November 12, 2024 • 50 mins
The guys remember former USC and Rams head coach John Robinson. BFF Don MacLean on his son committing to West Virignia and some college hoops and NBA talk. Secret Textoso Roundup
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
I just gotta stop the show real quick, Ronnie. Sorry,
I just got a text from the nine to nine.
You know they keep it real out there. I got
a text and it says, figures just step to Fred
on the way out. Oh yeah, right, dude, what'd you do?
What you do?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What'd you do? What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Fred did this thing with Jonas at the end of
the show. What are your takeaways from today's show? So
at the end, is that like a thing trying to do?
Like what did we learn? Like Dan Patrick?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, so I said on the way out, Hold on, Fred,
are you gonna ask Paulie and Fritzy what they learned today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah? I'm the old guy, take it not?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What did he say? What he's like. No, I framed
it differently. It wasn't that way, So fraid it's the
same thing. It's a ah, yeah, what are you gonna
do next? Fred? It's not too ed mono, but it's
who's your brother. Wouldn't put it past them, No, no
other one, nor would I.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, where Fred was right, where Fred was wrong? Where
Fred was right.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Men who do not know how to get on and
off a horse would not be much use around a
cow outfit.
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Speaker 2 (02:25):
And because of that we will promote UCLA football through
an interview in an hour five o'clock hour. So on
our third hour, Carson Swesssinger, you seela former walk on,
but he's developed. I hate saying that because when you
say former walk on, you paint a picture of a
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guy who maybe isn't as talented or skilled as the
other guys on the team. And that is not the
case when it comes to Swesssinger. He is their highest
performing defense under all year long. And I remember listening
to a UCLA game, it might have been against Indiana,
maybe even at Penn State early in the year, and
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I was listening to the game of Josh Lewin and
Wayno on the sideline and our dear friend Matt Stevens
up in the booth, and Stevens kept being another play
Boys listener this but he's really showing him love. And
then you look at the numbers, and not only is
he leading UCLA and tackles, he's leading the Big ten
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in tackles. He's averaging ten plus tackles a game. And
he snatched two picks out.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Of the sky, got a force fumble a few no.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'd played with a guy named Chris Clayborne who was
doing similar stuff. He was out of Bakersfield, Matt And
the reason I mentioned it is he was like that big,
heavy guy making tackles between the tight ends, between the
tackles in the gaps. But also he was snatching picks
out of the airing him back to the house. And
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he left round and won the Buckets Award in nineteen
ninety eight. And Carson Swesssinger is a semi finalist for
the but Gus And why not When you're the best
performing linebacker in the Big Ten, you're gonna get that
kind of attention. So he is going to join us
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in the five o'clock hour, and our bff Don McClain
will join us this hour and we will talk to
him because this is our only full show of the week. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Tim Kates is not here yet. Tim Kates had postgame
Bruin talk last night. He did a game in which
the Bruins, he told me, I didn't handle it thirty points.
They beat the Boston University Terriers, but apparently some of
the same issues. There could be nothing merrier than to
own a terrier, reared their ugly head, miss shots not
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great from three, No one wearing any underwear, no one,
no commando everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Uh no.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
The Although mc cronin pointed out deflections, something kate's really
likes to harp on as well. Fifty six deflections in
this game. It was impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He loves to see a ball deflect.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't know if Kate's got back on his This
team's going to make the Final four. It's the best
mccrona team I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's a heavy Cold War influence with the deflections, because
after you'd make one of those, you scream, I deflect.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's exactly what they say.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Tim Kates told me I had a claw. I did
not listen. I didn't talk to him. I didn't I
didn't listen, but I did talk to him, so I
should say. And what he said to me was, if
there's a hill to die on, and that hill is
this UCLA team is going to make the Final four,
and he's he's gonna die on that hill. And he's
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got no water, no food, no sustenance. He's being blistered
by the sun like Elsorto's last standing for whom the
belt tolls. Sure he's gonna die on that hill. He's
that is the proclamation he made despite whatever deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'll die on Final four Hill.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I defect.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I will die on UCLA basketball Final four hill after
watching dominant victories over Ryder and be you And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Chris Claiborne's from Riverside. He'd be very upsetifyed so I said, Bakersfield,
that was tricking out.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is he coaching now?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Chris was?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He was coaching right now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He was a head coach at Calabasas or something like
that right for a little while. I don't know what
he's doing now. But a great guy and a great
because he won a butt Gus makes me think about
Carson Schwessinger, who were interviewing today, because that's kind of
what you have to do to win the butt gets.
It's not enough to get like four hundred tackles, even
though it should be. You got to start snatching balls
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out of the sky and taking him to the house.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They just announced the semi finalists on the fourth and
he is one of what looks to be like thirty
guys not too bad, two for about twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, can't we just show him some love? Matt
Our listeners, didn't you see how he measures it? I
didn't need to know what who else might be in
here that could present, you know, a bit of a challenge.
What about l Is l hafe On there from from Oregon.
Jeff Bossa, the Mike Backer from Salt Lake.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He is not. We got two guys from Bama.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No love for Bossa.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Sean Dolak from Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, he's he's a big not since Khalil Mack has
Buffalo had such a great defender.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's gonna be hard to get over. Aiden Fisher at Indiana,
first time the Hoosier has been ten and zero.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They're playing well.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh, you got Chris Paul Junior at Ole Miss You.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Know I heard he's really really difficult with the refs,
fights a lot with air.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We got an Ohio state sunny Styles Okay, Oklahoma, Danny
Stutsman Stutsman, Yes, Anthony Hill from Texas. Shae, Now this
is someone you should know, Shae Sue Suya Noah Noah, Wyoming, Yeah,
Wyoming guy. They're not having a good year, Suya Noah
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made it. God, they haven't made a tackler. I mean
New Mexico went for fifty points on him with two
two hundred yard rushers across him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
On really Suey and Noah liked it, but geez.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Deyontay lost in Jehat Campbell from Bama.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You can put a g hot on me.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh god, Barrett Carter from Clemson. You don't like taking
calls from listeners that say they don't like the direction
of the Clemson Yeah, that's not the case. Jealan Walker, Georgia,
Jay Higgins Iowa, Chandler Martin Memphis. That's your semi finalist list?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right? Well, I know Suya, Noah and maybe a
couple of Stutsman fifteen.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It has been narrowed down to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Old teammate Chris Claiborne. According to our boss, Brian Blackmore
black Moore Blackmore is always right. Claiborne coaches in the
UFL now for the Saint Louis Blackhawks. Ah okay, so,
and because we are mentioning my old connections, it's kind
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of on the mind. I've been on a bunch of
text chains with a lot of ex teammates, and I
went on the Big ten Network today with my eyes
all puffy at seven point thirty in the morning with
a Travis Matthew Polo on too and Tim Conway Junior
put me on last night under the guys of talking
about my old coach who passed away at eighty nine yesterday,
(09:43):
John Robinson, and we did talk about John Robinson for
maybe about Well that's nice if youann to help out
tim two and a half minutes, and then we went
on to do five more segments of KFI radio.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, you had the benefit. We were on two to four.
He's on fourth seve so the window is there. We
don't often get to cross paths with Conway because we're
on at the same time, right, So he took full advantage,
so you got to do two to four.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, we got done. We got done yesterday. So I
do what I always do. I looked around the house
and saw that no one was there. I watched a
little bit of Arizona tape and I was like, God,
Arizona's really struggling. I got them on Friday night and
I poured myself a drink at four. Well, I mean,
what else am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Just asking I'm trying to get the timeline right, So
you pour the drink. Yeahs around that time, okay, and
then Conway my.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Drink and then I started getting text and Coach Robinson
passed and that was not as much of a surprise
to those of us that had played for him, because
we're on text chains and we played his son. Dave
Robinson was our tight end coach, and Dave has been
communicating with various teammates and telling us that Coach wasn't
doing well. He lives out in Louisiana, so Dave went
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out there to be with him, and so I knew
about that. So I'd heard that Coach had passed, and
I finished one drink and I was like, you know,
why not, nobody's still. No one's here, you know there is.
I'm looking around.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I don't see people, but I do see whiskey left
in this bottle.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right, the big industrial strength one I bought on election night.
And I was lying, okay, uh, you know, my my
son is with my sister, my daughter's with my wife.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
My wife, I'm here alone with whiskey.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I've had one one good turn, deserves another.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So I'm like two SIPs into my second whiskey and
I get the Sharon Bellio bat signal and I just
wrote back now, question mark. And then an hour and
twenty minutes later I got back to my whiskey with
the ice all melted now and the circus had fallen
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down on his knee.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So the answer was yes, now, yeah, you go on
the air. I went on there and never got off.
You talked about John Robinson. No, No, that does not
seem like it would fit into Tim Conway Junior show,
because I could sure. I told a couple of stories.
You know, did you do the voice?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Not as much. I gave him a little of the
voice this morning. Because they said you were a running back.
