December 3, 2024 • 40 mins
Only Cates Cares with a story Ohtani getting a big collection of baseball cards. Petros with a recap of another disappointing USC football season. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day
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Care and now for a segment that I've already lost
interest in before this open is finished, Only Kass.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
A lot of stuff we can get into Petros. Yeah,
it's been a long time since Little occ only Kate's Cares,
But there's two things that are.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Really infused with orange orange co.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do not get confused at all between OCC College and
only Kate's Cares. I wanted to get into UCLA basketball.
In fact, I wrote this whole thing out last night,
some bullet points on what I wanted to hit on
Petros about the lack of attendance at poly Pavilion through
the first five home games average he had about forty
five hundred people. That's it. That's like best case scenario
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attendance at these games, tickets sold, not actually how many
people are at poly Pavilion, and really the apathy towards
UCLA basketball that has grown even.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Can you say that there's not an apathy towards UCLA football.
But UCLA basketball has actual expectations and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
At high expectations, Final Four appearance three and a half
years ago, a rebuilt roster, they got one of the
best coaches in college basketball. Money absolutely, Plus it's a
built in on campus arena that's easy to get to
for the students, and I know there's been the Thanksgiving holiday.
I wanted to get into this whole thing about it
because it's really bothering me and I do postgame hero.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I saw the Ben Bulch tweet, yes, where there was
like a real pathetic like role call.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, there's like seven fans there.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That was like literally like it was bad. No.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then the fans that do go to the game.
I'm hearing from people who are at Polly Pavilion, like,
why does Mick Cronin curse so much with the player?
Why is he saying things like he does.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Get over yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean, as long as he gets w's and they're
five and one on the season, whatever they're at right now,
who cares six and one?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Figure out what they are?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You got brewing talk to that's right on AM eleven
to fifty. Besides that, I wanted to get into two
things that really jumped out to me. First, you know
how much I love baseball cards, right yeah, Colin E
and I and the Dodger studio have gone to great
lengths to get every Dodger player on the twenty twenty
four roster, and we built this whole diamond.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So you're not going to talk about the lack of
participation at UCLA. No.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I wanted to get into it. But then I was like,
am I the only one that cares about this. I
believe apparently I am the only one. Well, we'll see tonight,
Big ten play U CLA washing show. Hey o Tani,
we all know what happened with this interpreter Epe meets Ahara. Well,
plead guilty tax fraud. You know everything, the bank fraud.
Back in June, he's got a hey Backotanni. Do we
really know exactly seventeen million dollars? Sure plus he owes
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the irs one point one million dollars. He's gonna be
sentenced in January and a federal court after pleading guilty.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That we know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Did you know that before he got busted? Ebe mit
Sahara bought nearly four hundred thousand dollars worth of baseball
cards of Show hey Otani. Ones that were autographed relic cards,
Big item baseball cards, rookie cards from show Ayotani. Nearly
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four hundred thousand dollars worth of baseball cards. Part of
his plea deal, he's got to turn over those baseball
cards to show Heyotani himself.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
TONI wants his cards exactly. He just wants the cards
because they were bought with show his money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
By EPA and it's part of the deal. He's got
to pay back the sixteen plus million dollars to him.
This is officially three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars
worth of baseball cards that are in cases that the
federal government currently has in their possession.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But then is gonna turn around and sell him.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't know what he's gonna do. My question, de
Otani is what are you going to do with those?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Show eight?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
If you like, we can put them up in the
studio for display.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We had notice that our baseball card wall is now
quite sparse.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, the season's over. We don't know if certain guys
are going to be back with the Dodgers, like Jack Flaherny.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So who's up there now? There's only four.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We have four Dodger legends currently up on the wall,
and they're old baseball cards, Oral Herscheizer, Steve Sachs, Rick Monday,
and the late great Fernando Valentuela, all broadcasts, all Broder
broadcasters and Dodger greats. We've taken every other card down.
Three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars worth of baseball
cards is a lot of baseball you're asked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
For one from Otani to put on this.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Wall one, two three if he wants to, you know,
donate them, if he wants to put them on display,
and we'll give him back whatever he wants to do.
What is three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars with
the baseball cards to show Heyo Tani? It's nothing, it's
a drop in the bucket to show Heyo Tani. Why
not take those cards and put them on display here
at m FI seven Ela Sports. Now, these cards that
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he's going to get back in his possession are worth
a lot, certainly, but they're signing cards. Like we mentioned,
these were all things that were bought off eBay and
bought a card shows from epay and now show hey
who was supposed to go to court in two weeks
against Epay to get his money back. Part of the
deal is these baseball cards will be handed over to
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them next month.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did they intentionally wait until the season was over problem
to haul Epay into jail? Is he going to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
January twentieth, I beliek. If this is a sentencing to
yep January twentieth, he is scheduled in court to go
to jail. So Epey stole all the money and now
he's got to pay it back, and he's doing so
in baseball cards currency to show heyot absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Ever since COVID baseball cards are better than real money.
Everybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We all know that, and they continue to get more
and more popular. Check out Burbank Sports Cards here in
Burbank for all your baseball card needs. By the way,
we got another story for got another story for you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You need a wipe, you know, you need like a
shorter version, like a like a real quick anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Baker Mayfield back in the news. He'll be here in
town taking on the Los Angeles Targers in just a
couple of weeks. We got tickets to that game coming
up at Bjay's on Thursday in Downey.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I would never say this if Matt was here. What's
m But I have Baker Mayfield's phone number, do you really? Yeah,
he gave it to me. I never texted him or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Baker Mayfield weighed in on the whole flag planting across
college football over the weekend started it. Yeah, yeah, you
go back to twenty seventeen. Here he is in Columbus
after beating Ohio State twenty sixteen, like they I lost
that home to Ohio State and they did the whole
oh Hio chant at midfield in Norman twenty seventeen Columbus
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and upset. Oklahoma gets the win. This is what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, he's not, No, he's not gonna plan at the
midfield or the olas.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wow, yes he is. Looks like the Ohio State band
just come out of those seats up. They didn't like that.
There's no here to defend the house. The band shut out.
I guess the buck guys in the locker room saw
that they might come out and take issue. Now they're
going to dance on the block. THU was surprising. They're
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chanting yeah right, and then they disrespect you. This was
their statement.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I did a couple of Oklahoma games that year with.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Baker twenty seven teams. Baker Mayfield planted the flag in
midfield in Columbus. You heard Kirk Curve Street and Chris
Fowler talking about it. Here was Here was Baker after
the game defending kind of what he did, but also apologizing.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Did not mean for it to be disrespectful towards any
Ohio State people at all.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Especially enough the team or the play.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Because they're a great team in a great program. So
I didn't mean it to be disrespectfoot all. I mean,
we do we do the flag thing at OU Texas,
and so that's just something I got caught up in
an emotional win. And you know, yeah, it should have
been something I did in the locker room. So I
apologize for doing it in the middle of the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Field, all right. So Baker Mayfield really got it going
in twenty seventeen. He was asked about it yesterday at
his media availability for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he said, quote,
you take your l and you move on. He said,
Oklahoma and Texas do it every time they play. It's
not anything special. You take the loss, you move on.
