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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And how long are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We'll aim for like between fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Perfect, No longer than not good, because I can't stand
to talk to you that long.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So me and my grandma, we call her Meme. We're
sitting here, we're about to record the podcast. We both
have our angry orchard.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hard apples ciders that we're slipping on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Cheers, cheers, all right, Mammy. I feel like you came
on the air a couple of weeks ago and everyone
loved like our little segment that we did where we
were going hit for hit. Yes, So I was like, Okay, well,
Mammy's gonna have to do the couple's podcast with me.
Kadin's gonna have to sit this round out, And because
I feel like everyone needs to get to know you
a little bit better, So tell our joun Drey and
(00:49):
Rich listeners a little bit about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You, Hello, John Jay and Rich listeners. I am Peyton's grandma.
I am the grandma to Dominique and Jalen. I am
the great grandma to King seven and Chosen, and they
just left. I am torn up this house, said the house.
(01:14):
I've got about two hours of clean up, but I
really love my family. I had Miranda, that is Peyton's mom,
when I was very young. I was eighteen years old,
and I worked hard, and we wound up having a
pretty good life. All in all, our poorest days were
(01:35):
really our best days because we enjoyed every single thing
that we had, no matter how small it would be.
If someone gave us a can of soup, it'd be
high five time. Literally. We lived a very quiet life,
but we all worked hard. Miranda is a hard worker.
(01:58):
All my grandkids are hard workers. My son in law
is a hard worker. That's showtime for those of you
that listened to the show and everything. It's been a
really wonderful life. So I've been married three times. I
get we're gonna have to get back into that later, Okay, perfect, Thanks.
(02:19):
You don't want to know why we all broke up.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, we can. We can get into that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, I got to say that. I do remember. There
was one story.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I think either you told it to me or Mom
told it to me, and I always think about it
all the time. How like when you guys like we're poor,
and after McDonalds would close, you guys would go to
the McDonald's and like ask for the food for the leftovers.
And I always thought that was so crazy because we
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as kids were always so lucky that we never had
to worry about that kind of stuff. Like we had
a really really good childhood. We got what we wanted.
We were able to hang out with our friends, we
went on trips.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We did all that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But I mean, of course we had our bratty moments,
but I don't think we turned into being spoiled brats,
at least I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I we'll have to have a second podcast about it,
about the spoiled brat part. But no, And the story
was really wonderful. I was actually pregnant with your mom,
and I worked up until the very moment that I
couldn't anymore. So I was like eight and a half
months pregnant, and I didn't have any money and I
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was hungry. So I walked two miles to the McDonald's
and it closed it like eleven thirty or twelve, I
don't really remember, so it was really late. I'm pregnant,
like really pregnant, almost nine months pregnant, and I went
to the McDonald's and I went in and I said
excuse me, Do you have any food that you're going
to throw away? Because I'm really hungry. And the manager
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came out and he said, I'm sorry, we're forbidden to
do that. That's against our policy. He said, I'll tell
you what. I will be throwing some food away and
the trash cans right over here. So if you want
to go out to the trash can in five minutes,
I can't give it to you. So I said, okay.
So I waited outside and then I walked in the
(04:16):
back and on top of the trash can. Sorry, it
still makes me choked up, he had food in the
bags and sodas and there it was just loaded with
burgers and everything. And I was just like so touched
by his kindness. And then he wrote on one of
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the bags, there'll be something here for you in the
trash every night. And so from then on I'd take
that walk and I would have food. And really it
was the kindness of that stranger. I don't know whatever
happened to him. We moved away shortly, and I never
got to tell him how much that meant to me.
(05:00):
That little simple act of kindness really set things for
my whole life. I've tried to give back to people
ever since then. I mean I was raised that way,
but literally that person kept us kept me from being
hungry for the last month that I carried your mom.
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So that was that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That was wonderful and that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I mean, I know it was like you and
my mom for the majority of you guys's life. But
you're also one of ten, which is insane. You don't
find very many families nowadays with ten kids.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, but that was kind of normal. I mean, yeah,
we had like there were ten in ours, but most
people had someplace between like six and eight, you know.
And then one of the families in our neighborhood had seventeen.
And that was the Hickeys.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh. I remember you telling me about the Hickeyes, because
you told me about the Hickeys and you were like,
each one of us kids had a Hickey, And I
was like, you guys had your children, what do you
mean you have hickeys, but their last hickeys in our
hickeys in our class, everybody had the Hickey in their
class and the parents their names were ROBERTA.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I think his name was Robert, but all the
kids so as our h every kid was named with
an R. Anyway. There was ray Len renee Ronda Rock.
I don't remember, Randy, I don't remember, but if you
can think of a name with an R, there was
a Hickey attached to it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That is too funny.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay. I feel like the burning question that I've been
getting that the show has been getting is like, what's
the dynamic like now having twenty seven year old Peyton
moving back into the house with her fiance Kaden, Like
we lived here, Well, Kadeen came home for the summer
for about a month when I came here. When we
first started dating, you let him stay here, and then
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after that I kind of got my own he moved
out here, I got my own playes, that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Kind of stuff. But how do you feel now that
we're back in the house.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, when Kadeen first came in, there was a no
fornication rule that right there still is. Do you know
what fornications?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No idea? What fortication means?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That is sex? Having sex?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, so there's a fortification.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
No fornication anyway, I have always and it comes back.
I don't mean to swing back to the man at McDonald's,
but it and your family, and that's a little different.
But I have always opened the door for anyone that
needed a place Randon I have had. If I had
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to guess, it's probably thirty people that have lived with
us at different times. Now fast forward a year back,
and I love it. I'm really happy. Jalen's been back,
Dominique's been back, your mom and dad moved in here.
I mean, we're all wh happy family. Anybody that needs
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a place to stay has always been welcome. But the
dynamic is is that I know that you guys are
paying rent, and your rent was being raised again. You're
trying to get money together for a wedding, and so
I just you said to me, Hey, what do you
think about that? And I was actually delighted. I'm really
(08:25):
enjoying having you guys here because Kadeem's quiet, and you know,
the past time that he was here, I didn't know
him very well. So I'm getting to know him really
well and I've developed a great relationship with him, and
I really love him, and that I loved him before,
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but on a more.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Level, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Mean you've really gotten to get to know him. I mean,
you guys have sit down. There's been times where he's
come to you asking for advice on whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And I've asked him for, you know, his input on
certain things. But yeah, it's pretty kickback. It's pretty nice
and I appreciate that. So this has actually been a
gift for me to have you guys back, because I
enjoy having you around. I enjoy, like I said, I
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enjoy getting to know Kadem better and I really really
love him. So that is what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, we appreciate you being here. I remember Kadeen he
was like telling me. He was like, so, I asked
your grandma how long she thinks how long she's expecting
us to be here?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That was so funny, he said, mamme, or could I
ask you a question? And said, sure, what's the question?
When do we have to go?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
When do we have to leave?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
When do you expect us to leave here? And I said, darling,
you can stay as long as you want, but I figure,
you know, I hope that you'll stay through you know,
the time up until the time that you get married,
you know, and if you stay beyond that, that's okay,
but not too long, okay, But you're more than welcome
(10:12):
to be here. I as you know, I have very
few rules, and you know I might be a pain
in the ass. Well, I know I am a pain
in the ass. I like things. I'm neat, Yeah, you know,
I like things.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'm necessarily the neatest person in the bunch.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But I try.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I feel like I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'll let like our room go, and then I'm like, Okay,
I gotta get this together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then we're back for like maybe a.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Day and a half and then I have to go
somewhere and then close her everywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But we're enjoying it though.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's been fun and it's been nice, and we're so
thankful that we're able to be able to like save
money on rent and then also still.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Be here because like the kids are over here all.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The time, so it's always fun to be able to
see my nephews and all that kind of stuff. Like
over Halloween, I mean, me and King whipped together his
costume in ten fricking minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That was so that was so wonderful because you know,
I bought I bought costumes for the two little ones,
and I asked Miranda, what about King, and she said, no,
he's going to be some anime character or something, so
I said, okay, no problem. And then he comes over
and says he's not trick or treating because he doesn't
have a costume and within fire, and he looked so
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he was so upsessed. He looked really crapped out. But
he's eleven and he doesn't show his feelings very well.
