October 23, 2024 • 47 mins
A car chase to start off the show. Remembering the life and career of Fernando Valenzuela. Dodgers great Orel Hershiser joins the guys to talk about his friend and former teammate. Great Sports Talk
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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the LA Dodgers in sync and down the Green Petrosin Money,
Drosin Money, Rosin Money Rod Wait wait stop, yeah stop
it did that? Just did she just blow off the road.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think she did.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh my god, she blew off the road. We were
watching a chase.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, like it could not have Oh no.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
God, in the underpass. Oh my god. I don't know.
So there was a car chase and with crazy lady
and she went all the way up to to hatch
a pee. They said it was a Honda and then
she was coming back it hot.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I thought it was a Volvo for a second, it's
a Honda CRV.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And then she came back down the hill on the Grapevine. Uh,
speeds up to one hundred and thirty miles an hour.
You just knew she was gonna lose control. Yeah, she did,
and now there's pieces of the automobile everywhere thrown across.
This did not end well. Five South definitely. Well, the
car exploded underneath the underpass.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It because you're going one thirty in a hime. Yeah, fire,
it's on fire. Oh. Look they're under the thing, looking
under the thing, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh they're they're deep in there. I mean you see it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're really out like an oyster shell. They're getting under
that underpass to get a shot of the car, and
it is mangled.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, don't go one hundred and fifteen in how to
see her or.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
At least nobody else was hurt. But man, I don't
know about this lady.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They normally will not give you this long of a look.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Take how doesn't care now, dude? Yeah, John, obvious death
all right?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, Okay, well that's gonna do that. Let's go ahead, start.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
To show her away. Okay, bring back the you know.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I think I just heard that man say this woman
is now obviously dead.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Hey, okay, timing not great there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I'm gonna go ahead. Yes, are you alleging that
she was thrown free?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Tim?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I am going to say, yes, that's exactly what he's
probably doing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You're saying, she's out of the field, like the black dahlia.
That's what you're telling me.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
She's not picking daisies either.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No impacted one fifteen Code eleven forty obvious death.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, remember we were doing that one, you know, Matt,
Once you get up in that area, yeah, once you
get up there. We were doing that one where the person.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Jumped out of the car, Remember that one.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And they died. So it's not the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Obvious death, not the first time. If you're gonna uh,
you're gonna take it to the grapevine, you're gonna hit
triple digits. You're not prepared to hold an automobile when
it starts getting a little a little shaky. Yeah, this
is the way it's gonna end. You know, did you.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Guys witness it when it happens. I missed it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I have my head turned on. I missed it, and
I rewound it and saw it. Oh you did, because
I'm here at home with the with the tvo or
they call it DVR.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Now, yeah, no DVA, tvo brand name.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And it looks like he is uh, well, you know,
it's like Kleenex. You know, Matt it's anonymous, Yes, exactly.
It looks like, yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Looking for she's snut in the car. Now. I'll also
point out the uh cars pretty much cut in half,
so there is that as well.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
So maybe not olivers of the car.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well you think they'd want to like pull out.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Of those, and uh, they're not. They're gonna They're gonna
stick away.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And we are literally like frogs and headlights or flashlights
watching the accident where not we can't get off it.
I mean you could say that was a real car
wreck of an opening.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, it was kinda.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
They're walking all the way up the embankment. I mean,
where do they think her body flew? Well, you know what,
remember the guy on the five that blew out of
his car and hit the sign.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, so I think because it's I feel bad saying it,
but you know, just went back and kind of tried
to pause it and sort of yeah that you know,
she crossed the shoulder there, hit the dirt and looks
like probably rolled a good three to four times.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes, oh yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Thing came to rest. So so yes, I think that's
the you know you're on the roll and where the
seatbelt and you're gonna go ahead and get thrown.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It doesn't have a roll bar.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No incredibly safe cars these days, you know, the Honda
CRV is what I'm guessing that was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But well it didn't help her. But then again, she
was going one thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Not at that rate of speed, that's for certain.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
All right, maybe, yeah, they're pulling out now. Now, maybe
we should play the song again and try to, like
like the lawnmower, try to pull the thing again.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Pretend like I hate hit. Let's hit the choke. Let's
let's pull out that choke. Let's pump it, and let's
get this thing started. In a world full of followers,
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be a bull, go get out vic all petros and
Money AM five seven Sports Live everywhere. I think Kate's
is not watching the replay for I.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Think ca Cow wants this body. They want to see
the body.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Ca Cow's like hanging around for the man.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We're not We're not NBC. We want the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Technically they are CBS.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But no, that's a good point. Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
My god, we went back to it. Stop Stop Petrosen
Money Show, Empire seventy LA Sports, Dodgers Yankees, Game one
of the World Series, rip, Fernando.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You had a lot, I mean, and we got the
one thirty eight to the five interchange Quail Lake Road overpass.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No way, you better go look at the lake because
you ain't getting by. I'm trying, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So she was on the five south, Yes, that's what
it was. So she's on the five south, five south, Yes,
she decides to hop onto Zenobia Way and crosses grass.
She like doesn't make a.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Clean lost control, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Lost control, And then that's how she got down there,
because she didn't fly off the overpass.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, no, that's what it looked like to start.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
For a second. But no, she went on Zenobia away
and that just took it to the dirt.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
She went under the bridge to die like Anthony Keatis
and his little gut.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, okay, I never want to feel the way I did.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's try to do it again. I'm sorry, Ronnie, I'm sorry. Yeah,
they have Zenobia up there for you, Matt.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, they're looking for something.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's like three or four body What else could they
be looking for? Kate's not her wallet or phone.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
A body part maybe, because if the cars, if the
car's not altogether, you can't imagine that, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The person is you get all that squared away?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right? Maybe the music one. It looks like maybe
the car was also impaled on.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That that that girder.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I just saw on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh oh the crash.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, okay, let's twisted steel there, guys.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, all of her is not left in that car.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Half the car is missing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
She hitded at one fifteen. Obvious death.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right, let's start.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Let's try it again.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you. We need the gong please so we can
do it right. That I blame the fact that the
gong wasn't there. Let's try it again. Not a great
start for us, guys in a world full of followers.
Be a bull going it.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I take ala Is back to the courts and a
young Jim, a young man that looks like a young
Tim Gaze with dual earrings, two loops, and bedazzled jeans,
pleading his case.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They've well that's good, but uh Channel seven showing a
Channel seven is showing a slow mo of the crash.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now okay, well listen, everybody's got their own programming decisions.
I'm gonna roll with the kid that's got the double
chin and the two new thearings.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He does not look like Kate's. Kate's doesn't have a
double chin. Kate's face is carved like Tony Curtis.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Talking about in his high school days when he had
the double hoops.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And he seems like the kind of guy that would
wear a black dress shirt and a bright blue tie.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They are going. Seriously, they are going brock Hewart's clicker
on ABC seven and be like that here and here
and here and back. Okay, all right, okay, it is
a big day in great sports talk. We got Dodgers,
we got Yankees, we got Game one of the World Series.
Coverage just brought to you and partner by Chef Marit
those seasonings, the seasoning partner of the Dodgers. It's World
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Series time. Bring out the chef and you uh the
Rogan and Jonas endeavor in beautiful Hollywood Park Casino in Inglewood, California,
home of the into a dome where the Clippers get
cracking a night.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Seems like it was wildly successful.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
There was a long line to get those tickets, Matt,
but nobody left with tickets.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, that's only part one is a two part affair.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I asked Tim Katz this morning because I'm stupid.
I said, Tim, what happens if you and Sacks? Yeah,
team party of eight. What happens, Tim, if you and
Steve Sacks on scam announce the winner in the morning
and they don't call in they're not listening, what happens?
(10:38):
And he said, it doesn't make a difference. We're going
to email that person.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ah, So you had to show up to register in person,
but you don't have to respond or listen to scam.
I feel like you should. It should have been. If
it's mandatory to show up at their remote, it should
be mandatory to listen in order to win, right.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You'd think, But all you really have to do is
sit there and monitor your email. They're not gonna feel
like a loophole.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
They're not gonna email the winner until after the announcement,
so that person is not going to know like tonight,
like hey, hey, I already won. I'm not gonna listen. No,
they have to listen just like everybody else. But man,
I understand what you're saying. You know radio from the nineties,
that would have been kind of cool, Like, hey, you
got five minutes. You're on the clock, right, Raoul from Monrovia?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Right, jump through the hoop man, So you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Know what happened.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I was part of this a long time ago. There's
a trick to that people start calling to flood the
lines so ra can't call in fair point.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So here's here's my question, Kate. If I may as
a former former programmer, not that you don't know your
way around producing the show.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well no, but nobody. I mean, come on, Matt, your
level of bro.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I appreciate, thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, well, why
don't you call them?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Oh, put them on the air?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, why don't you call them and then you announce
as the winner and then you pop them up?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Do we do the old like I'm dialing beepoop beep, beepopo. Alright,
it's ringing exactly right.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, Yeah, you're on the radio with Tim Kates and
saxon the am. Guess what? Guess what?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Exactly right? Exactly right, Kates.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
That that's a pretty good programming, Matt. You know that
rivals the programming of Tito on Power one oh six.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is Hey, let's let's step to Tito's style, all right, Kate,
I want you to call that person in the morning.
