February 3, 2025 • 49 mins
The guys are back for a full 4 hours of Great Sports with reaction to the Luka trade to the Lakers. Lakers great Robert Horry on the blockbuster deal with the Lakers and Mavericks. How Was Your Weekend?
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week Yeah, lest of the way we start today going
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on a big trade happened, as you know, over the weekend,
the biggest sports day of all.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Trade Ton Trade, tung Mine. Colin Cowherd goes down with
an illness in his first segment. We wish time to shine,
We wish Colin the best. He had to take a
knee like Charlemagne, and that was tough to see. It's
tough to see people not feeling well, this is my game.
Come on, I get to do it today. We hope
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that calling feels sadels all right, but a big day
where everybody wants to have their hot take on what
they think about the Lakers trading Warriors big away. It's
very interesting because I remember, you know, Lebron saying, this
is Anthony Davis's team, and now apparently it's no longer
Anthony Davis's team. It is Luka Doncic's team, and he
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is the best player on the team. Lebron has nothing
to do with it. Lebron has nothing to do with this,
according to Lebron.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well no, according to Shams, Well according yeah, but you
know so Samp not just saying well, yeah, and look,
I would love to be a mature person and really
just dive deep into because I do dive deep into deep.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What is this trade? Why it happened? If this is
Lebron taking the hatchet to the neck of another superstar
like he has over the years. When he left Cleveland
the first time and left Kevin Love and the lurch?
Was it Love or somebody in the lurch his first
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time around? Second time he left poor Day, I believe right,
Kyrie left in the lurch. He got Kyrie traded away
from Cleveland and then left Cleveland themselves in the lurch
something like that. Yeah, and then came here and has
done his thing. Traded away all the young guys remember that, well,
the big ad trade. Well yeah, which is when you
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think about it. Now, the second time he's been traded
for one of the three best players in the league.
The first time he was traded was for two number
two overall picks, Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and like
five draft picks. I think three first rounders outright, two pickswaps.
That's how good of a player Anthony Davis was. And
now he's been traded for one of the three best
players in the league. You pull your uterus a few
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times and your trade value goes down, but maybe not
that much.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And now everybody seems to like Anthony Davis. Oh yeah,
everybody's like, all of a sudden, Davis is you know,
I like what this does for the MAVs. I think
you put Anthony Davis on that team, like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're gonna be the They're gonna be the silent winners.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
He's been here for six years and he's always hurt. Well,
but last year, well yeah, that was one of the
six years that he was actually healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Every other year he's been hurt. So was it. I mean,
we didn't even mention all the coaches that have been
piled into a mass grave and covered in lime and and.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Uh, now, can I say I want to believe that
Lebron didn't know. Yeah, I'm hopeful that the weekend that
they turned a page, like you know what, enough.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, we can say all that stuff. I mean, we're
gonna have guests on to discuss it. Robert Ori is
going to join us from the player standpoint and media
analyst as a player standpoint, an old friend of the show,
and a guy who Matt did a game with over
the weekend and drove all around rural Illinois.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
With spend five hours in a car with a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So Robert ri is going to join us in the
very next segment, and then booha our friend Jovonne Boucha,
who with the team I mean, and Matt. Yeah, I'd
like to believe that the Lakers are trying to take
the power away from lebron even though his son and
hit the coach that he basically handpicked.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I wonder if that was the tipping point. Still, right,
Bronny and j J.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We could talk. We can talk about all this stuff.
We can talk about Luca just being a basic euro
trash drunk all over Dallas and that's why they don't
want him around, because he's just Slovenian trash in a
sweatsuit and they don't want him around anymore. Maybe that's
but we could talk all of that stuff, Matt, We
could talk about all of it, and that would be
the mature and the right thing to do. But we
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are not a mature show. And the number one thing
we have to discuss is Bill Ryder. We have not
talked about Bill Ryder for you, Well, we talked about
him from time to time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can't tell you how many like Big Time interviews
I've turned down.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Bill Ryder used to work here. Originally he was hired
by FS one to be embedded with the Heat. Yes
Fox sports dot com and that was still on operation.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
New site, this brand newly constructed Lebron James Heatles team.
His name is Bill Ryder. He's gonna move to Miami.
And they told over the Heat there's a guy named
Rick Jaffey is a great guy. Rick Jaffe who was
an editor at the La Times for many years, one
of the guys who was instrumental in the development of
Mike Pereira's career and how that became a whole thing
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in sports. So not exactly a lightweight. Rick Jaffe was
a friend of ours and a friend of mine, and
they were like, Hey, let's get this guy Bill Ryder on.
He's a good reporter, this and that.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So we would talk to Bill Ryder, yeah all the time,
and he was charismatic whatever. And it came to the
fact where Bill Ryder even, you're like, he filled in
a couple times on the show. And then Bill Ryder
we were working at FS one on some of those
BS shows. They still have all of them on stuff
like that, same similar stuff that's in you.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And he got very close.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, and then he started working here and he revealed
he revealed himself as a very difficult, kind of a
douchey guy. Keep it lit, rip City. I'm sure he
feels the same way about me. But he just he
didn't fit very well with us. He was just flowers. Well,
you just treated Vic terribly. You listened to him talk,
and only we are allowed to treat Vic terribly. You
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listen to him talk, and you just get the idea
of what Bill Ryder's like. And hey, look there's a
guy on the TV right there, Brian Windhorse takes himself
super seriously. They think that talking about basketball and basketball
trades is literally like being Rousseau in the time of
the French Revolution. Like these guys are really self important.
And Bill Ryder was very very guilty of that. And
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there's probably I have an issue the other way.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well, I can't tell you how many like big time
interviews I've turned down there it is.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I take that when I was handed to questions
and I refuse to ask him, and they said, then
you can't do the interview, and I said, well, and
that included former presidents.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, at least one former president. Really, I at least
take maybe don't take myself seriously enough. I don't know,
but the guy just rubbed most all of us. I
think I could be confident in saying most all of
us top to bottom the wrong way and did not
work here very long.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't know who you would. I can't think of
anyone you'd be able to find that was like No,
I like that guy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He was all right, yeah, no, he I mean at
first he seemed okay, and then it just got worse
and worse and worse. Anyway, Bill Ryder, we've not thought
about very often, unless we're just gonna make fun of that.
When when he was here and play the keep it
Lit Rep City. I can't tell you how many Keep
it lit Rep City. But Bill Ryder apparently threw his
hat in the ring of all this and went on
(08:20):
on CBSDBS dot com he's their basketball insider, and Kate
sent a snarky tweet where he was like, basketball insider quote.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Unquote, you wrote, quote unquote put it in quoteation quote unquote,
NBA insider NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, good job Kates. According to CBS, he is what.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
All got started when he posted or CBS posted a
video with his trade reaction, and he had to bring
up the fact that a.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Year ago, I said the two of them didn't get along.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
There was talk within the Lakers organization. Yeah, that Lebron
James had had grown a little frustrated with Anthony Davis.
It wasn't that necessary AD was going to be traded.
We obviously didn't report it on CBS Sports. It was
just this is something to keep an eye on. Lebron
is frustrated with AD and he doesn't think that it's working,
and that's because Lebron has very very high expectations.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
And you fast.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Forwardy a year later.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Obviously that that reporting really that information from from Lakers
sources was accurate.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Stop it from Laker sources was accurate. That information from
it my information from Lakers sources from a year ago
about Lebron not being happy with Anthony Davis to the
point where he wants to be traded. But just you know,
something to keep an eye on one year ago. I'm
sure we could dig into our archives from a year
ago and you could hear Matt saying something about how
Lebron it's tired of report on it, didn't want to
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report on a New York City. So that is a
subdle way to give himself a little bit of credit there.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
This was probably a slow boiled Joe. And it's always
hard to know with Lebron James. I've covered the guy,
We've all watched him for years. Amazing player, amazing player.
He can be.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Let's find a way to euphanize this.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
He can be a little, a little inconsistent. Sometimes he
can be someone say, a little moody. And so this
is something I had heard about and we had talked
about a year ago. You never know, just Lebron having
a bad month of ad. But obviously Lebron had made
the consideration because you're right, this trait does not happen
without his absolute blessing and approval. Lebron clearly made the
determination that his windows longer than just this season because
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Lucas injured, but coming back that all.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right, it's done it. Most of us are under the impression,
now maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That is in contrary to what every other reporter is saying,
even those that aren't necessarily in the in the Lebron
Like what Charles Barkley was saying this morning was, I
don't think I absolutely don't think they told them it would.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Most of us are whenever we hear that the Lakers
have made a trade, most of us. You know, you
think a genie bus hanging on Lebron's arm like a
seventeenth century damsel, and you say, this guy probably is
in the loop. In fact, I bet I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Think he had anything to do with Bronni getting drafted.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Though, Yeah, I bet I think, And I'll even take
it a step further, and I'll even take it a
step further. You go home way out of line. I'll
even take a step further. I think you might have
had something to do with this podcast partner JJ Redibi
and hired us ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's crazy talk.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, find this window whatever he thinks that is next
year or two. And the new CBA makes it much
more restrictive. There wasn't going to be the easy opportunity
to go and get a big name because of some
of the limitations. And so I think you're right. We're
speculating here to a degree. I mean, I've got some
reporting here that suggestion people that the Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Certainly looks up. Where does the reporting begin and the speculation.
I've got some reporting here, all right, here's the meat
to a degree.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I mean, I've got some reporting here that suggestion people
that Lebron certainly was involved.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But this follows a pattern.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Wheen Lebron wants to win championships, it doesn't matter if
he's twenty six or he's forty years old. And you're right,
there's no chance, there is zero percent chance this trade
happens without Lebron had a minimum giving his approval and
maybe you know, maybe a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Little bit of a show up the door for you who.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
All right, so then that is a bold proclamation. Then
Lebron Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
James respond with the serenod bersiac long nose, liar, pinocchio nose, liar, liar,
pants on fire and a clown face, call him.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
A clown, liar clown, and then wrote you and f
and lie right, you're an f and lie lie. And
then Bill Ryder came back with the very half baked
Sampson Simpson, A stick by my story, a stand by
my reporting. I'm Bill Ryder and I can't tell you
how many big time interviews, including former presidents say I
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turned out, I stick by my story, stand by my story,
and then you know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The intrigue grows. And in one On one hand, Tim
kats Is over here saying, I want to see Bill
Ryder humiliated because not any of us, none of us
had anything good to say about him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
As you born it out, Matt Well, none of us
believe that he has Laker sources.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, that that goes beyond the point that I'd love
to believe his story. Matt.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
He retweeted his video that he put out and said,
check out the entire video to understand the context.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here, I stand by my report, and right below it he.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Got community checked. Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh it's also good.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Lebron james Is suggested that none of that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
On one hand, whether or not he has a Laker
source or not, and who knows he'd lived I lived
him in that meets for time. Yeah, Okay. On one hand,
it's like, okay, yeah, I know, Jesse Buss, you do
think he wears his hat all the way inside, like
he lives in Cochilla Valley and he's fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
We both left the flat Bill life.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
If you believe that, right, if you believe that Rider
is saying the truth, his truth, the truth, the truth,
not his truth. There's only the truth the situation, okay,
And it may fly in the face of some other reporting.
