February 17, 2025 • 13 mins
Buck Sexton is joined by Auron MacIntyre to discuss the latest Senate confirmations of RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Kash Patel—appointments that have drawn strong opposition from Democrats. They explore why each of these figures poses a threat to the existing power structures, from RFK Jr.’s skepticism of Big Pharma and the COVID-19 narrative to Tulsi Gabbard’s break from the Democratic establishment and criticism of the intelligence community. MacIntyre argues that these appointees are uniquely positioned to challenge the bureaucratic status quo, particularly Kash Patel, whose deep knowledge of the FBI’s inner workings makes him a significant threat to the entrenched corruption within the agency.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Back by popular demand, our
friend Orrin McIntyre, host of The Oran McIntyre Show, here
with all the latest on the RFK confirmation, Tulsi confirmation
depending at least we speak to you now, Cash Patel confirmation. Aaron,
(00:34):
let me start with this, What is it about those
three that you think is most upsetting to the Democrats
who are doing what they can to complain about it,
but they can't stop it so far.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, each one of them obviously is going to have
their own nitpick that the left is going to focus on.
But the thing that unifies unifies all of these people
is that really, ultimately they are the enemy of the
organization that they are being in charge of, which is
exactly what you need when you have a hostile administrative state.
Trump's biggest problem first term was in his inability to
(01:12):
manage the executive branch itself. That they didn't respond, They
were often denying any of the orders that he put out.
They were pushing back in every way. And so this
time around he recognizes the importance of Senate confirmations, getting
people who are loyal to him and are not invested
in the system as it stands. And so whether you're
Tulsi Gabbard getting put on the no fly list, you're
(01:34):
RFK facing all of the pushback he did when it
came to the COVID vaccine and everything else, or your
cash battel, and you're making a personal war against the
corruption inside the FBI. Each one of these individuals knows
that the organization they're being put in charge of has
deep problems, and they are invested in solving those problems personally.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Why do they hate Tulsi Gabbard? I mean that seems
like a particularly weird one. I know she made it through,
but Democrats were all making a big thing of whether
she could do the job of d and I, first
of all, Clapper was the DNI and he is an
imbecile and a partisan hack. So it can't be that
hard just putting that out there. But what is it
(02:15):
about Tulci who ran for a Democrat nomination for the
presidency in twenty twenty that is so upsetting to the
Democrats just a few years later, Well, that itself.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Has to be upsetting. Right, there's nothing worse than an apostate,
somebody who has recognized the problems of your side and
highlights them at every opportunity. And she should be the
obvious candidate, right. She's female, she's strong, she's got military service,
she's all these things that the left tells us they
want in a woman in leadership, they want that kind
(02:47):
of representation. And yet when it's time to actually put
someone with all of those caveats in the office, all
of those different attributes in the office, turns out they
don't want them there at all, because they'll point out
things like old Telsea Gabbard, she talked about Ali said
or Mishar Aliside at some point, or she you know,
they say she's soft on Russia, she's an Asian agent
(03:10):
of Putin. The answer is really, ultimately, she's not on
board with the foreign policy establishment as it is now.
She's not very very she's not a big fan of
the intelligence community as is currently constituted. And that's ultimately
what they're going to push back against. Anyone who's working
for Trump is going to be the devil for them,
no matter what their prior positions were, But specifically with Gabbard.
(03:33):
It seems to be her willingness to talk to some
of the people that have been forbidden previously.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When it comes to RFK Junior, we'll get to cash
as well. I think that one's pretty clear. But when
it comes to RFK Junior specifically, do you think the
again they're animus to him. We can just put for
all of these it's Trump wants it, so they don't
want it, right, I know there's that that's not true
in every case. They all voted for Mark or Rubio,
for example, their senate colleague. But you know, for any
(04:00):
of these outsiders, Trump wants it. They want to post Trump. Okay,
that's baked in. But in terms of the ferocity of
the opposition that we have seen from particularly some Democrats, senators, commentators,
is it that RFK Junior was also a former Democrat
or is it that he was really among the early
(04:21):
ones to shatter the false god Fauci during COVID, Like,
how do you see their view of RFK Junior now,
because it strikes me as interesting, all of a sudden,
they're like big, They're all in favor of Big Pharma, right,
all of a sudden, they're like, how dare you question.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, they were always huge fans of big farmer right,
like that was the entire democratic pushes. We need to
make these people invincible. They need to have shields against
litigation in case their drug hurts people, which it does.
Like this is all stuff the left is on side with.
