February 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Number, Word and Song of the Day. The Athletic Lakers Insider Jovan Buha on what is next for LeBron James and the Lakers. Secret Textoso Roundup
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
I wonder what Booja is gonna say. Boja is not
as scare, No, he is not. Do you think he's
gonna go with Ron? Didn't know that? Well, there's but
it's not just Lebron didn't know it's Lebron didn't know
because Jeanie did him dirty. It's Lebron didn't know because
Nosferatu came over everybody on the top of that him dirty,
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or it's Lebron's behind all of it, and he did a.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
D dirty someone dot gun someone done, got done. There's
no chance, there was zero percent chance this trade happens
without Lebron had a minimum giving his approval.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And and maybe you know, maybe a little bit of
a little bit of show up.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Un f and lie clown fresh flowers, lyon clown cap.
We will talk to Boja. We talked to Ari. We
are gonna talk yes, and David Massy will join us
in about an hour and a half. Because Yesterday's or
Saturday's dodger Fest was an absolute home run.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, I didn't mention that. I listened to the whole thing. Yeah,
I took off at eleven and I listened to When
I landed, he was just saying goodbye to show hal Tani.
It was awesome to have that on the plane. I
hate to overstate things, and Vassa is annoying. I mean,
I love Vassa, but he sent a tweet when like
Lebron had a good game in New York.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like a pashit what we're listening. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah
he's not allowed to because every no, because everything that
Lebron has done is wrecked everything. It sucks, and it's
made everything suck.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Davids, Dave had a magic Johnson jersey and his foyers,
and what has it done for the first thing you saw?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Almost nothing for him his wife rightfully, most importantly though,
I listened to that thing too, and the three hour
Dodger fan fest was remarkable. I mean, you just don't
like Freddy Freeman sitting there talking about how his kid
is walking and how the swelling and his ankle wasn't
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going away over Thanksgiving and what his plan was to
get back and how exactly he was going to be
ready for Tokyo. Like, it was remarkable the way these
guys open up, not to mention the Blake Snell ball
wash and the Otawi stuff. Otani was great, says he's
gonna throw the ball off Dave's head in the backfield.
I mean, just very bad. It's crazy that, you know,
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you get these guys sitting there and no one ever
sits there and tells reporters that they love them, it
just doesn't happen. And whatever Dave's Vassay's relationship has been
with these players, this era of the Dodgers for over
a decade. Now it is remarkable. He's not allowed to
like the Lakers, but what he's done is remarkable. It
is now time for the word of the day, his words,
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the word of the day. A vote for these lebron
Lakers is a vote against the real Lakers. Speaking of that,
we see that who's a real trojan? Matt? I've always
been called not a real trojan? Sometimes? What is a
real man of Troy? Who is John Gulf?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Today's word of the days is orical question?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, a good indicator of what USC football is like
under the sensitive and very elusive Lincoln Riley from our
friends Scott Wolfe's blog, and Scott seems to have an
innate ability to cut to the quick of what's wrong
with the personality of the program in any given time.
(04:37):
Disregarding Lincoln Riley's disdain for USC's overall tradition, now without tradition,
what is USC.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
TCU?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
In many ways You're right, but an older stadium, a
more problematic area, and a whole lot of money but
without the history of you see football, what is it? Really?
There's nothing there. Lincoln Raleigh's disdain for us, He's tradition
seems to kind of shine through and his attitude, starting
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with his lukewarm approach to the Notre Dame game and
so on. But according to Wolf, this was interesting.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
That's that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
A former staffer said that Lincoln Riley was against hosting
recruiting dinners with great players from USC's past. Of course,
a long practice at most schools, especially schools like USC
with a long story tradition.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Why would you want to lean into that?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And you have guys like you know, Ryan Colleen and
his brother and Sua, all these guys that want to
be around, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Guys have been in the NFL for a decade.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Guys that have Matt Grittygood and all America. I mean,
there's people that would be around. So Wolf's service, I mean,
source said at the recruiting staff. The recruiting services gently
respectfully said to Lincoln, well, it's a good thing to
have former grades show up at recruiting functions. This is
something we'd like to encourage. Lincoln's response, according to Wolf, source, okay,
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but tell him not to talk about the Pete.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Carroll Ara, come on, come on, And.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Of course Scott Wolf thinks that's a terrible attitude, and
of course it is a terrible attitude.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Tell him not to talk about one of the greatest
eras of USC football.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Now, look, when I played at USC, it was a
different time. We weren't dominant, though we had dominant type
players and plenty of guys who were dominant pro football players.
But Ronnie Lott, former USC star, would come and talk
to us, and it didn't always end pretty. Sometimes he'd
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come in March. You know, you're little ways away from
putting on pads for real, long ways away, you know,
especially in a young person's life, from putting your hand
in the ground against Notre Dame, you know, in the
coming season, and Ronnie Lott would sit there and strut
around and tell, you know, everybody that he was gonna
knock him out, and you better knock these m efforts.
And then, you know, after forty minutes or something, John
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Robbins will be oh, you know, and then like we
had Paul Hackett, you know, who had a really close
relationship with Marcus Allen because he was his coach at
Kansas City as coordinator, and Marcus Allen then would start
coming and talking to the team. And you know, after
forty minutes of telling us how he figured out zone
blitz in the NFL, you know, sometime in like August,
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you know, we okay, Ronnie, you know, okay, thank you, Marcus.
You know. So, I mean there's a fine line here,
like I understand.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Pretty cool to have Ronnie Lott and Marcus Allen in
the room.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I'm still telling those stories these Yeah, it was cool
for the first five minutes. Yes, and now, like snack
is getting cold, we want we don't want to want
to hear about you know, how Barry word took your
carries and Harvey Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, I mean, you get what I'm saying. You
had to see it coming Mark.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But this is a bigger problem because Lincoln Riley doesn't
seem to understand coaching USC football and what that entails
at all. I mean, Steve Sarkisian did better than him,
he's from the area. Lane Kiffin did better than him,
and he's from the area. And both of those guys
had personal absolute crash and burn meltdowns into the mess
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exploded lives. When they coached at USC, they did a
better job. Clay Helton, believe it or not, did a
much better job with USC tradition and anything about USC
than Lincoln Lincoln Riley. He can't recruit the area or
won't recruit the area. He seems as them. He seems
to be the most insecure coach that the university has
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ever had, and it is this is a shocking story.
Tell him not to talk about the Pete Carroll era.
So if Reggie Bush is sitting across from me, I
can't be like, hey, what was it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like, you know, don't talk about it. I can't talk
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What are we supposed to talk about the Clay Helton era?
That one time at o Jeron was the interim and
everybody was geeked up for like three weeks. Like these
are the type of stories that come out of USC
with Lincoln Riley, not a man of the community, not
endearing himself to USC football. USC football is under the
biggest financial weight and the biggest burden and the most
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unsolvable problem that they may ever have faced in their
history with this terrible Lincoln Riley Connyer deal, right, ten
year deal, He's three years in and there's a it's
one hundred million dollars overall to get out of it
with him and all his assistants and to remove that
entire pussy mass from palace. Verdi's estates in south central
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Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, well only eight more years, seven more, seven more years, right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah. Who's the running back that was playing for a
while with Tampa Bay just recently? The USC running back
fast guy played in the Clay Hilton era.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I know you're talking about, and I can't rob If.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He wants to come, we can't have him. We don't
want to shod something like that. But I'll talk to him.