And then you look at that in the context of
the fact that they hired his bff to be head
coach and they drafted his son when no one knows.
(13:50):
But you say, okay, perhaps Bill Ryder's right. But then
you and f and Lye clown knows Bergiac knows Pinoak
clown clown, I mean, so that's uh, that's that's the
other end, and you say, wow, Bill Ryder's being humiliated,
even though Sampson Simpson is sticked by my story. And
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then sam Amot comes with an a frame like chop
of legitimacy from the USA today and says something to
the effect of the organization is frustrated with both a
d and Lebron bitching publicly in the media for help, right,
and that they don't have enough help, which goes back
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to three franchises ago, wherever Lebron was, Lebron never has
enough help. It's always Lebron against the world, and it's
a ridiculous thing. No one ever talked about, how do
we help Michael Jordan, How can Michael Jordan get more
help in anything?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
When Rodman was traded to the Bulls, everyone was like,
he's a nightmare. He's a guy that used to take
off his shoes and were put sham is to practice. Yeah,
they won't be able to absorb him in their culture. Yeah,
Jordan won't tolerate this bs. This was a terrible move.
That was a whole thing. Yeah, So, I mean it is.
It is very interesting and Matt, I think it goes
hand in hand. I know, the trade gets everybody excited,
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oh handed freaking out. It is eclipsed the Super Bowl
talk at the NBA at least for the day, and
the NBNBA is back. They might have a death spasm
of a couple days here, But overall, a lot of
what's interesting about this trade, I think there's also a
microcosm of what's wrong with the league in general. Wow,
couldn't you say that? Yes, you know, Lebron James moving
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people around, people moving around around Lebron James. It's just
the idea that a Dallas, you know, Mavericks team was
in the finals last year in the finals. Last year,
you would say of all the basketball fans in Dallas,
ninety five percent of the Jersey sold er number seventy seven.
Luka Doncic. There's kids that were seven. Still a lot
of Tyson Ler being bought, yeah, oh yeah, a lot
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of that thirteen. And like Luca's their superstar. He's a
one franchise guy. And the idea that you no, a
team owned by a billionaire doesn't want to hand him
three hundred and fifty five million dollars because you have
to give him the Supermax. The way this is set up,
that's supposed to be able to keep superstars with their
current teams instead of having the Lakers or the Knicks
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poach them. That's what was put into place, and that
may in fact be the mechanism that led to his
being traded. That they're like fat, smoking Slovenian with a
bunch of dudes hanging around her facility all the time
that doesn't take coaching. That is a nightmare on the
on the floor on one half of the floor. On
the other half, he's a genius. We don't want to
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give him three hundred fifty million bucks for five years
seventy million dollars a year. We can't do that. That's
not what we want to do.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Are you saying that the guys hanging around the Dallas facility,
the slim Acti to Doncic looked like the bad guys
in one of my favorite movies starring Val Kilmer and
Elizabeth schu The Saint.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, exactly what I'm saying. Blackmock turn neck, black leather jacket,
carrying a sharp they have sharp objects, Harry Hack a scepter.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, okay, I mean I can see that. But at
the same time, you think, like, Okay, we're the Dallas Mavericks.
This guy's the most marketable thing we have. We have
not be the most marketable thing the NBA has. And
he's going through a rough time now, he's twenty five.
He's vaping up a storms fat, he eats, he looks
like he drinks right. Well, then the face bloating looks
(17:26):
like there's a lot of boost. You know, I resent that.
Uh So, perhaps why don't they just ride out the
hard times with him? Right? And he he quote unquote
grew up in the franchise. You know, Kobe wasn't always
a bowl of strawberries for the Lakers. No guy got
charged with rape, but he worked. Yeah, so you know
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you take the hay hard work here, try to leave,
try to leave for the Clippers, right, that's true. Charge
with rape, tried to force the hand, complained about the
quality of the private jet that was flying him back
and forth from his rape trial.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
That's true story. So I guess it's the exact opposite.
Sorry to bring up old stuff, right, you know the
uh the on the court on point, Kobe on point,
off the court bit of a nightmare. So for Luca
seems like on the court, even though the production is there,
it is the the way the body looks what he
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does not in the game. You know, Kobe would lift
after games, was always the first one there. Well, we
all know the workout work exactly, which apparently Luca has none.
I'm just saying I still don't trade it overall, He'll
is in the NBA Finals last year.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Hills and Gullies. When a guy has to grow up
on the franchise, right, I.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Think it's an Adam silver batphone call. The league's dying.
We're breathing our last breaths. I've tried everything, I've tried
it all. So how does Adam Silver, how do we
get our how do we get our league to find
relevance yet again? And I think it would be fair
to call that a conspiracy theory. It is even though
I could completely and totally see that being the case
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because the NBA said, and Lebron's a big reason why
the NBA sucks, Yes, And I think that's a sports Yeah,
well that's him.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's what I mean. See Lebron clutch sports entity.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It all exists in and around agency, none of it
exists without player empowerment.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And he's moved people around. He's soured the regular fan
away from the league. So that I did see people say, well,
this is this is a problem with the fan. Is
the fan gets upset with the player when the player
demands a trade. Why isn't the fan upset with the
owner when the owner trades a player who didn't want
to be traded. Well, I mean, I think you're splitting hairs.
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I think the fan is upset with the whole thing.
There's some matter how it works. Something about the NBA
right now. I mean, the people are speaking, they're not
into you know, they're not into it. And Lebron James
is the common thread in.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
My Cleveland, LA. I want Anthony Davis sports guy. I
want my son.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm gonna tweet about Kyrie Irving being guy even though
people doesn't that, yes, there is, there is the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That everybody's over it. Now.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
My favorite player should be on the team that I
root for because he's a star for his the majority
of his career hopefully.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And they're not two things. Ever, your conspiracy theory, Adam
Silver is throwing a life raft to his own league
by either allowing this or facilitating it or whatever. Uh
the other the other thing that's interesting, If this guy
has all those problems in Dallas, Texas, what the hell's
it going to be like in Los Angeles, Super Luca.
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That's a question, right, that's a question. And then I
think the third thing, which I think we can all
agree on is that at this point there are more
questions and answers regarding this trade, a lot of questions
and and and fewer answers.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Now I will say this, it's just the here's the
here's my half class full thing. One they didn't tell
Lebron they're tired of it. The browny thing pushed him
over the edge. All the negative coverage that they're getting.
Stephen A. Smith saying, I am begging you man to
man and Lebron do.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You think that they would stop this after all the
stuff that they've allowed him to do? You think they'd
finally think.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That Jji, the fact that JJ is probably the a
hole of all a holes to have around the facility,
and they are absolutely miserable showing up at the practice
facility and seeing his face. It's interesting they are not
happy seeing Bronny that this that it's like, you know
what if we can find ourselves another superstar and this
thing lands in their lap. The way that the stories
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being reporters that this guy Nico reached out to them
and said that Kyrie and a d are tight.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, I mean, is that is that the story or
did Adam Silver make it happen? Which one is it?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Adam Silver calls Nico okay, Nico calls calls Rob Polinka,
and now the Lakers have a bigger superstar than lebron
and they don't have to cater to as every women
in order to maintain their relevance as a franchise with
a superstar.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
If this was up to the NBA, like you said
with Adam Silver, or if this was done by the
Lakers brass Genie Bus basically and Linda Rambis with Rob
Polenka without Lebron's knowledge. It suggests two things. The NBA's
done with Lebron. The Lakers are done with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think it's fair.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
After they've created forty after they've facilitated everything for him
up until this very moment, they've built a mountain of
crap for him to sit on top of his son
JJ Reddick, all the reporting Genie Bus with us just.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Played their best game of the year on the biggest
stage Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Genie Bus with us over the summer saying I wish
I could pay him a billion dollars more.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And that's what he's worked to us. And then they
realized and.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Then all of a sudden, the ceiling, the ceiling and
the floor fall away.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think it's quite possible that those two moves every down.
Then you know that crap Key's building and building and building,
and finally you get too much that that toilet done
flush anymore, and it comes pouring back into your house.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
At a certain point, you're saying there's a new king
of real estate.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yes, it takes over all of that s gets backed
up to the point that you fl your house with
sewage and you have to call surf pro with those
big ass green fans quite to get it all squared
away fair enough and clean it out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Matt and JJ and Bronni were the but one of
the other two huge deuces that they took and finally
clogged it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Which one is true? Did the Lakers put one of
the Caesar knives in Lebron? Did the NBA do it?
Did they do it simultaneously at that time? Did they
do it together? Did Lebron do it? Because he hates
ad just like he's hated every other one. Got sources
and everybody knows. It's not like he hasn't hated every
other one of his co stars, and there hasn't been
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turmoil with every other one of those guys in his career.
That would stand the reason. It's a very interesting conundrum.
We'll get to the bottom of it with a Robert.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Or Eric Snow didn't take his s No, some call
him pooky.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, it's very important to bring up Eric snow in
this moment. Yes, the Petcher Somebody Show continues with Robert Rii.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
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Speaker 2 (24:32):
P A great get. You had to drive through rural
Illinois to get this guy to come on. Robert Rriy
a hero to the show, seven time NBA champion, three
with the Lakers. We love Robert Riy, We love Big
Shot Rob. You see him in the Spective Sports net
and Studios talking Lakers. You hear him on Compass Media
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Networks calling college basketball games on the radio yesterday, him
and Matt Muddy Smith a triumphant All Illinois and Ohio
State and Beautiful Champagne or Band a school of engineers.