I'll leave it at that. College football is meant to
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have rivalries. That's like the Big twelve banning the horns
down signal. Just let the boys play.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's what I said yesterday. You go ahead and do
that if you want to. But the guys that lost
the game, get out of there before anybody recognizes you.
Get up the tunnel. You lost.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Some pushback against Baker on social media because this was
the same guy was grabbing his crotch. Oh yeah, in
a game that he played at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Look, he's a competitive guy and he's fiery, and he's saying,
let people be competitive and fiery, but once the game's over,
you don't need to go throwing blows out there, because
you had plenty of times to throw the blows when
the clock was running. One thing Baker Mayfield I did
in my own very personal experience when he was having
that great year the year he planted the flag, they
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were playing a Matt Rule team at Baylor, and the
night before the game, Baker Mayfield tweeted something out like, Hey,
your daddy's in town and he's here to spank you.
And the Baylor people were so pissed. And then he
came out for warm ups and he's running around taunting
him in like a cutoffs T shirt in his football pants.
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I mean, he drove those people insane. He was kind
of like a ring leader of the tormentors or an
antagonist or an anti hero. So he definitely got under
people's skin as a player in his time in college football.
Great player, but I think the whole organized team brawl
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because the flag planting and all that, I think it's
a little much. The whole thing is just kind of stupid.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
The Big Ten has come out today and find both
Michigan and Ohio State one hundred thousand dollars each for
their postgame brawl at the Horseshoe in Columbus. So the
ACC came after their schools. Now the Big Ten has
come down on their two schools. We'll see if the
Big Twelve comes down on Arizona and Arizona State for
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their lo.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Now, the whole thing about like uh, planting something too,
like you don't need to do that either, but you
don't have to act all hard if somebody is doing it.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There you go Petro's. That's only Kate cares Again. I
was going to get into UCLA basketball.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
A little bit of apathy has set it here in town.
But the callers on Brewin Talk tonight, will they reverse
that tide.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It'll be plenty of they're going to turn the tide
to night.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
On a eleven fifty Ucla watching it, call Kate's after
game at ten, so he shuts up about it. On
Ani seventy LA Sports, we will continue with a USC
twenty twenty four season recap. A lot of people have
asked about a recap after the Notre Dame game. We
will give you a season recap because USC football is
going to go into hibernation. Maybe they're gonna play in
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the sun Ball. I'll get pretty excited about that. But
other than that, it's pretty much over. No championship game
or anything like that will put us se to bed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Next he's the Petros and money show on this to
Hermano Tuesday to two, Hermano two, Edmano, Hermano.
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Just go ahead. I'm sorry interrupt.
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
All right, it is time, as promised, for today's top
story of it, Top Story of the day, which is
a USC twenty twenty four recap. Everybody's heard the old
saying close only counts, and horseshoes and hand grenades fight,
don't fight a fight all well. USC football coach Lincoln
Riley spent the balance of this season trying to convince
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Trojan fans that close also counts in football, but he
is wrong. In early November, the USC lost at Washington.
Its record dropped to four and five. They had the
lead in the fourth quarter of all five losses. The
overwhelming storyline of the twenty twenty fourth Trojans is that
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the USC players and coaches kept blowing fourth quarter leads,
and Lincoln Riley's whining after losses was his attempt to
spin the blame away from himself, and he did a
bad job of pushing that story too. The truth was
pretty simple. This season's Trojans finished six and six. They
blew fourth quarter leads in every loss except for Saturday's
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Notre Dame loss.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
How did they blow the losses in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All kinds of different ways. Notre Dame game had its
own fireworks. They actually got close to tying the Irish
with four minutes remaining in the game, but the quarterback
Jade and Mayava threw a pair of pick sixes of
one hundred yards each.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Back to back series.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yes, the US he had a shot in some form
of redemption in its final aim and crashed and burned
in spectacular fashion. Now the last it's been a while.
The last great USC team was two thousand and eight.
Those Trojans were twelve and one, three first round picks
and Mark Sanchez, Brian Cushing, and Clay Matthews. The seven
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seasons from two through two thousand and eight, USC went
eighty two and nine, with two national titles, three Heisman winners,
and seven straight Pac ten titles.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The glory days, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now the seven seasons from twenty eighteen through twenty twenty four,
they've gone forty seven and thirty five with no national titles,
no conference titles and yes, one Heisman winner.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, but you can blame it all on one person, Clayton,
tell you can, and.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm gonna get to the bottom of that. Wait, we're
gonna simplify this because there's a lot that's happened to me.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Simple blame one guy for everything.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, while matching the best seven Pete Carroll years might
not be possible. And I get that winning fifty seven
percent of the games is nowhere near acceptable. And the
problem CAATESE is poor leadership. That's the most consistent thing
about the USC football program. It became the culture at USC,
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and it's become that and it's got to change. The
expectation at USC is that of any other blue blood
If you're a blue blood program, you want to compete
for the national title. But the Trojans aren't even close.
They just finished tied for ninth place in the Big Ten.
And this season was a failure and any value of
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beating an average LSU team and the opener was washed
away with losses to Minnesota and Maryland. You know how
many Big Ten games Maryland won this year? One they
beat USC. And I know about bad football teams. I'm
speaking from experience my senior season, our team was three
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and zeroe and ranked eighth in the nation, and we
ended up five and seven, and we finished in last
place in the Pac ten. Still the only last place
team in USC history.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Congratulations well and it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
This coach has loved to say this year's team played
better defense than last season, but it played worse on offense,
and it played worse on special teams. And it's a
vicious cycle. No momentum was built, and the ball practices
haven't helped the program in Lincoln Riley's first two decembers.
The way I look at it, in twenty twenty two,
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the two lane loss was a huge red flag. The
team going one in five to end the twenty twenty
three regular season was a clear sign of Lincoln Riley's
lack of leadership. And now he's going to build the
program back up at USC.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But they didn't have a quarterback the last two seasons.
I mean, they had nobody to relate.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Cayler Williams, as I bring up a few times a
year since USC hired Lincoln Riley, he was not the
architect at Oklahoma. He inherited a championship level program in
Norman and did not sustain it. So linc quit at Oklahoma.
The four Oklahoma quit on him, and now unless the
Chicago Bears hire Lincoln Riley away, he'll be the USC
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coach in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You talk to people at Oklahoma, they're still pissed at him. Yeah, hey, hey,
they haven't regrouped since then. They can't figure out a
way to win.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
No, but USC's not going to fire him, and Oklahoma
now has their own problems with venables. Look at the
people that have made the bad decisions at USC. The
names in no particular order. You want to blame somebody,
it's consistent lack of leadership. School presidents Max Nikias and
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Carol fult Ads, Mike Garrett, Pat Hayden, Lynn Swan, Mike Bone,
coaches Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian Clay Helton, Lincoln Riley. Put
all those names in a bowl, mix them around, and
what comes out is half baked lack of leadership. That
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adds up to fifteen years of dysfunction and only three
good seasons of football have been played by the Trojans
during that stretch.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Can you take sark and Kiffin out of there? Because
they've been successful after leaving USC, so maybe it wasn't
necessarily their faul out of USC.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
First of all, Sark's life imploded at USC, true, and
it was an embarrassment to everybody between him and Pat
Hayden and Lane. Kiffen was fired on a tarmac at USC,
which created this whole tarmac lore. And I don't think
that's all Kiffin's fault. Pat Hayden didn't have to do that.