Let's let's get the build up, you know, and maybe
just like share the eerie code so all the people
in that area code are like they get all freaked
out that it's gonna be them that won.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh, I love it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Or I could do it like Jerkey Boys and go hey,
sugar tears.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Maybe call one of the numbers and say, no, you
didn't win. I just wanted to call and say thanks
for coming to the Rogan and Rodney shit bing bang boom.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Look at this. I just have a text that says
I wish Rogan and Rodney would announce it in advance
that Jonas would be filling in at remotes. I would
have tried to make it out to Englewood in the hood.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, Jonas does have a lot of fans, understandably, they.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Had two pros and a cup of Joe was out
there this morning, come on and obviously the first topic.
Because Jonas is a class at and doesn't start his
show off with a death car crash in the Grapevine,
nor Antelovalley, why couldn't I have that? Well, Fred is
the real death merchant. Anyway, So whenever somebody dies tragically,
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and obviously we lost Fernando and he had just taken
a step away to be with his health, and those
around the Dodge organization and closer to the situation knew
it wasn't a great circumstance, and we lost Fernando. So
whenever somebody dies, Fred really like, he really starts pumping
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his knees. And it's not because Fred is old. Because
Fred was like this at the Korean station when I
met him twenty five years ago, twenty two years ago.
You know, I wish someone would die, you know, so
he could really lean in. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Look, we all have our strengths, and that's Fred. Fred's
strengths is dealing with death.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, he gets it, you know. I mean, he's a lot,
you know, he's he comes from the days of local news,
when people watch local news not just for car crashes,
but now that that is the only reason they watched
local news is for chases. But the Fernando situation, which
is very sad, is also a great reminder of the
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history of the Dodgers and some of the more recent
history here in Los Angeles. Compared to Dodgers, Yankees and
the shot heard around the world and all the different
stuff that you read about, but and giants and all
the stuff that happened back in New York. What happened
with Fernando here, which we'll get into as the show
goes on, was very special and very very special to
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a lot of people and bridged a lot of gaps.
And that's what Fernando as a play did for the city.
And I don't think the Dodgers would mean as much
to the city. I don't think it would even be
close if Fernando Mania. And it was really ten years
of the guy being a staple and a god starting
for the Dodgers. It wasn't like Insanity, which was like
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a month and he was just kind of a middling
player who was doing crazy stuff. Fernando was dominant and
in eighty one he was lights out crazy. And I
don't think the Dodgers are the Dodgers without that, not
even close. I don't think the relationship, the love affair
with the Latino fan base is like that without Fernando Mania.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So mania is attached to it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And it was not Yeah, you couldn't get a Musa
Khan in the kitchen at the restaurant. I can vouch
for that. When he was pitching, the radio was all
the way up with Haimi Hadeen calling it, and it
was a special time. It was a very special time.
And if you know anything about the history of the
city of Los Angeles, Chavez Ravine was kind of like
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a Mexican shanty, but it also had some Alvera street
vibe where they sold trinkets and ponchos and I don't
know if they had Luca door masks back then, but
that's what it was. And obviously those people were removed
for the stadium, and there was a lot of la
politics involved, and it created a lot of bitterness, whether
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you believe it was right or wrong. A lot of
people were moved for different things in those years, free
ways and such to be built, and there was a
lot of bitterness in the Latino community because of that,
no doubt. And Fernando made it cool for Latinos to
embrace the Dodgers, not just Mexicans, but everybody else. Salvador
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all the way up and down Guatemala, the Ticos, Etikas,
the Chapins, the Hondurans, I mean, everybody. My God, Haimi
herein their family's from Ecuador, and it was just a
very special thing. And then it never stopped. It never
remained it never fizzled out. It always remained special to
where you got accountants and hedge fun guys high fiveing
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dudes with face tattoos or real Pachuco sunglasses at Dodger Stadium.
That's what's always been cool about being a Dodger fan
in La. It bridges the gap between you and a
lot of different cultures, no matter what culture you are.
And man, that's Fernando. That's almost exclusively Fernando. So when
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you look at it in that spectrum, what a huge
loss for the community, not just the Latino community, but
all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, you go to a Dodger game, and I think
Bill Platschki put it perfectly. I mean, we're there, you know,
we've been there enough to see the fans arriving, and
you know it's the number one throwback jersey. It's not
even close, Like it's not even close when it comes
to players that are no longer active players on the roster.
I mean there's Fernando's everywhere you look.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And he was a private guy, you know, he was
a little bit like Vin in that way. I mean,
obviously like Ichiro and Otani. He could speak English, he
chose really not to very much, and that's somebody's choice
and that's fine. But he was very engaging with people
throughout the years, but he was a very private guy.
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One of the few people that got to know him well,
really well in a very private way was our own
David Massey, who is going to talk to us at
four point thirty. Dave introduced me to Fernando once, and
I could tell how close their relationship was and that
they were kind of guys that were confidants in a way.
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I'm sure Fernando recognized Dave from way back in the
early nineties around town because Dave was working in sports
radio in town in that time around the Dodgers. So
Da will join us around four thirty. But the impact
of Fernando Venezuela and his story just where he comes
from in Mexico and how he became a Dodger and
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how he rose from obscurity to play the way he
did and he hit and he played first base, and
he was a silver slugger and he was a gold
glover at his position and when he left the Dodgers,
he got out and played in the Mexican leagues and
came back and went back and forth. Just an amazing story.
And I just think without Fernando, Matt, do we have
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Modello meech a lot of Monday? Do we play Bonda
music at Charger games? You know stuff? I mean, Fernando
created this whole La sports culture. The mister cartoon clown mask.
I mean, it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's say he's young, you know, sixty three. Oh yeah,
very sad, way too young. It's sad. And as you know,
when he left the team before the end of the season,
you know, obviously you speculate what it could be, and
then you find out it's how and you hope that
you know he's going to come back and maybe he's
going through something and he'll be fine. And then just
as quickly, seemingly as he left, he's gone. And the
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tributes begin to pour in and former teammates and the colleagues,
and you see the tributes online. John Suhu with his
first ever photo of Fernando and his last ever photo
of Fernando, and it's very sad, and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Fernando with Reagan, Sweet Mullet, Fernando and Nancy Fernando with everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Like it's one of the most incredible rookie seasons in
the history of baseball, and it's just beyond like. That's
the thing is, the mania was so crazy, but the
performance was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, the mania was a little bit more warranted. Now
we have manufactured mania like Bronni and Lebron that we
had to deal with last night, and then this happened,
and in La especially eclipsed what the situation manufactured or
not was over at the Crypto but definitely way too young.
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But none of us really knew Fernando personally, Dave did
and all his teammates and all that stuff. The impact
of what he created in the city is going to
go on and on and on after we're all gone.
The bridge that he created between the Latino fan base
and the Dodger franchise, I don't know. I don't know
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where we would be without it. I don't know what
they would be like without it. It would just be Rob
Low in the stands looking like a dork with a
major League Baseball hat on.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think there's you know again, I you'll never know,
but yeah, it's it completely changed the demographics of the
fan base of the Dodgers. Like you said, it connects.
We've had this discussion a million times about Lakers Dodgers,
who's the number one team in town. Like, it's just
it's so different with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The it's just not close. It's it's not closed.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The spread is so much wider generally, you know, because
it's baseball generationally, because of just the the demographics of
the sport and who plays and where players come from
and the makeup of Los Angeles. It's not close, you know,
And and Fernando is is one of the faces of that.
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You know, if Vin Scully was the soundtrack to you know,
anyone from the age of I don't know what twenty
five to ninety, the soundtrack of their youths, you know,
just listening to games, then you have this whole massive
swap of Dodger fans that'll tell you a me Dodge
fram because Fernando, I mean, millions and millions of people
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have then passing on to their kids and their kids
and their kids because of just one individual showing up
and just an incredible backstory, you know, it's one thing
to like you said, nowadays and the way we you know,
get excited about players. They play travel ball, they play
perfect game, they have private coaches, They started playing baseball
exclusively when they were eight years old.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The town Fernando comes from is famous because Fernando came
from there, exactly. That's the only reason. There's nothing else
that ever happened there. You look it up on Wikipedia.
There's literally a picture of a tree, there's no there's
no building, and it says this is where Fernando's from.
