May 7, 2025 • 37 mins
Number, Word and Song of the Day. Hall of Famer James Worthy on the end of the Lakers season and how they move forward with this roster. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day.
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Kong Me Use Petros and Money is Following a Dodger's victory,
they make their way to Arizona, No rest for the
weary game. Six of ten straight in ten days, and
they're off to a blazing start thus far, taking two
of three in each of these first two series, knocking
out the Marlins. We mentioned it in the very last
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segment when we hit the air land and neck with
his first win, and Kim with a hell of a
display getting the start again, this time out in centerfield. Offensively, defensively,
couple things little, you know, a little sideways on it,
but hey whatever, and of course pe it likely will
carry over till tomorrow and pretty much for the rest
of eternity. The return of your father's favorite player since
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Andre Ethier retired.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
James Autman a three run home run. Yes, my father
very excited. I believe we have the sound from the
postgame interview. Here's James Outman with the shout out for
the dawn. Thanks a lot, James, and you're number one fan.
John Papadekas sens his call of the Wild to you, Tarzan.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, thank you, John, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Wow, quite a shout.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I think if Dave had exhibited the call of the Wild.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He would have done it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Appreciate it. It's good laughter from our man, Jacob. We
appreciate that for CIRT. I had an unfortunate laugh the
other day. I can't remember what it was, but I
remember texting you saying, Wow, that was an unfortunate laugh
by me. Nothing worse. There's truly nothing worse when you're interviewing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Was it not somebody saying something heavy or.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was he just no, somebody was saying something and I
gave it like, oh wow, I had to text you
that said, oh that was unfortunate. But such just the
career we've chosen, well man.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, you know, the paths we've taken are not exactly
the most you know, but hey, what a what a
great time to be alive, What a great time to
be doing great sports talk right here on M five seventy.
LA Sports will be on tomorrow starting at two o'clock,
as the Dodgers will be of course in Arizona. Okay,
we have a lot to get to, Matt. James Worthy
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is next. We have the dad and a live guy
burnt the other day, and like we've been dealing with,
not a lot of time in the city to see
you DoD to enjoy ourselves in the world of great
sports talk. So let's get it started with the word
of the day. His words. The word of the day, Matt.
Today's word is three, as there are three guys that
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just keep popping into my head these playoffs, and it's
only because of you, you know. If the Clippers were
like randomly playing one of these teams, you would just
start saying the guy's name, and I'd be like, yeah, what,
And now it's just watching the NBA playoffs and it's
just nailed into my head. Number one lugians Dort.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, Dorty Dort.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Ok. See like you also say Matt mon trel is
from and he played at Arizona State, undrafted but valuable
for OKC and all these home teams are down. But
that's your guy, Dort. And every year, all year, whenever
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OKAC would be mentioned, Matt doesn't say Sega or Chat
or Williams or Caruso, just Dort Dort. Well, that's him,
Canadian national of the candy Bar revolt and a Sun
Devil and a thunder the other guys from the playoffs
that Matt loves to menasure. The other guy is that
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you've hammered into my mind. Do you want to take
a guess he's an Eastern Conference guy, Matt, Oh, god.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You know what I tell you?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Eastern So I got Boston, New York.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Give it to Bruce. Oh, Max Struce.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
All you ever do is stru the other guy that
Matt has hammered his struce.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, my dad was all over Struce yesterday watching.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He's like, look at this guy, two hundred and fifteen
pound guy from DePaul Blue Demons. She got a luxurious mullet,
suburban Chicago guy, a stag high charger.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Matt Atag.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, started his career as a as a flyer and
then became a bull struce down one to Halliburton's dad.
And then I'm adding a third name, Matt, which is
that weird lacrosse player with the mustag for the Golden
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State Warriors. Have you seen this.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Guy I have? Uh what's his name? Oh, God, damn it,
it's Uh It's Spencer, right, isn't that it?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is that who I'm thinking of? Pat Spencer? Or no?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, Uh, it is a guy named Pat Spencer. You're
absolutely right, Matt.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And he started out a real blockhead.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He played lacrosse for the Loyola Greyhounds in Maryland, and
then he became a Northwestern wild gatto. Oh. Now he's
a Golden State Warrior wild gotto. And he's got just
the craziest cop stash out there. Just three real weirdos
running around out there. During the NBA playoffs, Matt's guy
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Dort Dort, Max Struce. It's not Spence Daddy, It's just
not the stupid name. With those guys, they look ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
They do, they really do.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then the third guy, Pat Spencer, who has a
just a crazy cop stash. I'm scared the second that
he walks outside that arena. They're going to protest him
out there at Golden State. So there you go, Matt,
those are your guys. Enjoy the NBA Playoffs. Thanks Matt,
thanks for helping me be familiar with NBA personnel. It
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is time for the number of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Here's my number. Number of the day. Number of the
Day is zero. And Petrosen Money Show at times will
take incoming from those that feel we do a disservice
when we speak of the hobos, when we bring up hobos,
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when we critique the state of our city as it
relates to hobos.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They don't understand the poetic license we like to use
when we use the word hobo.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now and look whatever I get it. From time to time,
maybe we can be a little, yeah, a little kurt
towards the little insensitive. But then I run into something
like I ran into today and It reminds me of
the frustrations of that particular percentage of the population in
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our Greater Los Angeles and extended Ventura County in this
case and beyond area, because it's a warm climate, and
because there are many and the challenges that it may present.
Driving home, all I want to do is hop off
and take a leak. Hey, and if I wasn't with
my family, I'm a guy that'll pull over on the
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shoulder and take a whiz on the wall. I don't care,
but I got the whole crew.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You're a rabble Matt, you know. I mean, the people
can't step to you, but the.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
People step to me today. P I don't know if
you've noticed this. People don't let you use the They
don't let you take a whiz anymore anywhere, Like all
the all the bathrooms are on lockdown because of the.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hobos, because of the hoboes and the math.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, like the the math and the hoboes. You can't
go to a gas station anymore and say, hey, restroom,
I'll buy a coffee from here, Snickers bar or something.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, I'll give you a little something even when you're
trying to do that. Locked up yeah, they're like no,
no restrooms. Restrooms are locked. So this is the this
is the world. Yeah, yeah, you know, we just we
had to lock them up because you know the the
they'll they'll spend the night in there, they'll lock it,
they ruin everything, they'll flout the place. Uh, it's just
all the like three different gas stations right off the freeway,
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like this is what. This is what it's come to.
