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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome to the Buck Brief. Tnalo Desher is with us. Now,
congratulations getting married. I met your husband. Fantastic guy. Haven't
spoken to you since the nuptials, so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
She is a.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Columnist at the DC Examiner. And Tina, you're a woman.
So we can answer that question that Matt Walsh asked
as a documentary what is a woman? Tianeloe is a woman.
For example, Kamala Harris also a woman. And I bring
this up not the smoothest transition in the world, but
I bring this up because the Democrats seem to think
that Kamala will win with women and therefore win the
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whole thing. What do you see in that? What are
the polls tell us? Make it all make sense?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So any generic Democrat against Trump is going to perform
well with women Historically speaking, you know, Trump loses women,
Democrats gain them. Kamala Harris specifically is a woman, and
she's a younger woman at that, even though she's turning sixty,
that counts as young in politics because we've been dealing
with octagenarians with strokes and heart attacks.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But the thing is, her margin with women is not
over compensating for the fact book.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
She's running so far behind what Biden performed in twenty
twenty with both black voters and young voters. Right, you
would think her being black, herbing Asian, herbing young would.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Mean something when it comes to these polls.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But pull after poll is showing Trump getting close to
about twenty percent of the black vote by some estimation,
including in those five way races where you include an
RFKJ and all of that twenty percent would mark the
single best Republican performance with black voters since Nixon in
nineteen sixty. With young voters, it's also, you know, Trump
only god, I think thirty five percent of voters under
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thirty in twenty twenty, and now you see him polling
where you know, Morning Consult poll just came out calm
Olia Harris like forty seven percent with voters eighteen to
thirty four. Trump was like forty three percent. So even
if let's say Kamal Harris decides to quadruple down on
the Democrats only winning issue abortion, let's say that continue
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to lie and say that Trump is going to be
Handmaid's Tale dictator Project twenty twenty five, even though he's
not responsible for that at all, even and as you
and I know is like pro lifers, Trump's much more
moderate than really most of the party establishment on that issue.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Even if she maximizes that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Female turnout, including with non white women, including with you know,
non college educated women, I think that closing of the
racial gap might just be too much to compensate because
that's been the Democratic bread and butter for forty fifty
years you can't get rid of. I mean, if the
Hispanic vote is now a fifty to fifty draw, that's
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you know, likely a Trump win. If you were talking
Trump getting in the double digits with black voters, not
even twenty percent. Let's say, you know, let's say he
performed with black voters overall the same way he performed
with black men in twenty twenty twelve percent.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
That destroys the Democratic coalition for a generation.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah. Well, Clay and I have a bet over this.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
By the way, he thinks that the black vote will
be for a black mail vote will be twenty five
percent for Trump, And I told him, I think that's high.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I would love I'd love to see it. I
like where his head's at. Kabla.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
On the issues, I think everyone who's on the right, nos,
you're gonna go after on saying that she would ban
fracking in some ways, that actually may be the craziest
thing that she has said to me, just because it
is so objectively insane. I mean, if there were a
federal ban on fracking, you would overnight eliminate sixty percent
of US oil production. Sixty That would not just make
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the price of gas and everything else, by the way
go up, it would cause depression. I mean, the the
the economic gramification and the fact that she says this
and things that it's smart is because she knows nothing
about fossil fuels, the economy, energy industry, anything. But on
the personal stuff, it's really interesting. I feel like there's
a there's an internal debate on the right, and I
think it's happening within the campaign the Trump campaign too,
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as to do they go after the fact that Kamala
Harris elevated herself as a woman by attaching herself romantically
to powerful men. I mean, you know the Willy Brown story.
I think a lot of people know the Willy Brown story.
Do you think that that is fair game? Or is
that an invitation for a backfire on the right on Trump?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In this election, I'm gonna say so many things that
will make so many different people mad. So Kamala Harris's
relationship with Willy Brown, I've studied it a lot back
when she was, you know, just running for Senate. Kamala
Harris has never been a terribly popular politician, even with
in her home state. She ran in twenty ten, her
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first statewide election as AG she won by under one
percent compared to like Gavin Newsom who was running for
a lieutenant governor and Jerry Brown for governor, who both
won by.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Like over ten points. So she's never been that popular.
