3 & Out - Commanders bring in top QB's, QB scouting reports, Fugazi Friday

John dives into why the Commanders bringing in the top QB's in the upcoming draft for one more round of interviews should be considered them just doing their due diligence and not something out of the ordinary. John also dives into the scouting reports that The Athletic published on all of the top QB's coming out in the draft and who has the biggest upside and who may not have what it takes. 

Lastly, John reads your comments for this episode's Fugazi Friday segment.

5:46 - Washington interviews top QB's

13:34 - Scouting reports

33:30 - Josh Allen gets extended

39:37 - Fugazi Friday

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What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast,
Happy Friday, Happy Weekend. Masters just ended for the day,
so I said, let's fire up the old three and
Out podcast to talk a little football. The Commanders are
having all the quarterbacks, that being Jaden Daniels, Drake May
JJ McCarthy in for kind of final interviews next week,

(01:53):
maybe making their final decision. A lot of people on
the internet that cover football thought that was weird. We'll
dive into why that's not weird at all. Scouting reports
on these quarterbacks. I saw an article on the Athletic
that had some things that jumped out to me from
unnamed scouts and unnamed executives. Josh Allen not the quarterback

(02:14):
the pass rusher signed a big deal and why I
think he's a pretty good example of you know, not
everyone pops. You're one or your two. Some guys take
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I'm thirty nine years old and I've had one interview
in my entire life. Not that I've interviewed somebody, I'm

(04:25):
saying interviewed for a job. It happened to me one time.
Fresno State didn't even have to interview anything in radio
or obviously podcasts. Zero interviews. I interviewed for the Eagles,
and I flew back there and you boy got the
job that day. But that's the only interview I ever had.
So when it comes to what these players are going through,

(04:48):
a lot of people listening, I've had a lot of
friends and know a lot of people that work in
more corporate structures, and when you interview for bigger jobs,
it's usually not a one time thing. When I interviewed
for the Eagles, now, granted you know big ego boost,
I got it that day. It was a twenty five
thousand dollars job. Now, there were several other people there
interviewing for the same position, but there were also other

(05:11):
people interviewing for higher level jobs, and it was a
multiple step process. Me got a couple recommendations, interviewed well,
met a couple people, smiled, they liked my personality. That's
not usual. That's not typical for big jobs. Entry level
jobs much easier to pivot if the guy fails. But
how many of you listening right now did have interviewed

(05:33):
for a big upgrade position with a company to leave
a company. If you are the person interviewing for high
priced jobs, whatever that may be, whether that's going from
eighty grand to one hundred and fifty grand, whether that's
a three hundred and four one thousand dollar job, whatever
it may be. Usually it's not just a one off scenario.
They usually interview you multiple times. There's initial meetings, there

(05:57):
may be a secondary meeting, and maybe there's a final
out to dinner meet with the board of directors or
whatever you may be doing. That's part of business when
you are investing a lot of money, and for most companies,
even multi million dollar companies, hiring someone making hundreds of
thousands of dollars is a big, you know, big hire. Well,

(06:18):
in the NFL, the biggest hire you can make, obviously
is a high draft pick, right because not only are
you investing a ton of like what we consider draft
capital at first, second, or third round pick, you're making
that pick in hopes to one day pay that guy
hundreds of millions of dollars because of what they did

(06:40):
after the last CBA. Whoever gets drafted second will make
thirty five to forty million dollars guaranteed. But when I
make that pick, as Adam Peters, just like the Bears
when they inevitably take Caleb Williams, In my mind, I'm
already thinking about the second contract. You're not drafting them
thinking worst case scenario. Let's face it, you're thinking best

(07:02):
case scenario. It's why Caleb Williams gets compared to Patrick
Mahomes and not random quarterbacks throughout the league. Right, we'll
get into some of the scattering reports. The Michael Vicks
and the Justin Herbert's are getting thrown around, not Daniel Jones.
Well maybe, and we'll get into that. But my point

(07:22):
is that all the commanders are bringing these three guys in,
and I saw a lot of people that cover the
NFL as like, if you haven't figured it out by now,
what the hell are you doing. Of course, when you
bring a guy in or multiple people in for final interviews,
you are leaning some way. We're all human beings. You're
gonna like one guy maybe more than the other. No