The big story is Luca to the Lakers, a d
betrayed on the Southern California Toyota Dealer celebrity hotline, it
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is the great and powerful Robert Nor a friend of
the show. Robert. How are you welcome home from the Midwest?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Oh? Thanks man? How are you pretty good?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Did Matt do what he usually does when he drives,
do a play by play like I'm just gonna get
over here. You know what of them the things like
we might need the brides here, Robert.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
No, I learned a lot about about Chicago, Illinois and champagne. Matt.
Matt was a great tour guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right over here, you'll see the most beautiful vista and
all the lab You know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
The thing about these turbines here is I appreciate Robert
putting up with my bs, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I tell you this right kind of punched everybody in
the face, including reportedly the two biggest pieces involved the
shock and awe everywhere. I mean, I know there's not
much to compare this to and it's very interesting, but
what was your initial reaction to the trade. Did you
look like Katie on the bench, like whoa what?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Hey? You know, we always talk about guys in the
lead that are untouchable, and I always felt like Luca
was untouchable. And when this happened my wife told me,
I was like, oh, that's that's yeah, someone's a lie.
But then when you know, everybody, it was so weird.
Everybody at the same time started pull up their phones
and see if it was true. And once I found
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out it was true, I started thinking who got the
better end of the deal. And I'll be honest, I
don't think you know, nobody lost in this deal. You know,
now people are like, are so high on Luca, but
if you look at what Dallas needed, they needed someone
that can play defense, and we know that's not Luca.
And you know, to me, he always felt like the
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Lakers needed a port guard and they got a good
point guard, but they lost the best player on the team.
So it was it was it was a good deal
for both teams that I think it'd be easier, you know,
for the Lakers now to build around Luke and hopefully
give him some like some hyps because right now, if
I was on that team, I'll be the tallest player
on the team.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So how like walk us through what the the people
that are saying, you know, well, the MAVs have the intel,
they're the ones that are that made this trade, so
there must be a red flag there. And you know,
the concerns about his weight, but it seems like those
concerns have been there his entire career and he's taken
him to the Western Conference finals and then to the
NBA Finals last year, so it seems like those were
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still the same concerns.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Right, Yeah, concerns are the same, but it's it's at
the mask.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
You think when you il playing with all the guys.
I remember playing with Dream my first championship. The next
year he got the camp, he was so in shape,
you know, when we got here, the shack and the field,
first camp, he was so in shape on a song.
And you think about it when you come into camp
and you're not in shape, especially coming off Olympic gyre
where you could have played for Olympics and stayed in shape,
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that's concerned. And then there's some things that people outside
of basketball don't know, and it's you know, like let
us come in now. They want to have in like
that when they come to arena, they want to to
a practice they want to bring their friends. They boys,
they barber, they stylists, you know, they chef and a
lot of organizations ain't with that. You know, you come
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in you say, okay, I'm the superstar. I can do
whatever I want. And that's a bad culture. And when
you want to build a culture in an organization, you
got to shut down a lot of those those that
outside noise and players bringing a lot of outside noise
and me knowing Jay Kidd and me knowing me too,
that ain't basketball, you know, that's that's something else. You
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try to build a culture. Right now, you think of pop.
Willdn't allow that, you know, feel won't allow that. And
those are championship of quality coaches. And I think that's
what Jakidd is and he's trying to bring something to
that organization because this is a great organization. You know,
it's a great cities, it's a great fan base. And
the way Luca was acting on the court and the
things he was doing like outside of basketball that a
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lot of people don't know about it caused some concern
and I think they addressed it all right.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I guess the question then is you know you
mentioned Pop, you mentioned Phil and we look at the
Lakers and they have a first time head coach and
JJ Reddick. Now they're playing some pretty good basketball right now,
but is JJ is Lebron? Do you think that's enough
to you know whatever. Maybe those concerns were to get
this thing right and get back to, you know, somehow
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stepping into and lucking into one of the five best
players in basketball.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah, that's that's the thing, one of the five best
basketball players. But it ain't always about one person. You
can ask every championship team that's ever been. It's about
those guys that nobody talks about. The media just kind
of like glances over and they're going to have to
get some more pieces. And the only trade bait they
got over there is Austin Vie's and Rui, So they're
gonna have to get something else. And I don't think
Lebron's going away. If you do trade Lebron, you know
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it's it's not a biggie because you have Luca now,
and so they gotta get some more pieces. This is
gonna be, you know, head scratch on what they're gonna
be able to do after that, because the history of
the Lakers is nobody wants to help the Lakers at all.
You know, you think about the great Jerry Resk got rested,
so he was able to get power and that was
probably the last big trade that Lakers able to do.
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They got power in there and he was able to
take them to a championship. So it's gonna be really
interesting what they do over there now and now that
they got Luca.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Well, you're someone that lived through it. I mean you
were traded to the Lakers, so like what and you
talked about it like this team has figured out a
way to go from Magic Johnson and then it was
just a minute there. But they drafted Kobe, they get shacked,
they get rid of Shack, they somehow find a way
to get power. Then they find a way to get
Lebron even though that's a free agent. They trade for
Anthony Davis. So, as someone who was an integral part
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of those titles, what was it like when you came
to the Lakers. Does it feel different when you put
on that jersey than when you wore the Rockets jersey,
the Sun's jersey, or the Spurs jersey.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
You know, it's a difference because you know the spotlight
is on you and it's bigger, and so you don't
want to go out there and lay eggs want to
say you can't. I remember, for me, I saw crapping
with the Lakes. Now they moved me to power forward.
I put on fifteen pounds of muscles. You know, I
did all these things to try to be prepared for
the season because the one thing about someone in Houston said, oh,
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Roberts a bum, and then you go to the Lakers,
Oh Roberts a bum, that bomb becomes bum. No, it's
way bigger. And so you have to think about that
as a player, and hopefully, you know this will work
out for both organizations, more so the Lakers because you
know we cover the Lakers that Luca learned from Lebron,
you know, comeing in shape and knowing that, yo, it
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ain't about me, It's about we, because that's the Lake
of Wayne. That's the only way you win champions. Sure,
they magnify their superstars, they get all the glory, but
you look at the b Shaws and Derek Fishers and
Robert Rory's and all those guys. They got all that
glory just as much as those guys because the guys,
the big dogs, respected them and they know they needed them.
And that's what Luca's gonna have to do when he
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get to the Lakers. He's got to really appreciate the others.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
A big dog in his own right. The great Robert Dorry,
our guest on the Petrosen Money Show. You know, Robert,
I'm old enough to remember when they said this was
Anthony Davis's team. You know, from that perspective, I mean this, this,
this has to hurt for him.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I mean, my god, well not in the pocket. But
you know it's weird though. If you look at the
way the season started out for the Lakers, it was
Anthony Davis our team. And when you get success and
other people starts feeling high on the hall, they start
stepping out of their roles and doing different things. And
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I'm not gonna call any names out, but you can
see where Anon Davis went from everybody to oh he's MVP.
He's just Anthony Davis again. And that was because the
players on the team stop using him in the right way.
And I think with him going Dallas, they gonna use
him in the right way. Put him in a position
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to be successful. And to me, you know, covering the Lakers,
watching the Lakers so much. I'm like, why are you
not using eighty? He's averaging thirty five points forty points
a game. Now all of a sudden he's an afterthought.
It didn't make sense to me. And I know when
you really sit back as a player and mean Anthony Davis,
He's gonna be like, this might be a better situation
for me to get back in that MVP voting to
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get back and lett NOBILEMA Defensive Player of the Year
and all these type of things, because as always goes
to this you don't appreciate something to his gone. I
think they gonna really appreciate what Anthony Davids providing for
them for defense and on the offensive end.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
How much of the trade, if at all, do you
think has to do with his kind of refusal to
want to play center and instead want to play the four.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
I think the Dallas team kind of like, okay, we
got two centers over even though one is out for
the year, that we can just say this will be
okay for him. I think they had a lot to
do with also, and also I think you know, the
Legers just wanted that next generation they preparing. They're using
the Jerry West vision of down the roll. Okay, we
might not win it this year, but we're gonna work
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so hard in the off season where we got to
start Luca. Hopefully we can coax someone the beild of
the brand, one of the best burns in basketball, to
come play for us. And now they have that set
up because this beyond. They're not gonna win it this year,
you know, because okay, see it's too good. The sumptings
are too good, you know, unless they get some vital,
vital pieces, because they just don't have enough right now,
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and they don't have to killer mentality. You know, that's great,
don't get wrong. They can look up and do some
great things, but in my eyes, they just don't have
it right now, especially with the loss of a d.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Let's shift to where you're gonna be tomorrow night. I
assume at poly Pavilion watching your son Chris and UCLA
taking on Michigan State. You got a taste of some
Big Ten action on Sunday between Illinois and Ohio State.
Kind of your impressions of how the Bruins have looked
so far this maiden voyage in the Big Ten, and
what you expect from them, you know, come big ten
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tournament time.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You know, I'm expecting a lot from them. They've been
an up and down team. You know. Cronin has been,
you know, trying to get those guys to buy into
the system. And it's hard sometimes when you got guys
from you know this in this day and age of
the portal, you got so many guys that come in
from a system where they the man, and you know,
do they buy into the system. I think he's finally
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to get them guys to buy in. He's got his
rotation down. You know. I hated for my guy Trent Perry.
He's not getting consistent minutes. But you know, I think
it's a learning process for him and it's gonna be good.
But overall, you know, with the way that you see
all these playing, I think the new way they're playing,
I think they're gonna do some damage because I like
the way the bigs are planning now for them. I
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like the way the guards are d n up. So
I think the damage.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Robert Ari, we gotta circle back to Lebron. James and
what I mean you did mention? You know they might
trade Lebron. You know he's got that no trade clause
and maybe wants to go be with Steph Curry or
Seth Curry, as a Nico called him. Uh, do you
think that might happen? Do you think you think that's
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that's something Lebron would would be into.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Well, it depends on what they give up for him,
you know what I mean. He's not gonna go over
there and you give up all the young talent over
there that can you know, help him not have to
play so many games and you know, do that low management.
They still get into position to win. But I don't
think Lebron is going to go just because of Luca.
You know, Luca has some match Don't get me wrong.