So truly an amazing thing and a global thing. We
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are going to talk to Oral Herscheizer in the next
segment because he just texted he's available and and he
has some memories that he's going to share. We we're
going to try to put Oral on later in the week.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Put them on again. We can talk about the Yankees
and Dodgers on Friday. We can talk about Fernando today
with Orl.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I mean, it's really the people that played with him
and the people that know him and broadcasted with him
that that we should be hearing from. So we'll be
right back. We lost Fernando Valens. Whether Dodgers are in
the World Series against the Yankees at the same time.
Just a wild confluence of emotion for the baseball heart
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of the city of Los Angeles. We'll be right back
with Oral Herscheizer Dodger legend and was honored by the
Dodgers in the last year. Yeah, just retireds number around
the same time as a Fernando was and goodness wow,
right you think about that. So we'll be right guys.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Bet shrow some money and five to seventy ELA Sports.
We got Game One of the World Series coming up
on Friday, five o'clock. First pitch, Dodgers on deck at four.
Remember every morning scam continues, SAX and Kate's in the
am six to nine am, and on Friday p we
will move to noon a noon start twelve to four pm.
Getting you ready for Game one of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Matt joining us right now. One of the great Dodgers,
one of our dear friends. He was honored last year,
so was Fernando. He crossed over with Fernando for the
better part of his career with the Dodgers about seven seasons.
And of course from Sportsnet LA the Heart of a
Lion and it sadly watched a lot of our heroes
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over the past few years, Vince Scully, Tommy Lesorda pass Away,
and Fernando of Aveezuela. Announced yesterday, Oral Herscheizer joins us
to reflect on the Petrosen Money Show. What's crack An, Oral,
thank you for making yourself available to us today. We
really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Well. I don't think there's a day that goes by
that I don't listen to you guys. So it's a
pleasure to be on and to give tribute to my friend.
You know, a Los Angeles icon, but such a contrast
between what he meant for the city and how popular
he was and how famous he was, but then also
how he conducted his personal life and his friendships.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
He is.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
He is a.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Contrast in style, but he was always classy, always poised,
and had an amazing sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You know, one of the things I loved about being
an athlete, just at my level, was just all the
different people you met and from the different parts of
the world, and how much it enriched your life to
know people from different places. Fernando's backstory is an amazing,
amazing one, and we'll be talked about more and more
(26:21):
since his passing, which is sad, but it's great to
talk about it. What was he like, you know, as
a guy who had had so much fame, but a
guy from such an interesting background.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, I got to know him in double a, you know.
And he spends you know, barely a year and a
half in the minor leagues and barely fourteen months away
from dirt field where the log was his pitching rubber,
and he's in the big leagues, you know, doing miraculous things.
He had a very keen sense of who he was
(26:58):
and confident in his own skin, but not arrogant, was
able to communicate without speaking the language. Had a very
busy sense of humor as far as uh dry and
a little bit sarcastic verbally, but jublike in his physical humor,
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from lassowing your leg and tripping you, to tapping the
wrong shoulder and making it turn, to taking full swings
while playing pepper and hitting the ball off the bat
and it would come at you bunt instead of a
long drive.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
In our.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Was very in depth at the your droll each other
off each other's chests or knees and using the butt
end of your glove and just amazing amounts of eye
hand coordination. We used to play Hacky Sack in the
(27:58):
Back Angels club house and kept track of how long
we could keep the hacky sack in the air. And
he was teaching me kicks and behind the back kicks
and head and he would get mad at me when
we'd drop it because he could do it for thirteen,
twenty thirty times a row, and then he'd pass it
to me, and I at the beginning, as a little gringo,
(28:19):
I'm like, you know, I could do it maybe three
and he would chase it down and save it with
a toe save and put it back up in the air,
And sooner or later I got good enough where we were.
We were into the three four hundreds before that Hacky
Sack would hit the carpet.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Guys, are you know about the same age? Oral, So
you mentioned you're in double A with him, and then
you see him he beats you to the bigs, Like,
did you have any inclination that that was coming, that
that nineteen eighty one season, one of the greatest in
the history of baseball when it comes to rookies, was coming.
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Had you seen that.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You just worry about him, that you want him to
do well. Right, he's a teammate from double going up there,
you understand that. You know, you're the guy that took
him to Kentucky Fried Chicken and maybe picked up a
six pack of Budweiser at seven to eleven and then
dropped him off as an apartment. You were the guy
that you know, the itinerary came out and he couldn't
read English, and you made sure he made the bus,
(29:19):
or you made sure when we hit Tulsa or one
of the other Texas League cities that that he could
go eat. And you know, and now he's in the
big leagues and he's thrust into this start, and it's
like you just want him to do well. You're you know,
you're you're a friend, you're a brother, you're a parent,
all the different things that you feel when you're living
(29:41):
vicariously for somebody else. Mos now you're oh my gosh.
And personally for me, it was I can make it too.
This guy was my team, he's my teammate. I know,
I know he throws ninety two and I throw ninety
(30:01):
or ninety one. You know, you know all that, but
it's like he did it like Steve Sachs was there
earlier than me, Fernando was there earlier than me, Alejandro
Payana was there earlier than me. Tom needn't fear Joe Beckwlett.
So it's like, but this guy a year and a
half and had his age a year and a half
(30:23):
of the money. You just go, we can do this.
And then you know, Daki La John was our manager
in San Antonio, and he starts doing those marvelous things
in those starts and then the All Star Game Rookie
of the Year. But we had a television plugged in
and our dugout during our games to watch Fernando games.
So talk about the world stopping in La or the
(30:45):
world stopping in households that never watched baseball before and
grandma's and grandpa's watching it. And we had nomar on.
He was telling me about how the world stopped when
Fernando pitched. It stopped in San Antonio, Texas with a
double A team in the with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Amazing stuff from the great Oral Herscheiser. Or you have
a very unique perspective just media wise, because you know
the La media. You won the World Series here in
eighty eight. You worked at Espen all those years in
the national media and you now you work at Spectrum
and your Twitter and the whole social media part of it.
(31:22):
You've got that figured out. What was it like? What
was Fernando like after Fernando Mania? What was its effect
on him if he had any at all, Same guy.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
But probably just got a little shyer, could speak perfect English,
but used that in some ways like kind of like Otani.
They don't want to make a mistake, they don't want
to be embarrassed, and they also can use it as
kind of a hedge. But same guy and even closer
(31:55):
in relationships, because you know, he walked out of the
dugout when I finally got to the big leg. You know,
he walked out of the dugout and it was Fernando,
this Fernanda that getting pulled in every direction. And I
got to experience that a little, but not like him.
And when you speak about the media perspective of the
national media, the worldwide media, and then the Los Angeles media,
(32:18):
you're talking about he's news everywhere, but he's the heart
and soul here. And there are people that are part
of the story, and then there are people that are
the story. There are people that are part of the organization,
and then there are people that are the organization. So
(32:41):
the contrast that I began with, which I have thought
about since yesterday finding out, is just the contrast in
styles of how much he meant to everybody here and
around baseball and especially here though in the Latino community,
but how he meant so much to us internally. There
was no difference other than this guy just doesn't get it,
(33:04):
he doesn't understand, and he doesn't play the celebrity role.
He just he's just Fernando.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
F Go.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He's Fernando. He's Fernie. He's Freddie, he's thirty four, he's hey, you,
he just a guy.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We remember when and it happens right on occasion and
you scratch your head and you say, why, you know,
why does it take so long? What is it that
they're holding out for? What could possibly the debate be
to not make this happen? And I remember it with
Ron Santo and the guy who's such a great, you know,
ambassador for baseball, one of the best players of his air,
(33:43):
and it's just like, what did they have? What's wrong
with him being in the Hall of Fame? How is
that a bad thing. How you know how important was
it for Fernando a year ago to get that, to
get the number, to get that from the Dodgers, to
get that from the fans, to kind of have that moment,
for him to have that as a close friend to
his What did that mean? And how happy are you
that they were able to get that thing put together?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, Well, deserving doesn't always get to what you deserve.
And I trust the Dodge organization and love current management
and how they got it done. Yeah, And I don't
think they got it done because of health concerns. They
got it done because Fernando deserved it and it was time.
(34:29):
You know, Jackie broke the barrier. Roberto Clementi changed the
culture of baseball and how Latinos were treated at the
big league level. Fernando changed Los Angeles and the Dodgers
and the fan base. And he changed it again by
having his number retired without being a Hall of Famer.
(34:51):
And he would tell you that there's it's not the
Hall of really really good or really really impactful. So
I get get Baseball's dance, but I am so glad
that the Dodgers did what they did, and he deserved
that day. To be remembered and to have it for
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him and his family, and for Linda and the four
kids and the seven grandkids, and that day and for
all of Los Angeles to show their love. It was
just the right thing to do. And as far as
waiting or the time, I don't think there's any guilt.