But John Robinson was used to coaching Eric Dickerson and
Charles White and Ricky Bell, and you know you were
a running back for John Robinson. What did he think
of you? What did he say about you? And I
had to say, he said, you're not cut like like
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our other guards.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Did they like that?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It seemed like it. They seemed happy. You know. The
Big ten Network.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Was the running back from Illinois on that show. No,
I love that guy too, he's great.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, And it wasn't the Slope Nos guy either, the
Big ten Networks Slope Nose. It was. It was a
guy named Hall, a white guy. There was just an
interview with him.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But he did a great job. And last night, when
we found out Coach passed, my father sent me a
bunch of photographs, a bunch of photographs. He was hitting
me too, Yeah, from the restaurant back in the day
when we were kids, and then of course he'd been
there since then. And really what's interesting is my wife's father,
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my wife stepfather, his dad was like a long time
and my wife's stepfather's name is Greg Cole, and his dad,
al Cole was like the original USC John McKay Bagman.
Oh speak, Well, now you know it's whatever, it's not.
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It's not frowned upon, but it was frowned upon back then.
But al Cole was very connected with USC and Greg
and Lynn Cole, my in laws were very close with
Coach Robinson and his third wife, the one that lived
in Louisiana. So I'd been in contact with him through
my in laws kind of back and forth, because they
actually spent a lot of time with him. And he
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was always a joyful guy and he was always really
lucid and the people he touched throughout his career. I mean,
you think about USC in those days when he coached,
like he called the place for all those Pat Hayden teams.
He was the offensive coordinator and then he became the
head coach, and Dave Wanstad was on those staffs, Joe
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Gibbs was on those staffs. North Turner was on those staffs.
And he was the best friend of John Madden from childhood,
and of course they were.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Always I think he worked what a year with Madden, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One year as the running back coach, and then came
back to be the head coach at USC. He was
actually the athletic director for three years along with the
head coach at UNLV in the early two thousands, and
I remember that if it wasn't for what Barry otom
is doing at U and LV right now, which is spectacular.
UNLV's never been this good, then John Robinson would be
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their best coach ever other than Harvey Hyde, who had
Randall Cunningham as a punter quarterback. So a lot of
great memories because there's so much football in there, and
so much local football and really great innovations. We'll get
into it a little later on the show, but great
innovations John Robinson was part of in the run game.
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We very much take take it for granted now when
we see an offense go up to the line of
scrimmage and we see a tight end move or a
tight end back into an H back position and wave
the receiver up to the line of scrimmage to make
it even. And just the shifting of those guys, the
moving of the fullback over from the I formation into
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what you'd call the King formation, you know, to the
strength or or moving him weak to where it's a
little bit of an offset in the backfield. All that
stuff came from j Rob, Joe Gibbs and those guys
creating that kind of run game gap scheme which Don
Coriel started, but they really they really flourished with it.
(16:02):
Student body right, is zone running, you know, all those
different things they did really well. Isolation running and man,
we would do forty forty five play run drills and
then run teach where we would just run the plays
and air and Jay Rob would scream at us the
whole time, you know. So it was it was a
great education. I was very grateful to be able to
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play for him because you're connected to so many things
throughout the world of football, throughout the history of football,
from my father's era all the way through with John
McKay and so on the staff on your dad, No,
but my dad played for John McKay and John McKay
and Robinson both came from Oregon. But the crossover is amazing.
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Like all those guys, a lot of those guys, Hudson,
how Dave Levy, just famous old football coaches, Marv goo
who's always talked about g ou X the basque guy.
They all not only coached at USC, but when John
Robinson took the Rams job, many of them went to
the La Rams. And the Rams were so good. People
(17:10):
don't remember because they only on the West coast. If
you're watching NFL football in those days, they just couldn't
get over the Niners humped. They were right there the.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Year the Bears in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, lost that one too. They could not get over
the hump in the NFC Championship game. But Jim Everett,
our friend, Henry Ellard, Flipper Anderson, Charles White, Greg Bell,
Eric Dickerson. Of course, all of those people, uh go
down in the annals of great LA football people. And
John Robinson was that for sure. And the best thing
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about Robinson I think the most heartwarming thing about the
end of his career was that when ed Ogeron now
Ed didn't coach with John Robinson at USC. John Robinson
was fired in ninety seven and Ed o'j n was
hired in ninety eight by Paul Hackett and then kept
on the Pete Carroll staff and at Ojeron for whatever reason,
(18:11):
reverence or maybe the connection with the wife because she
was from Louisiana, he hired John Robinson and a couple
other guys Kenichiu Daisy who I played with at USC,
and he hired them at LSU as coaching guys or consultants,
and they treated John with absolute reverence in the end
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of his life, and they had such a great thing there.
They won that champions one of the great seasons, one
of the great seasons in the history of college football
individual seasons. Of course, it didn't end great, but nothing
ever does in football. Asked John Robinson, Mike Garrett fired
him on an answering machine, and he had to do
his press conference at the Sheraton different down figure out
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because they wouln't let him back on campus. Done that.
To me, it was just respire. I remember coming home
from Mexico and I was like, what happened. They fired
j Row on an answer machine. Fool.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So they say he was avoiding the call.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes he was, you know, it's easier to avoid.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It was like, hey, I'm not by the phone.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What are you gonna do? But yeah, there was. It
was sad to hear. But coach was eighty nine and
he was really really a special guy to play for
and his connection with everybody. How Marcus Allen would come
and yell at you and tell you how much you sucked. Sure,
because John Robinson was your coach. Pretty great, and then
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he would come do the same because Paul Hackett, you know,
the chiefs and right, Ronnie Lott used to come and
tell us how much we sucked all the time. That
was really fun to hear from Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, it's an authority telling you how much you suck.
At least and Rod.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, Brad buddy again. They all used to show up
and tell us we sucked. Claim Matthews, it was great.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well what was your record?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wonderful time to be alive. We weren't that bad, Okay,
better than these guys. They're four and five, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Only like five plays away from being nine to zero.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Anybody that runs a zipzapp motion or a wham block.
They have John Robinson the thing. We'll be back talk
to Don. Speaking of PAC twelve royalty Pack ten, I
guess now that they're in the Big ten, we can
say Pack ten royalty. Well, no, because the PAC twelve
(20:28):
still exists the label.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's fair point. With two teams, there are two teams,
you are like six, Well not right now, in this moment.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Right now, in this moment, Washington State's got one loss,
all right, okay? And I got their game on Saturday night,
taking the field against New Mexico. You think they can win.
New Mexico's improving Bronco menden Hall is not messing around, Matt.
What's Bob Davey doing. He was fired two coaches ago,
got a raw deal. What's he doing right now? Probably
Morning Faust? Yeah, how about that? Foulest and Jerry Faust
(21:06):
and Jay rob the same day. Faust not looked upon
us fondly, uh from the folks from Notre Dame, as
Jay Robbie is for the folks at USC. That's all cyclical.
You're the leader of this team and you're gonna praay
the rosary with me. We'll be right back with Doc.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Guy needs to get back to high school football. This
is a joke, Fuzzy Faust, let's show some money. AM
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All right, So there's that Chargers Bengals Sunday.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, we are efforting Don McClain.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Then burn a burning, burn a birding.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And it's a big day in the McClain family. Huge
name because Trent McClane has committed to the University of
West Virginia. Just a verbal so it's still change if
he signs. I mean, but yeah, he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
He bounce some things off you someone who's been a
more disgusting.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, they took a trip there. Don couldn't go because
he's calling games, but they as a family took a
brook and Trent went to take a look at it
to do a trip, and they took all the pictures
with the Instagram thing that goes around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, live Kelly dancing and doing the bat dance next to.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Him, Yeah, and walked around. Yeah, Brian Kelly did the
thing with his eyes, you know, the Tiffany dance, and
he did all that. And I believe they stayed at
the Marriotte right by the Monongahela the river. I asked
for a picture of the river, did not did it,
did not receive it. So it's a big day. Get
a picture of anything? Did you get a Hey, I
(23:49):
ran into your cousin. Well, since I am kind of
like from Morgan, like from there. Yeah, I've spent many
many nights there in Morgantown. No, I didn't hear anything,
and today is the first, is the first that I
heard of Don McClain at all having the commitment go
through for Trent.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, Kate's that one caught me off guard a little bit.
Sent us the instagram through Trent's Instagram that he is
in fact committed.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So it is a big day for the mcclan take.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Me Home Country Roads says it right there on the
photo right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And then I what I did was added it to
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used the Slayer even deeper, I use the Lana del
Rey Beautiful because that's how cool I am exactly. So,
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would you like to do some text?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Man? Probably? I think we're efforting Don. Hopefully he'll join
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So everything's fine. Sorry to hear about your coach. I
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It is a mountaineer to his soul. Put him in
the buckskin, give him the deer jerky in his pocket,
hand him a musket, grow a beard and throw a
Coonskin cap on his six foot nine frame.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You better wear that on letter of intense signing days.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh, come on Blue Ridge Mountains, Shennon Indo a River.
The one and only Don McLain, a proud father and
a great man and the greatest basketball player ever scoring
wise in the history of the Pac twelve. You see
him nowadays on the Big Ten Network on fandual sports
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is the one and only Don McLean on the Petro
Somebody show AMPI, somebody La Sports your home of the Dodgers. Hi, Don,
how are you.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It would be kind of cool to throw on that
get up and fire off that musket at football game? Yeah,
maybe I should ask him if I could do it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Shoot a bear. One of those guys did that and
there was a big uproar.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We're rescinding the commitment. However, we will resubmit it if
in fact you can meet this one particular request.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You know, Don, you have great perspective on this stuff,
and you've done a great job of kind of walking
the line. I mean, you've had MVP high school level
suns for years here. But Trent is the guy who's
getting big time power for offers and all of that.