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He is a He's a heck of a player. He
can do some extraordinary things on the court. The only
the only bad thing about him is he he can't
get a little absent on the defensive end. So I
think LEBRONI probably waited out because when you got to
think about it, if you go to State Wars, you're
not just taking Lebron, You're taking Briannie James too, because
there's no way he gonna eave his turn.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
So you just ain't I'm gonna survive with that, is Papa.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Yeah, Papa has to.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Go with him.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The great Robert Rory incredible debut calling games against Illinois
the Illinoil House Day games.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Sounded like a guy. He really was.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It eclipsed all the Luca talk. Everybody's like, yeah, then
Luca Tray did you herri on Compass in Champagne? Hey?
That I hotel's not bad right on campus there, Robert.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
I, it's nice, but you know, money didn't didn't tell
me about that. He put me in anlo too.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's not true. You could walk right there.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Ben did it. Our travel agent did it, and it
was too late. I felt terrible. He was hanging out
in the lobby. When I came down, I was like,
what are you doing? He's like, my hotel's not great.
This hotel is I'm gonna hang out here in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's like, no, I don't know much, but I know
where to stay in Champagne or.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Exactly. I do now too.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There we go. That's it. It's a it's a student
run hotel. Those those engineering students in Illinois. I figured
it out. They keep it tight. We love you, Robert,
thanks for doing it, and we'll talk to you soon.
We sure appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Today, I guess I have a great one.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
All right, you too.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
There, he goes Robert Rory. We'll be on the call
a week from tomorrow. His alma mater, Texas versus Alabama.
Alabama the number three team in the nation. And I
get to go back to Texas with or and then
I get to go to Birmingham for the Iron Bowl,
number one versus number three Auburn Alabama with a great
Robert Rory.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Called that the Iron Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's what they called it. That's what Finebaum called it.
When I was driving in today, He's like, well, this
is the Iron Bowl. That's gonna matter. It's like, okay,
I guess I'm gonna call it the Iron Bowl, Iron
Bowl for us As Southern American. He said something they
got up underneath the skin.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Just quoting the great Paul fund Bomb that Southern either.
We'll be back with more great sports, Paul the freaking
Yankee in Disgui. Hey, Paul, tired of this yank perspective
from the South. Big thank you to Robert Noorie. We'll
be back with mar I just got a notification from
sham Sharania. What's happening? You should check your note, yess.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Or will be tomorrow. But that calf injury or calves injury,
two of them expected to keep him out until at
least February eighth, is what the original diagnosis is.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But those you know, I just think about Adam Silver
laying in his coffin with his hands crossed over his chest,
and I think about Genie and Linda Rambis grabbing onto
Lebron's either giant arm, sitting there fawning over him like
he's a nineteen thirties frat boy super jock, you know,
like Paul Horning or something.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Oh yeah, you know. Like I just like the sudden
realization from Adam Silver, like after all this this media
blitz and trying to make it working, I've got it,
lah I figured it out, plaide, Luca Tulka.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
But it does I mean, I mean there is a
certain there is. It smacks of a certain taste of well,
this doesn't really feel like a real sports league anymore
in a certain way.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And that's the uh the NFL, Patrick Mahomes, there's a script.
The refs are in the bag. They want Taylor's swift.
It's not enough to have a hot.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
But I have a different perspective in football because it's
eleven on eleven and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And one person can make right all the difference in
the world.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yes, but yeah he frozen. You hear that about the
NFL Tetrick Ewing to the Nicks, And.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, the NBA gets more than not a real sports
league than the NFL because it's one guy and everything.
I don't think any of it's real. Told Masquerade the Matrix,
except for the weekend that was real. I'm gonna do
what I do. The weekend is mine. Was your weekend, Matt?
How was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's been a bad two weeks of surf, Like it's
just been bad. So that's been Yeah. I caught a
United flight from Santa Anna to O'Hare, shared a Robert Yes,
avoid the lax at all costs. Shared a car with
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Robert or drop.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Let's skip Bayless brothers. Got that epan up list.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Uh, dinner per your recommendation at Ulahan's. Uh it was
You're welcome, Thank you. It's not just any who I am.
That's a very special night because it's connected to the hotel,
which is connected to the convention center.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Which is connected to me bone of the whole campus.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
There was a couple at the end of the bar
that was complaining that their food order never came. And
I had been served my food, my salmon teriyaki bowl
and my roasted beat south uh, and they complained that
their shrimp scampies that they had ordered had not been
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delivered yet.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
What did you do?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So I'm listening to the bar tab. How could it
was a shift change and so it got lost, and
so the profusely apologized, let me pick it up for you.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What was it you ordered to get? Whip up that
right now?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
And the guy and the pork pie hat and the
toothpig says, I got the shrimp scampy, and the gall
that's with him goes, I forgot what I ordered?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh no, And I see the menu. I believe I
ordered the file at Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So she does that and then she says herself sold,
and then she says, can I get you whatever you're
drinking as well? And she's like, I have a glass
of charden A and he's like, I'm drinking Clear Rum
to the brim, one ice cube and a can of
Red Bull. So not a Red Bull Clear Rum, but
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clear rum size cube to the rim can of red Bull,
A couple of townies, that's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
So I did that on Saturday night Sunday free breakfast
again at Hulhans. The gentleman behind me were like, is
there anything that's not healthy at this buffet? The buffet
was like oatmeal, fruit, hard boiled eggs, and then they
lifted the tray up and they were like totos and
sandwich run by the students. So that was that. Flew
home that night. Oh, the game was great, Robert Ory
(43:33):
was great. Compass Media Networks. We got some really good
ones coming up. But we heard him last segment there.
He was, yeah, so did that? Oh met Andrew Libman
l I b M A n of the you see
it on the stanchions Leadman cleaning products. He's got all those.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Great Yes, yeah, they're very popular.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
He's a yeah. He's a big u of I guy.
So we met him court side when we were walking around.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It was great. A lot of Midwestern cleaning comes through Leabman.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Cats had a fun weekend. Lala was in town. First
in San Diego. The GCU Women's Lacrosse team took on
San Diego State. They got boat raced pretty good, but
she scored five goals, so that was fine. Saturday, spent
some time in San Diego and La Joya before driving back,
and then on Sunday they played UCLA at eleven o'clock
and it was tight and early on, it was close
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at halftime, and then they got beat by the defending
national champions and women's club Lacross, so they lost to
the Brews. Yesterday, their bus broke down heading back to GCU,
so they didn't get back to late last night. But
other than that, I had a great weekend hanging out
with my daughter, my family and just kind of doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But but you were pretty geeked about Beyonce's country album Winning, right, Oh,
that's your favorite country album of all time.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
I listened to it all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Just edging out roping the wind? Is that what one?
Beyonce one album of the year?
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Very impactful album. She was kind of like Tall winning
the metal album.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah it does. Yeah, But if you don't like Tall
winning the Metal album, no one's gonna call you a race.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
It was even better when if you don't like we
ever heard it, so I cannot comment.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, it's not Tuesday, you're not in the race's zone.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Taylor Swift giving her the award or announcing the winner
then giving it to her was even better. So to
see Tea Swizzle up there with nice Yes, yeah, yeah,
Tea Squeezy Ronnie. How was your weekend?
Speaker 7 (45:16):
Well, didn't do too much at all this weekend. The
Saturday was up early to run a few errands around town.
I did get a haircut nice, and I did take
my car to the car wash, picked up a barbecue
try tip sandwich at the handy market here in Burbank.
And I was driving around listening to David Vassei and
Dodger Fest. We're going to have him on. That was
really good stuff. Yeah, Day did a great job with that.
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Sunday slept in a bit, played with the dogs, just
hung out around the house processing the Anthony Davis look
a Doncheit.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Steal a lot of process.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
Yeah, domestic chores, a wheel of death in your mind indeed.
And I did watch a little bit of the Grammys
last night, just a little bit. I saw Crungbin. It's
funny because they were talking about.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, a new artist Crungbin. She's been around for years.
They're around for seven years, but they're new to you.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Shelby Lynn Winning the new artist. The hell's that? What
about you?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Petros Well? Friday night I went. I did the Senior
Night PA at my alma mater for the pressure, the
girls and the boys basketball. We both took massive l's
but always great to be in the gym and very
nice people all around.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Extended Senior Night production video tribute not as much.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Video, but but you know the balloon arch for Dave
Weese balloon arts right, parental photographs, introduction of you know
with his mother, Naka Naka, you know, you know, the
whole deal. A lot of Asians, Matt, Yes, we got.
The girls went down to West and the boys went
down to that weird Da Vinci Wiseman Da Vinci el
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Segundo school which is right next to the Laker facility.
Those Da Vinci kids are getting a good whiff of
that Slovenian cigarettes right now as we speak. Uh So, anyway,
thank you to DJ. Thank you to DJ Clovis. The
he's the ad at Peninsula, Okay that's his name, and
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uh and everybody there. I had a great time I
always do. And Saturday, I went to yoga and my
wife and I spent the evening. We spent the night
in a friend's condo on the beach in the Redondo Corridor,
just for a little change up. My kids went to
my parents and that was very nice. Enjoyed the beach
beautiful and yes, right there on the breakwater watching people
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try to learn to surf in the morning, and saw
some dolphoods. What do you mean learn? I was there
right at the breakwater. Uh. And then, uh, what did
I do after that?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
We went to brunch at Gabby James Champagne brunch. I
had a Bloody Mary and a Greyhound. Okay, there we go.
So there was no champagne, but I did t I
did drink, and that was about it. That was my weekend.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Congratulations on your dry January. Now that we're in February,
Oh yeah, no, I've really really hit the gas.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
You guys back drinking again?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Uh yeah to find back? Yeah. Hey, some of us
walk into the house and we go straight for the bottle.
All right, just shut up, Kates.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
When I ordered the two hearted Ale on the flight home, oh,
woman next to me kind of she didn't really like,
give me a look, but was like a oh, it's
like to a seven forty pm takeoffs me.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Maybe she thought like, wow, this gringo is ordering a
great Michigan beer. Maybe she thought could be she's a
Michigan there. It's possible.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I did, however, pass out, and I think the can
slid under her lap because I was awakened when she
put the can back onto Myra's two hearted.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's a beautiful fish, beautiful fish right there, and she
can enjoy that fish right there on the can.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Damn, man, I've fallen asleep again. If you can't pass
out on a plane, it's what I seet every time
I get on a plane. I try to pass out.
I have terrible apnea. Yet I'm pee. I don't care pee.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Wake up? Yeah, you should have let me sleep, Vic.