That's always the lie that the left is put forth
that they were somehow anti corporation, anti capital. That's not true.
They just wanted capital to agree with it. They wanted
(05:02):
woke capital, and once capital went woke, they were more
than happy to back it on whatever it was doing.
They hated capitalism minutes ago. But the menut capitalism is
stuffing their coffers, you know, making sure that they're candidates
get elected. They're willing to work all kinds of different
things into contracts for different places like Pfizer. But ultimately
I think that RFK does two things. One he shatters
(05:25):
kind of the JFK myth. Right, there's this kind of camelot.
This is the Democrats, this was the new society. It
got shot down when GfK and RFK were assassinated, and
he was the heir to this, And there's kind of
that part of it. And on top of that, yes,
they will focus on him and say, oh, well, he's
a science denier. I've already seen the different articles coming
(05:47):
out about how a science denier is now in charge
of the AHHS. But the truth is ultimately that obviously
Bauci made up a bunch of stuff. He's already admitted
that he made up a bunch of stuff, the distancing
whether or not masks would work for children, All of
these things were manufactured, and so the idea that he's
a science denier rather than someone who simply has a
(06:07):
basic level of skepticism is yeah, frankly false. Now, ultimately,
do I agree with everything RFK believes? Do I think
that every concern he has about our health is accurate?
I don't know. I don't know all of the different
areas in which he is focused. I know he's big
on health. He's big on making sure that we adjust
what's in food and vaccines and medicines and these kind
(06:29):
of things. But ultimately the important thing is that he's skeptical.
That he's walking into this department and he's looking at
each thing and saying does this belong here? I'm not
just going to do this on a autopilot just because
Obama or Biden's experts tell me this is what is
supposed to happen. I'm not going to automatically just parrot
that back to the president. Instead, I'm going to take
this case by case and really decide whether this should
(06:51):
be dismantled, disposed of, or whether it's actually necessary. And
that's exactly what they don't want, because again, the administrative
state is just one large leftist patronage network that we
like to call a government. Sometimes we're to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Come back and talk about cash here in just a second,
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eight eight IFCJ. If I had to pick or in.
I think that they should be most concerned about Cash,
I think, which is still as we talk up, you know,
he has not yet gotten through. I think he will
get through. But I know Cash a bid, and I
know what he's been through, and I know that he
knows what they know and what they've done in the
(08:11):
deep state. How do you view this one and what's
going to happen once he assuming he gets through confirmation,
which I think he will, like, why do they hate
him so much? We could just dive into it that way.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, I think you're more familiar with Cash than I am.
You can probably speak to that a little better. What
I do know is obviously the FBI is deeply corrupt.
We have a scenario in which an organization that is
supposed to protect Americans has spent the majority of its
influenced time and agents, focusing on things like surveilling Christians,
making sure we arrest people who protest against abortion clinics,
(08:47):
making sure that we haul you know, different parents and
who object to the digender and doctrination their schools out
and threaten them, send threatening letters to them. That's the
kind of FBI that has been off operating in the
United States during the Biden administration. They've obviously been targeting
political enemies of the Democratic Party. They have more or
(09:09):
less become a praetorian guard or the ruling elite in
the United States. And a guy like Cash Patel, who
has been through the Ringer, who understands the danger of
this organization and it's continued malice against Red America is
their worst nightmare because he knows exactly how they operate.
He knows where the weaknesses are, the corruption is. He's
going to get in there and ferret that out. And obviously,
(09:31):
you can talk about health services, these are very important.
Obviously these are critical institutions. But when the state police force,
when the federal police force is corrupt, that is something
that just spreads throughout the entirety of the culture that
poisons the entire civic experience for every citizen, and so
that is a critical thing that has to be fixed.