We talk about the Pete Carrole Ara shot White. No,
that's a guy for Arizona State. Ronald Jon Jones. There
you go, Ronald Jones wants to come and talk about
Pete Carroll aira. He wants to talk about the Clay Hilton.
There we all right. It's O with the number of
the day.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Here's my number.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Number of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Number of the day is one. So my flight was
at seven forty yesterday. I left this out of how
was your weekend? Because I would love to lean on
the text though, so to see if anybody else had
the same experience I had last night.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, you're very travel oriented this time of year, Matt. Yeah,
you lose you're a Chargers charter and you become you know,
Tom Hanks who lives at the airport and brushes his teeth.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I did on one whistle say penalty, so I had
to get the football out of my system and a
file excuse me, foul not a penalty the whistle.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
There, Well, they could be in the penalty.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I wish I could remember the name of the place
where I was, but it's not listed here under theflyoard
dot com places to eat. It was a pizza place
that had a bar. I'm sitting at the bar. I
order my Goose Island ipa. I order a Margarite a
pizza because I've got two hours and forty minutes from
the time I arrived until my flight takes off. And
on the three televisions in front of me to the
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left sixty minutes center is ESPN, which is running a
thirty for thirty on a boomer Assias and Son very
sad story. And then directly in front of me is
the CNN Tear in the Sky special.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh let's go legacy, triple threat, legacy media right in
your face.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So directly in front of me as I look to
my right out the window at United Terminal one B
and c con.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They have that deal with CNN. You know, they keep
the CNN going in all the air keeps CNN going on.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And CNN is running not just coverage of the tragic
crash between the Blackhawk helicopter and the American Airlines flight
from Wichita or Reagan National, which they're showing over and
over and over again. Yeah, but they are also sharing
some of America's worst air disasters. Oh, soritos. Yeah, let's
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go in the airport, let's enjoy that. Let's talk about
this DC ten crashing in San Diego, seventy souls lost.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know who loves that stuff, Old submarine monitoring Kates.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, the Kates is a bit of a nervous flyer too.
I don't think he would want to sit in the
bar at the airport watching deeply crisis orient at.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
A home, it's one thing, but sitting at a bar
and criminal b.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No, I didn't say anything, because I did you just
lock in with sixty minutes, But I did I was watching.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I was watching the sixty minutes. But I found it
another great story. I found it humorous because everybody that
would look, I would see their reactions because I'm there
for an hour and a half, and when they would
sit down, they'd look and they'd be like, yeah, well,
and then no one would say anything, and it would
stay on, and it was on the entire I was
there for over an hour.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like, do they have like when you're at Natsberry Farm
in line? Do they have like roller coaster accidents over
the years.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
They're showing the flight from or from China or Korea
that crashed in San Francisco and caught on fire to
that one, and yeah, that was that was pre flight
programming right there, add o haare nobody working for the
establishment realizing that that's what CNN was running, Perhaps maybe
they should change the channel, considering, oh, this isn't breaking news.
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This is a airline disaster special on CNN that is
running right now.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Hey, aren't we on in all the airports? Yeah? Why
do you say? Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Just SAT's kind of do a two hour block here
of worst airline crashes in American recent history. Is what
we're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Are gonna be their highest rating the airports. Oh yeah, Kate,
this is a song of the day.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Today's song of the Days called Muscle Rock is a
Horse and transition a complex tune from legendary nor Cal
Indie rock band Pavement because it is an I'm a Horse.
Monday on the Petros and Money Show, where we transition
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David Vasse Talk and Dodger Baseball and recapping that excellent
dodge Your Fest that took place this past Saturday, and
that's coming up for your listening enjoyment at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Are you ready? I thought it was Case was discussing
his appreciation for the crisis shows.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Not while he's in the airport or in a submarine.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We'll be right back with Jovan Booha going till seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Then David Veasse will be along for off season Dodger Talk,
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Speaker 3 (15:40):
Who's behind the Trade Silver Clutch Paleika more questions and
answers and here to help us. Man embedded with the
team working for the Athletic Jovan Booha one of the best.
We love having him on. You see him on Spectrum
Sports Net as well. Booha knows stuff and he's not
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afraid to say things and he joins us on the
Southern California Toyota Diner Celebrity Hotline. Booha, what was your
original reaction when you heard the trade was going down?
Did you believe that it was a falsehood?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I thought Sean's got hacked. I was at MSG
in the press room. It was myself as well as
the three other traveling Lakers beat writers, and we all
thought it was fake. None of us believed it, and
that once it was conferred that it was colleague texting
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people frantically and going out into the hallway to try
and get information and it was just a circus. But yeah,
at first I did not believe it, and honestly, I
can say a couple days later I still barely believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We saw the you know, thanks to social media and
cameras being on players at all times or anything at
all times. We saw the instant reaction of Kevin Durant,
which was entertaining to see how someone would react to
something like that. Since you were at MSG, how would
you describe the atmosphere around you, the disbelief, the idea
that one of the two or three best players in
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the NBA could be moved to the Lakers of all places?
What did it kind of? What was the immedia I
don't want to say fall up, but what was the
immediate reaction that you felt.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, so it did happen Eastern time. It was about
twelve fifteen in the morning, so there was only like
five of us in the press room. Everyone had cleared out,
So don't have any any juicy scenes of like what happened,
But it was pretty wild because about an hour earlier,
the Lakers just pulled off one of their best wins
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of the season, beating the Knicks at MSG without Anthony Davis,
and they had won eight of ten games. They were
a game back of the number four seed, and it
felt like this group was finally having some positive momentum
and kind of stabilizing and like finding this identity that
within an hour of their best or second best win
of the season in my opinion, Like, they trade Anthony
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Davis and it completely pivot and the Lebron ad era. So,
I mean, this is one of the most shocking trades
in NBA history. A player like Luca Doncis just does
not get traded at twenty five, still on his second contract,
Like it's just I still can't believe it. But the
Lakers continue to Laker. Laker exceptionalism is alive and well,
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and the Lakers got their their golden parachute into the
next era of Laker basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
So those of us that were led to believe that
this was Anthony Davis's team, what happens to us.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Now, Well, it was for a little bit, and then
now it's Luka Doncic's team. The Lakers are firmly on
the Luca Dontrich timeline.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
How does that affect Lebron James because he publicly said
this is a D's team, he's the you know, he's
the lead dog. Now he said that, but you know,
I don't know if if I mean, you tell me
whether or not you agree with that. That that's how
it appeared in the game's waning moments, with the game
in the balance. Was it really Anthony Davis's team or
was it still Lebron's team? Luka Doncic is a you know,
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Lebron's playing really good basketball, but he ain't Luka Doncic.