I don't think there's any problem. I think it's always
(35:36):
the right time. The organization has a pulse, they understand,
and they do the right thing at the right time.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Harl Herscheiser, Ladies and gentlemen. Important to remember baseball icon
Fernando Valenzuela, but also a great human being and a
private person and a teammate and a grandfather and all
of the things that we all are, but also somebody
that changed baseball culture forever. Maybe a third statue coming
(36:07):
up with Jackie Robinson and Sandy Kofex there at Dodger Stadium,
hopefully Oral God bless you. Thank you for doing this today.
We won't ask you about the World Series or anything
like that until Friday, but thanks for doing it. Or
we know it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Hey, I love you, guys. And there are radio stations,
and there's radio programs, and then there's you guys, you're
on top.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You're the best.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
We love you too, brother, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Thank you all right?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
See yea or Herscheizer, ladies and gentlemen. Very nice of
him to do that, make himself available to us. I
was four in nineteen eighty one. Matt lived in Hammond, Indiana.
Good to have that perspective, absolutely, Tim Kats had two
hoop ear rings and to be dazzled diaper A sad day,
(37:03):
but also something to remember too, something that's important for
younger people that weren't around then, and wonder why Dodger
Stadium is the way it is and why the Latino
fan base is so important to baseball, in particular the Dodgers.
It's Fernando or As orl said Fernie, which was a
(37:25):
pretty good one in the eighties around here. We'll be
back David Massey, friend of Fernando's as well, and somebody
that knwhim well as a broadcaster is going to join
us in the next hour and maybe we'll get into
a little bit of what's going on between the Dodgers
and the Yankees. More to come on AMBI seventy LA Sports,
your home of the.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Dodgers, Big thank you to orl Herscheiser, Petro sand Money
Am five seventy LA Sports your home of the Dodgers,
your home of the World Series, or with a beautiful
tribute to his former teammate, longtime friend, broadcasting colleague Fernando Alezuela,
(38:06):
who passed away yesterday. David Vesta will join us in
the next hour, also a friend of Fernando's, been working
with him for a decade plus now. And we get
ready for the World Series. As we're on three to
six today, the Clippers will launch their twenty twenty four
campaign tonight right here at seven pm. Adam Owsen will
be along with pregame at six.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Very nice to hear from Oral and very nice of
him to do that. Like you said, Matt, you could
podcast everything on the iHeartRadio app. Oral was talking about
No mar Garcia Para and correct me if I'm wrong, Tim.
No mar Garcia Para went on Spectrum Sports at LA
(38:47):
that went live today to talk to Oral and No
mar gave a shout out to scam and Tim kats
Am I correct in saying, so.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, let's hear real quick. This is him with John
Hartungue and no more.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Obviously you have family roots in Mexico as well, and
I wanted to begin by asking, long before you got
a chance to meet Fernando Valens Whale and get to
know him on a personal level, what did Fernando mean
to you and your entire family?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
He meant a lot? You know, we all know today's
definitely a sad day. I was listening earlier today to
Steve Sachs and Tim Cakes on the radio.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, thank you, Mimar, that's all we're going to play.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
Oh, and there were callers calling in and having amazing
memories about Fernando. It was one particular.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Caller not for one second too, It's an emotional says,
he means a lot. He then named x Tim Gates
and you it pause.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
How you guys are going to react to that?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
All right, Let's okay, let's try that again. We'll do
it like you want. We'll react and then just go
back and play the rest.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Asking long before you got a chance to meet Fernando
Valleys Whale, get to know him on a personal level?
What did Fernando mean to you and your entire family?
Speaker 6 (40:11):
He meant a lot? You know, we all know, today's
definitely a sad day. I was listening earlier today to
Steve Sachs and Tim Kates on the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You guys appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Let's listen, guys, Let's not stop. Let's just keep listen.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Callers calling in and having amazing memories about Fernando. And
there was one particular caller, her name was Rose, who
shared her story and she was talking about going to
her grandparents and Fernando would be on and she was
she was such a young child, and how that meete
her such a fan become a Dodger fan, knowing what
(40:52):
he meant to hit her grandparents, especially her grandparents and
her family being from Mexico, Mexican, And the reason that's
just stood out to me because I have the same story.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, it's I appreciate. No more listening this morning, guys.
And he has a great interview with Sports in at
LA that you can check out on social media Twitter
and Instagram. But he's right, we took so many calls
this morning. People got emotional.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Do you have any recordings of those calls? I heard
you had like five people started to cry.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I wish I could, I wish I could bring a
plan back, but unfortunately we don't have the recordings right now.
But we took so many calls from people, and the
caller he was talking about in particular, Rose It. It
was heartbreaking because her parents were Dodger fans. The grandparents
didn't really know English and didn't really understand baseball, but
they saw Fernando out there on the mound, and all
(41:43):
of a sudden they became baseball fans, learned the sport,
learned to love the Dodgers, and they had that all
in common, from grandparents to parents to this little girl,
you know, under the age of ten at the time,
and she remembers it to this day and now she's
got her own family.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Scam was remarkable this morning because not only did you
hear from Ladasa, the people and everybody's different perspective and
everybody's little stories about how Fernando impacted them young or
not as young. And you also had Dusty Baker on yeah,
which just pretty good. And then you also had Mike Soosha,
(42:18):
who caught the no hitter right in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, June in nineteen ninety he caught that no hitter,
which ironically, Pedro Guerrero was the last out of the
game in the ninth inning, and Mike told the story
about how before the game he was in the video
room getting ready for that start, and earlier Dave Stewart
that day threw a no hitter and they were watching
the highlights of Oke Smoke did. And so Mike said
(42:41):
he was in the video room watching video getting prepared
as the catcher that night, and Fernando as he was
going out to the clubhouse out to the field, walked by,
peeked his head and said, I'm gonna throw one tonight,
and he threw a no hitter that night.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
How about that? Huh? And you know do we had
the Vin Scully call? Can we play that? Do we do?
You know? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
To no hitter?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
While you're it's going to take you a second here, Pace,
I got it all right, Let's go the strike.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
One pitch to Pedro Guerrero swung on and missed in
the crowd. Now with more emotion following every pitch, there
was a short chin paid roll, paid row as they
did in Boston in the eighty six World Series, to
try and taunt Strawberry, and now they're doing it to Guerrero,
(43:34):
hoping to distract him. Hoping to upset him, hoping perhaps
to make him try too hard. Fernando ready in the strike.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
Two pits is hit back to the box, dribbling the second,
Samuel on the.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Bed close the first double play.
Speaker 9 (43:49):
Fernando Velonzuela has pitched a no hitter at ten seventeen
in the evening of June the twenty ninth, nineteen.
Speaker 8 (44:01):
Maybe you have a sombrero, throw it to the.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Sky, Come on, beautiful And he laid out for four
minutes after that, beautiful freaking balls of Vin Scully, my.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
God and the balls. If I may of Don Martin
to take Dan Patrick off the air, to put scam
on despite the protests of his partner Dan Patrick, to
have those tributes, to have the Dodger conversation, to have Nomar,
(44:34):
to have Rose call in and talk about four generations.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Some are saying Don didn't go far enough, that he
should have taken Dan off the feet as well.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I'm a I'm digging through the Dan Patrick Show timeline.
What you missed quote? It was a cool moment. I
know Lebron's polarizing to people, not to me. I appreciate
what I'm seeing in the fact your son can play
with you. I thought that was a great moment.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Don't worry Matt Colin Cowherd and Gelino to the bone,
A guy who really knows the area, and what are
you He waited two hours of his three hour show
in Los Angeles from Los Angeles to mention that Fernando
Valezuela had passed away.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, you know, when when you can see the coliseum
from the four h five and you share that with
the people, you just operate a little bit differently here
in town, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean for a guy that sits there and preaches
to everybody what LA is like, oh yeah, I mean,
you'd think it'd be a golden opportunity for him to
school his national audience about what this guy means to
LA and some of the history of Los Angeles and
Chavez Ravine and so on and so forth. But none
of that. None of that. Just like hey, Lamar Jackson, MVP,
(45:50):
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Dan also had on aman Rossaint Brown. So oh well,
it's football in there, young Angelino. Maybe bring up you usc.
You see what he thought about what's going on over there.
But you know, so way to go, scam.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
I appreciate no more for listening. I appreciate the shout out.
That was very nice of him. We took a lot
of great calls, a lot of emotional calls.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It's a great show.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
It was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
If you missed it, you can actually podcast it on
the iHeartRadio app and we'll be back tomorrow at six
am with more.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Exactly right, well move your Scott's yes to me, amigo
and the winner to those World Series tickets.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Understand right eight o'clock, but not necessary that that person listen.
It's what I figured out.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, Kates can work on that. Get massage that Kates.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Massage or manipulate both tomato. Tomorrow we'll be back with
more great sports talker. Get a big thank you to
oil Hers Schezer for letting us talk to him a
little bit today on a rough day but also a
special day to remember the legacy of the great Fern.