That guy on the road trip trying to take and
you know there's no more rest stops. Those have all
closed down because of the wide stands in the freaking dumpers.
Well no, math doesn't have that anymore. You can not
blaming the hobos for that, but I'm saying it it's
myriad issues that have led to our world, our current.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, it's certainly not a traveler friendly world out there
on the roads like it used to be.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Not like it used to be when they welted me
with open arms.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Pe vacuum that we tried to sell on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea.
I still believe it to be a great idea, and
I think you put the PMS brand on it, especially
with our irreverence for the whole.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
To miss a thing on the Petersen Money Show. You
don't even want to go to a restaurant that's locked
down to have a gay affair. Stay in your car and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Pete exactly right. You turn the vacuum up to ten,
and now you're having your gay affair with yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Perfect. Fine. I don't think they're qualified, but hey, whatever,
it's time of the song of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This is the song of the day.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Today's song of the day is called Late Out Afternoon
from a group called Sports and Music because the Petros
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Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Running six o'clock hour doesn't normally see the likes of
James Worthy. Well sometimes it does. Actually quite often it does.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Regularly, as a matter of fact, almost always. You'll get
it again.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You really stepped in it there, Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I really stepped it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We'll be just like you did with that great Airbnb.
We'll be. We'll be on with James Worthy. You're on
the Lakers post mortem. I've been discussing with him yet.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
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Speaker 1 (12:34):
Joining us right now, Matt. One of our all time
favorites is mere presence reminds us of playoffs, past dominant
Laker teams, dynasties, teams that defined the NBA and still do.
He's a Hall of Famer, his jersey hangs in the rafters.
(12:56):
Emmy Award winner on Spectrum Sports Net LA. They don't
ever want to get too comfortable and act like we're
overly worthy of having James. That's funny on the petros
and Money Show here, that's my style, James we haven't
talked to you since the Lakers were eliminated, and we
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need a little bit of a post mortem.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
How are you, hey?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Man?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
All good? You know, unfortunate that we got no teams.
Well it's deception, you know. Let's go Dodgers, No Lakers,
no Clippers. No Lakers, no Clippers. I really thought the
Kings was going to be there, but unfortunately they're not
there either, So Sparks, Dodgers, let's go.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, James, you just kind of looking back at what
went wrong, and you mentioned it was a bad week
for our teams. Here the Kings after a two to
zer lead, gone the Clippers, an opportunity to go up
three to one, gone the Lakers, that collapse that would
have even the series at two to two. Instead they
fall behind three to one. So just to kind of
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focus on that, did you get the sense because I
don't know, I don't want to say they came out
like not enthusiastic to play the game, but man, it
just certainly looked like a team that after they fell
back three to one in that game five, just did
not have the same spring in their step that we
had seen earlier in this series.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, even in game one and they lost. And and
to me, just looking at the energy and the spirit
and the mood and the fight and the physicality that
it takes each game in the playoffs, even the win
in game two was kind of okay, we got it,
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we got the win, and as you know, but then
you know, you could see that to me, it looked like,
you know, the team just didn't believe that they could
overcome you know, when they would tied one one. That
was not a bad place to be, but not being
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able to win in Minnesota. And I also think simultaneously
feeling the force of Minnesota, feeling the physicality, seeing the height,
you know, disadvantages and how you know, how long they
were as far as their wingspan and things that nature.
Just how aggressive they were. It just kind of took
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the fight out. You know, being being seated sticks didn't
really matter, you know what I mean for Minnesota, the
West was just so and we're seeing that unfold right now.
I mean the Warriors. We're seeing teams, uh, you know,
win who who are not seated as high as as
their opponents, so and not having a center man, not
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having a shot blocker. When a team sees this, there's
no threat at the rim. They it's and it's and
you know, as tall and as strong as they were
getting to the cup, it just it was just like
lights out. And then the adjustments, you know, not making substitutions,
not making the adjustment would go bear. It just it
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was just it was just didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, And and I guess there's a few things you
can point to. I mean, Austin Reeves, who had been
playing exceptional basketball, just found himself in a slump for
the five games. But how much was the lack of
a big the unwillingness to at least maybe try to
weather a few rough minutes from Jackson Hayes And and
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what do you think that means for this offseason, you know,
and trying to get this roster to a place where
you don't have to experience that when you got two
guys and Lebron and Luca, who alone are going to
make a hundred million dollars next year.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see how they can,
you know, get a quality big to come here that
and fulfill what they need. You know, one of the
things that I thought about JJ all season long is
that he was a great communicator, to his players. You know,
they respected what he said, and when they played, they played,
and when they didn't play, they were ready to play
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the rotations all year long. I think it's what I
would have stuck to. Like if I'm sitting on the
bench watching Gobart, you know, just mutilize us, you know,
kill us on the boards and you know scoring. You know,
if I'm Jackson Hayes, i went out there. If I'm Gabe,
you know this. You know who played in Miami has experienced.
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You know, I'd just like to get out there and
see if I can help my team. And then you know,
just overworking the guys that were out there who already oversized.
And I think that was a problem with Austin Reeves.
You know, they they made Austin work hard on defense.
He got switched on Nas, he got switched on Andrew McDaniel.
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Sometimes he got switched edwards and they just kept searching
for those mismatches. So he had to work really hard
on defense. Not sure that was because his shots just
were you know, that's unnormal for him, abnormal to his
shots not to go in and then not having a center.
It weren't doing regular season, but getting stuck with a
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big team for seven games, just once Hare made Game
two or three and Minnesota made theirs and and the
Lakers didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know, always helping out our team and never coming
off the bench. The great James Worthy on the Petros
and Money Show. Should Laker fans be disappointed? James? With
the way everything end up? I mean it ended up.
It's such a weird ending and abrupt to the season.
How should it be judged with that major trade right
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in the middle and everything.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, I think, you know, the trade getting rescinded didn't
help us. Mark Williams would have been a good you know,
a good addition didn't happen. The Lakers played good small
ball early on. They beat Denver. A lot of teams
looking at how the Lakers were played Denver and beat
yolkis but that doesn't last in the game series. So
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I think, you know, rising to third, I think fans
are disappointed because just rising to third, you know, in
in the West, does a big accomplishment. Getting Luca I
think people expected to go to at least to find him.
