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April 22, 2025 48 mins
Friend of the show Dave Dameshek is in for Petros. Matt and Dave talk about signature food items by NFL cities. NFL analyst, Lance Zierlein talks about the upcoming draft. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How's the stream stream commencing broadcasting on AM five to
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While it's the.

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Longest running afternoon sports show in the city.

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All traces of Fred Rogan have been removed.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is Petros in Money, Thank You, Thank You, hosted
by Petros papadae.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Gas terrible person, he's the worst and.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Matt money Smith.

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Podcasts now Here's Petros Papadaecus and Matt money Smith.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the
guidance of another. Look on the use Petro sand Money.
A tied of the Lives Tuesday, and we have got
fifty percent of our crew swapped out for this two

(01:03):
and a half hour show. We're going till three thirty.
We got Dodgers Cubs coming up at four forty pm.
A first pitch from the Galpin Motors Broadcast booth. But
between now and then, in place of pe he will
be out today, he will be out tomorrow. On these
flexed out shows tomorrow will be a super flexed.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Weller.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Today, Colin Yee, the incomparable Colin Yee Schanoby will be
incoming momentarily in for Tim Kats, who has made his
way out to the desert to tend to his flock
of daughters. Let's go Yoats Grand Canyon University and in
place of p always always a treat, a blessing. Then

(01:49):
we get to spend a few hours with our dear
friend Dave dam.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
A show the pleasure is all mine, mad money Smith
and afterthought because the main event behind the glass, Ye,
what's the poop? Ye?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
The big booming voice of Colony sporting his uh sports
themed japangulus. Oh, so glad to be here, japangulist. I'm
glad to have Dave here. Isn't it great?

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Oh it's Amazingangelus, I love this this brand.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Is it for the kids.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
It's for the kids, Okay, you know, and I know
it's purple and gold, so you have very laker like but.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Uh yeah, for the kids. Let me ask you this, Colin,
if I may. It is a racist Tuesday. So this
line of questioning is perfectly fine for today and today only.
Much like Fubu was not for me. It was for
us by us right there in the title. And it'd
be weird being a white guy running around in the
nineties with fubu on uh. Can I rock the Japangulists

(02:48):
or people gonna give me kind of a weird look?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
No, of course you can rock. Any one can rock
the Japangulist. Have you ever celebrating Japanese people in LA
which I like to do? Right, little Tokyo. If you
go a little Tokyo, you will see this brand everywhere
on Whitey of course, yeah, I will. Yeah, okay, Right, next.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is Morgesburg. Am I late to the party on this?
Have you been down there?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
The worst cruist is down there, the whole little Germany
kind of thing, right, is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's great every Sunday you get out there. They have
all manner of foods there for you to choose from.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
If you like the German fair, which I think is of.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Course you know I do. I love my Linked meats.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Exactly, yes, in case meets you like you like the Lynx.
Have you ever been to the worst cruise down there
in the Art District.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I've not been to that one in particular. But yes,
I'm no stranger to any place.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
The worst the details of the Schmorgesberg.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, as I say, I mean, what's your pleasure in
terms of culinary choices? Well, whatever your answer is, they've
got it down there, get down there and they have
beers going as well for you.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
In a boot or in a giant stein like in
a leeder kind of thing, or what do they do?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
This is a big I think you're misunderstanding. Not s
morg is bored or it's more like a Polish It
is next to you know where Pizzeria Bianco, all those
The warehouse district is downtown, Downtown, Okay, every Sunday they
do a big open air.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I am misunderstanding.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
My apology all you know, all the food booths from
all over l A, perhaps perhaps beyond don't but you
know what it makes me think of Matt money Smith.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
My apology corrections in retractions under you.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know. I enjoy my lists, and one list that
I have going and and continue to add to is
the signature food items by NFL town. I include the UK,
the Brazil, now all the rest of it, at your
commit all of it, all of it's included played yet
not yet, But I suspect that corn beef and cabbage

(04:57):
will be.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is that what it would be?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
We'll be vying for the top spots, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I don't know. Let's let's tell me globally. It's a
pauper's meal, you know, let's think globally and act. What
about a shepherd's poe.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I love a shepherd's poe with the peas. What's very nice,
very nice with the gravy delicious?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What's better? I don't know. I turned to you. I
assume that was a rhetorical question. But in my list,
we come to the city of Los Angeles, which is
not just an NFL town, but a town twice over. Yes,
if Buffalo claims, is it it's signature food stuff, the
wing and Philly.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, the cheese claims the cheese. There's some easy ones
in there. Do we get pizza to New York? I
assume is that the is that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Think they give? I think, well, they have two teams
as well, as you may have noticed, So I think
you give them the big New York slice, right, and
maybe a corn beef.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't know, I mean, I I guess I'm wondering
what the list is is it? Is it food that
would be consumed at the stadium, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Just the signature food. Why are you making this difficult
because I want to know what the parameters are.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't know what the parameters are. Is it like,
is it food that would be consumed?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
What is the most popular foods? That's a Dodger dog.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's a Dodger dog.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Explain what's going on.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
The most popular sporting food in LA is the Dodger dog.
It's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but I
hail from the banks of the Three Rivers in western Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, PA.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So are we doing the sandwich with the fries on it?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think so? Or or parogy? Maybe a perogy? I
think snatch. Where do you think in the in these
United States? The parogy?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think anywhere there is a concentrated Polish, yeah, or
Croatian or Serbian.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
OK.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
So if you go down to San Pedro, you're going
to get yourself some really good parogis.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I agree, But listen, with all due respect to Petros
and his people, lay down there. What do you what
do you think that those peoples, everybody is an itch
or a or a bitch or a mitch or in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
When the when when the the half of my lot,
the Jewish Hungarian half, landed there on Elis Island. Their
next stop was western Pennsylvania to work in the mines.
That makes sense, Primage, And then on and then I
go uh to the to the Midwest, and then here
I am.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And you gentrified your name. He didn't want the people
on the south side of Chicago to know where you're
You're really from Smith, Smith.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
The old man is from England, you know. The wife
is the Jewish Hungarian Croatian thing, the the old man
is the Jewish. By the way, I see you looking.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
At it, Look at how much we're learning.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That's a twenty three and meter bang twenty two percent.
As a Connie Jew, I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like, yeah, my wife, my wife signed me up for
one of those things. And the and the research whatever,
the all the info came back and she said this
is going to be so fair fantastic, and I'm like,
I just I don't really have much expectation. Opened it up.
Ninety eight percent of it all from Eastern Europe a
little bit of a Taliano. But that's a you know,

