,
close to going to the Air ForceAcademy and running the option as a

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quarterback like d Dallas. Instead,he went to UCLA starred baseball player,
great friend of the show, overa decade as a player in the big
leagues, and of course, theDodger Skipper a championship In twenty twenty.
Dodgers went a thrilling eleven to ninevictory of the Rockies last night, seven
runs of the ninth. Joining usright now the proprietor of Red Stitch Winery

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on the Southern California Toyota Dealers CelebrityHotline, It is Dodger Skipper Dave Roberts
from Denver, Colorado. What's crackand Skip? How are you pet?
Shows? I am in Denver anduh it was. It brought a smile
to my face. How deep youwent into the archives, Rancho Buena Vista

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the option? Uh d daois?I mean Air Force Catedemy. That is
some good stuff, man. Andyou know what, I had been a
friend of this show for for acouple of decades, which has been a
huge pleasure of mine. Uh.We got a lot to discuss. I
mean there's a lot going, yes, we do, but we had a
good conversation ahead of us. Yeah. Well, first and while we hope.

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So it's up to Matt and I, but I'll habotage it guaranteed.
Last night was pretty remarkable. Anduh, and and the way it kind
of played out. Uh, You'veprocessed a lot over the years as a
manager and been through a lot,But are nights like that still special and
fun? Give us a little perspectiveon it. They're absolutely fun and they

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are certainly special. And you know, it's one of those things that each
day in baseball presents, you know, something new, and and you guys
are baseball fans and you guys canappreciate that. And you know, you
look at obviously Walker didn't have agood one, and you know, I'm
trying in my head is trying tofigure out what we can do to kind
of support him and how it's goingto look going forward. And then you

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got Michael Peterson, a young pitcherdrafted by the Rockies making his debut,
gets a win against his former team, and you know, Jason Hayward comes
off the bench. It's a grandslam. H You know, a few
days prior, we lose Mookie Bettsand Yoshinobu, so we're kind of,
you know, not downtrodden, butobviously we lost two key players, and

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so he won the first game andthen we're kind of not punning on last
night. But it's it's just didn'tlook good, you know, being down
five late and Jay Hay obviously andthen with what Tao did, and it's
just the fight of our guys,man, and it's just like the something
for me is it's something I'm reallyproud of, you know, being a
Dodger in it with these guys.But you know, knowing the Dodger fans,

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I mean, they can really appreciatewhat these guys stand for and how
they play the game. Well,you kind of started with it skip the
Walker Buehler situation. I know whenhe first came up and you know kind
of the way things were going tothe start, he said, a guy,
get a little bit of time.Do you have like a hard day?
Is it more an eyeball thing?And I guess what would the level
of your concern be with kind ofhow it's going for him right now?

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Well, you know what Walker alludedto it a little bit last night that
he might need a little blow tokind of reset, and that's something that
we kind of put into the mathwhen he came back and so getting hit
on the on the hip yesterday,the mechanics not in sync. So that
blow might be tonight, starting tonight, you know, as we bring Bobby

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Miller back. We haven't made thatdecision final yet, but that could be
the decision and the blow might starttonight. So I still believe in the
person, the player, you know, and what he's going to do for
us the rest of the season.I don't know how long the blow is
going to be, but we doneed him right because he's certainly not the

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Walker Bueller that we've all you know, come to know. Dave Roberts is
our guest. Happy to have him. Dodgers in Colorado looking good last night,
it was a lot of fun.You mentioned Mookie Bets going down and
just the day to day kind ofspeed bumps. It feels like there's a
lot that have come in the lastcouple of weeks. Do you relish this

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kind of thing having been a partof this for so long, the challenge
of kind of moving guys around andplaying different roles or is it always just
very difficult or is it something youexpect. How do you approach it?
I definitely, you know, Iwouldn't say relish because I think that I
would have it the other ways,all of our guys being healthy, I

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do expect it as far as theguy's back filling, uh, performing,
stepping up any way you want tokind of look at it. I have
seen over the last few days thefocus with Freddie and show Hey, as
far as you know, you loseMookie and you've got to step up,

