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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, Petro some money. Five seventy LA Sports Live everywhere
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and really the pulse of the LA sports scene. And
Matt vast Kurshion from the MLB Network will be along
again in about thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'll have that set along. We appreciate everybody, especially Colin Yee.
Don't forget to check out today on Spectrum Sportsnet LA.
Tonight we'll be back on the borrow from three to
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it's time with the fun of our fun fast. In effect,
it's yeah, we're three.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Fun fun facts well again, doing our part to recognize
the holiday that is upon us a mere nine days away.
We of course think of the Lions and the Cowboys
when it comes to Thanksgiving Day football games. And yes,
the NFL started playing football games on Thanksgiving Day all
the way back in nineteen twenty six of them, as
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a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Oh just drunk Jim Thorpe kicking people's balls and drinking
a whole bottle of whiskey ninety yard punt.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yes, they were not the Lions nor the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Overhand right to the face from a factory worker.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
People died, however, football, why don't you guys playing this year?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Too many people died last.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Too many people did. However, Thanksgiving Day football. That tradition
started all the way back in eighteen So.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Would we expect him back? We don't at all.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
He's dead out there, so did fourteen others this year?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Should we keep playing this?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Eighteen seventy six is when the tradition of Thanksgiving Day
football started, and it was a decision made between rivals
Yale and Princeton that began the tradition. Excuse me, sculling bones,
sculling bones, Gordon, throw me the ball. Well, sir, I
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throw you the ball. I'll be killed.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. I looked up that Jack Trice thing and I
was like, okay, this is terrible. Thirty other guys died
that year. What do we doing?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I got to clean the game up. You make adjustments, yeah, quickets, ms, quickets.
I make it quick, y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't know how many wheelchairs went down the steps
like OJ and the wheelchair and the naked gun until
they started building ramps. You don't think about.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It a lot of them. Yeah, I think back then
away life A life expectancy was like twenty nineteen years old,
twenty something like that. Jesus was three and a half
feet to exactly. So it's just a different top. Yeah,
you die playing football whatever, it's probably gonna die the
next week from a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's Rivalry week. Sc takes on UCLA. It's been the
butt of many jokes. The Trojans are a six point
fabrico pregame show from lot Age starts at five thirty
Pacific time, kick off at seven thirty. Right here on
a seventy LA Sports. Here is the immortal the Sean
Foster talking to the media last night.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
If a lot of families, you know, somebody, the smarter
one usually comes over here and then the other one
goes to the other school than in the families.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean it, Moven, this is the number one. Yeah,
this is It's not I'm not making up anything. These
are Theesus.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
This has proven facts. This is just a game that
you know when when you talk to people, this is
the only game they didn't want to ask you about
coming out, especially when you're done playing they ask.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You about you're a USC and Uclay, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ready to go. I'm in this so this is this
is me. I've been in this work since ninety eight,
so I was there for a long time. I'm ready
for I'm excited. I've been in it as a recruit,
then coming in as a player, then as an assistant coach,
and then now as.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
The head coach. So I'm going for a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So I understand.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The importance of it. Why do you look so pained, Matt?
Are you holding it forehead?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's concentrating on what he was saying, you know, thinking
how you respond to that. He was in it ninety eight.
You were ninety eight too, and he said you're an idiot.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I am that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He's the smart guy and you're the idiot. You know what,
you went to that other place. I gotta give it
to him. I do appreciate that. He's absolutely right. It
is the one game that they'll ask you about when
your career is over. How'd you do in USCUCLA? What
was your record? How did you play? And I'll be
g damned if we don't get any.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Of that this week.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Not a single person asking if thinking of tickets to
usc UCLA, are you going? Who have you talked to?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And he's asked me as a joke or said you
know what, I'm thinking of going, just to buck the
system right for sure. Ti Oscar Hernandez has reportedly declined
as twenty one point zero five million dollar qualifying offer
from the Dodgers, who he'll enter free agency, big part
of the team. At the championship parade last he says,
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you got to bring him back. He certainly felt the
love for the fans. This is a dream for me
and I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I honestly love the fans. And thank you for all
the support, always been there and for welcome me into
the little time the less it made me feel part
of this family. And what does it mean to you
to have them chant your name on a championship parade?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It means the war.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
This is everything for me and this is why I
played and this is the last thing that I wanted
in my career. And here we are celebrating with the fans,
and this is law right here.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You believed in yourself when you sign with the Dodgers,
do you feel like the game rewarded you.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, I think I got a little more than I
was as vacant. But it's been a hell of a
year and I'm happy to be a part of this.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Hopefully we can run it back next year. Yeah, hopefully
enjoyed the parade. We love you, Thank you need too? Yeah. Yeah,
I am going to climb the offer though. Damn.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I would like that. Maybe there's more couple more media,
maybe twenty to thirty more.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Many horses. Oh, I'm deeply involved in this. The Jets
fired GM Joe Douglas today. Phil Savage takes over as
the interim. I texted Phil Savage, congratulations. He texted me back,
thank you. Jets are now looking for a new GM
and a new head coach. They're one and five since
firing Robert Salah. Congratulations Phil Savage.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I heard they want you to coach at Brice Hall.
