April 9, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin credits UConn for building their program the right way after becoming the first team in 17 years to win back-to-back National Championships
He believes Purdue big man Zach Edey proved himself to be a worthy NBA player after another dominant season
Thoughts on John Calipari leaving Kentucky for Arkansas
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on a Tuesday, and our headline is
one you've heard several times. Yukon national champs in basketball,
this time in men's, often in men's and women's. It's
the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may
be listening, Thanks for making us part of your day.
Nick right one hour from now. Jamak having lived around
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the program for years and for a decade, all my
friends in that area being diehard Yukon fans, you have
that proximity to a program, just like living in LA
and we know a lot of people that work for
you know, the Lakers or the Rams or the Chargers.
I've got to be honest. We're not supposed to root
in this business, but I like watching Yukon crush. I
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like watching Yukon basketball. My wife asked me, She said,
was the game any good last night, I said it
was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, made money on Yukon, easy winner.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. Nothing against Purdue, but
they didn't stand a chance. Nobody the last two years
seemingly does. In the American basketball culture, which is absolutely, unequivocally,
inarguably fallen behind Europe's, which often in America celebrates the
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wrong thing that coddles more than develops. It's very, very
difficult to stay focused and fight through that American basketball culture,
and Yukon does better than everybody. They keep basketball the
main thing. They grind their players, hold them accountable. Yet
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the players love it. The players lean into it because
great players in great programs want to be coached hard.
Yukon stands alone at the top of college basketball's mountain,
six titles twenty five years. Everything in their program is
done right. They use the NIL and the transfer portal,
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but they don't rely on it. Their coaching is probably
the best in the country. They play tough, physical basketball,
old biggie style. They can have old school centers and
new school guards and wings. Everything they do is the
way college basketball, and I think America really likes it.
Some old school and some three pointers. It is a
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complete letless program, and Dan Hurley the coach, is the
perfect guy, authentic, just archy East Coast enough, fits the
program and the culture. Absolutely committed in a world of TikTok,
in a world of a lot of sizzleover substance, in
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a world of headlines over actually reading the article. Yukon
is the movie Oppenheimer, a historic three hour movie about
the Adam Baum and it swept through the awards. Barbie
was cute, fun, people dressed up silly. No big, splashy
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adventure movie, no big movie star, former wrestler, nothing against rock.
But the reality is Yukon Basketball is a serious program
that attracts serious people to its program, and Dan Hurley's
perfect for that. He's not worried about how he looks
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his hoodie in his office. The first big shot of
the second half. Yukon never loses when they lead it half. Ever,
they were forty seven to zero going into the last
night's game when they led thirty six thirty at half,
Newton comes down hits a three and I'm thinking thirty
nine thirty, it's over. We're just playing out the string here.
It's over. The game's officially over. And that's the way
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it is against Yukon most of the last two years.
Maybe this program it just maybe it wouldn't work out West,
we have our good weather and options. Maybe it wouldn't
work in the south of the Midwest, but it works
in the East. It works in Connecticut, it works in stores.
I mean, outside of Zach Edy, no other player thed
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you know five points was your next big score for Purdue.
I believe, and I don't blame them. Zach Edy's great,
He's fantastic. I'll get to him in a second. But
what you're watching is a combination of old school basketba
old school coaching, but new schools smart, using the portal,
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using NIL, a lot of transfers here but not depending
on it. I think it's a joy to watch. Maybe
it's because I lived there for ten years, but I
know how much it means to the area. And it's
just a relentless program that squeezes every ounce of talent
out of every coach, out of every player, out of
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every transfer. Serious people like serious companies and programs, and
that's what Yucon's all about. And Dan Hurley saying we
are different.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
After I just think it's it's the best two year
run I think in a very very long time, just
because of everything we lost from last year's team. To
lose that much and again to do what we did again,
you know, it's got to be as too. Is impressive
two year run as the program's had since prior to
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whoever did it before Duke. To me, it is more
impressive than what Florida and Duke did because they brought
back their entire teams.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Now to Zach Edy produced dominant seven foot four center
who had another dominating night. And I was thinking about
what Dan Hurley said on our show about a week ago.
If Zach Edy doesn't work in the NBA, maybe that's
why the NBA has lost half its audience since Michael
Jordan retired. Every team in the NBA uses the same analytics,
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the same data. They play the exact same way esthetically,
kind of boring dunksan threes. That's it. The American audience
told you men's and women's college basketball, we like some
old school stuff. Caitlin Clark does she feel like Hoosier's
the underdog. Zach Edy feels like, you know, old school centers.
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Everybody in the NBA plays same way and that Minnesota.
The Timberwolves said, no, we're not going to do that.
We're gonna get two seven footers, and the t Wolves
are the number one seed in the West. They broke
through by the way. Spurs did this once, David Robinson,
Tim Duncan, Houston did this. A Keeman Ralph Sampson Minnesota
said no, we're not We're not just gonna do the
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small ball thing. We're gonna go the opposite. We're gonna
get Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony Towns. I mean, let
me ask you this. Zach Edie got two Yukon bigs
in foul trouble all night, scored thirty seven points against
the guy that's going to go in the NBA draft.
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Is every big in the NBA scoring thirty seven last night?
Zu Bots who averages twelve game for the Clippers old
school center, You think he scored thirty seven last night
and getting both of Yukon bigs in foul trouble. I mean,
I don't know. I watched that game. Nobody's blocking that shot.
Seven foot four, three hundred pounds and the dude is ripped.
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He played more minutes than anybody in the tournament. That's
not that there are abs. He is a seven foot
four guy, three hundred pounds with abs. He is ripped.
He's not going anywhere. Well, he can't defend the wing.
Is Anthony Davis a great wing defender, or all these
bigs in the NBA outside of Wemby great wing defenders.
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I don't know. But in the NBA, and I've heard
people in the league complain about this, every team uses
the same data and the same analytics, and it's like
Denver's better than everybody. And before that, Golden State was
better than everybody. Minnesota said we're gonna try something new.
We're gonna go with bigs. One guy doesn't even score much,
Rudy Gobert. The other guy's a little flaky. Karl Anthony Towns.
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They're the number one seed in the West, and that's
what Karl Anthony Town's hurt. Hopefully coming back. So I
don't know. I look at Zach Edy, driven, tough, smart, finishes,
block shots. I mean, it's like Caitlin Clark. Don't judge
Caitlin Clark and Zach Edy on the final college basketball
game they play and they lost. They're just different. They
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look different, and again Zach Edy last year. I remember
when Tim Tebow was in college and I watched him
as an underclassman, and then I watched him his final year,
and it was the same guy. It was the same game,
slow delivery, didn't have a great arm raw raw optimism.
It was the same guy. Zach Eaty's not the same
player he was a year ago. He's not. He's a
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better finisher, he's in better shape, he's more relentless. I mean,
how many players have won multiple Nasmiths, Bill Walton, Ralph Samson,
Zach Edie. It says something, doesn't it here? He was
after the loss.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You can say whatever you want about me. You can
say however I play, you can say whatever, but you
can never say that I didn't give it one hundred
percent every single time I stepped on the floor, every
single time I went in practice. And that's that's what
I always hang my hat on. I kind of I
came in than I never didn't give it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dan Hurley's his game plan was, yeah, we're not going
to be able to stop him, and they've got an
NBA center. Mark Few came on this show and said,
I've been doing this twenty five years, I've never faced
anybody like that. We can't stop him, really, I mean
when Dan Hurley acknowledges, stop the other guys, we've got
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an NBA center. Just stop the other guys. He's gonna
get his forty. I don't know. Hurley said it a
week ago. If he doesn't make the NBA, this is
supposed to be the weakest draft ever, like the Anthony
Bennett draft. And you're telling me he can't be a
top fifteen pick. I don't get it. Like if the
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audience is telling you we like basketball, we just don't
want everything to be a three or a dunk. Michael
Jordan was a mid range player. Magic Johnson wasn't a
great shooter. Lebron's hot and cold. Yes, Steph Curry is,
but I don't know. When I watch Zach Edy at
seven to four against NBA guys getting him all in
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foul trouble and dropping thirty seven, and Mark Fus like, yeah,
there's just orting no way to defend him. I can't
believe there's not a spot in pro basketball for him. Somewhere.