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and he obviously certainly certainly has bigshoes to fill. And I also think
the bottom part of the order understandsthat they've had, you know, a
better part of this season of mediocrity, that they got to get going.
And I think that you know,last night with what Jason did, and
Jason had a big night a coupleof nights ago, and so that's some

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things that are happening. And aguy that I'm really really proud of right
now is Andy pa Hayes, justthe way he's playing on both sides of
the baseball. And going back tothe question, I think it's, you
know, we we do a goodjob of adding depth and creating a roster
full of depth. And one thingI have I do relish, Excuse me,
I do relish is seeing guys riseto certain occasions when given opportunities.

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I you know, just sort ofspeaking of Pias and a rookie and trying
to figure it out as he justarrived in the majors. What about someone
like Peterson? Like what leads youand and the team to say, Yeah,
this guy's been in the miners forten years, but he's ready,
now he's ready. How do youcome to that decision? Because man,
what a great story. It's agreat story, and you're not going to

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meet a sweeter guy. And youknow, I'll give you guys a quick
little story, a little inside.So his name is Michael Peterson, and
so in spring training I like tobring guys up, and you know,
we're talking to him, getting tointroduce him to the team, and he's
a very sensitive, soft spoken guy, and I it's it's you know,

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he was talking about what he's greatat and he couldn't really find anything that
he was good at, which wasreally disconcerting, to be quite all honest.
And so I'm trying to pump himup, and I'm trying to figure
out a way to give give himthis ulter ego, like you know,
Tommy gave Oral the bulldog and soit's nothing crazy, but it's Mike.

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So from spring training on, noone was allowed to call him Michael because
Michael is something that your mom callsyou and you're a kid. But I
wanted to change that mindset and puton the blinders and your Mike or MP.
And so he's taken that, embracedit, and you know, the
guy is daunting physically and those onehundred miles an hour or so, he

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can't be called Michael. So itwas again just a funny little inside story.
But I could couldn't be more excitedfor him. It's Dave Roberts,
not David, because Dave's got theedge on the Petross and Money Show.
You know, we've been excited towatch showe Otani just like the rest of
the globe, night in and nightout. As Dodger people. You've had

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him now for a while, gettinginto mid June. He's always got a
smile on his face. It seemsall the time, seems like he's having
fun. Obviously he's a generational player, but what's the day to day like.
It seems like he's been a joyto be around, at least watching
from far. He's a joy hereally is. He wants to win,

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He prepares every day, he bringsa joy every day, and then when
you see him in the batter's box, it is something special. Hitting a
ball four hundred and seventy feet,which he did last night, even at
altitude, I've just never seen aball hit like that. And he just

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does everything. Like you said,Petros, he's a once in a generation
type player and I'm just happy tosee his growth. His English is a
lot better than he eludes. Andhe's having a lot of good conversations with
our players, whether it's you know, what this ball's doing tonight, the
slideer, the sinker, the fastball, how it's playing that night. So
he's in the mix with all theseconversations. What you know, just going

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back to the pitching thing with Walkerand sounds like that's something we'll keep an
eye out here for in the nextcouple hours. But why do you think
is because guys are throwing too hard? What you know? I know,
I feel like we ask you thisall the time, Dave, just trying
to figure out why, because youknow, like the Yama Moto thing,
he's young, he's twenty five.You're doing everything right he's pitching every six
days, getting extra rest, andit just feels like pitchers, as hard

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as they have to throw in baseball, they just cannot stay out of the
way of injury. It's just theway it is now. In twenty twenty
four, I wish I had theanswer. I think in Yamamoto's case,
I was looking at, you know, some information that was given to me,
and he averaged ninety five call itninety five one miles an hour,

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and all of the starts this yearright around there, and then in that
start it was north of ninety seven. And so that's two miles an hour,
two plus miles an hour on thefastball that you're talking about effort over
one hundred pitches or you know,fifty to fifty five fastballs, and the

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split played up as far as thevelocity. So that's a tax on your
arm and your body. And Ithink to the bigger question is that these
kids just compete Earlier. Velocity islauded and applauded, and you know,
look for and people don't talk aboutcommand anymore. And it's one of those