That's what Phil said. I feel about being a running
bas coach. I feel about coming out out here.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Hey, Brice, you're too fluid. I want you to look
a little bit more ruffle and tumbly.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's slowed down a little bit. Flow down too fast?
Flow down? Wait too fast?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Then let these guys catch up a little.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know you're out running everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't like how aggressive you're running.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I've catching the ball so well out of the backfield,
would you.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't like your versatility, too versatile? Drop a couple
of those charges are seven and three, they're winners, are
four in a row. They square off the Ravens on
Monday night. We've been talking about the Harbowl. The Rams
are five and five. Just to game back of Arizona
in the NFC West. They host the Screaming Eagles Sunday night.
Coach Hayden Fox, that's so fine. I had a lot
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of bulls about Shador, thought he wanted to be a Raider.
But the Cowboys there and they're in the mix.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I think, should there would be a great cowboy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Maybe they bring Dion and Shader. Michael Irvin took a
cocaine break and was on with Calert this morning on
a seventy.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are you sure he did well? Be the judge?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I believe one. Plus. I can tell you good sources
told me that. Great sources have told me that. That's
all I can say.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like that would do violate me anything else? You think
you took a break?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, we'll be back with some new baseball news and information.
Petros somebody show going all the way till seven, don't ever.
We'll take it a break right now, man, we gotta
take a break. You can't just snort it all day.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Petros in Money A five seventy LA Sports Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We have got UCLA basketball tomorrow,
and Rivalry Week is Saturday, u c l a USC
here on AM five seventy a five thirty pm pre
game kickoff at seven thirty at the Rose Bowl. But
more important than each of those, Thursday, Petrosen Money Live
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for you to go to the Harbowl on Monday night
between the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And the Chargers. Matt, we got Dodgers on our mind.
There's a lot going on with wat Soto being talked
to and the Scott Barris strings being pulled. So joining
us right now, our favorite national baseball voice. It is
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Speaker 2 (10:53):
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Speaker 1 (11:00):
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Speaker 5 (11:21):
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go there with an ia in and your last name,
they give you the Armenian discount, which is a surcharge
of twenty percent. I'm telling you there is the Armenian discount.
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to the Armenian chiropractor. Well, sure, if you want your
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Speaker 2 (11:47):
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Speaker 3 (11:48):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
Not true, not true, at though, Bro, Bro. We hear
what guy from New Jersey say on show, there's gonna
be a white BMW. The t owns me when I'm
making my way up the one thirty four tonight.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And it's gonna smell of arab.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh too good.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Ah, what a time to be alive. We always love
talking to you. Uh would you do this every off season?
So none of this stuff is a surprise to you.
When the rich get richer, it's not like you know,
you guys really toil over who the Reds are going
to sign it free agency. But when you hear Juan
Soto's talking to the Dodgers, how does it make you feel?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I'll put it this way. As a Dodger fan, I
would feel invincible. I would feel completely locked in for
the next decade of my fandom. I'd feel very good
about the Raulmndasy jersey hanging in my closet. I'd feel
really good about all of it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
He was arrested. That's what ui, he screw That's where
we get it from. He screamed at the back of
the car. I'm a dollar.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Oh yeah, I didn't even know what I was stumbling
into with that one. Swear to you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think for the rest of the league, though, I
just feel really beaten down because I mean, you talk
about creating a chasm of a disparity here between the
It's not even the rich and the poor, or the
haves and the have nots, it's the Dodgers and everybody else.