But I don't think you take them out because the USC,
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they're part of the dysfunction of right at the beginning.
And yeah, they had the sanctions and all that. Kiffins
twenty eleven team was ten and two but not eligible
to play in a bowl. Helton's twenty sixteen team got
into a Rose Bowl on a technicality over a South
Division champion Colorado and they beat Penn State.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Thank you, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, and they finished ten and three. The third good
Trojan team over the last fifteen years was Riley's first
team in twenty twenty two. Lincoln was riding high. Two
years ago today, they were eleven and one. They were
in Las Vegas preparing to play Utah in the PAC
twelve Championship game. They would have clinched a college football
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playoff berth with a victory that night, and USC got
pounded by the Utes, and the Trojans have not been
heard from since. Four weeks later was the previously referenced
embarrassing Cotton Bowl loss to Tule. Following the Pac twelve
championship game lost to Utah, Lincoln Riley made his pompous
quote about how I'll be disappointed if this isn't the
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worst team that we've had in our entire tenure here
that was the best. He had the complete wrong read
on what was happening with the program, and it reaked
of him trying to flex on the rest of the
Pac twelve. Fast forward two years, a low level bowl
game awaits the Trojans, and after three seasons under Lincoln Riley,
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I don't think the program's on the rise, and I
don't see any about menim moving into next season.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Look at the foundation going into next year. Who do
they have a quarterback who's going to run the football,
who will be back at the skill positions once they
go into the portal.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What. Once I get a read on it, I'll let
you know, But I mean it's a fluid situation, as
they will tell you, but you see productive players headed
for the portal as far as recruiting signing days to
and Antonio Morales, who covers usc for The Athletic, posted
over the weekend that ten blue chip verbals have decommitted
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from the Trojans already.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm sorry you said ten ten, So.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
One guy decommits. I don't even I don't even bat
an eyelash. Sure two nothing, three nothing, four nothing? Five?
Not ten? Maybe something to look at. Lots of valid
questions are still lingering from the regular season, but the
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three that I have a really hard time getting passed
are these. After making the move to Jade Mayava quarterback,
how come he didn't run more? What Mayava does best
is extend plays with his legs, supposed to be his strength.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
We saw that against UCLA a little bit. Yeah, one
of the big touchdowns in the second half he created
with his legs.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So why didn't he run more? Why didn't sophomore receiver
returner zac Brand Why did he only score one touchdown
this season?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's one of the most dynamic players in college football.
They tell us.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
First team All Packed twelve as a freshman after scoring
five touchdowns but struggled as a sophomore. Why why couldn't
she use him late in the tie game against Penn State.
Why did Lincoln Riley intentionally drain two minutes off the
clock near midfield in hopes of setting up a fifty
three yard field goal? Why not play for better field
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position at a makeable field goal. These are things that
no one's ever going to answer, because he gets really
weird and bristly when somebody asked him an honest question.
But if you're supposed to be an offensive superstar coach,
and you're supposed to understand offense better than anybody out there,
and that's why there's a seventy million dollar buyout, why
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haven't you identified the best players on offense to do
what they do best, Like.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Woody Marx the best player on their offense? The running
back coverage is six yards per carry.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Jacobe Lane, guy's got like nine touchdowns but only thirty
five targets. What's going on? You're an offensive genius, but
you don't have defined roles figured out all the way
through the season as the offense got worse and worse
and worse. So will it get better next season? You
tell me there are road games in Illinois, Nebraska, Oregon
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and Notre Dame and Michigan, Iowa and Michigan State travel here.
So it's Northwestern and UCLA. They all come to the Coliseal.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So the schedule gets harder in a year two, right?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I mean, I just don't see. I don't see a
light at the end of the tunnel for Lincoln Riley's
USC football team and your Lincoln Riley's USC program. But
I don't think the athletic director Jen Cohen has the
firepower to make any kind of move on him yet.
That being said, the best coach on USC's staff and
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the next head coach if they wanted to have success,
is sitting in the building and his name is Matt
and he was the North Dakota State head coach a
couple of years back. He's only their linebacker coach and
his name is being mentioned for like the Fresno job
and some jobs that are floating around out there. So
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
What about the defensive coordinator who has loved a year
ago at UCLA, he.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Looked they were better on defense, but they weren't better
as a team.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
His name is now being floated out there as a
possible DC in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Why stay with Lincoln Riley you see anything moving or changing, No,
not in a positive direction.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You can only get worse for him, right, His defense
doesn't play better next year, the numbers look worse, his
stock goes down.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
There's not a lot to be happy about. So that's
it for now. Fight on to all my former teammates
and all you hardcore Trojan fans like Colin Cowhard. Coming
up next, We've got your dad and a live guy
Birthday of the Day. Tim Kates always makes interesting choices
for the Dead and Alive.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yes, shout out to pms Den, a live guy on X.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's a great X. Follow you right, fantastic, very heady.
We'll be right back with Dead and Alive and we're
going all the way till six point thirty because of
the Clipper game tonight. A big thank you to Tim Kates.
(28:19):
Everybody's Atamano at Tim Kates on X, our co host
today and executive producer of the show tomorrow. We'll be
back on at three o'clock. A big thank you to
Ronnie Fossio at Ronney Fossio on Twitter. He posts the
playlist and don't forget a huge show coming up Thursday.
(28:43):
We are going to Downy two to five pm, one
two to one Stonewood Street at the Stonewood Center corner
of Firestone Boulevard in Lakewood Boulevard, right across the street
from Downey High School.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Can't miss it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Go Viking great drink and food specials, lots of prizes
to pee. You will not be plundered. We will. The
prize closet would be plundered. What prizes tim.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We got Chargers Buccaneers tickets from later in the month.
You can go see Baker Mayfield grab his crotch.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I heard he's suing his father and brother or so
that's unfortunate business stuff they took money from.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well, we had him in only Kate's Cares about forty
five minutes ago. And the whole flag planting thing from
twenty seventeen that he was a part of fail. That's
unfortunate brand. He's suing his fan.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm sure everybody's gonna go back and podcast that story
now early in the hour, yes our three if the
petrol Somebody show about five minutes ten.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Plenty of prizes, got Clipper tickets hopefully you see like
basketball tickets. Go see the best team in the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Go at it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
At poly Pavilion.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Thank you, Jivin tomorrow, just a three to six thirty
show Thursday, Live in Downy from two to five all
Gateway City folks. Everybody, lamarada, Everybody's welcome. We hope to
see you there. We're gonna do a fun fact and
(30:17):
we'll replace some snell and we'll do some tickets in
the very next segment. But right now it's time for
your dead guy birthday of the day. And I don't know.
I don't want to make you scramble for it. Tim, Okay,
but do you have the Vietnam Christmas open? Oh, it
is Vietnam Christmas. Now, this is not directly related to Vietnam.
(30:38):
It could be British News, but this guy was actually
kind of born in like time. British News, United Kingdom,
English News. It's time for British news.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's Vietnamese Christmas too. Christmas people, you don't what.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You know? You have beating out. George McClellan, the General
of the Army of the Potomac and Governor of New Jersey.