And then when you said come on with me, we're
going to come up with something he like. It was
so nice to see him light up.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
She was loving it. We had fun putting it together.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, King is such an incredible kid. And I
have to just mention this, even though this is, you know,
not really about the podcast, but he had asked me,
I love the Turner Channel the classic movies. I mean
I love those movies and almost all of them are
in black and white. And he used to stay here
for the first, second and third grade during the school
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time and on the weekends he'd go home because our
school system was better and they were living in Castagram,
so he was here summer vacations or the breaks or
whatever it is on this year round stuff. Don't like it,
don't agree with it, go back to three months this
summer in freedom.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I loved being
on the year round.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because I feel like I got bored during summer, Like
we'd just be sitting around looking it's too hot to
go outside and play. Really, I would get bored. I
genuinely enjoyed our year round school system.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's horrible. But let me just tell you what King
asked me. So King said to me one day, he said, man,
could I ask you a question? Yes, she said, what
was it like when the world was black and white?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I am dead.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm like, oh my, honey, I just watched black and
white movies. The world is color? She said. Oh, I
thought because of back then, all those old movies. I
just thought, I mean, I thought they were film in color.
It was so wonderful. That's how his mind works. He's
so smart. But anyway, he's he's really a good kid.
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But you know, it was really nice. One part that
I neglected to mention in our Little the Little Bio
was that when my divorced husband number three, I was
out looking for a house and we found a house
in Agritopia, which is an area in Gilbert that has
a basement. It was like fifty seven hundred square feet
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it was a full out house. In the basement. It
had a movie room, it had three bedrooms, it had
an office, it had this huge den, it had a kitchen.
I mean, it was unbelievable. And then the street level
was mine and it was my master bedroom in the
kitchen and the dining room and all of that stuff.
And then upstairs there was three bedrooms or four bedrooms,
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I don't remember, a loft whatever. And so everybody was
it was like, all of a sudden, I wind up.
Your mom's a real estate agent, she's showing me houses,
and we wind up there. And then all of a sudden,
it wasn't just me moving out of my house from
my soon to be ex husband, all of you guys.
(14:17):
The plot, the plan was hatched that we would all
live together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I don't think a lot of people know that, Like
when we talk about, you know, Kadeem and I moving
back into the house, I don't think people know that
we lived together from the time I was in the
I think I was in the fifth grade.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, twenty ten is when.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So, yeah, I was like in the fifth sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Up until my sophomore year of high school, we lived
in the same exact house. So I'm glad that you
brought that back up because we were going to definitely
get into your divorce three times, because I, for one,
wanted to ask.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You two questions.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
One out of all of your marriages, because you married
my grandpa, my dad's mom, right, my grandpa Quirky, and
then you married Jean Vinson.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We've talked about Jean Vincent on the air before. I
don't know if I've ever told you that.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't remember how he got brought up.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Oh, I remember how he got brought up. I had
told the story about how you went to.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
France and you met Jean Vassan and you guys, you
came home and you told my mom that she had
a present coming for her and it wasn't that, Like
who does that to a fifteen year old girl? And
then and then to top it off, he made her
rabbit for So I told that story on the air,
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and I remember John was cracking up because I kept
saying Jean Vnsan.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's like, is his name Jean or is it always
Jean Vinson?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I was like.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Always?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then you know you married and then divorced grants.
I guess, so my two questions, is me going into
this new bridal era? What is one thing of advice
that you would give me? Give me two things of
advice that you would give me moving into this next era.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
This is very easy. Don't ask someone that's spit merror
three times the worst three times advice? Okay, all right, yeah,
but I actually on the outside, on the on the
flip side, it's just communicate, Just communicate, don't let ship build,
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you know, that's really the that's really the thing. Depending
on your personality and yours isn't like mine, you know,
I will, you know, I'll keep my mouth shut. Not
around here. You don't see that part of me. Well, husbands,
you know, I I wait, and I just don't like it.
I don't like altercations. So I just, you know, go
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ten years without having an argument and then I wind
up divorce the first one. So that's not true. That's
a fabrication. So that's the only thing that I could say.
And then the only other thing that I would say
is remember why when things are rough, remember why you
married this person. Remember the joy that you had on
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the wedding day. Hopefully you will have a joyful wedding day,
but just you know, remembered why you married him in
the first place, because you tend people can tend to
lose sight of the things that are the best in
every relationship, you know, you get irritated, irritations or irritations.
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Love is a lot deeper than irritations, definitely, So there
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I feel like with me and Kadeem like I genuinely
pride myself in the fact that, like we were friends first.
I think I I have a different idea. I thought
Kadem and I were better friends, and apparently he says
we were. He doesn't think we were as good as
friends as we were, And I was like, I thought
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we were besties, Like what do you mean, Like.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I can't believe you didn't that way, Like I felt
so betrayed.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I do like whenever, like I want to, like,
if he's irritating me and I just like, oh, like
you're being annoying, I'll just be like, wait, like you're
my friend.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I have to tell you have always though you have
such deep friendships, I am not surprised at all that
you made that connection with him and he was your
best friend, that he was your close friend. Because you've
got like thirty of them. I do. I mean, you
have a lot of friends. And the only other person
that I've ever seen like that is your cousin Sean.
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And your cousin Sean has friends with people that he
went to preschool with. Yeah, every stage of his life
he has at least one, and he has worked very hard,
like you do, to stay in touch with people. You'll do.
You know, you treasure relationships, you value me do?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I really do?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And I really don't like when people are upset with
me that like will keep me up that night.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Like I think that a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I put out like this tough, hard exterior a lot
of times and really like I'm just a softy.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
And I cry and everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I think, over the course of my probably since
Me Kadima have been together, I've like really mourned like
two of my friendships that I really had, and I
still think about them all the time, and I get
upset because I'm like dang. I told Kadem the other day,
I was like with one of my specific friends, I
was like, it's so wild that like we're planning this
wedding because I totally thought she was going to be there,
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and there was even a part of me that was like,
maybe I just send the invite. Maybe I just invite.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Her and do it. If it's bothering, you send an invite.
But the fact is is that there are people that
come into your life. They come and they go yeah
at certain times no, And there're people that are important people.
That's what makes life so exciting and so interesting. You know.
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There have been some casual conversations that I've had with strangers,
like in an airport bar waiting for a flight, that
impacted me that I still think about the person in
the and the you know what happened to that person.
I picked up a hitchhiker named Tim Tinkerton years and
years ago. It was held so a horse with no
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name by America had come out if Riches listening. Let
me know what year that was. It was like seventy
or something. And I picked him up, not just me,
because I didn't have a driver's license until I was nineteen.
I hitchhiked everywhere myself, but my friends were in the car.
We picked him up and we drove him to wherever
the hell he was going. It was like a three
hour drive. We drove way way out of town. I
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think we took him to close to the Las Vegas
border or whatever, I mean, to the border of Nevada,
some little town because he was on his way on
this trip around the nation. And anyway, this guy was
so amazing and he shared so many interesting, beautiful stories
that they actually impacted my way of thinking. So this
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is somebody I saw for three three years, gave him
my address, and he and I wrote to each other
for probably twenty years, five years, and then all of
a sudden, you know, I didn't get I didn't hear
from him, and he still traveled his whole life long.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Do you think, wow, I.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Don't know, or else he lost his phone book or
you never really know, but out of the blue, you know,
it was just I never got a return envelope. It
just stopped writing. We just stopped running. But that was like,
so that was just one second. So my point is,
I'm the my little apple cider here is I don't
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drink much anymore. I did plenty in my youth. But
there are people that come and go in your life,
and some stay longer than a three hour car drive.