And we've been talking to you throughout this time, and
(27:44):
of course we're very happy. But how how different is it?
I mean, you were a huge recruit out of seem
Valley High back in the day. What's the process been
like in your in your perspective today and how much
different is it from back when you coveted by diamond
Jim Herrick.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, you know what, Pete, it's a great question because
I've learned so much because it is so different. You know,
I was a top ten kid, so it was easy.
I had pretty much every high major and I had
to sort through that and narrow it down. But it's
different now, and that's what I had to learn because
of the portal. It has changed high school recruiting. Now,
if you're a top twenty five, top four kid, it's
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kind of still the same as it's always been. But
if you're not, then it's much different. They just don't
value freshmen or incoming freshmen and high school players as
much as they used to because everyone's trying to get old.
How do you get old? You get old in the portal.
And so that springtime where if you aren't sure, or
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you were a late bloomer like Trent is in coming
on here, you know, late you would wait till the spring.
You can't wait till the spring anymore, and if you do,
you're really rolling the dice because now all these schools
are looking in the portal for what they need to
get older. And so because Trent was late, he probably
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didn't have as many options as I guess we thought
he would have, but he had good options, like really
good options. So now it becomes fit to me. And
that's where I think it hasn't changed where because of
what I do, Because I'm still involved in the game.
Because I see all these colleges practice and shoot rounds
and everything. I understand what fit means. And I think
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a lot of kids just go to their best offer,
and looking at it from afar, you'd say, well, Trent
just went to his best offer. Well, there's a reason
why West Virginia, of all places, was really recruiting him.
They were on him the hardest the last two months
out of anybody, and it's because they understood Trents fit
for them, and I and we understood Trents fit for them.
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And so that's why people are texting me. I've gotten
more text today and I think I've ever gotten in
one day, like why West Virginia. Well, because of the
fit and the other thing I've learned, and I knew
this and you guys probably know this as well. Basket,
if you're a Division one athlete or Division one basketball player,
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your life is eighty percent basketball. So the other twenty
percent is the campus, the facilities, the people, whatever. But
if that eighty percent isn't right, it doesn't matter what
that other twenty percent is. You could be anywhere. And
so getting that fit right and giving yourself a chance
to go to a place where a system fits you,
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to give yourself a chance to play and play a
lot at some point was the reason why he's going
from Westlake Village, California, all the way to Morgantown, West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Don not to belabor it, but just curious you mentioned
and I bring it up because Mick basically told us
as much. He's like, look, we want to bring freshmen in,
but it's just not you know, sort of what's going
on in college basketball? You want and you're a UCLA,
So how like how many schools could he have basically
(31:06):
walked on anywhere like any school in the nation, Like, hey,
we would love to have you as a walk on,
but I got to use these scollies for the portal.
Is that kind of what this has turned into a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, it depends on It's more of a big picture thing, Matt, Like,
it's in general like not everyone's in the portal like crazy,
but the pool is smaller now for high school players
because of the portal. And so like West Virginia, this guy,
Darren Devriez, as a first year head coach, was at
Drake for five years, but was an assistant at Creighton
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for a long time, I think fifteen or sixteen years,
and so in his first year he told us I
have to go on the portal to have a roster
because a lot of guys left because the new coach
was coming in. But what he wants to do is
value high school players a little bit more. Bring three
or four high school guys in. I think I said
this last week, try and retain five or six guys
(31:58):
in the program, and then one or two portal guys
to fit to bring in any need that you have
at a position. And so it's just the bigger picture
part is a lot of schools, let's say they have
five guys returning well, instead of going and getting three
high school guys, they just go get seven portal guys
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and get old. So that's kind of the difference in
terms of you're not going to walk on when you're
good enough to get a scholarship. So that's why it
was interesting to watch when he got to the Sokal Academy,
the prep school, there's college coaches there every day of practice,
the tournaments they play, and there's coaches there every tournament,
and he was finally valued for what he does really
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well in the system. Into how West Virginia plays is
that they value a four guy that they can make
decisions and shoot, and that's what Trent does. He's not
a great defender, at least not yet, but he could
really shoot. He's got a high Q, so he can
make good decisions with the ball, and so it looks
like if he can get stronger and get some experience,
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then it should be a good fit sooner or later
for him at West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, you go where you could play the next Kyle
Kover and fast, the next Jerry West. The trade down
McClain a hero to the people, and we're always happy
to have him. You see, La hoops. You had him
last night against the Terriers and they won decisively, but
a setback against New Mexico. As Mick Cronin kind of
tries to figure out what sort of team he has
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every year, I guess it's a new identity flush for everybody.
But more so than ever, what do you make of them?
And Tim Kates says that they're going to be in
the final four. He says he's going to die on
that hill even if there's no sustenance your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, in this day and age, as you guys know,
everybody panics and jumps the gun after one loss, and
you know they just you know, they ran into the
Mexico team that was hungry, hungrier than they were. And look,
when you have this many portal guys that the ucilly
has had, which they'd never had, but high level players
that have had a lot of experience and a lot
of success at other schools coming in, I think they
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were feeling pretty good about themselves that they could waltz
into that place in Henderson, Nevada and just beating New
Mexico and turns out they couldn't, and last night they
got back on track. Look, mixed teams have to guard,
they have to play hard, they have to guard, and
they can't turn it over. They had twenty one turnovers
against New Mexico. And so I think this team offensively
(34:27):
will continue to grow the more they get to know
each other, the more you know, I think the coaching
staff gets to know these guys and put them in
places where they can succeed offensively. But at the end
of the day, it has to look defensively how it
looked last night, high energy, high intensity, tension to detail
and just overwhelming people with their ball pressure and you know,
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getting turnovers and you know, going the other way on offense.
So I don't think it's anything to read into, at
least for me, that New Mexico game. But I I
do think they're going to continue to get better and
I think they're going to contend in the Big Ten.
I'm not going to go as far to say they're
going to be in the Final four.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Oh you don't want it a part of indisticates on
the Final four UCLA Hill.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
No, I don't, at least not yet. Maybe at some point,
but I do think they're going to contend in the
Big Ten, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
What I know, you know, it's kind of the way
it's been for a while. Ben Holland certainly did it,
But like, what do you get don And I don't
mean this as a shot, I'm just kind of asking, like,
what do you want to see when you're you know,
prior to conference play, schedule is Lehigh and Idaho State
and Tall State Fullerton some people like to call it
(35:40):
Fullerton State and Southern Utah. Like what what do you
want to take away from those games?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Well, most coaches schedule to their roster. By that, I mean,
you got all these new guys, Man, you can't be
taken on at least early because in December, Matt, they
have Arizona Coze in North Carolina, So like this is
the warm up. November is the warm up for them,
and I'd get it. I think it was smart because
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of all these new pieces and like I said, offensively,
they still got room to gel and come together. So
hopefully by the end of November they've done that and
now they're ready for those three because those are monster games.
In December, all three of those teams are ranked in
the top ten.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
The one and only Don McClain, a hero of the people,
always ranked in our top ten on the Petros and
Money Show. We will talk some NBA basketball at this point, Don,
where it can be a cup. Oh, are you excited
about the like? Remember last night the Cup? Remember last year, Don,
where Matt and I were very skeptical, skeptical about the
(36:43):
Cup and you came back and you told us how
stupid we were. You hit us hard like Ronnie over
the trees, the Columbine trees. What are your feelings here
in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five about that
NBA Cup the Lakers hung the banner?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, the same I feel about it last year. But
I think we've learned more in the sense that if
you win the NBA Cup, it doesn't matter for long
term success, right, That's what we learned last year. I
still think it's a great idea. I think it's a
way to chop up the regular season and not make
it seem so long. I think it draws interest to
the NBA before Christmas, which usually there's not, and so
(37:23):
I still like it. But I just think any fan
base that's hanging their hats on winning the Cup and
that translating into an NBA championship was proven wrong last
year for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Thoughts on on the G League the South Bay Lakers
selling out Now, it's only seven hundred seats, but the
excitement around the G League and Bronnie James playing a
handful of minutes and two dollars secondary market tickets there.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm not surprised, Matt. I told you guys. I
saw it when Trent played with Bryce James, not Brownie James,
Bryce James two years ago, and the amount of attention
on that team because of Bryce and Lebron and all that.
I couldn't believe it. And I know it, like, I
know how big of a guy Lebron is and one
of the greatest of all time and all that, but
(38:14):
I could not believe the amount of attention for high
school games. And this was two years ago for Bryce James.