So it's disappointed, I think. But for me, seeing how
the West unfold and knowing what it's like to get
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in a seven game series. And then when we drew Minnesota,
I was like, man, that's they're they're big, that they're strong. Uh,
you know, it was you know, he talks a lot
of trash, and you know he's they've embodied his you know,
his soul. I think it'd be tough, and they were
and they moved on to the next round and we didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, and you know, teams you look at even the Rockets,
who who got eliminated in the first round, took it
to seven games. I mean they're young. Oklahoma City is young,
you know, in Minnesota, you know is young. Rudy Gobert
is really the only older player on that team. Otherwise
it's an incredibly young nucleus. Just look, Luca's only twenty
five twenty six years old, so it's not like he's old.
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But just kind of your thoughts on on how you
need to approach this Western Conference, because, like you said,
they were the three seed, but Minnesota won forty nine games,
I mean, one less game than the Lakers in the
sixth slot. So considering how stacked the West is, like
what do you think about the future and how pressing
it is that they get this thing right this offseason
before Lebron you know, calls it a career.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, I was, you know, you know, you know, I
think a big is so important in this game. If
not a big, a shot blocker or someone who plays
big it can handle other bigs, It's still important. Are
it's coming back. You know, there was a time when
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you know, ten years ago, so it was really guard oriented.
Michael Jordan. You know a lot of guys who who
fit that category. Now that you know, it's a different
kind of big the winby the Yelkic, but you still
need some size in a seven game series, even if
you can get somebody like an Adams or somebody who's
strong and can can handle the you know, the physicality,
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and I think the Lakers need to look to that.
You know. I think Cleaver who came you know with Dallas,
he brings a little bit of that. They put him
in I think for a few minutes. He had the
foot injury all year long. But they need somebody who
not necessarily a score, but a rent protective and somebody
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who could muck it up. And they didn't have that.
They didn't they didn't have that at the center position.
I don't really think they had that. At the power
forward percenter really was doing the best he could. I
thought he did a really good job. Uh, at the
at the three position. You know, Lebron's are big, but
when you have guys like nas and you know and
and Andre and and you know Edwards, that's a that's
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a lot of length and strength to deal with. So
ladies gotta look at that. I mean they did. Okay,
Luca's gonna get in better shape, I believe, and they're
gonna they're gonna have better synergy when they have practice time.
He Lebron together. Uh, you know, I think Reeves is
still a keeper and Ruik and but they're gonna they're
gonna need to add one more or maybe two. Uh,
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a physical, physical big and then another physical backup coming
off off the bench.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
In my opinion, James, you did a lot of battle
with a lot of legends, Dennis Rodman, Robert Parrish, the Chief,
you know, Lamber McHale. Where do you come out on
Draymond Green if he had played back then would he
be just another guy who was pretty fiery? Does he
stand out because of the way baseball basketball is now?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
What what do you what do you think well, I mean,
I don't know. I think sometimes I have to answer
that by thinking of like the players that he would
have to go up against. Okay uh, Charles Oakley, okay uh,
Anthony Mason, Dennis Rodman, Bill Amber. I can think of
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you know, some other tough guys Otis Thorpe, you know,
guys who were big, strong, and probably wouldn't be as verbal.
I don't think people would tolerate the trash that he's talking.
They we just didn't do that in the eighties. He
would really be a target if he had that kind
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of you know, that kind of you know attitude. But
I think Jay Mane would be a really good, small,
powerful forward, you know, a really good ball handler and
probably could you know, guard some of the some of
the two's back then. I think he'd be efficient. I
loved him at Michigan State when he was at Iszuo,
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and I know he'd be a really good NBA player.
He's tough, but I don't think I think he'd be
less verbal. But I do think great mind could play,
you know, in the eighties. He's physical enough and skilled enough.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
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Speaker 4 (24:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I know you've told the story before. We've been talking
to you for so long, but it is the postseason
and we do get it. You know, shot our way
every now and then because it is one of the
most famous physical altercations on the court in NBA history,
and everybody always asks when McHale closed lines Rambus and
were these the first guy to get into the middle
of it. The first thing you do is you shove
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Rambus into like the third row. What was your thought
in that moment and what was going on there?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, I'm thinking about the Kermit Washington situation. Yeah, you know,
you're in a crowd. I had no All I saw
out of the corner of my eye was a body,
kind of a body coming my way and I had
those sweaty goggles on that were all sweat. I really
couldn't see, and I didn't know whether it was a
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Celtic or All I know is I was pushing somebody
away and ended up being Kurt. And other than that passed,
I threw away and gained two in nineteen eighty four.
That was my biggest regret was stopping Kirk Rambis from
kicking Kevin McHale's ass. And I apologize to Kurt. There's
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nothing I can do about it. It was a big,
big mistake on my part. But I was young, and
I was reacting and I just want to make sure
nobody was coming up to punch me in the face,
and I just reacted. And but anyway, I'm not going
to do about that now.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, great, an honorable explanation. Absolutely, you can only do
what we could.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do, the great James Worthy, and he would have kicked
his ass.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah that's right, Well, yes he would have. Man, damn
it a Greek versus himbing Minnesota. Come on, thank you
so much, James, and have a wonderful week, and we
can't wait to talk to you next week. But a
lot of fun NBA games to watch.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You got it, Brothers.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That asked again, James Worthy, courtesy of your Southern California
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Speaker 1 (26:47):
And we'll be right back with your dead and Alive
Guy Birthday of the Day. Fox Sports Radio isn't that
for listening, and we are sorry. The good news is
the Dodgers won their series against Florida. Would have been
pretty embarrassing if McCullough, their first base coach from last year,
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the Skipper of the Fish, took a series from them.
I don't care what kind of road trip you're in
the middle of, Matt. I mean, jee's less noss. But
the Dodgers end up winning, and Matt and I will
be back on tomorrow with a flex alert at two o'clock.
And don't forget you can always podcast our show whatever
you missed on the iHeartRadio app for your smartphone. We're
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always there for you, smiling and saying hello, Matt. You
have they Birthday of the Day, and a big thank
you to James Worthy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I do dead Guy birthday to day. It's a Wednesday.