Some stay three months, three years or whatever. But there
comes a time where it's okay to separate. People change,
some change for the better and they go on, but
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mostly it's like you know that they kind of sometimes
they change, like addictions and stuff like that, and you
and not that you don't stand by the people that
need you the most, because you do. Oh yeah, you
stand by them, you back them up. But there comes
a point where sometimes, like especially with addictions, you have
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to say, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, I mean, you know, I you know, one of
my dearest friends stuffered with addiction and she was even
going to come remember my friend Maddie and she I mean,
I remember being so upset, and I remember her mom
called me and I started crying and I was like,
oh my.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Gosh, she's dead.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I remember thinking like, my friend's dead and I'm twenty,
what do you mean? Why is your mom calling me
out of the blue. And she was just calling me
to get in touch because she knew that we have
family that is can help with drug rehabilitation stuff like
that with Uncle.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
T and everything is Maddie sober now back sober to go.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
She looks good.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
She's working at the zips over off the Central.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Good for her.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Jalen saw her.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And said she didn't even recognize her.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Wow, that's wonderful. Yeah, I love Maddie, me too. I
love Maddie me too. That's one other beautiful thing about
growing up with you kids in that house in Agrotopia.
So the eight or nine years that we were there,
Jalen would come down and early in the morning, he'd
get out of bed. He doesn't do that anymore. Well,
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he does when he goes to work, but if he
doesn't have to get up, he's not gonna. But he
would come down and he and I would have breakfast. Well,
he'd have breakfast, I'd lay off the cereals or what
do you want to eat? And we'd have this we'd talk.
And so one day Miranda said, hey, do you want
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to go someplace? It was early in the morning for
something at school. I don't remember what it was. Do
you want me to take you to school for this
morning pep rally or whatever the hell it was. And
He's like, oh, no, Memy and I have our routine
and I'm not going to be the one to break.
It was so wonderful, you know, that was so so wonderful.
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But that encapsulated, like I got to be a part
of your life. Although I can never ever ever chaperone
when your slumber parties. Again, we have to get into this.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We have to get in because that is wild.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I need. We were I think I was in the
fifth grade, fifth sixth grade, like I said, and didn't
move out until we were We didn't sell that house
until I was a sophomore in college.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So that's a lot of life to be lived right there.
So I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To know, like what it was like kind of being
behind the scenes in the sense of like my mom
and dad being the parents and having to crack down
on certain things like that. Because my sister Dominique, I
mean dom by the time we moved into that house.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Was basically senior.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think she was there like her senior year.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Or maybe a junior, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
She was going to Bash, a high school where I
currently coach at, and she wasn't around for long, Like
I just remember Don would come back very ever so
from college. Yeah, so it was really I mean Dominique
got into some trouble in high school and stuff like that.
I mean, she would like go and stay the night
at Blake's house. Blake is my sister's baby daddy.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
For those that don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But mercifully I was kept out of that loop.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
She would go and spend the night at his house,
say that she was at another friend's house and all
that kind of stuff. She would go to parties, but
like I never really had when Dominique had a boyfriend,
I was. I mean, when Blake started coming around, I
was probably eight or nine. I was super young, and
I remember always telling myself, like, I'm never having a boyfriend.
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My sister has a boyfriend and they're annoying and they're
always together and they always get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I never have some boys.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But I have to interject right here, because when you
were three or four years old, Aunt two said, Peyton,
do you know what you want to be when you
grow up? And he said, yes, I want to be
a mommy. And I want a whole lot of baby daddies.
I want that, Yes you did.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I want a whole lot. I want a whole lot
of babies with the whole.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, the baby daddies. You call them baby daddies, And
so here you are, four years old. I want ten
babies with ten baby daddies or whatever wants the baby daddies.
That's the time much adorable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
For one, I don't want a baby daddy, and for two,
I definitely don't want lots of them.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, you know what it was? It was key too
because your mom her answer to that question when she
was about that same age as somebody said what do
you want to be? And she said, I want to
be a team mother. Well she said team t E
A M. And I thought she said T.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
E E M, and I went she did mark off
the team pregnancy or teen mother?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
She was nineteen when she was nineteen, that's okay, but no,
she said, mother, that's all she curs.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I think I'm the oldest by far to not have
any kids.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But that's okay. Hey, it's good, it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I just want to be married. We'll probably wait out
a couple of years for sure, but we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I didn't even have my wisdom teeth yet, you know,
I was. I was just a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So MEMI, so tell us, like, tell me some of
the things that you remember, like being in the background
of like did mom ever come to you and be
like WTF?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like what do I do here?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, I tried really hard to recognize that that
I'm the grandparent and the parents were all in the
same house, and I needed to make sure that I
did not offer advice or anything unless I was requested.
So I really stayed out of your of their business
(27:58):
as far as raising you can. And but there were,
you know, there were times where you involved me. Dominique.
You said was had problems in troubles. You were the
biggest trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You know, well, I can only say that you had
a slumber party and you guys, that's when you guys
were down in the basement. Ye we were, and the
kids were in the basement, and and I was in
the middle. I always stayed in the middle. I were there.
And then that slipped, you know, once or twice where
(28:34):
the parents were in the bo.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because Jalen was scared. Once Dominique moved out, Jalen was
too scared to sleep in the basement alone.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, so that's the reason you guys wanted to wound
up upstairs. But anyway, so you have a slubber party,
and and uh you said, I went downstairs and I said, okay, kids,
I'm going to go to bed. It was like eleven
or whatever. It was. Everybody good, everybody's fine, Yeah, you're
watching a movie in that movie room and that in
(29:00):
a room, and everybody was doing good. Everybody had food
and whatever. Then apparently when I went upstairs to go
to sleep, which I slept through you guys rating Dominique's
bar and stealing all the vodka and tequila, everybody got
stinking drunk. I did not, Well, you might not have.
(29:21):
I don't know. I don't know, but all the kids
are there, and then I guess a few of them
decided they would post selfies topless, ye or whatever. I
don't say.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, what happened was, oh my god, So things were
starting to get weird. I remember being at that sleepover,
and I remember it was like two of my friends,
and then there was another girl that went to school
with us, but she wasn't really like our friends were.
I think we were freshmen in high school. We were
freshmen in high school. And I remember thinking like, oh,
(29:56):
things are getting weird over here, like I'm not really
liking the and I didn't like it because I was
at my house. But it's also one o'clock in the morning.
I'm not going to tell these girls they have to go.
I'm not gonna go wake you up. Like, I'm just
like okay, guys, like I'm going to bed. I wake
up the next morning, they're like sick. I'm like, what happened?
Come to find out, they raided Dominique's. They went into
(30:19):
Dominique's closet, which I'm sure I showed them, you know
what I mean, I'm sure I probably and there was like, well,
I'm sure I said something, and then yeah, I remember.
I actually didn't know until the following Monday. I got
called into the principal's office because they didn't go to
the same school as as I did. They went to
(30:41):
like Perry or something, but they were my friends from
middle school. And yeah, I got called in the principal
office because there was a picture of them talkless in
my room, and apparently that they that this picture got
sent to some boy that they liked, and then that
picture getting circulated.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
It was this whole thing. I almost got suspended.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I was like, I swear, I have no idea what
is going on here?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, I have to tell you I found out about
it a little earlier than you did, because about five
thirty in the morning, somebody's banging on the front door
and it's the mother of one of the kids that
are in the basement, apparently hungover, saying you will never
watch my child. They will never come over here again.
