March 15, 2024 • 41 mins
2 Pros and a Cup of Joe featuring LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox step in for Colin
They talk about the Vikings acquiring an additional first round pick and why it appears they are preparing to make a big move to find a replacement for Kirk Cousins
They also react to major breaking news with 3-time Defensive Player of the Year and Super Bowl champion Aaron Donald announcing his retirement from the NFL
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey there, welcome into the Herd Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio.
It is LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx with you
filling in for calling here on a Friday. We will
be taking you all the way up until three pm
Eastern time, noon Pacific, and we've got all sorts of
fun stuff and conversation here. Now we normally we've done
(00:51):
this show once before. You normally can hear us between
the I mean awake and in the middle of the
day hours of three to six am time six to
nine am Eastern Time, and so we were going to
take that show on the road here in this time slot.
So it does feel a little bit different than than
what we've normally done. Traffic, daylight, all sorts of stuff
(01:11):
that we're.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Not used to.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Sounds awesome, ain't that right? Bar You sound very professional.
Where where is this when we do two pros and
talk at our regular hour?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You you really put your best foot forward here, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Did you hear that? Q?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I did?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, welcome to the show. This is mean listen, this
is how it's done. This is a professional broadcaster here.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
By the way, LaVar arringtag'e pissed off of me? If
we want to go buy the scene we are what
he pissed off about it?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, because I thought we were a team.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
And then when we do the Herd, it's like you
get brand new because you're sitting in obviously, uh the
herd himself. You know, kylin C you're in his seat
right now, in your seat. But you know you has
that to me like you're your your cow herd today.
So what do you mean it's fine? Well, you know
the last time we did, when we first did the show,
before you cracked the mic and did such an awesome job. Uh,
(02:00):
you waited for me, you know, you you and Lee
you were downstairs. You were waiting for me. We came
up together as as a team, as a group. Right,
so wait, Lee wasn't there, Well Lee's not even here? No, right,
So there's there's that, there's the subtraction of Lee being
present and being available today. And I'm sitting in the
courtyard like I went into the building first, you know,
(02:20):
said hey to everybody, this, that and the other, and uh,
you know, you know the first floor building, you know
Q where we do our radio show, you know where
you know it's commoners.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
All way down below. Yeah, oh yeah. And and then I.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Think what my conclusion was when I saw how Jonas
was sitting down and everybody was around him when I
got to the studio, was that Jonas felt, you know,
as though he's arrived and and and literally.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Was sitting in the seat.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
They were doing the specs, they were doing his makeup,
all kinds of different things. Uh, you know, Elijah was,
you know, helping out and and you know, and I
was down there's waiting by myself.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Listen, I just have one request. Could you refer to
me at my Twitter handle at d Jonas Knocks You
wouldn't mind that, that would be appreciate. Look, I thought
you knew we were just coming up to the fifth floor.
I didn't know there's a team effort.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I'm downstairs. You saw my text message on the thread
right you Like, I'm downstairs, like are we a team?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Like?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Where's everybody at?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Are we not doing what we do always? Like when
we come here, this, that and the other.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
He upstairs essay like, oh all right, okay, all.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Right, you kind of flexed on your looks got there
before you.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, well but he wasn't here before me. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
That's you know, no, you never investigation. You never beat
me here, never do you. No one ever gets here earlier.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'm just saying, you know, listen, Well, I would like
to apologize.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I had time to go handle my business, wash my hands,
make something to drink, all kinds of stuff, and then
went outside. And because I didn't see y'all in the building,
then I went outside and I had time to actually
sit in the courtyard. And because I know what time
you get here and you can't come, you.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Have to understand too.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
So those out there listening, LeVar is night and day
different when he's the night walker versus the day walk.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, that's very true.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
When he's the night walker, you pull up and I said,
you'll see him sitting in his car. He's jamming out,
that's right, he's banging to some sort of music.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
You do not want to try to even attempt to
open that car door. And now during the day he's
as friendly as can be. You know, you can say hi,
give him a huge unsolicited just walk up to him.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Give them a hut yea that is Teddy Bear.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, there you go. That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, this is what I would recommend for anybody that
runs into LeVar Arrington, potentially at the Mule.
Speaker 8 (04:37):
Who knows I was at the Mule yesterday. I was there,
I had a island, you know, just buy him a
LeVar island. I'll probably go back today say it was
on me, and that way we could make amends for
what happened a little bit up here, a little miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's the least we could do. So you're apologizing our four.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Our four will be the apology, the full apology. It'll
be written out and there will be a stay.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
There will be some time during this first hour or
second hour, third hour.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'm willa whoop your you know what? Damn Can I
say that? Can I say that on the herd? I
mean maybe not?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
What if it was our show? You're getting double yeah? Okay,
damn right, I'm power.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Drives suplex you well, listen to Will Clutch You you
know who got suplexed. Uh, the Minnesota Vikings got supplexed
by Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And if you need evidence, maybe, if you mean evidence
that maybe they got that tilted world. Ddt off the
top rope from Kirk Cousins as he went on his
way to the Atlanta Falcons. The Minnesota Vikings have made
a move. Earlier today, it was announced they have acquired
the Houston Texans first round draft for draft pick on Friday.
Speaker 9 (05:47):
UH.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
In the deal, the Texans acquired the number twenty three
pick along with the seventh round pick, number two thirty
two overall, and the Texans would receive the Vikings second
round pick, their sixth round pick, and their second round
pick in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So the feeling they stack in chips.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, and it does feel like maybe there's a potential
move up in the draft coming for the Minnesota Vikings,
who might have a little bit of a macover Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Remorse. Here is a remorse or is it revenge? Is
it vengefulness?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
I don't know that it's vengefulness.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I think this is the perspective of the Minnesota Vikings
right now. The thirteen wins they had two seasons ago.
I think they all felt like they overachieved over they
nine to zero or something in one score games. It
was some ridiculous stat that you just you're not gonna
be able to replicate that consistently. And they won the division,
they get the thirteen wins, they get to the playoffs,
and I think they kind of see the roster and
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their team and go, yeah, we're not quite there, and
we're gonna have to make some cap decisions, and we're
gonna have to figure out Kirk, and we're gonna have
to figure out extending justin Jefferson. So now they find
themselves in the position where they've made You know, if
you look at their free agencies thus far, you know
everyone's gonna grade your free agency.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's almost like the first round of a draft.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
You could have a phenomenal draft class, a phenomenal draft class,
yet everyone's gonna look at the first round pick, and
so depending on how that works out, that's largely gonna
be how people view that that draft class. And that's
almost how it is in a free agency. Like the
second they lost Kirk cousins to Atlanta. Atlanta's the winner,
Minnesota is the loser. Meanwhile, they've been subtly slowly trying
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to build back up this roster with a bunch of
veterans who, you know, maybe aren't the top end market guys,
but they're also not paying them top end market money.
Like Jonathan Grenard's a young budding star off the edge.
They signed out of Houston. You know, Andrew Van Ginkle
put some really good football for the Miami Dolphins. You know,
he got signed there in free agency as an outside linebacker.
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Jerry Tillery has played some good football. Trent Sherfield's not
a number one, but they don't need a number one.
They've got basically two number ones, and Justin Jefferson and
Jordan Addison, who are both very capable. They did a
number three and that's what they got. Aaron Jones is
a very capable running back, you know, a little bit
up there in age, but still so. With this trade,
they now have the ammunition to get from their number
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eleven overall pick and package that twenty third overall pick
and maybe one oh eight to jump up to.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I think it's got to be number four.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
I think if you want to assure yourself the quarterback
that's after Caleb Williams and then most likely Drake Bay
and Jaden Daniels. You have to go to number four.
You know where Arizona is at. That's the only way
it works. Otherwise, you know, you run the risk of
maybe the New York Giants at six, or someone else
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trades up ahead of you if you get a five
with the Chargers and they trade back, of leapfrogging you
with the Arizona Cardinals being there for they really don't
need a quarterback. They've got Murray. They traded for Desmond Ridder,
which we can get into, but largely right now, I
actually think the Vikings have found a way of making
up four what looked like a dis and they've not
positioned themselves get their future quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I think it still looks like a disaster if you
asked me, that's just my my take on it.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I think everything you said was very eloquently put, very
well placed and positioned as only you can do. You
have been to all the listeners out there that may
not listen to our show regularly. Uh Q has been
on fire on on his calls and and his uh
you know, and analysis of a don't be a hater
his it's been he he called Mike Evans and and
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he called the the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
With Kirk Cousins, he did call them both stolen from
my notes.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I mean, if we're going to be clear, I mean again,
I know that that's the mood that you're in by you.