So Bronnie James more of a name and more of
a player than Bryce. I'm not surprised at all. I'm
surprised they're not moving the games to a bigger.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Venue, right, Oh, serious pross position he wants.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
The seriously yeah, like, and I think that I'm not
saying they'd sell a bigger venue out, but they would
certainly get a lot more people in there. I mean,
it's you know, look, Bronnie's a big deal. I feel
bad for the kid because of all the attention he
gets and the expectation on him. And we'll see what
(38:54):
kind of player he turns out to be. But I'm
hoping that he can put all this stuff aside and
just get to work in the G League and really
work on what he needs to work on so that
one day he can eventually become an NBA player. But yeah,
I'm not surprised by that for one second.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I know it's early, way early, don I mean ten
games eleven? Some teams are twelve in. Do you take
anything away from the Lakers and Clippers sitting in the
playing round as it stands right now and the teams
that are ahead of them thunder Suns, Warriors seemed to
be playing really good basketball right now? Yeah, have you
(39:31):
seen enough?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I think the hard part in evaluating the Clippers is
Kawhi hasn't played yet and we don't know when he's
going to play. I think you can start evaluating the
Clippers once Kawhi gets a rip of games in there,
and he's back and playing. But you got to give
ty loon a staff credit that they're in Jeff van
Gundy for sure, that they're you know, above five hundred
without Kawhi and they realize that they're going to have
(39:57):
to play defense every night and guard people. I think
that record's a little better than people probably expected without
Kawhi and what they lost in the offseason. And I
think the Lakers, you know, I think JJ Reddick hasn't
had enough time, I think, and I think I've always
told you guys, I start, like fans, I start really
evaluating where teams are at, you know, mid December ish,
(40:19):
right before Christmas. You kind of have enough games then.
But I think you can take away from some of
the teams that are doing, like Cleveland is going to
be a factor. In the East, I think it's safe
to say that nobody goes twelve to zero anymore, and
they are so they're obviously really good, and Kenny Atkinson
knows what he's doing. And the teams in the West,
(40:40):
I think we assume that we assume the thunder would
be good. We'll see how they do without home Grin
for a while. But yeah, I think I think in
mid December is when we can start really making some
some real evaluations on teams that have things that are
you know, like JJ being a new coach, Kawhi not
playing yet.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
The important things, the great Don McLean, big congratulations on
the mountaineers, keep climbing. Morgantown Motown, West Virginia so close
and it's got its own Primanny Brothers with a big
Jerry West painting on the wall. You just can't beat it.
Beautiful Don, congrats and what a wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I appreciate it, guys, and you guys giving Trent the
love you've given them over the last couple of years.
And I don't know this for sure, but next year
I may go Pee and Matt to Morgantown and may
never come back.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You might not. You know, he's opening an axe drying place.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And you put on those leathers, sots.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
A nice to buy me a cabin on the I'm
gonna buy me a cabin on the Shenan Dona and
do and I'll sit on my porch all day looking
at the river, and all the.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Day is McLean home. I don't know, do you see
any smoke coming out of his chimney.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Fly fishing, guys, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Fly.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Those are a long pair of fly fishing pants. Don
you're the best man. Congrats, it's a wonderful thing to
see that happen. And all the success to Trent and
all the McLean's. As always, we'll talk to you soon next.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Week, our guys. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Hear that door, open that door. I'm out of here.
Car's still running getting inside. Start whittling, Start working on
that beard, yeah, work on a beard. Start whittling now.
I remember the mountaineers rocking in a nice rocking chair.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
The mountaineer went up to the uh is she shot him,
like one of the mountaineers used the actual musket, right,
put real ammo in it and mild a bear, and
he was he's a hunter, obviously, you know, just go.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Killing dam You think it's a prerequisite if you're going
to be that rascot.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, And and everybody got all mad. And then the
West Virginia like president was like, this is a young
man who grew up in these heels sting and.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Killing, and it's legal to hunt bears. It's bear hunting season.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
He was kneeling by it at the outfit like yeah,
Bob Huggins and Dana Holgerson looking.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
On Bob in his sweatsuit on that stool.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Can you see Trent just walking to class and looking
into a window of a bar and Bob Huggins sitting
at the bar and goes give them the little nod,
a little tip of that hat. He huggy. Okay, thanks everybody,
We'll be right back with some reaction. We got a
top story of the day word number song Carson sweesssinger
from UCLA slice John Hi stay with us on this
(43:43):
two ed mono.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Tuesday, I went a little along with Don McLean, but
a lot to celebrate again, A huge hearty congratulations to
Trent McClain committing day verbally to West Virginia. He will
be a mountaineer laying in a big twelve. Good luck
(44:08):
to him, good luck to the McLean family. Breaking down
NBA and NCAAA basketball as he always does. None of that.
Tonight Friday, we will have amateur ranks football though UCLA
up at Washington kickoff at six on a eleven fifty
and Carson Swassenger is going to join us round five
like twenty five thirty Ish aft his award finalist semi
(44:31):
semi one of fifteen.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
But I think this interview is gonna put him over
the top.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Well, he's got to get a profile, a national profile.
We know how many BUCKUS Award voters listen to our.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's still stuck with the former walk on number of
forty nine, so we're gonna have to address that with him.
I mean, this guy is a semi finalist.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
We'll still make him self conscious about his number every
time he puts his jersey on. Now he's looking in
the mirror and he's like, am I a failure? I
remember forty nine?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
It's true though, Like even I I was a I
sort of walked on it se just because I was
in a turmoil of a transfer. But I didn't end
up with a bad number. But what if they slapped
me with like forty six or something. As a running
back took Plague. I love Doug Plague, but Matt, I mean,
(45:18):
come on, it's already hard enough to be a white,
stilted running back.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You show up wearing number forty six. You're not gonna
get any respect from the black guys. And that's the
only reason I played.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
You feel as though you ended up hitting that respect
because of thirty five.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, thirty five was later. You know, my brother wore
the number thirty. I never wanted to wear the number
thirty five. That was my brother's number. But when my
brother's career ended, he asked me to wear thirty five,
so I ended up having to wear thirty five. A
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Okay, now we're talking right, Come on in, Matt fourte.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Right right, and it's Smith Smith Cats. Now let's say
I bawled out in twenty two, you know, and my brother,
you know, those legs didn't fall off, right, might have
gone to number two, might have gone to number two
like Taylor Mays. Just like that. I have a little
lighter on my feet, which is not saying much. I
got a couple of textosa to stay here.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Man, brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
We make it easy.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Think it was Jatavis Brown, the Charger linebacker that had
a really weird linebacker and it was like a forty
nine you're stuck.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, I mean, forty nine is not the worst linebacker
number the world. But if you're a bucket semifinalist you're look,
we're forty nine. It's like, no, you were, That's that's
a walk on number. You gotta do better. We used
to have a walk on guy and he wasn't bad,
but he wore the number forty seven, very walk on me.
And I remember like a couple like a year or
(46:46):
so in like he started getting playing on special teams
and traveling. I mean, you know, if a guy serviceable,
we're gonna use them. And I remember saying to him like, hey, man,
I saw you out there on a kickoff return. That's great,
you know, great to see out there playing. He goes,
forget this special team's I want to get some burned backer.
So he started to say that for the rest of
(47:06):
my career, like like, hey, are you still on the
kick off? To you, it'll be like, man, forget that
special team'ses. I'm looking to get some burned packer.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Forty well, forty seven, especially as a launch snapper number
that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
It's ugly.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Get that fixed.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
This says true fact a mountaineer gets all the beaver
a yeah, this says did Don McClain's son go to
West Virginia Out of deference to Ronnie's song of the
day incident. No, that was about Colorado. That's about that's understandable.
But it was about Rocky Mountain. You know, John Denver
Country Road, Rocky Mountain High the Column Mines or whatever
(47:47):
it was. Colorado has two state songs and it really
upset Ronnie when Don McClain asked him what the other
one was. Nick de Zubner forty eight, That's what it was.
Hell of a special teams guy. Now he may have
wanted to get some Burnett backer, but a special team's ace, man.
I see out there doing pretty well the special teams.
If that special teams s I want to get some
(48:10):
burnt Okay, well, good luck. I guess you know. You
know our starting linebackers today up for the buckets, right.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You know that I would have answered that to any
compliment that was given him from then on forever. Yeah,
that was Listen, you're a heck of a vicar here
and the get.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That Vickers gets some burned linebacker. You were really a
great graphic designer. I mean you two great work. Half
his graphic design Uh this says I heard they covered
the basketball arena with Bob Hoggins old shirt instead of
(48:49):
putting it in a display case.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
He got to be a very large man and needed
a special stool on which to rest his belly. I'm
see what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna sit on
this seat here and then i'mnna put my belly right here.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
A big guy. Okay, there's a lot of bigger, big
people that play back. In a Godzilla versus King Kong
battle over a city in Asia, between Brett b Lama
and Bob Muggins, it looks like Bilama has thrown a
giant bottle of Crown Royal and Bob Buggets had. Bob
(49:26):
Muggins is countered by swinging a keg of beer and Bilama.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Go two prodigious bellies and two guys that were incredibly
thin for a good portion of their careers.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean yeah, I might have been
a white tailback, but I'm coming out of the I'm
coming through the door in the practice field in twenty two.
You're not like, Oh, who's that loser. You're like, oh,
who's that guy? You know, my boy b Oaks who
came from DC coming through the hole in the door
in the gate where number forty eight he got something
(50:02):
to prove Special Team's ace.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I'm're gonna get some Burnett backer, all right. Gotta get
you your word, your number, your song. Top story as
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I just gotta stop the show real quick, Ronnie. Sorry,
I just got a text from the nine to nine.
You know they keep it real out there. I got
a text and it says, figures just step to Fred
on the way out. Oh yeah, right, dude, what'd you do?
What you do?
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What'd you do? What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Fred did this thing with Jonas at the end of
the show. What are your takeaways from today's show? So
at the end, is that like a thing trying to do?