So how does how does all that balance out?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, like this version of Lebron obviously is not right,
That's what I mean. But I think it's it's gonna
be interesting to see how they manage the basketball fit
because the one thing with these two guys is, you
know that that Spider Man meme of the two Spider
Man twenty at each other, Like that's basically these two
guys in terms of like Lucas has modeled his game
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after Lebron in many ways, and there's some obvious physical
differences between the two. Lebron is at a completely different
level athletically, even at forty compared to Luca at twenty five.
But the blend of the size, the playmaking the basketball IQ,
the way they can manipulate games, and just that really unprecedented,
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you know, both scoring and passing ability, just with that
skill set, Like it's it's really Lebron Luca and I
don't even know who else I would put in that
conversation like at that size. So in the scenario that
they've been in Lebron in Miami with Dwayne Wade, Lebron
in Cleveland with Kyrie, Lebron in LA with Anthony Davis,
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and then Luca in Dallas with Kyrie, They've always been
the batman. They've always been the number one option, and
it's been the other star or stars having to adjust
to them and take a step back and reduce their
usage and kind of change the way that they play.
This is the first time that these two can look
at their co star and say, like, you can basically
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do everything I can do. And of course Lebron is
no longer the player he used to be and he
can't quite do it at the level that Luca can
currently do it at. But still like the way that
they can manipulate a defense with their passing and some
of the reads they can make. Really only like these
two guys can do that, and that to me is
like an interesting kind of wrinkle within just how do
they adjust that. I do expect Luca to be the
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primary ball handler at the point guard and to you,
for the Lakers to adjust the offense more to him
and to have a nice two man game there between
Lebron and Luca where either one can can handle the
ball and screen for the other one. And I think
that's going to be a lethal two men game. But
this might be the first time in Lebron's career that
actually adjusts to a star in a dramatic way and
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kind of takes more of a back seat. So it's
never really happened before. It's again always been the other
players having to adjust more to him.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But I do think it can work.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I think both guys are skilled, talented, and gifted enough
to figure this out. But I do think there's going
to be a learning period for sure, and certainly some
trial and error.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well it's not like it's halfway through the season or anything.
Ya bought Boja joining us right now on the Petrosen
Money Show. We're always happy to have him. Now, I'm
not asking you to put on like an aluminum hat
and go run around Area fifty one. But if the
MAVs wanted to trade Luca, couldn't they done a lot
better than this? Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I mean, there's been a lot of reporting on it,
but none of it is really quite stuck with me,
you know, in my opinion just kind of reading the situation,
I mean, they really seem to have given up on
Luca and are making a huge bet against him, which
is I think arguably the most shocking part of this
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entire situation is like Dallas had an up close look
and this guy just took them to the final last
season and they were the number four seed when he
got injured around Christmas time, Like he was having a
good year. They were having a good year, and then
something has shifted in the past like a month and
a half where you know, maybe they had some of
these feelings that had been building, but like they decided
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in early January, let's start shopping him to the Lakers
and try to trade him.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So, I mean, it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Doesn't quite make sense to me, Like it kind of
feels like sometimes there's a breakup, one side tries to
get out and set the narrative, and I feel like
with Dallas, I mean, they've gotten flamed for this trade.
It's rightfully so that the fan base is like, we're
vaulting right now at the American Airlines Center, and they
I think they kind of tried to get out ahead
of it and say, well, wait and conditioning and leadership
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and we have all these concerns, but like, no one's
really buying it. Everyone views Luca as at worse the
top five player, if not a top three player. He
should be getting the Supermax whenever he's eligible for it,
and like it just it's mind boggling that they gave
up on this guy. But I mean for the Lakers,
of course, I think your intendor should be a little
up of like why were they willing to trade this guy?
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And I think you have to have an appropriate level
of maybe some caution. But at the end of the day,
you know, I was talking to it to a source
and they were just like, what is this guy the
second or third best player in the lead, Like, I
think we will take that guy. So I think for
the Lakers that you just came down to you make
this trade ten out of ten times, you figure it
out on the fly, as I think they're going to do,
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and You're now set up for the next NSH years
with Luka Donci as the face of your franchise.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, they'll immediately hand him a MAX deal two hundred
whatever they can't off him. I don't know, one hundred
million dollars less than what the Mavericks could. But however
much they can off him, they will and what kind
of position because you know, the whole Lebron didn't know.
They didn't run it by him. That's that's the other
sort of side conversation around all of this. And you know, Yovan,
I look at it and I'm like, Okay, well, now
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the Lakers are in an fu position. Hey, we got
a bigger star than you. We've got a guy that
will sell season tickets out moving forward, year after year
after year. We don't have to play the clutch sports
game anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You can agree or disagree with whether or not they
were forced to do that because of how Lebron operates.
I personally think they did, and I think it probably
chapped their asses a little bit. And this definitely gives
them a different level, a different position of power because
face you know, whether people might agree or not, he's
a bigger star, like he is twenty five and an
MVP candidate year in and year out moving forward.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, no, I'm largely in agreement with you, Like I think,
I don't think they made this trade specifically to get
out of the Clutch business or to lessen Clutch's power
or stranglehold within the organization. But I do think it's
an ancillary benefit for them. Like I think again, at
the end of the day, regardless of who is stepped by,
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regardless of how much they loved Anthony Davis or believed
in him, he is six years older than Luka Doncic,
and Luka Doncic is already a better player. So like,
if you're projecting out who's going to be better in
twenty twenty eight, who's going to be better in twenty
thirty one, the answer is Luca, like firmly, And there's
really put a bit there, like barring him, you know,
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suffering like a career, any injury or something like, he
is is going to be better than Anthony Davis over
the next six to seven years, because he's already better
than Anthony Davis. So I think for the Lakers, like
that was the the real like reason behind the deal.
Now to your point, like I think, what once Lebron
retires and whether that's a Laker or not, Like I
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do still think that the way things are looking, it
will be as a Laker, most likely next season. But
whether it's as a Laker or eventually leaving elsewhere, I
think once that happens, like they will ultimately then be
moving on from the whole Clutch situation.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And who knows, maybe there's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Another star that's a clutch star that ends up going
there and you know that that relationship is a bit mended.
But I do think really dating back to the Russell
Westbrook trade, like you can kind of point some of
the tension that's been there the last few years to that,
and like the thing I always say, and I'm not
trying to defend you know, Clutch or Lebron or ad
(26:52):
by by any means what Like I would argue that
they have not gotten what they've wanted for quite a while.
Like you can't point to Bronny and drafting him and
signing him, Yes, but the opportunity cost of that was
he's making less than a normal VET minimum player. So
the late like we could debate whether he should be
on the roster or not but the Lakers are actually
(27:12):
saving money comparing to having a VET minimum player like
on the roster. And yes that that was obviously to
benefit Lebron, But if Lebron had his way with this roster,
they would have traded for Kyrie Irving, they would have
traded for Jeantey Murray, they would have traded for Zach Lvine.
He's wanted a third all star level guy for years
since the Westbrook trade and they haven't done it. Ady
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would have been playing power forward next to a good center.
