April 4, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin compares Caitlin Clark's rise to stardom to Tim Tebow as an all-time great college athlete that has transcended their respective sport
He explains why the Bills losing Stefon Diggs might widen the gap between Buffalo and the Chiefs
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go. It's a Thursday live in
Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Jordan Schultz filling in for Jmac, who's
back Monday. Both of us off tomorrow, jmax on Vak
with a family, well deserved, Jordan. We've had a busy week.
Stepon Digg's trade was the highlight of it in the NFL.
But now we're going back into the college basketball tournament.
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Yukon has landed the plane finally with a mess with
the favorites and the men's and all sorts of stuff.
Now in sports today, we've got the Lakers now are
red hot, but aren't moving up the West. O Tam
and he hits his first home run Big Day.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Three weeks away today from the NFL Draft today.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Can't wait. So let's start with this mark Women's NCAA
Final four tickets are double the price of men's. Now
the men are playing in a much bigger venue, but
nonetheless that is driven by Caitlyn Clark and none other
than Lebron James has been paying attention to it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I don't think there's you know, not much difference between
the men and women game when it comes to college basketball.
I think the popularity comes in is the icons that
they have in a women's game. The IOWA was a
great team, but Clay Kaitlin Clark is the reason we
tuned in. You know, you're going to watch Purdue because
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of Zach Edy because he's a great player. We watched
that Purdue Tennessee game because of Zach Edy and Knect
like like, So let's we don't let's say players depending
on who they are, would drive the attention, you know,
when it comes to viewership.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
No question. Maholmes does the same in the NFL. I
cannot think this morning, I sat down and I went
back ten years. I went back fifteen years to the
last men's college basketball player that was this popular. Now,
Zion was big for about six months. His shoe ripped apart,
but we didn't have a slow bill. It was sort
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of like internet phenom Duke Bye Bye. Jimmer Furdett was
an oddity very briefly, but BYU was not a high
profile program and nobody thought he was going to be
great Professionally, JJ Reddick very polarizing for the number one
program in the country, but coach k always took a
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lot of oxygen out of the room. There he is.
The brand was the brand of Duke basketball. I'm trying
to think of the last time a men's college basketball
player tripled ratings, tripled, quadrupled ticket prices. And I go
back to a guy I covered I was doing local
in Las Vegas at the time. It's Christian Latner of Duke.
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So big program, great looking, beloved, hated tribal feelings all
over the board for him. His team beat many regarded
as the best college basketball team ever in UNLV. Remember
they came back and beat him after the UNLV clobdhom
humiliated Duke in Denver, they came back the next year,
shocked the world and beat him. He had the looks,
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he had the game, and there were other players like
for instance, Shack, but Shack's team didn't do anything in
the tournament, and Latner and Duke played Shack and they
were better. I had to go back thirty three years.
In fact, I was thinking this morning, why some of
it is. She's presently great, Caitlin Clark. She has a past,
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she was great last year, and she has a future.
She'll be the number one pick in the WNBA. Past, present, future.
She's got it all and that matters. There's an arc
to it, like a good movie. Jim or Ferdett was
never going to be a great pro. Zion hasn't been
a great pro, and we didn't talk much about him
in high school. We didn't really care. And in Duke
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it was one big year. In fact, I thought to myself,
the only recent college athlete I can even compare to
Caitlyn Clark, Well, what's the most popular college sports? Football
would be Tim Tebow. She is Tim Tebow. It's mostly
the sport, but something beyond that. She's the feisty Midwestern
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underdog playing for redemption after losing to LSU last year.
Tim Tebow had a very unique game. We're not sure
it was going to win at the pro level, but
he did get drafted in the first he was popular.
Most of it was football, but there was an intensity
with Caitlin Clark and Tibo. There was a passion with
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Caitlin Clark and Tibo. There's a relatability with Caitlin Clark
and t Bow. Not everybody initially gets it with either,
but now everybody's all in. And I think that's the
last time. Christian Latner in ninety ninety one ninety two,
his last couple of years there, he was I mean,
he's the only guy to make the Dream Team upset UNLV,
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part of Duke Cocky, divisive, polarizing, good looking, and he
was at one of the five best college players I've
ever seen. I didn't see Luel Sindra at UCLA, but
or Bill Russell at San Francisco. But Layner was dominant
when toe to toe with Shackan was the better player.
He was a great college player. But Nick Wright talked
about she is also and this helps her. She has
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the same game to a large degree of our most
popular NBA player.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
She is the first person male or female, that has
taken STEP's game and duplicated it to her skill set,
whether it's the kick ahead passing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Whether it is the.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Great court vision or the impossible rain, it is really
special to watch. And it doesn't matter that it's women's basketball.
People love stars and great athletic events, and that crosses
any gender lines.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
There was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Meanwhile, there was a big trade yesterday Stefan Diggs. But
it's just not a receiver going to the Texans. The
Buffalo Bills have a great history in this country of
almost winning super Bowls and never winning super Bowls. Jim Kelly,
Marv Levy, all those years they had to face dynasties,
and now they have to face another, the Kansas City Chiefs,
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and they just lost easily their best skilled player, Stefan Diggs.
We've been waiting for years to figure out who is
going to be Patrick Mahomes, Foyle, Peyton Manning to Brady
Kadi went to the Warriors and beat Lebron Mickelson with
Tiger Lemieu de Gretzky. Who's the foil? It's gonna be
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Josh Allen? Initially? Will it be Justin Herbert in division?
Herbert now has lost both of his best receivers, and
so is Josh Allen. This offseason, Burrow probably won't gonna
keep t Higgins and Lamar Jackson's got one star receiver.
He just can't beat Mahomes. Maybe it's c J. Stroud
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with the Texans, but the Bills general manager admitted yesterday
Kansas City keeps winning and the Bills today aren't necessarily
as good a team.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
This is by no means the Bills given up or
trying to take a step back or anything like that.
Everything we do, we're trying to win and we're going
to continue to do that. Are we better today, probably not. Yeah,
it's a work in progress and we're going to continue
to work on that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, we're probably not going to be as good and
last year at home not as good. These Bills over
the last twenty four hours feel like they become the
other Bills who were really, really good, which is usually
good enough unless there's a Tiger or a Brady or
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a Tyson in his prime or now a Mahomes. Good
is not good enough. If you told me Chargers Herbert Harbaugh,
Texans Tamiko Ryan, c J. Stroud or Bills Josh Allen,
I'd probably say Buffalo in the next five years would
finish third of those three teams. In teams, I think
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could win a Super Bowl again. Less Miles and ed
Orgeron were good, but not when Nick Saban was in
the division. Rex Ryan was good, but not in the
same division with Bill Belichick. A lot of great golfers
during Tiger's twelve year blitz of the sport, they weren't
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good enough. Big Ben It's gonna be a Hall of Famer,
But Brady's prime years when he was rolling, Big Ben
felt small. Houston Rockets beat a lot of teams. Small
ball couldn't beat the Warriors. Good and very good are
often enough to hoist a trophy. They're not with a
legend in the same conference and the best player probably
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in the world, Patrick Mahomes right down the street. And
today the Bills feel a little bit like the Bills
we watched years ago, the second best team for maybe
three quarters of a decade or a decade. All right,
good stuff. Nick Nurse is stopping by. The seventy six
ers have Joe Lmbid back in their head. Coach stops
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by in one hour, Peter Scheger joining us, Chris Brussard,
a lot of stuff going on. Shoe a Otani had
his first home run. By the way, I know, it's
already in the baseball season. I know it's early. Oh my,
the Dodgers batting or five runs or more so. I
grew up as a kid that loved baseball in the
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seventies and about the time I started watching TV in
seventy two, seventy three, seventy four. By that time, the
Cincinnati Reds were great, and they had like Rose and
Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench and Ken Griffey Sr. George
Foster and Tony Perez. It was just like leading off
to seven in the order, like Hall of Famers, all great.
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That's what the Dodgers look like. The difference is that
Dodgers have it appears to be significantly better talent on
their starting staff. That's around the corner as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
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Speaker 1 (10:46):
All Right, you're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored
by Credible Great Rates. None of the Bulls. Lakers remain
absolutely on fire. They beat Washington last night. They've won
eight of nine. Anthony Davis had another monster night. I've
said for years, last couple of years, I've been very
cool on the Lakers. I think since about January they
look like a team that's the third best in the
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league on any given night with Denver, Boston and the Lakers.