Like what did we learn? Like Dan Patrick?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, so I said on the way out, Hold on, Fred,
are you gonna ask Paulie and Fritzy what they learned today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah? I'm the old guy, take it not?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What did he say? What he's like. No, I framed
it differently. It wasn't that way, So fraid it's the
same thing. It's a ah, yeah, what are you gonna
do next? Fred? It's not too ed mono, but it's
who's your brother. Wouldn't put it past them, No, no
other one, nor would I.
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Okay, where Fred was right, where Fred was wrong? Where
Fred was right.
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Speaker 2 (02:25):
And because of that we will promote UCLA football through
an interview in an hour five o'clock hour. So on
our third hour, Carson Swesssinger, you seela former walk on,
but he's developed. I hate saying that because when you
say former walk on, you paint a picture of a
(02:49):
guy who maybe isn't as talented or skilled as the
other guys on the team. And that is not the
case when it comes to Swesssinger. He is their highest
performing defense under all year long. And I remember listening
to a UCLA game, it might have been against Indiana,
maybe even at Penn State early in the year, and
(03:10):
I was listening to the game of Josh Lewin and
Wayno on the sideline and our dear friend Matt Stevens
up in the booth, and Stevens kept being another play
Boys listener this but he's really showing him love. And
then you look at the numbers, and not only is
he leading UCLA and tackles, he's leading the Big ten
(03:32):
in tackles. He's averaging ten plus tackles a game. And
he snatched two picks out.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Of the sky, got a force fumble a few no.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'd played with a guy named Chris Clayborne who was
doing similar stuff. He was out of Bakersfield, Matt And
the reason I mentioned it is he was like that big,
heavy guy making tackles between the tight ends, between the
tackles in the gaps. But also he was snatching picks
out of the airing him back to the house. And
(04:01):
he left round and won the Buckets Award in nineteen
ninety eight. And Carson Swesssinger is a semi finalist for
the but Gus And why not When you're the best
performing linebacker in the Big Ten, you're gonna get that
kind of attention. So he is going to join us
(04:22):
in the five o'clock hour, and our bff Don McClain
will join us this hour and we will talk to
him because this is our only full show of the week. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Tim Kates is not here yet. Tim Kates had postgame
Bruin talk last night. He did a game in which
the Bruins, he told me, I didn't handle it thirty points.
They beat the Boston University Terriers, but apparently some of
the same issues. There could be nothing merrier than to
own a terrier, reared their ugly head, miss shots not
(04:56):
great from three, No one wearing any underwear, no one,
no commando everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Uh no.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
The Although mc cronin pointed out deflections, something kate's really
likes to harp on as well. Fifty six deflections in
this game. It was impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He loves to see a ball deflect.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't know if Kate's got back on his This
team's going to make the Final four. It's the best
mccrona team I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's a heavy Cold War influence with the deflections, because
after you'd make one of those, you scream, I deflect.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's exactly what they say.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Tim Kates told me I had a claw. I did
not listen. I didn't talk to him. I didn't I
didn't listen, but I did talk to him, so I
should say. And what he said to me was, if
there's a hill to die on, and that hill is
this UCLA team is going to make the Final four,
and he's he's gonna die on that hill. And he's
(05:53):
got no water, no food, no sustenance. He's being blistered
by the sun like Elsorto's last standing for whom the
belt tolls. Sure he's gonna die on that hill. He's
that is the proclamation he made despite whatever deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'll die on Final four Hill.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I defect.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I will die on UCLA basketball Final four hill after
watching dominant victories over Ryder and be you And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Chris Claiborne's from Riverside. He'd be very upsetifyed so I said, Bakersfield,
that was tricking out.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is he coaching now?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Chris was?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He was coaching right now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He was a head coach at Calabasas or something like
that right for a little while. I don't know what
he's doing now. But a great guy and a great
because he won a butt Gus makes me think about
Carson Schwessinger, who were interviewing today, because that's kind of
what you have to do to win the butt gets.
It's not enough to get like four hundred tackles, even
though it should be. You got to start snatching balls
(06:57):
out of the sky and taking him to the house.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They just announced the semi finalists on the fourth and
he is one of what looks to be like thirty
guys not too bad, two for about twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, can't we just show him some love? Matt
Our listeners, didn't you see how he measures it? I
didn't need to know what who else might be in
here that could present, you know, a bit of a challenge.
What about l Is l hafe On there from from Oregon.
Jeff Bossa, the Mike Backer from Salt Lake.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He is not. We got two guys from Bama.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No love for Bossa.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Sean Dolak from Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, he's he's a big not since Khalil Mack has
Buffalo had such a great defender.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's gonna be hard to get over. Aiden Fisher at Indiana,
first time the Hoosier has been ten and zero.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They're playing well.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh, you got Chris Paul Junior at Ole Miss You.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Know I heard he's really really difficult with the refs,
fights a lot with air.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We got an Ohio state sunny Styles Okay, Oklahoma, Danny
Stutsman Stutsman, Yes, Anthony Hill from Texas. Shae, Now this
is someone you should know, Shae Sue Suya Noah Noah, Wyoming, Yeah,
Wyoming guy. They're not having a good year, Suya Noah
(08:22):
made it. God, they haven't made a tackler. I mean
New Mexico went for fifty points on him with two
two hundred yard rushers across him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
On really Suey and Noah liked it, but geez.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Deyontay lost in Jehat Campbell from Bama.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You can put a g hot on me.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh god, Barrett Carter from Clemson. You don't like taking
calls from listeners that say they don't like the direction
of the Clemson Yeah, that's not the case. Jealan Walker, Georgia,
Jay Higgins Iowa, Chandler Martin Memphis. That's your semi finalist list?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right? Well, I know Suya, Noah and maybe a
couple of Stutsman fifteen.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It has been narrowed down to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Old teammate Chris Claiborne. According to our boss, Brian Blackmore
black Moore Blackmore is always right. Claiborne coaches in the
UFL now for the Saint Louis Blackhawks. Ah okay, so,
and because we are mentioning my old connections, it's kind
(09:20):
of on the mind. I've been on a bunch of
text chains with a lot of ex teammates, and I
went on the Big ten Network today with my eyes
all puffy at seven point thirty in the morning with
a Travis Matthew Polo on too and Tim Conway Junior
put me on last night under the guys of talking
about my old coach who passed away at eighty nine yesterday,
(09:43):
John Robinson, and we did talk about John Robinson for
maybe about Well that's nice if youann to help out
tim two and a half minutes, and then we went
on to do five more segments of KFI radio.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, you had the benefit. We were on two to four.
He's on fourth seve so the window is there. We
don't often get to cross paths with Conway because we're
on at the same time, right, So he took full advantage,
so you got to do two to four.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, we got done. We got done yesterday. So I
do what I always do. I looked around the house
and saw that no one was there. I watched a
little bit of Arizona tape and I was like, God,
Arizona's really struggling. I got them on Friday night and
I poured myself a drink at four. Well, I mean,
what else am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Just asking I'm trying to get the timeline right, So
you pour the drink. Yeahs around that time, okay, and
then Conway my.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Drink and then I started getting text and Coach Robinson
passed and that was not as much of a surprise
to those of us that had played for him, because
we're on text chains and we played his son. Dave
Robinson was our tight end coach, and Dave has been
communicating with various teammates and telling us that Coach wasn't
doing well. He lives out in Louisiana, so Dave went
(10:54):
out there to be with him, and so I knew
about that. So I'd heard that Coach had passed, and
I finished one drink and I was like, you know,
why not, nobody's still. No one's here, you know there is.
I'm looking around.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I don't see people, but I do see whiskey left
in this bottle.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right, the big industrial strength one I bought on election night.
And I was lying, okay, uh, you know, my my
son is with my sister, my daughter's with my wife.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
My wife, I'm here alone with whiskey.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I've had one one good turn, deserves another.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So I'm like two SIPs into my second whiskey and
I get the Sharon Bellio bat signal and I just
wrote back now, question mark. And then an hour and
twenty minutes later I got back to my whiskey with
the ice all melted now and the circus had fallen
(11:53):
down on his knee.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So the answer was yes, now, yeah, you go on
the air. I went on there and never got off.
You talked about John Robinson. No, No, that does not
seem like it would fit into Tim Conway Junior show,
because I could sure. I told a couple of stories.
You know, did you do the voice?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Not as much. I gave him a little of the
voice this morning. Because they said you were a running back.
But John Robinson was used to coaching Eric Dickerson and
Charles White and Ricky Bell, and you know you were
a running back for John Robinson. What did he think
of you? What did he say about you? And I
had to say, he said, you're not cut like like
(12:33):
our other guards.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Did they like that?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It seemed like it. They seemed happy. You know. The
Big ten Network.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Was the running back from Illinois on that show. No,
I love that guy too, he's great.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, And it wasn't the Slope Nos guy either, the
Big ten Networks Slope Nose. It was. It was a
guy named Hall, a white guy. There was just an
interview with him.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But he did a great job. And last night, when
we found out Coach passed, my father sent me a
bunch of photographs, a bunch of photographs. He was hitting
me too, Yeah, from the restaurant back in the day
when we were kids, and then of course he'd been
there since then. And really what's interesting is my wife's father,
(13:20):
my wife stepfather, his dad was like a long time
and my wife's stepfather's name is Greg Cole, and his dad,
al Cole was like the original USC John McKay Bagman.
Oh speak, Well, now you know it's whatever, it's not.