End of Vallesa word number song Coming up next, David Vassille,
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Stay with us.
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the LA Dodgers in sync and down the Green Petrosin Money,
Drosin Money, Rosin Money Rod Wait wait stop, yeah stop
it did that? Just did she just blow off the road.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think she did.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh my god, she blew off the road. We were
watching a chase.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, like it could not have Oh no.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
God, in the underpass. Oh my god. I don't know.
So there was a car chase and with crazy lady
and she went all the way up to to hatch
a pee. They said it was a Honda and then
she was coming back it hot.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I thought it was a Volvo for a second, it's
a Honda CRV.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And then she came back down the hill on the Grapevine. Uh,
speeds up to one hundred and thirty miles an hour.
You just knew she was gonna lose control. Yeah, she did,
and now there's pieces of the automobile everywhere thrown across.
This did not end well. Five South definitely. Well, the
car exploded underneath the underpass.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It because you're going one thirty in a hime. Yeah, fire,
it's on fire. Oh. Look they're under the thing, looking
under the thing, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh they're they're deep in there. I mean you see it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're really out like an oyster shell. They're getting under
that underpass to get a shot of the car, and
it is mangled.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, don't go one hundred and fifteen in how to
see her or.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
At least nobody else was hurt. But man, I don't
know about this lady.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They normally will not give you this long of a look.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Take how doesn't care now, dude? Yeah, John, obvious death
all right?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, Okay, well that's gonna do that. Let's go ahead, start.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
To show her away. Okay, bring back the you know.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I think I just heard that man say this woman
is now obviously dead.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Hey, okay, timing not great there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I'm gonna go ahead. Yes, are you alleging that
she was thrown free?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Tim?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I am going to say, yes, that's exactly what he's
probably doing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You're saying, she's out of the field, like the black dahlia.
That's what you're telling me.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
She's not picking daisies either.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No impacted one fifteen Code eleven forty obvious death.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, remember we were doing that one, you know, Matt,
Once you get up in that area, yeah, once you
get up there. We were doing that one where the person.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Jumped out of the car, Remember that one.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And they died. So it's not the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Obvious death, not the first time. If you're gonna uh,
you're gonna take it to the grapevine, you're gonna hit
triple digits. You're not prepared to hold an automobile when
it starts getting a little a little shaky. Yeah, this
is the way it's gonna end. You know, did you.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Guys witness it when it happens. I missed it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I have my head turned on. I missed it, and
I rewound it and saw it. Oh you did, because
I'm here at home with the with the tvo or
they call it DVR.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Now, yeah, no DVA, tvo brand name.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And it looks like he is uh, well, you know,
it's like Kleenex. You know, Matt it's anonymous, Yes, exactly.
It looks like, yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Looking for she's snut in the car. Now. I'll also
point out the uh cars pretty much cut in half,
so there is that as well.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
So maybe not olivers of the car.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well you think they'd want to like pull out.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Of those, and uh, they're not. They're gonna They're gonna
stick away.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And we are literally like frogs and headlights or flashlights
watching the accident where not we can't get off it.
I mean you could say that was a real car
wreck of an opening.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, it was kinda.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
They're walking all the way up the embankment. I mean,
where do they think her body flew? Well, you know what,
remember the guy on the five that blew out of
his car and hit the sign.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, so I think because it's I feel bad saying it,
but you know, just went back and kind of tried
to pause it and sort of yeah that you know,
she crossed the shoulder there, hit the dirt and looks
like probably rolled a good three to four times.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes, oh yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Thing came to rest. So so yes, I think that's
the you know you're on the roll and where the
seatbelt and you're gonna go ahead and get thrown.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It doesn't have a roll bar.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No incredibly safe cars these days, you know, the Honda
CRV is what I'm guessing that was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But well it didn't help her. But then again, she
was going one thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Not at that rate of speed, that's for certain.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
All right, maybe, yeah, they're pulling out now. Now, maybe
we should play the song again and try to, like
like the lawnmower, try to pull the thing again.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Pretend like I hate hit. Let's hit the choke. Let's
let's pull out that choke. Let's pump it, and let's
get this thing started. In a world full of followers,
(05:48):
be a bull, go get out vic all petros and
Money AM five seven Sports Live everywhere. I think Kate's
is not watching the replay for I.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Think ca Cow wants this body. They want to see
the body.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Ca Cow's like hanging around for the man.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We're not We're not NBC. We want the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Technically they are CBS.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But no, that's a good point. Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
My god, we went back to it. Stop Stop Petrosen
Money Show, Empire seventy LA Sports, Dodgers Yankees, Game one
of the World Series, rip, Fernando.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You had a lot, I mean, and we got the
one thirty eight to the five interchange Quail Lake Road overpass.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No way, you better go look at the lake because
you ain't getting by. I'm trying, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So she was on the five south, Yes, that's what
it was. So she's on the five south, five south, Yes,
she decides to hop onto Zenobia Way and crosses grass.
She like doesn't make a.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Clean lost control, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Lost control, And then that's how she got down there,
because she didn't fly off the overpass.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, no, that's what it looked like to start.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
For a second. But no, she went on Zenobia away
and that just took it to the dirt.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
She went under the bridge to die like Anthony Keatis
and his little gut.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, okay, I never want to feel the way I did.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's try to do it again. I'm sorry, Ronnie, I'm sorry. Yeah,
they have Zenobia up there for you, Matt.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, they're looking for something.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's like three or four body What else could they
be looking for? Kate's not her wallet or phone.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
A body part maybe, because if the cars, if the
car's not altogether, you can't imagine that, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The person is you get all that squared away?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right? Maybe the music one. It looks like maybe
the car was also impaled on.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That that that girder.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I just saw on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh oh the crash.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, okay, let's twisted steel there, guys.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, all of her is not left in that car.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Half the car is missing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
She hitded at one fifteen. Obvious death.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's gonna do it?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right, let's start.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Let's try it again.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you. We need the gong please so we can
do it right. That I blame the fact that the
gong wasn't there. Let's try it again. Not a great
start for us, guys in a world full of followers.
Be a bull going it.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I take ala Is back to the courts and a
young Jim, a young man that looks like a young
Tim Gaze with dual earrings, two loops, and bedazzled jeans,
pleading his case.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They've well that's good, but uh Channel seven showing a
Channel seven is showing a slow mo of the crash.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now okay, well listen, everybody's got their own programming decisions.
I'm gonna roll with the kid that's got the double
chin and the two new thearings.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He does not look like Kate's. Kate's doesn't have a
double chin. Kate's face is carved like Tony Curtis.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Talking about in his high school days when he had
the double hoops.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And he seems like the kind of guy that would
wear a black dress shirt and a bright blue tie.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They are going. Seriously, they are going brock Hewart's clicker
on ABC seven and be like that here and here
and here and back. Okay, all right, okay, it is
a big day in great sports talk. We got Dodgers,
we got Yankees, we got Game one of the World Series.
Coverage just brought to you and partner by Chef Marit
those seasonings, the seasoning partner of the Dodgers. It's World
(09:55):
Series time. Bring out the chef and you uh the
Rogan and Jonas endeavor in beautiful Hollywood Park Casino in Inglewood, California,
home of the into a dome where the Clippers get
cracking a night.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Seems like it was wildly successful.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
There was a long line to get those tickets, Matt,
but nobody left with tickets.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, that's only part one is a two part affair.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I asked Tim Katz this morning because I'm stupid.
I said, Tim, what happens if you and Sacks? Yeah,
team party of eight. What happens, Tim, if you and
Steve Sacks on scam announce the winner in the morning
and they don't call in they're not listening, what happens?
(10:38):
And he said, it doesn't make a difference. We're going
to email that person.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ah, So you had to show up to register in person,
but you don't have to respond or listen to scam.
I feel like you should. It should have been. If
it's mandatory to show up at their remote, it should
be mandatory to listen in order to win, right.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You'd think, But all you really have to do is
sit there and monitor your email. They're not gonna feel
like a loophole.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
They're not gonna email the winner until after the announcement,
so that person is not going to know like tonight,
like hey, hey, I already won. I'm not gonna listen. No,
they have to listen just like everybody else. But man,
I understand what you're saying. You know radio from the nineties,
that would have been kind of cool, Like, hey, you
got five minutes. You're on the clock, right, Raoul from Monrovia?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Right, jump through the hoop man, So you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Know what happened.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I was part of this a long time ago. There's
a trick to that people start calling to flood the
lines so ra can't call in fair point.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So here's here's my question, Kate. If I may as
a former former programmer, not that you don't know your
way around producing the show.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well no, but nobody. I mean, come on, Matt, your
level of bro.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I appreciate, thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, well, why
don't you call them?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Oh, put them on the air?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, why don't you call them and then you announce
as the winner and then you pop them up?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Do we do the old like I'm dialing beepoop beep, beepopo. Alright,
it's ringing exactly right.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, Yeah, you're on the radio with Tim Kates and
saxon the am. Guess what? Guess what?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Exactly right? Exactly right, Kates.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
That that's a pretty good programming, Matt. You know that
rivals the programming of Tito on Power one oh six.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is Hey, let's let's step to Tito's style, all right, Kate,
I want you to call that person in the morning.
