October 3, 2025 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh man, that album, That Taylor Swift album. I'm not
gonna lie to you, guys. I think it's the first
Taylor Swift album that I've listened to completely.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh really really, that's actually kind of shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I'm also not gonna ide you. I like every
single song.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's it's a for me, it's a five star. It's
like that. It's it's as good as a pop record's
ever gonna be greak.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What Taylor Swift does so well is making listening to
her album such an experience, and she does it differently
every time, Like she was on the Graham Norton Show
and she talked about even just the release of the album.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I'm always trying to surprise people with how I announced albums.
I've done a few album announcements on award shows, and so,
you know, you do something one time and people were like,
I know what she's gonna do next, She's gonna do
the same thing she did before. So it's like, what
is what are people not going to expect me to do,
is to go on a football podcast and announce an album.
It's very I love the kind of polarity of the
masculine feminine there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I feel like swifties right now, like you just exploding
because there's so much she does, do everything so differently,
and like she released the album and then it's like
you didn't just get the album, you literally got the
album track by track where Taylor Swift is introducing each song,
telling you her thought process that went into each song
(01:20):
and what the song is about. So it doesn't even
leave you guessing. It leaves you as you're listening to
each song, listening to the lyrics even closer. And in
the interview, she talked about like how excited she is
that this album is out and how different it is
from every other album she's released.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Before the album is out, and I have such uncomplicated
feelings of joy about it. I do not feel any twisty,
tortured way about it, which is not how I felt
about the last album because there was such a lag
time between. You know, when you make music and then
you put it out, there's oftentimes your life can make
drastic changes in those times. With this album, my life
(01:59):
isn't exactly the same spot.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And it's like you could just tell there's joy in
each song in its own way, you know what I mean?
There's all this like there's happiness, and it's something that
like Graham Norton, when she went on the interview with him,
she was he like realized, you know, it's like she's glowing.
There's like there's like heart bubbles all around her.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You're in love.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, it's kind of gross. No, it's sickeningly. It's not.
It's by the way, I love being sickeningly in love.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, so nice, wonderful, it's wonderful. I used to kind
of have this dark fear that if I ever were
truly happy and free being myself and and nurtured by
a relationship, like what happens if the writing just dries up?
What I writing is directly tied to my torment and pain.
And it turns out that's not the case at all.
And we just were catching lightning in a bottle with
(02:51):
this record.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I was talking to my sister. I asked my
sister to review it for me because she's she's a
she's a swifty and her daughter's swifty, and she's like,
I have too many emotions. Then she goes, honey has
a vibe life, a showgirl's catchy, a banger. As Travis
would say she was. It's all about love and future
and positivity, actually romantic. One of the songs is funny,
a little dig to her ex and the haters. Then
(03:13):
she goes and Fate of Aphelia is about Travis saving
her from death, like in Hamlet, So good. She says
she would have had Fate of Aphelia if she hadn't come,
if he hadn't come for her. Ophelia died of a
broken heart or suicide or whatever. Then she goes googling
to see I don't remember. I didn't read any Hamlet,
so I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know I didn't realize that listening to that song
t op what's the song Opelite is about him because
he makes his own sunshine and came for her with
a megaphone like a pro who watches flames, something like
that love song so good.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Also, his birthdays in October, and the birthstone for October
is opal It's like a little nod to him.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Ophelia is deeply in love with Prince Hamlet, who doesn't
quite feel the same way. Things go sideways after Hamlet
in advertly kills her father and Ophelia goes mad with
grief of eventually drowning in a book or in a brook.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, and that's what she's talked about, Like, you know,
the album cover is it's a nod to that artwork
that we talked about on the Ophelia, right, the Fate
of Ophelia. That's the artwork of her sort of drowning.
And she says that that comes back in the lyrics,
and it comes back in the music video for that too.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then she goes, I think canceled is about Mahomes's wife.
This is all my sisters and guests. People thought she
was annoying. Way before Taylor arrived on the scene. She
did something I'll look at up. I can't remember, something
with a kid or something, but Taylor kept taking pictures
and made everyone shut up. And I think the same
thing with the politics. The girl was good to Taylor.
Let me look stand by, she said. Then she goes
(04:41):
and she says, you know who your friends are? Gucci?