(13:40):
It's not frowned upon, but it was frowned upon back then.
But al Cole was very connected with USC and Greg
and Lynn Cole, my in laws were very close with
Coach Robinson and his third wife, the one that lived
in Louisiana. So I'd been in contact with him through
my in laws kind of back and forth, because they
actually spent a lot of time with him. And he
(14:01):
was always a joyful guy and he was always really
lucid and the people he touched throughout his career. I mean,
you think about USC in those days when he coached,
like he called the place for all those Pat Hayden teams.
He was the offensive coordinator and then he became the
head coach, and Dave Wanstad was on those staffs, Joe
(14:24):
Gibbs was on those staffs. North Turner was on those staffs.
And he was the best friend of John Madden from childhood,
and of course they were.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Always I think he worked what a year with Madden, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One year as the running back coach, and then came
back to be the head coach at USC. He was
actually the athletic director for three years along with the
head coach at UNLV in the early two thousands, and
I remember that if it wasn't for what Barry otom
is doing at U and LV right now, which is spectacular.
UNLV's never been this good, then John Robinson would be
(14:58):
their best coach ever other than Harvey Hyde, who had
Randall Cunningham as a punter quarterback. So a lot of
great memories because there's so much football in there, and
so much local football and really great innovations. We'll get
into it a little later on the show, but great
innovations John Robinson was part of in the run game.
(15:19):
We very much take take it for granted now when
we see an offense go up to the line of
scrimmage and we see a tight end move or a
tight end back into an H back position and wave
the receiver up to the line of scrimmage to make
it even. And just the shifting of those guys, the
moving of the fullback over from the I formation into
(15:41):
what you'd call the King formation, you know, to the
strength or or moving him weak to where it's a
little bit of an offset in the backfield. All that
stuff came from j Rob, Joe Gibbs and those guys
creating that kind of run game gap scheme which Don
Coriel started, but they really they really flourished with it.
(16:02):
Student body right, is zone running, you know, all those
different things they did really well. Isolation running and man,
we would do forty forty five play run drills and
then run teach where we would just run the plays
and air and Jay Rob would scream at us the
whole time, you know. So it was it was a
great education. I was very grateful to be able to
(16:24):
play for him because you're connected to so many things
throughout the world of football, throughout the history of football,
from my father's era all the way through with John
McKay and so on the staff on your dad, No,
but my dad played for John McKay and John McKay
and Robinson both came from Oregon. But the crossover is amazing.
(16:47):
Like all those guys, a lot of those guys, Hudson,
how Dave Levy, just famous old football coaches, Marv goo
who's always talked about g ou X the basque guy.
They all not only coached at USC, but when John
Robinson took the Rams job, many of them went to
the La Rams. And the Rams were so good. People
(17:10):
don't remember because they only on the West coast. If
you're watching NFL football in those days, they just couldn't
get over the Niners humped. They were right there the.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Year the Bears in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, lost that one too. They could not get over
the hump in the NFC Championship game. But Jim Everett,
our friend, Henry Ellard, Flipper Anderson, Charles White, Greg Bell,
Eric Dickerson. Of course, all of those people, uh go
down in the annals of great LA football people. And
John Robinson was that for sure. And the best thing
(17:44):
about Robinson I think the most heartwarming thing about the
end of his career was that when ed Ogeron now
Ed didn't coach with John Robinson at USC. John Robinson
was fired in ninety seven and Ed o'j n was
hired in ninety eight by Paul Hackett and then kept
on the Pete Carroll staff and at Ojeron for whatever reason,
(18:11):
reverence or maybe the connection with the wife because she
was from Louisiana, he hired John Robinson and a couple
other guys Kenichiu Daisy who I played with at USC,
and he hired them at LSU as coaching guys or consultants,
and they treated John with absolute reverence in the end
(18:32):
of his life, and they had such a great thing there.
They won that champions one of the great seasons, one
of the great seasons in the history of college football
individual seasons. Of course, it didn't end great, but nothing
ever does in football. Asked John Robinson, Mike Garrett fired
him on an answering machine, and he had to do
his press conference at the Sheraton different down figure out
(18:54):
because they wouln't let him back on campus. Done that.
To me, it was just respire. I remember coming home
from Mexico and I was like, what happened. They fired
j Row on an answer machine. Fool.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So they say he was avoiding the call.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes he was, you know, it's easier to avoid.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It was like, hey, I'm not by the phone.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What are you gonna do? But yeah, there was. It
was sad to hear. But coach was eighty nine and
he was really really a special guy to play for
and his connection with everybody. How Marcus Allen would come
and yell at you and tell you how much you sucked. Sure,
because John Robinson was your coach. Pretty great, and then
(19:34):
he would come do the same because Paul Hackett, you know,
the chiefs and right, Ronnie Lott used to come and
tell us how much we sucked all the time. That
was really fun to hear from Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, it's an authority telling you how much you suck.
At least and Rod.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, Brad buddy again. They all used to show up
and tell us we sucked. Claim Matthews, it was great.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well what was your record?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wonderful time to be alive. We weren't that bad, Okay,
better than these guys. They're four and five, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Only like five plays away from being nine to zero.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Anybody that runs a zipzapp motion or a wham block.
They have John Robinson the thing. We'll be back talk
to Don. Speaking of PAC twelve royalty Pack ten, I
guess now that they're in the Big ten, we can
say Pack ten royalty. Well, no, because the PAC twelve
(20:28):
still exists the label.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's fair point. With two teams, there are two teams,
you are like six, Well not right now, in this moment.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Right now, in this moment, Washington State's got one loss,
all right, okay? And I got their game on Saturday night,
taking the field against New Mexico. You think they can win.
New Mexico's improving Bronco menden Hall is not messing around, Matt.
What's Bob Davey doing. He was fired two coaches ago,
got a raw deal. What's he doing right now? Probably
Morning Faust? Yeah, how about that? Foulest and Jerry Faust
(21:06):
and Jay rob the same day. Faust not looked upon
us fondly, uh from the folks from Notre Dame, as
Jay Robbie is for the folks at USC. That's all cyclical.
You're the leader of this team and you're gonna praay
the rosary with me. We'll be right back with Doc.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Guy needs to get back to high school football. This
is a joke, Fuzzy Faust, let's show some money. AM
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(21:43):
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(22:29):
All right, So there's that Chargers Bengals Sunday.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, we are efforting Don McClain.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Then burn a burning, burn a birding.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And it's a big day in the McClain family. Huge
name because Trent McClane has committed to the University of
West Virginia. Just a verbal so it's still change if
he signs. I mean, but yeah, he's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
He bounce some things off you someone who's been a
more disgusting.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, they took a trip there. Don couldn't go because
he's calling games, but they as a family took a
brook and Trent went to take a look at it
to do a trip, and they took all the pictures
with the Instagram thing that goes around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, live Kelly dancing and doing the bat dance next to.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Him, Yeah, and walked around. Yeah, Brian Kelly did the
thing with his eyes, you know, the Tiffany dance, and
he did all that. And I believe they stayed at
the Marriotte right by the Monongahela the river. I asked
for a picture of the river, did not did it,
did not receive it. So it's a big day. Get
a picture of anything? Did you get a Hey, I
(23:49):
ran into your cousin. Well, since I am kind of
like from Morgan, like from there. Yeah, I've spent many
many nights there in Morgantown. No, I didn't hear anything,
and today is the first, is the first that I
heard of Don McClain at all having the commitment go
through for Trent.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, Kate's that one caught me off guard a little bit.
Sent us the instagram through Trent's Instagram that he is
in fact committed.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So it is a big day for the mcclan take.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Me Home Country Roads says it right there on the
photo right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And then I what I did was added it to
the story of the Petrosen Money Instagram and instead of
using the John Denver take Me Home Country Road, I
used the Slayer even deeper, I use the Lana del
Rey Beautiful because that's how cool I am exactly. So,
(24:46):
would you like to do some text?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Man? Probably? I think we're efforting Don. Hopefully he'll join
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Speaker 3 (25:13):
Chick toill be successful over those two weeks and they
decided to invest their money into a restaurant. I do
a food and drink establishment.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
This says Trance going to West Virginia because he's really
into mountain dew. That is not true. That is not true.
And Marshall is much more of a mountain dew type
of college if you're talking about the state of West
Virginia than the University of West Virginia, which is only
sixty minutes from Pittsburgh and there are directs all the time, right,
(25:44):
So everything's fine. Sorry to hear about your coach. I
loved him as a kid with the Rams. As a tribute,
Are you going to do an impression of him talking
about how you can feel the rivalry in your balls? Yeah,
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It is a mountaineer to his soul. Put him in
the buckskin, give him the deer jerky in his pocket,
hand him a musket, grow a beard and throw a
Coonskin cap on his six foot nine frame.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You better wear that on letter of intense signing days.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh, come on Blue Ridge Mountains, Shennon Indo a River.
The one and only Don McLain, a proud father and
a great man and the greatest basketball player ever scoring
wise in the history of the Pac twelve. You see
him nowadays on the Big Ten Network on fandual sports
(26:52):
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is the one and only Don McLean on the Petro
Somebody show AMPI, somebody La Sports your home of the Dodgers. Hi, Don,
how are you.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It would be kind of cool to throw on that
get up and fire off that musket at football game? Yeah,
maybe I should ask him if I could do it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Shoot a bear. One of those guys did that and
there was a big uproar.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We're rescinding the commitment. However, we will resubmit it if
in fact you can meet this one particular request.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You know, Don, you have great perspective on this stuff,
and you've done a great job of kind of walking
the line. I mean, you've had MVP high school level
suns for years here. But Trent is the guy who's
getting big time power for offers and all of that.