There are old school centers playing right now in the
NBA averaging double figures. He can be one of them. Jamack,
you're rolling your eyes at Zach Edye the optimism coward.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh my, this might be a top five hottest take
since I joined the show, like two years ago or
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You don't think he's a top fifteen pick.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, hold on, Ronnie James, we need an hour on
this man.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ronnie James averages four a game. He's gonna get drafted.
This guy drops thirty five against NBA bigs and he's
not drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Roddy's going in the second round, though, But I.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Mean, this is the weakest draft. They're saying, there's not
an American player in the top four. He can't go fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, I don't think he's gonna go fifteen. He's
very good player. Do you have many assists he had
last night?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not zero?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
None?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I don't rely on my center to get all
my assists.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But that's why Jokic is so spec.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Jokic is the world's best player. I'm not asking Zach
Edie to be the world's best player. I'm saying in
the weakest draft maybe ever. And that's what people are saying.
This rival is the Anthony Bennett draft, where the best
player was Jannis.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And he went like fifty. That's fair, Okaya.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Rudy Gobert was the second best player in that draft.
He went at the end of the first I believe
this is a terrible draft that got the most dominant.
Tim Tebow went in the first round on a playoff game.
You're not even close to this dominant.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I just I looked at all those buckets he had
last night, A lot of two pointers, did really, really well,
and they still got smoked because three is more than two.
And that's why the.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Way they got smoked, because Yukon is easily. Yukon's smoking everybody.
I mean, they're blowing their average win over the last
two years is what twenty one two.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They're dominant, but I mean three being more than two.
I like what Edie did last night was great, but
I wonder if that's a blueprint Colin for the Lakers
when they play Yokis, Hey, Joki, you can have fifty points. Well,
I'm not saying I'm not giving anything to me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not saying build my entire franchise around Zach Edy.
I'm saying when I face Jokic and I'm the Warriors
and just don't match up. I'd like a seven foot
four big who can at least defend when I face
go Bear in Towns or Davis, and I'm the Warriors,
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and I don't match up with Denver Minnesota or the
Lakers at all. I contend if the Lakers played Golden State,
it's a nightmare matchup. The Tea Wolves will privately tell
you they do not want to face the Lakers. So
the Warriors don't match up with the Celtics, they don't
match up with the Lakers, Denver Minnesota. You don't think
a seven to four guy who can give you twelve
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to thirteen a game and block shots has value.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I would take an upside guy in the top fifteen,
and I would take Edie yet early second round. I
think he's got great value. Like Zubats who you referenced.
Zubot went thirty second overall. First two years. He was
like in the G League, and then all of a
sudden he starts to grow a development popping. Now he's
a sir you Mike gar Joki in the playoffs. But
that's in like year six seven. You can't drafted the
top fifteen colin I like. I like him a lot
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now Klingon's interesting. I thought he defended eating.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You mean the guy that was in foul trouble the
entire night, that couldn't really score. So you liked the
guy that couldn't score from Bristol, Connecticut, that was in
foul trouble over the guy that dominated the tournament.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I bet I bet the clinging under thirteen and a
half points easily cast.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, so did I? Okay, I knew he was gonna
get shut down.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You don't like clinging that much.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think he's fine. I don't think he's historically great.
I would take Zach Edie in the NBA over clinging.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Clinging. Huh.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He was clinging to Zach Edie's shoulder as he fouled
him time and time again. I thought he was clinging
due m. I don't know, Like sometimes my eyes don't lie.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, you remember Clint Cappella rim running dunking machine. Rock
gets talks like Klingon is him on steroids? Like Klingon
is seven too? Super?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I like Klingon, nice player. I like Yukon period. I'm
not saying that. Yeah, but I'm watching Zach Edy today
and I watched him last year, and new information new opinion.
Last year, I did not think he looked like this.
I thought he was good. He was a good player.
He looks stronger, he's more forceful, he's more intimidating.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Didn't you think this was like a half court game
last night? NBA is longer forty eight minutes versus forty Yeah,
but why way more possession?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Watch the playoffs in the NBA, it gets very half court.
All these one thirty one, one twenty eight, they all
evaporated the play.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And you know who's been played off the court in
the playoffs, Rudy Gobert. They gotta put him on the
bench because he can't defend the pick and roll, and
he offensively, he's kind of a liability. So that's interesting.
Can you put on your GM hat and you want
to take Zach edy tough fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
In the weakest draft maybe ever? I can take him
in the top fifty, especially if I'm a team that
has to face a poor Zingis or a Yannis or
an Embiid or a Yokice, and I got a bunch
of wings who can't defend them. Give me a big
I know. I'll tell you this. Esthetically, I like watching
the college game. I liked watching the women and the
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men college over the NBA. Sometimes I get I get
a lot of different looks offensively.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Let's win for the playoffs, and then you'll know.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You and I, boy, we both love the NBA playoffs.
I love the NBA playoffs. I'm not banging on the NBA.
I'm an NBA package guy. I watch the games. I'm
in tonight, Warriors Lakers. I'm glued into that game.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
By the way, Sun's paper clips, Tonight is a really
good game. I think Celtics Bucks that it's a great
night for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Great night, and Zach Edy on those great nights will
be part of those teams in one year.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
By the way, my buddy may have an extra ticket
to Lakers Warriors if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's interesting. Okay, I'd be interested in that tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, I I got the ok from the wife, so
I'm good to sea.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay, I'll go tonight. Really, is it a good seat?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's a good seat, not great seat, but it's a
good seat.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, what does that mean.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We'll talk about it during the break. It's a good seat.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't do Low's seating.
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, we were talking about Zach Edy during the break.
So he had thirty seven points, one other guy for
Purdue had like twelve, and then nobody else ready scored.
And so think about brook Lopez for Milwaukee, who's a
very very good player, good BB plus player. When brook
Lopez came into the NBA, you know, you kind of
thought of him as a big guy, kind of a plotter.
He didn't shoot from the perimeter at all, and now
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he's a regular three point shooter. Go look at his
first five years in the league, Go look at the stats,
google it, and brook Lopez wasn't the guy shooting or
making threes. Now he is a guy so like Zach Eat,
he's probably never going to be And for the record,
Anthony Davis, everybody tried to push him outside to shoot threes.
He was lousy at it. And Anthony Davis is one
of the best players in the NBA. He's a big
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that can't shoot threes. He's a big that's closer to the.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Like, you start looking around the NBA and you tell
me Zachie can't play. I don't need three pointers from him.
Giannis doesn't shoot a lot of make a lot of threes.
Anthony Davis wasn't good at it. If you can defend
at seven foot four, defend the rim, you know, and
out west. If you've got to win the West, you've
got to get past Jokich, you need some size. I mean,
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Golden State just doesn't match up at all. The reason
the Lakers could beat Denver and can compete with him
is basically Anthony Davis, Jared Vanderbilt, Ruey. They're big, they're long.
I mean, sometimes size is a skill. There is some value.
The average NBA guy is like six seven and a half.
In long, size matters. It's a trait, you know. It's
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like in the NBA NFL, if you walk around Tom Brady,
he'll be at fox Tom Brady six five. You know,
Kyler Murray's not. You know the quarterbacks that get sacked
a lot to Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield. If
you go look at stats, a lot of it was
they struggled to see over the line. There is an
advantage to being big and tall and seeing over the line.
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Size matters, especially in the NBA. So the Dan Hurley stuff,
people are talking about him taking the Kentucky job. He's
not a good fit. And sometimes there are coaches that
just fit certain situations. For a long time, the late
Bob Knight was considered college basketball's best coach. He fit Bloomington, Indiana.
He was a guy that had to have complete control,
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very insecure, had to have power over everybody. You can
do that in little old Bloomington, Indiana, middle of nowhere.
You can't do that at UCLA. You can't do that
in a big basketball program in a big city. He
was perfect for Bloomington, Indiana. Pete Carroll at usc the optimism,
the energy, he leaned into, the celebrities. Most college football
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coaches are closing everything off and very provincial and protective,
and Pete was open arms and everybody in big energy,
big macro view of football. Brown at Texas was a
great fit. He could talk to the good old boys
or you know, the big, big time billionaire donors Joe
Tory with the Yankees. He had the New York temperament.
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He could handle big celebrities, big media, New York guy
had a toughness. I always thought Joe Tory reminded me
of the stepdad, the tough step dad. None of us
wanted to ever disappoint. There are coaches that get into
certain areas and they're perfect fits, and that would not
transfer necessarily to other places. I think Dan Hurley could
win anywhere, but I think he's really perfect in Yukon.