They have not done it. They've signed nothing about VET
minimum centers. Eighty wanted James Barrego as the coach, not
JJ Redick. They went and got JJ Redick. So like
they have not really done what Lebron and eighty have
wanted for for years now that they shipped that, you know,
they don't tell them about this trade that they ship
out ad just you know, blindly. And now Lebron he's
(27:56):
kind of in a position where it's like, do you
want to be here or not? But either way we're
kind of moved forward. So I think it was more
of a like a SI and kind of benefit to it,
But at the end of the day, it was like,
we can get a top three player who's twenty five,
and we can have him for the next seven to
ten years, Like we're going to do that. So I
think that was the main part behind it, but certainly
(28:17):
Lakers gained a lot more power within the whole clutch
dynamic in the last like forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Wow, it's gonna put Lebron in a bad mood. Good
luck to you. Boo hac Press Crafts, Luca Lebron Man,
it's gonna be in a bad mood. All right, we
love you. Booh great, Josh, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Talk soon.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
The athletic Yovann Bouja, great work. We'll be right back
with some reaction. React. I swear to god, Creighton has
that point guard who looks like Ed Norton at this age,
like on the head of a little white guy banked
in a three to beat Villanova. The worst thing I've
ever seen in my life happened. I tuned on f
(29:00):
S one and I saw Seth Davis sitting there on
f S one. Uh huh. And I texted somebody. I
was like Seth Davis. They're like, yeah, he's with us.
A couple of weekends CBS, so he uses them for
the tournament. Why not a fan?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I just left it at that. Yeah, I leave
him unopen. He's the kid, say yeah, just leave it,
leave unopen.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Not a fan. I should have just sent the straight face.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Oh that's a good one too. I love the straight face.
I've been a long proponent of the straight face.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You guys always forget about Seth Davis for the State
of Hate.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I mean, he doesn't even.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Know it's listen. State hate is not on us, Kates,
it's on you.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
He doesn't live here. Seth Davis don't know us, but
his father, Lannye Davis, he hates us.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well, Seth did send us his book to promote, and
we refuse.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well, I believe he's publishing company.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No Seth personally.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He did his at Tim Neffett style book Push.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yes, you know you can put me on, you can
interview me, and we can give away five copies outside
of them.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We'll be back with.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Next hour. We'll hear from David Vassa following Dodger Fest
this past Saturday noon to three, recap some of the
stuff he talked about in case you missed it, and
give you a preview of what is coming tonight at
seven pm, as it is an off season Dodger Talk night.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Well, who knows? I mean, are you on team Slovenian Mafia?
Are you on team uh Clutch Sports? Like Booja kind
of sounded like, are you on team no Sparatu for
trying to save his league and his vampiric ways.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's worked for the night. I'm back blah headline on
sports and.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Very I mean, are you on team Lebron? No?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, that team We're definitely not on. But you can
be on team not Lebron, Like, hey, they didn't on
it by Lebron.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's what I'd like to believe.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
They're talking to Lebron, like, hey, Golden State really wants
you man more questions and answers. Who did who did this?
And what will happen to Papa?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Do you think we'll get answers tomorrow at nine am
at the press conference.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's possible. Are we gonna run it? We'll have the
press conference that a Tom Monell keel over and just
flip it to the right as Colin gets hit and
like the like the uh the triple option? Right, his
Colin gets hit by the end, he's gonna flip it
out to the press conference to be caught by Lawrence
Phillips on the edge. All right with us? No, didn't
(31:34):
I have some text tosos for you.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Fine, brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We make it easy. Mike Rozier out there, Okay. How
come musicians shout out Compton but not Guardina or Carson?
I agree, sir. I think Guardina and Carson are Compton
adjacent and deserve shoutouts, and they don't get him. Most
of the NBA's NWA stuff, excuse me, was all recorded
(32:02):
in Torrents Guardina, Jason, where's the love? My vote is
no sparatus, Dark magic and rage from ratings drop was
the cause for Luca. Yeah, dark magic and rage.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm with them.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well, doesn't that have to simultaneously be happening while Luca
has worn out his welcome through his Slovenian Slovenly ways.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I think Dallas people forget there's a long play here, Luke.
Over the next two years, you're gonna make an NBA final,
You're going to be second in MVP voting, but you're
going to gain weight through the bottle all right, you're
going to gain weight through the bottle.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You think he's gonna fall to the bottle on Sunset Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's what you're gonna do. No, that's that was the
setup for this trade to ls Oh, so I can
save my league. This is the Adam Silver machinations behind it.
So you got to act like you're a drunk like
the drunken Master. Years. Yes, two years, you're the drunken Master.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
You know your theory.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I star just sent.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I believe your theory at first, Matt, Now and now
it's starting to feel more and more far fetched. I'm
tired of you speaking so authoritatively. And that's drink. I
asked real questions and I get down to the foundation
of the building and there's nothing there.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's just silt.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Oh. This is a text from about Kate's's weekend. It's quotes.
It says the team got boat raced, but my kids
scored five goals, so that's okay. Kates is following the
Cam Newton parentee. Yeah, the Rams are trying to trade
Cooper Cup. He's very upset about it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Still got the beard trended down? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Trade coming? That beard might fly in LA. I won't
fly in any other football.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
He just released a statement on social media saying that
the Rams have informed him they're gonna trade him and
they're gonna help him find a landing spot.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Okay, Now this comes from a Petrosen money fan who,
much like Vassa, does not have permission to ride for
the Lakers. It says Ad is the most injury prone,
whiny bitch that's ever won a Laker uniform, ridden to
the center, that refused to play center ps the Bubble
Championship does not count.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well, Ambick says, give them their flowers that seem to
all be overlooked following the trade. You know, he is
one of the ten best, maybe fifteen, maybe eight best player,
MVP level defensive player of the year, a perfect match
with Kyrie. Okay, I don't feel like that's what you're
saying about Ad for the last four years. Injury prone
street close.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
The best tweet was from the NBA Twitter and it said,
Who's stopping this duo? There was a picture of Kyrie
and Ad and MAVs uniforms and somebody tagged it arthritis.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, I do believe Kyrie Herving is dealing with a
back issue right now. Oh legitimately, I think there's like
a disc issue that doesn't scream Jack Flarity.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Congratulations to Blackjack Flarity.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I got that two year deal in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Did you just say black Jack Flarity.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
At the end?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Not Tuesday, It is somewhere here. Is in Australia, Oh
block Jack because he's a dealer.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a big dog there, mate. Get
your camera out.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Of my face. I will talk more about the arrival
of the Slovenian Mafia. Some industries that could be affected.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I hope they burn you with their David Off cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
If you're going to the Press of tomorrow, take a
Zippo light somebody's cigarette. You'll immediately ingratiate yourself to this
new regime of superstartup.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know, we noticed a lot more smoking around the facility.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, I know. We embraced that. We've got a new
superstar in town.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Vlade devons is sending down a cart and we've missed
them of Belmont's. We'll be back more great sports stop.
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
I wonder what Booja is gonna say. Boja is not
as scare, No, he is not. Do you think he's
gonna go with Ron? Didn't know that? Well, there's but
it's not just Lebron didn't know it's Lebron didn't know
because Jeanie did him dirty. It's Lebron didn't know because
Nosferatu came over everybody on the top of that him dirty,
(01:22):
or it's Lebron's behind all of it, and he did a.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
D dirty someone dot gun someone done, got done. There's
no chance, there was zero percent chance this trade happens
without Lebron had a minimum giving his approval.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And and maybe you know, maybe a little bit of
a little bit of show up.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Un f and lie clown fresh flowers, lyon clown cap.