(31:29):
Because I saw that and I said, oh my god,
I'm where were you?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I remember I wrote a letter because they lived in
our neighborhood. She was someone that we went to school
where we were going to school in Chandler, but lived
all the way out where we were in Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
It just happened by chance that we lived in the
same neighborhood. I remember I.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Wrote a letter to her mom, like please, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I didn't know, like this is my friend. I never
got anything back.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
She ended up transferring schools, like I think, she ended
up homeschooled, and.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Then that was it. But now she's like married and
has a kid and whatever she's.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I used to walk my dog by by their house
because Zagaratopea is really small, so I used to walk
bus to grals and uh. I can remember her being
up on the mom being up on the porch, the porch,
and she'd flipped me off.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh my god, no way, okay, no, that's actually really honey.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I wish you would have told you more.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But that's funny that you say that, because there's something
a little off about that family.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So the fact, yeah, she was very they were very odd.
But there was also another time. There was another time, uh,
where you and Jalen had a party when your mom
and I wered of town. I guess your dad might
have been with us, And when I got home, I thought,
I said, something's wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So that was when I went you dad, and mom
took me to you taught the.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh, so it's just so that's what you were with us.
So I was with you and Jalen was supposed to
be staying at Dominique.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Exactly and kind of how that happened and is Jalen
told me because Jalen was a junior in high school
going into his senior year. Was the summer going into
his senior year, and yeah, and I remember Jalen told
me he was going to have this party and I
was like, okay, well, I'm gonna send Kelsey and Haley,
my two of my best friends. I said to make
him check on the house to make sure you guys
(33:19):
don't burn the house down. So my two friends sat
outside of the party the entire night while all this
chaos was going.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So you knew that there was a party. Well what
turned out? So we get home and the house is
is there's just something wrong? Like everything was clean. So me,
I went right out to the trash, can you know,
to see what's in the you know, what's in there? Right?
Where's the beer and whatever? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's clean and Catholic kids will it's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Clean, you know, I said, okay, great. So when I
wound up going to bed that night, I pulled back
my blanket and I couldn't see the imprint of two
heads and two bodies like two on my pillow and
on the sheets, and they are in a clothes embrace.
And I'm like, Jayleen, they dad, get here right now.
(34:10):
And it turned out that it was that they'd had
a party. And then, of course, as soon as we
knew there really was one, then it was the barf
by the toilet and around his office there was a
sign that Jalen left on the door that said don't
come in hear my mother's office, that kind of stuff.
So he really thought it well, you know, thought it
through pretty well. But what the best thing in the
(34:31):
whole world was when I went to go to bed
that night, I reached I open up the drawer in
my bathroom where I keep my toothbrush, and I used
to bust. I used to brush my dog's teeth every
single day, every morning, every night, my beautiful bust and
girls got his teeth brush by me and I look
(34:52):
and somebody's taken a buster's toothbrush and a freaking brushter
teeth that I'm like.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It was so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
No, no, I didn't discipline him. That wasn't my job.
That was your parents. And I don't know what they
did to him. Same with you with your party. I
don't know what they did, but I am but I
was able to say, hey, Jalen, tell whoever was sleeping
in my in my bed last night or the night
before and they brushed their teeth with my dog's tooth
(35:25):
thrust It was worth it. But you know, you got
in trouble with me, like there was missing alcohol so
I had when when I divorced from Grants from the
third one, he didn't drink, so I never drank. So
I didn't drink for fifteen years. So the first thing
I did when we got the house is your mom
(35:45):
and I I said, we're going to total wine, no more.
And I think I spent I think I spent like
fifteen hundred bucks. I bought everything booze, and some of it,
like I just gave away the last of it because
I'd never even touched it, because I don't even drink
that much. Was just the freedom of that. But I
went ahead and had all of that alcohol, and then
(36:08):
it kept like disappearing. But only the stuff like that
was good, you know, not the cream dement and I
don't know all that crea. It was because because you
went to a party. I was watching the alcohol. You
told me, I think it's Grandpa Larry. Grandpa Larry was
here last week. Well somebody said, blamed it on uncle
(36:31):
Larry or Grandpa Larry. And so when I You're going
out to the party and I was watching the booths,
your mom or dad were out in the car or something.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Oh my gosh, I feel like you have a skewed
version of.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
What this was. Well whatever, and they anyway, they found
some alcohol with you and they said, look what we
got from Peyton. I opened up the bar to put
the bottle back, and there was like another bottle or
two missing. So I ran outside. They were already gone,
and you were in the car and I said, hand
me your purse, and you said, why mamme, mom already
(37:10):
got the alcohol. I said, hand me your purse, and
I reached into your person. There was a bubble of
boots and I pulled no. Yes, that happened at the
end in the driveway at Agritopia, and I said, have
a good time and don't drink and drive.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that was I don't remember that I remember that
story happening. I remember it was three of It was
me and two of my teammates who.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Also played basketball for Dad and so.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
But we all played basketball together in high school and
we were going to some party. And it wasn't even
a party now that I think about it. We were
just going to go and sit at the dump right
off of McQueen and Jermaine.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Right at Tumbleweed. Right over there they have the dump.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And I remember I remember vividly going into Dominique's room
and stealing her like cherry bottle of sarac It was
like this huge bottle of sap, and I remember I
put that in my backpack, and then I remember I
went to the garage and I grabbed all the beers
I could grab, and then I grabbed all of the
squirt like sodas in the bag, and I remember when
(38:06):
I left, Dad and Mom pulled up as we're walking
out of the house and they're driving up, and I
remember being like, oh my god, we're about to get
busted right now.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So we walk in.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Dad goes, hey, stop, stop where you're going and I
was like, oh, somebody snitched on us, because we knew
we hadn't invited one of our teammates to this party
and she was upset, so we knew that she probably
told her mom, and her mom probably told mom.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Is how we ended up piecing it all together. And
they pulled out the bottle of sarak and then I
remember Dad was like, what else is in here? He
could hear all the cans, and he pulled one out,
and by the grace of God, he pulled out the
squirt and.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Didn't pull out the beer.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And I remember being like, see, I told you, it's
just squirt.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And then and then Dad.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I remember it was us three, and he goes, what
do you think I should do right now?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Genuinely, what do you three think I should do right now?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Remember my two other friends, they were like, please tell
our parents.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Coach show. Please don't call our parents.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I would have said, give me back the vodka.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I told God, I said, I said take the alcohol and.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Let us go to the party. That's what you should do.
And he said okay.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He said, but next practice, you guys are conditioning until
you puke.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And we ran.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
We ran. That was bad.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I don't remember you catching me with it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, so there was there was more.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Anyway, it was. It was good. It was wonderful to
be with all of you guys as you were growing
up and and occasionally, you know, we only had one
fight the whole time too.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Right when we moved in. I remember you so upset.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I remember you threw the map quest directions away.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It was that was a violent reaction. I wear a
printed map.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Quest in and you were like, I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't even remember why we were fighting.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I don't either. I know it's I know it's something
we were going someplace, and I know it was something
very very small. But you know what, that was the
best thing that ever happened. It was about a year
in I think, and then we never had another argument
because we decided right then and there. If things are
kind of getting on your nerves. You just have to say,
like the first thing you asked me about advice, You
(40:23):
just have to communicate. It's really important because because that
keeps you know, that keeps everybody on the same the
same wavelength.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Perfect. Well, this was a good little chat, Sash.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Thank you on the podcast that was very longer than
what we had planned.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, I thought we wouldn't be able to build
the fifteen minutes, so you okay by listeners and John
Jay and Rich
And how long are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We'll aim for like between fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Perfect, No longer than not good, because I can't stand
to talk to you that long.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So me and my grandma, we call her Meme. We're
sitting here, we're about to record the podcast. We both
have our angry orchard.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hard apples ciders that we're slipping on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Cheers, cheers, all right, Mammy. I feel like you came
on the air a couple of weeks ago and everyone
loved like our little segment that we did where we
were going hit for hit. Yes, So I was like, Okay, well,
Mammy's gonna have to do the couple's podcast with me.