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He's a serious guy from a serious basketball family, very
very intense, maybe off putting to other people in more
laid back areas. He is Yukon. It works, and some
of these programs love the attention. You know, Kentucky is
status matters, and you know five star recruiting rankings matter,
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and Midnight Madness manners and Dickey V matters, and Yukon
is like the billionaire who made his money in waste
management or insurance. That stuff just doesn't matter. And I
think Hurley is the classic fit. Six titles, twenty five years,
no nonsense, East Coast guy, East Coast mentality. And you
know it's funny. When I lived out West and I
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was in Portland, I would do a morning show on radio,
but I had done the previous night's eleven o'clock news,
so I'd get home at like midnight sleep four hours,
do three hour radio show by myself. And I can
remember people out West saying, man, you're a workaholic. And
then when I moved East and had a lot of hours,
nobody ever said that because out East you just grind.
The weather's lousy in the winter, you grind, and then
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you have a great time in the summer and take
time off. So I was a workaholic out West and
out east, I was just a worker. And like Dan Hurley,
oh my god, he's intense. No he's not. Not in
the East Coast. That's how guys operate. In the East Coast,
they're grinders. East Coast guys are grinders. Big East basketball.
I'm a West Coast kid. I grew up with Big
East basketball. It was just more physical, more punishing, more relentless.
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West Coast basketball has often been pretty in offense. The
Pac twelve's always been about coaching and quarterbacking and the
good weather and you can throw at any time. Midwest football,
they're using two tight ends. Baby, they're running downhill, they're
playing in cold weather. So I think Hurley just fits.
And he was asked about the Kentucky job last night.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
You said, out on the court something about Yukon giving
you all the resources you need. Can we interpret that
to me? And you intend to be back at Yukon
next year, You're not going to entertain any conversations with
anybody else that might have a job coming open tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think that's a concern. You know,
my wife, Uh, you should have her answer to that.
She'll answer that question better than I can.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, he's like my wife's from Jersey. He said later,
I don't want to divorce. I'm just making money now.
I want to keep my marriage intact. East Coast Family,
East Coast mentality, East Coast program. He's perfect there, and
that's okay. At John Calipari, I thought was perfect for
Kentucky and they got tired of him. J Mack with
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the news.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Turn on the news. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Let's start with the New England Patriots. Colin Gerrod Mayo
the new head coach in New England. There's some pressure
taken over for Bill Belichick. He's trying to temper expectations.
Mayo is in year one and had this to say
when a fan referenced the Texans quick turnaround. Caserio had
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been building that team for years before they got C. J. Stroud.
I'm not asking for patients, but I kind of am.
It's a process. It's not only about the quarterback, so
it's weird should the Patriots take.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
A quarterback high. That's what a defensive coach says. As
Sean McVay would say, the quarterback matters, Matt Lafleur would say,
the quarterback matters. I think a lot of these defensive coaches.
I mean, Pete Carroll's a smart coach, Gino Smith is
good enough, Drew Locke is good enough. I don't think
Sean McVay would think that. Sean McVay moved off Goff
who'd been to a Super Bowl, Kyle Shanahan moved off
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Jimmy Garoppolo who'd been to a Super Bowl, and he
Reid moved off Pro Bowl or Alex Smith. Offensive coaches
are Green Bay and Matt Lafleur said we're gonna move
off Aaron Rodgers. Defensive coaches, eh, quarterback when some lose,
some not good enough.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I've always thought, you never want to follow the guy
right who followed the quarterback after Tom Brady, you think
he's gonna be anything special, compared to Brady like following
Belichick's not great. I'm not optimistic for the Patriots. By
the way, they clearly are the worst team in the
AFC East, right my Dolphins built.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I think they're clearly the worst team in the AFC. Okay,
I don't hate that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I would probably agree. You start looking Colin at the schedule.
I'm not trying to get excited for the Jets. They
have really improved the roster. They're pretty stacked everywhere. Okay,
the Buffalo Bills just lost Diggs and the Mimy Dolphins
lost like five defensive starters because they got a pay
two one. You see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You can go anywhere you want with it. I'll just
throw up a D twour side, just circle back and
get to third place in the AFC East. New England's
the worst team in the AFC. Carolina and the Giants,
I think are in a battle for the worst teams
in then so.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Should they pick a quarterback if they're just going to
be three? Probably picking first overall next year.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think if Jaden Daniels was available, because of his
mobility and the Patriots lack of everything, well playmakers He's
an interesting fit. He'd run for some yards. But I
I mean, Drake May is a work in progress. Jaden
Daniels isn't. I think Caleb and Jaden Daniels would walk
in and play immediately and be effective. I think Drake
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May is a work in progress. You put a work
in progress in New England with that offense, that's a disaster.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We saw that last year with Bryce Young in Carolina.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, I'm gonna ask you. If Bryce Young flops and
they would five games, they're gonna be drafted a quarterback
high next year again. Right, Yeah, So I don't see
why the Patriots would be taking Jaden.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Or Drake or whoever. Well, I again, outside of a
team that I mean, I just I think there's like
three teams. I think Atlanta needs an that rusher, Tennessee
needs a tackle, Chicago needs a quarterback in SODA's Washington.
Outside of that, I am always always a strong believer.
Trade down, get multiple pick. There's a reason you're picking
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in the top seven. Usually you have no players.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, next step, let's get the Patriots out of the
way early, Bill Belichick, he is not going to be
in the league this year. Interesting tweet from your buddy
Albert Breer, how there were seven openings this year and
Belichick got none of them, which says a lot. Well,
it gets worse. Nebraska head coach Matt Rule invited Belichick
to a coaching clinic. Belichick spent four and a half
(26:51):
hours with the Cornhusker staff, and here's what Matt Rule
had to say about meeting the goat.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
He is so smart. It's seems so much that he
can make the complex so simple that it humbles you
and embarrasses you. I was embarrassed yesterday listening to him,
how smart he is, how simple it was. So you
have this man who's a savant, right, Who's been a
defensive coordinator, He's been a special teams coordinator, He's coached,
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you know, he could be an offensive coordinator's been a
head coach twice. He's been a GM person. I mean,
he's and he's talking about football in a way that
just like I mean, illuminates things and makes things so
simple that you're like, oh my.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Goodness, I'm not doubting any of that because I have
two friends that are close to Bill, or as close
as you can beat a Bill and not be a
football coach and they say the same thing. But the
league has changed. So you can be a genius. But
if the culture changes beneath your fit feet and you
don't and it doesn't work for you, I mean you
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put Patricia a defensive coordinator is an offensive coordinator. And
by the way, genius people. Elon Musk is a pretty
sharp cat. He's ruined his social media platform. It's a mess.
It's been devalued by like twenty billion dollars. Advertisers are
fleeing the consumer experience. I'm not pro or anti Elon
Musk X is a mess. I don't even go to it.
(28:18):
It's just a mess. So brilliant people can have cultural
changes beneath their feet and they don't feel them, they
don't act to them. So we've seen great managers in baseball, football, hockey,
like they just things changed, they don't change with them.
I'm not denying his brilliance. But offensively, they could not
draft and develop skill players for the last since Grunk,
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So I mean that's indisputable. The minute Bill took over personnel,
they their drafts got bad consistently and fast.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Let me give you two teams for Belichick. Should he
come back next year. So McCarthy gets runoff Cowboys of
eight and nine. Could you see Jerry going after Bill Belichick?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Because I just think Bill's no nonsense and Jerry's a
lot of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So speaking of nonsense, let's say Salah gets run off Bill.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hold up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Bill Belichick has to be ticked off the what the
Crafts have done to him with this Apple TV series.
You know privately he's seething. He comes off looking like
a like a buffood. They made him look terrible. You
want revenge, You go in the division to the Jets.
Now you get revenge on the Patriots, and you know what,
I'm sorry, the Jets have enough defensive talent on that
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team that Belichick could instantly keep them contemned.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You go in division when Sean McDermott gets run and
you take over Josh Allen the Bills. That's the one, Yeah, Bill, Bill.
I think Bill would have taken the Chargers job if
offered because of Herbert. I think Josh Allen, if McDermott,
they if they step back this year and they're good,
but again they get bounced early. I think people I
think they'll be a move in Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Okay, I pushed Slah because he's more on the hot
seat right than mc derbott mcgermis at least making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But the different standard, Buffalo standard is making the playoffs,
winning playoff games, and viable AFC Championship contender. Jets aren't that.