(08:13):
but listen, Lay, let's act locally here, or think locally.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
What is La born and raised here? I've been here
since nineteen ninety one. Ronnie's born and raised here. They're
all welcome to weigh in.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I didn't see fossio ballet.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He's there.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Give me some built to spill and or pavement today.
What's going on, Scheck, It's been a long time, you Pittsburgher.
You what a pleasure?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
What a pleasure? So here we go. I mean I
just assumed it was stadium food, so I immediately submit
the Dodger dog is the most one of the most
iconic stadium foods in all the land.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Iconic, but so many cynics out there, it would get
knocked way down if you tried to submit a Dodger's
dog is the best food in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
No, no, not the best food.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I think we're talking about a certain style of food. Look,
you want to go to get freaking sushi at Matsuhitsu, Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
That would be That would be a roof. That's a
reasonable choice.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think Krispy Tuona rice that is so la. I
mean that is queen. Yes, it is your dog with
mustard and onions. But but there isn't anywhere you go
out for sushi and get crispy tuon a rice.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
You don't go in Miami and get that. That is
I don't think they have that in Japan, the crispy.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
No.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I'm going to weigh in here though, for going away
from stadium food, I'm gonna submit the breakfast burrito love.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It has been very la. I think I love it
very unique to l A.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Like I don't know if you're going to Mexico and
getting many breakfast big winners, you know that's a big
winner right here in l a quarter cottage right down
the street.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
We've had this conversation on Petro some money before where
I don't know if there is a more territorial food
than the breakfast burrito, as colin, just because everybody will
lo their place out.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
On Magnolia, Magnolia, sorry.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, Nixon, Maine, and and everybody will defend their breakfast
burrito joint today.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
There are so many good ones in l A. I
think that's a great one. And we have two choices. Ye,
that's the good news. You've all, we're only halfway done here. Again,
you could go the crispy tune arise taco fish.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
You know what I think it is. Maybe San Diego
claims the fish taco.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think it's the French dip. This is this is,
this is where it started, righty.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well done, and that's got a chance. That's a I
could have been something. I could have been a contender.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
E I know, Philip's better than Coals. But the varnish,
the the old speakeasy that was hidden away in Coals
closed about six months ago, devastated.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Like people, that's the thing with the closings, like can
you believe it? Clause like I haven't been there for
three years, so I can understand why it's closed. I
haven't been there, so I know.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But I'm one of society's foremost empaths. And even if
I haven't been there in a decade or more, you know,
I still.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Feel Yeah, I think I think Colin hit it out
of the park with the breakfast burrito. Pardon the pun,
as we're talking about you know, sports combined with food
and French tip those are those are two.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And just because I'm a completionist, the worst bar none
is definitely Cincinnati with what they call chili yeah, which
is in fact tomato soup are tomato juice, thin tomato
juice poured over noodles and then they say, here's your chili.
It's it's Sinci style. Have you ever had it? I've

(11:41):
had it in Cincinnati, in Cincinnati in a skyline where
you drunk, I think by definition the weekend that I
was there.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's good drunk food. It's fine, and
it is like That's the one thing about it that
I'll say is I did it consume some while quite inebriated,
and I was like, it's amazing. It was one of
those sort of but the.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Burritos as big as your head that you could get
in and around Wrigley Field.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, the alpha most definitely. And here I mean, is
there any better drunk food than the Tommy Burger? You know,
when it's two am and you got yourself a nice
chili burger with fries, and you're eating that chili burger
over the fries. Don't get the chili cheese fries. You
just let the chili drift.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No Devil's Damageek wants to throw out one option for you.
That is to me at least very la specific the
bacon wrapped wiener grilling up, sure the peppers and onions.
Walk out any bar under the cloak of night, and
that smell will hit you and you're made better for
it until you eat one. Then you're made worse. Then