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on a big trade happened, as you know, over the weekend,
the biggest sports day of all.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Trade Ton Trade, tung Mine. Colin Cowherd goes down with
an illness in his first segment. We wish time to shine,
We wish Colin the best. He had to take a
knee like Charlemagne, and that was tough to see. It's
tough to see people not feeling well, this is my game.
Come on, I get to do it today. We hope
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that calling feels sadels all right, but a big day
where everybody wants to have their hot take on what
they think about the Lakers trading Warriors big away. It's
very interesting because I remember, you know, Lebron saying, this
is Anthony Davis's team, and now apparently it's no longer
Anthony Davis's team. It is Luka Doncic's team, and he
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is the best player on the team. Lebron has nothing
to do with it. Lebron has nothing to do with this,
according to Lebron.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well no, according to Shams, Well according yeah, but you
know so Samp not just saying well, yeah, and look,
I would love to be a mature person and really
just dive deep into because I do dive deep into deep.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What is this trade? Why it happened? If this is
Lebron taking the hatchet to the neck of another superstar
like he has over the years. When he left Cleveland
the first time and left Kevin Love and the lurch?
Was it Love or somebody in the lurch his first
(02:57):
time around? Second time he left poor Day, I believe right,
Kyrie left in the lurch. He got Kyrie traded away
from Cleveland and then left Cleveland themselves in the lurch
something like that. Yeah, and then came here and has
done his thing. Traded away all the young guys remember that, well,
the big ad trade. Well yeah, which is when you
(03:18):
think about it. Now, the second time he's been traded
for one of the three best players in the league.
The first time he was traded was for two number
two overall picks, Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and like
five draft picks. I think three first rounders outright, two pickswaps.
That's how good of a player Anthony Davis was. And
now he's been traded for one of the three best
players in the league. You pull your uterus a few
(03:39):
times and your trade value goes down, but maybe not
that much.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And now everybody seems to like Anthony Davis. Oh yeah,
everybody's like, all of a sudden, Davis is you know,
I like what this does for the MAVs. I think
you put Anthony Davis on that team, like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're gonna be the They're gonna be the silent winners.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
He's been here for six years and he's always hurt. Well,
but last year, well yeah, that was one of the
six years that he was actually healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Every other year he's been hurt. So was it. I mean,
we didn't even mention all the coaches that have been
piled into a mass grave and covered in lime and and.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Uh, now, can I say I want to believe that
Lebron didn't know. Yeah, I'm hopeful that the weekend that
they turned a page, like you know what, enough.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, we can say all that stuff. I mean, we're
gonna have guests on to discuss it. Robert Ori is
going to join us from the player standpoint and media
analyst as a player standpoint, an old friend of the show,
and a guy who Matt did a game with over
the weekend and drove all around rural Illinois.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
With spend five hours in a car with a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So Robert ri is going to join us in the
very next segment, and then booha our friend Jovonne Boucha,
who with the team I mean, and Matt. Yeah, I'd
like to believe that the Lakers are trying to take
the power away from lebron even though his son and
hit the coach that he basically handpicked.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I wonder if that was the tipping point. Still, right,
Bronny and j J.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We could talk. We can talk about all this stuff.
We can talk about Luca just being a basic euro
trash drunk all over Dallas and that's why they don't
want him around, because he's just Slovenian trash in a
sweatsuit and they don't want him around anymore. Maybe that's
but we could talk all of that stuff, Matt, We
could talk about all of it, and that would be
the mature and the right thing to do. But we
(05:22):
are not a mature show. And the number one thing
we have to discuss is Bill Ryder. We have not
talked about Bill Ryder for you, Well, we talked about
him from time to time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can't tell you how many like Big Time interviews
I've turned down.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Bill Ryder used to work here. Originally he was hired
by FS one to be embedded with the Heat. Yes
Fox sports dot com and that was still on operation.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
New site, this brand newly constructed Lebron James Heatles team.
His name is Bill Ryder. He's gonna move to Miami.
And they told over the Heat there's a guy named
Rick Jaffey is a great guy. Rick Jaffe who was
an editor at the La Times for many years, one
of the guys who was instrumental in the development of
Mike Pereira's career and how that became a whole thing
(06:11):
in sports. So not exactly a lightweight. Rick Jaffe was
a friend of ours and a friend of mine, and
they were like, Hey, let's get this guy Bill Ryder on.
He's a good reporter, this and that.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So we would talk to Bill Ryder, yeah all the time,
and he was charismatic whatever. And it came to the
fact where Bill Ryder even, you're like, he filled in
a couple times on the show. And then Bill Ryder
we were working at FS one on some of those
BS shows. They still have all of them on stuff
like that, same similar stuff that's in you.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And he got very close.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, and then he started working here and he revealed
he revealed himself as a very difficult, kind of a
douchey guy. Keep it lit, rip City. I'm sure he
feels the same way about me. But he just he
didn't fit very well with us. He was just flowers. Well,
you just treated Vic terribly. You listened to him talk,
and only we are allowed to treat Vic terribly. You
(07:03):
listen to him talk, and you just get the idea
of what Bill Ryder's like. And hey, look there's a
guy on the TV right there, Brian Windhorse takes himself
super seriously. They think that talking about basketball and basketball
trades is literally like being Rousseau in the time of
the French Revolution. Like these guys are really self important.
And Bill Ryder was very very guilty of that. And
(07:24):
there's probably I have an issue the other way.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well, I can't tell you how many like big time
interviews I've turned down there it is.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I take that when I was handed to questions
and I refuse to ask him, and they said, then
you can't do the interview, and I said, well, and
that included former presidents.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, at least one former president. Really, I at least
take maybe don't take myself seriously enough. I don't know,
but the guy just rubbed most all of us. I
think I could be confident in saying most all of
us top to bottom the wrong way and did not
work here very long.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't know who you would. I can't think of
anyone you'd be able to find that was like No,
I like that guy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He was all right, yeah, no, he I mean at
first he seemed okay, and then it just got worse
and worse and worse. Anyway, Bill Ryder, we've not thought
about very often, unless we're just gonna make fun of that.
When when he was here and play the keep it
Lit Rep City. I can't tell you how many Keep
it lit Rep City. But Bill Ryder apparently threw his
hat in the ring of all this and went on
(08:20):
on CBSDBS dot com he's their basketball insider, and Kate
sent a snarky tweet where he was like, basketball insider quote.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Unquote, you wrote, quote unquote put it in quoteation quote unquote,
NBA insider NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, good job Kates. According to CBS, he is what.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
All got started when he posted or CBS posted a
video with his trade reaction, and he had to bring
up the fact that a.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Year ago, I said the two of them didn't get along.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
There was talk within the Lakers organization. Yeah, that Lebron
James had had grown a little frustrated with Anthony Davis.
It wasn't that necessary AD was going to be traded.
We obviously didn't report it on CBS Sports. It was
just this is something to keep an eye on. Lebron
is frustrated with AD and he doesn't think that it's working,
and that's because Lebron has very very high expectations.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
And you fast.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Forwardy a year later.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Obviously that that reporting really that information from from Lakers
sources was accurate.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Stop it from Laker sources was accurate. That information from
it my information from Lakers sources from a year ago
about Lebron not being happy with Anthony Davis to the
point where he wants to be traded. But just you know,
something to keep an eye on one year ago. I'm
sure we could dig into our archives from a year
ago and you could hear Matt saying something about how
Lebron it's tired of report on it, didn't want to
(09:36):
report on a New York City. So that is a
subdle way to give himself a little bit of credit there.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
This was probably a slow boiled Joe. And it's always
hard to know with Lebron James. I've covered the guy,
We've all watched him for years. Amazing player, amazing player.
He can be.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Let's find a way to euphanize this.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
He can be a little, a little inconsistent. Sometimes he
can be someone say, a little moody. And so this
is something I had heard about and we had talked
about a year ago. You never know, just Lebron having
a bad month of ad. But obviously Lebron had made
the consideration because you're right, this trait does not happen
without his absolute blessing and approval. Lebron clearly made the
determination that his windows longer than just this season because
(10:16):
Lucas injured, but coming back that all.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right, it's done it. Most of us are under the impression,
now maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That is in contrary to what every other reporter is saying,
even those that aren't necessarily in the in the Lebron
Like what Charles Barkley was saying this morning was, I
don't think I absolutely don't think they told them it would.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Most of us are whenever we hear that the Lakers
have made a trade, most of us. You know, you
think a genie bus hanging on Lebron's arm like a
seventeenth century damsel, and you say, this guy probably is
in the loop. In fact, I bet I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Think he had anything to do with Bronni getting drafted.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Though, Yeah, I bet I think, And I'll even take
it a step further, and I'll even take it a
step further. You go home way out of line. I'll
even take a step further. I think you might have
had something to do with this podcast partner JJ Redibi
and hired us ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's crazy talk.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, find this window whatever he thinks that is next
year or two. And the new CBA makes it much
more restrictive. There wasn't going to be the easy opportunity
to go and get a big name because of some
of the limitations. And so I think you're right. We're
speculating here to a degree. I mean, I've got some
reporting here that suggestion people that the Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Certainly looks up. Where does the reporting begin and the speculation.
I've got some reporting here, all right, here's the meat
to a degree.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I mean, I've got some reporting here that suggestion people
that Lebron certainly was involved.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But this follows a pattern.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Wheen Lebron wants to win championships, it doesn't matter if
he's twenty six or he's forty years old. And you're right,
there's no chance, there is zero percent chance this trade
happens without Lebron had a minimum giving his approval and
maybe you know, maybe a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Little bit of a show up the door for you who.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
All right, so then that is a bold proclamation. Then
Lebron Lebron.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
James respond with the serenod bersiac long nose, liar, pinocchio nose, liar, liar,
pants on fire and a clown face, call him.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
A clown, liar clown, and then wrote you and f
and lie right, you're an f and lie lie. And
then Bill Ryder came back with the very half baked
Sampson Simpson, A stick by my story, a stand by
my reporting. I'm Bill Ryder and I can't tell you
how many big time interviews, including former presidents say I
(12:29):
turned out, I stick by my story, stand by my story,
and then you know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The intrigue grows. And in one On one hand, Tim
kats Is over here saying, I want to see Bill
Ryder humiliated because not any of us, none of us
had anything good to say about him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
As you born it out, Matt Well, none of us
believe that he has Laker sources.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, that that goes beyond the point that I'd love
to believe his story. Matt.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
He retweeted his video that he put out and said,
check out the entire video to understand the context.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here, I stand by my report, and right below it he.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Got community checked. Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh it's also good.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Lebron james Is suggested that none of that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
On one hand, whether or not he has a Laker
source or not, and who knows he'd lived I lived
him in that meets for time. Yeah, Okay. On one hand,
it's like, okay, yeah, I know, Jesse Buss, you do
think he wears his hat all the way inside, like
he lives in Cochilla Valley and he's fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
We both left the flat Bill life.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
If you believe that, right, if you believe that Rider
is saying the truth, his truth, the truth, the truth,
not his truth. There's only the truth the situation, okay,
And it may fly in the face of some other reporting.