It has that ideology that corruption has to be pulled
(09:53):
out root and branch. And of course you want somebody
with a chip on the shoulder going in there, because
there's somebody who is not going to get sucked into
the system. Figure out how long they can stay. They
know how dangerous it is, they know the critical nature
of reforming it right.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, of course it's it's funny. I was watching Morning,
which I don't recommend or and I saw them complaining
about how Trump has gotten rid of some of these
inspector generals inside or inspectors general whatever, inside of these
various federal agencies. And they're saying, well, if you wanted
to root out corruption, why would you get rid of
(10:28):
the people who are supposed to find the corruption. It's like,
because they're not doing it right, because they've been wildly
unsuccessful at preventing a lot of stuff that I think
is just a matter of public public record now. So
to me, it seems quite clear that the old, the
old argument that somehow was able to persist for a
long time of the system. Will you know, the system
(10:50):
exists for important reasons as it does, and it will
take care of itself. Don't mess with it. I just
think that people reject that. Now, well, we've seen too much,
and the system doesn't fix itself, it doesn't have the
accountability necessary for improvement.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, there's the saying in engineering called the purpose of
a system is what it does, right, And when we
look at the different systems in the United States government,
we see over and over again they're labeled one thing,
but they were doing an entirely different thing. Right. The
Department of Homeland Security wasn't particularly interested in keeping our
homeland secure. The Department of Defense wasn't interested in defending Americans,
(11:26):
you know. The Border Patrol wasn't actually protecting the border,
not because they didn't want to, because it was being
made illegal for them by the Biden administration. Basically, all
of these institutions are named one thing, but what they
continue to do is another. And ultimately, if a system
continually produces one outcome, even though it's labeled and says
(11:46):
it's supposed to produce another, you have to assume that
the one it's producing is the one it's intended to produce.
So the Department of Education doesn't educate children and instead
just indoctrinates them in leftist ideology. Well, that's the actual
purpose of the institution. And again that's why it's so
important for these guys to come in and clean house.
They know the institution is sick, they know that no
(12:07):
one has been watching the watchmen, and they know so
that it's important to set a new standard. Which is
why it's so critical that all of these people who
are while they are familiar with what's going on, they
are people who are qualified to do what they are doing.
They also are hostile to the people who have been
doing it previously because those people have not actually been
(12:27):
doing it. They've been serving a different purpose. They've been
doing with the system actually wants to do instead of
what the system is supposed to do. And people like Tulsi,
people like Cash Hotel, they know their job is to
go in there and make that system do what it's
supposed to do, what it says on the label. But
that means ripping out all of the rot, and some
of these organizations, the rot is most of the organization.
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Speaker 1 (13:59):
Orin Thanks so much, man, great to talk to
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You, Thanks for having me
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Back by popular demand, our
friend Orrin McIntyre, host of The Oran McIntyre Show, here
with all the latest on the RFK confirmation, Tulsi confirmation
depending at least we speak to you now, Cash Patel confirmation. Aaron,
(00:34):
let me start with this, What is it about those
three that you think is most upsetting to the Democrats
who are doing what they can to complain about it,
but they can't stop it so far.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, each one of them obviously is going to have
their own nitpick that the left is going to focus on.
But the thing that unifies unifies all of these people
is that really, ultimately they are the enemy of the
organization that they are being in charge of, which is
exactly what you need when you have a hostile administrative state.
Trump's biggest problem first term was in his inability to
(01:12):
manage the executive branch itself. That they didn't respond, They
were often denying any of the orders that he put out.
They were pushing back in every way. And so this
time around he recognizes the importance of Senate confirmations, getting
people who are loyal to him and are not invested
in the system as it stands. And so whether you're
Tulsi Gabbard getting put on the no fly list, you're
(01:34):
RFK facing all of the pushback he did when it
came to the COVID vaccine and everything else, or your
cash battel, and you're making a personal war against the
corruption inside the FBI. Each one of these individuals knows
that the organization they're being put in charge of has
deep problems, and they are invested in solving those problems personally.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Why do they hate Tulsi Gabbard? I mean that seems
like a particularly weird one. I know she made it through,
but Democrats were all making a big thing of whether
she could do the job of d and I, first
of all, Clapper was the DNI and he is an
imbecile and a partisan hack. So it can't be that
hard just putting that out there. But what is it
(02:15):
about Tulci who ran for a Democrat nomination for the
presidency in twenty twenty that is so upsetting to the
Democrats just a few years later, Well, that itself.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Has to be upsetting. Right, there's nothing worse than an apostate,
somebody who has recognized the problems of your side and
highlights them at every opportunity. And she should be the
obvious candidate, right. She's female, she's strong, she's got military service,
she's all these things that the left tells us they
want in a woman in leadership, they want that kind
(02:47):
of representation. And yet when it's time to actually put
someone with all of those caveats in the office, all
of those different attributes in the office, turns out they
don't want them there at all, because they'll point out
things like old Telsea Gabbard, she talked about Ali said
or Mishar Aliside at some point, or she you know,
they say she's soft on Russia, she's an Asian agent
(03:10):
of Putin. The answer is really, ultimately, she's not on
board with the foreign policy establishment as it is now.
She's not very very she's not a big fan of
the intelligence community as is currently constituted. And that's ultimately
what they're going to push back against. Anyone who's working
for Trump is going to be the devil for them,
no matter what their prior positions were, But specifically with Gabbard.