And we've been talking to you throughout this time, and
(27:44):
of course we're very happy. But how how different is it?
I mean, you were a huge recruit out of seem
Valley High back in the day. What's the process been
like in your in your perspective today and how much
different is it from back when you coveted by diamond
Jim Herrick.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, you know what, Pete, it's a great question because
I've learned so much because it is so different. You know,
I was a top ten kid, so it was easy.
I had pretty much every high major and I had
to sort through that and narrow it down. But it's
different now, and that's what I had to learn because
of the portal. It has changed high school recruiting. Now,
if you're a top twenty five, top four kid, it's
(28:25):
kind of still the same as it's always been. But
if you're not, then it's much different. They just don't
value freshmen or incoming freshmen and high school players as
much as they used to because everyone's trying to get old.
How do you get old? You get old in the portal.
And so that springtime where if you aren't sure, or
(28:46):
you were a late bloomer like Trent is in coming
on here, you know, late you would wait till the spring.
You can't wait till the spring anymore, and if you do,
you're really rolling the dice because now all these schools
are looking in the portal for what they need to
get older. And so because Trent was late, he probably
(29:08):
didn't have as many options as I guess we thought
he would have, but he had good options, like really
good options. So now it becomes fit to me. And
that's where I think it hasn't changed where because of
what I do, Because I'm still involved in the game.
Because I see all these colleges practice and shoot rounds
and everything. I understand what fit means. And I think
(29:30):
a lot of kids just go to their best offer,
and looking at it from afar, you'd say, well, Trent
just went to his best offer. Well, there's a reason
why West Virginia, of all places, was really recruiting him.
They were on him the hardest the last two months
out of anybody, and it's because they understood Trents fit
for them, and I and we understood Trents fit for them.
(29:53):
And so that's why people are texting me. I've gotten
more text today and I think I've ever gotten in
one day, like why West Virginia. Well, because of the
fit and the other thing I've learned, and I knew
this and you guys probably know this as well. Basket,
if you're a Division one athlete or Division one basketball player,
(30:13):
your life is eighty percent basketball. So the other twenty
percent is the campus, the facilities, the people, whatever. But
if that eighty percent isn't right, it doesn't matter what
that other twenty percent is. You could be anywhere. And
so getting that fit right and giving yourself a chance
to go to a place where a system fits you,
(30:34):
to give yourself a chance to play and play a
lot at some point was the reason why he's going
from Westlake Village, California, all the way to Morgantown, West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Don not to belabor it, but just curious you mentioned
and I bring it up because Mick basically told us
as much. He's like, look, we want to bring freshmen in,
but it's just not you know, sort of what's going
on in college basketball? You want and you're a UCLA,
So how like how many schools could he have basically
(31:06):
walked on anywhere like any school in the nation, Like, hey,
we would love to have you as a walk on,
but I got to use these scollies for the portal.
Is that kind of what this has turned into a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, it depends on It's more of a big picture thing, Matt, Like,
it's in general like not everyone's in the portal like crazy,
but the pool is smaller now for high school players
because of the portal. And so like West Virginia, this guy,
Darren Devriez, as a first year head coach, was at
Drake for five years, but was an assistant at Creighton
(31:37):
for a long time, I think fifteen or sixteen years,
and so in his first year he told us I
have to go on the portal to have a roster
because a lot of guys left because the new coach
was coming in. But what he wants to do is
value high school players a little bit more. Bring three
or four high school guys in. I think I said
this last week, try and retain five or six guys
(31:58):
in the program, and then one or two portal guys
to fit to bring in any need that you have
at a position. And so it's just the bigger picture
part is a lot of schools, let's say they have
five guys returning well, instead of going and getting three
high school guys, they just go get seven portal guys
(32:21):
and get old. So that's kind of the difference in
terms of you're not going to walk on when you're
good enough to get a scholarship. So that's why it
was interesting to watch when he got to the Sokal Academy,
the prep school, there's college coaches there every day of practice,
the tournaments they play, and there's coaches there every tournament,
and he was finally valued for what he does really
(32:43):
well in the system. Into how West Virginia plays is
that they value a four guy that they can make
decisions and shoot, and that's what Trent does. He's not
a great defender, at least not yet, but he could
really shoot. He's got a high Q, so he can
make good decisions with the ball, and so it looks
like if he can get stronger and get some experience,
(33:04):
then it should be a good fit sooner or later
for him at West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, you go where you could play the next Kyle
Kover and fast, the next Jerry West. The trade down
McClain a hero to the people, and we're always happy
to have him. You see, La hoops. You had him
last night against the Terriers and they won decisively, but
a setback against New Mexico. As Mick Cronin kind of
tries to figure out what sort of team he has
(33:31):
every year, I guess it's a new identity flush for everybody.
But more so than ever, what do you make of them?
And Tim Kates says that they're going to be in
the final four. He says he's going to die on
that hill even if there's no sustenance your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, in this day and age, as you guys know,
everybody panics and jumps the gun after one loss, and
you know they just you know, they ran into the
Mexico team that was hungry, hungrier than they were. And look,
when you have this many portal guys that the ucilly
has had, which they'd never had, but high level players
that have had a lot of experience and a lot
of success at other schools coming in, I think they
(34:06):
were feeling pretty good about themselves that they could waltz
into that place in Henderson, Nevada and just beating New
Mexico and turns out they couldn't, and last night they
got back on track. Look, mixed teams have to guard,
they have to play hard, they have to guard, and
they can't turn it over. They had twenty one turnovers
against New Mexico. And so I think this team offensively
(34:27):
will continue to grow the more they get to know
each other, the more you know, I think the coaching
staff gets to know these guys and put them in
places where they can succeed offensively. But at the end
of the day, it has to look defensively how it
looked last night, high energy, high intensity, tension to detail
and just overwhelming people with their ball pressure and you know,
(34:49):
getting turnovers and you know, going the other way on offense.
So I don't think it's anything to read into, at
least for me, that New Mexico game. But I I
do think they're going to continue to get better and
I think they're going to contend in the Big Ten.
I'm not going to go as far to say they're
going to be in the Final four.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Oh you don't want it a part of indisticates on
the Final four UCLA Hill.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
No, I don't, at least not yet. Maybe at some point,
but I do think they're going to contend in the
Big Ten, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
What I know, you know, it's kind of the way
it's been for a while. Ben Holland certainly did it,
But like, what do you get don And I don't
mean this as a shot, I'm just kind of asking, like,
what do you want to see when you're you know,
prior to conference play, schedule is Lehigh and Idaho State
and Tall State Fullerton some people like to call it
(35:40):
Fullerton State and Southern Utah. Like what what do you
want to take away from those games?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Well, most coaches schedule to their roster. By that, I mean,
you got all these new guys, Man, you can't be
taken on at least early because in December, Matt, they
have Arizona Coze in North Carolina, So like this is
the warm up. November is the warm up for them,
and I'd get it. I think it was smart because
(36:07):
of all these new pieces and like I said, offensively,
they still got room to gel and come together. So
hopefully by the end of November they've done that and
now they're ready for those three because those are monster games.
In December, all three of those teams are ranked in
the top ten.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
The one and only Don McClain, a hero of the people,
always ranked in our top ten on the Petros and
Money Show. We will talk some NBA basketball at this point, Don,
where it can be a cup. Oh, are you excited
about the like? Remember last night the Cup? Remember last year, Don,
where Matt and I were very skeptical, skeptical about the
(36:43):
Cup and you came back and you told us how
stupid we were. You hit us hard like Ronnie over
the trees, the Columbine trees. What are your feelings here
in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five about that
NBA Cup the Lakers hung the banner?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, the same I feel about it last year. But
I think we've learned more in the sense that if
you win the NBA Cup, it doesn't matter for long
term success, right, That's what we learned last year. I
still think it's a great idea. I think it's a
way to chop up the regular season and not make
it seem so long. I think it draws interest to
the NBA before Christmas, which usually there's not, and so
(37:23):
I still like it. But I just think any fan
base that's hanging their hats on winning the Cup and
that translating into an NBA championship was proven wrong last
year for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Thoughts on on the G League the South Bay Lakers
selling out Now, it's only seven hundred seats, but the
excitement around the G League and Bronnie James playing a
handful of minutes and two dollars secondary market tickets there.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm not surprised, Matt. I told you guys. I
saw it when Trent played with Bryce James, not Brownie James,
Bryce James two years ago, and the amount of attention
on that team because of Bryce and Lebron and all that.
I couldn't believe it. And I know it, like, I
know how big of a guy Lebron is and one
of the greatest of all time and all that, but
(38:14):
I could not believe the amount of attention for high
school games. And this was two years ago for Bryce James.