This is not a dead Guy I would do on
a Friday. But today let's go say dead Guy a Wednesday,
Dead Guy.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We go.
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It's time for British.
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who is twenty four today. Happy birthday to her, and
happy birthday to our dear friend Isabel, who shares a
birthday with Peyton and Thomas Noakes as well. Thomas would
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have been one hundred and seventy five today. He was
a businessman, He was a showman, and he was an
exploiter of those less fortunate, including being the last man
to exhibit Joseph Merrick the elephant Man.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He is our guy, and we are your elephant man
show up record and it's not close. Noakes was born
in Sussex, eldest of seventeen children to Thomas Noakes, a
butcher and a farmer, and young Tommy left school to
work with dad when he was twelve. He didn't like
butchering and farman, so at fourteen, decides to take a hike, traveling,
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seeking a career as a performer. It was a different time,
you know, at fourteen you could do that. I mean
he was working at twelve. Did not pan out, so
he moved to London, where he worked as a butcher's
assistant again at sixteen, was looking for some quick cash,
a quick quid, if you will, So he moved to Berkshire,
where he took up professional gambling, lost it all and
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again resumed his You know that is a one way right.
He got back to butchering and across the street a
pennygaf opened, and he would go view the novelties now
and again. And there he saw the Electric Lady, a
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lady born full of electricity that when she shook your
hands you'd get the shock. He was impressed with the exhibition.
He figured out the ruse, realized the money making potential,
so he left his job and staged his own Electric
Lady in Hammersmith. Changed his birth name to Tom Norman
because he didn't want to shame his family due to
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his distasteful connections to circuses and fairgrounds. Well that's fair right.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I need no pun intended. I believe out there they
call it a fate.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He was good at it. P His traveling exhibitions featured
Elijah Jenkins, the Skeleton Woman, a balloon headed baby, and
a woman who bit the head off of live rats, fleas,
fat ladies, giants, dwarves. He did it all and it
took off. He opened more and more shows, London, Nottingham,
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all across the country, thirteen shops in London alone, and
he ran into a shortage of curiosities traveled the country
looking for new acts. Eighteen eighty four, he finds Joseph Merrick,
a young man from Leicester extreme deformities. They struck up
a friendship. Merrek was not able to work because of
his physical appearance, and so Norman actually gave him a
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job behind the scenes in his Leicster workhouse, and ultimately
Merrek said, let's do it. So they partnered and they
presented Merek as the Elephant Man, half a man, half
an element elephant. People were shocked, understandably.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Who knew that it would be such a hit.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Right, he said? It was such a hit because it
was directly across the road from the London Hospital and
all the medical students and the doctors would come as
visitors and share with their friends who were also doctors,
insurgeons and all of that. Who would that come to
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look And it was doctor Trevis who arranged to have
him brought into the hospital to be examined, and he
was the a hole. Marrek told Norman after two or
three visits, please don't let me go anymore. They make
me feel like an animal in a cattle market. So
Norman said no more. Uh, but I don't know like
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things changed. The taste for the freak shows dissipated, and
Norman only had him for a few weeks on display
when he was shut down by the police. So they
parted ways and that doctor took him to the London Hospital,
which is where he would stay until his death. Married
ten kids, sold a zoo, lived until he was seventy.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
We'll keep it on that side of the world with
an Irish guy. Christopher Andrew Moore aka Christie Moore eighty
years old. He is the Irish folks singer songwriter of
record we have any Christie Moore there. He was born
in the County killed Are. His mother was a political lady.
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Moore worked at a bank and during a bank strike
in nineteen sixty six he got into folks singing and
traditional Irish music. When the strike was over he said
I'm not going back. His first band, Plank Steve, was
a Irish folk band, then he was a solo Plank
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Steve broke up in seventy five. Also he was in
the early eighties Irish folk band Moving Hearts, which was
very innovative. They fused Irish folk, rock and jazz. Matt
Beauty beauteous. Christy was a bit of a drunk and
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had a heart attack in the eighties. He was heavily
involved in the Galway Bassed drinking scene, including with the
legendary fiddler Mickey Finn. He has become more prolific here
in the more recent two thousands. This last year March
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to his eightieth birthday, he has been on a three
month eighteen date tour in Ireland. Now early in his
career he once claimed to play sixty seven nights in
a row. His mother was a conservative. Christie, like many artist,
is an outspoken liberal. He has a song that about
a mysterious fire at a nightclub called the Stardust that
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was the name of the nightclub that killed almost fifty people.
Terrible thing that happened in Ireland. Oh and he attacked
the owners and the government. Pretty prolific Irish folks singer.
Here he is, Matt. I thought you'd find this interesting.
This is Christy Moore with Shane McGowan talking about the song.
A pair of Brown Eyes, which is a Pogue song,
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and then he's talking about Shane McGowan, and then they
sing a little bit and that'll be the end of
the show. After we'll hear him sing, we'll play the
song and roll out.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'll tell you what you were doing it you were
doing that. Yeah. But I've worked with Shane in this
kind of scenario maybe two or three times before, and
he's always delivered. And it was lovely yesterday because I
really admired the way he he he wanted to sing
(35:17):
a song a certain way, and I like the way
he hung out until we could play it the right way.
I thought that was good. You know, you kin, what's
your name? And how would your bloody?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's Christy freaking awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You know, he's not he's all bad that you're getting
a bar, you know, tell his large story. But he's
one of the big voices song and he's he's a
man of words and he's a man of music. And
I love him, you know, I really do. And he's
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very very he's very you know, and he's very funny.
And he said one thing yesterday, he said, I just
want to be a singer. He said, I don't want
to be an actor. I don't want to be a posche.
I don't want to be a writer. I just want
to be a singer. But of course he is an actor,
and he is a poor and he is a comedian,
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and he's a writer. He's all those things, so I like.
I love to sing room. I loved at him.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
He looked at me, and all I could do was
haje way and fill meina sn of my well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
With everybody's permission, we'll finish that way tonight. I enjoy
the song. Leave it up, Ronnie, it's a good one.
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segment when we hit the air land and neck with
his first win, and Kim with a hell of a
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couple things little, you know, a little sideways on it,
but hey whatever, and of course pe it likely will
carry over till tomorrow and pretty much for the rest
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Andre Ethier retired.