The Mets are the only team that could enter the
conversation with the Dodgers in terms of that bottomless supply
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of finance, not even the Yankees, who are really up
against it. They're in a terrible spot here with this
Soto thing because he was important to them. And if
the figure that we're hearing today is close to being accurate,
and we were hearing it at six sixty, then I
don't know how the Yankees can continue to play in
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that arena. You can't. You can't bring Juan Soto back
at double what you're paying, Aaron Judge. You just can't
beyond the financial inconceivability of it all. What kind of
message is that saying to your guy who was homegrown,
who's a record holder, who's going to be in Monument
Park someday, that the next shiny guy that comes in
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and has a big year is going to double your
then record setting contract, which didn't set a record for
very long. So the Yankees are in a tough spot.
The Mets would love nothing more than to poach the
biggest free agent from the Bronx and bring them over
to Queens. And meanwhile, the Dodgers are sitting around thinking,
we're going to get them if we want them. And
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that's all there is to it. And it's my understanding
that they really want them. If I were assigning like
a top three in who's going to land one Soto
at six point sixty the Mets, that number is going
to speak loudest. I put the Mets and Dodgers at
one and two, and then the Yankees at third, and
then everybody else is in a no chance bucket. All
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this nonsense we hear about, Oh he's taking meetings with
Toronto and Boston and the Phillies don't have a meeting,
but they're interested. That was the latest thing today. That's
all just culling a market. That's all stuff. That's just
helping the agent, not that he needs any help with this.
It's really now the three teams.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
For me, How does just baseball wise, you know, with Otani,
you know locked in too, be in DH for the
next ten years, How does that work with Sodo? Are
we are we kind of missing it on his his
defensive abilities, his limitations, or how would that work for
the next decade when you already got the best hitter
in the game at your DH spot.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
That's a really good point, Matt. You know, if short
term see serviceable in right field, I'm not going to
say he's good out there, that's my opinion. They're going
to try to tell you that he's good out there.
You know, he threw a runner out in the first
series of the year at Houston and then everybody like,
oh my god, look at what what the pinstripes are
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doing to his defensive metrics. Now, no, no, he's he's
not considered a plus defender. And that's about as diplomatically
as I could say that. So you live with it
in the short term and then you hold your nose
in the long term and hope that he hits three
thirty with forty homers every year, because guys can hit
their way out of being bad defenders and still be
considered generational talent. But that DH spot is spoken for
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with Otani. And that's another thing. If Otani signed for
seven hundred million and he pitches and hits and is
the most ridiculously perfect player that's ever been created, and
the possibly the most talented player that's ever played sport.
You're gonna pay Wan Soto close to that. I don't
get the mass. It just doesn't make any sense to him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
He has that twitch style. You know, he does all
the weird stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know, a hard look at the pictures if they
walk him. He's theatrical, you know, Hollywood. You know, Tony
just goes up there and apologizes everybody.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
He is good TV that shuffle, love him or hate him,
like he's going to help somebody. I don't mean to
be a detractor of Wan Soto. He's going to help somebody.
And the Yankees don't get to the World Series without
him last year. But we're talking about commensurate money with Otani.
The next closest deal in terms of richest in baseball
history after Otani is in the three hundred millions. You're
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telling me you're going to skip all the way to
six for Wan Soto. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You know what, we don't get Roki Sasaki just because
we have no idea what it is. We've just been
told that. It's like you thought Yamamoto was great. Sasaki's
the guy, and we took the word for it with Yamamoto.
We're like, yeah, let's get him, and it worked out.
What about Sasaki? What can you tell us about him?
How good is he is? This projection? Is he already delivered? Like,
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what is this dude?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
No, the word is on him that he is an
unfinished product. He's only twenty three, and I think therein
lies all the intrigue and the interest in his upseide.
So this is a guy, this is a guy that's
so young. He grew up idolizing you Darvish who's still
in the middle of his career. He's that much of
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a kid. If he was this good in Japan and
he was like, you know, look, anybody can google the numbers.