(07:44):
different when you see these coaching searches usually starts out,
let's just pick up number ten people. You interview ten guys,
and then you cut it down to your final three. Well,
guess what when they go to the final three interviews,
they probably are leaning a certain way going into it.
Now that can change the defining thing for all these
guys obviously is their ability to play the game, and

(08:07):
that has been defined over several years playing football. Drake
May multiple year starter, Jaden Daniels several year starter, and
JJ McCarthy multiple year starter. Tape speaks for itself, and
we all know as quarterbacks the intangible aspect of it
all is very, very important. Not many fucking losers excel
at the quarterback position, right. It's usually smart, hardworking, driven

(08:30):
human beings. And if you are going to be a
little immature and maybe not have the best work ethic,
you've got to have elite physical skills I e. Ben Roethlisberger.
But typically the guys that grind, the guys that work
the hardest, the guys who are the best leaders, are
the best players at that position. Consistently. There are some outliers.
Brett Favre's work ethic wasn't as great as some. He

(08:52):
also had the greatest arm of all time. The other
quarterbacks in his generation, Steve Young, Troy Aikman checked all
the off the field right. Aaron Rodgers probably could get
away with some stuff. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning couldn't
because of his physical gifts. But I would imagine even
if Aaron Rodgers' work ethic didn't equal Peyton and Tom's,
it was still pretty damn good. So everyone going, I

(09:16):
can't believe they're bringing these guys in for like one
final round. You can't. I would take an educated guess
that they are leaning a certain way with this pick
and the player that they're gonna pick. But wouldn't you
want to get one final sit down with them all
to go? Are we really sure? Because let's face it,
when you make this selection, just like anyone that makes

(09:38):
a selection, no matter how excited you are. And these
videos in a couple weeks are gonna go viral. People
hugging people, chest bumping people, saying f yeah, hell yeah,
and huge high fives. It's awesome. It's one of the
coolest parts about Draft Night. Remember last year Dan Campbell
and his GM Brad Holmes, when they traded back and

(09:59):
they still got gives the running back. They went nuts
because they were as confident as humanly possible. But you
still don't know, right, You're only as confident as you
can be when the pick. But we've seen all the
time people be confident in the guy not turn out
to be really good. So you better be as confident,
and making a pick at quarterback is way more complicated, right,

(10:21):
because even if I miss on a wide receiver, well
maybe he's not our number one. Can the guy be
a number two? Even when I miss on defensive lineman. Yeah,
he may not be a star, but he still gets
to rotate in. If my quarterback sucks and this guy
isn't the one, let's face it, we're screwed. It's just
that simple. It's a major problem. And in a couple
of years he will not be on the team and

(10:41):
we'll be looking for another guy. Colin and I talk
about it all the time. The timeline of getting three
or four years at that position is done. You get
like two and a half max. Some guys get one
and a half. Trey Lance got four starts. They're like,
get out of here, you're not good enough. Zach Wilson,
they knew after a year two, but because they brought
in Aaron Rodgers, he got like, uh kind of an

(11:05):
extra year that they clearly regretted. Mac Jones got three.
Fields got three, and really they didn't. Mac Jones we
knew early on in the season was not going to
be back. And Justin Field's the moment they were getting
the number one overall pick around, I would say November
was done in the Chicago Bear. That's how fast it happens.
So I have no problem, just like any human being hiring,

(11:28):
if you're a small business and you're gonna hire someone
that's going to play an important role in your company,
a CFO, a CEO, a marketing manager, whatever, doing several
interviews with multiple people, and that's what the commanders are doing.
I would bring all these guys in. Now, I don't know,
you know, we don't have all the details. Are they
all coming together? Is one coming Monday, one coming Tuesday,

(11:51):
one coming Wednesday, which I would imagine is probably what
ends up happening, because be a little awkward if they're
all like the steakhouse on a Tuesday night together. But
I think this is the right move and I don't
think this is weird at all. I wanted to dive
into some scouting reports in this article that I found
in the Athletic. Basically, shit, I didn't write down the