(12:46):
you're gonna be real sick.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
How about this for drunk food, guys, got the two
tacos over a jack in the box, the two tacos.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It used to be ninety nine cents.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
You get two tacos, you had a couple of bucks
left after a long, hard night at party.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
In its call run single best fossio, single best order
you can make at any national fast food chain. Really
off the two tacos, n might be And remember all
there there were many fables, There were many myths. There
were many stories told about those two tacos. You know

(13:22):
that it's not really meat, that it's like engineered beef.
That I remember the first time I had ever heard that.
I was in Santa Barbara at a at one of
the people that ran kg e E, the big alternative
rock station up there when I was in my music
business days. And come back to the house, we'll have
a pop before we go out for dinner, no problem.
We go to the house and they it's it's a

(13:44):
lizard person.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You know. They got the reptiles, they got the h
they got the snake, and they got the whole thing
going on in their apartment. They're that kind of person
and uh, the entire personality. If you're a snake guy,
that's the only that's the extent of your personality. I'm
a snake right, Well, what else do you like to do?
Snake dials? Uh? And they and I said, what do

(14:06):
you what do you feed that thing? You know, am
I going to see it eat a mouse or something
like that? And they went, no, jack in the box top.
I said, I said, what they're like, Yeah, you know,
they're not even meat man, it's like a protein.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's like a protein gruel that's not meat based, and
it's very healthy for the snake. And they would feed.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Did the snake take the shape of a taco right
in the middle of it?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
No, it would. He would break it up and put
it in a bowl and the snake would come over
and munch the The delivery for someone born raised went
to the Santa Barbara City College for two years, then
to the UCSB, then working locally at the kje e
is the afternoon Drier, the evening DJ slash assistant music director.

(14:52):
It's the disposition and the delivery that you would accept. No, man,
check this out. Jack in the box, tacos and beef.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
They're like this this non beef thing, and the snake
is totally into it. I'm like, all right, I mean,
where are we going? Super Rica? And that's and we
went to super Rica, a little taco stand, and I
was ready to take him out to a nice dinner
and you know, thanks for playing. I don't know what
it was at the time, Portishead or or something along

(15:21):
those lines, and Harvey danger. No, let's go to super
Rica and get some two dollars soft tacos and a
bowl of cheese.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
A man, if only there had been a reality show
following around a young Matt money Smith as he made
his way out of the rugged business of music. Oh
what a what a story that would be several seasons.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
What do you have to get? It's just I just
got to get a little sun, little something. You just
gotta let this guy's into a little something. I just
got to get it, you know. And so here's here's
a development. Lancer Line is going to join us in
the next segment. By the way, our old friend from
over at NFL Network, he is the guy that writes
up every single draft profile. Strengths, weakness is projected round grade,

(16:02):
what number linebacker in the linebacking clad. He does six
hundred players for the NFL Network, and every single person
on TV that's talking during the draft is using his
cribbage note. He's the one that makes up the note.
So you want to know something about any player, any round, undrafted,
priority free agent, he's the guy to ask. The draft
starts Thursday in primetime. Our friend Lance is going to

(16:24):
join us in the very next segment. Before we get
to that, I think it's worth noting Petros is not
here today. He's not here tomorrow. Normally we would simply
wish him well on his vacation for a couple of
days that he has certainly earned. He rarely takes time off.
But the kids are on spring break and he's got

(16:44):
the family's got a house in the desert. They like
to head out the Palm Springs for a couple of days.
I'm still hoping that's the case. As I contacted him,
last night, and we were in touch a little bit
earlier this morning about going to be able to get
out there. Our dear friend, one of the ancillary accounts
that follows the show and does a great job supporting

(17:05):
the show, PMS Dead and Alive on Twitter posts the
Dead and Alive guy birthday the day every day with
a little sentence or two celebrating the selection that we've made.
Also solid opinion, sometimes critical, which I'm okay with, no
problem being on budsman. That's fine. Take their criticism to
heart and I maybe adjust from time to time. Sometimes

(17:26):
it cuts me deep and I stare at it and
think about it. But steal trap for a brain up
there when it comes to the memory, this guy or
gal who knows, And when we brought up Petros's situation yesterday,
he sent a tweet that said, I cannot believe you

(17:48):
put this on him. This is your fault. This stems
from a conversation just a couple of weeks ago, to
which I said, I don't remember that. I don't remember
it being just me that was part of this. And
sure enough our and PMS Dead and Alive dug into
the annals of the Petros Money Podcast and found the
moment and yes I was the your You know what,
Here's here's how it all played out. Do you guys

(18:11):
see people fighting at the Braham Mall over the weekend
for the La Barbie. Yeah, big time. I'd hope they'd
all get shingles.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
My father suffered for shingles. Man out there, you uh
the Clippers will take off the Denver Nuggets in the
first round.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Get the shot?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh God, that hurt. Why did I have take a
sip of water? Suns fired? Mike budenholes after last, have
the same thing, the shot. I don't think I have
to get the shot, yet I still get it anyway,
so painful. I'm sorry, but I don't think I need
the shot. Petro's found out over the weekend he has shingles.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, he didn't get the shot.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Didn't get the shot. Two weeks later, two weeks lent
my mother like at the timing, I don't know why
I said that the people that were in line for
the Lebron Barbie, the Lebron Kendall should get shingled, But
for whatever reason, that's what came out of the mouth.
We then had the discussion how each of us had
recently experienced our his father my mother in law selling
the merits of getting the shingles vaccine and me saying