They already went to Boston and beat the Celtics without
a D and Lebron. That felt kind of odd, But
I think they would take the Celtics seven games. I
think they're that good. And I think with a D
and Lebron in crunch time against the Celtics team in
the playoffs, in crunch time that's not always delivered, it
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would be interesting. But here's how much better the West
is than the East. The Lakers have been on fire
for two months. Two months ago they were ninth in
the West. They've won eight of nine and most even
on fire for two months, there are eleven games over
five hundred. They're still ninth in the West. The bottom
of the Western Conference to me, can compete with the
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top of the East. I mean, last night, Cleveland's number
three seed in the East. They got beat by twenty
one by Phoenix, who's an inch above the playing game.
Milwaukee's a strong number two seed in the East. They
got rolled by Memphis last night. That's not going to
make the playoffs in the West by ten. So the
Celtics and the Lakers split their series, and I probably
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if he gave me one game, I would take the
Lakers in one game. They don't have the scoring, shooting depth,
but they have Lebron, James and Ad the best defender
in that series, and on any given night, the best
offensive player. And I think a lot of it is
the duo's out West, They're endless. They just I mean,
it's it's Lebron, and it's a D, and it's k D,
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and it's Booker, and it's Stephen, it's Stramon, and it's
Paul George and Kawhi and it's Chet Holmgren and it's
Sga and it's Kat if he's healthy, and and Edwards,
and it's Luca and Kyrie and Jamal Murray and Jokic.
And out East you have two of them, Bam Butler
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and then Jalen Brown Tatum. But we don't really know
if Dame and Giannis are going to work big in
the playoffs. Do you trust him? I think I think
Philadelphia was playing well and may regain their form. Their
head coach joins us in forty minutes. But I mean,
you go like nine to ten deep. So it just
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it's like that's the difference. But the Lakers have been
on fire for two months. They won eight, up nine,
They can't move up. They're still a ninth and that
really is the difference. Last night another monster night, and uh,
you got a little runway here into the playoffs. Here's
Lebron after.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We want to continue to build chemistry, we want to
continue to play good basketball. But the whole season still
kind of waighs. Wait even you know, I know we
only got six games or six games left, five games left.
The whole season prep aught out and stuff is totally
different from the regular season. So wherever we fall is
where we fall and wherever we got to go. If
we have to go on a road, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I said eight and nine, maybe it's eight to
ten for the Lakers really good basketball, but it is.
And the other thing is in the West, you know,
iron sharpens iron. What's interesting is the Celtics have had
so many blowout wins. Think about this. The Celtics have
had as many twenty plus wins against the East as
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they have losses against the East. And you could say, oh,
you can rest your starters. Go look at the history
of sports. AFC teams Brady and New England, Flacco and
the Ravens, Mahomes and the Chiefs come out of the
tougher AFC. They're sharper. The SEC teams they'd go play
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remember you know SEC team. Oh, big twelve teams, undefeated
forty five a game, Big ten team blowing past people.
A couple of years ago, Michigan had one close game,
I think it was the year before this past year.
One close game all season Illinois, and then they got
upset when they played TCU. They just weren't used to
the number of close games. Boston's got no close games.
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They've split with the Lakers, they can't beat Denver, and
so the Western Conference. I'm I'm a believer in you know,
iron sharpens iron. I don't care how tough the division is.
When the Rams won the Super Bowl, they had to
face San Francisco twice. You know, you had Russell Wilson back.
I believe with the Seahawks. Still, the division was crazy,
crazy competitive. All right, here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, no, no, the news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
This is the herd Line news. All right, Colin, this
is quite interesting to me. Caleb Williams, I reported this morning,
had his visit, his only visit potentially with the Chicago Bears.
Toured Hallis Hall, the legendary Hallis Hall. I'm told he
made an excellent impression. Was present, was not a diva
at all. New Everyone's name was just over the top impressive.
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They had steak dinner the night before, Chicago famous for that.
This should solidify him as the topic in the draft.
We also have, as I just reported, Robo Dune's visiting
the Bears today. Now Chicago not only has the first
pick Colin, but the ninth pick. How about a little
Caleb Williams to Odoonza in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think they'd prefer although they may take Odonza, they'd
prefer to move the ninth pick down, get more picks
and get a defensive player. Matt Iberflus was quoted yesterday
saying we need a one to two punch on the
defensive line. This is something I've speculated for two weeks.
A coach makes more than a GM. Usually, although eber
Flus doesn't have a lot of power in the building
right now. Generally a coach will pound the table and
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you got to get me one of my guys. McVeigh.
If it's pushed a shove is going to get a
back or a receiver early in this draft. Once they
get a defensive tackle and an edge rusher. So I
do think eber Flues is saying, listen, you went and
got Keenan, DeAndre Swift, Gerald Everett. You getta get Caleb Williams.
You've taken a lot of picks on the offensive line.
I got Montes Sweat in a good corner. You got
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to give me another pass rusher. For the record, I
think they need that in Chicago more than Romadunze. Whereas
the Giants and the Jets and the Chargers, there's a
lot of teams that need receivers. Move down a little
bit to me for Chicago, accumulate other picks, they'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You mentioned Dallas Turner yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You like him to Atlanta. That seems like the two
obvious picks besides Caleb Williams. Joe All goes to the Titans. Fels, Yeah,
left tackle. They have terrible old line. Any young quarterback
needs time and an edge rusher to Atlanta Dallas Turner
because they do everything offensively. Once Kirk Cousins came into town.
Now they just got to get a pass rush. So
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those there's three picks in the first round. That feels
solid all to the Titans, Dallas, Turner, Atlanta, the Bears.
Now again, I could see Tennessee going down in Atlanta
going down and saying we'll address that at the fifteenth
pick instead of now in getting more players. But Atlanta,
I think is ready to win the division if they
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can generate any pass rush out of this draft.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I agree, Atlanta's right there. They get Kirk, they have
the running back, they have weapons, I agree. Next up,
the Dallas Cowboys Colin have been eerily quiet this offseason. Now,
of course, Dak Prescott's contract has been a big factor
in their lack of spending. Mike Sandel of the Athletics
spoke to an anonymous NFL EXECU who said, quote, the
quarterback contract has put the handcuffs on them. They have
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a talented roster already. They're going to have some big
extensions coming with Ceedee Lamb and others. Of course, Michael Parsons,
so I can see why you might want to keep
your hands in your pockets. Now, we talked about Dak
he has a near sixty million dollar CAF hit next
or this off this season. Not to mention no trade,
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no tag, Claw has got all the leverage. This is
an odd situation brewing in VD.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If a rival executive says that, don't you think the
Cowboys see the books? So I mean, like this is
it's one of those things where I think Dallas Cowboy
fans are realistic. You know, every time I've been a
Cowboy fan, the one ones I meet are always like, yeah,
we get it. You know, Dak should be a forty
eight million dollar quarterback, not a sixty That twelve million
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dollars has two players that's a number two corner, that's
another top receiver. So yeah, I just Dallas is not
I would do exactly what Jerry's doing. This is exactly
what I would do play through the contract. Because my
take is if you look at Green Bay and Detroit
rosters and San Francisco's and potentially the Rams after this
draft and Philadelphia, Dallas has at best the fifth or
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sixth best NFC roster because they can make no moves
in free agency. They need to hit on like three
draft picks hit on them, and one of them's receiver.
Another could be tight end, like they've they've got real
needs here.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
But what if Dak goes to free agency in a year,
he's thirty one and you lose him. So the alternative,
I know Dak's not perfect, but the alternative is not
exactly peaches either, because to lose Dak could be catastrophic
if they're trying to win right now.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No catastrophic losing Mahomes. Unfortunate is losing Dak. You know
you don't have any trophies. Catastrophic is losing Josh Allen
Patrick Mahomes, like McVeigh retires. Okay, yeah, like that's catastrophe. Bad. Yeah,
the NFL is full of bad.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Fair enough, Okay, And finally to the NBA, where the
Celtics defeated Okay, see one five, one hundred. Last night,
Boston clinches the league's best record calling in home field
or home court advantage throughout the playoffs. After the game,
head coach Joe Mozula talked about their accomplishment. It's very
hard to do.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
You know, we may never be in this position again,
so you don't want to take it for granted. So yeah,
we definitely talked about it as a team talked about
it before the game, Uh, trying to treat this game
as like the clincher, so that to kind of put
that on ourselves to be able to do that. I
think it was important for us to simulate that. And
you know, it's just a testament to the guys, and
so we should enjoy it tonight and we wake up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, nobody cares Colin Oh go ah, I watched
most of that game. Okayc He's gonna be fun. I
don't think they're gonna last long in the playoff. They'll
be at one of those classic remember the Bulls Derreck
Rose team, where you knew they were good, you knew
they win a playoff series, you knew they were viable,
but you never really thought they were a championship team
because Lebron was in the conference. Celtics were good. I
think at the time I kind of feel that with Okay,
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see they're a year away. They'll win. You know, they're
gonna win probably unless they match that with the Lakers.