We will talk to Boja. We talked to Ari. We
are gonna talk yes, and David Massy will join us
in about an hour and a half. Because Yesterday's or
Saturday's dodger Fest was an absolute home run.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, I didn't mention that. I listened to the whole thing. Yeah,
I took off at eleven and I listened to When
I landed, he was just saying goodbye to show hal Tani.
It was awesome to have that on the plane. I
hate to overstate things, and Vassa is annoying. I mean,
I love Vassa, but he sent a tweet when like
Lebron had a good game in New York.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like a pashit what we're listening. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah
he's not allowed to because every no, because everything that
Lebron has done is wrecked everything. It sucks, and it's
made everything suck.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Davids, Dave had a magic Johnson jersey and his foyers,
and what has it done for the first thing you saw?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Almost nothing for him his wife rightfully, most importantly though,
I listened to that thing too, and the three hour
Dodger fan fest was remarkable. I mean, you just don't
like Freddy Freeman sitting there talking about how his kid
is walking and how the swelling and his ankle wasn't
(03:04):
going away over Thanksgiving and what his plan was to
get back and how exactly he was going to be
ready for Tokyo. Like, it was remarkable the way these
guys open up, not to mention the Blake Snell ball
wash and the Otawi stuff. Otani was great, says he's
gonna throw the ball off Dave's head in the backfield.
I mean, just very bad. It's crazy that, you know,
(03:29):
you get these guys sitting there and no one ever
sits there and tells reporters that they love them, it
just doesn't happen. And whatever Dave's Vassay's relationship has been
with these players, this era of the Dodgers for over
a decade. Now it is remarkable. He's not allowed to
like the Lakers, but what he's done is remarkable. It
is now time for the word of the day, his words,
(03:54):
the word of the day. A vote for these lebron
Lakers is a vote against the real Lakers. Speaking of that,
we see that who's a real trojan? Matt? I've always
been called not a real trojan? Sometimes? What is a
real man of Troy? Who is John Gulf?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Today's word of the days is orical question?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, a good indicator of what USC football is like
under the sensitive and very elusive Lincoln Riley from our
friends Scott Wolfe's blog, and Scott seems to have an
innate ability to cut to the quick of what's wrong
with the personality of the program in any given time.
(04:37):
Disregarding Lincoln Riley's disdain for USC's overall tradition, now without tradition,
what is USC.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
TCU?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
In many ways You're right, but an older stadium, a
more problematic area, and a whole lot of money but
without the history of you see football, what is it? Really?
There's nothing there. Lincoln Raleigh's disdain for us, He's tradition
seems to kind of shine through and his attitude, starting
(05:13):
with his lukewarm approach to the Notre Dame game and
so on. But according to Wolf, this was interesting.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
That's that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
A former staffer said that Lincoln Riley was against hosting
recruiting dinners with great players from USC's past. Of course,
a long practice at most schools, especially schools like USC
with a long story tradition.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Why would you want to lean into that?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And you have guys like you know, Ryan Colleen and
his brother and Sua, all these guys that want to
be around, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Guys have been in the NFL for a decade.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Guys that have Matt Grittygood and all America. I mean,
there's people that would be around. So Wolf's service, I mean,
source said at the recruiting staff. The recruiting services gently
respectfully said to Lincoln, well, it's a good thing to
have former grades show up at recruiting functions. This is
something we'd like to encourage. Lincoln's response, according to Wolf, source, okay,
(06:17):
but tell him not to talk about the Pete.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Carroll Ara, come on, come on, And.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Of course Scott Wolf thinks that's a terrible attitude, and
of course it is a terrible attitude.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Tell him not to talk about one of the greatest
eras of USC football.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Now, look, when I played at USC, it was a
different time. We weren't dominant, though we had dominant type
players and plenty of guys who were dominant pro football players.
But Ronnie Lott, former USC star, would come and talk
to us, and it didn't always end pretty. Sometimes he'd
(06:57):
come in March. You know, you're little ways away from
putting on pads for real, long ways away, you know,
especially in a young person's life, from putting your hand
in the ground against Notre Dame, you know, in the
coming season, and Ronnie Lott would sit there and strut
around and tell, you know, everybody that he was gonna
knock him out, and you better knock these m efforts.
And then, you know, after forty minutes or something, John
(07:20):
Robbins will be oh, you know, and then like we
had Paul Hackett, you know, who had a really close
relationship with Marcus Allen because he was his coach at
Kansas City as coordinator, and Marcus Allen then would start
coming and talking to the team. And you know, after
forty minutes of telling us how he figured out zone
blitz in the NFL, you know, sometime in like August,
(07:44):
you know, we okay, Ronnie, you know, okay, thank you, Marcus.
You know. So, I mean there's a fine line here,
like I understand.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Pretty cool to have Ronnie Lott and Marcus Allen in
the room.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I'm still telling those stories these Yeah, it was cool
for the first five minutes. Yes, and now, like snack
is getting cold, we want we don't want to want
to hear about you know, how Barry word took your
carries and Harvey Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, I mean, you get what I'm saying. You
had to see it coming Mark.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But this is a bigger problem because Lincoln Riley doesn't
seem to understand coaching USC football and what that entails
at all. I mean, Steve Sarkisian did better than him,
he's from the area. Lane Kiffin did better than him,
and he's from the area. And both of those guys
had personal absolute crash and burn meltdowns into the mess
(08:36):
exploded lives. When they coached at USC, they did a
better job. Clay Helton, believe it or not, did a
much better job with USC tradition and anything about USC
than Lincoln Lincoln Riley. He can't recruit the area or
won't recruit the area. He seems as them. He seems
to be the most insecure coach that the university has
(08:59):
ever had, and it is this is a shocking story.
Tell him not to talk about the Pete Carroll era.
So if Reggie Bush is sitting across from me, I
can't be like, hey, what was it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like, you know, don't talk about it. I can't talk
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What are we supposed to talk about the Clay Helton era?
That one time at o Jeron was the interim and
everybody was geeked up for like three weeks. Like these
are the type of stories that come out of USC
with Lincoln Riley, not a man of the community, not
endearing himself to USC football. USC football is under the
biggest financial weight and the biggest burden and the most
(09:36):
unsolvable problem that they may ever have faced in their
history with this terrible Lincoln Riley Connyer deal, right, ten
year deal, He's three years in and there's a it's
one hundred million dollars overall to get out of it
with him and all his assistants and to remove that
entire pussy mass from palace. Verdi's estates in south central
(10:03):
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, well only eight more years, seven more, seven more years, right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah. Who's the running back that was playing for a
while with Tampa Bay just recently? The USC running back
fast guy played in the Clay Hilton era.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I know you're talking about, and I can't rob If.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He wants to come, we can't have him. We don't
want to shod something like that. But I'll talk to him.