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things that you don't like it untilyou really need it or you don't have
it. And so yeah, Imean, it's unfortunate, and we just
certainly don't have this injury thing figuredout as an industry in baseball. Well,
you were a Dodger, you werea Giant, You obviously are a

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beloved man on West Coast baseball circlesand all around. But we lost Willie
Mays, and he really seemed totry. He was Vin Scully's favorite player.
He really seemed to kind of transcendthe rivalry and transcend everything. What
can you tell us about Willie Maysand maybe some perspective for our listeners and

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guys like me that never saw himplay. So obviously I didn't get a
chance to see him play, andI just I did have a chance to
get to know him and consider hima friend. When I was up there
in the Bay, he was inthe clubhouse every day telling stories, and
I just was in awe that Iwas talking to Willie Mays, my dad's

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childhood favorite. I couldn't believe howstrong his hands were in forearms. His
recall of players and games was sogreat. He was a showman, you
know. And I think a lotof people have said that, and even
Bob Garrett mentioned this to me todaythat he heard that. You know,

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Willie wouldn't make the easy plays lookhard to make it a show, and
look the hard plays make make thehard plays look easy. And you could
argue that he was probably the bestplayer to ever you know, put on
baseball cleats and a lot of peoplewould would echo that sentiment. Yeah,
we lost a great one. Andthe game at Rickwood tonight, I think

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is a is a great h It'sturning into a commemorative thing, you know,
for Willie, and rightfully so.And you know, with the Negro
leagues and Major League Baseball and allthat he had to go through, it's
pretty amazing. And again, I'mjust very grateful that I got to call
him a friend. But I willshare a funny little story. So Maury

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Wills, as we all know,Maury Wills, who passed few years ago,
was my mentor. We were talkingabout Willie Mays and Giants Dodgers and
the rivalry, and Maury was sayingthat if I was driving on the freeway,
because he was talking about fraternization nowadayswith ballplayers, he said, if
I was driving down on the freewayand I saw Willie Mays having a flat

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tire, I would drive right byhim and wouldn't look back. You know,
it's just so funny where he wasjust talking about how many guys are
friends and you know, do golfcamps together and things like that. But
the time's different. But again,guys, we lost a great one,
no doubt. We're thankful that wecertainly have all the memories and we had
Vince Scully to tell so many ofthose stories on so many Dodger games whenever

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the Dodgers Giants would get together.The great history that these two franchises have
together. Before we let you go, I know, Petro said it on
the way in, so we'll getit on the way out here. Dave
redstitch wine dot com. You're inDenver, You're at altitude. They tell
you that wine will taste different atthirty six thousand feet. You know,
if you're trying to suck one backup in the cabin, a pressurized cabin

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of a tink campaign there. Whatabout in Denver does it take? Does
the palette process the wine differently foryou when you're at altitude a mile hot?
You know what it? The juice, good juice is good juice regardless
of what altitude. But I'm tryingto mine the water these days. I'm
trying to make sure I stay hydratedbecause I don't sleep well here in Denver,

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and a lot of players share thatsame sentiment, and so I'm trying
to stay hydrated. Hopefully we cankeep this game under three hours and get
ready for this day game tomorrow aswell. Yeah, those guys that gave
up seven runs of the Night didn'tsleep that way. Thank you very much,
Skip. We appreciate you, andwe always love catching up and having

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conversations. Thanks for making the time, and we sure we sure make it.
Hope it's worth our worth your whilefor our listeners. Absolutely, I
love it. And great catching offellas. There we go. Dave Roberts,
that sounds like Walker Buler's headed tothe el so we talked about last
hour. Sounds like that, Matt, you're prophetic in your way. You're

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like I said, the Profit ofOld I was gonna say I'm one of
the lost profits, but I thinkthey got into some trouble if I remember
right. Well, the four Horsemenof the Apocalypse are coming for the Rockies
again tonight because Dave Roberts doesn't sleepwell, not in Denver. So we'll