He was pretty dominant there. His high school track record
kind of got him on the tabloids immediately, and then
he became a star from there with the Marines I
think was his team. If he was that good already
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and then he comes here, the thought is he gets
even better and you lock up a twenty three year
old guy for a long term deal, as opposed to
a dice K Matsuzaka, a Yamamoto. Guys who wait and
play their full career there before being posted by the club.
It really has to do with getting him at at
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an earlier expiration date, the same way Otani came here earlier.
If Roki Sasaki had waited two years, he could come
here as an unqualified free agent and signed for four
hundred million dollars or whatever the numbers are at that point.
He wants to come here and compete. He's going to
get a princely sum certainly down the road, but he's
going to be pretty good. According to everybody I've talked to.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Matt vaskerzhon a hero to the people here, to all
of us from the MLB network, do you think the
Dodgers should bring back all the guys that make you
feel good? You know, like too Scar and Kei k Walker,
Walker Bueller, old Sharkface, you know, the guys that the
guys that they were all gonna let go if they
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didn't win.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, it felt like Walker Buehler was going to have
to look elsewhere from employment in August, right, because it
just was wobbly when he came back. I think he's
got a pretty good chance to come back. And Keik
has turned into such a cult hero that he's probably like, look,
there's only four Dodgers that have ever hit more postseason
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homers than Keik Hernandez.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
He's a different guy. In October, tay Oscar was great too.
I wouldn't be surprised if all those guys come back.
I wouldn't be surprised if Taoscar Hernandez is replaced by
Juan Soto in the outfield and or Anthony Santandre, who's
a really good switch hitting free agent. With the Orioles
that Dodgers are in a position where they can do
whatever they want. And if they want to bring in
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a glue guy like uh, like Keik to add to
the glue guy like the shortstop that they've got that
they've brought back Rojas, Miguel Rojas, who they love. That's fine.
They could do that, keep them, keep him on the
phantom iyel for a few days, send him to Triple A, ah,
bring him back up for the fall. Why not?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, we love him. The great Matt Vaskerzhon a hero
to all of us baseball information always in a premium
there and very smoothly and I would say comfortably delivered,
makes you feel like you're.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Wins to the Rose Bowl this weekend guys who wins
at the Rose Bowl. I'm just you know, as a
curious onlooker.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well certainly not the uh not that everybody loses, is
what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Got the box office there, not the.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Southern California football public.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
No, no, no. I mean granted, I played in a
few of these that were very meaningless and they meant
everything to me. But uh.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, it just feels like one of those years.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
If a tree falls in the forest, We'll let you
know if it makes us sound.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I got it, got it?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
There he goes, mad Vest Cursion, take that to the
coffee machine.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
We'll see what happens with Soto. If Sodo signs with
the Dodgers, everybody's gonna leave and write an article about that.
That's true, Matt Vest Cursion, the best on the Picture
of Somebody Show. We'll be back with your Dead and
Alive Guy, Birthday of the Day, and we'll wrapping up
brut Insider coming up at seven. Well, big TV man kids,
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check them out tonight on Spectrum Sports net LA. Big
thank you to calling Ye callin Ye ten headed way
out Inland. I believe to do a high school football
contest this weekend.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Apple Valley, Oh our favorite, we love Apple, hit up
that Dutch Brothers for Kates before you, Hey, you get
over there to call the game. Get all wired.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Sons are the pioneers forever. Listen to it all the
way out rolling along with the Tumbling tumb movies. Ronnie
Fossio At Ronnie Fossik, you hosted the playlist. Don't forget.
We'll be out at the BJS on Thursday and Torrance
in a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's exactly right and we want to see you. It's
something we pushed for and demanded. We wanted the Torrents location,
BJ's requested others, but they acquiesced. They gave us what
we requested, and now we need you the people to deliver.
Pack the place, Torrance two to five pm. Delamo Fashion
Center right there by Carson Street. Gonna have great prizes,
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including tickets to the Chargers Ravens Monday night football game.
It's so five. BJ's of course, gonna have their great
food and happy hour specials going so again, Torrance, Dilamo
Fashion Center two to five pm. A live Petros and
money show.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And what about this weekend, Matt, We got a lot
of football action. John you got.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That guy, you know, hell of an off ball linebacker.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He's a noseguard.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Makes sense. Make sure you phonetically spell that one out.