This is this is where he goes with adience. It's
his show to this new audience. And and we're just
assisting him to you. So I understand where Jonas is
at and I support you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Just it's new people to tell a lie to Just
don't't believe, Just.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Don't forget about us when the people that actually buy
you to your rhetoric decide to do something like boost
you to a show like it's the Jonas. Just don't
forget about you know, I don't know about you, QB.
I mean, just don't forget about me. You know, I'll
you know, I'll be your beagle juice.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Anyway, I look at this scenario with Kirk Cousins and
I say, you left a team that was maybe they
didn't show you they were willing to do what you
wanted them to do initially, But it's negotiating, it's it's
it's playing your hand, it's it's kind of you're going
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to follow our process and do it our way and
hope that it works out for us. And it did not.
I don't think unless you get Caleb Williams in this draft,
I think it's hard. I believe it's hard to sell
any other quarterback in losing the most coveted free agent,
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and in this year's class of free agent's at that position,
I think it's hard to make the sale that you're
gonna be a better team moving forward and you just
let Kirk Cousins go for this guy.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Phil, I am with you on this, like that sentiment.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I'm not saying that they're gonna be a better team
at least not even in the short term, or that
this is even gonna work out. I'm just saying early
on early indication, they really weren't an active player. Your
two biggest free agents, Kirk Cousins Daniel Hunter, they didn't
get either back. Yeah, Right, Daniel ends up going to Houston, Right,
Cousins goes to Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
You didn't get either back.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
I just feel like they've done a decent job of saying, look,
if we're not gonna pay for both those guys who
got paid more average annual salary per year, then let's
go ahead and say we're gonna bring in a bridge
quarterback and Sam Darnold. We're gonna get put ourselves in
a position to go take a first round quarterback that
we feel really good about.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
We're gonna bring in.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
A guy with upside off of the edge of Jonathan Grenard.
We're gonna bring another guy in Van Geegl who's young,
and let's see what Brian Flores can do with this group.
I mean, the one thing I'll say, and I don't
want this to take away from any production that anyone
had last year in Minnesota's fight the Vikings defense, because
they were vastly improved. A lot of that, to me,
had to do with Brian forest scheme. Yes, he puts
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so many bodies up around the line of scrimmage. It's
a fire drill at the snap of the football for
the offensive line or the offense to figure out who's
coming who's not. And so I'm not saying like any
like everyone's gonna plug in and play half success, but
I think he makes it easier to find those one
to one matchups for him. And that's that's why I'm
kind of betting more on these guys will.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Be able to hold their own I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
But I'm with you, like, no, there's no way you
could sit there and say in twenty twenty four the
Viking is going to be better without Kirk Cousins as
their quarterback. I think if you're betting between Minnesota success
and Atlanta, you would say Atlanta's probably gonna have a
greater likelihood of getting the playoffs and making a run.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
But to your point, they are They are entire terms
of personnel wise, not inferior. They're not, and I mean
their receiving cores. If you can do something that keeps
Justin Jefferson happy and motivated.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, but by the way, the whole, the whole is
Justin Jefferson on the trade block. Stop they're not trading
him yet, Like he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Can I give you some insight intel? All right?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
You know when you get the call game, LaVar. You
know this because you call games like you talk to
the coaches.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
All right.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I can't like understate.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
The or oversees me overstate the importance of Justin Jefferson
to Kevin O'Connell. Everything they do during the week, they
have like multiple versions of their game plan and it's
all predicated on how teams play Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
That's how important they feel like he is.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
They feel like he's one of the top, maybe the
best player at his position, but also in the league.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
And when when I.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Talked to them earlier this past season, I got the
sense that they would They knew that there might be
a divide with Kirk Cousins and that you might not
get him back. They like that was kind of out there.
They thought they had a good relationship. Maybe he come back,
maybe not. But Justin Jefferson is the one I think
they're most concerned with making sure he's in Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
For the long term. And I think these.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Moves are showcasing the fact that they're serious about finding
someone to build with him over the course of the
next few years. Granted, maybe a rookie, but they're they're
focused on finding someone to fill that void.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah, well listen, speaking and gambling. If you wanted to
and you were in the mood your life, you see
big don hit us up. Don't don't be playing around
what happened. Don't be messing around you don't you don't done?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
He said Big the Eagles, Don Sandro, the Big Don
the don like six shirts deep. Yeah right, yeah, don't
be don't be messing with me. Don't be messing around.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, which, well you know he he you know he
hit Jonas. I don't be leave him in the courtyard
like that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And Anny my first name was under case underca just
a lowercase jay everything like totally my name was capitalized,
both the L and the D.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, not me. You better pay.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Attention, definitely now gambling, by the way, before the before
the the Vikings trade, or before Kirk Cousins left Minnesota
to go to Atlanta, uh, the Vikings were a plus
three thirty to draft JJ McCarthy. It dipped down to
a plus one fifty earlier this week, and now we're
at even money following the trade. So JJ McCarthy, according
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to DraftKings most likely to go to the Minnesota Vikings
and even money right now. So there's that for you.
It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe filling in
for college mean Varrington, No, it's still Friday. We're still efforting,
still efforting Friday. It is a football Friday, so we're
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still efforting that it is LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you are coming up. Hello, we have got
major breaking news in the world of sports, one of
the all time greats calling it a career. We'll tell
you who that is. That's next.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 3 (16:24):
It is The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up in
a little over twenty minutes from now, We're going to
tell you about some respect being shown to a quarterback
that some people might find a little bit surprising.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We'll get into that for you again a little over
twenty minutes from now, But we did talk about this
quickly before we went to the break, some breaking news
in the NFL, and it just came down a short
time ago that one of the all time greats of
this era and any era, Aaron Dom, has announced his
retirement from the NFL. Ten time Pro Bowler, eight time
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All Pro Super Bowl Championship, only thirty two years old,
going to be thirty three in a couple of months,
well one two representative, and yeah, he's he's going to
be on his way to Can't Ohio and be a
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
So Hills, Pennhills is finest.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He's kind of been poking around at this for a
couple of years now and some people thought, well, he's
just trying to be the highest paid defensive tackle in
the league and he's just trying to do this and that.
But now it's official and he's gone. He doesn't strike
me as somebody who's going to come back out of retirement.
This seems like that's going to be it for Aaron
Donald and he's off to He's got a bunch of money,
he's got all the credentials. He's going to be and
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can't know Hio in five years from now. Incredible career.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I think there's a case to be made too.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
And LeVar, you might not like it when I say it,
but it being one of the greatest defenders all time,
maybe the greatest. Look I know, but hear me out
all right, hear me out. He stepped into the league
a Pro bowler, he was Defensive Rookie of the Year.
From that point, moving forward from Saint Louis to his
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time in LA, all the way through his career, he's
essentially been a perennial Pro bowler and an All Pro
first team. I mean, there's only been the exception of
twenty twenty two where he missed time, but I believe
he's still made the Pro Bowl. That you're only playing
eleven games, I think you could make the case as
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an interior defensive tackle too, and the way he's impacted
the game with teams understanding the importance, you know, not
so much just of having pressure off the edge, but
a dominant interior defensive tackle. He's got a Super Bowl
to go along with it, but I think you could
make that case. He said that successful of a career.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I don't want to take away from from the announcement.
You know, congratulations and is an order for him and
also just a brilliant career, brilliant player. It's interesting because
for him to be so undersized, it's guys like Aaron
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Donald and Steve Smith, those type of guys. Drew Brees.
It's like these guys have been the greats of greats
and are tremendously undersized, have been looked at and undervalued
just because they don't fit a prototypical type of size,
which interestingly enough, Warren Sapp isn't much taller or much
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bigger than Aaron Donald and size and measurement. But to me,
hands down, those are in my estimation, the most dominant
to have ever done it at their position. And as
far as Aaron Donald his versatility, I think very few
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I throw JJ Watt in that conversation with Aaron Donald
in terms of the versatility and how they can be.