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be back. We still have thenumber of the day and the song of
the Day, and then we're gonnado the Dead and Alive. Then we're
gonna do fun Fact, then we'regonna do Cickets, and then we're gonna
hand it off to Kate's who's gonnado Morongo Casino Dodgers on deck, and
then the Dodgers gonna play again tomorrowearly and Matt and I will be on
after that around four point thirty.Well, that worked out. Nice conversation

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with Dodger skipper Dave Roberts gave usthe cattle call for what's going on with
the Dodge. Just looks like WalkerBuehler is going to get a blow.
How long is that blow going tobe done? Know, but he's going
to get a blow. Nice longexhale, and thank you to you for
listening and podcasting the show on theiHeartRadio app for your smartphone or following us

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on Twitter or Instagram, social mediaand such. But you could stream the
show live on the iHeartRadio app oryou can podcast it later. Either way,
we sure appreciate your patronage. Andright now it's time. Here's a
number of the day. Top numberof the day, well, number the

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day is a little bit of acorrections and retractions if you do yep,
as in September first Labor Day weekend, we do get that day off,
Matt. I don't think there's anyguy singing TLC down in the core get
off because I give it to youthe goodness of my heart. Boys,
everything we get because of Don Martintalked about it on Friday, the mess

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that became the Big Bang on theBay, my neighborhood fireworks show of record
that was canceled this year that hadbeen an annual on July third, every
single year since twenty eleven. Ohyes, the allegations that were made on
Friday exactly Well, turns out theallegations against the particular individual is a dear

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friend of your father's and he askedif he could, if I would have
an audience with him, and hewalked me through a lot of the issues
that have plagued the event. Verynice gentleman. A big listener of the
show, and said that he gotObviously the group that he runs with also
all listen, because he said hegot a number of phone calls after we

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discussed why the Big Bang at theBay was canceled, essentially pointing the finger
at him for not getting the paperworkdone. And he was very nice and
said, I'd love to give youmy side and what I've been dealing with
for ten years. He's a realand shaker, that guy, isn't it
he is. He's I believe heowns the boat house along with some other

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folks. So Morris runs the boatHouse, which of course is right there
in front of where they shoot offall the fireworks. It was a great
event, just even if you're notjust taking I mean, yeah, you're
taking the fireworks, that's awesome.But everybody in the neighborhood goes down all
the different neighborhoods that happened to surroundthe bay from Naples and all a long
beach there off Second Street to whereI live in Seal Beach. Really a

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great time to hang out with yourneighbors. All the bars fill up afterwards
because you don't have to work thenext day on the fourth on Main Street
on Second Street, and you getoutside with the family. You start early,
you play that day on the beach, getting the water. Make it
a celebration. Well, we mentionedpaperwork was perhaps why it was canceled that
these guys missed the deadlines. Wellmaybe not the case. Lawsuits have set

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the organizers back hundreds of thousands ofdollars from SURF, CERF Coastal Environmental Rights
Foundations accusing them of violating the CleanWater Act. They fight apparently fireworks shows
everywhere that take place over water,which really lit a fire under my ass,
as I would point out, ifyou're going to drag this guy into

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court and cost him hundreds of thousandsof dollars for an event that takes place
one day of the year for abouttwenty minutes and there is zero evidence that
it pollutes the Alamitos Bay, maybesomeone who spends a considerable amount of time
in the San Gabriel River just toacross the rocks there, maybe do yourself
a favor and lean into the hoboesand the smackheads and the meth addicts that

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live on the river jetties, andyou get the bay. I would like
to think that maybe the Coastal EnvironmentalRights Foundation would be concerned about their poop,
their needles, their drugs, theirtrash, their shopping carts, their
pallets, their food containers, theirbags, their mattresses, tires, bicycles.
I've seen a refrigerator in the river. I've seen a couch, a
bowling ball, and maybe just focuson them. Maybe they would have a

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little bit more to do with waterpollution. Then the big bang at the
bay and the twenty minutes that they'regoing to put in there on July third
and have put in as a celebrationof our country's Independence Day. So just
a little suggestion for the folks thereat the Coastal Environmental Rights Foundation and the
fights they choose to pick. Somy apologies to John and the paperwork,