We talk about the Pete Carrole Ara shot White. No,
that's a guy for Arizona State. Ronald Jon Jones. There
you go, Ronald Jones wants to come and talk about
Pete Carroll aira. He wants to talk about the Clay Hilton.
There we all right. It's O with the number of
the day.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Here's my number.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Number of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Number of the day is one. So my flight was
at seven forty yesterday. I left this out of how
was your weekend? Because I would love to lean on
the text though, so to see if anybody else had
the same experience I had last night.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, you're very travel oriented this time of year, Matt. Yeah,
you lose you're a Chargers charter and you become you know,
Tom Hanks who lives at the airport and brushes his teeth.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I did on one whistle say penalty, so I had
to get the football out of my system and a
file excuse me, foul not a penalty the whistle.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
There, Well, they could be in the penalty.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I wish I could remember the name of the place
where I was, but it's not listed here under theflyoard
dot com places to eat. It was a pizza place
that had a bar. I'm sitting at the bar. I
order my Goose Island ipa. I order a Margarite a
pizza because I've got two hours and forty minutes from
the time I arrived until my flight takes off. And
on the three televisions in front of me to the
(11:38):
left sixty minutes center is ESPN, which is running a
thirty for thirty on a boomer Assias and Son very
sad story. And then directly in front of me is
the CNN Tear in the Sky special.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh let's go legacy, triple threat, legacy media right in
your face.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So directly in front of me as I look to
my right out the window at United Terminal one B
and c con.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They have that deal with CNN. You know, they keep
the CNN going in all the air keeps CNN going on.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And CNN is running not just coverage of the tragic
crash between the Blackhawk helicopter and the American Airlines flight
from Wichita or Reagan National, which they're showing over and
over and over again. Yeah, but they are also sharing
some of America's worst air disasters. Oh, soritos. Yeah, let's
(12:35):
go in the airport, let's enjoy that. Let's talk about
this DC ten crashing in San Diego, seventy souls lost.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know who loves that stuff, Old submarine monitoring Kates.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, the Kates is a bit of a nervous flyer too.
I don't think he would want to sit in the
bar at the airport watching deeply crisis orient at.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
A home, it's one thing, but sitting at a bar
and criminal b.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No, I didn't say anything, because I did you just
lock in with sixty minutes, But I did I was watching.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I was watching the sixty minutes. But I found it
another great story. I found it humorous because everybody that
would look, I would see their reactions because I'm there
for an hour and a half, and when they would
sit down, they'd look and they'd be like, yeah, well,
and then no one would say anything, and it would
stay on, and it was on the entire I was
there for over an hour.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like, do they have like when you're at Natsberry Farm
in line? Do they have like roller coaster accidents over
the years.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
They're showing the flight from or from China or Korea
that crashed in San Francisco and caught on fire to
that one, and yeah, that was that was pre flight
programming right there, add o haare nobody working for the
establishment realizing that that's what CNN was running, Perhaps maybe
they should change the channel, considering, oh, this isn't breaking news.
(13:50):
This is a airline disaster special on CNN that is
running right now.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Hey, aren't we on in all the airports? Yeah? Why
do you say? Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Just SAT's kind of do a two hour block here
of worst airline crashes in American recent history. Is what
we're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Are gonna be their highest rating the airports. Oh yeah, Kate,
this is a song of the day.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Today's song of the Days called Muscle Rock is a
Horse and transition a complex tune from legendary nor Cal
Indie rock band Pavement because it is an I'm a Horse.
Monday on the Petros and Money Show, where we transition
from the weekend and muscle our way into another week
of AM Radio Salvation featuring a full four hour, unabridged
(14:39):
version of great sports Talk moving us through the afternoon
where all signs will direct us to Dodger Talk with
David Vasse Talk and Dodger Baseball and recapping that excellent
dodge Your Fest that took place this past Saturday, and
that's coming up for your listening enjoyment at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Are you ready? I thought it was Case was discussing
his appreciation for the crisis shows.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Not while he's in the airport or in a submarine.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We'll be right back with Jovan Booha going till seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Then David Veasse will be along for off season Dodger Talk,
coming off of an exceptional three hour Dodgers Fest program
on Saturday. Remember you can podcast the Petros and Money
Show anything you might have missed. Same with Dodger Fest.
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Speaker 3 (15:40):
Who's behind the Trade Silver Clutch Paleika more questions and
answers and here to help us. Man embedded with the
team working for the Athletic Jovan Booha one of the best.
We love having him on. You see him on Spectrum
Sports Net as well. Booha knows stuff and he's not
(16:01):
afraid to say things and he joins us on the
Southern California Toyota Diner Celebrity Hotline. Booha, what was your
original reaction when you heard the trade was going down?
Did you believe that it was a falsehood?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I thought Sean's got hacked. I was at MSG
in the press room. It was myself as well as
the three other traveling Lakers beat writers, and we all
thought it was fake. None of us believed it, and
that once it was conferred that it was colleague texting
(16:38):
people frantically and going out into the hallway to try
and get information and it was just a circus. But yeah,
at first I did not believe it, and honestly, I
can say a couple days later I still barely believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We saw the you know, thanks to social media and
cameras being on players at all times or anything at
all times. We saw the instant reaction of Kevin Durant,
which was entertaining to see how someone would react to
something like that. Since you were at MSG, how would
you describe the atmosphere around you, the disbelief, the idea
that one of the two or three best players in
(17:12):
the NBA could be moved to the Lakers of all places?
What did it kind of? What was the immedia I
don't want to say fall up, but what was the
immediate reaction that you felt.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, so it did happen Eastern time. It was about
twelve fifteen in the morning, so there was only like
five of us in the press room. Everyone had cleared out,
So don't have any any juicy scenes of like what happened,
But it was pretty wild because about an hour earlier,
the Lakers just pulled off one of their best wins
(17:41):
of the season, beating the Knicks at MSG without Anthony Davis,
and they had won eight of ten games. They were
a game back of the number four seed, and it
felt like this group was finally having some positive momentum
and kind of stabilizing and like finding this identity that
within an hour of their best or second best win
of the season in my opinion, Like, they trade Anthony
(18:03):
Davis and it completely pivot and the Lebron ad era. So,
I mean, this is one of the most shocking trades
in NBA history. A player like Luca Doncis just does
not get traded at twenty five, still on his second contract,
Like it's just I still can't believe it. But the
Lakers continue to Laker. Laker exceptionalism is alive and well,
(18:26):
and the Lakers got their their golden parachute into the
next era of Laker basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
So those of us that were led to believe that
this was Anthony Davis's team, what happens to us.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Now, Well, it was for a little bit, and then
now it's Luka Doncic's team. The Lakers are firmly on
the Luca Dontrich timeline.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
How does that affect Lebron James because he publicly said
this is a D's team, he's the you know, he's
the lead dog. Now he said that, but you know,
I don't know if if I mean, you tell me
whether or not you agree with that. That that's how
it appeared in the game's waning moments, with the game
in the balance. Was it really Anthony Davis's team or
was it still Lebron's team? Luka Doncic is a you know,
(19:10):
Lebron's playing really good basketball, but he ain't Luka Doncic.