He is impactful and effective along that defensive front. But
until a guy is is actually the NFL most valuable
player as a defender and has had the impact on
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the game from all angles in the way that that
they have and has super Bowls to go on their resume,
has multiple Defensive Players of the Year on their resume,
I just can't go.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I can't rock against Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor is, Lawrence
Taylor is possibly the greatest football player of all time,
let alone defensive. So I'm gonna say I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Not gonna argue that.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
The only thing I'd say is Aaron Donald's production in
an era where as a defensive tackle too, one hundred
and eleven sacks as a defensive tackle and the majority.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Of his career.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Hey, listen, I'm not gonna fight you because he's from
where I'm from the thing from where my family.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
This award has gotten almost impossible for a defensive player
to win now.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It was impossible then.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Back then it was easier in the sense you have
more running backs winning it now.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He hear me out, hear me out.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
We looked at this year's MVP and we give it
to Lamar Jackson, which you can make the case he
was deserving statistically speaking, though, like we could have made
the case for a running back, but that almost never
happens anymore. It's almost exclusively now a quarterback award. I agree,
and I'm saying, back then, you saw a bit more
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of a variety, at least of it being to a
running back, maybe a defensive player.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Stop quarter back, et cetera, maybe a different offensive player
on but a defender to get the MVP award of
the entire league is unheard of.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Aaron.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Aaron Donald never had a down year, like the one
year you look at his numbers and goes, well, why
did ticket dip? He was dealing with the injury and
that was last year. But when he was there and
playing like, there was never a down here. Let's put
it to Let me put it to you this way.
We're sitting here debating greatest of all time. We're not debating,
you know what I mean, like, oh, this is quite
the accomplishment, quite the career.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Quite.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I mean, Aaron Donald is every bit of what people
think he is.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
It's like the Jordan Lebron debate, like who gives him crap?
Like if you honestly who cares?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
If you're debating Lebron James to Michael Jordan, you've won.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It's like arguing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's like arguing who's got the biggest house behind the
gated community? Who cares? Like you're both behind the gates,
but both want in life.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
There could be a lot of things that are not
good about you and being in that home. I'm telling you,
when you look at everything that's good about when you
had these type of conversations, and I'll say this off
the field where some and in some cases now you
can make the debate, and now you just took me
down a dark road.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Here's the only reason why I bring this up.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
It's the only reason I bring up the timing of
it and how different today's game is is because as
much as you're you know lotting, Lawrence Taylor, he's the MVP.
Mark Mosley was a kicker and won it in nineteen
eighty two TRU. And also you also had Alan Paige
win it in nineteen seventy one for the Vikings.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
And you had a bigger run of running.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Backs between Walter Payton, Roll Campbell through the years, Marcus
Allen obviously since basically two thousand, right like you had
Marshall Fulk in two.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thousand win it amazing.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
After that Lt Shawn Alexander. Since then, it's been all quarterbacks. Yeah,
I mean AP won at one year in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
It's just it's looks.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
I want to look at the voting too, through the years,
because I think that's the other thing is I think
he was a lot closer winning some years than people realize.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
So Donald was defensive player the year. Obviously, we mentioned
the three times top two or he finished top three.
He finished top like he finished every year he was
in the NFL minus the first In the last couple
of years he was a top five defensive Player of
the year, and you could argue you should have won
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it every year, as we've laid out, But it's almost
like one of those things to wear out of boredom.
You gave it to somebody else, you know, Yeah, we're
tired of this guy always winning it, so let's go
ahead and give it to somebody else.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
When you talk about double teams and need I say
triple teams and need I say quadruple team, Yes, if
you watch film of Aaron Donald, there are times during
the game where he is doubled, tripled and quadrupled four
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men trying to block one guy during the course of
one play.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
He had twenty and a half sacks at a sixteen
game season as an interior as.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
An interior line.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I mean, is that is as phenomenal as it gets
for a player as an interior line.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
By the way, yeah, he's.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
A beast if we're being real too. He's undersize for
his position, yeah, at six pounds, Like I remember him
coming into the league, that was the knock. People looked
at him as a first round talent, but They're like, Ah,
can he hand up? You know, can he stand up?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Up?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Can he hold up? Can he hold up at the
point of attack? Is he stout enough? I think he
answered the doubters that were out there right out.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Of the gate.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
What's kind of funny. You know, his off season programs
consisted of him working out. His trainer taught him how
to do self defense, like they would use rubber knives
and stuff like that. Oh and so his his training,
I mean something like that, something like that. So basically
my man was up in there like Bruce Lee. He
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up in there breaking fingers, grabbing thumbs, hitting touch points,
pressure points like it was Islan Temple and cats like Dan,
I've been in that.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm gonna call a Pro Football Reference or if Pro
Football Focus wants to get on this, could somebody do
a deep dive and find me how many games Aaron
Donald was involved in an altercation, Like he had some
sort of an altercation where there was a face mask
grab or something that would be considered assault off the
football field. Because this seemed like every game that guy
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had a problem, Like remember the fight at practice, like
it would just turned into a giant brawl. He grabs
somebody's helmet and threw it on the ground. That was
a violent dude when he played football.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
You talking about Aaron Donald.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, we took a whole segment to talk about how
great he is. And you know what, it's not even enough.
Somebody's sitting somewhere right now, like, oh, they're talking about
Aaron Donald for the entire segment. You know what, it
is well deserved.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
He's a top three to five defensive player of.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Oil Desert and left this game much better than what
he found it. Yes, listen, I would have loved have
had a career where my impact on the game left
this game a much better game, knowingly by those who
spectated it, knowingly that it left the game better than
what it was when I left. There's only a handful
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of guys that get to take that and boast about
it if they prefer to, and Aaron Donald is one
of those guys. So we wanted a brilliant career.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
We could play this game since people want to, Uh,
the law office is a bitch and monor in here
we go. Clippers beat the Bulls one twenty six, one
eleven last night.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That'll cover our tracks there's your there's your your NBA
update clips City will play that game too, but nonetheless
just one of the one of the all time grades.
Aaron Donald calling it a career again, thirty two years old,
all the credentials in the world. So now that Hall
of Fame class in five years from now is going
to have Jason Kelsey and Aaron Donald. So the inside
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of the Lion is well represented in can't know how
both sides. Now, if you're the Rams, how much do
you think less need? And Sean m bigh tried to
convince him to come back for another year.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
They're probably still trying.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Wonder too. I kind of wonder too if, like, you know,
if he is really retired.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh, I think he's done. He's at this for so long,
I know.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
And he's made a ton of money throughout the course
of his career, so he's he's financially set. I just
you never know, you know, it's I always say this,
it's easy. I think for a lot of players who
do retire to make the announcement.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Now it becomes.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Really really hard to live with what life is after football.
Once you get through the end of training camp and
you see the games and the excitement and everything else.
That's that's what you did, That's what all your sacrifice
was for. And and once you get to that point,
because he's a player that no one's going to bring
in and be like, oh, hey, we need you go
to go to training camp, They're they're gonna plug him
in and they're gonna let him go and let him play.
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And that's a guy that if you were a team
trying to make a Super Bowl run and you needed
someone in there, I would be knocking on his door
every day and making sure that he truly wants to
be retired. If we're one of those teams that's on
a playoff run a chance to go win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
I just think it's the preparation and the wear and
tears the reason why he probably chose to step away.
I mean, the amount of a beating that he's taking
during the course of years. Like sure he's dished it out,
but I can't even imagine the pain that his body
feels dealing with that. And then the preparation, like you said,
going into it someone of his size and what he's
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able to do at the level that he doesn't. I
can't imagine how much like we've seen. I've seen his workouts,
I've seen his workout film, but I'm sure there's a
lot of other things that I haven't seen. There's a
lot of things that we haven't seen that he has
to do in order for his body to be what
it needs to be. And I just wonder if he's
in his mind, Like listen, I don't want to be
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one of those guys that you know.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I know.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I knew Deacon Jones, like he's an alumni in mine
for Washington, and I used to see him around and
and guys who who were amazing and did certain things,
their bodies just gave up on them. Man at a
certain point time. You've seen guys in wheelchairs and stuff
like that and they're kind of not coherent. I just
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wonder if he's one of those guys. And I don't
know him very well, but I do know some people
who like Todd him and coached him when he was
younger and have known him through the years, and he
just seems like he's one of those cerebral guys, like
he's super smart, he's intelligent about himself, his business, his
body and all those things. I don't know that he
would be using this as as an opportunity to just
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sit down and wait for somebody to come get them.