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and he also pointed out maybe letthe Boys and Girls Club who were going
to be the charity benefit this year, maybe give them the deadline of when
they had to file the paperwork insteadof when they file it. Say oh,
you just missed it by a day. It would have been nice to
know what that data file would havebeen, as opposed to just tell him
that it was a daily So unfortunately, an audience with a real mover and
shaker like John Morris Man real moverand shaker. So I thank him for

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the insight and the frustration that hehas had to deal with since starting this
thing. All the way back intwenty eleven and even fighting through it to
the tune of hundreds of thousands ofdollars to try to keep us all happy.
Here More Park is landlocked and theyhave a July third fireworks extravaganza plan.
See people want to drive up toVentura County. There we go.
We'll do the big bang at theBay on Labor Day weekend. I believe

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that was something you shared with usas well in another spot of the way.
They're going to try to get aroundthis, so yay, and we
will return with your dad and alive guy Birthday of the Day. A
big thank you to Dave Roberts joiningus at the top of the hour.
We'll be on only until four thirtyand then we'll be on around that time
tomorrow after the Dodgers play First Bitchat Noone. Stay with us on AM

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II seventy LA Sports are home withthe Dodgers, so we just want be
defeated Wednesday on Petrosen Money Dodgers inColorado. We are happy to be with
you. We have an event comingup a week from Friday at the Brewery
X in Anaheim. We had DaveRoberts on sounded like he broke some is

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here, Matt, Yeah, Ifelt like it, and he basically told
us, He's like, look,there's nothing out there yet, but you
could see it in a little bit, and it was it was intimated last
night after the game. You know, the way that he's feeling when he
pitches I think he took a shotoff the hip there. You know,
you just kind of combine all thosethings and it seems to line up that

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we're right about at that spot middlelate June is kind of what they said
when they could do some inventory onwhere he was in his road back from
injury, and after having us worstouting since coming back, it certainly appears
as though we're going to get theword here pretty soon. The walker Buelers
headed to the to the il,so we got a lot accomplished. I
think, you know, we talkedabout the Juneteenth and the musician playing to

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nobody downstairs at the courtyard at thebuilding. We we had the Coast to
Coast monolith discussion of these weird monolithspopping up everywhere. We wondered why the
coastal people are worried about a littledust in the water when all this city's
poop runs right in there, andwe talked be the priority, you know,

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yeah, and we talked to DaveRoberts, so all very impactful stuff
and Matt said, draft only pitchersfrom now on. That's it. So
your dead guy. Birthday of theday, Matt nick Drake would have been
seventy six. One of the saddestsinger songwriter stories of all time, suffering
suck attash. Born in Burma,nick Drake was the son of a British

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engineer. They moved to Warwickshire andthat's basically where he grew up. His
older sister became a pretty famous screenactress. He went to boarding school and
kind of thrived as a young man. He ran the one hundred and two
hundred. He played rugby, wasthe captain of the rugby team, was
quiet and confident and aloof played theclarinet, played the sacks the piano.

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Formed a band called the Perfumed Gardeners. In the mid sixties, he ended
up at Cambridge, but around thenhe started neglecting his studies, becoming engrossed
in the UK folks scene. Startedrecording, but some bad experiences performing live.
You know, people thought he wasgoing to be like the Kingston Trio

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and they were all going to besinging shanties and he sounds like this so
good. They left him well unhappyand made him retreat from live performance.
He was extremely reluctant to perform infront of a live audience for the rest
of his life, which turned outto be very short. He did three
albums, and after the completion ofthe last one, he killed himself on

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an odea of antidepressants in his parents'home in nineteen seventy four. Very little
widespread attention after his death. Aroundhis death, about fifty people from compartmentalized
friendships were at the funeral, noneof which that his parents really knew.
But in the late seventies, He'sIsland, which never discontinued his music even