(12:13):
guy's name. My bad. I'm not trying to just aggregate
your stuff without giving you credit. But it's on the Athletic.
It's basically breaks down the top quarterbacks, and it gets
a bunch of unnamed scouts, assistant coaches, GMS, scouting directors.
I love this type stuff. The media is like, put
your name on it. It's like, guys, they're not allowed
to put their name on it. That's not how it works.
But we yearn for this content. And let's start with

(12:34):
Jayden Daniels, who in this article was universally considered the
number two quarterback as in Fantasyland. You guys QB two, right,
Caleb's QB one. It's pointless to even talk about any
of his quotes. He's going number one. We don't even
need to waste any time. Like he's gonna be on.
The Bears will evaluate him as a player whenever the
game start. But I think all these other players, what's

(12:56):
fascinating is like, which one are you gonna choose? Part
of last year with Bryce and CJ was like, listen,
the Panthers had a choice, right, and they chose the
wrong guy. The Dolphins once upon a time had the
choice Herbert or Tua. They took Tua, even though in
fairness to them at the time it wasn't as crazy
as his age. Dolphins fans were like middlecoff, What the

(13:17):
fuck are you talking about? TUA playoffs? Not a soul
in the league who would take two over Herbert. But
this is not about those guys. This is about Jaden Daniels.
And one thing stood out to me in this little
blurb from a scout. Jaden probably made more progress than
any quarterback coming out in the last five or six years.
He can anticipate, make all the throws and is an

(13:39):
explosive athlete as a scrambler. He's not Lamar or Vic,
but his ability to process pre snap has improved as
a passer, which is hard to do in one year.
Here's what I found interesting. We know he started working
with virtual reality this season, he got those VR reps
and that's when he took off. I honestly, maybe I've

(14:01):
missed it. I didn't see this story. I remember years
ago when Stanford started doing it with their quarterbacks. How
you could take these mental reps right? Historically have always
been in a classroom watching film with your position coach,
your coordinator, your head coach, going over what you should do.
But I don't know about you. When I was in
school and they would do power points, it was harder

(14:23):
to focus. I never learned like that caw Poly. We
learned by doing some of you are can you know,
take that information and then take it back to the field.
I do think this middle ground of you're not actually
on the field, but this VR is just gonna be.
And I would imagine a lot of teams now you know,

(14:43):
participate with virtual reality in their operation. It's kind of genius.
I mean, we all learned differently. Some guys can only
learn from the field. Some guys can learn in the
classroom and go to the field and need one rep
and they're good. And most people somewhere in the middle
a little bit of everything. I think that's how I am.
That's how you are, Like most people aren't one way

(15:06):
or the other. It's kind of hearing it over and over,
repping it out in whatever you're doing. Practice the ten
thousand hours. And he's a guy, little bit of a
late bloomer, got around really good players, a really good
coach and excelled. Now here's the thing, Lamar Jackson's the
best running quarterback I've ever seen in terms of explosion,
in terms of instincts, and in terms of not getting hits,

(15:27):
like he can avoid these hits. Michael Vick was probably
the most explosive runner we've ever seen, but he could
not avoid hits. He actually like yearned to hit people,
which is a problem when you're actually kind of small.
Michael's not the biggest guy, and he'd get hurt a lot.
I think Jaden is just a really good athletic quarterback.
But that's where it gets back to the concerns of

(15:48):
the weight. But if you don't have concerns on anticipatory throws,
layering throws, processing information, like if the commanders feel good
about that, like this guy's gonna go number two, overall
some more stuff. Jaden his quarterback too. He can start
immediately better learn to protect himself, or he'll be in
the cold tub often. That's the thing, that's the Michael

(16:08):
Vick thing. If you can't avoid the hits or seek
the hits out, you are done in this league. I
don't care if you're Cam Newton. Cam Newton was out
of the league in his early thirties. Sometimes you see
these highlights of Cam Newton early on in Carolina or
at Auburn, you're like, is this the greatest athlete factoring
in the size I've ever seen it the position, But

(16:29):
just taking a pounding, Taking a pounding, taking a pounding
fucking wears on you. I don't care if like the
you know me and Joe Greens and the John Lynches
and those type players are out of the league. It's
still a vicious game and these guys are running faster
than ever, So that to me is a huge concern.
Even if you feel good about the processing and stuff,