I take la they're gonna win a playoff series. But
when you watch them, I just it's so funny to
watch them play because all the players look twenty one
years old. They're basically the same age as the North
Carolina tar Heels. They're like twenty two and a half
years old. They look like when you watch them, it's
like I'm watching a college team. So I you know,
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when you watch the Celtics, you got Porzingis, you've got
older players. That was an experience matchup more than anything.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, how about this. By the way, Colin the second
place Bucks are a whopping thirteen games behind the Celtics
in the East. By comparison, We've talked about the West
all week. The Warriors are tenth in the West, but
only eleven and a half games behind first.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, and we've we've discussed this. I don't know exactly
why the West is so significantly better, but if Denver
wins the title again, we will have had four dynasties
since Jordan all out West. I don't really consider the
Heatles got to four finals one to two, needed a
shot to win two of four from Ray Allen. But
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in the end that felt so much just about Lebron.
They didn't have a classic point guard, they didn't have
any size. It was kind of spulster Lebron Wade and
figured it out, but uh, yeah, I mean the West,
it's different. It's like SEC football. Until recently, until the
last couple of years, felt like just better than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You mentioned Chicago earlier with d Rose, Jokim Noah. I
tell you why. I like, Okay, see this year to
go far Sga and Chet that's that's better than d
Ros and Noah were.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Offensively they're elite, but they just they're so young. NBA
playoff history. Young guys don't win, they don't manipulate the refs,
they don't get the car you Yokurry Yokich had been
around a while, Gordon had been around a while. Porter,
Yeah you had yet Brown off the bench was young.
But Casey's b has been around for a while. That
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staff had been around for a while. They've been through
some NBA playoff stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Jordan with a news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So, uh, you know, years ago when I was at
the other place, Uh, they used to call it the
Hot Stove League, but it was basically the Yankees and
the Red Sox and mostly the Yankees just buying the
best players.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And now people sort of complained, well, dodgerge Garrett Coles,
the Yankee Jon Soto went to the Yankees. The Mets
spent a fortune last year, so did the Podres. In fact,
last year, money doesn't guarantee anything. The three biggest payrolls
last year, I believe, with the Mets, Podrais and Yankees
none made the playoffs. It's not about being rich. How
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do you spend the money? Game day revenue for the
Jets and the Giants and the Bears in Washington, Let's
just say the Jets of the Giants, the Bears game
day revenue is massive. It's also massive for the Philadelphia Eagles.
They know how to spend it. New York's teams now
are almost all bad. They have huge revenue, huge cable deals,
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huge ticket prices, beer prices, game day revenue.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So what.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, the Dodgers have a lot of money, but they're
also creative their research and development. They just don't miss
on minor leaguers. They find discarded bullpen guys from other
teams and make them good and move them off and
get more picks for players. Players. So last night, Shoheo
Tani his first home run here.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It is.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Three one.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Stuck.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The only team. It was my favorite team growing up.
I said this earlier that I think compares to this
team offensively is the seventy five seventy six Cincinnati Reds.
The Dodgers right now lead baseball and virtually everything including walks, RBIs, hits,
home runs average. Their batting average is two eighty. The
league average will probably end up closer to two fifty.
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Right now. I think it's like two forty five. And
this isn't even the time of the year when guys
hit because it's cold out. Ball carries better in the summer.
Hands are warmer. Guys hit better in May, June, July,
and August. So you have to eliminate. Is this the
best batting order since nineteen seventy six? So we know
the seventy six team was not on steroids, and it's
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a cleaner sport now than it's ever been. What they're
gambling on on don't know, but clean in terms of steroids.
But you got to take out ninety four to two
thousand and four Cleveland Indians. Manny can't count it the
Mariners where like Brett Brett Boone became Babe Ruth can't
count it the night the Texas Rangers in the mid nineties.
I mean, you might as well have had needles in
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the dugout. Give me a break. You can't count those teams.
You got to go back to the seventies and an eighties,
and you got to go to this team in terms
of a batting order. And it's not just money. In fact,
right now they're hitting I said two to eighty. They're
hitting two ninety four. That's insane, nobody. You don't really
hit well out of the shoot in baseball. It's chili.
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Your hands are cold, the ball didn't carry as well
in You know, wetter Weather h hitting two ninety four
and the average today is too culture to two forty four.
So I think it's the best most productive freeman bets
and their staff is deep. And again I'll go back
to this, it's not just no Yankee fans were complaining
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when you were buying all the players twenty years ago.
I didn't hear anybody complaining. I didn't hear a Red
Sox fan complaining. I didn't hear a Yankee fan complaining.
It's not just that three biggest payrolls last year did
not win. They're more creative in LA with their money.
I mean, go look at the Mookie Bets deal. Now,
it's like they stolen. They find bullpen guys from other
teams that have been discarded. When they bring guys up
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from the miners, they almost always hit. So it's it's
they they play and spend like a big market team.
They draft and develop like a small market team. And
it's like, uh, you know, it'd be like a big
action movie winning an Oscar and being popular but also
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winning for Best Screenplay. Like it's all of the above.
It's big, it's rich, it's really smart and thoughtful, and
uh yeah to ninety four that that's uh. And this again,
I'm not counting that ninety four to two thousand and
four where you know it may it started with Kenseko
ken Caminiti. It went on, and that started with hitters,
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and then it was pitchers and it was like, you know,
the Balco stuff. I'm not counting anything. For ten years,
a lot of guys had insane years. The numbers popped.
I'm not you know, pointing to any fingers here, but
none of that stuff's gonna count. We're just not gonna
count that stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Brady Anderson fifty homers, that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
One yeoh, and it was weird because that I always
felt that was a bit pre like movie.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It was.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It was right on the precipice. It was very very early,
but it was I mean, I saw a lot of guys.
My Mariner team had guys having career years, and it's like, okay,
I can be honest about it. But it's just sort
of like we have to be honest about Like the
John Wooden era in college basketball, well, they had a
booster that was buying the best players. Like it's legendarily
known now every Bobby Knight, for all his vulnerabilities flaws,
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the late Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight never paid for players.
You didn't have to like Bobby Knight. Not my cup
of tea, not a fan at all. Thought he was
a hypocrite, you know, But Bobby didn't pay for players.
The John Wooden teams paid for players. All right, that's okay, whatever,
we can talk about it, but you gotta be honest
about baseball. The steroid stuff is much more monitored. It's
not happening now. And it's Dodger team. It's not just
(28:58):
the money, it's they spend it very effectively. They're the
innovators on this They just signed in the catcher contract.
Now they push that money all in the future as well.
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Caleb Williams met with the Bears.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Funny is I've known Caleb for about, you know, a
couple of years. Multiple opportunities to meet him always classy,
always smart, always thoughtful, good sense of humor. But it's
amazing in this day and age. You know, it could
be Angel Rees, it could be Caleb Williams. You say
one or two things on television and people make this
big judgment on who you are, and it's like, well,
that's not necessarily fair. Who you are can't be defined
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by running up and hugging your mom or putting something
on your fingernails or a little trash talking to basketball
for that's not who anybody is. It's just a moment
in time. So I like Caleb. I met him multiple times.
What did you hear about the meeting with Chicago?
Speaker 9 (30:36):
I like Caleb too. I got a chance to speak
with him at let at the combine where I had
a tweet that went out that went viral in a
way that I didn't expect he would. And it was
just that he didn't compete in any of the drills
on Saturday, But when all the quarterbacks and wide receivers
were done, I watched as I was on the field
in Indianapolis, Caleb Williams go over and shake and thank
every single person who worked the event from the NFL
(30:57):
side and from the Lucas Oil Stadium side all the
workers at the stadium and just thank them, and he
was the last person to leave. And of course that
goes viral and everyone's like, oh, he was acting. I
don't think it is. I don't think he is acting.
So the Bears have now had two dinners with Caleb Williams.
Let me explain them. The pro day, which was a
couple of weeks ago, they took him to a place
called Bird Streets in Los Angeles, which is a private
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members club and it is the h Wood Group which
does Delilah and nice Guy, and they had him there
and it was kind of cool for the Bears guys,
and I spoke to sources there to see how Caleb
kind of operates in that La scene. So at that
dinner there there at a table, but there's also celebrities.
I think Quabo from the Migos was there, Cuevo from
(31:39):
the Amigos and Jamie Fox was there, and like just
seeing how Caleb's comfort level was. And you know, the
one thing that the Bears have told me and that
interaction was he moves quietly.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He's not a look at me guy.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
If anything, He's kind of quiet and a little bit
more reserved than you would imagine from the highs trophy,
number one overall pick who made all this nil money.