The Willie Brown.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Thing absolutely did give her her start, right, But then again,
Gavin Newsom also got to start from the Getty family,
So everyone in California basically has a patron. If you're
going to get to that level in politics, it's not
a clean state. If Kamala Harris were running against Mitt Romney,
if she if she were running against J. D Vance,
you know, and jd Vance was the top of the ticket,
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I would say, sure, why not? But the fact is
this is Trump, who, like for all of his virtues,
does not have the cleanest marital record and when it
comes to fidelity and monogamy within the bounds of matrimony.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
But the real reason I wouldn't lead.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
With it is because kamala Is positions are terrible enough
on their own. You know, the fracking thing, Yes, that's insane,
it's like, but literally, off the top of my head,
off the top of my head, the fifth most insane
thing she said more insane than that is she said
that she'd be willing to ban all private health insurance.
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She was an original co sponsor of the Green New
Deal that would not just ban fracking but also nationalize
the entire energy industry.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
And the entire health sectors. That's like thirty percent of
the US economy.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Let's see the Kavanaugh conspiracy theories that she pushed, which
to this day she never explained half of her line
of questioning. And yet like that's how she went viral. Okay,
So that's that's that's just three off the top of
my head. There's no reason to go after her in
if you want to point out, this is someone that
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is not electable, This is someone who was never if
you can't be popular in the Indigo blue state of California,
and GovTrack showed.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That she was.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
She had a more liberal left wing voting record than
Bernie Sanders when she was in the Senate. This is
not someone that you know. You and I talked to
Republican elected officials and sometimes they won't go on the
record with it, but they'll say for this entire presidency,
if they wanted to get anything done. You know, historically
the vice president's job is to jockey those Senate votes.
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They are the president of the Senate, and also historically speaking,
they get pulled from Congress. You know, even though like
Pence was great at whipping votes. Joe Biden, that's part
of the reason why he was picked for Barack Obama.
That's why I want to call, you know, Barack Obama,
Professor Obama. Joe Biden would go whip the votes and
get the bill done. Kamina Harrison can't do any of
that because she doesn't she doesn't have that bone in
her body to try and work with Republicans. She, like
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her boss, is very much a weather vane, is very
much you know, girls taken more positions than the Kama Sutra.
So you know, the Willie Brown stuff, it's more corruption
question than a sexual morality.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Question, right. You know, the defense Willie.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Brown has always made is he and his wife were
separated at the time. Who doesn't get their girlfriend, you know,
a BMW and a one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
government stipend to be on a board.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
This is just normal stuff, right, But it's really a
corruption question, That's what matters.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I want to come back here and I want you
to answer, or not an answer, but dive into something
else for me. Gavin Newsom, you're a Californian. For those
who don't know, Tina and I go back some years,
so I know that she grew up in the Golden State,
and you're in the Bay Area too, right, not even
like the southern part of the state, which to me
is less insane.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I I was Orange County, Orange Okay, okay, yeah, that's
my favorite part of the state. But the rest of California,
well all of California think has some issues. Gavin Newsom
is now going to have to order the encampments, the
homeless encampments or whatever the vagrant ten things to be cleaned.
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Like why aren't all Democrats celebrating that they like living
next to homss insanity in California.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's not a good thing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Reality is just slapping them in the face.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's the first item that's making me think that he
wants to be Kamala Harris's VP, which she would never do,
because how does Newsome encourage you know, the russ Belt
vote or the sun Belt vote. But it's a sign
that there's someone that maybe is confidence in the electoral
future of the Democratic Party. Look but my theory when
they got Biden out and immediately endorsed Harris, my initial theory.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Was she's gonna be the fall guy.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Gretchen Whitmer, you know, any of these guys that have
a future in potentially twenty twenty eight, they would rather
have Harris lose to Trump. Trump's a one term lame
duck anyway, and then try and get the easier race
of twenty two. But the fact that you have someone
as radically left as Newsome, because again Newsom is not
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a moderate.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Newsom is incredibly left wing.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I was just looking at the numbers today the California
bill that basically banned gig workers, banned uber drivers and
forces them to be be classified as W two employees.
It led to something like almost ten percent decrease in
full in overall employment in the industries that it regulated,
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right truckers, translators, screenwriters for hire. And so that Newsom's
backtracking on that record and cleaning up the encampments, it's like, fuck,
It's like the same thing is when like the military
starts cutting ads with like masculine, manly white men after
you know, years of the Rainbow flag and women, and
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you know, Charlie's Thererence Like it's it's they realize they're losing.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
They need to They all they're all racing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
To have some sort of as to soldier moment, and
really the solution for Democrats at least they could try
and do it would be plucked Josh Shapiro as a
running mate for Harris. But I genuinely think the party
is probably institutionally too antisemitic to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I hope I'm wrong, But I did think it was
interesting that Democrats immediately really came forward. It seemed to
me to say, well, hold on a second on that
whole Joshapiro thing, like maybe our base won't go for that.