And then you look at that in the context of
the fact that they hired his bff to be head
coach and they drafted his son when no one knows.
(13:50):
But you say, okay, perhaps Bill Ryder's right. But then
you and f and Lye clown knows Bergiac knows Pinoak
clown clown, I mean, so that's uh, that's that's the
other end, and you say, wow, Bill Ryder's being humiliated,
even though Sampson Simpson is sticked by my story. And
(14:12):
then sam Amot comes with an a frame like chop
of legitimacy from the USA today and says something to
the effect of the organization is frustrated with both a
d and Lebron bitching publicly in the media for help, right,
and that they don't have enough help, which goes back
(14:34):
to three franchises ago, wherever Lebron was, Lebron never has
enough help. It's always Lebron against the world, and it's
a ridiculous thing. No one ever talked about, how do
we help Michael Jordan, How can Michael Jordan get more
help in anything?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
When Rodman was traded to the Bulls, everyone was like,
he's a nightmare. He's a guy that used to take
off his shoes and were put sham is to practice. Yeah,
they won't be able to absorb him in their culture. Yeah,
Jordan won't tolerate this bs. This was a terrible move.
That was a whole thing. Yeah, So, I mean it is.
It is very interesting and Matt, I think it goes
hand in hand. I know, the trade gets everybody excited,
(15:15):
oh handed freaking out. It is eclipsed the Super Bowl
talk at the NBA at least for the day, and
the NBNBA is back. They might have a death spasm
of a couple days here, But overall, a lot of
what's interesting about this trade, I think there's also a
microcosm of what's wrong with the league in general. Wow,
couldn't you say that? Yes, you know, Lebron James moving
(15:36):
people around, people moving around around Lebron James. It's just
the idea that a Dallas, you know, Mavericks team was
in the finals last year in the finals. Last year,
you would say of all the basketball fans in Dallas,
ninety five percent of the Jersey sold er number seventy seven.
Luka Doncic. There's kids that were seven. Still a lot
of Tyson Ler being bought, yeah, oh yeah, a lot
(15:57):
of that thirteen. And like Luca's their superstar. He's a
one franchise guy. And the idea that you no, a
team owned by a billionaire doesn't want to hand him
three hundred and fifty five million dollars because you have
to give him the Supermax. The way this is set up,
that's supposed to be able to keep superstars with their
current teams instead of having the Lakers or the Knicks
(16:19):
poach them. That's what was put into place, and that
may in fact be the mechanism that led to his
being traded. That they're like fat, smoking Slovenian with a
bunch of dudes hanging around her facility all the time
that doesn't take coaching. That is a nightmare on the
on the floor on one half of the floor. On
the other half, he's a genius. We don't want to
(16:40):
give him three hundred fifty million bucks for five years
seventy million dollars a year. We can't do that. That's
not what we want to do.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Are you saying that the guys hanging around the Dallas facility,
the slim Acti to Doncic looked like the bad guys
in one of my favorite movies starring Val Kilmer and
Elizabeth schu The Saint.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, exactly what I'm saying. Blackmock turn neck, black leather jacket,
carrying a sharp they have sharp objects, Harry Hack a scepter.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, okay, I mean I can see that. But at
the same time, you think, like, Okay, we're the Dallas Mavericks.
This guy's the most marketable thing we have. We have
not be the most marketable thing the NBA has. And
he's going through a rough time now, he's twenty five.
He's vaping up a storms fat, he eats, he looks
like he drinks right. Well, then the face bloating looks
(17:26):
like there's a lot of boost. You know, I resent that.
Uh So, perhaps why don't they just ride out the
hard times with him? Right? And he he quote unquote
grew up in the franchise. You know, Kobe wasn't always
a bowl of strawberries for the Lakers. No guy got
charged with rape, but he worked. Yeah, so you know
(17:47):
you take the hay hard work here, try to leave,
try to leave for the Clippers, right, that's true. Charge
with rape, tried to force the hand, complained about the
quality of the private jet that was flying him back
and forth from his rape trial.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
That's true story. So I guess it's the exact opposite.
Sorry to bring up old stuff, right, you know the
uh the on the court on point, Kobe on point,
off the court bit of a nightmare. So for Luca
seems like on the court, even though the production is there,
it is the the way the body looks what he
(18:19):
does not in the game. You know, Kobe would lift
after games, was always the first one there. Well, we
all know the workout work exactly, which apparently Luca has none.
I'm just saying I still don't trade it overall, He'll
is in the NBA Finals last year.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Hills and Gullies. When a guy has to grow up
on the franchise, right, I.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Think it's an Adam silver batphone call. The league's dying.
We're breathing our last breaths. I've tried everything, I've tried
it all. So how does Adam Silver, how do we
get our how do we get our league to find
relevance yet again? And I think it would be fair
to call that a conspiracy theory. It is even though
I could completely and totally see that being the case
(18:59):
because the NBA said, and Lebron's a big reason why
the NBA sucks, Yes, And I think that's a sports Yeah,
well that's him.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's what I mean. See Lebron clutch sports entity.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It all exists in and around agency, none of it
exists without player empowerment.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And he's moved people around. He's soured the regular fan
away from the league. So that I did see people say, well,
this is this is a problem with the fan. Is
the fan gets upset with the player when the player
demands a trade. Why isn't the fan upset with the
owner when the owner trades a player who didn't want
to be traded. Well, I mean, I think you're splitting hairs.
(19:35):
I think the fan is upset with the whole thing.
There's some matter how it works. Something about the NBA
right now. I mean, the people are speaking, they're not
into you know, they're not into it. And Lebron James
is the common thread in.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
My Cleveland, LA. I want Anthony Davis sports guy. I
want my son.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm gonna tweet about Kyrie Irving being guy even though
people doesn't that, yes, there is, there is the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That everybody's over it. Now.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
My favorite player should be on the team that I
root for because he's a star for his the majority
of his career hopefully.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And they're not two things. Ever, your conspiracy theory, Adam
Silver is throwing a life raft to his own league
by either allowing this or facilitating it or whatever. Uh
the other the other thing that's interesting, If this guy
has all those problems in Dallas, Texas, what the hell's
it going to be like in Los Angeles, Super Luca.
(20:31):
That's a question, right, that's a question. And then I
think the third thing, which I think we can all
agree on is that at this point there are more
questions and answers regarding this trade, a lot of questions
and and and fewer answers.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Now I will say this, it's just the here's the
here's my half class full thing. One they didn't tell
Lebron they're tired of it. The browny thing pushed him
over the edge. All the negative coverage that they're getting.
Stephen A. Smith saying, I am begging you man to
man and Lebron do.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You think that they would stop this after all the
stuff that they've allowed him to do? You think they'd
finally think.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That Jji, the fact that JJ is probably the a
hole of all a holes to have around the facility,
and they are absolutely miserable showing up at the practice
facility and seeing his face. It's interesting they are not
happy seeing Bronny that this that it's like, you know
what if we can find ourselves another superstar and this
thing lands in their lap. The way that the stories
(21:28):
being reporters that this guy Nico reached out to them
and said that Kyrie and a d are tight.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, I mean, is that is that the story or
did Adam Silver make it happen? Which one is it?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Adam Silver calls Nico okay, Nico calls calls Rob Polinka,
and now the Lakers have a bigger superstar than lebron
and they don't have to cater to as every women
in order to maintain their relevance as a franchise with
a superstar.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
If this was up to the NBA, like you said
with Adam Silver, or if this was done by the
Lakers brass Genie Bus basically and Linda Rambis with Rob
Polenka without Lebron's knowledge. It suggests two things. The NBA's
done with Lebron. The Lakers are done with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I think it's fair.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
After they've created forty after they've facilitated everything for him
up until this very moment, they've built a mountain of
crap for him to sit on top of his son
JJ Reddick, all the reporting Genie Bus with us just.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Played their best game of the year on the biggest
stage Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Genie Bus with us over the summer saying I wish
I could pay him a billion dollars more.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And that's what he's worked to us. And then they
realized and.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Then all of a sudden, the ceiling, the ceiling and
the floor fall away.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think it's quite possible that those two moves every down.
Then you know that crap Key's building and building and building,
and finally you get too much that that toilet done
flush anymore, and it comes pouring back into your house.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
At a certain point, you're saying there's a new king
of real estate.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yes, it takes over all of that s gets backed
up to the point that you fl your house with
sewage and you have to call surf pro with those
big ass green fans quite to get it all squared
away fair enough and clean it out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Matt and JJ and Bronni were the but one of
the other two huge deuces that they took and finally
clogged it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Which one is true? Did the Lakers put one of
the Caesar knives in Lebron? Did the NBA do it?
Did they do it simultaneously at that time? Did they
do it together? Did Lebron do it? Because he hates
ad just like he's hated every other one. Got sources
and everybody knows. It's not like he hasn't hated every
other one of his co stars, and there hasn't been
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turmoil with every other one of those guys in his career.
That would stand the reason. It's a very interesting conundrum.
We'll get to the bottom of it with a Robert.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Or Eric Snow didn't take his s No, some call
him pooky.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, it's very important to bring up Eric snow in
this moment. Yes, the Petcher Somebody Show continues with Robert Rii.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Next that show some Money AM five seventy LA Sports
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of that applies to this next guest of ours.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
P A great get. You had to drive through rural
Illinois to get this guy to come on. Robert Rriy
a hero to the show, seven time NBA champion, three
with the Lakers. We love Robert Riy, We love Big
Shot Rob. You see him in the Spective Sports net
and Studios talking Lakers. You hear him on Compass Media
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Networks calling college basketball games on the radio yesterday, him
and Matt Muddy Smith a triumphant All Illinois and Ohio
State and Beautiful Champagne or Band a school of engineers.