(19:20):
I was like, I'm not old enough for shingles, and
she's like.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You're old enough. I'm not old enough.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I'm not getting the shingles vaccine. I'm not old enough.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're definitely old enough.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I just added, it is.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
So painful, and I'm like no, And sure enough, here
we are a mere two weeks later.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Believable you you somehow spoke it onto his person.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Terrible right now he participated well, I asticipated right, because
he also mocked his father for telling him like, if
you listen, listen again, You're right. Listen again here, especially
the first half. You guys see people fighting at the
Braham mall over the weekend for the La Barbie. Yeah,
big time. I'd hope they'd all get shingles.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
My father's affraid for shingles matter up there. You uh,
the clippers will take all the taper nuggets in the
first round. Get get the shot.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Stuff in there. Mockery, right, I wish shingles upon the
people in line for the Lebron Barbie. Petros's father encourages
him to get the shot, Petros comes down with shingles,
an incredibly painful, uncomfortable affliction.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Couple follow ups contagious, No, not contagious. Good. So I'm
sitting probably where Petros typically sits up.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Ok.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Good, that's the first one.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You're good. Two.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
If somehow he put it out there into the world
and the universe decided to put it right back on
to him, aren't you next?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, here's my pushback to that. If in fact that
was the case, I was the one that should have
got the shingles. I get it, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm I initiated that conversation. But he mocked his own father, right,
So maybe what what is the gravest of sin there?
Me wishing shingles upon strangers that have done no ill

(21:04):
harm to.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Me, disrespect to one's own elders. But yes, he had
it coming, and I mind's the mother in law. It's
not you know, I've gotten the same warning. I don't
know what happens with the shingles jazz, but it doesn't
sound good. Everybody across the board says, misery is coming
your way. Now what I did do last year, right
around twelve months ago? In fact, I got probed for

(21:27):
the first time.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, that in the backside. Put out you you've gotten
the probe annually. I've had it three times now really annually.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
So they found something when they were in.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
There, No, but annually they check it because my father
had prostate cancer. So because of that, because it's in
the family, every year I go in, because it's in
the bloodlines. It's like, all right, here we go, and
I'm like, eh, and I I've told the story on
the air before. My doctor, God bless him. He's wonderful,
you know, General GP. He's a very large Spanish man,

(22:01):
very large hands, oh like very when when the first
time I went to him, when he shook my hand,
it's the first thing I thought of. You know, this
was before the test, before the before the probe. This
is you know, two three, four years before we're doing
the probe thing. But from that moment, I seriously considered,
I might have to find somebody else. That is not

(22:22):
something I am interested in right there, that is, that
is not something I want to sign.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Up Doctor Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Whatever doesn't make it because his hands are too small
to get drafted or to throwologists.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You'll haven't shied, so yeah, that's not comfortable.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Wait a second, though, I'm not talking about I'm not
talking about the JV of Drop them turn around, you
crack a little joke. He's like, Oh, I don't like
this any bed more than you. Dude puts on the
glove and I got an eerioscopy. I'm talking about industrial. Yeah,
they knock you out, knock you out cold, all the
rest of it. I wish they knock me out for

(23:00):
the general probe. All right, we got to talk to Lancer.
We do, we do, and Edward's giving a finger of
his own to the Lakers. Not must win, can't lose, though,
must win can't lose.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
It's not must win, but can't lose.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Different.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah that's fair. Uh Zerline, We'll talk a little bit
of NFL football, NFL Draft with the man that knows
more about all these prospects than any other Raiders Pick six,
Chargers twenty two, Rams twenty six, all teams of a
great interest here in the Greater LA area. Lance will
get into all of that and some of the buzz
surrounding the draft and what this thing could look like

(23:40):
come five o'clock on Thursday. That'll be next, let's show
some money in five seventy LA Sports Live Everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app play by play. We got all the
games being played on a station today. It'll be Dodgers
Cubs after a day off yesterday, Short one two gamer
Dodgers Cubs first pitch, four forty pm. Dodgers on Deck
three point thirty pm. Dave curating a series of interviews

(24:02):
for Dodgers on Deck today, So be certain to check in.
Had three thirty Clippers huge victory last night. We'll get
into that game, into the game two. What did you say, Scheck?
Not a must win, but but a.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Close cousin of must win is can't lose, can't lose
because must win indicates that if you lose, the season
is over right, which is not the case. They'll still
go and play games three and four.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Can't lose, but you do? It's like, uh, you really
couldn't do that?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, then you maybe want a debate. Is it worth
getting on the plane?