I think in his mind, I can't keep doing what
I'm doing to play at the level I want to
play at, and this might be the perfect time to
get off. It just seems like this might that might
be what it is.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But in this case, I'm saying he doesn't have to
do it for as long.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You guys want to pocket watch a little here. I
love the pocket watch from time to tell us that
career earnings for Aaron Donald's, Oh pocket watch.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I can't play a part that's already now, Oh, come on,
already looked well some of us, some of Stuart research.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
With about that? All right?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know, take that Jonas bar how about you think
he's messed already out there?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
One hundred and fifty plus damn.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
One hundred and fifty seven million dollars in change for
Aaron Donald. He was set to make what thirty five
million this upcoming year, so could have put him at
a clean one ninety two and change at the end
of his contract.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
But he's out.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
So in theory, at the least, he's probably at what.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Fifty fifty away?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
After everything, I'm pretty sure he lives in Hidden Hills
in out here in southern California. A little pricey out there,
you know. I mean, I'm just saying, and you're given
up forty nine percent. I get, I mean, I get
that all.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I mean, I give some golfers who said that that
they actually give up.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
More than that, But I get heartburn and reflux.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I had you give everyone Aaron Donald's addressed to.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, yes, in case someone wants to try to come on.
Everybody knows he lives in Hidden Hills.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
All right.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
I didn't know, but some of us do our research.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And so Jonas is going to hit you with that that.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
That's an issue out there or just around the country.
I mean, didn't didn't call and have an issue with
that somewhere it was vacation or something. Yeah, there is
an issue, there's something popular like that. But I mean,
I will say this to your defense, Jonas. They do
tours and and I am guilty. I've taken family members
who have come to visit.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Have you gone to Hidden Hills?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Well, I've gone on the tour. Really where you get
on the get in there, you go.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
You see something.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Leonardo DiCaprio's mom would come out with her.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
What is the what you do?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What you do?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Squore bottle? No, when you spray your yard with it?
What is it? Yeah? Thank you, thank you, c.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Sorry you said no to the score bottle. I just
thought the next step up would have been an oozy
her hose.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She pulls out her hose, California. She'd be trying to
those people down when they get too close to.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
The property, means.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Praying, hollering out obscenities. We're just gonna go down this
road right now. We're not going to go any closer.
Is there pumping her fist?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh yeah, why, Oh my god. It's a new tour.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's Universal Studios.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
That's the new studio tour, Lardo's mom. It is a congratulations.
Hell of a career.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
If this is it for Aaron Donald, who announced a
short time ago he is retiring from the NFL. Uh
just a great career, one of the all time greats
in the National Football League. It is the var Arrington
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you filling in for Calling
on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, and we're
going to tell you about a sign of respect for
one quarterback in the NFL that you might find a
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 5 (33:54):
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Speaker 3 (34:45):
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Speaker 4 (35:21):
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Speaker 2 (35:23):
This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Hell yeah, Ryan Music, Come on right, come on, come on,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Good to be with you, hey, week morning.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's all damn right, all right, come on music.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
We got Jordan Love entering his second year as the
starter with the Packers after a strong finish to the
last season. In fact, it might have been so strong
he's now drawing players to the Packers in free agency.
Their new safety Xavier McKinney, said Love was definitely a
part of his decision to choose Green Bay This.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Is a competitive league, and you need a lead quarterback
to be able to even have a chance. And I
believe that.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You know, he is a league quarterback.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Obviously, I've played against him, I've watched him play, and
I think he's really good.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
And Skuy's in limit for him.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Some high praise I love there for him. Must not
have seen that last throw.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
The game, don't.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I don't want to bust in one's bubble, but they've
signed with two guys in a free agency.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No, I'm just saying, it's just like a bit.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
I don't want to bust it against bubble, but I'm
gonna just swap this down, yeah right away.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
I know.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I'm just saying, like Josh Jacobs, that's a good signing,
right Yester.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
They moved off Aaron Jones and Xavier McKinnie clearly was
motivated by Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
What other players did they recruit there doing better?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Doubt? I mean they listen, you know they got rid
of David bat He's gone. You know, they've made some
changes that are that's the other side of well, that's
not a good thing. Well, I'm just saying, maybe he
looks at that as as an upgrade. I personally don't,
but maybe he looks at as an upgrade. Haven't you
ever heard of addition by subtraction? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
If that of the blind side left tackle.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean, look, I know that Jordan Love showed a
lot of promise, especially down the stretch, but you know
a couple of those throws in the Niners you came
in hot. I'm just uh, hey, good morning to you too, Brady.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Right, well, why is everyone I'm not a man and
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, put in your coffee, que.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
By the way, Uh, the Giants did win that game,
by the way against the Packers four twenty two.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I mean, and that's not saying much.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, but that yards, one touchdown, one pick that would
have gone the other way had McKinney been on the
other side, yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Or had it been later What part of the season?
Was it later in the season?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It actually was later in the season, was it? Yeah?
It was fourteen?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Well there you go. Never mind.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
There's one I tried to sorry it was Tommy d
Was Tommy that game? In that game?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Tommy Cutlitz. Was he in that game?
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That?
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I think what's more interesting is the fact that it's
the Packers. It's free agency. They'd never do anything in freeze.
They just don't they They're never big spenders in free agency.
They did it like one year Rogers was there.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, because you're selling everybody on all the night life there.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, there's not. I mean, that's a good point. That's
super super cellible if.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You want to be honest, ask Andrew Bryant.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
That's why they put a lot of workout bonuses in
the contracts for the green Bay players, so they come
up here in the off season and it makes them
the incentive to workout.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's like, hey, we're a little low on strip clubs,
but you know what, here's the workout bonus.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Please come to green Bay. That makes sense. I mean
I heard they had strip club called the Big Moose.
All right, did you guys see this?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
By the way, Hey, we ain't knowing our time slot.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So I finished it. But thank you for I'm a relaxed.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Im a relaxed But there was more to it. There
is add a blank to the right after Moose. All right,
all right, all right, yeah, let's keep going.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
All right.
Speaker 10 (38:55):
Dion Sanders has brought Colorado back into the mainstream after
only one season with the Buffalo's huge persona has helped
land some of the top recruits and try and rebuild
that program. In some surprising news today from USA Today
reporting in the fourteen months since Sanders has took the
head job, he has not made a single has not
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made a single off campus visit to recruits, no home visits,
Nothing's what awesome. When asked for comment, the university did
confirm this was true. Okay, so some other data from
USA Today to put this into context. Jim Harbaugh made
one hundred and forty five visits between December first and
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him leaving for the Chargers. Steve Sarkisian with Texas has
made one hundred and twenty eight visits in the same timeframe.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I mean, you see, like this is high praise for
Venmo and home to go anywhere and sense of cash home.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Visit meaning going to the schools as well, Like he
hasn't gone any school the way that they.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Were clear on.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Yeah, no off campus visits, no home visits, nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Dang.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Well, here's the thing is, he doesn't need to. It's
because he's they know where to find him. But also
he's recruiting the transfer portal. He's not recruiting high school
players at least not that much. He's got Jordan Seeden,
who was a big recruit from this past year at tackle.
But if you actually look where their rank, they're dead
last in the Big twelve based on the twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Four rankings, their composite ranking.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
If you mix in all of it, it's really bad.
But they're transfer rankings top ten. So obviously the guys
who have played, they've already played college football. They're more
interested in coming to Boulder and visiting with him and
sing it than he is of necessarily going to their house.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
All I'm gonna say is man Man just broke the
school record in the one hundred meters yesterday. He ran a
ten seven man Man, you better bring your ass to
see him.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You want him to come to Boulder.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Oh, you wouldn't send man Man to Boulder to without
him to say, wow, you better come.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Sing Well, you can prime know each other, you've played together.
So that's true, and they won of the first teams.
He's not hard to find though, Yeah, you ain't hard
to one. Now that that is his his slogan. That
is one of them. You better I better find you
at Charter Oak High School in Covina, California.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
And your house is so big you just land the practice.
Yet right home home.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Visits doesn't mean coming to their house. That means come
meet us, meet them.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
At the school, your friends.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He would, and I would. I would cook him some barbecue.