You're crossing your fingers that Aaron Rodgers can make it
through a season, but hell, can you make it through September?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Outside of him? The Jets might have top five roster
in the league.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, but none of those players are worth half a point.
Josh Allen's worth eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
By the way, Mike Williams is now the jets number
two receiver. You saw the right and left tackles they
got in the offseat. I mean this team.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Old guys, the old Rickets.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
You're starting to get excited to get about the Jets,
and you're just like knocking.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
A mess because they're not playing. You haven't seen them
play yet.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Final story, big game in the NBA tonight, the Lakers
hosting the Warriors. Currently, this is the nine to ten
matchup in the playoffs. Lakers need to win to get
out of that nine to ten matchup. If the Warriors win,
they will hold a tiebreaker over the Lakers, so there's
a slim chance they could then host the play in
game against the Lakers. Now, Lebron missed the Sunday night
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game with flu like symptoms.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think we both agree he's going to play tonight, right, Yes,
I think it's gonna be a really good game.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Anthony Davis Scott poked in the eye left early. I'm
assuming he's going to play tonight. Yeah, he's a big game.
It's a big night in the NBA, and this one's
as big as a game.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What I'm gonna call, I never do this. I'm gonna
call my friend Draymond see if he can get me
a ticket. Your friend, Draymond, it's my friend. Really good,
it's my friend. You said you didn't have good seats.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, they're good.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
They're good for me. They're really good seats. But you know,
you're a little bit of a different status here.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You're like any you know, I'd like to be able
to make eye contact with many of the great stars
in the game.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh, you want to sit next to Kim Kardashian as
that what it is?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh No, I've never seen her. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Listen, I think the Lakers are favored by one and
a half to night.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's a really good game. I think I think you know,
you know, you've been here for two years. You know,
I've always been a skeptic on the Lakers. I love
this Laker team. Well, I think they're a nightmare matchup
for everybody except Denver, and I think they match up
with them.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Since February first, they're twenty one and nine, second best
record in the league.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And that's not all beating in Tomato Can And that's
Lebron taking lots of games off. That's get it. That's
Jared Vanderbilt not in the rotation. Like, this is a
really good team.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean, your buddy D'Angelo Russell's coming into the form.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Hey, since since they benched it Austin Reeves, are.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
We gonna do the celebration? Come on, ice in my vay, Austin. Listen,
come on, get on board the Austin I might get
an Austin Reeves jersey for the postseason runs.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Okay, good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
When you pay good players in pro sports great money,
I e. Dak, the truly great players like a say
Kwan Barkley looks around and goes, oh really, oh really, Well,
that's what Micah Parsons and c. D. Lamb are doing
with Dak Prescott. They're not go to be taking any discounts.
It's why I always say, I watched the media and
(34:03):
I can never figure this out. They're always like, give
the guy the bag, No, don't. My rule in sports
is pay big money very infrequently and only a handful
of positions in football quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, wide receiver.
That's it. And the Cowboys have really backed themselves into
(34:24):
a corner here. So if they don't resign Dak in
twenty twenty five and he's gone after this next year, gone,
you're gonna have like a forty million dollar dead cap hit.
So and that because they kept kicking the can down
the road with the cap dollars. So the truth about
the Cowboys with Dak Is they paid them one hundred
and sixty two million. This is the spot they're in.
(34:45):
They have two playoff wins. They now have the weakest
running back room in the NFL, meaning they're much more
reliant on Dak Prescott, and they didn't improve in free agency,
and they're up against it with a cap like. They're
in a bad space. They're out of the Super Bowl.
Bull I bought into him last year for about three weeks.
They went down to Miami and I'm like, Nope, They're
not it. That's not it. That's not what a Super
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Bowl team look like looks like. So they've really backed
themselves into the corner. And it all starts with paying
a good player great money. And then everybody looks around
and goes, I mean I would do that if somebody
is good at making this, and I'm thinking I'm better
than him, I want to make that. I'm not taking
any discounts. You paid Dak great money. He's a good player.
(35:28):
What do you think. Ceedee Lamb and Micah Parsons look
around and go, we're top five players in the league
at our position. They are. Really, they were really backed
into a corner in Dallas. So there's a lot of
NBA rumors right now about Doc Rivers and Milwaukee, and
I have said, I don't think Milwaukee is a championship team,
but I do think they're fascinating in the playoffs because
(35:49):
with Joe LMBD coming back, I think it's very possible,
maybe probable, that not only Boston but Philadelphia would toss
Milwaukee around like a Crewton in the Salad Bowl. If
they met, they beat him quickly. And I think the
walls are closing in a little bit on Giannis. So
Mike Budenholzer wins a title and come back and not
(36:11):
quite as good as they fire him. And then they
moved Drew Holliday, who was respected, very popular and a
very good player, and then they move off Adrian Griffin
and I looked this morning, they were thirty and thirteen,
and then they do a Hail Mary with Dame and
that's not working. It's a very old roster. They need,
they need things, they need youth draft picks. They got
(36:33):
a pivot here. Dame was a hail Mary. So be
careful about wanting all that power. And the way it
works in the NBA for years is when you get
a superstar and it doesn't work. We blame we blame
the owner, we blame the GM, we blame his teammates,
we blame the coach. But you start looking around on this.
If Milwaukee, they're lucky they're an Eastern Conference team. If
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Milwaukee was in the West, would they I don't even
sure they'd be a playing team. They're not as good
as the Lakers. I don't think they're as good as
the Warriors. They're fifteen and fourteen. That's the number I
got this morning, fifteen and fourteen against the West. They
wouldn't they wouldn't qualify for the playing game in the West.
(37:14):
They're just fortunate they play in the East, which is Boston, interesting, Philadelphia,
and not very much talent. So I'm not sure what
Milwaukee can do to appease you, honis. They're moving through coaches.
They got rid of Drew, they bring in Dame, and
you know, I think he's a scorer, but now they're
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not playing well. Dame talked about it.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Obviously.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
I hate how the last two weeks or so however
long it's been has gone. You know, it's uncomfortable and
it's frustrating to lose games that we should win and
then have a game like tonight when we start off
playing well and then have a bad third quarter and
get those guys believing and then they take over the game.
But when I look around in the locker room, I
(38:00):
just feel good about it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So I'll say again j Mack thinks I'm nuts here.
The Warriors need another superstar that is on Steph's timeline.
Milwaukee needs youth draft picks, maybe a new coach. I
don't think they can. I don't think they can appease
y on us. He's moving through coaches. If the doc
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thing doesn't work, where do you go? They're old. The
time matters a lot for Milwaukee. It's an old roster.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Okay, how's this? Jannis says, sure, I would like to
go to Golden State, but the New York Knicks step
up with a better trade package.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Oh I go.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
The Bucks have to do Jannis right and say you
will send you to Golden State where you want to go,
thanks for the title, or do they say, sorry, pal,
you want out. We're taking what's best for us.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would have no problem with Jannis going to the
Knicks because I love Jalen Brunts and after seeing him
in person Friday, I'm even more impressed. I think Brunson
is the best star in New York since Patrick Ewing,
and I think he actually elevates teammates as much as Ewing.
So you get me Jannis and Jalen Brunson and a
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bag of marbles. I think I'm in the Eastern Conference Finals.
I mean, I really do. I think Brunson, you know,
it's like Bam and Butler and a good coach. I think.
I think Brunson and Giannis is a is a great
four year run, and you're gonna knock a lot of
people up.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I thought just two years ago we were saying that
Jannie's DNA is the international guy. I'm gonna stick it out.
I'm gonna ride with the franchise, the drafting me. Well,
forget this jumping around teaming up none that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I will say this when like, if you moved overseas
and you were really good at what you did, you
would come in and feel like a visitor. But then
after a while, if you were like the best blank
at what you did in Italy, you get a little ego,
little alpha, and you'd say, yeah, I'm gonna do things
kind of the way I used to do them, and
(39:56):
this is what I want. Jannis came here one MVP,
one title and is like, yeah, I want to and
by the way, being criticized, we want another. I mean
Calipari won at Kentucky, he moved on. So I think
Giannis is I would call it being westernized. We have
a different pressure here, a bigger, louder media here. He's lucky,
he's in a small market, and I think he's like saying, okay,
(40:17):
if you want me to win two titles, this isn't it.
Boston's not only is Boston better and deeper, much deeper.