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
We save the fuel, move some scratch and push it
into twenty twenty six, you know, and move forward. Yeah,
all right, here we go, joining us right now. He
does it for NFL Network for NFL dot Com. You
click on that draft tab and you're telling all your
friends you know everything there is to know about this
third round, say third round tight end out of Oregon. Oh,

(25:05):
I love Ferguson more than fan And yeah, all you're
doing is regurgitating this man's words verbatim, pretending like you
know what you're talking about. He is the best of
the best. He's on TV all week over there on
the NFL network. It's the great Lancer line. Lance around
with Scheck and me, and we're very excited about this draft.
We got the Raiders picking six, the Chargers picking twenty two,

(25:26):
the Rams picking twenty six. Of those three teams, which
do you think will have the biggest kind of like
I've raised my eyebrows, wow kind of selection.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Ooh, that's a good question. I would say. I would
say the Rams fall into that category. I do I
think that. I think no, you know what, I don't know.
It's tough. I don't think the Chargers. I think we'll
just see the highest rated Michigan player on the board
and we'll plug that in with the Chargers. And That's

(25:55):
what I'm doing in every Mott draft I've had, is
I've just I've had just put different you know, I've
just put different Wolverines there. No, I think I think
the one that could surprise, because you never know what
less Need will do is the Rams. I'll say the
Rams could be the most surprising.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Well, what about the Raiders. The surprise would be if
gent d comes off the board before they go. I
think it's I think it's widely understood that that's where
the Raiders are going, but now there's Jags buzz and
otherwise that somebody in front of them might get him.
How how valid is that.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well, I think it's valid. I think anytime you anytime
you start seeing some mock drafts change, you know, you
look at who's saying it. Daniel Jeremiah is the guy
that that just put that just plugged uh plugged gent
in over there. So I pay attention to that kind
of stuff. But you know, Gentsy's been going six to
he's been going six to the Raiders, and a lot

(26:52):
of mock drafts I've been putting Jaalen Walker there. I
gotta feel like Jalen Walker has the type of mentality
and temperament and leadership football character that is a way
for the Raiders to hit reset on their defensive side.
Let's face it, the Raiders are in a reset. They've
got to get this team rolling in the right direction.
So you want to get the right people in the
locker room. So for me, I think Jalen Walker would

(27:14):
be who can play linebacker or rush of passer. He
would be a great fit over there. But then you
know they've got they've got online help that's needed. So
if Gent's not on the board, it really opens up
a lot of different avenues for the Raiders. So you're right,
check that could be a really interesting pick. If Gensy's
not there, he's on the Genty's on the board. I
think everyone's of the mind you just plug him into

(27:35):
the Raiders and keep moving.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
So let's let's just say he is and that's the pick,
because there's you know, you kind of go through the
history of first round backs and you see when they
go to teams that aren't very good, they really don't
do much and the teams don't win much. And you know,
you look at what Saquon did the moment he got
to Philadelphia with this great offensive line, this great defensive line,

(27:57):
you drop this elite back there and banged Super Bowl
five years, six years in New York and he puts
up good numbers, but they don't win. So if the
Raiders draft Genty, like does that because I think fans
would think, oh, this is going to dramatically change the
outlook on our season. This is running backs matter. Now,
We're gonna win ten eleven games. But like, does Genty

(28:19):
have as big of an impact as a Jalen Walker
on that defensive line with Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby would.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well, I think he could. One of the things that
I think is special about Genty is that he can
create yards for himself. But there's a limit to it, right.
I Mean that's why my comp form is Ladanian Thomlinson
because I thought LT did a lot of that with
the Chargers back in the day. He didn't necessarily have
spots to run sometime and he'd end up with a
ton of yards. It was amazing how he created for himself,

(28:46):
and I think Ashton Genty can do the same thing.
The problem is, like you mentioned money. You know, I
had a high grade on Jon Robinson. I think highly
of Jon Robinson, but you see he's not tearing the
world up right now because in the NFL, you've got
to have those guys up front. You've got to have
some threat of the passing game. It's got to be there.
So you know, it's getting to the point now where

(29:07):
you got to balance out. You need a running back
to help out. And if the Jaguars were is you
guys talked about earlier, if Jaguars were to go with genty,
I'm sure you're doing that to take pressure off the quarterback. Well,
you also need a quarter that works. Conversely, if you
don't have any threat of the pass, which I would
say Gino Smith helps, but you don't have wide receivers
over there. So I mean, looking at the roster for
the Raiders, there's so much needed that I don't think

(29:30):
one player is going to make any one difference. I
mean honestly, and I have gent as the number one
player in this draft. He's my highest graded player. But
if I'm the Raiders, I'm open to trading back all
over this draft because, first of all, the draft gets
really good in the twenties. I think there's a lot
of parody from the twenty to the forty range, and
there's a lot of help with pass rushers and running backs.

(29:53):
There's running backs all over this draft. I'm trying to
add picks if I'm the Raiders, because we got a
lot of holes to fill and we've got a lot
of the right guys, the right kind of Raiders that
we want in the building. And you have to reset
the core culture I think in certain position groups, and
that's why I think Jalen Walker is a good fit there.
And yes, Jalen can get after the quarterback as well.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
How much in the copycat league are the other thirty
one teams looking at how the Eagles just got it done,
which is to say dominating at the line of scrimmage.
That's what they've done for a decade. That's why they're
playoff relevant every year because they continually load up there
almost at the ignorance of the QB. Everybody else who

(30:37):
is a legit contender has the guy at QB, and
Jalen Hurts ain't bad either. So are teams now now
looking at it as though there's a different way to
skin the cat or should everybody who doesn't have the
guy at QB going into this draft and understanding that
the one guy who people are kind of excited about
but not over their skis about is cam Warre and