I'm making some food. Yeah, you know, Yeah, we sit
down talk.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Your house have many bathrooms? Is Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
That was I got about. I got a few, but
not as many as Yeah, what's the crab close account?
I got a few. Don't worry. Let's
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So it does feel a little bit different than than
what we've normally done. Traffic, daylight, all sorts of stuff
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
Not used to.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Sounds awesome, ain't that right? Bar You sound very professional.
Where where is this when we do two pros and
talk at our regular hour?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You you really put your best foot forward here, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Did you hear that? Q?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I did?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, welcome to the show. This is mean listen, this
is how it's done. This is a professional broadcaster here.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
By the way, LaVar arringtag'e pissed off of me? If
we want to go buy the scene we are what
he pissed off about it?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, because I thought we were a team.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
And then when we do the Herd, it's like you
get brand new because you're sitting in obviously, uh the
herd himself. You know, kylin C you're in his seat
right now, in your seat. But you know you has
that to me like you're your your cow herd today.
So what do you mean it's fine? Well, you know
the last time we did, when we first did the show,
before you cracked the mic and did such an awesome job. Uh,
(02:00):
you waited for me, you know, you you and Lee
you were downstairs. You were waiting for me. We came
up together as as a team, as a group. Right,
so wait, Lee wasn't there, Well Lee's not even here? No, right,
So there's there's that, there's the subtraction of Lee being
present and being available today. And I'm sitting in the
courtyard like I went into the building first, you know,
(02:20):
said hey to everybody, this, that and the other, and uh,
you know, you know the first floor building, you know
Q where we do our radio show, you know where
you know it's commoners.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
All way down below. Yeah, oh yeah. And and then I.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Think what my conclusion was when I saw how Jonas
was sitting down and everybody was around him when I
got to the studio, was that Jonas felt, you know,
as though he's arrived and and and literally.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Was sitting in the seat.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
They were doing the specs, they were doing his makeup,
all kinds of different things. Uh, you know, Elijah was,
you know, helping out and and you know, and I
was down there's waiting by myself.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Listen, I just have one request. Could you refer to
me at my Twitter handle at d Jonas Knocks You
wouldn't mind that, that would be appreciate. Look, I thought
you knew we were just coming up to the fifth floor.
I didn't know there's a team effort.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I'm downstairs. You saw my text message on the thread
right you Like, I'm downstairs, like are we a team?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Like?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Where's everybody at?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Are we not doing what we do always? Like when
we come here, this, that and the other.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
He upstairs essay like, oh all right, okay, all.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Right, you kind of flexed on your looks got there
before you.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, well but he wasn't here before me. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
That's you know, no, you never investigation. You never beat
me here, never do you. No one ever gets here earlier.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'm just saying, you know, listen, Well, I would like
to apologize.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I had time to go handle my business, wash my hands,
make something to drink, all kinds of stuff, and then
went outside. And because I didn't see y'all in the building,
then I went outside and I had time to actually
sit in the courtyard. And because I know what time
you get here and you can't come, you.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Have to understand too.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
So those out there listening, LeVar is night and day
different when he's the night walker versus the day walk.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, that's very true.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
When he's the night walker, you pull up and I said,
you'll see him sitting in his car. He's jamming out,
that's right, he's banging to some sort of music.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
You do not want to try to even attempt to
open that car door. And now during the day he's
as friendly as can be. You know, you can say hi,
give him a huge unsolicited just walk up to him.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Give them a hut yea that is Teddy Bear.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, there you go. That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, this is what I would recommend for anybody that
runs into LeVar Arrington, potentially at the Mule.
Speaker 8 (04:37):
Who knows I was at the Mule yesterday. I was there,
I had a island, you know, just buy him a
LeVar island. I'll probably go back today say it was
on me, and that way we could make amends for
what happened a little bit up here, a little miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's the least we could do. So you're apologizing our four.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Our four will be the apology, the full apology. It'll
be written out and there will be a stay.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
There will be some time during this first hour or
second hour, third hour.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'm willa whoop your you know what? Damn Can I
say that? Can I say that on the herd? I
mean maybe not?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
What if it was our show? You're getting double yeah? Okay,
damn right, I'm power.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Drives suplex you well, listen to Will Clutch You you
know who got suplexed. Uh, the Minnesota Vikings got supplexed
by Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And if you need evidence, maybe, if you mean evidence
that maybe they got that tilted world. Ddt off the
top rope from Kirk Cousins as he went on his
way to the Atlanta Falcons. The Minnesota Vikings have made
a move. Earlier today, it was announced they have acquired
the Houston Texans first round draft for draft pick on Friday.
Speaker 9 (05:47):
UH.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
In the deal, the Texans acquired the number twenty three
pick along with the seventh round pick, number two thirty
two overall, and the Texans would receive the Vikings second
round pick, their sixth round pick, and their second round
pick in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So the feeling they stack in chips.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, and it does feel like maybe there's a potential
move up in the draft coming for the Minnesota Vikings,
who might have a little bit of a macover Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Remorse. Here is a remorse or is it revenge? Is
it vengefulness?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
I don't know that it's vengefulness.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I think this is the perspective of the Minnesota Vikings
right now. The thirteen wins they had two seasons ago.
I think they all felt like they overachieved over they
nine to zero or something in one score games. It
was some ridiculous stat that you just you're not gonna
be able to replicate that consistently. And they won the division,
they get the thirteen wins, they get to the playoffs,
and I think they kind of see the roster and
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their team and go, yeah, we're not quite there, and
we're gonna have to make some cap decisions, and we're
gonna have to figure out Kirk, and we're gonna have
to figure out extending justin Jefferson. So now they find
themselves in the position where they've made You know, if
you look at their free agencies thus far, you know
everyone's gonna grade your free agency.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's almost like the first round of a draft.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
You could have a phenomenal draft class, a phenomenal draft class,
yet everyone's gonna look at the first round pick, and
so depending on how that works out, that's largely gonna
be how people view that that draft class. And that's
almost how it is in a free agency. Like the
second they lost Kirk cousins to Atlanta. Atlanta's the winner,
Minnesota is the loser. Meanwhile, they've been subtly slowly trying
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to build back up this roster with a bunch of
veterans who, you know, maybe aren't the top end market guys,
but they're also not paying them top end market money.
Like Jonathan Grenard's a young budding star off the edge.
They signed out of Houston. You know, Andrew Van Ginkle
put some really good football for the Miami Dolphins. You know,
he got signed there in free agency as an outside linebacker.
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Jerry Tillery has played some good football. Trent Sherfield's not
a number one, but they don't need a number one.
They've got basically two number ones, and Justin Jefferson and
Jordan Addison, who are both very capable. They did a
number three and that's what they got. Aaron Jones is
a very capable running back, you know, a little bit
up there in age, but still so. With this trade,
they now have the ammunition to get from their number
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eleven overall pick and package that twenty third overall pick
and maybe one oh eight to jump up to.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I think it's got to be number four.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
I think if you want to assure yourself the quarterback
that's after Caleb Williams and then most likely Drake Bay
and Jaden Daniels. You have to go to number four.
You know where Arizona is at. That's the only way
it works. Otherwise, you know, you run the risk of
maybe the New York Giants at six, or someone else
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trades up ahead of you if you get a five
with the Chargers and they trade back, of leapfrogging you
with the Arizona Cardinals being there for they really don't
need a quarterback. They've got Murray. They traded for Desmond Ridder,
which we can get into, but largely right now, I
actually think the Vikings have found a way of making
up four what looked like a dis and they've not
positioned themselves get their future quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I think it still looks like a disaster if you
asked me, that's just my my take on it.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I think everything you said was very eloquently put, very
well placed and positioned as only you can do. You
have been to all the listeners out there that may
not listen to our show regularly. Uh Q has been
on fire on on his calls and and his uh
you know, and analysis of a don't be a hater
his it's been he he called Mike Evans and and
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he called the the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
With Kirk Cousins, he did call them both stolen from
my notes.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I mean, if we're going to be clear, I mean again,
I know that that's the mood that you're in by you.
This is this is where he goes with adience. It's
his show to this new audience. And and we're just
assisting him to you. So I understand where Jonas is
at and I support you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Just it's new people to tell a lie to Just
don't't believe, Just.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Don't forget about us when the people that actually buy
you to your rhetoric decide to do something like boost
you to a show like it's the Jonas. Just don't
forget about you know, I don't know about you, QB.