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the dawn. Thanks a lot, James, and you're number one fan.
John Papadekas sens his call of the Wild to you, Tarzan.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, thank you, John, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Wow, quite a shout.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I think if Dave had exhibited the call of the Wild.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He would have done it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Appreciate it. It's good laughter from our man, Jacob. We
appreciate that for CIRT. I had an unfortunate laugh the
other day. I can't remember what it was, but I
remember texting you saying, Wow, that was an unfortunate laugh
by me. Nothing worse. There's truly nothing worse when you're interviewing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Was it not somebody saying something heavy or.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was he just no, somebody was saying something and I
gave it like, oh wow, I had to text you
that said, oh that was unfortunate. But such just the
career we've chosen, well man.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, you know, the paths we've taken are not exactly
the most you know, but hey, what a what a
great time to be alive, What a great time to
be doing great sports talk right here on M five seventy.
LA Sports will be on tomorrow starting at two o'clock,
as the Dodgers will be of course in Arizona. Okay,
we have a lot to get to, Matt. James Worthy
(03:19):
is next. We have the dad and a live guy
burnt the other day, and like we've been dealing with,
not a lot of time in the city to see
you DoD to enjoy ourselves in the world of great
sports talk. So let's get it started with the word
of the day. His words. The word of the day, Matt.
Today's word is three, as there are three guys that
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just keep popping into my head these playoffs, and it's
only because of you, you know. If the Clippers were
like randomly playing one of these teams, you would just
start saying the guy's name, and I'd be like, yeah, what,
And now it's just watching the NBA playoffs and it's
just nailed into my head. Number one lugians Dort.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, Dorty Dort.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Ok. See like you also say Matt mon trel is
from and he played at Arizona State, undrafted but valuable
for OKC and all these home teams are down. But
that's your guy, Dort. And every year, all year, whenever
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OKAC would be mentioned, Matt doesn't say Sega or Chat
or Williams or Caruso, just Dort Dort. Well, that's him,
Canadian national of the candy Bar revolt and a Sun
Devil and a thunder the other guys from the playoffs
that Matt loves to menasure. The other guy is that
(04:53):
you've hammered into my mind. Do you want to take
a guess he's an Eastern Conference guy, Matt, Oh, god.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You know what I tell you?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Eastern So I got Boston, New York.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Give it to Bruce. Oh, Max Struce.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
All you ever do is stru the other guy that
Matt has hammered his struce.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, my dad was all over Struce yesterday watching.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He's like, look at this guy, two hundred and fifteen
pound guy from DePaul Blue Demons. She got a luxurious mullet,
suburban Chicago guy, a stag high charger.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Matt Atag.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, started his career as a as a flyer and
then became a bull struce down one to Halliburton's dad.
And then I'm adding a third name, Matt, which is
that weird lacrosse player with the mustag for the Golden
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State Warriors. Have you seen this.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Guy I have? Uh what's his name? Oh, God, damn it,
it's Uh It's Spencer, right, isn't that it?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is that who I'm thinking of? Pat Spencer? Or no?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, Uh, it is a guy named Pat Spencer. You're
absolutely right, Matt.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And he started out a real blockhead.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He played lacrosse for the Loyola Greyhounds in Maryland, and
then he became a Northwestern wild gatto. Oh. Now he's
a Golden State Warrior wild gotto. And he's got just
the craziest cop stash out there. Just three real weirdos
running around out there. During the NBA playoffs, Matt's guy
(06:48):
Dort Dort, Max Struce. It's not Spence Daddy, It's just
not the stupid name. With those guys, they look ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
They do, they really do.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then the third guy, Pat Spencer, who has a
just a crazy cop stash. I'm scared the second that
he walks outside that arena. They're going to protest him
out there at Golden State. So there you go, Matt,
those are your guys. Enjoy the NBA Playoffs. Thanks Matt,
thanks for helping me be familiar with NBA personnel. It
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is time for the number of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Here's my number. Number of the day. Number of the
Day is zero. And Petrosen Money Show at times will
take incoming from those that feel we do a disservice
when we speak of the hobos, when we bring up hobos,
(07:47):
when we critique the state of our city as it
relates to hobos.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They don't understand the poetic license we like to use
when we use the word hobo.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now and look whatever I get it. From time to time,
maybe we can be a little, yeah, a little kurt
towards the little insensitive. But then I run into something
like I ran into today and It reminds me of
the frustrations of that particular percentage of the population in
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our Greater Los Angeles and extended Ventura County in this
case and beyond area, because it's a warm climate, and
because there are many and the challenges that it may present.
Driving home, all I want to do is hop off
and take a leak. Hey, and if I wasn't with
my family, I'm a guy that'll pull over on the
(08:45):
shoulder and take a whiz on the wall. I don't care,
but I got the whole crew.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You're a rabble Matt, you know. I mean, the people
can't step to you, but the.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
People step to me today. P I don't know if
you've noticed this. People don't let you use the They
don't let you take a whiz anymore anywhere, Like all
the all the bathrooms are on lockdown because of the.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hobos, because of the hoboes and the math.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, like the the math and the hoboes. You can't
go to a gas station anymore and say, hey, restroom,
I'll buy a coffee from here, Snickers bar or something.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, I'll give you a little something even when you're
trying to do that. Locked up yeah, they're like no,
no restrooms. Restrooms are locked. So this is the this
is the world. Yeah, yeah, you know, we just we
had to lock them up because you know the the
they'll they'll spend the night in there, they'll lock it,
they ruin everything, they'll flout the place. Uh, it's just
all the like three different gas stations right off the freeway,
(09:41):
like this is what. This is what it's come to.
That guy on the road trip trying to take and
you know there's no more rest stops. Those have all
closed down because of the wide stands in the freaking dumpers.
Well no, math doesn't have that anymore. You can not
blaming the hobos for that, but I'm saying it it's
myriad issues that have led to our world, our current.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, it's certainly not a traveler friendly world out there
on the roads like it used to be.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Not like it used to be when they welted me
with open arms.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Pe vacuum that we tried to sell on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea.