(31:00):
then a bunch of questions about Shadoor and Dart and
Milrow and all the rest of it. Do you still
in the QB league reach or otherwise? In the first
round if you don't have a QB do you try
to get one of those guys like I say, Dark
Shadoor or otherwise?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I mean, I think that when you look at it,
historically it ends up failing miserably when you reach, and
it also costs your job if you're a head coach,
if you're a general manager. When you draft the first
round quarterback and you don't develop them, you're done. You're gone.
So you better have a certain level of conviction if
you're going to take a quarterback. But then again, you know,
we saw the Colts and they waited and waited. They

(31:38):
weren't drafted early enough to get one. They go Matt
Ryan and you know, Philip Rivers, they went Carson Wentz
and eventually they were inside the top four and they
were stuck with Anthony Richardson and so it didn't work out.
So I get the desperation. There's no guarantee that that
perfect quarterback is going to come your way. And Jalen
Hurts was definitely not the perfect quarterback. When the Eagles

(31:59):
draft them, they had a vision for him, they had
a plan for him, and it works. And I do
think that that Jalen Milroe benefits some from Jalen Hurts
his success, but I think that's the wrong read. Jalen
Hurts is a better passer than mill Roe coming out.
Jalen's a different type of player than Jalen Milroe. I
think that's I just I don't think that's a good comparison.

(32:19):
But I have heard the teams are looking at that
the copycat that's happened in shecheck is not the quarterback.
The copycat is happening with defensive tackles and ends who
can rush the passer. Everyone is looking for ends and
tackles to rush. Everyone is hoping to load up and
this really loaded defensive tackle and edge draft. They're all
looking to replicate what first the Giants did with that

(32:43):
NASCAR package or whatever they used to call it, that
they got after Tom Brady with and now that the
Eagles have done where they just have rush all over
the place, that's the new model that people are trying
to copy. This we might not be able to find
the quarterback. But I bet we have a better opportunity
to find the rush that can make it hard on
quarterbacks to have success against us.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Let's talk about some local guys. Lance and it's Lance Zerline.
You can follow him on Twitter. Get the latest. It's
Lance and then Z I E R L E I
N is how that words? How about let's go to survey,
Let's go friars and I believe most a lot of
boards have these guys ranked kind of next to each other,

(33:22):
all in the top ten for the most part. Team
Max slid a little bit. But how about Ted McMillan
and Mason Graham and h are we going to hear
these guys have their names read in the first I
don't know hour of the broadcast. Are these top five picks?
Top ten picks? What do we got?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I think I don't think McMillan is going to be
I think he's going to fall out of there.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I just I just think, what's the deal there?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Well, the concern there is on tape, there is some
real concern with how he gets into his routes. He
doesn't run with any kind of drive in a drive phase.
The question is a lot of people think he's going
to be contested all the time, that he's not going
to be able to separate. He ran into four or fives.
His time was fine. I didn't have a problem with
his time. With his size, he's an elite ball winner

(34:07):
above the rim. I mean you know that. I know
that anyone who watched any football knows that. I think
the big concern with him is how competitive is he
when he's got physical corners on him? And is he
going to play to his top speed because sometimes he
just has a tendency when you watch him to coast
because he knows that when the ball goes up, he's
going to win it. I mean, if it turns into
a jump ball, he's going to beat most of those corners. Well,

(34:28):
he's not going to be playing against those corners. He's
going to be playing against much tougher corners. And I
think there's there's a real concern with in terms of it.
There's a real debate about whether or not and you
know Hunter, Travis Hunter is in a different class. So
we're we're gonna call the first wide receiver. Hunter is
a cornered wide receiver. Whatever he is, there's a debate

(34:49):
right now, between McMillan and Golden, who's going to go first? Now,
I surveyed five different teams that got three McMillan, two Golden,
So I think that's up, you know, up for debate.
It's not a great wide receiver draft, but I don't
think he goes in the top ten money. I do
think Mason Graham, well, Mason Graham on tape is good,
not great. There's some belief that if they play to

(35:11):
their very highest levels, Kenneth Grant and his teammate will
end up becoming a better pro because he has better traits.
But Mason Graham is so safe, like Mason Graham is
going to He's going to come in play every snap hard,
He's going to have an impact. He never lets offensive
lineman have any breaks. Whenever he's lined up across from him.
They like to move him around the line so he
can move around and play in different different defensive schemes.

(35:34):
And I think that level of consistency means he is
going to be in the top ten. I would say
the inconsistency of the tape for McMillan hurts his case.
The consistency of tape, but the lack of traits. You
know you have a lack of traits, but the great
consistency for Mason Graham is going to help his case
in the top ten because you know you're drafting a

(35:54):
very safe pick.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
LZ, let's keep it local. But with the two pro
options here. And I really do like the Rams. I mean,
they were a play away from beating the Eagles in
Philly in the division around then who knows what happens
if they catch the comedies, they probably wind up in
the Super Bowl. I like the Chargers in year two
with Harbaugh. I think we kind of have gotten far

(36:17):
enough away from the Niners experience and otherwise that Harba
in year two is probably going to deliver a high
end team. So can either or both of those teams
get real close in terms of Super Bowl contention with
one player in the first round? And if so, who
is it? That's a completely fair question, right, pick all