I mean, just don't forget about me. You know, I'll
you know, I'll be your beagle juice.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Anyway, I look at this scenario with Kirk Cousins and
I say, you left a team that was maybe they
didn't show you they were willing to do what you
wanted them to do initially, But it's negotiating, it's it's
it's playing your hand, it's it's kind of you're going
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to follow our process and do it our way and
hope that it works out for us. And it did not.
I don't think unless you get Caleb Williams in this draft,
I think it's hard. I believe it's hard to sell
any other quarterback in losing the most coveted free agent,
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and in this year's class of free agent's at that position,
I think it's hard to make the sale that you're
gonna be a better team moving forward and you just
let Kirk Cousins go for this guy.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Phil, I am with you on this, like that sentiment.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I'm not saying that they're gonna be a better team
at least not even in the short term, or that
this is even gonna work out. I'm just saying early
on early indication, they really weren't an active player. Your
two biggest free agents, Kirk Cousins Daniel Hunter, they didn't
get either back. Yeah, Right, Daniel ends up going to Houston, Right,
Cousins goes to Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
You didn't get either back.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
I just feel like they've done a decent job of saying, look,
if we're not gonna pay for both those guys who
got paid more average annual salary per year, then let's
go ahead and say we're gonna bring in a bridge
quarterback and Sam Darnold. We're gonna get put ourselves in
a position to go take a first round quarterback that
we feel really good about.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
We're gonna bring in.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
A guy with upside off of the edge of Jonathan Grenard.
We're gonna bring another guy in Van Geegl who's young,
and let's see what Brian Flores can do with this group.
I mean, the one thing I'll say, and I don't
want this to take away from any production that anyone
had last year in Minnesota's fight the Vikings defense, because
they were vastly improved. A lot of that, to me,
had to do with Brian forest scheme. Yes, he puts
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so many bodies up around the line of scrimmage. It's
a fire drill at the snap of the football for
the offensive line or the offense to figure out who's
coming who's not. And so I'm not saying like any
like everyone's gonna plug in and play half success, but
I think he makes it easier to find those one
to one matchups for him. And that's that's why I'm
kind of betting more on these guys will.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Be able to hold their own I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
But I'm with you, like, no, there's no way you
could sit there and say in twenty twenty four the
Viking is going to be better without Kirk Cousins as
their quarterback. I think if you're betting between Minnesota success
and Atlanta, you would say Atlanta's probably gonna have a
greater likelihood of getting the playoffs and making a run.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
But to your point, they are They are entire terms
of personnel wise, not inferior. They're not, and I mean
their receiving cores. If you can do something that keeps
Justin Jefferson happy and motivated.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, but by the way, the whole, the whole is
Justin Jefferson on the trade block. Stop they're not trading
him yet, Like he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Can I give you some insight intel? All right?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
You know when you get the call game, LaVar. You
know this because you call games like you talk to
the coaches.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
All right.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I can't like understate.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
The or oversees me overstate the importance of Justin Jefferson
to Kevin O'Connell. Everything they do during the week, they
have like multiple versions of their game plan and it's
all predicated on how teams play Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
That's how important they feel like he is.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
They feel like he's one of the top, maybe the
best player at his position, but also in the league.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
And when when I.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Talked to them earlier this past season, I got the
sense that they would They knew that there might be
a divide with Kirk Cousins and that you might not
get him back. They like that was kind of out there.
They thought they had a good relationship. Maybe he come back,
maybe not. But Justin Jefferson is the one I think
they're most concerned with making sure he's in Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
For the long term. And I think these.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Moves are showcasing the fact that they're serious about finding
someone to build with him over the course of the
next few years. Granted, maybe a rookie, but they're they're
focused on finding someone to fill that void.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah, well listen, speaking and gambling. If you wanted to
and you were in the mood your life, you see
big don hit us up. Don't don't be playing around
what happened. Don't be messing around you don't you don't done?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
He said Big the Eagles, Don Sandro, the Big Don
the don like six shirts deep. Yeah right, yeah, don't
be don't be messing with me. Don't be messing around.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, which, well you know he he you know he
hit Jonas. I don't be leave him in the courtyard
like that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And Anny my first name was under case underca just
a lowercase jay everything like totally my name was capitalized,
both the L and the D.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, not me. You better pay.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Attention, definitely now gambling, by the way, before the before
the the Vikings trade, or before Kirk Cousins left Minnesota
to go to Atlanta, uh, the Vikings were a plus
three thirty to draft JJ McCarthy. It dipped down to
a plus one fifty earlier this week, and now we're
at even money following the trade. So JJ McCarthy, according
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to DraftKings most likely to go to the Minnesota Vikings
and even money right now. So there's that for you.
It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe filling in
for college mean Varrington, No, it's still Friday. We're still efforting,
still efforting Friday. It is a football Friday, so we're
(15:59):
still efforting that it is LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you are coming up. Hello, we have got
major breaking news in the world of sports, one of
the all time greats calling it a career. We'll tell
you who that is. That's next.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and neone eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It is The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up in
a little over twenty minutes from now, We're going to
tell you about some respect being shown to a quarterback
that some people might find a little bit surprising.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We'll get into that for you again a little over
twenty minutes from now, But we did talk about this
quickly before we went to the break, some breaking news
in the NFL, and it just came down a short
time ago that one of the all time greats of
this era and any era, Aaron Dom, has announced his
retirement from the NFL. Ten time Pro Bowler, eight time
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All Pro Super Bowl Championship, only thirty two years old,
going to be thirty three in a couple of months,
well one two representative, and yeah, he's he's going to
be on his way to Can't Ohio and be a
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
So Hills, Pennhills is finest.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He's kind of been poking around at this for a
couple of years now and some people thought, well, he's
just trying to be the highest paid defensive tackle in
the league and he's just trying to do this and that.
But now it's official and he's gone. He doesn't strike
me as somebody who's going to come back out of retirement.
This seems like that's going to be it for Aaron
Donald and he's off to He's got a bunch of money,
he's got all the credentials. He's going to be and
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can't know Hio in five years from now. Incredible career.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I think there's a case to be made too.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
And LeVar, you might not like it when I say it,
but it being one of the greatest defenders all time,
maybe the greatest. Look I know, but hear me out
all right, hear me out. He stepped into the league
a Pro bowler, he was Defensive Rookie of the Year.
From that point, moving forward from Saint Louis to his
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time in LA, all the way through his career, he's
essentially been a perennial Pro bowler and an All Pro
first team. I mean, there's only been the exception of
twenty twenty two where he missed time, but I believe
he's still made the Pro Bowl. That you're only playing
eleven games, I think you could make the case as
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an interior defensive tackle too, and the way he's impacted
the game with teams understanding the importance, you know, not
so much just of having pressure off the edge, but
a dominant interior defensive tackle. He's got a Super Bowl
to go along with it, but I think you could
make that case. He said that successful of a career.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I don't want to take away from from the announcement.
You know, congratulations and is an order for him and
also just a brilliant career, brilliant player. It's interesting because
for him to be so undersized, it's guys like Aaron
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Donald and Steve Smith, those type of guys. Drew Brees.
It's like these guys have been the greats of greats
and are tremendously undersized, have been looked at and undervalued
just because they don't fit a prototypical type of size,
which interestingly enough, Warren Sapp isn't much taller or much
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bigger than Aaron Donald and size and measurement. But to me,
hands down, those are in my estimation, the most dominant
to have ever done it at their position. And as
far as Aaron Donald his versatility, I think very few
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I throw JJ Watt in that conversation with Aaron Donald
in terms of the versatility and how they can be.