So how does how does all that balance out?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, like this version of Lebron obviously is not right,
That's what I mean. But I think it's it's gonna
be interesting to see how they manage the basketball fit
because the one thing with these two guys is, you
know that that Spider Man meme of the two Spider
Man twenty at each other, Like that's basically these two
guys in terms of like Lucas has modeled his game
(19:40):
after Lebron in many ways, and there's some obvious physical
differences between the two. Lebron is at a completely different
level athletically, even at forty compared to Luca at twenty five.
But the blend of the size, the playmaking the basketball IQ,
the way they can manipulate games, and just that really unprecedented,
(20:01):
you know, both scoring and passing ability, just with that
skill set, Like it's it's really Lebron Luca and I
don't even know who else I would put in that
conversation like at that size. So in the scenario that
they've been in Lebron in Miami with Dwayne Wade, Lebron
in Cleveland with Kyrie, Lebron in LA with Anthony Davis,
(20:25):
and then Luca in Dallas with Kyrie, They've always been
the batman. They've always been the number one option, and
it's been the other star or stars having to adjust
to them and take a step back and reduce their
usage and kind of change the way that they play.
This is the first time that these two can look
at their co star and say, like, you can basically
(20:48):
do everything I can do. And of course Lebron is
no longer the player he used to be and he
can't quite do it at the level that Luca can
currently do it at. But still like the way that
they can manipulate a defense with their passing and some
of the reads they can make. Really only like these
two guys can do that, and that to me is
like an interesting kind of wrinkle within just how do
they adjust that. I do expect Luca to be the
(21:09):
primary ball handler at the point guard and to you,
for the Lakers to adjust the offense more to him
and to have a nice two man game there between
Lebron and Luca where either one can can handle the
ball and screen for the other one. And I think
that's going to be a lethal two men game. But
this might be the first time in Lebron's career that
actually adjusts to a star in a dramatic way and
(21:32):
kind of takes more of a back seat. So it's
never really happened before. It's again always been the other
players having to adjust more to him.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But I do think it can work.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I think both guys are skilled, talented, and gifted enough
to figure this out. But I do think there's going
to be a learning period for sure, and certainly some
trial and error.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well it's not like it's halfway through the season or anything.
Ya bought Boja joining us right now on the Petrosen
Money Show. We're always happy to have him. Now, I'm
not asking you to put on like an aluminum hat
and go run around Area fifty one. But if the
MAVs wanted to trade Luca, couldn't they done a lot
better than this? Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I mean, there's been a lot of reporting on it,
but none of it is really quite stuck with me,
you know, in my opinion just kind of reading the situation,
I mean, they really seem to have given up on
Luca and are making a huge bet against him, which
is I think arguably the most shocking part of this
(22:36):
entire situation is like Dallas had an up close look
and this guy just took them to the final last
season and they were the number four seed when he
got injured around Christmas time, Like he was having a
good year. They were having a good year, and then
something has shifted in the past like a month and
a half where you know, maybe they had some of
these feelings that had been building, but like they decided
(22:58):
in early January, let's start shopping him to the Lakers
and try to trade him.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So, I mean, it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Doesn't quite make sense to me, Like it kind of
feels like sometimes there's a breakup, one side tries to
get out and set the narrative, and I feel like
with Dallas, I mean, they've gotten flamed for this trade.
It's rightfully so that the fan base is like, we're
vaulting right now at the American Airlines Center, and they
I think they kind of tried to get out ahead
of it and say, well, wait and conditioning and leadership
(23:26):
and we have all these concerns, but like, no one's
really buying it. Everyone views Luca as at worse the
top five player, if not a top three player. He
should be getting the Supermax whenever he's eligible for it,
and like it just it's mind boggling that they gave
up on this guy. But I mean for the Lakers,
of course, I think your intendor should be a little
up of like why were they willing to trade this guy?
(23:48):
And I think you have to have an appropriate level
of maybe some caution. But at the end of the day,
you know, I was talking to it to a source
and they were just like, what is this guy the
second or third best player in the lead, Like, I
think we will take that guy. So I think for
the Lakers that you just came down to you make
this trade ten out of ten times, you figure it
out on the fly, as I think they're going to do,
(24:10):
and You're now set up for the next NSH years
with Luka Donci as the face of your franchise.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, they'll immediately hand him a MAX deal two hundred
whatever they can't off him. I don't know, one hundred
million dollars less than what the Mavericks could. But however
much they can off him, they will and what kind
of position because you know, the whole Lebron didn't know.
They didn't run it by him. That's that's the other
sort of side conversation around all of this. And you know, Yovan,
I look at it and I'm like, Okay, well, now
(24:36):
the Lakers are in an fu position. Hey, we got
a bigger star than you. We've got a guy that
will sell season tickets out moving forward, year after year
after year. We don't have to play the clutch sports
game anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You can agree or disagree with whether or not they
were forced to do that because of how Lebron operates.
I personally think they did, and I think it probably
chapped their asses a little bit. And this definitely gives
them a different level, a different position of power because
face you know, whether people might agree or not, he's
a bigger star, like he is twenty five and an
MVP candidate year in and year out moving forward.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, no, I'm largely in agreement with you, Like I think,
I don't think they made this trade specifically to get
out of the Clutch business or to lessen Clutch's power
or stranglehold within the organization. But I do think it's
an ancillary benefit for them. Like I think again, at
the end of the day, regardless of who is stepped by,
(25:35):
regardless of how much they loved Anthony Davis or believed
in him, he is six years older than Luka Doncic,
and Luka Doncic is already a better player. So like,
if you're projecting out who's going to be better in
twenty twenty eight, who's going to be better in twenty
thirty one, the answer is Luca, like firmly, And there's
really put a bit there, like barring him, you know,
(25:56):
suffering like a career, any injury or something like, he
is is going to be better than Anthony Davis over
the next six to seven years, because he's already better
than Anthony Davis. So I think for the Lakers, like
that was the the real like reason behind the deal.
Now to your point, like I think, what once Lebron
retires and whether that's a Laker or not, Like I
(26:16):
do still think that the way things are looking, it
will be as a Laker, most likely next season. But
whether it's as a Laker or eventually leaving elsewhere, I
think once that happens, like they will ultimately then be
moving on from the whole Clutch situation.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And who knows, maybe there's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Another star that's a clutch star that ends up going
there and you know that that relationship is a bit mended.
But I do think really dating back to the Russell
Westbrook trade, like you can kind of point some of
the tension that's been there the last few years to that,
and like the thing I always say, and I'm not
trying to defend you know, Clutch or Lebron or ad
(26:52):
by by any means what Like I would argue that
they have not gotten what they've wanted for quite a while.
Like you can't point to Bronny and drafting him and
signing him, Yes, but the opportunity cost of that was
he's making less than a normal VET minimum player. So
the late like we could debate whether he should be
on the roster or not but the Lakers are actually
(27:12):
saving money comparing to having a VET minimum player like
on the roster. And yes that that was obviously to
benefit Lebron, But if Lebron had his way with this roster,
they would have traded for Kyrie Irving, they would have
traded for Jeantey Murray, they would have traded for Zach Lvine.