One of the generals had a profoundly significant figure in
the Civil War. His wild British writer, not even really British,
(31:16):
Joseph Conrad. And it fits for Vietnam Christmas. And I'll
tell you why, Tom, because Joseph Conrad is linked to
the deepest and darkest of a man's heart. Now, he
was a tri lingual sailor. He traveled the world after
(31:37):
being from the Ukraine or modern day Poland. His father
was a Polish noble and a playwright and a writer,
but very politically radical, and his father was exile oh politics,
and his mom and dad died in exile. So he
lived with an uncle, but became a merchant marine. Out
(31:59):
of marcies. He becomes a sailor running guns, political conspiracy.
Got kind of depressed when into debt tried to shoot
himself in the chest in the age of twenty survived.
Was a very serious and stern and stoic man. He
was on French ships, British ships. That he became an
(32:20):
English superstar writer. And it's a lot to get into
on a sports talk radio show, but by thirty six
he was writing short stories of novels as a brilliant
tri lingual citizen of the world. The book that almost
everybody has to read in the canon of literature in
(32:44):
high school.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, let me get a pin. I'm writing this down.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
The Heart of Darkness. You never nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Not was there a cliff Notes version.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's only about a ninety page book cliff Notes The
Heart of Darkness, which is about deepest, darkest Congo, Africa,
which was a very mysterious place and very interesting to
the English speaking world in that time. A lot of
African discovery, ivory companies and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I gotcha, And.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
That's what it's about. It's about a guy in the
ivory company that goes crazy and creates like a camp
of degradation. And a certain movie by Francis port Coppola
is based on the Heart of Darkness with all the
same names of the characters, but except it's moved to
(33:37):
a military thing and it's moved to one hundred years
later or whatever. Vietnam h Apocalypse now, oh about that.
In fact, the documentary about the movie Apocalypse Now, about
the making of it by Francis port Copola, is called
Parts of Darkness. This is all new to you, it is.
(34:03):
I love it, though, mister Kurtz sound familiar. Yes, all right, Well,
that's the guy. There is a part of Darkness movie
with Malcovich from ninety three that I'm having a hard
time locating, but I saw it a long time ago.
Happy Vietnam Christmas. Not the river in Cambodia but the
Congo River, Marlowe and Kurtz pretty cool, get it? Yeah,
(34:27):
Sheen and Brando. Anyway, that's his most enduring work. Lots
of other stuff. Story set in London and South America,
natural settings, with distinct human individuality and anti heroes. He
died in England in nineteen twenty four. Joseph Conrad.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
What a great dead guy. Petros, thank you. Today's a
live guy. Birthday of the Day. Happy forty third birthday
to Brian Bonsel, actor, musician with local ties here in la.
He was born in Torrance at the age of five.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Like Marky Mark's character in Boogie Knights. Born in Torrance
with his big boots.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
At the age of five, just like him. He was
cast to play the newest member of the Keaton family,
Andrew Keaton, the little brother on Family Ties. Oh, the
Forgotten Keith, the little one. They she got pregnant late
in life, Missus Keaton. Yeah, this is the little kid
they introduced in season.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Three to save the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He made the run all the way through nineteen eighty nine.
In the last season of Family Ties, at the age eleven,
though he was still doing the acting, he was in
a horror film called Mikey, where he played a demonic
young boy who murders his parents then terrorizes his adoptive parents.
They wouldn't play it in the UK. Was so graphic
(35:48):
and so violent. I remember that they said, we're not
playing it. He then got a role for seven seasons
a reoccurring role on Star Trek The Next Generation. He
was Alexander. Oh, I'm a son of the Klingon security
officer Wharf.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
No, I didn't know he was. Did he have a
Klingon face?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yes, yes he did. At the age of twelve, he
was in Fatherhood with Patrick Swayze. A year later, he
was cast as the lead in a Disney movie that
I don't remember but apparently had a very big following
called blank Check. Why are we doing this in nineteen
(36:28):
ninety five?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Is it because you met him somewhere in Burbank like
all these weird child actors of this of this particular, No.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, he got out of acting at the age of fourteen,
said he was done with Hollywood, moved to Boulder, Colorado
with his mom and stepdad. Graduated from Boulder High School
in two thousand, where he was then into punk music.
The band Sunset Silhouette, which you hear right here, he
was the lead singer. He was in multiple bands, so
(36:56):
he went full counter after high school, got all tatted up.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, had some legal issues in two thousand and seven.
In two thousand and nine, something that I'm sure he's
not proud of. Yeah, he was pushing some people, his wife,
female friend.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So he's an abusive child actor who got into punk music.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Twenty ten, he was arrested for weed. It's ten. It's
a Colorado long time ago. He has been clober. He
has been sober and clean since twenty fourteen, married a
young son. He's been in multiple bands right now, though
according to his Wikipedia page and his Instagram, which is
way more active on than he is Twitter, he hasn't
(37:41):
posted on Twitter since twenty twenty. He is now playing
with the band that I remember from the nineteen nineties
called the Ataris Oh. This is one of their songs
they played when they were on Kung fu records called
Sandemus High School Football Rules.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, okay, well that's a Bill and Ted reference. We
can all enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He's not one of the original members of the band
in the nineties. He has since joined them, having tour
with him I think as the one of the bands
under them. He is now part of the Ataris, and
according to his Instagram page, he is still touring with
them here in twenty twenty four and is set to
tour with him throughout the United States in twenty twenty five.
You can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Still you
(38:21):
can also find him on cameo where he is doing
videos for people who still remember him from Blank Check.
I'm telling you this is like the big thing he
was in, not Star Trek, not the fact that he
was on Family Ties. People remember him from the nineteen
nineties and the Disney movie The blank Check.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What's his name?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Brian bonsel Bo nsall a good guy, now wife kid
touring with the Atarish. I mean according to his wiki
and some little digging around on Google Search, seems like
now at the age of forty three today, Happy birthday,
Brian bonsel.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I've been through that. Kates, Thank you child.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Star, Family Ties.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I really appreciate you saying.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That got into music in high school on that show,
on what I remember this? On blank Checker on Family.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Times, I don't remember blank Chats.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I don't remember that either.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Dude, lookout neck tatty.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh he is tatted up and down and all around.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Oh look at a bitch ass klingon Babes. Do you
imagine having to put all that stuff on for a
job the wonder he was.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
The friend the highs and lows of a career in
acting and music.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Talk to me like that, I used to have to
dress up like a kling.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Two thousand and seven, two thousand and nine. Not the
proudest times of his life. Hardship too, But he's rebounded
and according to online search, he's been clean and sober
since twenty and fourteen. So happy forty third birthday to
Brian Bonsel born in Torrents, Family Ties, Child Star. Thank
you now I'm musician, you know, stop saying.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
The same things he did over and over to make
it more important.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I thought it was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
That's not as cool as Joseph Conrad.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Well, agree to disagree, We'll be back. Both of that
impacts on society. I think fun fact and quick hits
and snell Next
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We want you in Downy in two day. Matt and
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final hour. But right now it's time for Only Kate's
(03:43):
Care and now for a segment that I've already lost
interest in before this open is finished, Only Kass.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
A lot of stuff we can get into Petros. Yeah,
it's been a long time since Little occ only Kate's Cares,
But there's two things that are.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Really infused with orange orange co.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do not get confused at all between OCC College and
only Kate's Cares. I wanted to get into UCLA basketball.