It's like, well, what are you saying there, Democrats? That
felt like saying the quiet part out loud a little bit.
I know it's not There are a lot of Jews
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who vote Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think a majority again in this election will end
up voting Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I have no illusions about that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But there's a good that squad, you know, left wing
portion of the Democrat base. There's a lot of anti Semitism,
so much so that I think that they worry about
having an orthodox Jewish vice president.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Joe Biden ran because of the Charlottesville rally in twenty seventeen,
the neo Nazi rally, and because they all can't stop
promulgating the very fine people on both sides lie, right,
we know it's a lie. They keep on repeating it anyway,
But he ran specifically because that one day. Since October seventh,
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we have had a Charlottesville every single weekend, sometimes multiple
times a week. Every top one hundred university campus in
America has had a Charlottesville has had an encampment yesterday
in Union Station, like walking distance from my old studio
apartment in DC, defaced with hamas destroying the Columbus statue
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and National Park Police. That's that's federal jurisdiction, right, that's
not even local police. So you can't even punt that
and say oh, this is You can't even punt that
and say, oh, that's Mayor Bowser's fault. No, that's Biden administration.
And there weren't any arrests. We have a we have
a sh Charlottesville every week. And look, I think you
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know that I have been incredibly critical of President Trump
and specifically the handling of you know, after the twenty
twenty election. January sixth was a couple of weeks leading
into it and then one really bad day and since
then people have rightly paid hell for it. The election
coup that we've had going on has been four years,
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four years of concealing the president's condition, which is obviously
like deteriorating. Let's be real that debate, that was a
mental incident, that was a medical emergency that we saw.
Then they after a primary where they canceled two state
primaries where they blocked all other candidates from being named
on another eight states, disenfranchising a fifth of their own voters.
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They then replace that candidate with a candidate that has
never won a single primary vote.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Not in twenty twenty, not in twenty twenty four. And
so when you see now them.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Pan, I can realize, oh, the tail wags the dog.
It's like, you can disenfranchise your entire voting base for
four years, try and disenfranchise the right by fighting to
try and put Trump in prison or take him off
the ballot, which thank god the Supreme Court stopped. But
you can't stand up to the base and condemn the
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anti semitism. You can't stand up to the base and
risk appointing a Jewish Man as you're running mate. It's
it's I would at that rate, it's just complicity in
the anti semitism. And look, we all know on the
right we also have fringe alt right figures that I
think that are not platformed.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
In the same way that you have cheated to leave.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But I was gonna say, you don't have Republican members
of Congress who Republicans are like, hey, look that guy
that Republican congressman may be a huge anti semi but
like he's got some other good ideas, like that the
left that is real. That is that is a real thing.
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this will be fun because, uh what we can either
pretend like this never happened, or we can have you
back and say you're a genius.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Who's going to win this presidential election?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean Trump? I yeah, Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think Democrats are basically in the position they were
before the debate, which, as you might recall, was still
not good. Great Biden only agreed to the debate because
he knew he was losing.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So the coup hasn't solved all their problems. That's delusional
in your mind, right, the Kamala coup.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's it's the case for Trump isn't about Trump, and
the case for Kamala or the case against Kamala isn't
about her as a person. It is the fact that
prices are up twenty percent since the start of the
Biden Harris administration, that real average weekly wages are down
five percent, that we've had ten million people cross the
border for border crossings, that have about quadrupled on average.
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And uh, it's the fact that the entire world's on fire,
you know, for whatever Trump said bad things, but we
all know it was a lot more the world was
a lot more stable when he was in office.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
TNLO.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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It's spelled t I A N A. I'm like the
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I'm just saying true. I am like the only one,
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Speaker 1 (18:26):
I was an.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Early early supporter. Look look how great she is with
the analysis and everything else. Before everybody knew. I was
like TNLO, she's gonna be great, probably gonna probably gonna
be amazing. And now she's married to a fantastic guy,
writing her columns, doing the TV, doing the wonderful things.
I am so happy to see all of your success.
And uh, let's talk again soon. Come back on the
podcast soon.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yes, it's been far too long. And thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Buck, give the hubs my regards. Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Thank you