Kadin's gonna have to sit this round out, And because
I feel like everyone needs to get to know you
a little bit better, So tell our joun Drey and
(00:49):
Rich listeners a little bit about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You, Hello, John Jay and Rich listeners. I am Peyton's grandma.
I am the grandma to Dominique and Jalen. I am
the great grandma to King seven and Chosen, and they
just left. I am torn up this house, said the house.
(01:14):
I've got about two hours of clean up, but I
really love my family. I had Miranda, that is Peyton's mom,
when I was very young. I was eighteen years old,
and I worked hard, and we wound up having a
pretty good life. All in all, our poorest days were
(01:35):
really our best days because we enjoyed every single thing
that we had, no matter how small it would be.
If someone gave us a can of soup, it'd be
high five time. Literally. We lived a very quiet life,
but we all worked hard. Miranda is a hard worker.
(01:58):
All my grandkids are hard workers. My son in law
is a hard worker. That's showtime for those of you
that listened to the show and everything. It's been a
really wonderful life. So I've been married three times. I
get we're gonna have to get back into that later, Okay, perfect, Thanks.
(02:19):
You don't want to know why we all broke up.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, we can. We can get into that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, I got to say that. I do remember. There
was one story.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I think either you told it to me or Mom
told it to me, and I always think about it
all the time. How like when you guys like we're poor,
and after McDonalds would close, you guys would go to
the McDonald's and like ask for the food for the leftovers.
And I always thought that was so crazy because we
(02:51):
as kids were always so lucky that we never had
to worry about that kind of stuff. Like we had
a really really good childhood. We got what we wanted.
We were able to hang out with our friends, we
went on trips.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We did all that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But I mean, of course we had our bratty moments,
but I don't think we turned into being spoiled brats,
at least I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I we'll have to have a second podcast about it,
about the spoiled brat part. But no, And the story
was really wonderful. I was actually pregnant with your mom,
and I worked up until the very moment that I
couldn't anymore. So I was like eight and a half
months pregnant, and I didn't have any money and I
(03:30):
was hungry. So I walked two miles to the McDonald's
and it closed it like eleven thirty or twelve, I
don't really remember, so it was really late. I'm pregnant,
like really pregnant, almost nine months pregnant, and I went
to the McDonald's and I went in and I said
excuse me, Do you have any food that you're going
to throw away? Because I'm really hungry. And the manager
(03:54):
came out and he said, I'm sorry, we're forbidden to
do that. That's against our policy. He said, I'll tell
you what. I will be throwing some food away and
the trash cans right over here. So if you want
to go out to the trash can in five minutes,
I can't give it to you. So I said, okay.
So I waited outside and then I walked in the
(04:16):
back and on top of the trash can. Sorry, it
still makes me choked up, he had food in the
bags and sodas and there it was just loaded with
burgers and everything. And I was just like so touched
by his kindness. And then he wrote on one of
(04:37):
the bags, there'll be something here for you in the
trash every night. And so from then on I'd take
that walk and I would have food. And really it
was the kindness of that stranger. I don't know whatever
happened to him. We moved away shortly, and I never
got to tell him how much that meant to me.
(05:00):
That little simple act of kindness really set things for
my whole life. I've tried to give back to people
ever since then. I mean I was raised that way,
but literally that person kept us kept me from being
hungry for the last month that I carried your mom.
(05:22):
So that was that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That was wonderful and that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I mean, I know it was like you and
my mom for the majority of you guys's life. But
you're also one of ten, which is insane. You don't
find very many families nowadays with ten kids.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, but that was kind of normal. I mean, yeah,
we had like there were ten in ours, but most
people had someplace between like six and eight, you know.
And then one of the families in our neighborhood had seventeen.
And that was the Hickeys.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh. I remember you telling me about the Hickeyes, because
you told me about the Hickeys and you were like,
each one of us kids had a Hickey, And I
was like, you guys had your children, what do you
mean you have hickeys, but their last hickeys in our
hickeys in our class, everybody had the Hickey in their
class and the parents their names were ROBERTA.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I think his name was Robert, but all the
kids so as our h every kid was named with
an R. Anyway. There was ray Len renee Ronda Rock.
I don't remember, Randy, I don't remember, but if you
can think of a name with an R, there was
a Hickey attached to it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That is too funny.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay. I feel like the burning question that I've been
getting that the show has been getting is like, what's
the dynamic like now having twenty seven year old Peyton
moving back into the house with her fiance Kaden, Like
we lived here, Well, Kadeen came home for the summer
for about a month when I came here. When we
first started dating, you let him stay here, and then
(06:50):
after that I kind of got my own he moved
out here, I got my own playes, that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Kind of stuff. But how do you feel now that
we're back in the house.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, when Kadeen first came in, there was a no
fornication rule that right there still is. Do you know
what fornications?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No idea? What fortication means?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That is sex? Having sex?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, so there's a fortification.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
No fornication anyway, I have always and it comes back.
I don't mean to swing back to the man at McDonald's,
but it and your family, and that's a little different.
But I have always opened the door for anyone that
needed a place Randon I have had. If I had
(07:41):
to guess, it's probably thirty people that have lived with
us at different times. Now fast forward a year back,
and I love it. I'm really happy. Jalen's been back,
Dominique's been back, your mom and dad moved in here.
I mean, we're all wh happy family. Anybody that needs
(08:03):
a place to stay has always been welcome. But the
dynamic is is that I know that you guys are
paying rent, and your rent was being raised again. You're
trying to get money together for a wedding, and so
I just you said to me, Hey, what do you
think about that? And I was actually delighted. I'm really
(08:25):
enjoying having you guys here because Kadeem's quiet, and you know,
the past time that he was here, I didn't know
him very well. So I'm getting to know him really
well and I've developed a great relationship with him, and
I really love him, and that I loved him before,
(08:45):
but on a more.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Level, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Mean you've really gotten to get to know him. I mean,
you guys have sit down. There's been times where he's
come to you asking for advice on whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And I've asked him for, you know, his input on
certain things. But yeah, it's pretty kickback. It's pretty nice
and I appreciate that. So this has actually been a
gift for me to have you guys back, because I
enjoy having you around. I enjoy, like I said, I
(09:17):
enjoy getting to know Kadem better and I really really
love him. So that is what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, we appreciate you being here. I remember Kadeen he
was like telling me. He was like, so, I asked
your grandma how long she thinks how long she's expecting
us to be here?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That was so funny, he said, mamme, or could I
ask you a question? And said, sure, what's the question?
When do we have to go?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
When do we have to leave?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
When do you expect us to leave here? And I said, darling,
you can stay as long as you want, but I figure,
you know, I hope that you'll stay through you know,
the time up until the time that you get married,
you know, and if you stay beyond that, that's okay,
but not too long, okay, But you're more than welcome
(10:12):
to be here. I as you know, I have very
few rules, and you know I might be a pain
in the ass. Well, I know I am a pain
in the ass. I like things. I'm neat, Yeah, you know,
I like things.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'm necessarily the neatest person in the bunch.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But I try.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I feel like I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'll let like our room go, and then I'm like, Okay,
I gotta get this together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then we're back for like maybe a.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Day and a half and then I have to go
somewhere and then close her everywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But we're enjoying it though.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's been fun and it's been nice, and we're so
thankful that we're able to be able to like save
money on rent and then also still.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Be here because like the kids are over here all.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The time, so it's always fun to be able to
see my nephews and all that kind of stuff. Like
over Halloween, I mean, me and King whipped together his
costume in ten fricking minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That was so that was so wonderful because you know,
I bought I bought costumes for the two little ones,
and I asked Miranda, what about King, and she said, no,
he's going to be some anime character or something, so
I said, okay, no problem. And then he comes over
and says he's not trick or treating because he doesn't
have a costume and within fire, and he looked so
(11:21):
he was so upsessed. He looked really crapped out. But
he's eleven and he doesn't show his feelings very well.