Think all that all the wife Blake Lively doesn't do Gucci,
And I think that she wouldn't give Blake Live the
attention anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, it's funny because a lot of people thought Ruined
the friendship was going to be about Blake Lively. But
it's totally not even not loose, like not even close
to that line. That's just like a story about like
the first cudities with an actual friend and kissing them.
It's funny that she brought up actually romantic because it's
really not about her ex at all. The when people
break down that song, it's pretty amazing it's actually about
(05:14):
Charlie XCX. So when she released Brat, there's a song
on the album called Sympathy is a Knife, which included
a line that fans thought meant that Charlie hoped Taylor
Swift and then Matty Heally would break up. And so
I'll play the song for you to listen to the
lyrics and then go, oh, this is about Charlie XCX.
It's not even about a dude. And Charlie XCX, I
(05:36):
believe is with one of Matty Heally's bandmates, like they're together.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They just got married.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I heard you call me boring for me when you
feeling brain I've had my ex and then you said
you glad he goes steady wone me a song say
and it makes you sick to see mu face. Some
people might be, but it's actually sweet. All the time
(06:07):
you've spent on me. It's honestly, Oh the effort you've
put him, it's actually, O man relly god head to you.
O man has ever loved me like you do?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
No man has ever loved me like you do. Like
you're putting so much effort into this one sided hate
for me. It's riddic.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's a really really good song. And now that you
explain that that Charlie x X thing, it makes me
like the song even more. And also, what's up with
Charlie xx chill out on Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, I think it's that whole like the Maddie Heally crew,
they all don't like her, like they all are haters.
She just married George Daniel, which is, yeah, the drummer
of the band Mattie Heely's on.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And actually I didn't hear that there, And that makes
me sad because I love Charlie XCX and I like Taylor,
so I don't want them beefing.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
They're awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I guess she was, like Charlie XX was posting making
fun of the bracelets, the friendship bracelets and all kinds
of other things, and tater.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Line is such a Charlie, I know, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Know the whole, the whole, that whole, Like I couldn't
even clip that down because like you have to hear
every word of it, and it's just like it's so
searing in the best way. Like you're she wins, I'm
living rent free in your head.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
This is amazing.
Oh man, that album, That Taylor Swift album. I'm not
gonna lie to you, guys. I think it's the first
Taylor Swift album that I've listened to completely.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh really really, that's actually kind of shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I'm also not gonna ide you. I like every
single song.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's it's a for me, it's a five star. It's
like that. It's it's as good as a pop record's
ever gonna be greak.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What Taylor Swift does so well is making listening to
her album such an experience, and she does it differently
every time, Like she was on the Graham Norton Show
and she talked about even just the release of the album.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I'm always trying to surprise people with how I announced albums.
I've done a few album announcements on award shows, and so,
you know, you do something one time and people were like,
I know what she's gonna do next, She's gonna do
the same thing she did before. So it's like, what
is what are people not going to expect me to do,
is to go on a football podcast and announce an album.
It's very I love the kind of polarity of the
masculine feminine there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I feel like swifties right now, like you just exploding
because there's so much she does, do everything so differently,
and like she released the album and then it's like
you didn't just get the album, you literally got the
album track by track where Taylor Swift is introducing each song,
telling you her thought process that went into each song
(01:20):
and what the song is about. So it doesn't even
leave you guessing. It leaves you as you're listening to
each song, listening to the lyrics even closer. And in
the interview, she talked about like how excited she is
that this album is out and how different it is
from every other album she's released.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Before the album is out, and I have such uncomplicated
feelings of joy about it. I do not feel any twisty,
tortured way about it, which is not how I felt
about the last album because there was such a lag
time between. You know, when you make music and then
you put it out, there's oftentimes your life can make
drastic changes in those times. With this album, my life
(01:59):
isn't exactly the same spot.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And it's like you could just tell there's joy in
each song in its own way, you know what I mean?
There's all this like there's happiness, and it's something that
like Graham Norton, when she went on the interview with him,
she was he like realized, you know, it's like she's glowing.
There's like there's like heart bubbles all around her.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You're in love.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, it's kind of gross. No, it's sickeningly. It's not.
It's by the way, I love being sickeningly in love.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, so nice, wonderful, it's wonderful. I used to kind
of have this dark fear that if I ever were
truly happy and free being myself and and nurtured by
a relationship, like what happens if the writing just dries up?