The big story is Luca to the Lakers, a d
betrayed on the Southern California Toyota Dealer celebrity hotline, it
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is the great and powerful Robert Nor a friend of
the show. Robert. How are you welcome home from the Midwest?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Oh? Thanks man? How are you pretty good?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Did Matt do what he usually does when he drives,
do a play by play like I'm just gonna get
over here. You know what of them the things like
we might need the brides here, Robert.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
No, I learned a lot about about Chicago, Illinois and champagne. Matt.
Matt was a great tour guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right over here, you'll see the most beautiful vista and
all the lab You know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
The thing about these turbines here is I appreciate Robert
putting up with my bs, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I tell you this right kind of punched everybody in
the face, including reportedly the two biggest pieces involved the
shock and awe everywhere. I mean, I know there's not
much to compare this to and it's very interesting, but
what was your initial reaction to the trade. Did you
look like Katie on the bench, like whoa what?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Hey? You know, we always talk about guys in the
lead that are untouchable, and I always felt like Luca
was untouchable. And when this happened my wife told me,
I was like, oh, that's that's yeah, someone's a lie.
But then when you know, everybody, it was so weird.
Everybody at the same time started pull up their phones
and see if it was true. And once I found
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out it was true, I started thinking who got the
better end of the deal. And I'll be honest, I
don't think you know, nobody lost in this deal. You know,
now people are like, are so high on Luca, but
if you look at what Dallas needed, they needed someone
that can play defense, and we know that's not Luca.
And you know, to me, he always felt like the
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Lakers needed a port guard and they got a good
point guard, but they lost the best player on the team.
So it was it was it was a good deal
for both teams that I think it'd be easier, you know,
for the Lakers now to build around Luke and hopefully
give him some like some hyps because right now, if
I was on that team, I'll be the tallest player
on the team.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So how like walk us through what the the people
that are saying, you know, well, the MAVs have the intel,
they're the ones that are that made this trade, so
there must be a red flag there. And you know,
the concerns about his weight, but it seems like those
concerns have been there his entire career and he's taken
him to the Western Conference finals and then to the
NBA Finals last year, so it seems like those were
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still the same concerns.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Right, Yeah, concerns are the same, but it's it's at
the mask.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
You think when you il playing with all the guys.
I remember playing with Dream my first championship. The next
year he got the camp, he was so in shape,
you know, when we got here, the shack and the field,
first camp, he was so in shape on a song.
And you think about it when you come into camp
and you're not in shape, especially coming off Olympic gyre
where you could have played for Olympics and stayed in shape,
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that's concerned. And then there's some things that people outside
of basketball don't know, and it's you know, like let
us come in now. They want to have in like
that when they come to arena, they want to to
a practice they want to bring their friends. They boys,
they barber, they stylists, you know, they chef and a
lot of organizations ain't with that. You know, you come
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in you say, okay, I'm the superstar. I can do
whatever I want. And that's a bad culture. And when
you want to build a culture in an organization, you
got to shut down a lot of those those that
outside noise and players bringing a lot of outside noise
and me knowing Jay Kidd and me knowing me too,
that ain't basketball, you know, that's that's something else. You
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try to build a culture. Right now, you think of pop.
Willdn't allow that, you know, feel won't allow that. And
those are championship of quality coaches. And I think that's
what Jakidd is and he's trying to bring something to
that organization because this is a great organization. You know,
it's a great cities, it's a great fan base. And
the way Luca was acting on the court and the
things he was doing like outside of basketball that a
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lot of people don't know about it caused some concern
and I think they addressed it all right.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I guess the question then is you know you
mentioned Pop, you mentioned Phil and we look at the
Lakers and they have a first time head coach and
JJ Reddick. Now they're playing some pretty good basketball right now,
but is JJ is Lebron? Do you think that's enough
to you know whatever. Maybe those concerns were to get
this thing right and get back to, you know, somehow
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stepping into and lucking into one of the five best
players in basketball.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah, that's that's the thing, one of the five best
basketball players. But it ain't always about one person. You
can ask every championship team that's ever been. It's about
those guys that nobody talks about. The media just kind
of like glances over and they're going to have to
get some more pieces. And the only trade bait they
got over there is Austin Vie's and Rui, So they're
gonna have to get something else. And I don't think
Lebron's going away. If you do trade Lebron, you know
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it's it's not a biggie because you have Luca now,
and so they gotta get some more pieces. This is
gonna be, you know, head scratch on what they're gonna
be able to do after that, because the history of
the Lakers is nobody wants to help the Lakers at all.
You know, you think about the great Jerry Resk got rested,
so he was able to get power and that was
probably the last big trade that Lakers able to do.
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They got power in there and he was able to
take them to a championship. So it's gonna be really
interesting what they do over there now and now that
they got Luca.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Well, you're someone that lived through it. I mean you
were traded to the Lakers, so like what and you
talked about it like this team has figured out a
way to go from Magic Johnson and then it was
just a minute there. But they drafted Kobe, they get shacked,
they get rid of Shack, they somehow find a way
to get power. Then they find a way to get
Lebron even though that's a free agent. They trade for
Anthony Davis. So, as someone who was an integral part
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of those titles, what was it like when you came
to the Lakers. Does it feel different when you put
on that jersey than when you wore the Rockets jersey,
the Sun's jersey, or the Spurs jersey.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
You know, it's a difference because you know the spotlight
is on you and it's bigger, and so you don't
want to go out there and lay eggs want to
say you can't. I remember, for me, I saw crapping
with the Lakes. Now they moved me to power forward.
I put on fifteen pounds of muscles. You know, I
did all these things to try to be prepared for
the season because the one thing about someone in Houston said, oh,
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Roberts a bum, and then you go to the Lakers,
Oh Roberts a bum, that bomb becomes bum. No, it's
way bigger. And so you have to think about that
as a player, and hopefully, you know this will work
out for both organizations, more so the Lakers because you
know we cover the Lakers that Luca learned from Lebron,
you know, comeing in shape and knowing that, yo, it
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ain't about me, It's about we, because that's the Lake
of Wayne. That's the only way you win champions. Sure,
they magnify their superstars, they get all the glory, but
you look at the b Shaws and Derek Fishers and
Robert Rory's and all those guys. They got all that
glory just as much as those guys because the guys,
the big dogs, respected them and they know they needed them.
And that's what Luca's gonna have to do when he
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get to the Lakers. He's got to really appreciate the others.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
A big dog in his own right. The great Robert Dorry,
our guest on the Petrosen Money Show. You know, Robert,
I'm old enough to remember when they said this was
Anthony Davis's team. You know, from that perspective, I mean this, this,
this has to hurt for him.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I mean, my god, well not in the pocket. But
you know it's weird though. If you look at the
way the season started out for the Lakers, it was
Anthony Davis our team. And when you get success and
other people starts feeling high on the hall, they start
stepping out of their roles and doing different things. And
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I'm not gonna call any names out, but you can
see where Anon Davis went from everybody to oh he's MVP.
He's just Anthony Davis again. And that was because the
players on the team stop using him in the right way.
And I think with him going Dallas, they gonna use
him in the right way. Put him in a position
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to be successful. And to me, you know, covering the Lakers,
watching the Lakers so much. I'm like, why are you
not using eighty? He's averaging thirty five points forty points
a game. Now all of a sudden he's an afterthought.
It didn't make sense to me. And I know when
you really sit back as a player and mean Anthony Davis,
He's gonna be like, this might be a better situation
for me to get back in that MVP voting to
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get back and lett NOBILEMA Defensive Player of the Year
and all these type of things, because as always goes
to this you don't appreciate something to his gone. I
think they gonna really appreciate what Anthony Davids providing for
them for defense and on the offensive end.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
How much of the trade, if at all, do you
think has to do with his kind of refusal to
want to play center and instead want to play the four.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
I think the Dallas team kind of like, okay, we
got two centers over even though one is out for
the year, that we can just say this will be
okay for him. I think they had a lot to
do with also, and also I think you know, the
Legers just wanted that next generation they preparing. They're using
the Jerry West vision of down the roll. Okay, we
might not win it this year, but we're gonna work
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so hard in the off season where we got to
start Luca. Hopefully we can coax someone the beild of
the brand, one of the best burns in basketball, to
come play for us. And now they have that set
up because this beyond. They're not gonna win it this year,
you know, because okay, see it's too good. The sumptings
are too good, you know, unless they get some vital,
vital pieces, because they just don't have enough right now,
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and they don't have to killer mentality. You know, that's great,
don't get wrong. They can look up and do some
great things, but in my eyes, they just don't have
it right now, especially with the loss of a d.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Let's shift to where you're gonna be tomorrow night. I
assume at poly Pavilion watching your son Chris and UCLA
taking on Michigan State. You got a taste of some
Big Ten action on Sunday between Illinois and Ohio State.
Kind of your impressions of how the Bruins have looked
so far this maiden voyage in the Big Ten, and
what you expect from them, you know, come big ten
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tournament time.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You know, I'm expecting a lot from them. They've been
an up and down team. You know. Cronin has been,
you know, trying to get those guys to buy into
the system. And it's hard sometimes when you got guys
from you know this in this day and age of
the portal, you got so many guys that come in
from a system where they the man, and you know,
do they buy into the system. I think he's finally
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to get them guys to buy in. He's got his
rotation down. You know. I hated for my guy Trent Perry.
He's not getting consistent minutes. But you know, I think
it's a learning process for him and it's gonna be good.
But overall, you know, with the way that you see
all these playing, I think the new way they're playing,
I think they're gonna do some damage because I like
the way the bigs are planning now for them. I
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like the way the guards are d n up. So
I think the damage.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Robert Ari, we gotta circle back to Lebron. James and
what I mean you did mention? You know they might
trade Lebron. You know he's got that no trade clause
and maybe wants to go be with Steph Curry or
Seth Curry, as a Nico called him. Uh, do you
think that might happen? Do you think you think that's
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that's something Lebron would would be into.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Well, it depends on what they give up for him,
you know what I mean. He's not gonna go over
there and you give up all the young talent over
there that can you know, help him not have to
play so many games and you know, do that low management.
They still get into position to win. But I don't
think Lebron is going to go just because of Luca.
You know, Luca has some match Don't get me wrong.