And then when you said come on with me, we're
going to come up with something he like. It was
so nice to see him light up.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
She was loving it. We had fun putting it together.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, King is such an incredible kid. And I
have to just mention this, even though this is, you know,
not really about the podcast, but he had asked me,
I love the Turner Channel the classic movies. I mean
I love those movies and almost all of them are
in black and white. And he used to stay here
for the first, second and third grade during the school
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time and on the weekends he'd go home because our
school system was better and they were living in Castagram,
so he was here summer vacations or the breaks or
whatever it is on this year round stuff. Don't like it,
don't agree with it, go back to three months this
summer in freedom.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I loved being
on the year round.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because I feel like I got bored during summer, Like
we'd just be sitting around looking it's too hot to
go outside and play. Really, I would get bored. I
genuinely enjoyed our year round school system.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's horrible. But let me just tell you what King
asked me. So King said to me one day, he said, man,
could I ask you a question? Yes, she said, what
was it like when the world was black and white?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I am dead.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm like, oh my, honey, I just watched black and
white movies. The world is color? She said. Oh, I
thought because of back then, all those old movies. I
just thought, I mean, I thought they were film in color.
It was so wonderful. That's how his mind works. He's
so smart. But anyway, he's he's really a good kid.
(13:08):
But you know, it was really nice. One part that
I neglected to mention in our Little the Little Bio
was that when my divorced husband number three, I was
out looking for a house and we found a house
in Agritopia, which is an area in Gilbert that has
a basement. It was like fifty seven hundred square feet
(13:32):
it was a full out house. In the basement. It
had a movie room, it had three bedrooms, it had
an office, it had this huge den, it had a kitchen.
I mean, it was unbelievable. And then the street level
was mine and it was my master bedroom in the
kitchen and the dining room and all of that stuff.
And then upstairs there was three bedrooms or four bedrooms,
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I don't remember, a loft whatever. And so everybody was
it was like, all of a sudden, I wind up.
Your mom's a real estate agent, she's showing me houses,
and we wind up there. And then all of a sudden,
it wasn't just me moving out of my house from
my soon to be ex husband, all of you guys.
(14:17):
The plot, the plan was hatched that we would all
live together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I don't think a lot of people know that, Like
when we talk about, you know, Kadeem and I moving
back into the house, I don't think people know that
we lived together from the time I was in the
I think I was in the fifth grade.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, twenty ten is when.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So, yeah, I was like in the fifth sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Up until my sophomore year of high school, we lived
in the same exact house. So I'm glad that you
brought that back up because we were going to definitely
get into your divorce three times, because I, for one,
wanted to ask.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You two questions.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
One out of all of your marriages, because you married
my grandpa, my dad's mom, right, my grandpa Quirky, and
then you married Jean Vinson.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We've talked about Jean Vincent on the air before. I
don't know if I've ever told you that.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't remember how he got brought up.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Oh, I remember how he got brought up. I had
told the story about how you went to.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
France and you met Jean Vassan and you guys, you
came home and you told my mom that she had
a present coming for her and it wasn't that, Like
who does that to a fifteen year old girl? And
then and then to top it off, he made her
rabbit for So I told that story on the air,
(15:36):
and I remember John was cracking up because I kept
saying Jean Vnsan.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's like, is his name Jean or is it always
Jean Vinson?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I was like.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Always?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then you know you married and then divorced grants.
I guess, so my two questions, is me going into
this new bridal era? What is one thing of advice
that you would give me? Give me two things of
advice that you would give me moving into this next era.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
This is very easy. Don't ask someone that's spit merror
three times the worst three times advice? Okay, all right, yeah,
but I actually on the outside, on the on the
flip side, it's just communicate, Just communicate, don't let ship build,
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you know, that's really the that's really the thing. Depending
on your personality and yours isn't like mine, you know,
I will, you know, I'll keep my mouth shut. Not
around here. You don't see that part of me. Well, husbands,
you know, I I wait, and I just don't like it.
I don't like altercations. So I just, you know, go
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ten years without having an argument and then I wind
up divorce the first one. So that's not true. That's
a fabrication. So that's the only thing that I could say.
And then the only other thing that I would say
is remember why when things are rough, remember why you
married this person. Remember the joy that you had on
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the wedding day. Hopefully you will have a joyful wedding day,
but just you know, remembered why you married him in
the first place, because you tend people can tend to
lose sight of the things that are the best in
every relationship, you know, you get irritated, irritations or irritations.
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Love is a lot deeper than irritations, definitely, So there
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I feel like with me and Kadeem like I genuinely
pride myself in the fact that, like we were friends first.
I think I I have a different idea. I thought
Kadem and I were better friends, and apparently he says
we were. He doesn't think we were as good as
friends as we were, And I was like, I thought
(17:56):
we were besties, Like what do you mean, Like.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I can't believe you didn't that way, Like I felt
so betrayed.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I do like whenever, like I want to, like,
if he's irritating me and I just like, oh, like
you're being annoying, I'll just be like, wait, like you're
my friend.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I have to tell you have always though you have
such deep friendships, I am not surprised at all that
you made that connection with him and he was your
best friend, that he was your close friend. Because you've
got like thirty of them. I do. I mean, you
have a lot of friends. And the only other person
that I've ever seen like that is your cousin Sean.
(18:33):
And your cousin Sean has friends with people that he
went to preschool with. Yeah, every stage of his life
he has at least one, and he has worked very hard,
like you do, to stay in touch with people. You'll do.
You know, you treasure relationships, you value me do?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I really do?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And I really don't like when people are upset with
me that like will keep me up that night.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Like I think that a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I put out like this tough, hard exterior a lot
of times and really like I'm just a softy.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
And I cry and everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I think, over the course of my probably since
Me Kadima have been together, I've like really mourned like
two of my friendships that I really had, and I
still think about them all the time, and I get
upset because I'm like dang. I told Kadem the other day,
I was like with one of my specific friends, I
was like, it's so wild that like we're planning this
wedding because I totally thought she was going to be there,
(19:27):
and there was even a part of me that was like,
maybe I just send the invite. Maybe I just invite.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Her and do it. If it's bothering, you send an invite.
But the fact is is that there are people that
come into your life. They come and they go yeah
at certain times no, And there're people that are important people.
That's what makes life so exciting and so interesting. You know.
(19:51):
There have been some casual conversations that I've had with strangers,
like in an airport bar waiting for a flight, that
impacted me that I still think about the person in
the and the you know what happened to that person.
I picked up a hitchhiker named Tim Tinkerton years and
years ago. It was held so a horse with no
(20:14):
name by America had come out if Riches listening. Let
me know what year that was. It was like seventy
or something. And I picked him up, not just me,
because I didn't have a driver's license until I was nineteen.
I hitchhiked everywhere myself, but my friends were in the car.