What I writing is directly tied to my torment and pain.
And it turns out that's not the case at all.
And we just were catching lightning in a bottle with
(02:51):
this record.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I was talking to my sister. I asked my
sister to review it for me because she's she's a
she's a swifty and her daughter's swifty, and she's like,
I have too many emotions. Then she goes, honey has
a vibe life, a showgirl's catchy, a banger. As Travis
would say she was. It's all about love and future
and positivity, actually romantic. One of the songs is funny,
a little dig to her ex and the haters. Then
(03:13):
she goes and Fate of Aphelia is about Travis saving
her from death, like in Hamlet, So good. She says
she would have had Fate of Aphelia if she hadn't come,
if he hadn't come for her. Ophelia died of a
broken heart or suicide or whatever. Then she goes googling
to see I don't remember. I didn't read any Hamlet,
so I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know I didn't realize that listening to that song
t op what's the song Opelite is about him because
he makes his own sunshine and came for her with
a megaphone like a pro who watches flames, something like
that love song so good.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Also, his birthdays in October, and the birthstone for October
is opal It's like a little nod to him.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Ophelia is deeply in love with Prince Hamlet, who doesn't
quite feel the same way. Things go sideways after Hamlet
in advertly kills her father and Ophelia goes mad with
grief of eventually drowning in a book or in a brook.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, and that's what she's talked about, Like, you know,
the album cover is it's a nod to that artwork
that we talked about on the Ophelia, right, the Fate
of Ophelia. That's the artwork of her sort of drowning.
And she says that that comes back in the lyrics,
and it comes back in the music video for that too.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then she goes, I think canceled is about Mahomes's wife.
This is all my sisters and guests. People thought she
was annoying. Way before Taylor arrived on the scene. She
did something I'll look at up. I can't remember, something
with a kid or something, but Taylor kept taking pictures
and made everyone shut up. And I think the same
thing with the politics. The girl was good to Taylor.
Let me look stand by, she said. Then she goes
(04:41):
and she says, you know who your friends are? Gucci?
Think all that all the wife Blake Lively doesn't do Gucci,
And I think that she wouldn't give Blake Live the
attention anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, it's funny because a lot of people thought Ruined
the friendship was going to be about Blake Lively. But
it's totally not even not loose, like not even close
to that line. That's just like a story about like
the first cudities with an actual friend and kissing them.
It's funny that she brought up actually romantic because it's
really not about her ex at all. The when people
break down that song, it's pretty amazing it's actually about
(05:14):
Charlie XCX. So when she released Brat, there's a song
on the album called Sympathy is a Knife, which included
a line that fans thought meant that Charlie hoped Taylor
Swift and then Matty Heally would break up. And so
I'll play the song for you to listen to the
lyrics and then go, oh, this is about Charlie XCX.
It's not even about a dude. And Charlie XCX, I
(05:36):
believe is with one of Matty Heally's bandmates, like they're together.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They just got married.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I heard you call me boring for me when you
feeling brain I've had my ex and then you said
you glad he goes steady wone me a song say
and it makes you sick to see mu face. Some
people might be, but it's actually sweet. All the time
(06:07):
you've spent on me. It's honestly, Oh the effort you've
put him, it's actually, O man relly god head to you.
O man has ever loved me like you do?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
No man has ever loved me like you do. Like
you're putting so much effort into this one sided hate
for me. It's riddic.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's a really really good song. And now that you
explain that that Charlie x X thing, it makes me
like the song even more. And also, what's up with
Charlie xx chill out on Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, I think it's that whole like the Maddie Heally crew,
they all don't like her, like they all are haters.
She just married George Daniel, which is, yeah, the drummer
of the band Mattie Heely's on.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And actually I didn't hear that there, And that makes
me sad because I love Charlie XCX and I like Taylor,
so I don't want them beefing.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
They're awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I guess she was, like Charlie XX was posting making
fun of the bracelets, the friendship bracelets and all kinds
of other things, and tater.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Line is such a Charlie, I know, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Know the whole, the whole, that whole, Like I couldn't
even clip that down because like you have to hear
every word of it, and it's just like it's so
searing in the best way. Like you're she wins, I'm
living rent free in your head.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
This is amazing.
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