In fact, I wrote this whole thing out last night,
some bullet points on what I wanted to hit on
Petros about the lack of attendance at poly Pavilion through
the first five home games average he had about forty
five hundred people. That's it. That's like best case scenario
(04:21):
attendance at these games, tickets sold, not actually how many
people are at poly Pavilion, and really the apathy towards
UCLA basketball that has grown even.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Can you say that there's not an apathy towards UCLA football.
But UCLA basketball has actual expectations and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
At high expectations, Final Four appearance three and a half
years ago, a rebuilt roster, they got one of the
best coaches in college basketball. Money absolutely, Plus it's a
built in on campus arena that's easy to get to
for the students, and I know there's been the Thanksgiving holiday.
I wanted to get into this whole thing about it
because it's really bothering me and I do postgame hero.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I saw the Ben Bulch tweet, yes, where there was
like a real pathetic like role call.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, there's like seven fans there.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That was like literally like it was bad. No.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then the fans that do go to the game.
I'm hearing from people who are at Polly Pavilion, like,
why does Mick Cronin curse so much with the player?
Why is he saying things like he does.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Get over yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean, as long as he gets w's and they're
five and one on the season, whatever they're at right now,
who cares six and one?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Figure out what they are?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You got brewing talk to that's right on AM eleven
to fifty. Besides that, I wanted to get into two
things that really jumped out to me. First, you know
how much I love baseball cards, right yeah, Colin E
and I and the Dodger studio have gone to great
lengths to get every Dodger player on the twenty twenty
four roster, and we built this whole diamond.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So you're not going to talk about the lack of
participation at UCLA. No.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I wanted to get into it. But then I was like,
am I the only one that cares about this. I
believe apparently I am the only one. Well, we'll see tonight,
Big ten play U CLA washing show. Hey o Tani,
we all know what happened with this interpreter Epe meets Ahara. Well,
plead guilty tax fraud. You know everything, the bank fraud.
Back in June, he's got a hey Backotanni. Do we
really know exactly seventeen million dollars? Sure plus he owes
(06:04):
the irs one point one million dollars. He's gonna be
sentenced in January and a federal court after pleading guilty.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That we know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Did you know that before he got busted? Ebe mit
Sahara bought nearly four hundred thousand dollars worth of baseball
cards of Show hey Otani. Ones that were autographed relic cards,
Big item baseball cards, rookie cards from show Ayotani. Nearly
(06:34):
four hundred thousand dollars worth of baseball cards. Part of
his plea deal, he's got to turn over those baseball
cards to show Heyotani himself.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
TONI wants his cards exactly. He just wants the cards
because they were bought with show his money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
By EPA and it's part of the deal. He's got
to pay back the sixteen plus million dollars to him.
This is officially three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars
worth of baseball cards that are in cases that the
federal government currently has in their possession.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But then is gonna turn around and sell him.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't know what he's gonna do. My question, de
Otani is what are you going to do with those?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Show eight?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
If you like, we can put them up in the
studio for display.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We had notice that our baseball card wall is now
quite sparse.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, the season's over. We don't know if certain guys
are going to be back with the Dodgers, like Jack Flaherny.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So who's up there now? There's only four.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We have four Dodger legends currently up on the wall,
and they're old baseball cards, Oral Herscheizer, Steve Sachs, Rick Monday,
and the late great Fernando Valentuela, all broadcasts, all Broder
broadcasters and Dodger greats. We've taken every other card down.
Three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars worth of baseball
cards is a lot of baseball you're asked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
For one from Otani to put on this.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Wall one, two three if he wants to, you know,
donate them, if he wants to put them on display,
and we'll give him back whatever he wants to do.
What is three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars with
the baseball cards to show Heyo Tani? It's nothing, it's
a drop in the bucket to show Heyo Tani. Why
not take those cards and put them on display here
at m FI seven Ela Sports. Now, these cards that
(08:11):
he's going to get back in his possession are worth
a lot, certainly, but they're signing cards. Like we mentioned,
these were all things that were bought off eBay and
bought a card shows from epay and now show hey
who was supposed to go to court in two weeks
against Epay to get his money back. Part of the
deal is these baseball cards will be handed over to
(08:32):
them next month.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did they intentionally wait until the season was over problem
to haul Epay into jail? Is he going to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
January twentieth, I beliek. If this is a sentencing to
yep January twentieth, he is scheduled in court to go
to jail. So Epey stole all the money and now
he's got to pay it back, and he's doing so
in baseball cards currency to show heyot absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Ever since COVID baseball cards are better than real money.
Everybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We all know that, and they continue to get more
and more popular. Check out Burbank Sports Cards here in
Burbank for all your baseball card needs. By the way,
we got another story for got another story for you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You need a wipe, you know, you need like a
shorter version, like a like a real quick anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Baker Mayfield back in the news. He'll be here in
town taking on the Los Angeles Targers in just a
couple of weeks. We got tickets to that game coming
up at Bjay's on Thursday in Downey.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I would never say this if Matt was here. What's
m But I have Baker Mayfield's phone number, do you really? Yeah,
he gave it to me. I never texted him or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Baker Mayfield weighed in on the whole flag planting across
college football over the weekend started it. Yeah, yeah, you
go back to twenty seventeen. Here he is in Columbus
after beating Ohio State twenty sixteen, like they I lost
that home to Ohio State and they did the whole
oh Hio chant at midfield in Norman twenty seventeen Columbus
(09:58):
and upset. Oklahoma gets the win. This is what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, he's not, No, he's not gonna plan at the
midfield or the olas.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wow, yes he is. Looks like the Ohio State band
just come out of those seats up. They didn't like that.
There's no here to defend the house. The band shut out.
I guess the buck guys in the locker room saw
that they might come out and take issue. Now they're
going to dance on the block. THU was surprising. They're
(10:34):
chanting yeah right, and then they disrespect you. This was
their statement.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I did a couple of Oklahoma games that year with.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Baker twenty seven teams. Baker Mayfield planted the flag in
midfield in Columbus. You heard Kirk Curve Street and Chris
Fowler talking about it. Here was Here was Baker after
the game defending kind of what he did, but also apologizing.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Did not mean for it to be disrespectful towards any
Ohio State people at all.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Especially enough the team or the play.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Because they're a great team in a great program. So
I didn't mean it to be disrespectfoot all. I mean,
we do we do the flag thing at OU Texas,
and so that's just something I got caught up in
an emotional win. And you know, yeah, it should have
been something I did in the locker room. So I
apologize for doing it in the middle of the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Field, all right. So Baker Mayfield really got it going
in twenty seventeen. He was asked about it yesterday at
his media availability for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he said, quote,
you take your l and you move on. He said,
Oklahoma and Texas do it every time they play. It's
not anything special. You take the loss, you move on.