He's wanted a third all star level guy for years
since the Westbrook trade and they haven't done it. Ady
(27:34):
would have been playing power forward next to a good center.
They have not done it. They've signed nothing about VET
minimum centers. Eighty wanted James Barrego as the coach, not
JJ Redick. They went and got JJ Redick. So like
they have not really done what Lebron and eighty have
wanted for for years now that they shipped that, you know,
they don't tell them about this trade that they ship
out ad just you know, blindly. And now Lebron he's
(27:56):
kind of in a position where it's like, do you
want to be here or not? But either way we're
kind of moved forward. So I think it was more
of a like a SI and kind of benefit to it,
But at the end of the day, it was like,
we can get a top three player who's twenty five,
and we can have him for the next seven to
ten years, Like we're going to do that. So I
think that was the main part behind it, but certainly
(28:17):
Lakers gained a lot more power within the whole clutch
dynamic in the last like forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Wow, it's gonna put Lebron in a bad mood. Good
luck to you. Boo hac Press Crafts, Luca Lebron Man,
it's gonna be in a bad mood. All right, we
love you. Booh great, Josh, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Talk soon.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
The athletic Yovann Bouja, great work. We'll be right back
with some reaction. React. I swear to god, Creighton has
that point guard who looks like Ed Norton at this age,
like on the head of a little white guy banked
in a three to beat Villanova. The worst thing I've
ever seen in my life happened. I tuned on f
(29:00):
S one and I saw Seth Davis sitting there on
f S one. Uh huh. And I texted somebody. I
was like Seth Davis. They're like, yeah, he's with us.
A couple of weekends CBS, so he uses them for
the tournament. Why not a fan?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I just left it at that. Yeah, I leave
him unopen. He's the kid, say yeah, just leave it,
leave unopen.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Not a fan. I should have just sent the straight face.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Oh that's a good one too. I love the straight face.
I've been a long proponent of the straight face.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You guys always forget about Seth Davis for the State
of Hate.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I mean, he doesn't even.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Know it's listen. State hate is not on us, Kates,
it's on you.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
He doesn't live here. Seth Davis don't know us, but
his father, Lannye Davis, he hates us.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well, Seth did send us his book to promote, and
we refuse.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well, I believe he's publishing company.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No Seth personally.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He did his at Tim Neffett style book Push.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yes, you know you can put me on, you can
interview me, and we can give away five copies outside
of them.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We'll be back with.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Next hour. We'll hear from David Vassa following Dodger Fest
this past Saturday noon to three, recap some of the
stuff he talked about in case you missed it, and
give you a preview of what is coming tonight at
seven pm, as it is an off season Dodger Talk night.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Well, who knows? I mean, are you on team Slovenian Mafia?
Are you on team uh Clutch Sports? Like Booja kind
of sounded like, are you on team no Sparatu for
trying to save his league and his vampiric ways.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's worked for the night. I'm back blah headline on
sports and.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Very I mean, are you on team Lebron? No?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, that team We're definitely not on. But you can
be on team not Lebron, Like, hey, they didn't on
it by Lebron.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's what I'd like to believe.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
They're talking to Lebron, like, hey, Golden State really wants
you man more questions and answers. Who did who did this?
And what will happen to Papa?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Do you think we'll get answers tomorrow at nine am
at the press conference.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's possible. Are we gonna run it? We'll have the
press conference that a Tom Monell keel over and just
flip it to the right as Colin gets hit and
like the like the uh the triple option? Right, his
Colin gets hit by the end, he's gonna flip it
out to the press conference to be caught by Lawrence
Phillips on the edge. All right with us? No, didn't
(31:34):
I have some text tosos for you.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Fine, brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We make it easy. Mike Rozier out there, Okay. How
come musicians shout out Compton but not Guardina or Carson?
I agree, sir. I think Guardina and Carson are Compton
adjacent and deserve shoutouts, and they don't get him. Most
of the NBA's NWA stuff, excuse me, was all recorded
(32:02):
in Torrents Guardina, Jason, where's the love? My vote is
no sparatus, Dark magic and rage from ratings drop was
the cause for Luca. Yeah, dark magic and rage.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm with them.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well, doesn't that have to simultaneously be happening while Luca
has worn out his welcome through his Slovenian Slovenly ways.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I think Dallas people forget there's a long play here, Luke.
Over the next two years, you're gonna make an NBA final,
You're going to be second in MVP voting, but you're
going to gain weight through the bottle all right, you're
going to gain weight through the bottle.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You think he's gonna fall to the bottle on Sunset Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's what you're gonna do. No, that's that was the
setup for this trade to ls Oh, so I can
save my league. This is the Adam Silver machinations behind it.
So you got to act like you're a drunk like
the drunken Master. Years. Yes, two years, you're the drunken Master.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
You know your theory.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I star just sent.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I believe your theory at first, Matt, Now and now
it's starting to feel more and more far fetched. I'm
tired of you speaking so authoritatively. And that's drink. I
asked real questions and I get down to the foundation
of the building and there's nothing there.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's just silt.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Oh. This is a text from about Kate's's weekend. It's quotes.
It says the team got boat raced, but my kids
scored five goals, so that's okay. Kates is following the
Cam Newton parentee. Yeah, the Rams are trying to trade
Cooper Cup. He's very upset about it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Still got the beard trended down? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Trade coming? That beard might fly in LA. I won't
fly in any other football.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
He just released a statement on social media saying that
the Rams have informed him they're gonna trade him and
they're gonna help him find a landing spot.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Okay, Now this comes from a Petrosen money fan who,
much like Vassa, does not have permission to ride for
the Lakers. It says Ad is the most injury prone,
whiny bitch that's ever won a Laker uniform, ridden to
the center, that refused to play center ps the Bubble
Championship does not count.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well, Ambick says, give them their flowers that seem to
all be overlooked following the trade. You know, he is
one of the ten best, maybe fifteen, maybe eight best player,
MVP level defensive player of the year, a perfect match
with Kyrie. Okay, I don't feel like that's what you're
saying about Ad for the last four years. Injury prone
street close.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
The best tweet was from the NBA Twitter and it said,
Who's stopping this duo? There was a picture of Kyrie
and Ad and MAVs uniforms and somebody tagged it arthritis.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, I do believe Kyrie Herving is dealing with a
back issue right now. Oh legitimately, I think there's like
a disc issue that doesn't scream Jack Flarity.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Congratulations to Blackjack Flarity.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I got that two year deal in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Did you just say black Jack Flarity.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
At the end?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Not Tuesday, It is somewhere here. Is in Australia, Oh
block Jack because he's a dealer.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a big dog there, mate. Get
your camera out.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Of my face. I will talk more about the arrival
of the Slovenian Mafia. Some industries that could be affected.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I hope they burn you with their David Off cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
If you're going to the Press of tomorrow, take a
Zippo light somebody's cigarette. You'll immediately ingratiate yourself to this
new regime of superstartup.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know, we noticed a lot more smoking around the facility.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, I know. We embraced that. We've got a new
superstar in town.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Vlade devons is sending down a cart and we've missed
them of Belmont's. We'll be back more great sports stop.
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