We picked him up and we drove him to wherever
the hell he was going. It was like a three
hour drive. We drove way way out of town. I
(20:37):
think we took him to close to the Las Vegas
border or whatever, I mean, to the border of Nevada,
some little town because he was on his way on
this trip around the nation. And anyway, this guy was
so amazing and he shared so many interesting, beautiful stories
that they actually impacted my way of thinking. So this
(20:58):
is somebody I saw for three three years, gave him
my address, and he and I wrote to each other
for probably twenty years, five years, and then all of
a sudden, you know, I didn't get I didn't hear
from him, and he still traveled his whole life long.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Do you think, wow, I.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Don't know, or else he lost his phone book or
you never really know, but out of the blue, you know,
it was just I never got a return envelope. It
just stopped writing. We just stopped running. But that was like,
so that was just one second. So my point is,
I'm the my little apple cider here is I don't
(21:37):
drink much anymore. I did plenty in my youth. But
there are people that come and go in your life,
and some stay longer than a three hour car drive.
Some stay three months, three years or whatever. But there
comes a time where it's okay to separate. People change,
some change for the better and they go on, but
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mostly it's like you know that they kind of sometimes
they change, like addictions and stuff like that, and you
and not that you don't stand by the people that
need you the most, because you do. Oh yeah, you
stand by them, you back them up. But there comes
a point where sometimes, like especially with addictions, you have
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to say, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, I mean, you know, I you know, one of
my dearest friends stuffered with addiction and she was even
going to come remember my friend Maddie and she I mean,
I remember being so upset, and I remember her mom
called me and I started crying and I was like,
oh my.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Gosh, she's dead.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I remember thinking like, my friend's dead and I'm twenty,
what do you mean? Why is your mom calling me
out of the blue. And she was just calling me
to get in touch because she knew that we have
family that is can help with drug rehabilitation stuff like
that with Uncle.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
T and everything is Maddie sober now back sober to go.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
She looks good.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
She's working at the zips over off the Central.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Good for her.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Jalen saw her.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And said she didn't even recognize her.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Wow, that's wonderful. Yeah, I love Maddie, me too. I
love Maddie me too. That's one other beautiful thing about
growing up with you kids in that house in Agrotopia.
So the eight or nine years that we were there,
Jalen would come down and early in the morning, he'd
get out of bed. He doesn't do that anymore. Well,
(23:27):
he does when he goes to work, but if he
doesn't have to get up, he's not gonna. But he
would come down and he and I would have breakfast. Well,
he'd have breakfast, I'd lay off the cereals or what
do you want to eat? And we'd have this we'd talk.
And so one day Miranda said, hey, do you want
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to go someplace? It was early in the morning for
something at school. I don't remember what it was. Do
you want me to take you to school for this
morning pep rally or whatever the hell it was. And
He's like, oh, no, Memy and I have our routine
and I'm not going to be the one to break.
It was so wonderful, you know, that was so so wonderful.
(24:11):
But that encapsulated, like I got to be a part
of your life. Although I can never ever ever chaperone
when your slumber parties. Again, we have to get into this.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We have to get in because that is wild.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I need. We were I think I was in the
fifth grade, fifth sixth grade, like I said, and didn't
move out until we were We didn't sell that house
until I was a sophomore in college.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So that's a lot of life to be lived right there.
So I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To know, like what it was like kind of being
behind the scenes in the sense of like my mom
and dad being the parents and having to crack down
on certain things like that. Because my sister Dominique, I
mean dom by the time we moved into that house.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Was basically senior.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think she was there like her senior year.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Or maybe a junior, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
She was going to Bash, a high school where I
currently coach at, and she wasn't around for long, Like
I just remember Don would come back very ever so
from college. Yeah, so it was really I mean Dominique
got into some trouble in high school and stuff like that.
I mean, she would like go and stay the night
at Blake's house. Blake is my sister's baby daddy.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
For those that don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But mercifully I was kept out of that loop.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
She would go and spend the night at his house,
say that she was at another friend's house and all
that kind of stuff. She would go to parties, but
like I never really had when Dominique had a boyfriend,
I was. I mean, when Blake started coming around, I
was probably eight or nine. I was super young, and
I remember always telling myself, like, I'm never having a boyfriend.
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My sister has a boyfriend and they're annoying and they're
always together and they always get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I never have some boys.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But I have to interject right here, because when you
were three or four years old, Aunt two said, Peyton,
do you know what you want to be when you
grow up? And he said, yes, I want to be
a mommy. And I want a whole lot of baby daddies.
I want that, Yes you did.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I want a whole lot. I want a whole lot
of babies with the whole.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, the baby daddies. You call them baby daddies, And
so here you are, four years old. I want ten
babies with ten baby daddies or whatever wants the baby daddies.
That's the time much adorable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
For one, I don't want a baby daddy, and for two,
I definitely don't want lots of them.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, you know what it was? It was key too
because your mom her answer to that question when she
was about that same age as somebody said what do
you want to be? And she said, I want to
be a team mother. Well she said team t E
A M. And I thought she said T.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
E E M, and I went she did mark off
the team pregnancy or teen mother?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
She was nineteen when she was nineteen, that's okay, but no,
she said, mother, that's all she curs.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I think I'm the oldest by far to not have
any kids.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But that's okay. Hey, it's good, it's it's really good.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I just want to be married. We'll probably wait out
a couple of years for sure, but we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I didn't even have my wisdom teeth yet, you know,
I was. I was just a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So MEMI, so tell us, like, tell me some of
the things that you remember, like being in the background
of like did mom ever come to you and be
like WTF?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like what do I do here?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, I tried really hard to recognize that that
I'm the grandparent and the parents were all in the
same house, and I needed to make sure that I
did not offer advice or anything unless I was requested.
So I really stayed out of your of their business
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as far as raising you can. And but there were,
you know, there were times where you involved me. Dominique.
You said was had problems in troubles. You were the
biggest trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You know, well, I can only say that you had
a slumber party and you guys, that's when you guys
were down in the basement. Ye we were, and the
kids were in the basement, and and I was in
the middle. I always stayed in the middle. I were there.
And then that slipped, you know, once or twice where
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the parents were in the bo.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because Jalen was scared. Once Dominique moved out, Jalen was
too scared to sleep in the basement alone.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, so that's the reason you guys wanted to wound
up upstairs. But anyway, so you have a slubber party,
and and uh you said, I went downstairs and I said, okay, kids,
I'm going to go to bed. It was like eleven
or whatever. It was. Everybody good, everybody's fine, Yeah, you're
watching a movie in that movie room and that in
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a room, and everybody was doing good. Everybody had food
and whatever. Then apparently when I went upstairs to go
to sleep, which I slept through you guys rating Dominique's
bar and stealing all the vodka and tequila, everybody got
stinking drunk. I did not, Well, you might not have.
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I don't know. I don't know, but all the kids
are there, and then I guess a few of them
decided they would post selfies topless, ye or whatever. I
don't say.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, what happened was, oh my god, So things were
starting to get weird. I remember being at that sleepover,
and I remember it was like two of my friends,
and then there was another girl that went to school
with us, but she wasn't really like our friends were.
I think we were freshmen in high school. We were
freshmen in high school. And I remember thinking like, oh,
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things are getting weird over here, like I'm not really
liking the and I didn't like it because I was
at my house. But it's also one o'clock in the morning.
I'm not going to tell these girls they have to go.
I'm not gonna go wake you up. Like, I'm just
like okay, guys, like I'm going to bed. I wake
up the next morning, they're like sick. I'm like, what happened?
Come to find out, they raided Dominique's. They went into
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Dominique's closet, which I'm sure I showed them, you know
what I mean, I'm sure I probably and there was like, well,
I'm sure I said something, and then yeah, I remember.
I actually didn't know until the following Monday. I got
called into the principal's office because they didn't go to
the same school as as I did. They went to
(30:41):
like Perry or something, but they were my friends from
middle school. And yeah, I got called in the principal
office because there was a picture of them talkless in
my room, and apparently that they that this picture got
sent to some boy that they liked, and then that
picture getting circulated.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
It was this whole thing. I almost got suspended.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I was like, I swear, I have no idea what
is going on here?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, I have to tell you I found out about
it a little earlier than you did, because about five
thirty in the morning, somebody's banging on the front door
and it's the mother of one of the kids that
are in the basement, apparently hungover, saying you will never
watch my child. They will never come over here again.