(03:33):
It seems to be her willingness to talk to some
of the people that have been forbidden previously.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When it comes to RFK Junior, we'll get to cash
as well. I think that one's pretty clear. But when
it comes to RFK Junior specifically, do you think the
again they're animus to him. We can just put for
all of these it's Trump wants it, so they don't
want it, right, I know there's that that's not true
in every case. They all voted for Mark or Rubio,
for example, their senate colleague. But you know, for any
(04:00):
of these outsiders, Trump wants it. They want to post Trump. Okay,
that's baked in. But in terms of the ferocity of
the opposition that we have seen from particularly some Democrats, senators, commentators,
is it that RFK Junior was also a former Democrat
or is it that he was really among the early
(04:21):
ones to shatter the false god Fauci during COVID, Like,
how do you see their view of RFK Junior now,
because it strikes me as interesting, all of a sudden,
they're like big, They're all in favor of Big Pharma, right,
all of a sudden, they're like, how dare you question.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, they were always huge fans of big farmer right,
like that was the entire democratic pushes. We need to
make these people invincible. They need to have shields against
litigation in case their drug hurts people, which it does.
Like this is all stuff the left is on side with.
That's always the lie that the left is put forth
that they were somehow anti corporation, anti capital. That's not true.
They just wanted capital to agree with it. They wanted
(05:02):
woke capital, and once capital went woke, they were more
than happy to back it on whatever it was doing.
They hated capitalism minutes ago. But the menut capitalism is
stuffing their coffers, you know, making sure that they're candidates
get elected. They're willing to work all kinds of different
things into contracts for different places like Pfizer. But ultimately
I think that RFK does two things. One he shatters
(05:25):
kind of the JFK myth. Right, there's this kind of camelot.
This is the Democrats, this was the new society. It
got shot down when GfK and RFK were assassinated, and
he was the heir to this, And there's kind of
that part of it. And on top of that, yes,
they will focus on him and say, oh, well, he's
a science denier. I've already seen the different articles coming
(05:47):
out about how a science denier is now in charge
of the AHHS. But the truth is ultimately that obviously
Bauci made up a bunch of stuff. He's already admitted
that he made up a bunch of stuff, the distancing
whether or not masks would work for children, All of
these things were manufactured, and so the idea that he's
a science denier rather than someone who simply has a
(06:07):
basic level of skepticism is yeah, frankly false. Now, ultimately,
do I agree with everything RFK believes? Do I think
that every concern he has about our health is accurate?
I don't know. I don't know all of the different
areas in which he is focused. I know he's big
on health. He's big on making sure that we adjust
what's in food and vaccines and medicines and these kind
(06:29):
of things. But ultimately the important thing is that he's skeptical.
That he's walking into this department and he's looking at
each thing and saying does this belong here? I'm not
just going to do this on a autopilot just because
Obama or Biden's experts tell me this is what is
supposed to happen. I'm not going to automatically just parrot
that back to the president. Instead, I'm going to take
this case by case and really decide whether this should
(06:51):
be dismantled, disposed of, or whether it's actually necessary. And
that's exactly what they don't want, because again, the administrative
state is just one large leftist patronage network that we
like to call a government. Sometimes we're to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Come back and talk about cash here in just a second,
our sponsors the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. After
more than a year of war and terror on Israel,
is still a great demand for basic humanitarian aid, which
is where the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews comes in.
Your ongoing monthly gift of forty five dollars will provide
critically needed aid to communities in North and South parts
of Israel devastated by the ongoing war. Your generous donation
(07:26):
each month will help those in need. That includes evacuees
and refugees from war torn areas, first responders and volunteers,
wounded soldiers, elderly Holocaust survivors, families who have lost everything,
and so many more. You can provide hope during a
time of great uncertainty with your gift. Bless Israel and
her people by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That's all, one word,
support IFCJ dot org or call eight eight eight for
(07:50):
eight eight IFCJ. If I had to pick or in.
I think that they should be most concerned about Cash,
I think, which is still as we talk up, you know,
he has not yet gotten through. I think he will
get through. But I know Cash a bid, and I
know what he's been through, and I know that he
knows what they know and what they've done in the
(08:11):
deep state. How do you view this one and what's
going to happen once he assuming he gets through confirmation,
which I think he will, like, why do they hate
him so much? We could just dive into it that way.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, I think you're more familiar with Cash than I am.
You can probably speak to that a little better. What
I do know is obviously the FBI is deeply corrupt.