So they loved their meeting with him there. They loved
their combine experience with him. And then they had him
in to Lake Forest, which is where the Bears facility is,
Hallis Hall. They took him to a place called Sophia's
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Steak two nights ago, which is not Chicago cut, it's
not Gibson's, it's not as Chicago. It's more in the burbs,
and it was interesting. They said they loved watching Caleb
interact with their people on their turf. Then they had
him in Hallis Hall yesterday and he was fantastic. One
thing to note, Dallas Turner, the star pass rusher from Alabama,
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who is also going to be a top ten pick,
was in the building also and it was cool to
see them interact a little bit. Here's the defensive player,
here's Caleb. The Bears also have the ninth overall pick.
They're gonna meet with all the top prospects, but Caleb
Williams has checked every box for the Chicago Bears, and
I would be beyond shocked if he's not the first
overall pick.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We largely acknowledge that McVeigh and the Red Sean Peyton,
Kyle Shanahan. We kind of know who the big dogs
are offensively coaching in this league. I think Kevin Stefanski
should be near that group. And I think Kevin O'Connell
is the rising star. He's the McVeigh. He just hasn't
had the star quarterback. He hasn't had the stafford yet.
(33:14):
I could argue Golf's better than Kirk Cousins is a
prospect as a talent. And so I really do think
they're moving up. I said yesterday, I think everybody should
move down, whereas I think Atlanta, Tennessee, Chicago should stay put.
And then I looked at Minnesota and I'm like, I'd
move up, And so do you believe they will? And
(33:36):
do you believe they've already decided shrikes, They've made their
call in the building. They're not going to tell us
who their quarterback is.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Well, they've done a couple of things quietly. They acquired
the twenty third overall pick also in a trade with Houston,
which gives them ammo if they want to say, let's
package the eleven and the twenty three, we can move
up to the top five. Perhaps they also the darnoalds
is interesting because I'll tell you this, there were other
teams interested in Donald Washington being one of them, and
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Washington ended up with Mariota and Washington's a number two
overall pick, but Darnald chose chose to go to Minnesota
with other options where he could have been competing for
a starting job. Also, but I think the fact that
it was a one year deal tells Darnald that, hey,
there's also going to be someone else coming. So at eleven,
did they get the prize pick?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
No?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
But if they package eleven and twenty three, can they
move up?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Sure.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
I think Minnesota is a team to watch for sure,
and that's an obvious one. I think Denver's a team
to watch. I've told this story before, but I'll just
bring you in on it. You know, Sean Payton and
I worked together on that Fox NFL kickoff show. He
became a dear friend. He's fantastic and one of the
stories he's told me multiple times is that he had
every intention of drafting Patrick Mahomes eleventh overall in the
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twenty seventeen NFL draft. Or twenty eighteen NFL Draft. He
wanted Mahomes. He even told Breeze ahead of time, like,
we're going to be doing this deal. If Mahomes slips there,
Andy Reid jumped right above him one spot, and he's
always wondered what if. I don't think Sean Payton wants
to be caught with his hands tied again and say,
oh my gosh if I just had traded up and
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had just gotten our guy. So I think the Broncos
are a team to watch if they can find themo.
But the team that I keep hearing over and over
and over again is that thirteen spot. The Raiders and
a quarterback, very specifically Jaden Daniels, and the reason being
the amazing relationship Antonio Pierce, their head coach as with
Jaden Daniels. Those two were together at Arizona State. Antonio Pierce,
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of course an assistant coach to HERM Edwards, and Jaden
Daniels their star quarterback. They have a real bond and
a real relationship. Tom Telesco a guy that you and
I both respect the hell out of. Does he have
what it takes to move up and somehow get to
the two spot or the three spots to get Jayden Daniels.
It might be just too high in the draft to
go and get him, but I could tell you the
Raiders would be a prime team to move up and
get that player if he was available.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Stefan Diggs move great for Houston when you got the
quarterback on the Rocky pay scale. I don't love it.
Sean mcdermot's taken years to figure out the run game.
Now he's got to re event the perimeter passing game
in a draft, and again it took him forever to
get the running back right.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
They have upgraded at tight end, but Buffalo to me
doesn't feel as good as last year. What say you
on that?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Well, Kincaid in a ways is a wide receiver the
way they used him, he was their first round pick
from a year ago, who they were shocked they were
even to get in the twenties. So they look at
him as a wide receiver tight end hybrid. So they say, okay,
we got him, we got this kid Shakir, and we
lose Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs. I will tell you,
coming back from the combine, if you had asked me
the day after, will Stefan Digs be a Buffalo Bill
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next year. I'd say I doubt that he lasted this long.
Another month after the combine, it just seemed like it
was time from both sides. Another offseason of Dig's cryptic
tweets and days getting a year older. He's gonna be
great in Houston. He's going to be motivated. He's gonna
be wonderful compliment to Nico Collins and Tank Dell. For Buffalo,
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is felt like it was time and they get a
second round pick. They also have a first round pick. Now,
remember this draft, as we get closer and closer, Colin
is really strong at two positions, offensive tackle and wide receiver.
Those are two positions that Buffalo could be looking at.
They bring back Dion Dawkins, of course, but if you
have a first and second round pick now, and then
you have another second round pick and you're looking at
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a wide receiver, rich draft a really deep one where
these guys come in and they're ready to play right away.
That makes it a little easier to digest. It was
a good era for Stefon Diggs in Buffalo. He proved
that he is a number one wide receiver. Sometimes it's time.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
By the way, I got about a minute left. Caitlin Clark,
you have an NFL tie, you thought.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Of, Yes, it's a real tie.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
I was at the Combine two years ago in Iowa's
women's team are staying at the same hotel as me,
and it's the Combine in February, and it's the men's
Big Ten tournament and Kaitlyn Clark is just getting on
the scene, lighten it up, scores about thirty and Big
Ten Tournament team and the entire women's team is in
the lobby, and the sid at Iowa pulls me aside
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and says, you're the host of that morning show on
NFL network. I said sure, and she goes, you're at Fox.
I go, yeah. She goes, you know our star player, Caitlyn.
She's a die hard Chiefs fan. I go, really, she
loves Mahomes. I go, that's amazing. So I get the
woman's information the sid. We exchange information. She puts me
on a text chain with this Caitlyn Clark, who's a
twenty year old phenom, and I'm just like, hey, good
luck this weekend. She goes and scores forty. I eventually
(38:35):
put her on a text chain with Brett Veach, the
general manager of the Chiefs. We're on a text chain,
the three of us. Before every one of these Iowa games,
Veitch and I are texting Caitlin Clark, who's now the
biggest sports star in the world, good luck today, and she's.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like, thanks, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
She's hardcore football fan, loves Patrick Mahomes. They are now
obviously doing insurance commercials at the same company. It's cool
to watch her rise, and I think she represents everything
we love about sports. She works hard, she's relatively humble,
and I think she's self aware and gosh, the sky's
the limit. So if you're asking me who I'm pulling
for the rest of the way, I love this Yukon team.
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I dig the NC State story, and of course South
Carolina those guys are those ladies are juggernauts. But I'm
Caitlin Clark. Let's go team Caitlyn Schreger.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It's oh, all these great insights from Peter Schreger. That
one came out. I like that, and that's the last
thing I thought I'd hear a Caitlyn Clark Mahomes story.
Appreciate it, buddy, You're the man.
Speaker 9 (39:31):
Colin. Thanks always and Jordan keep on kicking butt as well.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
All right, Jordan's hear that our guy Peter Schreger who
is at the Fox Sports and beyond what show he's on,
nobody knows. We're just a very talented guy. So we
have Nick Nurse, coach of the seventy six ers, around
the corner. They've got Joe lmbiidback. You know, Philadelphia is interesting.
They've had a lot of iterations. You know, they've had
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the Ben Simmons and the James Harden and the Doc
Rivers and a lot of people think this is the
best version of it. With Nick Nurse and MBAD and
Maxi and Tobias Harris, they've got some length. So we've
kind of one of those teams. Some teams like Buffalo,
you're like, come on, let's get to a super Bowl.
Some teams like Philadelphia, you're like, it's not a finals thing,
(40:16):
win more playoff series. Is this the best version of
Philadelphia because there's a lot of pieces. Remember Nick Nurse
was in Toronto for those that Raptors Championship teams, so
this is you know, Nick, Nick knows what he's doing.