Let's let's get the build up, you know, and maybe
just like share the eerie code so all the people
in that area code are like they get all freaked
out that it's gonna be them that won.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh, I love it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Or I could do it like Jerkey Boys and go hey,
sugar tears.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Maybe call one of the numbers and say, no, you
didn't win. I just wanted to call and say thanks
for coming to the Rogan and Rodney shit bing bang boom.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Look at this. I just have a text that says
I wish Rogan and Rodney would announce it in advance
that Jonas would be filling in at remotes. I would
have tried to make it out to Englewood in the hood.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, Jonas does have a lot of fans, understandably, they.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Had two pros and a cup of Joe was out
there this morning, come on and obviously the first topic.
Because Jonas is a class at and doesn't start his
show off with a death car crash in the Grapevine,
nor Antelovalley, why couldn't I have that? Well, Fred is
the real death merchant. Anyway, So whenever somebody dies tragically,
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and obviously we lost Fernando and he had just taken
a step away to be with his health, and those
around the Dodge organization and closer to the situation knew
it wasn't a great circumstance, and we lost Fernando. So
whenever somebody dies, Fred really like, he really starts pumping
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his knees. And it's not because Fred is old. Because
Fred was like this at the Korean station when I
met him twenty five years ago, twenty two years ago.
You know, I wish someone would die, you know, so
he could really lean in. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Look, we all have our strengths, and that's Fred. Fred's
strengths is dealing with death.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, he gets it, you know. I mean, he's a lot,
you know, he's he comes from the days of local news,
when people watch local news not just for car crashes,
but now that that is the only reason they watched
local news is for chases. But the Fernando situation, which
is very sad, is also a great reminder of the
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history of the Dodgers and some of the more recent
history here in Los Angeles. Compared to Dodgers, Yankees and
the shot heard around the world and all the different
stuff that you read about, but and giants and all
the stuff that happened back in New York. What happened
with Fernando here, which we'll get into as the show
goes on, was very special and very very special to
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a lot of people and bridged a lot of gaps.
And that's what Fernando as a play did for the city.
And I don't think the Dodgers would mean as much
to the city. I don't think it would even be
close if Fernando Mania. And it was really ten years
of the guy being a staple and a god starting
for the Dodgers. It wasn't like Insanity, which was like
(15:16):
a month and he was just kind of a middling
player who was doing crazy stuff. Fernando was dominant and
in eighty one he was lights out crazy. And I
don't think the Dodgers are the Dodgers without that, not
even close. I don't think the relationship, the love affair
with the Latino fan base is like that without Fernando Mania.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So mania is attached to it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And it was not Yeah, you couldn't get a Musa
Khan in the kitchen at the restaurant. I can vouch
for that. When he was pitching, the radio was all
the way up with Haimi Hadeen calling it, and it
was a special time. It was a very special time.
And if you know anything about the history of the
city of Los Angeles, Chavez Ravine was kind of like
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a Mexican shanty, but it also had some Alvera street
vibe where they sold trinkets and ponchos and I don't
know if they had Luca door masks back then, but
that's what it was. And obviously those people were removed
for the stadium, and there was a lot of la
politics involved, and it created a lot of bitterness, whether
(16:26):
you believe it was right or wrong. A lot of
people were moved for different things in those years, free
ways and such to be built, and there was a
lot of bitterness in the Latino community because of that,
no doubt. And Fernando made it cool for Latinos to
embrace the Dodgers, not just Mexicans, but everybody else. Salvador
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all the way up and down Guatemala, the Ticos, Etikas,
the Chapins, the Hondurans, I mean, everybody. My God, Haimi
herein their family's from Ecuador, and it was just a
very special thing. And then it never stopped. It never
remained it never fizzled out. It always remained special to
where you got accountants and hedge fun guys high fiveing
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dudes with face tattoos or real Pachuco sunglasses at Dodger Stadium.
That's what's always been cool about being a Dodger fan
in La. It bridges the gap between you and a
lot of different cultures, no matter what culture you are.
And man, that's Fernando. That's almost exclusively Fernando. So when
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you look at it in that spectrum, what a huge
loss for the community, not just the Latino community, but
all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, you go to a Dodger game, and I think
Bill Platschki put it perfectly. I mean, we're there, you know,
we've been there enough to see the fans arriving, and
you know it's the number one throwback jersey. It's not
even close, Like it's not even close when it comes
to players that are no longer active players on the roster.
I mean there's Fernando's everywhere you look.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And he was a private guy, you know, he was
a little bit like Vin in that way. I mean,
obviously like Ichiro and Otani. He could speak English, he
chose really not to very much, and that's somebody's choice
and that's fine. But he was very engaging with people
throughout the years, but he was a very private guy.
(18:29):
One of the few people that got to know him well,
really well in a very private way was our own
David Massey, who is going to talk to us at
four point thirty. Dave introduced me to Fernando once, and
I could tell how close their relationship was and that
they were kind of guys that were confidants in a way.
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I'm sure Fernando recognized Dave from way back in the
early nineties around town because Dave was working in sports
radio in town in that time around the Dodgers. So
Da will join us around four thirty. But the impact
of Fernando Venezuela and his story just where he comes
from in Mexico and how he became a Dodger and
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how he rose from obscurity to play the way he
did and he hit and he played first base, and
he was a silver slugger and he was a gold
glover at his position and when he left the Dodgers,
he got out and played in the Mexican leagues and
came back and went back and forth. Just an amazing story.
And I just think without Fernando, Matt, do we have
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Modello meech a lot of Monday? Do we play Bonda
music at Charger games? You know stuff? I mean, Fernando
created this whole La sports culture. The mister cartoon clown mask.
I mean, it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's say he's young, you know, sixty three. Oh yeah,
very sad, way too young. It's sad. And as you know,
when he left the team before the end of the season,
you know, obviously you speculate what it could be, and
then you find out it's how and you hope that
you know he's going to come back and maybe he's
going through something and he'll be fine. And then just
as quickly, seemingly as he left, he's gone. And the
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tributes begin to pour in and former teammates and the colleagues,
and you see the tributes online. John Suhu with his
first ever photo of Fernando and his last ever photo
of Fernando, and it's very sad, and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Fernando with Reagan, Sweet Mullet, Fernando and Nancy Fernando with everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Like it's one of the most incredible rookie seasons in
the history of baseball, and it's just beyond like. That's
the thing is, the mania was so crazy, but the
performance was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, the mania was a little bit more warranted. Now
we have manufactured mania like Bronni and Lebron that we
had to deal with last night, and then this happened,
and in La especially eclipsed what the situation manufactured or
not was over at the Crypto but definitely way too young.
(21:00):
But none of us really knew Fernando personally, Dave did
and all his teammates and all that stuff. The impact
of what he created in the city is going to
go on and on and on after we're all gone.
The bridge that he created between the Latino fan base
and the Dodger franchise, I don't know. I don't know
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where we would be without it. I don't know what
they would be like without it. It would just be Rob
Low in the stands looking like a dork with a
major League Baseball hat on.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think there's you know again, I you'll never know,
but yeah, it's it completely changed the demographics of the
fan base of the Dodgers. Like you said, it connects.
We've had this discussion a million times about Lakers Dodgers,
who's the number one team in town. Like, it's just
it's so different with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The it's just not close. It's it's not closed.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The spread is so much wider generally, you know, because
it's baseball generationally, because of just the the demographics of
the sport and who plays and where players come from
and the makeup of Los Angeles. It's not close, you know,
And and Fernando is is one of the faces of that.
(22:14):
You know, if Vin Scully was the soundtrack to you know,
anyone from the age of I don't know what twenty
five to ninety, the soundtrack of their youths, you know,
just listening to games, then you have this whole massive
swap of Dodger fans that'll tell you a me Dodge
fram because Fernando, I mean, millions and millions of people
(22:37):
have then passing on to their kids and their kids
and their kids because of just one individual showing up
and just an incredible backstory, you know, it's one thing
to like you said, nowadays and the way we you know,
get excited about players. They play travel ball, they play
perfect game, they have private coaches, They started playing baseball
exclusively when they were eight years old.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The town Fernando comes from is famous because Fernando came
from there, exactly. That's the only reason. There's nothing else
that ever happened there. You look it up on Wikipedia.
There's literally a picture of a tree, there's no there's
no building, and it says this is where Fernando's from.