Boston's a matchup issue Boston. I think Boston could sweep Milwaukee.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on a Tuesday, and our headline is
one you've heard several times. Yukon national champs in basketball,
this time in men's, often in men's and women's. It's
the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may
be listening, Thanks for making us part of your day.
Nick right one hour from now. Jamak having lived around
(00:51):
the program for years and for a decade, all my
friends in that area being diehard Yukon fans, you have
that proximity to a program, just like living in LA
and we know a lot of people that work for
you know, the Lakers or the Rams or the Chargers.
I've got to be honest. We're not supposed to root
in this business, but I like watching Yukon crush. I
(01:14):
like watching Yukon basketball. My wife asked me, She said,
was the game any good last night, I said it
was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, made money on Yukon, easy winner.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. Nothing against Purdue, but
they didn't stand a chance. Nobody the last two years
seemingly does. In the American basketball culture, which is absolutely, unequivocally,
inarguably fallen behind Europe's, which often in America celebrates the
(01:44):
wrong thing that coddles more than develops. It's very, very
difficult to stay focused and fight through that American basketball culture,
and Yukon does better than everybody. They keep basketball the
main thing. They grind their players, hold them accountable. Yet
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the players love it. The players lean into it because
great players in great programs want to be coached hard.
Yukon stands alone at the top of college basketball's mountain,
six titles twenty five years. Everything in their program is
done right. They use the NIL and the transfer portal,
(02:29):
but they don't rely on it. Their coaching is probably
the best in the country. They play tough, physical basketball,
old biggie style. They can have old school centers and
new school guards and wings. Everything they do is the
way college basketball, and I think America really likes it.
Some old school and some three pointers. It is a
(02:51):
complete letless program, and Dan Hurley the coach, is the
perfect guy, authentic, just archy East Coast enough, fits the
program and the culture. Absolutely committed in a world of TikTok,
in a world of a lot of sizzleover substance, in
(03:11):
a world of headlines over actually reading the article. Yukon
is the movie Oppenheimer, a historic three hour movie about
the Adam Baum and it swept through the awards. Barbie
was cute, fun, people dressed up silly. No big, splashy
(03:37):
adventure movie, no big movie star, former wrestler, nothing against rock.
But the reality is Yukon Basketball is a serious program
that attracts serious people to its program, and Dan Hurley's
perfect for that. He's not worried about how he looks
(04:00):
his hoodie in his office. The first big shot of
the second half. Yukon never loses when they lead it half. Ever,
they were forty seven to zero going into the last
night's game when they led thirty six thirty at half,
Newton comes down hits a three and I'm thinking thirty
nine thirty, it's over. We're just playing out the string here.
It's over. The game's officially over. And that's the way
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it is against Yukon most of the last two years.
Maybe this program it just maybe it wouldn't work out West,
we have our good weather and options. Maybe it wouldn't
work in the south of the Midwest, but it works
in the East. It works in Connecticut, it works in stores.
I mean, outside of Zach Edy, no other player thed
(04:47):
you know five points was your next big score for Purdue.
I believe, and I don't blame them. Zach Edy's great,
He's fantastic. I'll get to him in a second. But
what you're watching is a combination of old school basketba
old school coaching, but new schools smart, using the portal,
(05:07):
using NIL, a lot of transfers here but not depending
on it. I think it's a joy to watch. Maybe
it's because I lived there for ten years, but I
know how much it means to the area. And it's
just a relentless program that squeezes every ounce of talent
out of every coach, out of every player, out of
(05:29):
every transfer. Serious people like serious companies and programs, and
that's what Yucon's all about. And Dan Hurley saying we
are different.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
After I just think it's it's the best two year
run I think in a very very long time, just
because of everything we lost from last year's team. To
lose that much and again to do what we did again,
you know, it's got to be as too. Is impressive
two year run as the program's had since prior to
(06:04):
whoever did it before Duke. To me, it is more
impressive than what Florida and Duke did because they brought
back their entire teams.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Now to Zach Edy produced dominant seven foot four center
who had another dominating night. And I was thinking about
what Dan Hurley said on our show about a week ago.
If Zach Edy doesn't work in the NBA, maybe that's
why the NBA has lost half its audience since Michael
Jordan retired. Every team in the NBA uses the same analytics,
(06:38):
the same data. They play the exact same way esthetically,
kind of boring dunksan threes. That's it. The American audience
told you men's and women's college basketball, we like some
old school stuff. Caitlin Clark does she feel like Hoosier's
the underdog. Zach Edy feels like, you know, old school centers.
(06:58):
Everybody in the NBA plays same way and that Minnesota.
The Timberwolves said, no, we're not going to do that.
We're gonna get two seven footers, and the t Wolves
are the number one seed in the West. They broke
through by the way. Spurs did this once, David Robinson,
Tim Duncan, Houston did this. A Keeman Ralph Sampson Minnesota
said no, we're not We're not just gonna do the
(07:20):
small ball thing. We're gonna go the opposite. We're gonna
get Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony Towns. I mean, let
me ask you this. Zach Edie got two Yukon bigs
in foul trouble all night, scored thirty seven points against
the guy that's going to go in the NBA draft.
(07:40):
Is every big in the NBA scoring thirty seven last night?
Zu Bots who averages twelve game for the Clippers old
school center, You think he scored thirty seven last night
and getting both of Yukon bigs in foul trouble. I mean,
I don't know. I watched that game. Nobody's blocking that shot.
Seven foot four, three hundred pounds and the dude is ripped.
(08:00):
He played more minutes than anybody in the tournament. That's
not that there are abs. He is a seven foot
four guy, three hundred pounds with abs. He is ripped.
He's not going anywhere. Well, he can't defend the wing.
Is Anthony Davis a great wing defender, or all these
bigs in the NBA outside of Wemby great wing defenders.
(08:21):
I don't know. But in the NBA, and I've heard
people in the league complain about this, every team uses
the same data and the same analytics, and it's like
Denver's better than everybody. And before that, Golden State was
better than everybody. Minnesota said we're gonna try something new.
We're gonna go with bigs. One guy doesn't even score much,
Rudy Gobert. The other guy's a little flaky. Karl Anthony Towns.
(08:43):
They're the number one seed in the West, and that's
what Karl Anthony Town's hurt. Hopefully coming back. So I
don't know. I look at Zach Edy, driven, tough, smart, finishes,
block shots. I mean, it's like Caitlin Clark. Don't judge
Caitlin Clark and Zach Edy on the final college basketball
game they play and they lost. They're just different. They
(09:05):
look different, and again Zach Edy last year. I remember
when Tim Tebow was in college and I watched him
as an underclassman, and then I watched him his final year,
and it was the same guy. It was the same game,
slow delivery, didn't have a great arm raw raw optimism.
It was the same guy. Zach Eaty's not the same
player he was a year ago. He's not. He's a
(09:25):
better finisher, he's in better shape, he's more relentless. I mean,
how many players have won multiple Nasmiths, Bill Walton, Ralph Samson,
Zach Edie. It says something, doesn't it here? He was
after the loss.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You can say whatever you want about me. You can
say however I play, you can say whatever, but you
can never say that I didn't give it one hundred
percent every single time I stepped on the floor, every
single time I went in practice. And that's that's what
I always hang my hat on. I kind of I
came in than I never didn't give it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dan Hurley's his game plan was, yeah, we're not going
to be able to stop him, and they've got an
NBA center. Mark Few came on this show and said,
I've been doing this twenty five years, I've never faced
anybody like that. We can't stop him, really, I mean
when Dan Hurley acknowledges, stop the other guys, we've got
(10:20):
an NBA center. Just stop the other guys. He's gonna
get his forty. I don't know. Hurley said it a
week ago. If he doesn't make the NBA, this is
supposed to be the weakest draft ever, like the Anthony
Bennett draft. And you're telling me he can't be a
top fifteen pick. I don't get it. Like if the
(10:42):
audience is telling you we like basketball, we just don't
want everything to be a three or a dunk. Michael
Jordan was a mid range player. Magic Johnson wasn't a
great shooter. Lebron's hot and cold. Yes, Steph Curry is,
but I don't know. When I watch Zach Edy at
seven to four against NBA guys getting him all in
(11:04):
foul trouble and dropping thirty seven, and Mark Fus like, yeah,
there's just orting no way to defend him. I can't
believe there's not a spot in pro basketball for him. Somewhere.