(36:38):
the people in the world available for the draft and
plug them in and put them into the Super Bowl
as a result.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, you're the same guy that made me draft at
what made every team had the first pick of the draft.
Thirty two teams had the first pick of the draft,
and I went through all thirty two.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
So an exercise that's a fun exercise. It is illuminating
to see how teams think and what their team needs
are and other with someone smart like laying that's.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Right, I would say I would say the Chargers have
the better No, not with DeVonta Adams. I actually think
the Raiders. I mean the Rams have the better shot.
I think the Rams would have to trade up. I
don't think they're going to go get their help at
twenty five, that they that they can do that. But
if you made a move up and you went and
got your hands on one of those tight ends, so

(37:22):
you got your hand on the top cornerback in the draft,
you know, not obviously named Travis Hunter. If you're willing
to do something like that, I think you have a chance,
maybe because you've got the quarterback in place and ready,
and I would argue that it's pretty equal between the
two teams. I think the Chargers, you know, that last
game against the Texans notwithstanding, the Chargers have a lot
of a lot of positive things to look forward to.

(37:44):
And and remember it's not just the first pick of
the draft. Check it's going to be you know, I
think the second round in the third round could have
a big impact. We saw the impact here at Verse
and Brandon Fiskad last year with the Rams right off
the bat. So I do think that if the Chargers,
you know, I think the Chargers are right there with
the Rams in terms of being able to find an

(38:05):
impact player. Listen, maybe maybe they move up and grab
Omarion Hampton and now they're going to take some pressure
off the quarterbacks, you know, take some pressure off the quarterback.
Maybe they move up and they get their hands on
whoever they think is the number one wide receiver in
this draft. There's a couple of different ways that the
Chargers can go that I think can drastically improve them.

(38:26):
With the Rams, I think that they have a little bit.
I think the base is kind of set up. You
described how they were very very close to getting, you know,
into a super Bowl. It wasn't that far away. There
was just you know, they were maybe a play plane
half away, two plays away. So I think it's I
think it's a tough call between the two of them,
but I do think the Chargers have a chance to

(38:47):
make an impact draft. It can have a bigger impact.
But I think the Rams are maybe just a little
closer to if they trade up, they could maybe click
that final tumblr to open up the vault and have
a real legitimate shot at the NFC again.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
All right, real quick, Lance, So I know I got
to go. Just on your way out, who do they take?
Just give us say this is who I think will
be there and who they will select. Raiders, Chargers, Rams,
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Raiders? Let's go. I'm gonna follow DJ's lead. So if
he's got genty off the board, I'm going to go,
and we've got will Camp off the board. Will We'll
go with Jaylen Walker there. With the Raiders, I'll stick
with what I've had in my mock draft. I will
go with the Chargers Kenneth Grant defensive tackle Michigan. And

(39:33):
with the Rams, I am going to have them trade
up into the draft into the teams, maybe sixteen with
the Cardinals and go take Jday Barn cornerback out of Texas,
who can play safety, he can play outside corner, he
can play the nickel.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
All defensive players. People in LA. They'll appreciate it when
it helps him win Super Bowls. Maybe not the flashy
Ashton gent D Colston Loveland, t Mac or a Mecca
Buka selections that they might be pining for, but instead
certainly pieces that will help him out.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Lance five, you know what, I'm fine we can if
we don't trade back, we're going to twenty seven ago. Okay,
we don't trade back, We're staying there.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Lance, are the best. Looking forward to seeing you today
on NFL Network. There he goes Lancer line. He'll be
on path to the draft a little bit get hit today.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Didn't get the Houston signature food stuff. He's a foodie too.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Big foodie, big food. He took me to a freaking restaurant.
We went out to dinner in Indy and with our
friend Joey Moulnaro and U and another fella who does
all the nil stuff for pretty much all of the
sec And Lance is like, yeah, coming out to dinner
with us, it's gonna be great. When I take Lance

(40:50):
out to dinner, we go to a pizza joint or
maybe a fancy pub, you know, with with nice burgers.
It takes me to this freaking this curated then you
you don't even order like an individual plate. You're ordering
four courses, which like four course meal, would you like?
It's the only potential Michelin Star restaurant in all of Indianapolis.

(41:12):
The head chef came from New York City. Oh, his
kids are in school here and he wanted the slower Like, dude,
what are we doing man? And I think my bill
was somewhere in the multiple hundreds of dollars for portions
that were about the size of like honestly, like like
the size of a fifty cent piece, you know, an

(41:33):
inch thick. It was.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Ayleenes. I grew up on Italian beefs on the South Side.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I was like, man, dude, it's good, right, So yeah,
I guess the octopus was great. You know, the barata
salad was fantastic. Know your audience, Selzy, but big thank
you to Lance all right, Dave damasheck in here for
p still have a lot to get to obviously, Lakers
Wolves tonight will get in that. Arguably one of the

(42:02):
greatest playoff nights in the history of the opening round
of the postseason in the city of Los Angeles. What
we were able to experience last night. We'll get into
that as well. Joel Klatt, Joe Douglas, former general manager
over there with the Jets, will be on that coverage.
We'll have Clippers playoff basketball that night against the Nuggets.

(42:22):
That'll be a game three, very exciting, two days off.
We'll get into that contest in the next hour with
our top story of the day. What a night for
play by play in our city, the Kings and the Clippers.
You could not go wrong whichever one you got stuck on.
But you also could not go right whichever one you
got stuck on if you weren't active with the Flipper.