(16:51):
can you teach that now? I've always believed that you
kind of are who you are as an instinctive player
at whatever you do. It's hard to completely change and
take that out. You're either fearless, or you kind of
hesitate and or you're just naturally avoiding. Frank Gore is
a running back, was elite and he played for fifty
years because he never, you know, went out of his

(17:15):
way for contact. He avoided it and that helped the
longevity of his career. When you're banging, banging, banging banging,
it's just brutal. Listen, I grew up, you know, I
didn't grow up on a ranch, but I was going
to the ranch a lot as a kid. Wear and
tear ranch miles on trucks is a lot different than
me driving my Tahoe around town. So the wear and

(17:38):
tear of getting blasted all the time as a quarterback
or running back is a reason so many running backs
fall off a cliff. So the reason Cam Newton fall
off a cliff. So I think you got to try it,
and there's no way to know. You just have to
get a feel for the guy. If you think he
can change a little bit, if it was him trying
to prove something, if we can, well that's just kind
of how he is when he's instinctively playing. To me,

(17:59):
that's probably the biggest concern, and that's where the weight
comes in people like him. I mean that's pretty clear.
And listen, I remember just throwing on the YouTube on
Malik Neighbors. I'm like, how good is this guy? And
it's hard not to just be wowed. With Jayden Daniels
last but not least, he could end up being the
best one, very good athlete, arm talent. I think he
sees it and can process big drop off after him

(18:21):
and Caleb. Here's where I think it gets interesting with
Drake may Is everything is a projection and for what
Herbert kind of has become, I don't think he was
viewed that coming out. He is way better than anyone
thought he would be. Where Josh Allen, there were people
if you were betting on Josh Allen, he thought he

(18:41):
would be a star. You were getting at you know.
Is basically like walking into home plate you're down a
run or two and you have to hit a home
run to extend the game. You're either going to strike
out or hit a home run. There was no middle
ground with him. Now. Josh Allen is much more talented
in my opinion than Drake May, but he is in

(19:01):
the mold of like you're either gonna hit one off
the wall here, maybe it won't be a home run,
but you're either getting a double or triple or this
is gonna be a disaster, and those are the riskiest picks.
But part of life is risking it. Like if you
stay in the slow lane your entire life, you're gonna
get fucking lapped. You're like, oh, the mortgage racer too high.

(19:22):
I can't afford this, Well you sure, cause if you can't,
maybe you'll rent your whole life. You know, obviously, if
you don't have the money, don't have the money. But
how often you hear I wish, you know, I should
have bought then I should. There's always I guy, I
wish I would have done this, Then I should have
invested in that stock. Then I've met a million of
those guys and they're telling the same story forever, and

(19:43):
it never changes now in the NFL, Like sometimes in
real life, if you don't invest in something whatever, you
get more opportunities. You might only get one in the NFL.
So if you're Adam Peters and you take this and
it backfires, it could be a disaster. It could cost
you your one shot as a GM, especially if it's
really ugly. And if you take Drake May over Jayden

(20:04):
Daniels and then Jayden becomes a star, that's a problem.
It is, and he knows that, like that's part of
the business. But here's a very interesting quote on Drake
May because we only talk about the ceiling. I say
this all the time with comps. It's always like, oh,
this this wide receiver. He reminds me a lot of
Keenan Allen. I see Keenan Allen. You know, I see

(20:26):
some Mike Evans. We're never like, you know, this dude
reminds me of like the fourth wide receiver on the
Carolina Panthers. Remember that rotational guy for the New York
Giants two years ago. He was like kind of moved
to the slots sometimes he had thirty catches. That's who
he kind of if you say that in the draft rooms,
like what so you're always compared him. He's got a
little Davante with a little Tyreek speed. It's always like,

(20:48):
you know, he's got a little Herbert meets a little
Josh Allen. You would never be like, you know, he's
got like Cleveland Baker mixed in with a little Vegas
Derek Carr, and he'd be like, h don't feel as good.
That's why you always hear like with Jayden Lamar's vics,
you know, I mean, you don't hear all the scrubs
that couldn't play. I know a lot of people that