This weekend, though we will have UCLA USC it is
rivalry week. You wouldn't know it by the attention or
lack thereof being paid to UCLA versus USC at the
Rose Bowl. But the battle for LA will be heard
right here five thirty pm pre seven thirty pm kick
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on Saturday on the flagship.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Hey have five seventy all right, Matt, your dead guy.
Birthday of the day, probably other than Charles Mingus, the
most legendary Watts, Los Angeles jazz man that ever lived.
Don Cherry eighty eight years old today, but he's been
dead a long time. From Oklahoma City, originally but an
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LA jazz trumpet and band leading legend. Mother chalk Paw.
Not to be confused with the chickjaw. No, he was
interested in the old chickjaw trap.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Chocktaw.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Different. His father was black. He owned a club and
ok see, his dad called the Cherry Blossom. It was
a jazz club, Live Jazz nineteen forty Okay. They moved
to Watts, where he was raised, where his dad worked
the Vibrant and you can read all about it at
Central Avenue jazz scene in Los Angeles as a bartender.
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Bartender now Cherry went to Fremont High. Let's go Pathfinder,
but get this, often skip school to run down to
the other high school, Jefferson High, home of the Democrats,
where they had that legendary jazz swing band, and he
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would sit in with them who went to Jefferson High
and a James Dexter Gordon. People like that. Max Roach said,
nobody super impactful, No no, But despite their lack of
impact he did meet a lot of collaborators there. Hit
the LA scene in the fifties with guys like Max Roach.
Free jazz star Matt. He became a huge star under
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Ornette Coleman for all those weirdos. He was Coleman's trumpet
player for quite some time, famous in his quintent for
Atlantic and famous avant garde session with John Coltrane. Of course,
recorded and toured with Sonny Rollins. Not exactly a lightweight Matt.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
His first Sony Can Play.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
As opposed to his first solo album was Complete Communion
for Blue Note, very very popular, got really expiritmental as
you Can Hear played behind Alan Ginsburg for an album
(26:17):
continued with Ornette Coleman. Now he was married to a
Swedish painter by the name of Mochi Cherry, and she
had a daughter that he adopted, Nia Cherry. With your
buffalo stance.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean, listen, Don Can play, but it ain't no
buffalo stance from Nina Cherry. Come on, looking good today,
looking good in every way.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You know I'm gonna give. I'm not gonna say Nia
Cherry is not an impactful artist in her own way.
Or his son, Eagle Eye Cherity. Yeah, that's straight up
his kid not an adopt right other musician kids as well,
one of them died of an Now, Miles Davis talks
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some ass about Don Cherry. He said, he's just playing notes.
It's like well as opposed to Yeah, It's like when
you say something and somebody goes, well, those are just words.
What are you playing?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm playing energy man, That's what I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I know they're just words. Is that? What else am
I supposed to use? Pantomime? Miles Davis dismissed, but dismissed him.
But they did a blind a blind taste blind test
and Miles was like, oh, oh, he's good. Oh. Cherry
was like, that's right, bitch, bitch.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Chop tall forever chick tak mother effort.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He was only fifty eight when he died of liver
cancer in nineteen ninety five. Terrible, yeah, but worth looking up.
A real jazz o g from Watts and helped develop
global music. Don Cherry an la legend.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well you're a live guy. Tip of the cap to
one of the better stories ever told on the show,
Bobby Moore. He is seventy five years old today, but
we go with a happy sixty sixth Charlie Kaufman.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm not as mad as Bobby Moore anymore, because you know,
at least he doesn't have his head out. If you're
gonna have your head up somebody's ass, at least let
it be Jordan like Wins with his big fat face
up Lebron's ass. All scared to say something about.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Bron carried him for twenty five years. A lot for shot,
you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
They reeled you back in like a manatee. Didn't they
win horse.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
They did no neck sixty sixth Charlie Kaufman, for no
other reason than to encourage you to watch his directorial debut,
Senecta Key, New York.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh from Schenectady in the House.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Roger Eeber called it the film of the decade. Rex
Reed called it the worst film of two thousand and eight.