Really smart guy around the corner, Chris Bruce Chardle joined
us as well. Good stuff. Our number two is on deck.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go. It's a Thursday live in
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of your day. Jordan Schultz filling in for Jmac, who's
back Monday. Both of us off tomorrow, jmax on Vak
with a family, well deserved, Jordan. We've had a busy week.
Stepon Digg's trade was the highlight of it in the NFL.
But now we're going back into the college basketball tournament.
(00:49):
Yukon has landed the plane finally with a mess with
the favorites and the men's and all sorts of stuff.
Now in sports today, we've got the Lakers now are
red hot, but aren't moving up the West. O Tam
and he hits his first home run Big Day.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Three weeks away today from the NFL Draft today.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Can't wait. So let's start with this mark Women's NCAA
Final four tickets are double the price of men's. Now
the men are playing in a much bigger venue, but
nonetheless that is driven by Caitlyn Clark and none other
than Lebron James has been paying attention to it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I don't think there's you know, not much difference between
the men and women game when it comes to college basketball.
I think the popularity comes in is the icons that
they have in a women's game. The IOWA was a
great team, but Clay Kaitlin Clark is the reason we
tuned in. You know, you're going to watch Purdue because
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of Zach Edy because he's a great player. We watched
that Purdue Tennessee game because of Zach Edy and Knect
like like, So let's we don't let's say players depending
on who they are, would drive the attention, you know,
when it comes to viewership.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
No question. Maholmes does the same in the NFL. I
cannot think this morning, I sat down and I went
back ten years. I went back fifteen years to the
last men's college basketball player that was this popular. Now,
Zion was big for about six months. His shoe ripped apart,
but we didn't have a slow bill. It was sort
(02:22):
of like internet phenom Duke Bye Bye. Jimmer Furdett was
an oddity very briefly, but BYU was not a high
profile program and nobody thought he was going to be
great Professionally, JJ Reddick very polarizing for the number one
program in the country, but coach k always took a
(02:42):
lot of oxygen out of the room. There he is.
The brand was the brand of Duke basketball. I'm trying
to think of the last time a men's college basketball
player tripled ratings, tripled, quadrupled ticket prices. And I go
back to a guy I covered I was doing local
in Las Vegas at the time. It's Christian Latner of Duke.
(03:05):
So big program, great looking, beloved, hated tribal feelings all
over the board for him. His team beat many regarded
as the best college basketball team ever in UNLV. Remember
they came back and beat him after the UNLV clobdhom
humiliated Duke in Denver, they came back the next year,
shocked the world and beat him. He had the looks,
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he had the game, and there were other players like
for instance, Shack, but Shack's team didn't do anything in
the tournament, and Latner and Duke played Shack and they
were better. I had to go back thirty three years.
In fact, I was thinking this morning, why some of
it is. She's presently great, Caitlin Clark. She has a past,
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she was great last year, and she has a future.
She'll be the number one pick in the WNBA. Past, present, future.
She's got it all and that matters. There's an arc
to it, like a good movie. Jim or Ferdett was
never going to be a great pro. Zion hasn't been
a great pro, and we didn't talk much about him
in high school. We didn't really care. And in Duke
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it was one big year. In fact, I thought to myself,
the only recent college athlete I can even compare to
Caitlyn Clark, Well, what's the most popular college sports? Football
would be Tim Tebow. She is Tim Tebow. It's mostly
the sport, but something beyond that. She's the feisty Midwestern
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underdog playing for redemption after losing to LSU last year.
Tim Tebow had a very unique game. We're not sure
it was going to win at the pro level, but
he did get drafted in the first he was popular.
Most of it was football, but there was an intensity
with Caitlin Clark and Tibo. There was a passion with
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Caitlin Clark and Tibo. There's a relatability with Caitlin Clark
and t Bow. Not everybody initially gets it with either,
but now everybody's all in. And I think that's the
last time. Christian Latner in ninety ninety one ninety two,
his last couple of years there, he was I mean,
he's the only guy to make the Dream Team upset UNLV,
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part of Duke Cocky, divisive, polarizing, good looking, and he
was at one of the five best college players I've
ever seen. I didn't see Luel Sindra at UCLA, but
or Bill Russell at San Francisco. But Layner was dominant
when toe to toe with Shackan was the better player.
He was a great college player. But Nick Wright talked
about she is also and this helps her. She has
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the same game to a large degree of our most
popular NBA player.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
She is the first person male or female, that has
taken STEP's game and duplicated it to her skill set,
whether it's the kick ahead passing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Whether it is the.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Great court vision or the impossible rain, it is really
special to watch. And it doesn't matter that it's women's basketball.
People love stars and great athletic events, and that crosses
any gender lines.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
There was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Meanwhile, there was a big trade yesterday Stefan Diggs. But
it's just not a receiver going to the Texans. The
Buffalo Bills have a great history in this country of
almost winning super Bowls and never winning super Bowls. Jim Kelly,
Marv Levy, all those years they had to face dynasties,
and now they have to face another, the Kansas City Chiefs,
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and they just lost easily their best skilled player, Stefan Diggs.
We've been waiting for years to figure out who is
going to be Patrick Mahomes, Foyle, Peyton Manning to Brady
Kadi went to the Warriors and beat Lebron Mickelson with
Tiger Lemieu de Gretzky. Who's the foil? It's gonna be
(07:01):
Josh Allen? Initially? Will it be Justin Herbert in division?
Herbert now has lost both of his best receivers, and
so is Josh Allen. This offseason, Burrow probably won't gonna
keep t Higgins and Lamar Jackson's got one star receiver.
He just can't beat Mahomes. Maybe it's c J. Stroud
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with the Texans, but the Bills general manager admitted yesterday
Kansas City keeps winning and the Bills today aren't necessarily
as good a team.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
This is by no means the Bills given up or
trying to take a step back or anything like that.
Everything we do, we're trying to win and we're going
to continue to do that. Are we better today, probably not. Yeah,
it's a work in progress and we're going to continue
to work on that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, we're probably not going to be as good and
last year at home not as good. These Bills over
the last twenty four hours feel like they become the
other Bills who were really, really good, which is usually
good enough unless there's a Tiger or a Brady or
(08:17):
a Tyson in his prime or now a Mahomes. Good
is not good enough. If you told me Chargers Herbert Harbaugh,
Texans Tamiko Ryan, c J. Stroud or Bills Josh Allen,
I'd probably say Buffalo in the next five years would
finish third of those three teams. In teams, I think
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could win a Super Bowl again. Less Miles and ed
Orgeron were good, but not when Nick Saban was in
the division. Rex Ryan was good, but not in the
same division with Bill Belichick. A lot of great golfers
during Tiger's twelve year blitz of the sport, they weren't
(08:59):
good enough. Big Ben It's gonna be a Hall of Famer,
But Brady's prime years when he was rolling, Big Ben
felt small. Houston Rockets beat a lot of teams. Small
ball couldn't beat the Warriors. Good and very good are
often enough to hoist a trophy. They're not with a
legend in the same conference and the best player probably
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in the world, Patrick Mahomes right down the street. And
today the Bills feel a little bit like the Bills
we watched years ago, the second best team for maybe
three quarters of a decade or a decade. All right,
good stuff. Nick Nurse is stopping by. The seventy six
ers have Joe Lmbid back in their head. Coach stops
(09:45):
by in one hour, Peter Scheger joining us, Chris Brussard,
a lot of stuff going on. Shoe a Otani had
his first home run. By the way, I know, it's
already in the baseball season. I know it's early. Oh my,
the Dodgers batting or five runs or more so. I
grew up as a kid that loved baseball in the
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seventies and about the time I started watching TV in
seventy two, seventy three, seventy four. By that time, the
Cincinnati Reds were great, and they had like Rose and
Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench and Ken Griffey Sr. George
Foster and Tony Perez. It was just like leading off
to seven in the order, like Hall of Famers, all great.
(10:27):
That's what the Dodgers look like. The difference is that
Dodgers have it appears to be significantly better talent on
their starting staff. That's around the corner as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
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Speaker 1 (10:46):
All Right, you're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored
by Credible Great Rates. None of the Bulls. Lakers remain
absolutely on fire. They beat Washington last night. They've won
eight of nine. Anthony Davis had another monster night. I've
said for years, last couple of years, I've been very
cool on the Lakers. I think since about January they
look like a team that's the third best in the
(11:08):
league on any given night with Denver, Boston and the Lakers.