I still believe it to be a great idea, and
I think you put the PMS brand on it, especially
with our irreverence for the whole.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
To miss a thing on the Petersen Money Show. You
don't even want to go to a restaurant that's locked
down to have a gay affair. Stay in your car and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Pete exactly right. You turn the vacuum up to ten,
and now you're having your gay affair with yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Perfect. Fine. I don't think they're qualified, but hey, whatever,
it's time of the song of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This is the song of the day.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Today's song of the day is called Late Out Afternoon
from a group called Sports and Music because the Petros
and Money Show has finally made it to your AM
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Sports Radio at seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Running six o'clock hour doesn't normally see the likes of
James Worthy. Well sometimes it does. Actually quite often it does.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Regularly, as a matter of fact, almost always. You'll get
it again.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You really stepped in it there, Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I really stepped it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We'll be just like you did with that great Airbnb.
We'll be. We'll be on with James Worthy. You're on
the Lakers post mortem. I've been discussing with him yet.
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Speaker 1 (12:34):
Joining us right now, Matt. One of our all time
favorites is mere presence reminds us of playoffs, past dominant
Laker teams, dynasties, teams that defined the NBA and still do.
He's a Hall of Famer, his jersey hangs in the rafters.
(12:56):
Emmy Award winner on Spectrum Sports Net LA. They don't
ever want to get too comfortable and act like we're
overly worthy of having James. That's funny on the petros
and Money Show here, that's my style, James we haven't
talked to you since the Lakers were eliminated, and we
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need a little bit of a post mortem.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
How are you, hey?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Man?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
All good? You know, unfortunate that we got no teams.
Well it's deception, you know. Let's go Dodgers, No Lakers,
no Clippers. No Lakers, no Clippers. I really thought the
Kings was going to be there, but unfortunately they're not
there either, So Sparks, Dodgers, let's go.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, James, you just kind of looking back at what
went wrong, and you mentioned it was a bad week
for our teams. Here the Kings after a two to
zer lead, gone the Clippers, an opportunity to go up
three to one, gone the Lakers, that collapse that would
have even the series at two to two. Instead they
fall behind three to one. So just to kind of
(14:08):
focus on that, did you get the sense because I
don't know, I don't want to say they came out
like not enthusiastic to play the game, but man, it
just certainly looked like a team that after they fell
back three to one in that game five, just did
not have the same spring in their step that we
had seen earlier in this series.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, even in game one and they lost. And and
to me, just looking at the energy and the spirit
and the mood and the fight and the physicality that
it takes each game in the playoffs, even the win
in game two was kind of okay, we got it,
(14:49):
we got the win, and as you know, but then
you know, you could see that to me, it looked like,
you know, the team just didn't believe that they could
overcome you know, when they would tied one one. That
was not a bad place to be, but not being
(15:10):
able to win in Minnesota. And I also think simultaneously
feeling the force of Minnesota, feeling the physicality, seeing the height,
you know, disadvantages and how you know, how long they
were as far as their wingspan and things that nature.
Just how aggressive they were. It just kind of took
(15:30):
the fight out. You know, being being seated sticks didn't
really matter, you know what I mean for Minnesota, the
West was just so and we're seeing that unfold right now.
I mean the Warriors. We're seeing teams, uh, you know,
win who who are not seated as high as as
their opponents, so and not having a center man, not
(15:53):
having a shot blocker. When a team sees this, there's
no threat at the rim. They it's and it's and
you know, as tall and as strong as they were
getting to the cup, it just it was just like
lights out. And then the adjustments, you know, not making substitutions,
not making the adjustment would go bear. It just it
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was just it was just didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, And and I guess there's a few things you
can point to. I mean, Austin Reeves, who had been
playing exceptional basketball, just found himself in a slump for
the five games. But how much was the lack of
a big the unwillingness to at least maybe try to
weather a few rough minutes from Jackson Hayes And and
(16:38):
what do you think that means for this offseason, you know,
and trying to get this roster to a place where
you don't have to experience that when you got two
guys and Lebron and Luca, who alone are going to
make a hundred million dollars next year.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see how they can,
you know, get a quality big to come here that
and fulfill what they need. You know, one of the
things that I thought about JJ all season long is
that he was a great communicator, to his players. You know,
they respected what he said, and when they played, they played,
and when they didn't play, they were ready to play
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the rotations all year long. I think it's what I
would have stuck to. Like if I'm sitting on the
bench watching Gobart, you know, just mutilize us, you know,
kill us on the boards and you know scoring. You know,
if I'm Jackson Hayes, i went out there. If I'm Gabe,
you know this. You know who played in Miami has experienced.
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You know, I'd just like to get out there and
see if I can help my team. And then you know,
just overworking the guys that were out there who already oversized.
And I think that was a problem with Austin Reeves.
You know, they they made Austin work hard on defense.
He got switched on Nas, he got switched on Andrew McDaniel.
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Sometimes he got switched edwards and they just kept searching
for those mismatches. So he had to work really hard
on defense. Not sure that was because his shots just
were you know, that's unnormal for him, abnormal to his
shots not to go in and then not having a center.
It weren't doing regular season, but getting stuck with a
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big team for seven games, just once Hare made Game
two or three and Minnesota made theirs and and the
Lakers didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know, always helping out our team and never coming
off the bench. The great James Worthy on the Petros
and Money Show. Should Laker fans be disappointed? James? With
the way everything end up? I mean it ended up.
It's such a weird ending and abrupt to the season.
How should it be judged with that major trade right
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in the middle and everything.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, I think, you know, the trade getting rescinded didn't
help us. Mark Williams would have been a good you know,
a good addition didn't happen. The Lakers played good small
ball early on. They beat Denver. A lot of teams
looking at how the Lakers were played Denver and beat
yolkis but that doesn't last in the game series. So
(19:15):
I think, you know, rising to third, I think fans
are disappointed because just rising to third, you know, in
in the West, does a big accomplishment. Getting Luca I
think people expected to go to at least to find him.
So it's disappointed, I think. But for me, seeing how
the West unfold and knowing what it's like to get
(19:37):
in a seven game series. And then when we drew Minnesota,
I was like, man, that's they're they're big, that they're strong. Uh,
you know, it was you know, he talks a lot
of trash, and you know he's they've embodied his you know,
his soul. I think it'd be tough, and they were
and they moved on to the next round and we didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, and you know, teams you look at even the Rockets,
who who got eliminated in the first round, took it
to seven games. I mean they're young. Oklahoma City is young,
you know, in Minnesota, you know is young. Rudy Gobert
is really the only older player on that team. Otherwise
it's an incredibly young nucleus. Just look, Luca's only twenty
five twenty six years old, so it's not like he's old.