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He is a He's a heck of a player. He
can do some extraordinary things on the court. The only
the only bad thing about him is he he can't
get a little absent on the defensive end. So I
think LEBRONI probably waited out because when you got to
think about it, if you go to State Wars, you're
not just taking Lebron, You're taking Briannie James too, because
there's no way he gonna eave his turn.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
So you just ain't I'm gonna survive with that, is Papa.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Yeah, Papa has to.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Go with him.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The great Robert Rory incredible debut calling games against Illinois
the Illinoil House Day games.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Sounded like a guy. He really was.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It eclipsed all the Luca talk. Everybody's like, yeah, then
Luca Tray did you herri on Compass in Champagne? Hey?
That I hotel's not bad right on campus there, Robert.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
I, it's nice, but you know, money didn't didn't tell
me about that. He put me in anlo too.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's not true. You could walk right there.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Ben did it. Our travel agent did it, and it
was too late. I felt terrible. He was hanging out
in the lobby. When I came down, I was like,
what are you doing? He's like, my hotel's not great.
This hotel is I'm gonna hang out here in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's like, no, I don't know much, but I know
where to stay in Champagne or.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Exactly. I do now too.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There we go. That's it. It's a it's a student
run hotel. Those those engineering students in Illinois. I figured
it out. They keep it tight. We love you, Robert,
thanks for doing it, and we'll talk to you soon.
We sure appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Today, I guess I have a great one.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
All right, you too.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
There, he goes Robert Rory. We'll be on the call
a week from tomorrow. His alma mater, Texas versus Alabama.
Alabama the number three team in the nation. And I
get to go back to Texas with or and then
I get to go to Birmingham for the Iron Bowl,
number one versus number three Auburn Alabama with a great
Robert Rory.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Called that the Iron Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's what they called it. That's what Finebaum called it.
When I was driving in today, He's like, well, this
is the Iron Bowl. That's gonna matter. It's like, okay,
I guess I'm gonna call it the Iron Bowl, Iron
Bowl for us As Southern American. He said something they
got up underneath the skin.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Just quoting the great Paul fund Bomb that Southern either.
We'll be back with more great sports, Paul the freaking
Yankee in Disgui. Hey, Paul, tired of this yank perspective
from the South. Big thank you to Robert Noorie. We'll
be back with mar I just got a notification from
sham Sharania. What's happening? You should check your note, yess.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Or will be tomorrow. But that calf injury or calves injury,
two of them expected to keep him out until at
least February eighth, is what the original diagnosis is.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But those you know, I just think about Adam Silver
laying in his coffin with his hands crossed over his chest,
and I think about Genie and Linda Rambis grabbing onto
Lebron's either giant arm, sitting there fawning over him like
he's a nineteen thirties frat boy super jock, you know,
like Paul Horning or something.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Oh yeah, you know. Like I just like the sudden
realization from Adam Silver, like after all this this media
blitz and trying to make it working, I've got it,
lah I figured it out, plaide, Luca Tulka.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
But it does I mean, I mean there is a
certain there is. It smacks of a certain taste of well,
this doesn't really feel like a real sports league anymore
in a certain way.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And that's the uh the NFL, Patrick Mahomes, there's a script.
The refs are in the bag. They want Taylor's swift.
It's not enough to have a hot.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
But I have a different perspective in football because it's
eleven on eleven and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And one person can make right all the difference in
the world.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yes, but yeah he frozen. You hear that about the
NFL Tetrick Ewing to the Nicks, And.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, the NBA gets more than not a real sports
league than the NFL because it's one guy and everything.
I don't think any of it's real. Told Masquerade the Matrix,
except for the weekend that was real. I'm gonna do
what I do. The weekend is mine. Was your weekend, Matt?
How was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's been a bad two weeks of surf, Like it's
just been bad. So that's been Yeah. I caught a
United flight from Santa Anna to O'Hare, shared a Robert Yes,
avoid the lax at all costs. Shared a car with
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Robert or drop.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Let's skip Bayless brothers. Got that epan up list.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Uh, dinner per your recommendation at Ulahan's. Uh it was
You're welcome, Thank you. It's not just any who I am.
That's a very special night because it's connected to the hotel,
which is connected to the convention center.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Which is connected to me bone of the whole campus.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
There was a couple at the end of the bar
that was complaining that their food order never came. And
I had been served my food, my salmon teriyaki bowl
and my roasted beat south uh, and they complained that
their shrimp scampies that they had ordered had not been
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delivered yet.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
What did you do?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So I'm listening to the bar tab. How could it
was a shift change and so it got lost, and
so the profusely apologized, let me pick it up for you.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What was it you ordered to get? Whip up that
right now?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
And the guy and the pork pie hat and the
toothpig says, I got the shrimp scampy, and the gall
that's with him goes, I forgot what I ordered?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh no, And I see the menu. I believe I
ordered the file at Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So she does that and then she says herself sold,
and then she says, can I get you whatever you're
drinking as well? And she's like, I have a glass
of charden A and he's like, I'm drinking Clear Rum
to the brim, one ice cube and a can of
Red Bull. So not a Red Bull Clear Rum, but
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clear rum size cube to the rim can of red Bull,
A couple of townies, that's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
So I did that on Saturday night Sunday free breakfast
again at Hulhans. The gentleman behind me were like, is
there anything that's not healthy at this buffet? The buffet
was like oatmeal, fruit, hard boiled eggs, and then they
lifted the tray up and they were like totos and
sandwich run by the students. So that was that. Flew
home that night. Oh, the game was great, Robert Ory
(43:33):
was great. Compass Media Networks. We got some really good
ones coming up. But we heard him last segment there.
He was, yeah, so did that? Oh met Andrew Libman
l I b M A n of the you see
it on the stanchions Leadman cleaning products. He's got all those.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Great Yes, yeah, they're very popular.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
He's a yeah. He's a big u of I guy.
So we met him court side when we were walking around.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It was great. A lot of Midwestern cleaning comes through Leabman.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Cats had a fun weekend. Lala was in town. First
in San Diego. The GCU Women's Lacrosse team took on
San Diego State. They got boat raced pretty good, but
she scored five goals, so that was fine. Saturday, spent
some time in San Diego and La Joya before driving back,
and then on Sunday they played UCLA at eleven o'clock
and it was tight and early on, it was close
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at halftime, and then they got beat by the defending
national champions and women's club Lacross, so they lost to
the Brews. Yesterday, their bus broke down heading back to GCU,
so they didn't get back to late last night. But
other than that, I had a great weekend hanging out
with my daughter, my family and just kind of doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But but you were pretty geeked about Beyonce's country album Winning, right, Oh,
that's your favorite country album of all time.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
I listened to it all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Just edging out roping the wind? Is that what one?
Beyonce one album of the year?
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Very impactful album. She was kind of like Tall winning
the metal album.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah it does. Yeah, But if you don't like Tall
winning the Metal album, no one's gonna call you a race.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
It was even better when if you don't like we
ever heard it, so I cannot comment.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, it's not Tuesday, you're not in the race's zone.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Taylor Swift giving her the award or announcing the winner
then giving it to her was even better. So to
see Tea Swizzle up there with nice Yes, yeah, yeah,
Tea Squeezy Ronnie. How was your weekend?
Speaker 7 (45:16):
Well, didn't do too much at all this weekend. The
Saturday was up early to run a few errands around town.
I did get a haircut nice, and I did take
my car to the car wash, picked up a barbecue
try tip sandwich at the handy market here in Burbank.
And I was driving around listening to David Vassei and
Dodger Fest. We're going to have him on. That was
really good stuff. Yeah, Day did a great job with that.
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Sunday slept in a bit, played with the dogs, just
hung out around the house processing the Anthony Davis look
a Doncheit.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Steal a lot of process.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
Yeah, domestic chores, a wheel of death in your mind indeed.
And I did watch a little bit of the Grammys
last night, just a little bit. I saw Crungbin. It's
funny because they were talking about.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, a new artist Crungbin. She's been around for years.
They're around for seven years, but they're new to you.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Shelby Lynn Winning the new artist. The hell's that? What
about you?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Petros Well? Friday night I went. I did the Senior
Night PA at my alma mater for the pressure, the
girls and the boys basketball. We both took massive l's
but always great to be in the gym and very
nice people all around.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Extended Senior Night production video tribute not as much.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Video, but but you know the balloon arch for Dave
Weese balloon arts right, parental photographs, introduction of you know
with his mother, Naka Naka, you know, you know, the
whole deal. A lot of Asians, Matt, Yes, we got.
The girls went down to West and the boys went
down to that weird Da Vinci Wiseman Da Vinci el
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Segundo school which is right next to the Laker facility.
Those Da Vinci kids are getting a good whiff of
that Slovenian cigarettes right now as we speak. Uh So, anyway,
thank you to DJ. Thank you to DJ Clovis. The
he's the ad at Peninsula, Okay that's his name, and
(47:13):
uh and everybody there. I had a great time I
always do. And Saturday, I went to yoga and my
wife and I spent the evening. We spent the night
in a friend's condo on the beach in the Redondo Corridor,
just for a little change up. My kids went to
my parents and that was very nice. Enjoyed the beach
beautiful and yes, right there on the breakwater watching people
(47:34):
try to learn to surf in the morning, and saw
some dolphoods. What do you mean learn? I was there
right at the breakwater. Uh. And then, uh, what did
I do after that?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
We went to brunch at Gabby James Champagne brunch. I
had a Bloody Mary and a Greyhound. Okay, there we go.
So there was no champagne, but I did t I
did drink, and that was about it. That was my weekend.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Congratulations on your dry January. Now that we're in February,
Oh yeah, no, I've really really hit the gas.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
You guys back drinking again?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Uh yeah to find back? Yeah. Hey, some of us
walk into the house and we go straight for the bottle.
All right, just shut up, Kates.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
When I ordered the two hearted Ale on the flight home, oh,
woman next to me kind of she didn't really like,
give me a look, but was like a oh, it's
like to a seven forty pm takeoffs me.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Maybe she thought like, wow, this gringo is ordering a
great Michigan beer. Maybe she thought could be she's a
Michigan there. It's possible.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I did, however, pass out, and I think the can
slid under her lap because I was awakened when she
put the can back onto Myra's two hearted.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's a beautiful fish, beautiful fish right there, and she
can enjoy that fish right there on the can.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Damn, man, I've fallen asleep again. If you can't pass
out on a plane, it's what I seet every time
I get on a plane. I try to pass out.
I have terrible apnea. Yet I'm pee. I don't care pee.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Wake up? Yeah, you should have let me sleep, Vic.
We'll be back with your word number of song of
the day.
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