They already went to Boston and beat the Celtics without
a D and Lebron. That felt kind of odd, But
I think they would take the Celtics seven games. I
think they're that good. And I think with a D
and Lebron in crunch time against the Celtics team in
the playoffs, in crunch time that's not always delivered, it
(11:28):
would be interesting. But here's how much better the West
is than the East. The Lakers have been on fire
for two months. Two months ago they were ninth in
the West. They've won eight of nine and most even
on fire for two months, there are eleven games over
five hundred. They're still ninth in the West. The bottom
of the Western Conference to me, can compete with the
(11:51):
top of the East. I mean, last night, Cleveland's number
three seed in the East. They got beat by twenty
one by Phoenix, who's an inch above the playing game.
Milwaukee's a strong number two seed in the East. They
got rolled by Memphis last night. That's not going to
make the playoffs in the West by ten. So the
Celtics and the Lakers split their series, and I probably
(12:14):
if he gave me one game, I would take the
Lakers in one game. They don't have the scoring, shooting depth,
but they have Lebron, James and Ad the best defender
in that series, and on any given night, the best
offensive player. And I think a lot of it is
the duo's out West, They're endless. They just I mean,
it's it's Lebron, and it's a D, and it's k D,
(12:36):
and it's Booker, and it's Stephen, it's Stramon, and it's
Paul George and Kawhi and it's Chet Holmgren and it's
Sga and it's Kat if he's healthy, and and Edwards,
and it's Luca and Kyrie and Jamal Murray and Jokic.
And out East you have two of them, Bam Butler
(12:56):
and then Jalen Brown Tatum. But we don't really know
if Dame and Giannis are going to work big in
the playoffs. Do you trust him? I think I think
Philadelphia was playing well and may regain their form. Their
head coach joins us in forty minutes. But I mean,
you go like nine to ten deep. So it just
(13:17):
it's like that's the difference. But the Lakers have been
on fire for two months. They won eight, up nine,
They can't move up. They're still a ninth and that
really is the difference. Last night another monster night, and uh,
you got a little runway here into the playoffs. Here's
Lebron after.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We want to continue to build chemistry, we want to
continue to play good basketball. But the whole season still
kind of waighs. Wait even you know, I know we
only got six games or six games left, five games left.
The whole season prep aught out and stuff is totally
different from the regular season. So wherever we fall is
where we fall and wherever we got to go. If
we have to go on a road, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I said eight and nine, maybe it's eight to
ten for the Lakers really good basketball, but it is.
And the other thing is in the West, you know,
iron sharpens iron. What's interesting is the Celtics have had
so many blowout wins. Think about this. The Celtics have
had as many twenty plus wins against the East as
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they have losses against the East. And you could say, oh,
you can rest your starters. Go look at the history
of sports. AFC teams Brady and New England, Flacco and
the Ravens, Mahomes and the Chiefs come out of the
tougher AFC. They're sharper. The SEC teams they'd go play
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remember you know SEC team. Oh, big twelve teams, undefeated
forty five a game, Big ten team blowing past people.
A couple of years ago, Michigan had one close game,
I think it was the year before this past year.
One close game all season Illinois, and then they got
upset when they played TCU. They just weren't used to
the number of close games. Boston's got no close games.
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They've split with the Lakers, they can't beat Denver, and
so the Western Conference. I'm I'm a believer in you know,
iron sharpens iron. I don't care how tough the division is.
When the Rams won the Super Bowl, they had to
face San Francisco twice. You know, you had Russell Wilson back.
I believe with the Seahawks. Still, the division was crazy,
crazy competitive. All right, here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, no, no, the news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
This is the herd Line news. All right, Colin, this
is quite interesting to me. Caleb Williams, I reported this morning,
had his visit, his only visit potentially with the Chicago Bears.
Toured Hallis Hall, the legendary Hallis Hall. I'm told he
made an excellent impression. Was present, was not a diva
at all. New Everyone's name was just over the top impressive.
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They had steak dinner the night before, Chicago famous for that.
This should solidify him as the topic in the draft.
We also have, as I just reported, Robo Dune's visiting
the Bears today. Now Chicago not only has the first
pick Colin, but the ninth pick. How about a little
Caleb Williams to Odoonza in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think they'd prefer although they may take Odonza, they'd
prefer to move the ninth pick down, get more picks
and get a defensive player. Matt Iberflus was quoted yesterday
saying we need a one to two punch on the
defensive line. This is something I've speculated for two weeks.
A coach makes more than a GM. Usually, although eber
Flus doesn't have a lot of power in the building
right now. Generally a coach will pound the table and
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you got to get me one of my guys. McVeigh.
If it's pushed a shove is going to get a
back or a receiver early in this draft. Once they
get a defensive tackle and an edge rusher. So I
do think eber Flues is saying, listen, you went and
got Keenan, DeAndre Swift, Gerald Everett. You getta get Caleb Williams.
You've taken a lot of picks on the offensive line.
I got Montes Sweat in a good corner. You got
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to give me another pass rusher. For the record, I
think they need that in Chicago more than Romadunze. Whereas
the Giants and the Jets and the Chargers, there's a
lot of teams that need receivers. Move down a little
bit to me for Chicago, accumulate other picks, they'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You mentioned Dallas Turner yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You like him to Atlanta. That seems like the two
obvious picks besides Caleb Williams. Joe All goes to the Titans. Fels, Yeah,
left tackle. They have terrible old line. Any young quarterback
needs time and an edge rusher to Atlanta Dallas Turner
because they do everything offensively. Once Kirk Cousins came into town.
Now they just got to get a pass rush. So
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those there's three picks in the first round. That feels
solid all to the Titans, Dallas, Turner, Atlanta, the Bears.
Now again, I could see Tennessee going down in Atlanta
going down and saying we'll address that at the fifteenth
pick instead of now in getting more players. But Atlanta,
I think is ready to win the division if they
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can generate any pass rush out of this draft.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I agree, Atlanta's right there. They get Kirk, they have
the running back, they have weapons, I agree. Next up,
the Dallas Cowboys Colin have been eerily quiet this offseason. Now,
of course, Dak Prescott's contract has been a big factor
in their lack of spending. Mike Sandel of the Athletics
spoke to an anonymous NFL EXECU who said, quote, the
quarterback contract has put the handcuffs on them. They have
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a talented roster already. They're going to have some big
extensions coming with Ceedee Lamb and others. Of course, Michael Parsons,
so I can see why you might want to keep
your hands in your pockets. Now, we talked about Dak
he has a near sixty million dollar CAF hit next
or this off this season. Not to mention no trade,
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no tag, Claw has got all the leverage. This is
an odd situation brewing in VD.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If a rival executive says that, don't you think the
Cowboys see the books? So I mean, like this is
it's one of those things where I think Dallas Cowboy
fans are realistic. You know, every time I've been a
Cowboy fan, the one ones I meet are always like, yeah,
we get it. You know, Dak should be a forty
eight million dollar quarterback, not a sixty That twelve million
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dollars has two players that's a number two corner, that's
another top receiver. So yeah, I just Dallas is not
I would do exactly what Jerry's doing. This is exactly
what I would do play through the contract. Because my
take is if you look at Green Bay and Detroit
rosters and San Francisco's and potentially the Rams after this
draft and Philadelphia, Dallas has at best the fifth or
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sixth best NFC roster because they can make no moves
in free agency. They need to hit on like three
draft picks hit on them, and one of them's receiver.
Another could be tight end, like they've they've got real
needs here.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
But what if Dak goes to free agency in a year,
he's thirty one and you lose him. So the alternative,
I know Dak's not perfect, but the alternative is not
exactly peaches either, because to lose Dak could be catastrophic
if they're trying to win right now.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No catastrophic losing Mahomes. Unfortunate is losing Dak. You know
you don't have any trophies. Catastrophic is losing Josh Allen
Patrick Mahomes, like McVeigh retires. Okay, yeah, like that's catastrophe. Bad. Yeah,
the NFL is full of bad.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Fair enough, Okay, And finally to the NBA, where the
Celtics defeated Okay, see one five, one hundred. Last night,
Boston clinches the league's best record calling in home field
or home court advantage throughout the playoffs. After the game,
head coach Joe Mozula talked about their accomplishment. It's very
hard to do.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
You know, we may never be in this position again,
so you don't want to take it for granted. So yeah,
we definitely talked about it as a team talked about
it before the game, Uh, trying to treat this game
as like the clincher, so that to kind of put
that on ourselves to be able to do that. I
think it was important for us to simulate that. And
you know, it's just a testament to the guys, and
so we should enjoy it tonight and we wake up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, nobody cares Colin Oh go ah, I watched
most of that game. Okayc He's gonna be fun. I
don't think they're gonna last long in the playoff. They'll
be at one of those classic remember the Bulls Derreck
Rose team, where you knew they were good, you knew
they win a playoff series, you knew they were viable,
but you never really thought they were a championship team
because Lebron was in the conference. Celtics were good. I
think at the time I kind of feel that with Okay,
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see they're a year away. They'll win. You know, they're
gonna win probably unless they match that with the Lakers.