I'll leave it at that. College football is meant to
(11:37):
have rivalries. That's like the Big twelve banning the horns
down signal. Just let the boys play.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's what I said yesterday. You go ahead and do
that if you want to. But the guys that lost
the game, get out of there before anybody recognizes you.
Get up the tunnel. You lost.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Some pushback against Baker on social media because this was
the same guy was grabbing his crotch. Oh yeah, in
a game that he played at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Look, he's a competitive guy and he's fiery, and he's saying,
let people be competitive and fiery, but once the game's over,
you don't need to go throwing blows out there, because
you had plenty of times to throw the blows when
the clock was running. One thing Baker Mayfield I did
in my own very personal experience when he was having
that great year the year he planted the flag, they
(12:24):
were playing a Matt Rule team at Baylor, and the
night before the game, Baker Mayfield tweeted something out like, Hey,
your daddy's in town and he's here to spank you.
And the Baylor people were so pissed. And then he
came out for warm ups and he's running around taunting
him in like a cutoffs T shirt in his football pants.
(12:44):
I mean, he drove those people insane. He was kind
of like a ring leader of the tormentors or an
antagonist or an anti hero. So he definitely got under
people's skin as a player in his time in college football.
Great player, but I think the whole organized team brawl
(13:05):
because the flag planting and all that, I think it's
a little much. The whole thing is just kind of stupid.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
The Big Ten has come out today and find both
Michigan and Ohio State one hundred thousand dollars each for
their postgame brawl at the Horseshoe in Columbus. So the
ACC came after their schools. Now the Big Ten has
come down on their two schools. We'll see if the
Big Twelve comes down on Arizona and Arizona State for
(13:32):
their lo.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Now, the whole thing about like uh, planting something too,
like you don't need to do that either, but you
don't have to act all hard if somebody is doing it.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There you go Petro's. That's only Kate cares Again. I
was going to get into UCLA basketball.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
A little bit of apathy has set it here in town.
But the callers on Brewin Talk tonight, will they reverse
that tide.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It'll be plenty of they're going to turn the tide
to night.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
On a eleven fifty Ucla watching it, call Kate's after
game at ten, so he shuts up about it. On
Ani seventy LA Sports, we will continue with a USC
twenty twenty four season recap. A lot of people have
asked about a recap after the Notre Dame game. We
will give you a season recap because USC football is
going to go into hibernation. Maybe they're gonna play in
(14:17):
the sun Ball. I'll get pretty excited about that. But
other than that, it's pretty much over. No championship game
or anything like that will put us se to bed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Next he's the Petros and money show on this to
Hermano Tuesday to two, Hermano two, Edmano, Hermano.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Just go ahead. I'm sorry interrupt.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's a petrol some money show on this awesome Tuesday afternoons.
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
All right, it is time, as promised, for today's top
story of it, Top Story of the day, which is
a USC twenty twenty four recap. Everybody's heard the old
saying close only counts, and horseshoes and hand grenades fight,
don't fight a fight all well. USC football coach Lincoln
Riley spent the balance of this season trying to convince
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Trojan fans that close also counts in football, but he
is wrong. In early November, the USC lost at Washington.
Its record dropped to four and five. They had the
lead in the fourth quarter of all five losses. The
overwhelming storyline of the twenty twenty fourth Trojans is that
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the USC players and coaches kept blowing fourth quarter leads,
and Lincoln Riley's whining after losses was his attempt to
spin the blame away from himself, and he did a
bad job of pushing that story too. The truth was
pretty simple. This season's Trojans finished six and six. They
blew fourth quarter leads in every loss except for Saturday's
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Notre Dame loss.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
How did they blow the losses in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All kinds of different ways. Notre Dame game had its
own fireworks. They actually got close to tying the Irish
with four minutes remaining in the game, but the quarterback
Jade and Mayava threw a pair of pick sixes of
one hundred yards each.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Back to back series.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yes, the US he had a shot in some form
of redemption in its final aim and crashed and burned
in spectacular fashion. Now the last it's been a while.
The last great USC team was two thousand and eight.
Those Trojans were twelve and one, three first round picks
and Mark Sanchez, Brian Cushing, and Clay Matthews. The seven
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seasons from two through two thousand and eight, USC went
eighty two and nine, with two national titles, three Heisman winners,
and seven straight Pac ten titles.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The glory days, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now the seven seasons from twenty eighteen through twenty twenty four,
they've gone forty seven and thirty five with no national titles,
no conference titles and yes, one Heisman winner.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, but you can blame it all on one person, Clayton,
tell you can, and.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm gonna get to the bottom of that. Wait, we're
gonna simplify this because there's a lot that's happened to me.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Simple blame one guy for everything.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, while matching the best seven Pete Carroll years might
not be possible. And I get that winning fifty seven
percent of the games is nowhere near acceptable. And the
problem CAATESE is poor leadership. That's the most consistent thing
about the USC football program. It became the culture at USC,
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and it's become that and it's got to change. The
expectation at USC is that of any other blue blood
If you're a blue blood program, you want to compete
for the national title. But the Trojans aren't even close.
They just finished tied for ninth place in the Big Ten.
And this season was a failure and any value of
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beating an average LSU team and the opener was washed
away with losses to Minnesota and Maryland. You know how
many Big Ten games Maryland won this year? One they
beat USC. And I know about bad football teams. I'm
speaking from experience my senior season, our team was three
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and zeroe and ranked eighth in the nation, and we
ended up five and seven, and we finished in last
place in the Pac ten. Still the only last place
team in USC history.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Congratulations well and it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
This coach has loved to say this year's team played
better defense than last season, but it played worse on offense,
and it played worse on special teams. And it's a
vicious cycle. No momentum was built, and the ball practices
haven't helped the program in Lincoln Riley's first two decembers.
The way I look at it, in twenty twenty two,
(19:48):
the two lane loss was a huge red flag. The
team going one in five to end the twenty twenty
three regular season was a clear sign of Lincoln Riley's
lack of leadership. And now he's going to build the
program back up at USC.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But they didn't have a quarterback the last two seasons.
I mean, they had nobody to relate.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Cayler Williams, as I bring up a few times a
year since USC hired Lincoln Riley, he was not the
architect at Oklahoma. He inherited a championship level program in
Norman and did not sustain it. So linc quit at Oklahoma.
The four Oklahoma quit on him, and now unless the
Chicago Bears hire Lincoln Riley away, he'll be the USC
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coach in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You talk to people at Oklahoma, they're still pissed at him. Yeah, hey, hey,
they haven't regrouped since then. They can't figure out a
way to win.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
No, but USC's not going to fire him, and Oklahoma
now has their own problems with venables. Look at the
people that have made the bad decisions at USC. The
names in no particular order. You want to blame somebody,
it's consistent lack of leadership. School presidents Max Nikias and
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Carol fult Ads, Mike Garrett, Pat Hayden, Lynn Swan, Mike Bone,
coaches Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian Clay Helton, Lincoln Riley. Put
all those names in a bowl, mix them around, and
what comes out is half baked lack of leadership. That
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adds up to fifteen years of dysfunction and only three
good seasons of football have been played by the Trojans
during that stretch.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Can you take sark and Kiffin out of there? Because
they've been successful after leaving USC, so maybe it wasn't
necessarily their faul out of USC.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
First of all, Sark's life imploded at USC, true, and
it was an embarrassment to everybody between him and Pat
Hayden and Lane. Kiffen was fired on a tarmac at USC,
which created this whole tarmac lore. And I don't think
that's all Kiffin's fault. Pat Hayden didn't have to do that.