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Because I saw that and I said, oh my god,
I'm where were you?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I remember I wrote a letter because they lived in
our neighborhood. She was someone that we went to school
where we were going to school in Chandler, but lived
all the way out where we were in Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
It just happened by chance that we lived in the
same neighborhood. I remember I.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Wrote a letter to her mom, like please, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I didn't know, like this is my friend. I never
got anything back.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
She ended up transferring schools, like I think, she ended
up homeschooled, and.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Then that was it. But now she's like married and
has a kid and whatever she's.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I used to walk my dog by by their house
because Zagaratopea is really small, so I used to walk
bus to grals and uh. I can remember her being
up on the mom being up on the porch, the porch,
and she'd flipped me off.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh my god, no way, okay, no, that's actually really honey.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I wish you would have told you more.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But that's funny that you say that, because there's something
a little off about that family.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So the fact, yeah, she was very they were very odd.
But there was also another time. There was another time, uh,
where you and Jalen had a party when your mom
and I wered of town. I guess your dad might
have been with us, And when I got home, I thought,
I said, something's wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So that was when I went you dad, and mom
took me to you taught the.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh, so it's just so that's what you were with us.
So I was with you and Jalen was supposed to
be staying at Dominique.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Exactly and kind of how that happened and is Jalen
told me because Jalen was a junior in high school
going into his senior year. Was the summer going into
his senior year, and yeah, and I remember Jalen told
me he was going to have this party and I
was like, okay, well, I'm gonna send Kelsey and Haley,
my two of my best friends. I said to make
him check on the house to make sure you guys
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don't burn the house down. So my two friends sat
outside of the party the entire night while all this
chaos was going.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So you knew that there was a party. Well what
turned out? So we get home and the house is
is there's just something wrong? Like everything was clean. So me,
I went right out to the trash, can you know,
to see what's in the you know, what's in there? Right?
Where's the beer and whatever? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's clean and Catholic kids will it's.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Clean, you know, I said, okay, great. So when I
wound up going to bed that night, I pulled back
my blanket and I couldn't see the imprint of two
heads and two bodies like two on my pillow and
on the sheets, and they are in a clothes embrace.
And I'm like, Jayleen, they dad, get here right now.
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And it turned out that it was that they'd had
a party. And then, of course, as soon as we
knew there really was one, then it was the barf
by the toilet and around his office there was a
sign that Jalen left on the door that said don't
come in hear my mother's office, that kind of stuff.
So he really thought it well, you know, thought it
through pretty well. But what the best thing in the
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whole world was when I went to go to bed
that night, I reached I open up the drawer in
my bathroom where I keep my toothbrush, and I used
to bust. I used to brush my dog's teeth every
single day, every morning, every night, my beautiful bust and
girls got his teeth brush by me and I look
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and somebody's taken a buster's toothbrush and a freaking brushter
teeth that I'm like.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It was so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
No, no, I didn't discipline him. That wasn't my job.
That was your parents. And I don't know what they
did to him. Same with you with your party. I
don't know what they did, but I am but I
was able to say, hey, Jalen, tell whoever was sleeping
in my in my bed last night or the night
before and they brushed their teeth with my dog's tooth
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thrust It was worth it. But you know, you got
in trouble with me, like there was missing alcohol so
I had when when I divorced from Grants from the
third one, he didn't drink, so I never drank. So
I didn't drink for fifteen years. So the first thing
I did when we got the house is your mom
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and I I said, we're going to total wine, no more.
And I think I spent I think I spent like
fifteen hundred bucks. I bought everything booze, and some of it,
like I just gave away the last of it because
I'd never even touched it, because I don't even drink
that much. Was just the freedom of that. But I
went ahead and had all of that alcohol, and then
(36:08):
it kept like disappearing. But only the stuff like that
was good, you know, not the cream dement and I
don't know all that crea. It was because because you
went to a party. I was watching the alcohol. You
told me, I think it's Grandpa Larry. Grandpa Larry was
here last week. Well somebody said, blamed it on uncle
(36:31):
Larry or Grandpa Larry. And so when I You're going
out to the party and I was watching the booths,
your mom or dad were out in the car or something.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Oh my gosh, I feel like you have a skewed
version of.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
What this was. Well whatever, and they anyway, they found
some alcohol with you and they said, look what we
got from Peyton. I opened up the bar to put
the bottle back, and there was like another bottle or
two missing. So I ran outside. They were already gone,
and you were in the car and I said, hand
me your purse, and you said, why mamme, mom already
(37:10):
got the alcohol. I said, hand me your purse, and
I reached into your person. There was a bubble of
boots and I pulled no. Yes, that happened at the
end in the driveway at Agritopia, and I said, have
a good time and don't drink and drive.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that was I don't remember that I remember that
story happening. I remember it was three of It was
me and two of my teammates who.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Also played basketball for Dad and so.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
But we all played basketball together in high school and
we were going to some party. And it wasn't even
a party now that I think about it. We were
just going to go and sit at the dump right
off of McQueen and Jermaine.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Right at Tumbleweed. Right over there they have the dump.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And I remember I remember vividly going into Dominique's room
and stealing her like cherry bottle of sarac It was
like this huge bottle of sap, and I remember I
put that in my backpack, and then I remember I
went to the garage and I grabbed all the beers
I could grab, and then I grabbed all of the
squirt like sodas in the bag, and I remember when
(38:06):
I left, Dad and Mom pulled up as we're walking
out of the house and they're driving up, and I
remember being like, oh my god, we're about to get
busted right now.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So we walk in.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Dad goes, hey, stop, stop where you're going and I
was like, oh, somebody snitched on us, because we knew
we hadn't invited one of our teammates to this party
and she was upset, so we knew that she probably
told her mom, and her mom probably told mom.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Is how we ended up piecing it all together. And
they pulled out the bottle of sarak and then I
remember Dad was like, what else is in here? He
could hear all the cans, and he pulled one out,
and by the grace of God, he pulled out the
squirt and.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Didn't pull out the beer.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And I remember being like, see, I told you, it's
just squirt.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And then and then Dad.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I remember it was us three, and he goes, what
do you think I should do right now?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Genuinely, what do you three think I should do right now?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Remember my two other friends, they were like, please tell
our parents.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Coach show. Please don't call our parents.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I would have said, give me back the vodka.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I told God, I said, I said take the alcohol and.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Let us go to the party. That's what you should do.
And he said okay.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He said, but next practice, you guys are conditioning until
you puke.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And we ran.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
We ran. That was bad.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I don't remember you catching me with it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, so there was there was more.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Anyway, it was. It was good. It was wonderful to
be with all of you guys as you were growing
up and and occasionally, you know, we only had one
fight the whole time too.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Right when we moved in. I remember you so upset.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I remember you threw the map quest directions away.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It was that was a violent reaction. I wear a
printed map.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Quest in and you were like, I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't even remember why we were fighting.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I don't either. I know it's I know it's something
we were going someplace, and I know it was something
very very small. But you know what, that was the
best thing that ever happened. It was about a year
in I think, and then we never had another argument
because we decided right then and there. If things are
kind of getting on your nerves. You just have to say,
like the first thing you asked me about advice, You
(40:23):
just have to communicate. It's really important because because that
keeps you know, that keeps everybody on the same the
same wavelength.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Perfect. Well, this was a good little chat, Sash.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Thank you on the podcast that was very longer than
what we had planned.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, I thought we wouldn't be able to build
the fifteen minutes, so you okay by listeners and John
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