I take la they're gonna win a playoff series. But
when you watch them, I just it's so funny to
watch them play because all the players look twenty one
years old. They're basically the same age as the North
Carolina tar Heels. They're like twenty two and a half
years old. They look like when you watch them, it's
like I'm watching a college team. So I you know,
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when you watch the Celtics, you got Porzingis, you've got
older players. That was an experience matchup more than anything.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, how about this. By the way, Colin the second
place Bucks are a whopping thirteen games behind the Celtics
in the East. By comparison, We've talked about the West
all week. The Warriors are tenth in the West, but
only eleven and a half games behind first.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, and we've we've discussed this. I don't know exactly
why the West is so significantly better, but if Denver
wins the title again, we will have had four dynasties
since Jordan all out West. I don't really consider the
Heatles got to four finals one to two, needed a
shot to win two of four from Ray Allen. But
(22:24):
in the end that felt so much just about Lebron.
They didn't have a classic point guard, they didn't have
any size. It was kind of spulster Lebron Wade and
figured it out, but uh, yeah, I mean the West,
it's different. It's like SEC football. Until recently, until the
last couple of years, felt like just better than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You mentioned Chicago earlier with d Rose, Jokim Noah. I
tell you why. I like, Okay, see this year to
go far Sga and Chet that's that's better than d
Ros and Noah were.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Offensively they're elite, but they just they're so young. NBA
playoff history. Young guys don't win, they don't manipulate the refs,
they don't get the car you Yokurry Yokich had been
around a while, Gordon had been around a while. Porter,
Yeah you had yet Brown off the bench was young.
But Casey's b has been around for a while. That
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staff had been around for a while. They've been through
some NBA playoff stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Jordan with a news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So, uh, you know, years ago when I was at
the other place, Uh, they used to call it the
Hot Stove League, but it was basically the Yankees and
the Red Sox and mostly the Yankees just buying the
best players.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And now people sort of complained, well, dodgerge Garrett Coles,
the Yankee Jon Soto went to the Yankees. The Mets
spent a fortune last year, so did the Podres. In fact,
last year, money doesn't guarantee anything. The three biggest payrolls
last year, I believe, with the Mets, Podrais and Yankees
none made the playoffs. It's not about being rich. How
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do you spend the money? Game day revenue for the
Jets and the Giants and the Bears in Washington, Let's
just say the Jets of the Giants, the Bears game
day revenue is massive. It's also massive for the Philadelphia Eagles.
They know how to spend it. New York's teams now
are almost all bad. They have huge revenue, huge cable deals,
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huge ticket prices, beer prices, game day revenue.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So what.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, the Dodgers have a lot of money, but they're
also creative their research and development. They just don't miss
on minor leaguers. They find discarded bullpen guys from other
teams and make them good and move them off and
get more picks for players. Players. So last night, Shoheo
Tani his first home run here.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It is.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Three one.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Stuck.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The only team. It was my favorite team growing up.
I said this earlier that I think compares to this
team offensively is the seventy five seventy six Cincinnati Reds.
The Dodgers right now lead baseball and virtually everything including walks, RBIs, hits,
home runs average. Their batting average is two eighty. The
league average will probably end up closer to two fifty.
(25:20):
Right now. I think it's like two forty five. And
this isn't even the time of the year when guys
hit because it's cold out. Ball carries better in the summer.
Hands are warmer. Guys hit better in May, June, July,
and August. So you have to eliminate. Is this the
best batting order since nineteen seventy six? So we know
the seventy six team was not on steroids, and it's
(25:41):
a cleaner sport now than it's ever been. What they're
gambling on on don't know, but clean in terms of steroids.
But you got to take out ninety four to two
thousand and four Cleveland Indians. Manny can't count it the
Mariners where like Brett Brett Boone became Babe Ruth can't
count it the night the Texas Rangers in the mid nineties.
I mean, you might as well have had needles in
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the dugout. Give me a break. You can't count those teams.
You got to go back to the seventies and an eighties,
and you got to go to this team in terms
of a batting order. And it's not just money. In fact,
right now they're hitting I said two to eighty. They're
hitting two ninety four. That's insane, nobody. You don't really
hit well out of the shoot in baseball. It's chili.
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Your hands are cold, the ball didn't carry as well
in You know, wetter Weather h hitting two ninety four
and the average today is too culture to two forty four.
So I think it's the best most productive freeman bets
and their staff is deep. And again I'll go back
to this, it's not just no Yankee fans were complaining
(26:44):
when you were buying all the players twenty years ago.
I didn't hear anybody complaining. I didn't hear a Red
Sox fan complaining. I didn't hear a Yankee fan complaining.
It's not just that three biggest payrolls last year did
not win. They're more creative in LA with their money.
I mean, go look at the Mookie Bets deal. Now,
it's like they stolen. They find bullpen guys from other
teams that have been discarded. When they bring guys up
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from the miners, they almost always hit. So it's it's
they they play and spend like a big market team.
They draft and develop like a small market team. And
it's like, uh, you know, it'd be like a big
action movie winning an Oscar and being popular but also
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winning for Best Screenplay. Like it's all of the above.
It's big, it's rich, it's really smart and thoughtful, and
uh yeah to ninety four that that's uh. And this again,
I'm not counting that ninety four to two thousand and
four where you know it may it started with Kenseko
ken Caminiti. It went on, and that started with hitters,
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and then it was pitchers and it was like, you know,
the Balco stuff. I'm not counting anything. For ten years,
a lot of guys had insane years. The numbers popped.
I'm not you know, pointing to any fingers here, but
none of that stuff's gonna count. We're just not gonna
count that stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Brady Anderson fifty homers, that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
One yeoh, and it was weird because that I always
felt that was a bit pre like movie.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It was.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It was right on the precipice. It was very very early,
but it was I mean, I saw a lot of guys.
My Mariner team had guys having career years, and it's like, okay,
I can be honest about it. But it's just sort
of like we have to be honest about Like the
John Wooden era in college basketball, well, they had a
booster that was buying the best players. Like it's legendarily
known now every Bobby Knight, for all his vulnerabilities flaws,
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the late Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight never paid for players.
You didn't have to like Bobby Knight. Not my cup
of tea, not a fan at all. Thought he was
a hypocrite, you know, But Bobby didn't pay for players.
The John Wooden teams paid for players. All right, that's okay, whatever,
we can talk about it, but you gotta be honest
about baseball. The steroid stuff is much more monitored. It's
not happening now. And it's Dodger team. It's not just
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the money, it's they spend it very effectively. They're the
innovators on this They just signed in the catcher contract.
Now they push that money all in the future as well.
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Caleb Williams met with the Bears.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Funny is I've known Caleb for about, you know, a
couple of years. Multiple opportunities to meet him always classy,
always smart, always thoughtful, good sense of humor. But it's
amazing in this day and age. You know, it could
be Angel Rees, it could be Caleb Williams. You say
one or two things on television and people make this
big judgment on who you are, and it's like, well,
that's not necessarily fair. Who you are can't be defined
(30:23):
by running up and hugging your mom or putting something
on your fingernails or a little trash talking to basketball
for that's not who anybody is. It's just a moment
in time. So I like Caleb. I met him multiple times.
What did you hear about the meeting with Chicago?
Speaker 9 (30:36):
I like Caleb too. I got a chance to speak
with him at let at the combine where I had
a tweet that went out that went viral in a
way that I didn't expect he would. And it was
just that he didn't compete in any of the drills
on Saturday, But when all the quarterbacks and wide receivers
were done, I watched as I was on the field
in Indianapolis, Caleb Williams go over and shake and thank
every single person who worked the event from the NFL
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side and from the Lucas Oil Stadium side all the
workers at the stadium and just thank them, and he
was the last person to leave. And of course that
goes viral and everyone's like, oh, he was acting. I
don't think it is. I don't think he is acting.
So the Bears have now had two dinners with Caleb Williams.
Let me explain them. The pro day, which was a
couple of weeks ago, they took him to a place
called Bird Streets in Los Angeles, which is a private
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members club and it is the h Wood Group which
does Delilah and nice Guy, and they had him there
and it was kind of cool for the Bears guys,
and I spoke to sources there to see how Caleb
kind of operates in that La scene. So at that
dinner there there at a table, but there's also celebrities.
I think Quabo from the Migos was there, Cuevo from
(31:39):
the Amigos and Jamie Fox was there, and like just
seeing how Caleb's comfort level was. And you know, the
one thing that the Bears have told me and that
interaction was he moves quietly.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He's not a look at me guy.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
If anything, He's kind of quiet and a little bit
more reserved than you would imagine from the highs trophy,
number one overall pick who made all this nil money.