(20:20):
But just kind of your thoughts on on how you
need to approach this Western Conference, because, like you said,
they were the three seed, but Minnesota won forty nine games,
I mean, one less game than the Lakers in the
sixth slot. So considering how stacked the West is, like
what do you think about the future and how pressing
it is that they get this thing right this offseason
before Lebron you know, calls it a career.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, I was, you know, you know, you know, I
think a big is so important in this game. If
not a big, a shot blocker or someone who plays
big it can handle other bigs, It's still important. Are
it's coming back. You know, there was a time when
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you know, ten years ago, so it was really guard oriented.
Michael Jordan. You know a lot of guys who who
fit that category. Now that you know, it's a different
kind of big the winby the Yelkic, but you still
need some size in a seven game series, even if
you can get somebody like an Adams or somebody who's
strong and can can handle the you know, the physicality,
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and I think the Lakers need to look to that.
You know. I think Cleaver who came you know with Dallas,
he brings a little bit of that. They put him
in I think for a few minutes. He had the
foot injury all year long. But they need somebody who
not necessarily a score, but a rent protective and somebody
(21:49):
who could muck it up. And they didn't have that.
They didn't they didn't have that at the center position.
I don't really think they had that. At the power
forward percenter really was doing the best he could. I
thought he did a really good job. Uh, at the
at the three position. You know, Lebron's are big, but
when you have guys like nas and you know and
and Andre and and you know Edwards, that's a that's
(22:11):
a lot of length and strength to deal with. So
ladies gotta look at that. I mean they did. Okay,
Luca's gonna get in better shape, I believe, and they're
gonna they're gonna have better synergy when they have practice time.
He Lebron together. Uh, you know, I think Reeves is
still a keeper and Ruik and but they're gonna they're
gonna need to add one more or maybe two. Uh,
(22:33):
a physical, physical big and then another physical backup coming
off off the bench.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
In my opinion, James, you did a lot of battle
with a lot of legends, Dennis Rodman, Robert Parrish, the Chief,
you know, Lamber McHale. Where do you come out on
Draymond Green if he had played back then would he
be just another guy who was pretty fiery? Does he
stand out because of the way baseball basketball is now?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
What what do you what do you think well, I mean,
I don't know. I think sometimes I have to answer
that by thinking of like the players that he would
have to go up against. Okay uh, Charles Oakley, okay uh,
Anthony Mason, Dennis Rodman, Bill Amber. I can think of
(23:31):
you know, some other tough guys Otis Thorpe, you know,
guys who were big, strong, and probably wouldn't be as verbal.
I don't think people would tolerate the trash that he's talking.
They we just didn't do that in the eighties. He
would really be a target if he had that kind
(23:52):
of you know, that kind of you know attitude. But
I think Jay Mane would be a really good, small,
powerful forward, you know, a really good ball handler and
probably could you know, guard some of the some of
the two's back then. I think he'd be efficient. I
loved him at Michigan State when he was at Iszuo,
(24:13):
and I know he'd be a really good NBA player.
He's tough, but I don't think I think he'd be
less verbal. But I do think great mind could play,
you know, in the eighties. He's physical enough and skilled enough.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
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Speaker 4 (24:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I know you've told the story before. We've been talking
to you for so long, but it is the postseason
and we do get it. You know, shot our way
every now and then because it is one of the
most famous physical altercations on the court in NBA history,
and everybody always asks when McHale closed lines Rambus and
were these the first guy to get into the middle
of it. The first thing you do is you shove
(25:09):
Rambus into like the third row. What was your thought
in that moment and what was going on there?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, I'm thinking about the Kermit Washington situation. Yeah, you know,
you're in a crowd. I had no All I saw
out of the corner of my eye was a body,
kind of a body coming my way and I had
those sweaty goggles on that were all sweat. I really
couldn't see, and I didn't know whether it was a
(25:36):
Celtic or All I know is I was pushing somebody
away and ended up being Kurt. And other than that passed,
I threw away and gained two in nineteen eighty four.
That was my biggest regret was stopping Kirk Rambis from
kicking Kevin McHale's ass. And I apologize to Kurt. There's
(25:58):
nothing I can do about it. It was a big,
big mistake on my part. But I was young, and
I was reacting and I just want to make sure
nobody was coming up to punch me in the face,
and I just reacted. And but anyway, I'm not going
to do about that now.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, great, an honorable explanation. Absolutely, you can only do
what we could.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do, the great James Worthy, and he would have kicked
his ass.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah that's right, Well, yes he would have. Man, damn
it a Greek versus himbing Minnesota. Come on, thank you
so much, James, and have a wonderful week, and we
can't wait to talk to you next week. But a
lot of fun NBA games to watch.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You got it, Brothers.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That asked again, James Worthy, courtesy of your Southern California
for Dealers, forward from America for America.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And we'll be right back with your dead and Alive
Guy Birthday of the Day. Fox Sports Radio isn't that
for listening, and we are sorry. The good news is
the Dodgers won their series against Florida. Would have been
pretty embarrassing if McCullough, their first base coach from last year,
(27:12):
the Skipper of the Fish, took a series from them.
I don't care what kind of road trip you're in
the middle of, Matt. I mean, jee's less noss. But
the Dodgers end up winning, and Matt and I will
be back on tomorrow with a flex alert at two o'clock.
And don't forget you can always podcast our show whatever
you missed on the iHeartRadio app for your smartphone. We're
(27:34):
always there for you, smiling and saying hello, Matt. You
have they Birthday of the Day, and a big thank
you to James Worthy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I do dead Guy birthday to day. It's a Wednesday.