There are old school centers playing right now in the
NBA averaging double figures. He can be one of them. Jamack,
you're rolling your eyes at Zach Edye the optimism coward.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh my, this might be a top five hottest take
since I joined the show, like two years ago or
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You don't think he's a top fifteen pick.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, hold on, Ronnie James, we need an hour on
this man.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ronnie James averages four a game. He's gonna get drafted.
This guy drops thirty five against NBA bigs and he's
not drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Roddy's going in the second round, though, But I.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Mean, this is the weakest draft. They're saying, there's not
an American player in the top four. He can't go fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, I don't think he's gonna go fifteen. He's
very good player. Do you have many assists he had
last night?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not zero?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
None?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I don't rely on my center to get all
my assists.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But that's why Jokic is so spec.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Jokic is the world's best player. I'm not asking Zach
Edie to be the world's best player. I'm saying in
the weakest draft maybe ever. And that's what people are saying.
This rival is the Anthony Bennett draft, where the best
player was Jannis.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And he went like fifty. That's fair, Okaya.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Rudy Gobert was the second best player in that draft.
He went at the end of the first I believe
this is a terrible draft that got the most dominant.
Tim Tebow went in the first round on a playoff game.
You're not even close to this dominant.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I just I looked at all those buckets he had
last night, A lot of two pointers, did really, really well,
and they still got smoked because three is more than two.
And that's why the.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Way they got smoked, because Yukon is easily. Yukon's smoking everybody.
I mean, they're blowing their average win over the last
two years is what twenty one two.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They're dominant, but I mean three being more than two.
I like what Edie did last night was great, but
I wonder if that's a blueprint Colin for the Lakers
when they play Yokis, Hey, Joki, you can have fifty points. Well,
I'm not saying I'm not giving anything to me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not saying build my entire franchise around Zach Edy.
I'm saying when I face Jokic and I'm the Warriors
and just don't match up. I'd like a seven foot
four big who can at least defend when I face
go Bear in Towns or Davis, and I'm the Warriors,
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and I don't match up with Denver Minnesota or the
Lakers at all. I contend if the Lakers played Golden State,
it's a nightmare matchup. The Tea Wolves will privately tell
you they do not want to face the Lakers. So
the Warriors don't match up with the Celtics, they don't
match up with the Lakers, Denver Minnesota. You don't think
a seven to four guy who can give you twelve
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to thirteen a game and block shots has value.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I would take an upside guy in the top fifteen,
and I would take Edie yet early second round. I
think he's got great value. Like Zubats who you referenced.
Zubot went thirty second overall. First two years. He was
like in the G League, and then all of a
sudden he starts to grow a development popping. Now he's
a sir you Mike gar Joki in the playoffs. But
that's in like year six seven. You can't drafted the
top fifteen colin I like. I like him a lot
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now Klingon's interesting. I thought he defended eating.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You mean the guy that was in foul trouble the
entire night, that couldn't really score. So you liked the
guy that couldn't score from Bristol, Connecticut, that was in
foul trouble over the guy that dominated the tournament.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I bet I bet the clinging under thirteen and a
half points easily cast.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, so did I? Okay, I knew he was gonna
get shut down.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You don't like clinging that much.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think he's fine. I don't think he's historically great.
I would take Zach Edie in the NBA over clinging.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Clinging. Huh.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He was clinging to Zach Edie's shoulder as he fouled
him time and time again. I thought he was clinging
due m. I don't know, Like sometimes my eyes don't lie.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, you remember Clint Cappella rim running dunking machine. Rock
gets talks like Klingon is him on steroids? Like Klingon
is seven too? Super?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I like Klingon, nice player. I like Yukon period. I'm
not saying that. Yeah, but I'm watching Zach Edy today
and I watched him last year, and new information new opinion.
Last year, I did not think he looked like this.
I thought he was good. He was a good player.
He looks stronger, he's more forceful, he's more intimidating.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Didn't you think this was like a half court game
last night? NBA is longer forty eight minutes versus forty Yeah,
but why way more possession?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Watch the playoffs in the NBA, it gets very half court.
All these one thirty one, one twenty eight, they all
evaporated the play.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And you know who's been played off the court in
the playoffs, Rudy Gobert. They gotta put him on the
bench because he can't defend the pick and roll, and
he offensively, he's kind of a liability. So that's interesting.
Can you put on your GM hat and you want
to take Zach edy tough fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
In the weakest draft maybe ever? I can take him
in the top fifty, especially if I'm a team that
has to face a poor Zingis or a Yannis or
an Embiid or a Yokice, and I got a bunch
of wings who can't defend them. Give me a big
I know. I'll tell you this. Esthetically, I like watching
the college game. I liked watching the women and the
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men college over the NBA. Sometimes I get I get
a lot of different looks offensively.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Let's win for the playoffs, and then you'll know.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You and I, boy, we both love the NBA playoffs.
I love the NBA playoffs. I'm not banging on the NBA.
I'm an NBA package guy. I watch the games. I'm
in tonight, Warriors Lakers. I'm glued into that game.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
By the way, Sun's paper clips, Tonight is a really
good game. I think Celtics Bucks that it's a great
night for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Great night, and Zach Edy on those great nights will
be part of those teams in one year.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
By the way, my buddy may have an extra ticket
to Lakers Warriors if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's interesting. Okay, I'd be interested in that tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, I I got the ok from the wife, so
I'm good to sea.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay, I'll go tonight. Really, is it a good seat?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's a good seat, not great seat, but it's a
good seat.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, what does that mean.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We'll talk about it during the break. It's a good seat.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't do Low's seating.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, we were talking about Zach Edy during the break.
So he had thirty seven points, one other guy for
Purdue had like twelve, and then nobody else ready scored.
And so think about brook Lopez for Milwaukee, who's a
very very good player, good BB plus player. When brook
Lopez came into the NBA, you know, you kind of
thought of him as a big guy, kind of a plotter.
He didn't shoot from the perimeter at all, and now
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he's a regular three point shooter. Go look at his
first five years in the league, Go look at the stats,
google it, and brook Lopez wasn't the guy shooting or
making threes. Now he is a guy so like Zach Eat,
he's probably never going to be And for the record,
Anthony Davis, everybody tried to push him outside to shoot threes.
He was lousy at it. And Anthony Davis is one
of the best players in the NBA. He's a big
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that can't shoot threes. He's a big that's closer to the.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Like, you start looking around the NBA and you tell
me Zachie can't play. I don't need three pointers from him.
Giannis doesn't shoot a lot of make a lot of threes.
Anthony Davis wasn't good at it. If you can defend
at seven foot four, defend the rim, you know, and
out west. If you've got to win the West, you've
got to get past Jokich, you need some size. I mean,
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Golden State just doesn't match up at all. The reason
the Lakers could beat Denver and can compete with him
is basically Anthony Davis, Jared Vanderbilt, Ruey. They're big, they're long.
I mean, sometimes size is a skill. There is some value.
The average NBA guy is like six seven and a half.
In long, size matters. It's a trait, you know. It's
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like in the NBA NFL, if you walk around Tom Brady,
he'll be at fox Tom Brady six five. You know,
Kyler Murray's not. You know the quarterbacks that get sacked
a lot to Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield. If
you go look at stats, a lot of it was
they struggled to see over the line. There is an
advantage to being big and tall and seeing over the line.
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Size matters, especially in the NBA. So the Dan Hurley stuff,
people are talking about him taking the Kentucky job. He's
not a good fit. And sometimes there are coaches that
just fit certain situations. For a long time, the late
Bob Knight was considered college basketball's best coach. He fit Bloomington, Indiana.
He was a guy that had to have complete control,
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very insecure, had to have power over everybody. You can
do that in little old Bloomington, Indiana, middle of nowhere.
You can't do that at UCLA. You can't do that
in a big basketball program in a big city. He
was perfect for Bloomington, Indiana. Pete Carroll at usc the optimism,
the energy, he leaned into, the celebrities. Most college football
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coaches are closing everything off and very provincial and protective,
and Pete was open arms and everybody in big energy,
big macro view of football. Brown at Texas was a
great fit. He could talk to the good old boys
or you know, the big, big time billionaire donors Joe
Tory with the Yankees. He had the New York temperament.
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He could handle big celebrities, big media, New York guy
had a toughness. I always thought Joe Tory reminded me
of the stepdad, the tough step dad. None of us
wanted to ever disappoint. There are coaches that get into
certain areas and they're perfect fits, and that would not
transfer necessarily to other places. I think Dan Hurley could
win anywhere, but I think he's really perfect in Yukon.