(42:44):
But we'll do that in the next hour. We kind
of went up against it because Lance was doing such
a bang up job. I just figured we could put
a put a period on the end of, or at
least finish off that sentence that Lance started here Scheck
because so many people it's an NFL world, you know,
and hope Spring's eternal. And obviously the Rams you talked

(43:05):
about it. One fourth down misstep away from perhaps knocking
off the Eagles. You're hosting the NFC championship game. Maybe
you make your way into the Super Bowl. The Chargers
splendid first season with hardball eleven wins, their warts show
up and are magnified in a contest against perhaps the
worst matchup they could have had with that front of Houston.

(43:27):
And then the Raiders, who you know, are back practicing
already voluntary workouts. Pete Carroll out there slapping his gums,
chewing his bubble gum and throwing the ball around, not
like he's seventy three, but a spry fifty three, and
all of these teams have all these fans have circled like, oh,
if only Ashton Genty is there for the Raiders, that's

(43:47):
our ticket to.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
The Super I get it with the Raiders, but you know,
you do have to kind of look around the neighborhood
and it just so happens, and things change radically in
eighteen months in pro football. But as it stands right now,
I mean, you don't want to be the Raiders, not
with the Broncos coming on, with the Chargers building towards
something with Harbon, and then of course the Mahmes.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Is Here's here's the point. I was going to ask, though,
of all the sporting events you can watch, is there
anything dumber than watching the NFL Draft? Is there anything
considering how popular it is, the millions upon millions of
people that watch the NFL Draft, is there anything dumber

(44:30):
that you could watch? Because you are so engrossed and
addicted to your favorite team that you're willing to sit
and watch a stage and stiffs go up to electern
and announce names off the card. I've been watching it
since before it was cool, That's what I mean. Yeah,
you know, it wasn't wasn't any prime time business.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I may sit there for fifteen minutes in between picks.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
We got married on April sixteenth. The first round of
the draft was April seventeenth, the morning after the even
in which we were married. We had a brunch set
up with all of the family that was in town.
We were late because I had to wait to see
the Chicago Bears select Cade McNown trade back in the
druss so they were supposed to pick it like six

(45:15):
and I was like, here it is Donte Culpepper, new quarterback.
The Bears have traded back. I'm like, who they did what?
And then we had to sit for another ten minutes
or whatever, thirty minutes before we went downstairs. Everybody's already eating. Boy,
that is another sub wildly embarrassed it is. You know,
we always talk about the halves. The Los Angeles Lakers

(45:35):
at the Pivot have pretty consistently had a difference maker
in a good way.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yes, for the last half century or so. The other
side of that coin is it's almost harder to do
what the Bears have done, which is, for fifty nine
years of the Super Bowl era nothing. The best quarterback
that they ever had was Jay Cutler, Jay Colors, the
best you ever did in fifty nine years, that's the.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Best apps Number nine would have had a bright future,
had the most egregious of personal files.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
The dirtiest play in the NFL history of the NFL,
the dirtiest play. If you haven't seen it, kids, Charles,
google it. Google Charles Martin. It's so infamous that that
is what pops up like it's the twenty first century
of an obituary. When you google somebody and something horrible
shows up. That's Charles Martin because he picked up Jim McMahon,

(46:27):
the starting quarterback, the star. Seconds after the play is over,
at the height of there would be diste They won
the Super Bowl, and arguably better in eighty six, the
defensive lineman mean four seconds after Jim McMann throws it downfieldily,
they're just standing there, literally standing next to you, just
standing looking at how the play finishes up like, yeah,

(46:48):
did he catch you out? Oh, by the way, I'm
gonna pick you up and spike you on your right
shoulder and the rest of your career.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Rageous. Hey real quick, Yes, I think you and I
used to wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
You and I showed a little bit of class with
Lancer line down in Houston, Texas. R old pal. Neither
one of us brought up what happened to the Rockets
could have Yeah, I don't think he cares because we're classy,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I think I think you'd be like, yeah, how about that?
And then it falls flat. You're like, oh, I thought
I was going to give him a good ribbon. Instead
he's like, yeah, you know, they're not ready. That's just
that that would have been. But am I right? Is
the draft the dumbest thing you can watch as a
sports fan? The combine oh good one, combine that the
draft is certainty you know which players coming, and.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Selection Sunday, But for March madness is good. I like,
I like the sporting events that involve no actual sports, right,
I think that the selection Sunday is a good one.
The NBA Draft lottery when David Stern used to reach
in and fill and feel for the refrigerated card right

(47:55):
for New York. That was always fun. I think that's
a good one. I'm going no. Oh, the media night
at the Super Bowl. People pay money. Do you realize
what the host city for the Super Bowl? When they
do the medi the two teams come out and do
the podiums, and I go out and I like to
ask the players and coaches if the Super bowls a

(48:16):
must win game one. But the people in the stands
pay twenty five dollars to sit there at a great
distance up in the upper deck to watch little ants
wearing football jerseys talk to people, to have conversations that
the people can hear. That's the thing. Go attend.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Okay, word number song gonna get into Clippers, nuggets and
Kings oilers. What a night. If you weren't paying attention
by did you miss out on some exciting on field action.
We'll do that in the next hour.
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