So they loved their meeting with him there. They loved
their combine experience with him. And then they had him
in to Lake Forest, which is where the Bears facility is,
Hallis Hall. They took him to a place called Sophia's
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Steak two nights ago, which is not Chicago cut, it's
not Gibson's, it's not as Chicago. It's more in the burbs,
and it was interesting. They said they loved watching Caleb
interact with their people on their turf. Then they had
him in Hallis Hall yesterday and he was fantastic. One
thing to note, Dallas Turner, the star pass rusher from Alabama,
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who is also going to be a top ten pick,
was in the building also and it was cool to
see them interact a little bit. Here's the defensive player,
here's Caleb. The Bears also have the ninth overall pick.
They're gonna meet with all the top prospects, but Caleb
Williams has checked every box for the Chicago Bears, and
I would be beyond shocked if he's not the first
overall pick.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We largely acknowledge that McVeigh and the Red Sean Peyton,
Kyle Shanahan. We kind of know who the big dogs
are offensively coaching in this league. I think Kevin Stefanski
should be near that group. And I think Kevin O'Connell
is the rising star. He's the McVeigh. He just hasn't
had the star quarterback. He hasn't had the stafford yet.
(33:14):
I could argue Golf's better than Kirk Cousins is a
prospect as a talent. And so I really do think
they're moving up. I said yesterday, I think everybody should
move down, whereas I think Atlanta, Tennessee, Chicago should stay put.
And then I looked at Minnesota and I'm like, I'd
move up, And so do you believe they will? And
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do you believe they've already decided shrikes, They've made their
call in the building. They're not going to tell us
who their quarterback is.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Well, they've done a couple of things quietly. They acquired
the twenty third overall pick also in a trade with Houston,
which gives them ammo if they want to say, let's
package the eleven and the twenty three, we can move
up to the top five. Perhaps they also the darnoalds
is interesting because I'll tell you this, there were other
teams interested in Donald Washington being one of them, and
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Washington ended up with Mariota and Washington's a number two
overall pick, but Darnald chose chose to go to Minnesota
with other options where he could have been competing for
a starting job. Also, but I think the fact that
it was a one year deal tells Darnald that, hey,
there's also going to be someone else coming. So at eleven,
did they get the prize pick?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
No?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
But if they package eleven and twenty three, can they
move up?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Sure.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
I think Minnesota is a team to watch for sure,
and that's an obvious one. I think Denver's a team
to watch. I've told this story before, but I'll just
bring you in on it. You know, Sean Payton and
I worked together on that Fox NFL kickoff show. He
became a dear friend. He's fantastic and one of the
stories he's told me multiple times is that he had
every intention of drafting Patrick Mahomes eleventh overall in the
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twenty seventeen NFL draft. Or twenty eighteen NFL Draft. He
wanted Mahomes. He even told Breeze ahead of time, like,
we're going to be doing this deal. If Mahomes slips there,
Andy Reid jumped right above him one spot, and he's
always wondered what if. I don't think Sean Payton wants
to be caught with his hands tied again and say,
oh my gosh if I just had traded up and
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had just gotten our guy. So I think the Broncos
are a team to watch if they can find themo.
But the team that I keep hearing over and over
and over again is that thirteen spot. The Raiders and
a quarterback, very specifically Jaden Daniels, and the reason being
the amazing relationship Antonio Pierce, their head coach as with
Jaden Daniels. Those two were together at Arizona State. Antonio Pierce,
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of course an assistant coach to HERM Edwards, and Jaden
Daniels their star quarterback. They have a real bond and
a real relationship. Tom Telesco a guy that you and
I both respect the hell out of. Does he have
what it takes to move up and somehow get to
the two spot or the three spots to get Jayden Daniels.
It might be just too high in the draft to
go and get him, but I could tell you the
Raiders would be a prime team to move up and
get that player if he was available.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Stefan Diggs move great for Houston when you got the
quarterback on the Rocky pay scale. I don't love it.
Sean mcdermot's taken years to figure out the run game.
Now he's got to re event the perimeter passing game
in a draft, and again it took him forever to
get the running back right.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
They have upgraded at tight end, but Buffalo to me
doesn't feel as good as last year. What say you
on that?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Well, Kincaid in a ways is a wide receiver the
way they used him, he was their first round pick
from a year ago, who they were shocked they were
even to get in the twenties. So they look at
him as a wide receiver tight end hybrid. So they say, okay,
we got him, we got this kid Shakir, and we
lose Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs. I will tell you,
coming back from the combine, if you had asked me
the day after, will Stefan Digs be a Buffalo Bill
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next year. I'd say I doubt that he lasted this long.
Another month after the combine, it just seemed like it
was time from both sides. Another offseason of Dig's cryptic
tweets and days getting a year older. He's gonna be
great in Houston. He's going to be motivated. He's gonna
be wonderful compliment to Nico Collins and Tank Dell. For Buffalo,
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is felt like it was time and they get a
second round pick. They also have a first round pick. Now,
remember this draft, as we get closer and closer, Colin
is really strong at two positions, offensive tackle and wide receiver.
Those are two positions that Buffalo could be looking at.
They bring back Dion Dawkins, of course, but if you
have a first and second round pick now, and then
you have another second round pick and you're looking at
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a wide receiver, rich draft a really deep one where
these guys come in and they're ready to play right away.
That makes it a little easier to digest. It was
a good era for Stefon Diggs in Buffalo. He proved
that he is a number one wide receiver. Sometimes it's time.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
By the way, I got about a minute left. Caitlin Clark,
you have an NFL tie, you thought.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Of, Yes, it's a real tie.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
I was at the Combine two years ago in Iowa's
women's team are staying at the same hotel as me,
and it's the Combine in February, and it's the men's
Big Ten tournament and Kaitlyn Clark is just getting on
the scene, lighten it up, scores about thirty and Big
Ten Tournament team and the entire women's team is in
the lobby, and the sid at Iowa pulls me aside
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and says, you're the host of that morning show on
NFL network. I said sure, and she goes, you're at Fox.
I go, yeah. She goes, you know our star player, Caitlyn.
She's a die hard Chiefs fan. I go, really, she
loves Mahomes. I go, that's amazing. So I get the
woman's information the sid. We exchange information. She puts me
on a text chain with this Caitlyn Clark, who's a
twenty year old phenom, and I'm just like, hey, good
luck this weekend. She goes and scores forty. I eventually
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put her on a text chain with Brett Veach, the
general manager of the Chiefs. We're on a text chain,
the three of us. Before every one of these Iowa games,
Veitch and I are texting Caitlin Clark, who's now the
biggest sports star in the world, good luck today, and she's.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like, thanks, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
She's hardcore football fan, loves Patrick Mahomes. They are now
obviously doing insurance commercials at the same company. It's cool
to watch her rise, and I think she represents everything
we love about sports. She works hard, she's relatively humble,
and I think she's self aware and gosh, the sky's
the limit. So if you're asking me who I'm pulling
for the rest of the way, I love this Yukon team.
(39:11):
I dig the NC State story, and of course South
Carolina those guys are those ladies are juggernauts. But I'm
Caitlin Clark. Let's go team Caitlyn Schreger.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It's oh, all these great insights from Peter Schreger. That
one came out. I like that, and that's the last
thing I thought I'd hear a Caitlyn Clark Mahomes story.
Appreciate it, buddy, You're the man.
Speaker 9 (39:31):
Colin. Thanks always and Jordan keep on kicking butt as well.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
All right, Jordan's hear that our guy Peter Schreger who
is at the Fox Sports and beyond what show he's on,
nobody knows. We're just a very talented guy. So we
have Nick Nurse, coach of the seventy six ers, around
the corner. They've got Joe lmbiidback. You know, Philadelphia is interesting.
They've had a lot of iterations. You know, they've had
(39:56):
the Ben Simmons and the James Harden and the Doc
Rivers and a lot of people think this is the
best version of it. With Nick Nurse and MBAD and
Maxi and Tobias Harris, they've got some length. So we've
kind of one of those teams. Some teams like Buffalo,
you're like, come on, let's get to a super Bowl.
Some teams like Philadelphia, you're like, it's not a finals thing,
(40:16):
win more playoff series. Is this the best version of
Philadelphia because there's a lot of pieces. Remember Nick Nurse
was in Toronto for those that Raptors Championship teams, so
this is you know, Nick, Nick knows what he's doing.
Really smart guy around the corner, Chris Bruce Chardle joined
us as well. Good stuff. Our number two is on deck.
(40:38):
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