We have a scenario in which an organization that is
supposed to protect Americans has spent the majority of its
influenced time and agents, focusing on things like surveilling Christians,
making sure we arrest people who protest against abortion clinics,
(08:47):
making sure that we haul you know, different parents and
who object to the digender and doctrination their schools out
and threaten them, send threatening letters to them. That's the
kind of FBI that has been off operating in the
United States during the Biden administration. They've obviously been targeting
political enemies of the Democratic Party. They have more or
(09:09):
less become a praetorian guard or the ruling elite in
the United States. And a guy like Cash Patel, who
has been through the Ringer, who understands the danger of
this organization and it's continued malice against Red America is
their worst nightmare because he knows exactly how they operate.
He knows where the weaknesses are, the corruption is. He's
going to get in there and ferret that out. And obviously,
(09:31):
you can talk about health services, these are very important.
Obviously these are critical institutions. But when the state police force,
when the federal police force is corrupt, that is something
that just spreads throughout the entirety of the culture that
poisons the entire civic experience for every citizen, and so
that is a critical thing that has to be fixed.
It has that ideology that corruption has to be pulled
(09:53):
out root and branch. And of course you want somebody
with a chip on the shoulder going in there, because
there's somebody who is not going to get sucked into
the system. Figure out how long they can stay. They
know how dangerous it is, they know the critical nature
of reforming it right.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, of course it's it's funny. I was watching Morning,
which I don't recommend or and I saw them complaining
about how Trump has gotten rid of some of these
inspector generals inside or inspectors general whatever, inside of these
various federal agencies. And they're saying, well, if you wanted
to root out corruption, why would you get rid of
(10:28):
the people who are supposed to find the corruption. It's like,
because they're not doing it right, because they've been wildly
unsuccessful at preventing a lot of stuff that I think
is just a matter of public public record now. So
to me, it seems quite clear that the old, the
old argument that somehow was able to persist for a
long time of the system. Will you know, the system
(10:50):
exists for important reasons as it does, and it will
take care of itself. Don't mess with it. I just
think that people reject that. Now, well, we've seen too much,
and the system doesn't fix itself, it doesn't have the
accountability necessary for improvement.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, there's the saying in engineering called the purpose of
a system is what it does, right, And when we
look at the different systems in the United States government,
we see over and over again they're labeled one thing,
but they were doing an entirely different thing. Right. The
Department of Homeland Security wasn't particularly interested in keeping our
homeland secure. The Department of Defense wasn't interested in defending Americans,
(11:26):
you know. The Border Patrol wasn't actually protecting the border,
not because they didn't want to, because it was being
made illegal for them by the Biden administration. Basically, all
of these institutions are named one thing, but what they
continue to do is another. And ultimately, if a system
continually produces one outcome, even though it's labeled and says
(11:46):
it's supposed to produce another, you have to assume that
the one it's producing is the one it's intended to produce.
So the Department of Education doesn't educate children and instead
just indoctrinates them in leftist ideology. Well, that's the actual
purpose of the institution. And again that's why it's so
important for these guys to come in and clean house.
They know the institution is sick, they know that no
(12:07):
one has been watching the watchmen, and they know so
that it's important to set a new standard. Which is
why it's so critical that all of these people who
are while they are familiar with what's going on, they
are people who are qualified to do what they are doing.
They also are hostile to the people who have been
doing it previously because those people have not actually been
(12:27):
doing it. They've been serving a different purpose. They've been
doing with the system actually wants to do instead of
what the system is supposed to do. And people like Tulsi,
people like Cash Hotel, they know their job is to
go in there and make that system do what it's
supposed to do, what it says on the label. But
that means ripping out all of the rot, and some
of these organizations, the rot is most of the organization.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I want to tell everybody with Barkree Arsenal for a second,
it's my favorite new manufacturer of firearms based in North Carolina,
all American. They are all about guns. They've got great rifles, pistols.
I've got my BC fifteen, I've got my Nomula meter
Grizzly pistol, which I was just at out the range
with last weekend. Very accurate, very comfortable in your hands, durable, lightweight,
(13:10):
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(13:32):
That's Barcreek arsenal dot com, slash buck take ten percent
off your order with my first name Buck as your
promo code. Orin you're at where should people go to
listen to the oron McIntyre show, which is very excellent.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, of course it's over on the Blaze. You can
watch me on Blaze TV. It's on all of your
favorite podcast platforms. It broadcasts on YouTube and Rumble, and
of course you can find me on Twitter, substack everything,
under Orn McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Orin Thanks so much, man, great to talk to
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You, Thanks for having me
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