So truly an amazing thing and a global thing. We
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are going to talk to Oral Herscheizer in the next
segment because he just texted he's available and and he
has some memories that he's going to share. We we're
going to try to put Oral on later in the week.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Put them on again. We can talk about the Yankees
and Dodgers on Friday. We can talk about Fernando today
with Orl.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I mean, it's really the people that played with him
and the people that know him and broadcasted with him
that that we should be hearing from. So we'll be
right back. We lost Fernando Valens. Whether Dodgers are in
the World Series against the Yankees at the same time.
Just a wild confluence of emotion for the baseball heart
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of the city of Los Angeles. We'll be right back
with Oral Herscheizer Dodger legend and was honored by the
Dodgers in the last year. Yeah, just retireds number around
the same time as a Fernando was and goodness wow,
right you think about that. So we'll be right guys.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Bet shrow some money and five to seventy ELA Sports.
We got Game One of the World Series coming up
on Friday, five o'clock. First pitch, Dodgers on deck at four.
Remember every morning scam continues, SAX and Kate's in the
am six to nine am, and on Friday p we
will move to noon a noon start twelve to four pm.
Getting you ready for Game one of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Matt joining us right now. One of the great Dodgers,
one of our dear friends. He was honored last year,
so was Fernando. He crossed over with Fernando for the
better part of his career with the Dodgers about seven seasons.
And of course from Sportsnet LA the Heart of a
Lion and it sadly watched a lot of our heroes
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over the past few years, Vince Scully, Tommy Lesorda pass Away,
and Fernando of Aveezuela. Announced yesterday, Oral Herscheizer joins us
to reflect on the Petrosen Money Show. What's crack An, Oral,
thank you for making yourself available to us today. We
really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Well. I don't think there's a day that goes by
that I don't listen to you guys. So it's a
pleasure to be on and to give tribute to my friend.
You know, a Los Angeles icon, but such a contrast
between what he meant for the city and how popular
he was and how famous he was, but then also
how he conducted his personal life and his friendships.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
He is.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
He is a.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Contrast in style, but he was always classy, always poised,
and had an amazing sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You know, one of the things I loved about being
an athlete, just at my level, was just all the
different people you met and from the different parts of
the world, and how much it enriched your life to
know people from different places. Fernando's backstory is an amazing,
amazing one, and we'll be talked about more and more
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since his passing, which is sad, but it's great to
talk about it. What was he like, you know, as
a guy who had had so much fame, but a
guy from such an interesting background.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, I got to know him in double a, you know.
And he spends you know, barely a year and a
half in the minor leagues and barely fourteen months away
from dirt field where the log was his pitching rubber,
and he's in the big leagues, you know, doing miraculous things.
He had a very keen sense of who he was
(26:58):
and confident in his own skin, but not arrogant, was
able to communicate without speaking the language. Had a very
busy sense of humor as far as uh dry and
a little bit sarcastic verbally, but jublike in his physical humor,
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from lassowing your leg and tripping you, to tapping the
wrong shoulder and making it turn, to taking full swings
while playing pepper and hitting the ball off the bat
and it would come at you bunt instead of a
long drive.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
In our.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Was very in depth at the your droll each other
off each other's chests or knees and using the butt
end of your glove and just amazing amounts of eye
hand coordination. We used to play Hacky Sack in the
(27:58):
Back Angels club house and kept track of how long
we could keep the hacky sack in the air. And
he was teaching me kicks and behind the back kicks
and head and he would get mad at me when
we'd drop it because he could do it for thirteen,
twenty thirty times a row, and then he'd pass it
to me, and I at the beginning, as a little gringo,
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I'm like, you know, I could do it maybe three
and he would chase it down and save it with
a toe save and put it back up in the air,
And sooner or later I got good enough where we were.
We were into the three four hundreds before that Hacky
Sack would hit the carpet.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Guys, are you know about the same age? Oral, So
you mentioned you're in double A with him, and then
you see him he beats you to the bigs, Like,
did you have any inclination that that was coming, that
that nineteen eighty one season, one of the greatest in
the history of baseball when it comes to rookies, was coming.
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Had you seen that.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You just worry about him, that you want him to
do well. Right, he's a teammate from double going up there,
you understand that. You know, you're the guy that took
him to Kentucky Fried Chicken and maybe picked up a
six pack of Budweiser at seven to eleven and then
dropped him off as an apartment. You were the guy
that you know, the itinerary came out and he couldn't
read English, and you made sure he made the bus,
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or you made sure when we hit Tulsa or one
of the other Texas League cities that that he could
go eat. And you know, and now he's in the
big leagues and he's thrust into this start, and it's
like you just want him to do well. You're you know,
you're you're a friend, you're a brother, you're a parent,
all the different things that you feel when you're living
(29:41):
vicariously for somebody else. Mos now you're oh my gosh.
And personally for me, it was I can make it too.
This guy was my team, he's my teammate. I know,
I know he throws ninety two and I throw ninety
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or ninety one. You know, you know all that, but
it's like he did it like Steve Sachs was there
earlier than me, Fernando was there earlier than me, Alejandro
Payana was there earlier than me. Tom needn't fear Joe Beckwlett.
So it's like, but this guy a year and a
half and had his age a year and a half
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of the money. You just go, we can do this.
And then you know, Daki La John was our manager
in San Antonio, and he starts doing those marvelous things
in those starts and then the All Star Game Rookie
of the Year. But we had a television plugged in
and our dugout during our games to watch Fernando games.
So talk about the world stopping in La or the
(30:45):
world stopping in households that never watched baseball before and
grandma's and grandpa's watching it. And we had nomar on.
He was telling me about how the world stopped when
Fernando pitched. It stopped in San Antonio, Texas with a
double A team in the with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Amazing stuff from the great Oral Herscheiser. Or you have
a very unique perspective just media wise, because you know
the La media. You won the World Series here in
eighty eight. You worked at Espen all those years in
the national media and you now you work at Spectrum
and your Twitter and the whole social media part of it.
(31:22):
You've got that figured out. What was it like? What
was Fernando like after Fernando Mania? What was its effect
on him if he had any at all, Same guy.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
But probably just got a little shyer, could speak perfect English,
but used that in some ways like kind of like Otani.
They don't want to make a mistake, they don't want
to be embarrassed, and they also can use it as
kind of a hedge. But same guy and even closer
(31:55):
in relationships, because you know, he walked out of the
dugout when I finally got to the big leg. You know,
he walked out of the dugout and it was Fernando,
this Fernanda that getting pulled in every direction. And I
got to experience that a little, but not like him.
And when you speak about the media perspective of the
national media, the worldwide media, and then the Los Angeles media,
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you're talking about he's news everywhere, but he's the heart
and soul here. And there are people that are part
of the story, and then there are people that are
the story. There are people that are part of the organization,
and then there are people that are the organization. So
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the contrast that I began with, which I have thought
about since yesterday finding out, is just the contrast in
styles of how much he meant to everybody here and
around baseball and especially here though in the Latino community,
but how he meant so much to us internally. There
was no difference other than this guy just doesn't get it,
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he doesn't understand, and he doesn't play the celebrity role.
He just he's just Fernando.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
F Go.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He's Fernando. He's Fernie. He's Freddie, he's thirty four, he's hey, you,
he just a guy.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We remember when and it happens right on occasion and
you scratch your head and you say, why, you know,
why does it take so long? What is it that
they're holding out for? What could possibly the debate be
to not make this happen? And I remember it with
Ron Santo and the guy who's such a great, you know,
ambassador for baseball, one of the best players of his air,
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and it's just like, what did they have? What's wrong
with him being in the Hall of Fame? How is
that a bad thing. How you know how important was
it for Fernando a year ago to get that, to
get the number, to get that from the Dodgers, to
get that from the fans, to kind of have that moment,
for him to have that as a close friend to
his What did that mean? And how happy are you
that they were able to get that thing put together?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, Well, deserving doesn't always get to what you deserve.
And I trust the Dodge organization and love current management
and how they got it done. Yeah, And I don't
think they got it done because of health concerns. They
got it done because Fernando deserved it and it was time.
(34:29):
You know, Jackie broke the barrier. Roberto Clementi changed the
culture of baseball and how Latinos were treated at the
big league level. Fernando changed Los Angeles and the Dodgers
and the fan base. And he changed it again by
having his number retired without being a Hall of Famer.
(34:51):
And he would tell you that there's it's not the
Hall of really really good or really really impactful. So
I get get Baseball's dance, but I am so glad
that the Dodgers did what they did, and he deserved
that day. To be remembered and to have it for
(35:12):
him and his family, and for Linda and the four
kids and the seven grandkids, and that day and for
all of Los Angeles to show their love. It was
just the right thing to do. And as far as
waiting or the time, I don't think there's any guilt.