Whoa Yeah, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Keener, Weast, Williams, Yeah, I
love We's.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's hard to follow at times. There is not a
single happy moment in the entire film.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Weast is under cover hot in footloose. Yeah, as the
busty approving preacher's wife.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Busty is the key there, oh yeah, oh yeah, hiding
those things get hiding from me. It was contracted to
be a horror film written by Kaufman, directed by Spike Jones,
who did all of his other stuff at being John
Malkovich turn all that sort of stuff, but instead he
was Spike Jones was hired to do Where the Wild
Things Are, so it turned into well, Senectic Key, New York.
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There are YouTube videos that have a million views that
are titled explaining the genius of Senectic Key, New York.
You hear the music. John Bryant did the soundtrack and
it's brilliant. So there you go but to Kaufman born
in the Big Town, grew up in West Hartford, Connecticut.
Drama club in high school, performed, was the lead actor
guy at high school, went to NYU, studied film, wrote scripts,
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wrote plays, none were ever produced. While earning his degree,
got a job writing for National Lampoon in eighty three,
kept writing, kept sending out scripts, nothing, specs for all
the big TV shows at the time, Married with children,
Simpson's New Heart, nothing even New Heart, even New Heart declined.
He gets married, wife says, come on, man, you gotta
(30:12):
get a job. So he takes a get Get the
Start Tribute in Minneapolis while working for the Minneapolis Institute
of Art. But he keeps sending out those specs. An
LA agent read One reached out, said move to LA
and we'll get you a job. So he does the
job Chris Elliot's Get a Life. He wrote two episodes
before the show was canceled almost immediately after he moved out.
(30:35):
But it leads. The people at Fox liked him, so
they got him Ned and Stacey, The Trouble with Larry,
The Dana Carvey Show. And he kept writing all memorable,
all memorable. He kept writing specs for Film Now. While
doing that, and in nineteen ninety four, Francis Ford Coppola
read Being John Malkovich and passed it on to his
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son in law Spike Jones, and said, you should make
this film And well turned out to be a pretty
good idea for old FFC won the BAFTA nominated for
the Oscar with Spike Jones adaptation got them another baf
Doune another Oscar nomination. His Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
was Clooney's directorial debut. Kaufman said, Clooney fed it up.
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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind followed again nominated, and
for the first time, Kaufman won the Oscar for Best
Original Screenplay. He took his shot at directing in the
aforementioned Senectiky New York had bombed at the box office,
had split the critics, but it is now widely considered
one of the best films of this century.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Not if you talk, they're freaking Rex read Rex read.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But he couldn't really get anything after that. He was
doing rewrites, rewrites for like Kung Fu Panda and ad Astra.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
What's wrong with doing a rewrite for Kung Fu Panda?
Nothing This one's a little dark need the lightless sense sad.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
He did, however, return to all of his glory with
and Noma Lisa, the stop motion animation nominated for Everything
Best Animation at the Oscars Golden Globes, won the Grand
Jury Prize. He wrote a novel Aunt Kine. He did
I'm Thinking of Ending Things for Netflix, and he wrote
Oryan and the Dark for Netflix.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
A prolific writer.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, lived out here in Pasadena until he moved back
to the big town in twenty twenties. Married, has a daughter.
Really not a lot of joy in many of his films.
Seemed to really like him.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Intelligent people aren't very happy. Yes, yes, I just walk
around with a big smile on my face. It was
so stupid.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's what I do, farting, spitting, drinking soda. It's a
great life, man.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Well, you soda drinkers are going to enjoy The Brewing
Insider coming up next with Brian Finley. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh good? Oh he kept this.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I was thinking maybe he just logged a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
How could you do that? You didn't know they were
gonna lose to watch it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Here's an Evergreen episode with the wrestling coach. Here's an
evergreen episode because the fencing.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I don't believe you see all hands either of those sports.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's the evergreen episode with the polo coach.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't you know what, Matt again, I actually I
think those would go over fine because then those sports
don't exist. There, you do, you would be interesting just
to make that up and see if anybody caught it
like that. We're gonna interview the synchronized swimming team.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
To let's do it, start doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Call Corvino, Hey, you look like a clown? All right?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Do you dressed like a cloud?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Don't forget to uh be quiet slipping out of that
slided glass store. In the morning, we'll be back with
more great sports.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Sucks bed staring at the ceiling till late thirty three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
We're gonna start tomorrow. I have a great day and night.
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