He is impactful and effective along that defensive front. But
until a guy is is actually the NFL most valuable
player as a defender and has had the impact on
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the game from all angles in the way that that
they have and has super Bowls to go on their resume,
has multiple Defensive Players of the Year on their resume,
I just can't go.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I can't rock against Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor is, Lawrence
Taylor is possibly the greatest football player of all time,
let alone defensive. So I'm gonna say I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Not gonna argue that.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
The only thing I'd say is Aaron Donald's production in
an era where as a defensive tackle too, one hundred
and eleven sacks as a defensive tackle and the majority.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Of his career.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Hey, listen, I'm not gonna fight you because he's from
where I'm from the thing from where my family.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
This award has gotten almost impossible for a defensive player
to win now.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It was impossible then.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Back then it was easier in the sense you have
more running backs winning it now.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He hear me out, hear me out.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
We looked at this year's MVP and we give it
to Lamar Jackson, which you can make the case he
was deserving statistically speaking, though, like we could have made
the case for a running back, but that almost never
happens anymore. It's almost exclusively now a quarterback award. I agree,
and I'm saying, back then, you saw a bit more
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of a variety, at least of it being to a
running back, maybe a defensive player.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Stop quarter back, et cetera, maybe a different offensive player
on but a defender to get the MVP award of
the entire league is unheard of.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Aaron.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Aaron Donald never had a down year, like the one
year you look at his numbers and goes, well, why
did ticket dip? He was dealing with the injury and
that was last year. But when he was there and
playing like, there was never a down here. Let's put
it to Let me put it to you this way.
We're sitting here debating greatest of all time. We're not debating,
you know what I mean, like, oh, this is quite
the accomplishment, quite the career.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Quite.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I mean, Aaron Donald is every bit of what people
think he is.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
It's like the Jordan Lebron debate, like who gives him crap?
Like if you honestly who cares?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
If you're debating Lebron James to Michael Jordan, you've won.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It's like arguing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's like arguing who's got the biggest house behind the
gated community? Who cares? Like you're both behind the gates,
but both want in life.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
There could be a lot of things that are not
good about you and being in that home. I'm telling you,
when you look at everything that's good about when you
had these type of conversations, and I'll say this off
the field where some and in some cases now you
can make the debate, and now you just took me
down a dark road.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Here's the only reason why I bring this up.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
It's the only reason I bring up the timing of
it and how different today's game is is because as
much as you're you know lotting, Lawrence Taylor, he's the MVP.
Mark Mosley was a kicker and won it in nineteen
eighty two TRU. And also you also had Alan Paige
win it in nineteen seventy one for the Vikings.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
And you had a bigger run of running.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Backs between Walter Payton, Roll Campbell through the years, Marcus
Allen obviously since basically two thousand, right like you had
Marshall Fulk in two.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Thousand win it amazing.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
After that Lt Shawn Alexander. Since then, it's been all quarterbacks. Yeah,
I mean AP won at one year in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
It's just it's looks.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
I want to look at the voting too, through the years,
because I think that's the other thing is I think
he was a lot closer winning some years than people realize.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
So Donald was defensive player the year. Obviously, we mentioned
the three times top two or he finished top three.
He finished top like he finished every year he was
in the NFL minus the first In the last couple
of years he was a top five defensive Player of
the year, and you could argue you should have won
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it every year, as we've laid out, But it's almost
like one of those things to wear out of boredom.
You gave it to somebody else, you know, Yeah, we're
tired of this guy always winning it, so let's go
ahead and give it to somebody else.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
When you talk about double teams and need I say
triple teams and need I say quadruple team, Yes, if
you watch film of Aaron Donald, there are times during
the game where he is doubled, tripled and quadrupled four
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men trying to block one guy during the course of
one play.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
He had twenty and a half sacks at a sixteen
game season as an interior as.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
An interior line.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I mean, is that is as phenomenal as it gets
for a player as an interior line.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
By the way, yeah, he's.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
A beast if we're being real too. He's undersize for
his position, yeah, at six pounds, Like I remember him
coming into the league, that was the knock. People looked
at him as a first round talent, but They're like, Ah,
can he hand up? You know, can he stand up?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Up?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Can he hold up? Can he hold up at the
point of attack? Is he stout enough? I think he
answered the doubters that were out there right out.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Of the gate.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
What's kind of funny. You know, his off season programs
consisted of him working out. His trainer taught him how
to do self defense, like they would use rubber knives
and stuff like that. Oh and so his his training,
I mean something like that, something like that. So basically
my man was up in there like Bruce Lee. He
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up in there breaking fingers, grabbing thumbs, hitting touch points,
pressure points like it was Islan Temple and cats like Dan,
I've been in that.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm gonna call a Pro Football Reference or if Pro
Football Focus wants to get on this, could somebody do
a deep dive and find me how many games Aaron
Donald was involved in an altercation, Like he had some
sort of an altercation where there was a face mask
grab or something that would be considered assault off the
football field. Because this seemed like every game that guy
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had a problem, Like remember the fight at practice, like
it would just turned into a giant brawl. He grabs
somebody's helmet and threw it on the ground. That was
a violent dude when he played football.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
You talking about Aaron Donald.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, we took a whole segment to talk about how
great he is. And you know what, it's not even enough.
Somebody's sitting somewhere right now, like, oh, they're talking about
Aaron Donald for the entire segment. You know what, it
is well deserved.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
He's a top three to five defensive player of.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Oil Desert and left this game much better than what
he found it. Yes, listen, I would have loved have
had a career where my impact on the game left
this game a much better game, knowingly by those who
spectated it, knowingly that it left the game better than
what it was when I left. There's only a handful
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of guys that get to take that and boast about
it if they prefer to, and Aaron Donald is one
of those guys. So we wanted a brilliant career.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
We could play this game since people want to, Uh,
the law office is a bitch and monor in here
we go. Clippers beat the Bulls one twenty six, one
eleven last night.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That'll cover our tracks there's your there's your your NBA
update clips City will play that game too, but nonetheless
just one of the one of the all time grades.
Aaron Donald calling it a career again, thirty two years old,
all the credentials in the world. So now that Hall
of Fame class in five years from now is going
to have Jason Kelsey and Aaron Donald. So the inside
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of the Lion is well represented in can't know how
both sides. Now, if you're the Rams, how much do
you think less need? And Sean m bigh tried to
convince him to come back for another year.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
They're probably still trying.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Wonder too. I kind of wonder too if, like, you know,
if he is really retired.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh, I think he's done. He's at this for so long,
I know.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
And he's made a ton of money throughout the course
of his career, so he's he's financially set. I just
you never know, you know, it's I always say this,
it's easy. I think for a lot of players who
do retire to make the announcement.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Now it becomes.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Really really hard to live with what life is after football.
Once you get through the end of training camp and
you see the games and the excitement and everything else.
That's that's what you did, That's what all your sacrifice
was for. And and once you get to that point,
because he's a player that no one's going to bring
in and be like, oh, hey, we need you go
to go to training camp, They're they're gonna plug him
in and they're gonna let him go and let him play.
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And that's a guy that if you were a team
trying to make a Super Bowl run and you needed
someone in there, I would be knocking on his door
every day and making sure that he truly wants to
be retired. If we're one of those teams that's on
a playoff run a chance to go win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
I just think it's the preparation and the wear and
tears the reason why he probably chose to step away.
I mean, the amount of a beating that he's taking
during the course of years. Like sure he's dished it out,
but I can't even imagine the pain that his body
feels dealing with that. And then the preparation, like you said,
going into it someone of his size and what he's
(29:28):
able to do at the level that he doesn't. I
can't imagine how much like we've seen. I've seen his workouts,
I've seen his workout film, but I'm sure there's a
lot of other things that I haven't seen. There's a
lot of things that we haven't seen that he has
to do in order for his body to be what
it needs to be. And I just wonder if he's
in his mind, Like listen, I don't want to be
(29:50):
one of those guys that you know.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I know.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I knew Deacon Jones, like he's an alumni in mine
for Washington, and I used to see him around and
and guys who who were amazing and did certain things,
their bodies just gave up on them. Man at a
certain point time. You've seen guys in wheelchairs and stuff
like that and they're kind of not coherent. I just
(30:13):
wonder if he's one of those guys. And I don't
know him very well, but I do know some people
who like Todd him and coached him when he was
younger and have known him through the years, and he
just seems like he's one of those cerebral guys, like
he's super smart, he's intelligent about himself, his business, his
body and all those things. I don't know that he
would be using this as as an opportunity to just
(30:34):
sit down and wait for somebody to come get them.