This is not a dead Guy I would do on
a Friday. But today let's go say dead Guy a Wednesday,
Dead Guy.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We go.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
British News.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It's time for PMS, British News, United Kingdom A murderers.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's time for British.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
News, not a murderer, but not somebody that is all
that palatable. Thomas Noakes shares a birthday with my daughter Peyton,
who is twenty four today. Happy birthday to her, and
happy birthday to our dear friend Isabel, who shares a
birthday with Peyton and Thomas Noakes as well. Thomas would
(28:24):
have been one hundred and seventy five today. He was
a businessman, He was a showman, and he was an
exploiter of those less fortunate, including being the last man
to exhibit Joseph Merrick the elephant Man.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He is our guy, and we are your elephant man
show up record and it's not close. Noakes was born
in Sussex, eldest of seventeen children to Thomas Noakes, a
butcher and a farmer, and young Tommy left school to
work with dad when he was twelve. He didn't like
butchering and farman, so at fourteen, decides to take a hike, traveling,
(29:08):
seeking a career as a performer. It was a different time,
you know, at fourteen you could do that. I mean
he was working at twelve. Did not pan out, so
he moved to London, where he worked as a butcher's
assistant again at sixteen, was looking for some quick cash,
a quick quid, if you will, So he moved to Berkshire,
where he took up professional gambling, lost it all and
(29:30):
again resumed his You know that is a one way right.
He got back to butchering and across the street a
pennygaf opened, and he would go view the novelties now
and again. And there he saw the Electric Lady, a
(29:51):
lady born full of electricity that when she shook your
hands you'd get the shock. He was impressed with the exhibition.
He figured out the ruse, realized the money making potential,
so he left his job and staged his own Electric
Lady in Hammersmith. Changed his birth name to Tom Norman
because he didn't want to shame his family due to
(30:11):
his distasteful connections to circuses and fairgrounds. Well that's fair right.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I need no pun intended. I believe out there they
call it a fate.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He was good at it. P His traveling exhibitions featured
Elijah Jenkins, the Skeleton Woman, a balloon headed baby, and
a woman who bit the head off of live rats, fleas,
fat ladies, giants, dwarves. He did it all and it
took off. He opened more and more shows, London, Nottingham,
(30:42):
all across the country, thirteen shops in London alone, and
he ran into a shortage of curiosities traveled the country
looking for new acts. Eighteen eighty four, he finds Joseph Merrick,
a young man from Leicester extreme deformities. They struck up
a friendship. Merrek was not able to work because of
his physical appearance, and so Norman actually gave him a
(31:05):
job behind the scenes in his Leicster workhouse, and ultimately
Merrek said, let's do it. So they partnered and they
presented Merek as the Elephant Man, half a man, half
an element elephant. People were shocked, understandably.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Who knew that it would be such a hit.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Right, he said? It was such a hit because it
was directly across the road from the London Hospital and
all the medical students and the doctors would come as
visitors and share with their friends who were also doctors,
insurgeons and all of that. Who would that come to
(31:47):
look And it was doctor Trevis who arranged to have
him brought into the hospital to be examined, and he
was the a hole. Marrek told Norman after two or
three visits, please don't let me go anymore. They make
me feel like an animal in a cattle market. So
Norman said no more. Uh, but I don't know like
(32:08):
things changed. The taste for the freak shows dissipated, and
Norman only had him for a few weeks on display
when he was shut down by the police. So they
parted ways and that doctor took him to the London Hospital,
which is where he would stay until his death. Married
ten kids, sold a zoo, lived until he was seventy.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
We'll keep it on that side of the world with
an Irish guy. Christopher Andrew Moore aka Christie Moore eighty
years old. He is the Irish folks singer songwriter of
record we have any Christie Moore there. He was born
in the County killed Are. His mother was a political lady.
(32:54):
Moore worked at a bank and during a bank strike
in nineteen sixty six he got into folks singing and
traditional Irish music. When the strike was over he said
I'm not going back. His first band, Plank Steve, was
a Irish folk band, then he was a solo Plank
(33:18):
Steve broke up in seventy five. Also he was in
the early eighties Irish folk band Moving Hearts, which was
very innovative. They fused Irish folk, rock and jazz. Matt
Beauty beauteous. Christy was a bit of a drunk and
(33:39):
had a heart attack in the eighties. He was heavily
involved in the Galway Bassed drinking scene, including with the
legendary fiddler Mickey Finn. He has become more prolific here
in the more recent two thousands. This last year March
(34:01):
to his eightieth birthday, he has been on a three
month eighteen date tour in Ireland. Now early in his
career he once claimed to play sixty seven nights in
a row. His mother was a conservative. Christie, like many artist,
is an outspoken liberal. He has a song that about
a mysterious fire at a nightclub called the Stardust that
(34:24):
was the name of the nightclub that killed almost fifty people.
Terrible thing that happened in Ireland. Oh and he attacked
the owners and the government. Pretty prolific Irish folks singer.
Here he is, Matt. I thought you'd find this interesting.
This is Christy Moore with Shane McGowan talking about the song.
A pair of Brown Eyes, which is a Pogue song,
(34:47):
and then he's talking about Shane McGowan, and then they
sing a little bit and that'll be the end of
the show. After we'll hear him sing, we'll play the
song and roll out.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'll tell you what you were doing it you were
doing that. Yeah. But I've worked with Shane in this
kind of scenario maybe two or three times before, and
he's always delivered. And it was lovely yesterday because I
really admired the way he he he wanted to sing
(35:17):
a song a certain way, and I like the way
he hung out until we could play it the right way.
I thought that was good. You know, you kin, what's
your name? And how would your bloody?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's Christy freaking awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You know, he's not he's all bad that you're getting
a bar, you know, tell his large story. But he's
one of the big voices song and he's he's a
man of words and he's a man of music. And
I love him, you know, I really do. And he's
(35:56):
very very he's very you know, and he's very funny.
And he said one thing yesterday, he said, I just
want to be a singer. He said, I don't want
to be an actor. I don't want to be a posche.
I don't want to be a writer. I just want
to be a singer. But of course he is an actor,
and he is a poor and he is a comedian,
(36:18):
and he's a writer. He's all those things, so I like.
I love to sing room. I loved at him.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
He looked at me, and all I could do was
haje way and fill meina sn of my well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
With everybody's permission, we'll finish that way tonight. I enjoy
the song. Leave it up, Ronnie, it's a good one.
Where is We'll be back on tomorrow at two o'clock
on Amphire seventy LA Sports. Happy birthday to Peyton Smith
and Isabelle E Baras.
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