So Bronnie James more of a name and more of
a player than Bryce. I'm not surprised at all. I'm
surprised they're not moving the games to a bigger.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Venue, right, Oh, serious pross position he wants.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
The seriously yeah, like, and I think that I'm not
saying they'd sell a bigger venue out, but they would
certainly get a lot more people in there. I mean,
it's you know, look, Bronnie's a big deal. I feel
bad for the kid because of all the attention he
gets and the expectation on him. And we'll see what
(38:54):
kind of player he turns out to be. But I'm
hoping that he can put all this stuff aside and
just get to work in the G League and really
work on what he needs to work on so that
one day he can eventually become an NBA player. But yeah,
I'm not surprised by that for one second.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I know it's early, way early, don I mean ten
games eleven? Some teams are twelve in. Do you take
anything away from the Lakers and Clippers sitting in the
playing round as it stands right now and the teams
that are ahead of them thunder Suns, Warriors seemed to
be playing really good basketball right now? Yeah, have you
(39:31):
seen enough?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I think the hard part in evaluating the Clippers is
Kawhi hasn't played yet and we don't know when he's
going to play. I think you can start evaluating the
Clippers once Kawhi gets a rip of games in there,
and he's back and playing. But you got to give
ty loon a staff credit that they're in Jeff van
Gundy for sure, that they're you know, above five hundred
without Kawhi and they realize that they're going to have
(39:57):
to play defense every night and guard people. I think
that record's a little better than people probably expected without
Kawhi and what they lost in the offseason. And I
think the Lakers, you know, I think JJ Reddick hasn't
had enough time, I think, and I think I've always
told you guys, I start, like fans, I start really
evaluating where teams are at, you know, mid December ish,
(40:19):
right before Christmas. You kind of have enough games then.
But I think you can take away from some of
the teams that are doing, like Cleveland is going to
be a factor. In the East, I think it's safe
to say that nobody goes twelve to zero anymore, and
they are so they're obviously really good, and Kenny Atkinson
knows what he's doing. And the teams in the West,
(40:40):
I think we assume that we assume the thunder would
be good. We'll see how they do without home Grin
for a while. But yeah, I think I think in
mid December is when we can start really making some
some real evaluations on teams that have things that are
you know, like JJ being a new coach, Kawhi not
playing yet.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
The important things, the great Don McLean, big congratulations on
the mountaineers, keep climbing. Morgantown Motown, West Virginia so close
and it's got its own Primanny Brothers with a big
Jerry West painting on the wall. You just can't beat it.
Beautiful Don, congrats and what a wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I appreciate it, guys, and you guys giving Trent the
love you've given them over the last couple of years.
And I don't know this for sure, but next year
I may go Pee and Matt to Morgantown and may
never come back.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You might not. You know, he's opening an axe drying place.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And you put on those leathers, sots.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
A nice to buy me a cabin on the I'm
gonna buy me a cabin on the Shenan Dona and
do and I'll sit on my porch all day looking
at the river, and all the.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Day is McLean home. I don't know, do you see
any smoke coming out of his chimney.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Fly fishing, guys, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Fly.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Those are a long pair of fly fishing pants. Don
you're the best man. Congrats, it's a wonderful thing to
see that happen. And all the success to Trent and
all the McLean's. As always, we'll talk to you soon next.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Week, our guys. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Hear that door, open that door. I'm out of here.
Car's still running getting inside. Start whittling, Start working on
that beard, yeah, work on a beard. Start whittling now.
I remember the mountaineers rocking in a nice rocking chair.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
The mountaineer went up to the uh is she shot him,
like one of the mountaineers used the actual musket, right,
put real ammo in it and mild a bear, and
he was he's a hunter, obviously, you know, just go.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Killing dam You think it's a prerequisite if you're going
to be that rascot.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, And and everybody got all mad. And then the
West Virginia like president was like, this is a young
man who grew up in these heels sting and.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Killing, and it's legal to hunt bears. It's bear hunting season.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
He was kneeling by it at the outfit like yeah,
Bob Huggins and Dana Holgerson looking.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
On Bob in his sweatsuit on that stool.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Can you see Trent just walking to class and looking
into a window of a bar and Bob Huggins sitting
at the bar and goes give them the little nod,
a little tip of that hat. He huggy. Okay, thanks everybody,
We'll be right back with some reaction. We got a
top story of the day word number song Carson sweesssinger
from UCLA slice John Hi stay with us on this
(43:43):
two ed mono.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Tuesday, I went a little along with Don McLean, but
a lot to celebrate again, A huge hearty congratulations to
Trent McClain committing day verbally to West Virginia. He will
be a mountaineer laying in a big twelve. Good luck
(44:08):
to him, good luck to the McLean family. Breaking down
NBA and NCAAA basketball as he always does. None of that.
Tonight Friday, we will have amateur ranks football though UCLA
up at Washington kickoff at six on a eleven fifty
and Carson Swassenger is going to join us round five
like twenty five thirty Ish aft his award finalist semi
(44:31):
semi one of fifteen.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
But I think this interview is gonna put him over
the top.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Well, he's got to get a profile, a national profile.
We know how many BUCKUS Award voters listen to our.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's still stuck with the former walk on number of
forty nine, so we're gonna have to address that with him.
I mean, this guy is a semi finalist.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
We'll still make him self conscious about his number every
time he puts his jersey on. Now he's looking in
the mirror and he's like, am I a failure? I
remember forty nine?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
It's true though, Like even I I was a I
sort of walked on it se just because I was
in a turmoil of a transfer. But I didn't end
up with a bad number. But what if they slapped
me with like forty six or something. As a running
back took Plague. I love Doug Plague, but Matt, I mean,
(45:18):
come on, it's already hard enough to be a white,
stilted running back.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You show up wearing number forty six. You're not gonna
get any respect from the black guys. And that's the
only reason I played.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
You feel as though you ended up hitting that respect
because of thirty five.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, thirty five was later. You know, my brother wore
the number thirty. I never wanted to wear the number
thirty five. That was my brother's number. But when my
brother's career ended, he asked me to wear thirty five,
so I ended up having to wear thirty five. A
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Okay, now we're talking right, Come on in, Matt fourte.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Right right, and it's Smith Smith Cats. Now let's say
I bawled out in twenty two, you know, and my brother,
you know, those legs didn't fall off, right, might have
gone to number two, might have gone to number two
like Taylor Mays. Just like that. I have a little
lighter on my feet, which is not saying much. I
got a couple of textosa to stay here.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Man, brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
We make it easy.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Think it was Jatavis Brown, the Charger linebacker that had
a really weird linebacker and it was like a forty
nine you're stuck.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, I mean, forty nine is not the worst linebacker
number the world. But if you're a bucket semifinalist you're look,
we're forty nine. It's like, no, you were, That's that's
a walk on number. You gotta do better. We used
to have a walk on guy and he wasn't bad,
but he wore the number forty seven, very walk on me.
And I remember like a couple like a year or
(46:46):
so in like he started getting playing on special teams
and traveling. I mean, you know, if a guy serviceable,
we're gonna use them. And I remember saying to him like, hey, man,
I saw you out there on a kickoff return. That's great,
you know, great to see out there playing. He goes,
forget this special team's I want to get some burned backer.
So he started to say that for the rest of
(47:06):
my career, like like, hey, are you still on the
kick off? To you, it'll be like, man, forget that
special team'ses. I'm looking to get some burned packer.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Forty well, forty seven, especially as a launch snapper number
that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
It's ugly.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Get that fixed.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
This says true fact a mountaineer gets all the beaver
a yeah, this says did Don McClain's son go to
West Virginia Out of deference to Ronnie's song of the
day incident. No, that was about Colorado. That's about that's understandable.
But it was about Rocky Mountain. You know, John Denver
Country Road, Rocky Mountain High the Column Mines or whatever
(47:47):
it was. Colorado has two state songs and it really
upset Ronnie when Don McClain asked him what the other
one was. Nick de Zubner forty eight, That's what it was.
Hell of a special teams guy. Now he may have
wanted to get some Burnett backer, but a special team's ace, man.
I see out there doing pretty well the special teams.
If that special teams s I want to get some
(48:10):
burnt Okay, well, good luck. I guess you know. You
know our starting linebackers today up for the buckets, right.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You know that I would have answered that to any
compliment that was given him from then on forever. Yeah,
that was Listen, you're a heck of a vicar here
and the get.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That Vickers gets some burned linebacker. You were really a
great graphic designer. I mean you two great work. Half
his graphic design Uh this says I heard they covered
the basketball arena with Bob Hoggins old shirt instead of
(48:49):
putting it in a display case.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
He got to be a very large man and needed
a special stool on which to rest his belly. I'm
see what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna sit on
this seat here and then i'mnna put my belly right here.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
A big guy. Okay, there's a lot of bigger, big
people that play back. In a Godzilla versus King Kong
battle over a city in Asia, between Brett b Lama
and Bob Muggins, it looks like Bilama has thrown a
giant bottle of Crown Royal and Bob Buggets had. Bob
(49:26):
Muggins is countered by swinging a keg of beer and Bilama.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Go two prodigious bellies and two guys that were incredibly
thin for a good portion of their careers.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean yeah, I might have been
a white tailback, but I'm coming out of the I'm
coming through the door in the practice field in twenty two.
You're not like, Oh, who's that loser. You're like, oh,
who's that guy? You know, my boy b Oaks who
came from DC coming through the hole in the door
in the gate where number forty eight he got something
(50:02):
to prove Special Team's ace.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I'm're gonna get some Burnett backer, all right. Gotta get
you your word, your number, your song. Top story as
we make our way towards seven pm Full show today,
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