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He's a serious guy from a serious basketball family, very
very intense, maybe off putting to other people in more
laid back areas. He is Yukon. It works, and some
of these programs love the attention. You know, Kentucky is
status matters, and you know five star recruiting rankings matter,
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and Midnight Madness manners and Dickey V matters, and Yukon
is like the billionaire who made his money in waste
management or insurance. That stuff just doesn't matter. And I
think Hurley is the classic fit. Six titles, twenty five years,
no nonsense, East Coast guy, East Coast mentality. And you
know it's funny. When I lived out West and I
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was in Portland, I would do a morning show on radio,
but I had done the previous night's eleven o'clock news,
so I'd get home at like midnight sleep four hours,
do three hour radio show by myself. And I can
remember people out West saying, man, you're a workaholic. And
then when I moved East and had a lot of hours,
nobody ever said that because out East you just grind.
The weather's lousy in the winter, you grind, and then
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you have a great time in the summer and take
time off. So I was a workaholic out West and
out east, I was just a worker. And like Dan Hurley,
oh my god, he's intense. No he's not. Not in
the East Coast. That's how guys operate. In the East Coast,
they're grinders. East Coast guys are grinders. Big East basketball.
I'm a West Coast kid. I grew up with Big
East basketball. It was just more physical, more punishing, more relentless.
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West Coast basketball has often been pretty in offense. The
Pac twelve's always been about coaching and quarterbacking and the
good weather and you can throw at any time. Midwest football,
they're using two tight ends. Baby, they're running downhill, they're
playing in cold weather. So I think Hurley just fits.
And he was asked about the Kentucky job last night.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
You said, out on the court something about Yukon giving
you all the resources you need. Can we interpret that
to me? And you intend to be back at Yukon
next year, You're not going to entertain any conversations with
anybody else that might have a job coming open tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think that's a concern. You know,
my wife, Uh, you should have her answer to that.
She'll answer that question better than I can.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, he's like my wife's from Jersey. He said later,
I don't want to divorce. I'm just making money now.
I want to keep my marriage intact. East Coast Family,
East Coast mentality, East Coast program. He's perfect there, and
that's okay. At John Calipari, I thought was perfect for
Kentucky and they got tired of him. J Mack with
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the news.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Turn on the news. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Let's start with the New England Patriots. Colin Gerrod Mayo
the new head coach in New England. There's some pressure
taken over for Bill Belichick. He's trying to temper expectations.
Mayo is in year one and had this to say
when a fan referenced the Texans quick turnaround. Caserio had
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been building that team for years before they got C. J. Stroud.
I'm not asking for patients, but I kind of am.
It's a process. It's not only about the quarterback, so
it's weird should the Patriots take.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
A quarterback high. That's what a defensive coach says. As
Sean McVay would say, the quarterback matters, Matt Lafleur would say,
the quarterback matters. I think a lot of these defensive coaches.
I mean, Pete Carroll's a smart coach, Gino Smith is
good enough, Drew Locke is good enough. I don't think
Sean McVay would think that. Sean McVay moved off Goff
who'd been to a Super Bowl, Kyle Shanahan moved off
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Jimmy Garoppolo who'd been to a Super Bowl, and he
Reid moved off Pro Bowl or Alex Smith. Offensive coaches
are Green Bay and Matt Lafleur said we're gonna move
off Aaron Rodgers. Defensive coaches, eh, quarterback when some lose,
some not good enough.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I've always thought, you never want to follow the guy
right who followed the quarterback after Tom Brady, you think
he's gonna be anything special, compared to Brady like following
Belichick's not great. I'm not optimistic for the Patriots. By
the way, they clearly are the worst team in the
AFC East, right my Dolphins built.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I think they're clearly the worst team in the AFC. Okay,
I don't hate that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I would probably agree. You start looking Colin at the schedule.
I'm not trying to get excited for the Jets. They
have really improved the roster. They're pretty stacked everywhere. Okay,
the Buffalo Bills just lost Diggs and the Mimy Dolphins
lost like five defensive starters because they got a pay
two one. You see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You can go anywhere you want with it. I'll just
throw up a D twour side, just circle back and
get to third place in the AFC East. New England's
the worst team in the AFC. Carolina and the Giants,
I think are in a battle for the worst teams
in then so.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Should they pick a quarterback if they're just going to
be three? Probably picking first overall next year.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think if Jaden Daniels was available, because of his
mobility and the Patriots lack of everything, well playmakers He's
an interesting fit. He'd run for some yards. But I
I mean, Drake May is a work in progress. Jaden
Daniels isn't. I think Caleb and Jaden Daniels would walk
in and play immediately and be effective. I think Drake
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May is a work in progress. You put a work
in progress in New England with that offense, that's a disaster.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We saw that last year with Bryce Young in Carolina.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, I'm gonna ask you. If Bryce Young flops and
they would five games, they're gonna be drafted a quarterback
high next year again. Right, Yeah, So I don't see
why the Patriots would be taking Jaden.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Or Drake or whoever. Well, I again, outside of a
team that I mean, I just I think there's like
three teams. I think Atlanta needs an that rusher, Tennessee
needs a tackle, Chicago needs a quarterback in SODA's Washington.
Outside of that, I am always always a strong believer.
Trade down, get multiple pick. There's a reason you're picking
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in the top seven. Usually you have no players.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, next step, let's get the Patriots out of the
way early, Bill Belichick, he is not going to be
in the league this year. Interesting tweet from your buddy
Albert Breer, how there were seven openings this year and
Belichick got none of them, which says a lot. Well,
it gets worse. Nebraska head coach Matt Rule invited Belichick
to a coaching clinic. Belichick spent four and a half
(26:51):
hours with the Cornhusker staff, and here's what Matt Rule
had to say about meeting the goat.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
He is so smart. It's seems so much that he
can make the complex so simple that it humbles you
and embarrasses you. I was embarrassed yesterday listening to him,
how smart he is, how simple it was. So you
have this man who's a savant, right, Who's been a
defensive coordinator, He's been a special teams coordinator, He's coached,
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you know, he could be an offensive coordinator's been a
head coach twice. He's been a GM person. I mean,
he's and he's talking about football in a way that
just like I mean, illuminates things and makes things so
simple that you're like, oh my.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Goodness, I'm not doubting any of that because I have
two friends that are close to Bill, or as close
as you can beat a Bill and not be a
football coach and they say the same thing. But the
league has changed. So you can be a genius. But
if the culture changes beneath your fit feet and you
don't and it doesn't work for you, I mean you
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put Patricia a defensive coordinator is an offensive coordinator. And
by the way, genius people. Elon Musk is a pretty
sharp cat. He's ruined his social media platform. It's a mess.
It's been devalued by like twenty billion dollars. Advertisers are
fleeing the consumer experience. I'm not pro or anti Elon
Musk X is a mess. I don't even go to it.
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It's just a mess. So brilliant people can have cultural
changes beneath their feet and they don't feel them, they
don't act to them. So we've seen great managers in baseball, football, hockey,
like they just things changed, they don't change with them.
I'm not denying his brilliance. But offensively, they could not
draft and develop skill players for the last since Grunk,
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So I mean that's indisputable. The minute Bill took over personnel,
they their drafts got bad consistently and fast.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Let me give you two teams for Belichick. Should he
come back next year. So McCarthy gets runoff Cowboys of
eight and nine. Could you see Jerry going after Bill Belichick?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Because I just think Bill's no nonsense and Jerry's a
lot of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So speaking of nonsense, let's say Salah gets run off Bill.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hold up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Bill Belichick has to be ticked off the what the
Crafts have done to him with this Apple TV series.
You know privately he's seething. He comes off looking like
a like a buffood. They made him look terrible. You
want revenge, You go in the division to the Jets.
Now you get revenge on the Patriots, and you know what,
I'm sorry, the Jets have enough defensive talent on that
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team that Belichick could instantly keep them contemned.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You go in division when Sean McDermott gets run and
you take over Josh Allen the Bills. That's the one, Yeah, Bill, Bill.
I think Bill would have taken the Chargers job if
offered because of Herbert. I think Josh Allen, if McDermott,
they if they step back this year and they're good,
but again they get bounced early. I think people I
think they'll be a move in Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Okay, I pushed Slah because he's more on the hot
seat right than mc derbott mcgermis at least making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But the different standard, Buffalo standard is making the playoffs,
winning playoff games, and viable AFC Championship contender. Jets aren't that.