I think in his mind, I can't keep doing what
I'm doing to play at the level I want to
play at, and this might be the perfect time to
get off. It just seems like this might that might
be what it is.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But in this case, I'm saying he doesn't have to
do it for as long.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You guys want to pocket watch a little here. I
love the pocket watch from time to tell us that
career earnings for Aaron Donald's, Oh pocket watch.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I can't play a part that's already now, Oh, come on,
already looked well some of us, some of Stuart research.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
With about that? All right?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know, take that Jonas bar how about you think
he's messed already out there?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
One hundred and fifty plus damn.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
One hundred and fifty seven million dollars in change for
Aaron Donald. He was set to make what thirty five
million this upcoming year, so could have put him at
a clean one ninety two and change at the end
of his contract.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
But he's out.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
So in theory, at the least, he's probably at what.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Fifty fifty away?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
After everything, I'm pretty sure he lives in Hidden Hills
in out here in southern California. A little pricey out there,
you know. I mean, I'm just saying, and you're given
up forty nine percent. I get, I mean, I get
that all.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I mean, I give some golfers who said that that
they actually give up.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
More than that, But I get heartburn and reflux.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I had you give everyone Aaron Donald's addressed to.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, yes, in case someone wants to try to come on.
Everybody knows he lives in Hidden Hills.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
All right.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
I didn't know, but some of us do our research.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And so Jonas is going to hit you with that that.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
That's an issue out there or just around the country.
I mean, didn't didn't call and have an issue with
that somewhere it was vacation or something. Yeah, there is
an issue, there's something popular like that. But I mean,
I will say this to your defense, Jonas. They do
tours and and I am guilty. I've taken family members
who have come to visit.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Have you gone to Hidden Hills?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Well, I've gone on the tour. Really where you get
on the get in there, you go.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
You see something.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Leonardo DiCaprio's mom would come out with her.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
What is the what you do?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What you do?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Squore bottle? No, when you spray your yard with it?
What is it? Yeah? Thank you, thank you, c.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Sorry you said no to the score bottle. I just
thought the next step up would have been an oozy
her hose.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She pulls out her hose, California. She'd be trying to
those people down when they get too close to.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
The property, means.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Praying, hollering out obscenities. We're just gonna go down this
road right now. We're not going to go any closer.
Is there pumping her fist?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh yeah, why, Oh my god. It's a new tour.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's Universal Studios.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
That's the new studio tour, Lardo's mom. It is a congratulations.
Hell of a career.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
If this is it for Aaron Donald, who announced a
short time ago he is retiring from the NFL. Uh
just a great career, one of the all time greats
in the National Football League. It is the var Arrington
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you filling in for Calling
on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, and we're
going to tell you about a sign of respect for
one quarterback in the NFL that you might find a
(33:45):
little bit surprising. And that's next.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 4 (33:53):
Hey, what's up everybody?
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Up on Game?
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Speaker 4 (34:43):
So I'm playing that trap music right now.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
We're about to tell you music about somebody who has
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over the past couple of months in the NFL, and
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Speaker 4 (35:21):
No, no turns.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Hell yeah, Ryan Music, Come on right, come on, come on,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Good to be with you, hey, week morning.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's all damn right, all right, come on music.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
We got Jordan Love entering his second year as the
starter with the Packers after a strong finish to the
last season. In fact, it might have been so strong
he's now drawing players to the Packers in free agency.
Their new safety Xavier McKinney, said Love was definitely a
part of his decision to choose Green Bay This.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Is a competitive league, and you need a lead quarterback
to be able to even have a chance. And I
believe that.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You know, he is a league quarterback.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Obviously, I've played against him, I've watched him play, and
I think he's really good.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
And Skuy's in limit for him.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Some high praise I love there for him. Must not
have seen that last throw.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
The game, don't.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I don't want to bust in one's bubble, but they've
signed with two guys in a free agency.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No, I'm just saying, it's just like a bit.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
I don't want to bust it against bubble, but I'm
gonna just swap this down, yeah right away.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
I know.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I'm just saying, like Josh Jacobs, that's a good signing,
right Yester.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
They moved off Aaron Jones and Xavier McKinnie clearly was
motivated by Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
What other players did they recruit there doing better?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Doubt? I mean they listen, you know they got rid
of David bat He's gone. You know, they've made some
changes that are that's the other side of well, that's
not a good thing. Well, I'm just saying, maybe he
looks at that as as an upgrade. I personally don't,
but maybe he looks at as an upgrade. Haven't you
ever heard of addition by subtraction? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
If that of the blind side left tackle.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean, look, I know that Jordan Love showed a
lot of promise, especially down the stretch, but you know
a couple of those throws in the Niners you came
in hot. I'm just uh, hey, good morning to you too, Brady.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Right, well, why is everyone I'm not a man and
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, put in your coffee, que.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
By the way, Uh, the Giants did win that game,
by the way against the Packers four twenty two.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I mean, and that's not saying much.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, but that yards, one touchdown, one pick that would
have gone the other way had McKinney been on the
other side, yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Or had it been later What part of the season?
Was it later in the season?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It actually was later in the season, was it? Yeah?
It was fourteen?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Well there you go. Never mind.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
There's one I tried to sorry it was Tommy d
Was Tommy that game? In that game?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Tommy Cutlitz. Was he in that game?
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That?
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I think what's more interesting is the fact that it's
the Packers. It's free agency. They'd never do anything in freeze.
They just don't they They're never big spenders in free agency.
They did it like one year Rogers was there.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, because you're selling everybody on all the night life there.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, there's not. I mean, that's a good point. That's
super super cellible if.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You want to be honest, ask Andrew Bryant.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
That's why they put a lot of workout bonuses in
the contracts for the green Bay players, so they come
up here in the off season and it makes them
the incentive to workout.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's like, hey, we're a little low on strip clubs,
but you know what, here's the workout bonus.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Please come to green Bay. That makes sense. I mean
I heard they had strip club called the Big Moose.
All right, did you guys see this?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
By the way, Hey, we ain't knowing our time slot.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So I finished it. But thank you for I'm a relaxed.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Im a relaxed But there was more to it. There
is add a blank to the right after Moose. All right,
all right, all right, yeah, let's keep going.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
All right.
Speaker 10 (38:55):
Dion Sanders has brought Colorado back into the mainstream after
only one season with the Buffalo's huge persona has helped
land some of the top recruits and try and rebuild
that program. In some surprising news today from USA Today
reporting in the fourteen months since Sanders has took the
head job, he has not made a single has not
(39:16):
made a single off campus visit to recruits, no home visits,
Nothing's what awesome. When asked for comment, the university did
confirm this was true. Okay, so some other data from
USA Today to put this into context. Jim Harbaugh made
one hundred and forty five visits between December first and
(39:37):
him leaving for the Chargers. Steve Sarkisian with Texas has
made one hundred and twenty eight visits in the same timeframe.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I mean, you see, like this is high praise for
Venmo and home to go anywhere and sense of cash home.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Visit meaning going to the schools as well, Like he
hasn't gone any school the way that they.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Were clear on.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Yeah, no off campus visits, no home visits, nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Dang.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Well, here's the thing is, he doesn't need to. It's
because he's they know where to find him. But also
he's recruiting the transfer portal. He's not recruiting high school
players at least not that much. He's got Jordan Seeden,
who was a big recruit from this past year at tackle.
But if you actually look where their rank, they're dead
last in the Big twelve based on the twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Four rankings, their composite ranking.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
If you mix in all of it, it's really bad.
But they're transfer rankings top ten. So obviously the guys
who have played, they've already played college football. They're more
interested in coming to Boulder and visiting with him and
sing it than he is of necessarily going to their house.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
All I'm gonna say is man Man just broke the
school record in the one hundred meters yesterday. He ran a
ten seven man Man, you better bring your ass to
see him.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You want him to come to Boulder.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Oh, you wouldn't send man Man to Boulder to without
him to say, wow, you better come.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Sing Well, you can prime know each other, you've played together.
So that's true, and they won of the first teams.
He's not hard to find though, Yeah, you ain't hard
to one. Now that that is his his slogan. That
is one of them. You better I better find you
at Charter Oak High School in Covina, California.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
And your house is so big you just land the practice.
Yet right home home.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Visits doesn't mean coming to their house. That means come
meet us, meet them.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
At the school, your friends.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He would, and I would. I would cook him some barbecue.
I'm making some food. Yeah, you know, Yeah, we sit
down talk.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Your house have many bathrooms? Is Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
That was I got about. I got a few, but
not as many as Yeah, what's the crab close account?
I got a few. Don't worry. Let's
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