But I don't think you take them out because the USC,
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they're part of the dysfunction of right at the beginning.
And yeah, they had the sanctions and all that. Kiffins
twenty eleven team was ten and two but not eligible
to play in a bowl. Helton's twenty sixteen team got
into a Rose Bowl on a technicality over a South
Division champion Colorado and they beat Penn State.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Thank you, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, and they finished ten and three. The third good
Trojan team over the last fifteen years was Riley's first
team in twenty twenty two. Lincoln was riding high. Two
years ago today, they were eleven and one. They were
in Las Vegas preparing to play Utah in the PAC
twelve Championship game. They would have clinched a college football
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playoff berth with a victory that night, and USC got
pounded by the Utes, and the Trojans have not been
heard from since. Four weeks later was the previously referenced
embarrassing Cotton Bowl loss to Tule. Following the Pac twelve
championship game lost to Utah, Lincoln Riley made his pompous
quote about how I'll be disappointed if this isn't the
(23:09):
worst team that we've had in our entire tenure here
that was the best. He had the complete wrong read
on what was happening with the program, and it reaked
of him trying to flex on the rest of the
Pac twelve. Fast forward two years, a low level bowl
game awaits the Trojans, and after three seasons under Lincoln Riley,
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I don't think the program's on the rise, and I
don't see any about menim moving into next season.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Look at the foundation going into next year. Who do
they have a quarterback who's going to run the football,
who will be back at the skill positions once they
go into the portal.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What. Once I get a read on it, I'll let
you know, But I mean it's a fluid situation, as
they will tell you, but you see productive players headed
for the portal as far as recruiting signing days to
and Antonio Morales, who covers usc for The Athletic, posted
over the weekend that ten blue chip verbals have decommitted
(24:08):
from the Trojans already.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm sorry you said ten ten, So.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
One guy decommits. I don't even I don't even bat
an eyelash. Sure two nothing, three nothing, four nothing? Five?
Not ten? Maybe something to look at. Lots of valid
questions are still lingering from the regular season, but the
(24:33):
three that I have a really hard time getting passed
are these. After making the move to Jade Mayava quarterback,
how come he didn't run more? What Mayava does best
is extend plays with his legs, supposed to be his strength.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
We saw that against UCLA a little bit. Yeah, one
of the big touchdowns in the second half he created
with his legs.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So why didn't he run more? Why didn't sophomore receiver
returner zac Brand Why did he only score one touchdown
this season?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's one of the most dynamic players in college football.
They tell us.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
First team All Packed twelve as a freshman after scoring
five touchdowns but struggled as a sophomore. Why why couldn't
she use him late in the tie game against Penn State.
Why did Lincoln Riley intentionally drain two minutes off the
clock near midfield in hopes of setting up a fifty
three yard field goal? Why not play for better field
(25:26):
position at a makeable field goal. These are things that
no one's ever going to answer, because he gets really
weird and bristly when somebody asked him an honest question.
But if you're supposed to be an offensive superstar coach,
and you're supposed to understand offense better than anybody out there,
and that's why there's a seventy million dollar buyout, why
(25:48):
haven't you identified the best players on offense to do
what they do best, Like.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Woody Marx the best player on their offense? The running
back coverage is six yards per carry.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Jacobe Lane, guy's got like nine touchdowns but only thirty
five targets. What's going on? You're an offensive genius, but
you don't have defined roles figured out all the way
through the season as the offense got worse and worse
and worse. So will it get better next season? You
tell me there are road games in Illinois, Nebraska, Oregon
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and Notre Dame and Michigan, Iowa and Michigan State travel here.
So it's Northwestern and UCLA. They all come to the Coliseal.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So the schedule gets harder in a year two, right?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I mean, I just don't see. I don't see a
light at the end of the tunnel for Lincoln Riley's
USC football team and your Lincoln Riley's USC program. But
I don't think the athletic director Jen Cohen has the
firepower to make any kind of move on him yet.
That being said, the best coach on USC's staff and
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the next head coach if they wanted to have success,
is sitting in the building and his name is Matt
and he was the North Dakota State head coach a
couple of years back. He's only their linebacker coach and
his name is being mentioned for like the Fresno job
and some jobs that are floating around out there. So
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
What about the defensive coordinator who has loved a year
ago at UCLA, he.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Looked they were better on defense, but they weren't better
as a team.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
His name is now being floated out there as a
possible DC in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Why stay with Lincoln Riley you see anything moving or changing, No,
not in a positive direction.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You can only get worse for him, right, His defense
doesn't play better next year, the numbers look worse, his
stock goes down.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
There's not a lot to be happy about. So that's
it for now. Fight on to all my former teammates
and all you hardcore Trojan fans like Colin Cowhard. Coming
up next, We've got your dad and a live guy
Birthday of the Day. Tim Kates always makes interesting choices
for the Dead and Alive.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yes, shout out to pms Den, a live guy on X.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's a great X. Follow you right, fantastic, very heady.
We'll be right back with Dead and Alive and we're
going all the way till six point thirty because of
the Clipper game tonight. A big thank you to Tim Kates.
(28:19):
Everybody's Atamano at Tim Kates on X, our co host
today and executive producer of the show tomorrow. We'll be
back on at three o'clock. A big thank you to
Ronnie Fossio at Ronney Fossio on Twitter. He posts the
playlist and don't forget a huge show coming up Thursday.
(28:43):
We are going to Downy two to five pm, one
two to one Stonewood Street at the Stonewood Center corner
of Firestone Boulevard in Lakewood Boulevard, right across the street
from Downey High School.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Can't miss it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Go Viking great drink and food specials, lots of prizes
to pee. You will not be plundered. We will. The
prize closet would be plundered. What prizes tim.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We got Chargers Buccaneers tickets from later in the month.
You can go see Baker Mayfield grab his crotch.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I heard he's suing his father and brother or so
that's unfortunate business stuff they took money from.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well, we had him in only Kate's Cares about forty
five minutes ago. And the whole flag planting thing from
twenty seventeen that he was a part of fail. That's
unfortunate brand. He's suing his fan.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm sure everybody's gonna go back and podcast that story
now early in the hour, yes our three if the
petrol Somebody show about five minutes ten.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Plenty of prizes, got Clipper tickets hopefully you see like
basketball tickets. Go see the best team in the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Go at it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
At poly Pavilion.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Thank you, Jivin tomorrow, just a three to six thirty
show Thursday, Live in Downy from two to five all
Gateway City folks. Everybody, lamarada, Everybody's welcome. We hope to
see you there. We're gonna do a fun fact and
(30:17):
we'll replace some snell and we'll do some tickets in
the very next segment. But right now it's time for
your dead guy birthday of the day. And I don't know.
I don't want to make you scramble for it. Tim, Okay,
but do you have the Vietnam Christmas open? Oh, it
is Vietnam Christmas. Now, this is not directly related to Vietnam.