You're crossing your fingers that Aaron Rodgers can make it
through a season, but hell, can you make it through September?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Outside of him? The Jets might have top five roster
in the league.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, but none of those players are worth half a point.
Josh Allen's worth eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
By the way, Mike Williams is now the jets number
two receiver. You saw the right and left tackles they
got in the offseat. I mean this team.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Old guys, the old Rickets.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
You're starting to get excited to get about the Jets,
and you're just like knocking.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
A mess because they're not playing. You haven't seen them
play yet.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Final story, big game in the NBA tonight, the Lakers
hosting the Warriors. Currently, this is the nine to ten
matchup in the playoffs. Lakers need to win to get
out of that nine to ten matchup. If the Warriors win,
they will hold a tiebreaker over the Lakers, so there's
a slim chance they could then host the play in
game against the Lakers. Now, Lebron missed the Sunday night
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game with flu like symptoms.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think we both agree he's going to play tonight, right, Yes,
I think it's gonna be a really good game.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Anthony Davis Scott poked in the eye left early. I'm
assuming he's going to play tonight. Yeah, he's a big game.
It's a big night in the NBA, and this one's
as big as a game.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What I'm gonna call, I never do this. I'm gonna
call my friend Draymond see if he can get me
a ticket. Your friend, Draymond, it's my friend. Really good,
it's my friend. You said you didn't have good seats.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, they're good.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
They're good for me. They're really good seats. But you know,
you're a little bit of a different status here.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You're like any you know, I'd like to be able
to make eye contact with many of the great stars
in the game.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh, you want to sit next to Kim Kardashian as
that what it is?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh No, I've never seen her. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Listen, I think the Lakers are favored by one and
a half to night.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's a really good game. I think I think you know,
you know, you've been here for two years. You know,
I've always been a skeptic on the Lakers. I love
this Laker team. Well, I think they're a nightmare matchup
for everybody except Denver, and I think they match up
with them.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Since February first, they're twenty one and nine, second best
record in the league.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And that's not all beating in Tomato Can And that's
Lebron taking lots of games off. That's get it. That's
Jared Vanderbilt not in the rotation. Like, this is a
really good team.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean, your buddy D'Angelo Russell's coming into the form.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Hey, since since they benched it Austin Reeves, are.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
We gonna do the celebration? Come on, ice in my vay, Austin. Listen,
come on, get on board the Austin I might get
an Austin Reeves jersey for the postseason runs.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Okay, good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
When you pay good players in pro sports great money,
I e. Dak, the truly great players like a say
Kwan Barkley looks around and goes, oh really, oh really, Well,
that's what Micah Parsons and c. D. Lamb are doing
with Dak Prescott. They're not go to be taking any discounts.
It's why I always say, I watched the media and
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I can never figure this out. They're always like, give
the guy the bag, No, don't. My rule in sports
is pay big money very infrequently and only a handful
of positions in football quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, wide receiver.
That's it. And the Cowboys have really backed themselves into
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a corner here. So if they don't resign Dak in
twenty twenty five and he's gone after this next year, gone,
you're gonna have like a forty million dollar dead cap hit.
So and that because they kept kicking the can down
the road with the cap dollars. So the truth about
the Cowboys with Dak Is they paid them one hundred
and sixty two million. This is the spot they're in.
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They have two playoff wins. They now have the weakest
running back room in the NFL, meaning they're much more
reliant on Dak Prescott, and they didn't improve in free agency,
and they're up against it with a cap like. They're
in a bad space. They're out of the Super Bowl.
Bull I bought into him last year for about three weeks.
They went down to Miami and I'm like, Nope, They're
not it. That's not it. That's not what a Super
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Bowl team look like looks like. So they've really backed
themselves into the corner. And it all starts with paying
a good player great money. And then everybody looks around
and goes, I mean I would do that if somebody
is good at making this, and I'm thinking I'm better
than him, I want to make that. I'm not taking
any discounts. You paid Dak great money. He's a good player.
(35:28):
What do you think. Ceedee Lamb and Micah Parsons look
around and go, we're top five players in the league
at our position. They are. Really, they were really backed
into a corner in Dallas. So there's a lot of
NBA rumors right now about Doc Rivers and Milwaukee, and
I have said, I don't think Milwaukee is a championship team,
but I do think they're fascinating in the playoffs because
(35:49):
with Joe LMBD coming back, I think it's very possible,
maybe probable, that not only Boston but Philadelphia would toss
Milwaukee around like a Crewton in the Salad Bowl. If
they met, they beat him quickly. And I think the
walls are closing in a little bit on Giannis. So
Mike Budenholzer wins a title and come back and not
(36:11):
quite as good as they fire him. And then they
moved Drew Holliday, who was respected, very popular and a
very good player, and then they move off Adrian Griffin
and I looked this morning, they were thirty and thirteen,
and then they do a Hail Mary with Dame and
that's not working. It's a very old roster. They need,
they need things, they need youth draft picks. They got
(36:33):
a pivot here. Dame was a hail Mary. So be
careful about wanting all that power. And the way it
works in the NBA for years is when you get
a superstar and it doesn't work. We blame we blame
the owner, we blame the GM, we blame his teammates,
we blame the coach. But you start looking around on this.
If Milwaukee, they're lucky they're an Eastern Conference team. If
(36:53):
Milwaukee was in the West, would they I don't even
sure they'd be a playing team. They're not as good
as the Lakers. I don't think they're as good as
the Warriors. They're fifteen and fourteen. That's the number I
got this morning, fifteen and fourteen against the West. They
wouldn't they wouldn't qualify for the playing game in the West.
(37:14):
They're just fortunate they play in the East, which is Boston, interesting, Philadelphia,
and not very much talent. So I'm not sure what
Milwaukee can do to appease you, honis. They're moving through coaches.
They got rid of Drew, they bring in Dame, and
you know, I think he's a scorer, but now they're
(37:36):
not playing well. Dame talked about it.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Obviously.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
I hate how the last two weeks or so however
long it's been has gone. You know, it's uncomfortable and
it's frustrating to lose games that we should win and
then have a game like tonight when we start off
playing well and then have a bad third quarter and
get those guys believing and then they take over the game.
But when I look around in the locker room, I
(38:00):
just feel good about it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So I'll say again j Mack thinks I'm nuts here.
The Warriors need another superstar that is on Steph's timeline.
Milwaukee needs youth draft picks, maybe a new coach. I
don't think they can. I don't think they can appease
y on us. He's moving through coaches. If the doc
(38:22):
thing doesn't work, where do you go? They're old. The
time matters a lot for Milwaukee. It's an old roster.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Okay, how's this? Jannis says, sure, I would like to
go to Golden State, but the New York Knicks step
up with a better trade package.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Oh I go.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
The Bucks have to do Jannis right and say you
will send you to Golden State where you want to go,
thanks for the title, or do they say, sorry, pal,
you want out. We're taking what's best for us.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would have no problem with Jannis going to the
Knicks because I love Jalen Brunts and after seeing him
in person Friday, I'm even more impressed. I think Brunson
is the best star in New York since Patrick Ewing,
and I think he actually elevates teammates as much as Ewing.
So you get me Jannis and Jalen Brunson and a
(39:10):
bag of marbles. I think I'm in the Eastern Conference Finals.
I mean, I really do. I think Brunson, you know,
it's like Bam and Butler and a good coach. I think.
I think Brunson and Giannis is a is a great
four year run, and you're gonna knock a lot of
people up.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I thought just two years ago we were saying that
Jannie's DNA is the international guy. I'm gonna stick it out.
I'm gonna ride with the franchise, the drafting me. Well,
forget this jumping around teaming up none that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I will say this when like, if you moved overseas
and you were really good at what you did, you
would come in and feel like a visitor. But then
after a while, if you were like the best blank
at what you did in Italy, you get a little ego,
little alpha, and you'd say, yeah, I'm gonna do things
kind of the way I used to do them, and
(39:56):
this is what I want. Jannis came here one MVP,
one title and is like, yeah, I want to and
by the way, being criticized, we want another. I mean
Calipari won at Kentucky, he moved on. So I think
Giannis is I would call it being westernized. We have
a different pressure here, a bigger, louder media here. He's lucky,
he's in a small market, and I think he's like saying, okay,
(40:17):
if you want me to win two titles, this isn't it.
Boston's not only is Boston better and deeper, much deeper.
Boston's a matchup issue Boston. I think Boston could sweep Milwaukee.
Not Philadelphia, but Milwaukee,
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