I don't think there's any problem. I think it's always
(35:36):
the right time. The organization has a pulse, they understand,
and they do the right thing at the right time.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Harl Herscheiser, Ladies and gentlemen. Important to remember baseball icon
Fernando Valenzuela, but also a great human being and a
private person and a teammate and a grandfather and all
of the things that we all are, but also somebody
that changed baseball culture forever. Maybe a third statue coming
(36:07):
up with Jackie Robinson and Sandy Kofex there at Dodger Stadium,
hopefully Oral God bless you. Thank you for doing this today.
We won't ask you about the World Series or anything
like that until Friday, but thanks for doing it. Or
we know it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Hey, I love you, guys. And there are radio stations,
and there's radio programs, and then there's you guys, you're
on top.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You're the best.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
We love you too, brother, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Thank you all right?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
See yea or Herscheizer, ladies and gentlemen. Very nice of
him to do that, make himself available to us. I
was four in nineteen eighty one. Matt lived in Hammond, Indiana.
Good to have that perspective, absolutely, Tim Kats had two
hoop ear rings and to be dazzled diaper A sad day,
(37:03):
but also something to remember too, something that's important for
younger people that weren't around then, and wonder why Dodger
Stadium is the way it is and why the Latino
fan base is so important to baseball, in particular the Dodgers.
It's Fernando or As orl said Fernie, which was a
(37:25):
pretty good one in the eighties around here. We'll be
back David Massey, friend of Fernando's as well, and somebody
that knwhim well as a broadcaster is going to join
us in the next hour and maybe we'll get into
a little bit of what's going on between the Dodgers
and the Yankees. More to come on AMBI seventy LA Sports,
your home of the.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Dodgers, Big thank you to orl Herscheiser, Petro sand Money
Am five seventy LA Sports your home of the Dodgers,
your home of the World Series, or with a beautiful
tribute to his former teammate, longtime friend, broadcasting colleague Fernando Alezuela,
(38:06):
who passed away yesterday. David Vesta will join us in
the next hour, also a friend of Fernando's, been working
with him for a decade plus now. And we get
ready for the World Series. As we're on three to
six today, the Clippers will launch their twenty twenty four
campaign tonight right here at seven pm. Adam Owsen will
be along with pregame at six.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Very nice to hear from Oral and very nice of
him to do that. Like you said, Matt, you could
podcast everything on the iHeartRadio app. Oral was talking about
No mar Garcia Para and correct me if I'm wrong, Tim.
No mar Garcia Para went on Spectrum Sports at LA
(38:47):
that went live today to talk to Oral and No
mar gave a shout out to scam and Tim kats
Am I correct in saying, so.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, let's hear real quick. This is him with John
Hartungue and no more.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Obviously you have family roots in Mexico as well, and
I wanted to begin by asking, long before you got
a chance to meet Fernando Valens Whale and get to
know him on a personal level, what did Fernando mean
to you and your entire family?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
He meant a lot? You know, we all know today's
definitely a sad day. I was listening earlier today to
Steve Sachs and Tim Cakes on the radio.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, thank you, Mimar, that's all we're going to play.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
Oh, and there were callers calling in and having amazing
memories about Fernando. It was one particular.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Caller not for one second too, It's an emotional says,
he means a lot. He then named x Tim Gates
and you it pause.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
How you guys are going to react to that?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
All right, Let's okay, let's try that again. We'll do
it like you want. We'll react and then just go
back and play the rest.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Asking long before you got a chance to meet Fernando
Valleys Whale, get to know him on a personal level?
What did Fernando mean to you and your entire family?
Speaker 6 (40:11):
He meant a lot? You know, we all know, today's
definitely a sad day. I was listening earlier today to
Steve Sachs and Tim Kates on the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You guys appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Let's listen, guys, Let's not stop. Let's just keep listen.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Callers calling in and having amazing memories about Fernando. And
there was one particular caller, her name was Rose, who
shared her story and she was talking about going to
her grandparents and Fernando would be on and she was
she was such a young child, and how that meete
her such a fan become a Dodger fan, knowing what
(40:52):
he meant to hit her grandparents, especially her grandparents and
her family being from Mexico, Mexican, And the reason that's
just stood out to me because I have the same story.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, it's I appreciate. No more listening this morning, guys.
And he has a great interview with Sports in at
LA that you can check out on social media Twitter
and Instagram. But he's right, we took so many calls
this morning. People got emotional.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Do you have any recordings of those calls? I heard
you had like five people started to cry.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I wish I could, I wish I could bring a
plan back, but unfortunately we don't have the recordings right now.
But we took so many calls from people, and the
caller he was talking about in particular, Rose It. It
was heartbreaking because her parents were Dodger fans. The grandparents
didn't really know English and didn't really understand baseball, but
they saw Fernando out there on the mound, and all
(41:43):
of a sudden they became baseball fans, learned the sport,
learned to love the Dodgers, and they had that all
in common, from grandparents to parents to this little girl,
you know, under the age of ten at the time,
and she remembers it to this day and now she's
got her own family.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Scam was remarkable this morning because not only did you
hear from Ladasa, the people and everybody's different perspective and
everybody's little stories about how Fernando impacted them young or
not as young. And you also had Dusty Baker on yeah,
which just pretty good. And then you also had Mike Soosha,
(42:18):
who caught the no hitter right in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, June in nineteen ninety he caught that no hitter,
which ironically, Pedro Guerrero was the last out of the
game in the ninth inning, and Mike told the story
about how before the game he was in the video
room getting ready for that start, and earlier Dave Stewart
that day threw a no hitter and they were watching
the highlights of Oke Smoke did. And so Mike said
(42:41):
he was in the video room watching video getting prepared
as the catcher that night, and Fernando as he was
going out to the clubhouse out to the field, walked by,
peeked his head and said, I'm gonna throw one tonight,
and he threw a no hitter that night.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
How about that? Huh? And you know do we had
the Vin Scully call? Can we play that? Do we do?
You know? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
To no hitter?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
While you're it's going to take you a second here, Pace,
I got it all right, Let's go the strike.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
One pitch to Pedro Guerrero swung on and missed in
the crowd. Now with more emotion following every pitch, there
was a short chin paid roll, paid row as they
did in Boston in the eighty six World Series, to
try and taunt Strawberry, and now they're doing it to Guerrero,
(43:34):
hoping to distract him. Hoping to upset him, hoping perhaps
to make him try too hard. Fernando ready in the strike.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
Two pits is hit back to the box, dribbling the second,
Samuel on the.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Bed close the first double play.
Speaker 9 (43:49):
Fernando Velonzuela has pitched a no hitter at ten seventeen
in the evening of June the twenty ninth, nineteen.
Speaker 8 (44:01):
Maybe you have a sombrero, throw it to the.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Sky, Come on, beautiful And he laid out for four
minutes after that, beautiful freaking balls of Vin Scully, my.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
God and the balls. If I may of Don Martin
to take Dan Patrick off the air, to put scam
on despite the protests of his partner Dan Patrick, to
have those tributes, to have the Dodger conversation, to have Nomar,
(44:34):
to have Rose call in and talk about four generations.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Some are saying Don didn't go far enough, that he
should have taken Dan off the feet as well.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I'm a I'm digging through the Dan Patrick Show timeline.
What you missed quote? It was a cool moment. I
know Lebron's polarizing to people, not to me. I appreciate
what I'm seeing in the fact your son can play
with you. I thought that was a great moment.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Don't worry Matt Colin Cowherd and Gelino to the bone,
A guy who really knows the area, and what are
you He waited two hours of his three hour show
in Los Angeles from Los Angeles to mention that Fernando
Valezuela had passed away.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, you know, when when you can see the coliseum
from the four h five and you share that with
the people, you just operate a little bit differently here
in town, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean for a guy that sits there and preaches
to everybody what LA is like, oh yeah, I mean,
you'd think it'd be a golden opportunity for him to
school his national audience about what this guy means to
LA and some of the history of Los Angeles and
Chavez Ravine and so on and so forth. But none
of that. None of that. Just like hey, Lamar Jackson, MVP,
(45:50):
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Dan also had on aman Rossaint Brown. So oh well,
it's football in there, young Angelino. Maybe bring up you usc.
You see what he thought about what's going on over there.
But you know, so way to go, scam.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
I appreciate no more for listening. I appreciate the shout out.
That was very nice of him. We took a lot
of great calls, a lot of emotional calls.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It's a great show.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
It was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
If you missed it, you can actually podcast it on
the iHeartRadio app and we'll be back tomorrow at six
am with more.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Exactly right, well move your Scott's yes to me, amigo
and the winner to those World Series tickets.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Understand right eight o'clock, but not necessary that that person listen.
It's what I figured out.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, Kates can work on that. Get massage that Kates.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Massage or manipulate both tomato. Tomorrow we'll be back with
more great sports talker. Get a big thank you to
oil Hers Schezer for letting us talk to him a
little bit today on a rough day but also a
special day to remember the legacy of the great Fern.
End of Vallesa word number song Coming up next, David Vassille,
(47:00):
Stay with us.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
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