(30:38):
It could be British News, but this guy was actually
kind of born in like time. British News, United Kingdom,
English News. It's time for British news.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's Vietnamese Christmas too. Christmas people, you don't what.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You know? You have beating out. George McClellan, the General
of the Army of the Potomac and Governor of New Jersey.
One of the generals had a profoundly significant figure in
the Civil War. His wild British writer, not even really British,
(31:16):
Joseph Conrad. And it fits for Vietnam Christmas. And I'll
tell you why, Tom, because Joseph Conrad is linked to
the deepest and darkest of a man's heart. Now, he
was a tri lingual sailor. He traveled the world after
(31:37):
being from the Ukraine or modern day Poland. His father
was a Polish noble and a playwright and a writer,
but very politically radical, and his father was exile oh politics,
and his mom and dad died in exile. So he
lived with an uncle, but became a merchant marine. Out
(31:59):
of marcies. He becomes a sailor running guns, political conspiracy.
Got kind of depressed when into debt tried to shoot
himself in the chest in the age of twenty survived.
Was a very serious and stern and stoic man. He
was on French ships, British ships. That he became an
(32:20):
English superstar writer. And it's a lot to get into
on a sports talk radio show, but by thirty six
he was writing short stories of novels as a brilliant
tri lingual citizen of the world. The book that almost
everybody has to read in the canon of literature in
(32:44):
high school.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, let me get a pin. I'm writing this down.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
The Heart of Darkness. You never nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Not was there a cliff Notes version.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's only about a ninety page book cliff Notes The
Heart of Darkness, which is about deepest, darkest Congo, Africa,
which was a very mysterious place and very interesting to
the English speaking world in that time. A lot of
African discovery, ivory companies and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I gotcha, And.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
That's what it's about. It's about a guy in the
ivory company that goes crazy and creates like a camp
of degradation. And a certain movie by Francis port Coppola
is based on the Heart of Darkness with all the
same names of the characters, but except it's moved to
(33:37):
a military thing and it's moved to one hundred years
later or whatever. Vietnam h Apocalypse now, oh about that.
In fact, the documentary about the movie Apocalypse Now, about
the making of it by Francis port Copola, is called
Parts of Darkness. This is all new to you, it is.
(34:03):
I love it, though, mister Kurtz sound familiar. Yes, all right, Well,
that's the guy. There is a part of Darkness movie
with Malcovich from ninety three that I'm having a hard
time locating, but I saw it a long time ago.
Happy Vietnam Christmas. Not the river in Cambodia but the
Congo River, Marlowe and Kurtz pretty cool, get it? Yeah,
(34:27):
Sheen and Brando. Anyway, that's his most enduring work. Lots
of other stuff. Story set in London and South America,
natural settings, with distinct human individuality and anti heroes. He
died in England in nineteen twenty four. Joseph Conrad.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
What a great dead guy. Petros, thank you. Today's a
live guy. Birthday of the Day. Happy forty third birthday
to Brian Bonsel, actor, musician with local ties here in la.
He was born in Torrance at the age of five.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Like Marky Mark's character in Boogie Knights. Born in Torrance
with his big boots.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
At the age of five, just like him. He was
cast to play the newest member of the Keaton family,
Andrew Keaton, the little brother on Family Ties. Oh, the
Forgotten Keith, the little one. They she got pregnant late
in life, Missus Keaton. Yeah, this is the little kid
they introduced in season.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Three to save the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He made the run all the way through nineteen eighty nine.
In the last season of Family Ties, at the age eleven,
though he was still doing the acting, he was in
a horror film called Mikey, where he played a demonic
young boy who murders his parents then terrorizes his adoptive parents.
They wouldn't play it in the UK. Was so graphic
(35:48):
and so violent. I remember that they said, we're not
playing it. He then got a role for seven seasons
a reoccurring role on Star Trek The Next Generation. He
was Alexander. Oh, I'm a son of the Klingon security
officer Wharf.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
No, I didn't know he was. Did he have a
Klingon face?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yes, yes he did. At the age of twelve, he
was in Fatherhood with Patrick Swayze. A year later, he
was cast as the lead in a Disney movie that
I don't remember but apparently had a very big following
called blank Check. Why are we doing this in nineteen
(36:28):
ninety five?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Is it because you met him somewhere in Burbank like
all these weird child actors of this of this particular, No.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, he got out of acting at the age of fourteen,
said he was done with Hollywood, moved to Boulder, Colorado
with his mom and stepdad. Graduated from Boulder High School
in two thousand, where he was then into punk music.
The band Sunset Silhouette, which you hear right here, he
was the lead singer. He was in multiple bands, so
(36:56):
he went full counter after high school, got all tatted up.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, had some legal issues in two thousand and seven.
In two thousand and nine, something that I'm sure he's
not proud of. Yeah, he was pushing some people, his wife,
female friend.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So he's an abusive child actor who got into punk music.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Twenty ten, he was arrested for weed. It's ten. It's
a Colorado long time ago. He has been clober. He
has been sober and clean since twenty fourteen, married a
young son. He's been in multiple bands right now, though
according to his Wikipedia page and his Instagram, which is
way more active on than he is Twitter, he hasn't
(37:41):
posted on Twitter since twenty twenty. He is now playing
with the band that I remember from the nineteen nineties
called the Ataris Oh. This is one of their songs
they played when they were on Kung fu records called
Sandemus High School Football Rules.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, okay, well that's a Bill and Ted reference. We
can all enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He's not one of the original members of the band
in the nineties. He has since joined them, having tour
with him I think as the one of the bands
under them. He is now part of the Ataris, and
according to his Instagram page, he is still touring with
them here in twenty twenty four and is set to
tour with him throughout the United States in twenty twenty five.
You can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Still you
(38:21):
can also find him on cameo where he is doing
videos for people who still remember him from Blank Check.
I'm telling you this is like the big thing he
was in, not Star Trek, not the fact that he
was on Family Ties. People remember him from the nineteen
nineties and the Disney movie The blank Check.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What's his name?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Brian bonsel Bo nsall a good guy, now wife kid
touring with the Atarish. I mean according to his wiki
and some little digging around on Google Search, seems like
now at the age of forty three today, Happy birthday,
Brian bonsel.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I've been through that. Kates, Thank you child.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Star, Family Ties.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I really appreciate you saying.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That got into music in high school on that show,
on what I remember this? On blank Checker on Family.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Times, I don't remember blank Chats.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I don't remember that either.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Dude, lookout neck tatty.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh he is tatted up and down and all around.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Oh look at a bitch ass klingon Babes. Do you
imagine having to put all that stuff on for a
job the wonder he was.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
The friend the highs and lows of a career in
acting and music.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Talk to me like that, I used to have to
dress up like a kling.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Two thousand and seven, two thousand and nine. Not the
proudest times of his life. Hardship too, But he's rebounded
and according to online search, he's been clean and sober
since twenty and fourteen. So happy forty third birthday to
Brian Bonsel born in Torrents, Family Ties, Child Star. Thank
you now I'm musician, you know, stop saying.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
The same things he did over and over to make
it more important.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I thought it was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
That's not as cool as Joseph Conrad.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Well, agree to disagree, We'll be back. Both of that
impacts on society. I think fun fact and quick hits
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