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though no one bought it, putout a box set of all his stuff
and it really started to build fromthere. By the late nineties, biographies
and BBC documentaries were being produced.In nineteen ninety nine, his song Pink
Moon was used in a Volkswagen commercialwhich was huge for them, and then

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a lot of movie soundtracks and nowMatt Royal Albert Hall Symphony Orchestra is going
to do Drake's music scheduled for thisJuly commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of his death,
So fifty years later, you couldsay his music has never been more
popular, and it certainly was notpopular at all at the time of his

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life and pretty long after his death. So always interesting to talk about Nick
Drake. A sad story, butthree albums and a box set of stuff
that is just really awesome, verysubtle, quiet singer. Yeah, you
never you know, most artists wantto get away from the commercialism side of
things, and obviously he wasn't aroundto say no. But god knows how

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many people dug into Nick Drake afterthe Volkswagen commercial and hopefully got beyond Pink
Moon and got brighter later. Oneof the just an awesome freaking album.
Yeah, they're all all three atall great, are great, and he
was he was a great artist.It was the Wes Anderson soundtracks that brought

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the music to me. I mean, nobody, nobody knew Nick Drake when
it was coming out, you know, Yeah, it's all you know,
some culture merchant brings it to you, and for me, I think it
was the Royal Tenenbaum's soundtrack. Butyeah, a great singer if you're not
familiar with him, always great music, great for the morning and contemplative times.
Matt, you had the Alive Guy. I do. Yeah, you

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want to talk about a spectrum,here we go. You get Nick and
I highlight us as the ass rockin the Dead and Alive Guy, but
don't really like the ass rock SaveTim Kats show of record. It's a
Happy sixtieth. The Brian vander Arkthe Brothers van der Ruk, Brian and
Brad founders of nineties as rock bandThe Verve Pipe Oh proma The Freshman.

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For the life of me, Icannot remember. I don't know what I
was taking barn and Grand Rapids playedmusic with his brother Brad. Growing up,
joined a mess of bands trying tomake it happen. His boy Elroy
was one, Johnny with an Iwas another, and then they got The
Verve Pipe Roll. In nineteen ninetytwo made a record at Station C Studios
in Grand Rapids put out their albumTen Songs Deep. I've Suffered a head

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injury. Had an acoustic version ofthis one, The Freshman. They entered
the Yamaha sound Check Battle of theBands. They won and their prize allowed
them to record a follow up album, pop Smear, and that's sold about
fifty thousand copies. A Hey,let's go. RCA starts sniffing around.

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They sign them, they re releasepop Smear, and want them back in
the studio with a legitimate producer.So they go with Jerry Harrison of Talking
Heads. A lot on his resumeup to that point, Crash Test,
Dummies, Poy Dog, Pondering,Bodines, Violent Fans, first two live
records, so he's like, hey, I can make you guys an ass
rock record, but these tracks you'regiving me, Eh, how about that?

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They're Freshman on the first album,so let's rework that. Let's get
it on here. And the firstsingle, I remember it well. It
was a massive priority for RCA.It was called Photograph. They spent a
fortune trying to make that thing happen. Photograph, Yeah, the verve pipe
z it Man. It was goingto be their live It was their alt

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rock crossover to hot AC top fortyband, and it mid charted and it
bombed, and then someone decided tostart playing this song the Freshman, and
next thing you know, number onenumber one alternative at Adult Alternative and a
hot AC top five on the Hotone hundred, one of the biggest songs
of the year. Album sells overa million copies. Follow up single,

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not so much. Follow up albumnot so much. So our man Van
der Ruark goes solo and we havenot heard from him so much since.
Yes, you're saying the vander Arkof his career ended around then, yes,
exactly. The arc of his careerconcluded with this one, began and
concluded with this one. He putout his last solo record in twenty twenty

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one. Happy sixtieth to Verve PiperBrian vander Art. All right and well
return we still got more. We'renot done. We got a fun fact.
You know, you feel like,well, it's not that long of
a show, two and a halfhours. It's a good amount of show.
That's a lot of great sports talkfor you to you know, I
mean in the Louis sure we're missinga little. We're gonna talk about Brownie

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James next. You want to stickaround for that. H