(21:11):
look at the ceiling, but you've got to look how
low the floor is. A guy like Drake May has
a lot of room to grow. He's young, he hasn't
played nearly as much football only two years of starting.
May reminds me a lot of Herbert May Is Herbert Light.
Take everything Herbert does and make it less. They'll be

(21:32):
compared because of the size but there's no comparison. I
like may but when I see the amount of work
it will take to have him reach his potential, we'll
be fired first. I have no problem taking big swings.
I really don't with these, you know, when you're high
in the draft. But the risk is astronomical because the

(21:56):
pace of the pressure has never been higher. The amount
that we all talk about this, the league talks about this,
and ultimately how fast the owner will want to pivot.
What I'm paying one of these quarterbacks, it doesn't hinder
me from moving on. It doesn't stop me from cutting them,
trading them, getting rid of them for nothing. We have

(22:17):
seen it over and over. Now, all these quarterbacks that failed,
we're on other teams very very fast in recent memory,
very very fast. I mean Baker Mayfield's on US fourteen.
Sam Darnold's on US fourteen. Think about that. All those
guys from the Zack Wilson draft. Other teams, they're begging
someone to give them a seventh round pick for Zack
Wilson right now, begging. No one will do it because

(22:39):
no one wants them for seven eight million dollars as
their backup quarterback. They're gonna have to eat some money,
ultimately unload them. And when you talk about potential, which
is what you have to do in a draft, it's
one thing with a position player, it's another thing with quarterback.
And even if you have Marcus Mariota, Jacobe Burssett or
whatever on your roster, if you're not good early on,

(23:03):
there is not a fucking soul that watches your team
that is gonna want to watch that guy play, and
they will scream and scream and scream, and you can
say all you want, we don't listen to the outside noise.
We're insulated. Your owner does. He listens to sports talk
radio podcast and watched the shows every single day because

(23:23):
if I owned a team, I would too, and so
would you. So the coaches may not, even though a
lot of them do. The gms definitely do a little
bit more, But the owner is the only one that matters.
And when his fans are screaming, I can't watch this
ninth year retread backup quarterback anymore. Throw the young guy in,

(23:44):
which is the right move. But when you get these
huge projects, it can derail you immediately, it really can.
Listen the masters is going on right now. Some of
the guys crushing it right now in golf, I was
talking to a buddy who played at Oregon who now
works Robbie, who works for Adidas, and we were talking

(24:05):
about how good Max Hooma was in college. When Max
Hooma left college, he was the national champion. He's currently
as I turned the TV off, he was four under
actually just bogied. Maybe he's three hundred. Max Hooma sucked
as a pro, was holding on for dear life. He
didn't pop till his late twenties, early thirties. He got

(24:28):
eaten alive. Now, golf's a little different than football, but
we're seeing it happen in football, guys who aren't quite
ready at that position get destroyed. Where when I was
a kid in like the nineties, you got several years,
you got time to learn sit hell, even Carson Palmer
got a year. It's why what happened to Patrick Mahomes.

(24:49):
We will not see that anymore. That just is not
happening because nobody wants to watch it. And now with
the money the owner, let's just play the kid. Though.
You get a huge project like Drake May and it's
clearly like pretty big project. Better be ready to go
here's what I say about Justin Herbert, who I liked

(25:09):
a lot. Now, I never thought he would be this good.
He's like a four year starter in college at Oregon
who was competing in Rose Bulls. Herbert was a starting
quarterback for a team that literally won the Rose Bull
I mean he'd been in a lot of big games
at a really I would say, high profile school. So

(25:30):
comparing him to Drake May, I just putting those guys
in the same sentence. I don't love that. Here's the
thing with JJ McCarthy and the same thing with May.
I don't love McCarthy. He's a winner, he has all
the intangibles, but I wouldn't say I like his arm
and I think the athlete is a little overrated. He

(25:52):
reminds me of Daniel Jones. You know what's funny is
when I looked at the numbers for and I've been
saying this for a while now of JJ McCarthy, his
numbers kind of reminded me of Alex Smith. Now, he's
a little shorter. I think he's got a little bit
better armed than but I think he's in a similar mold. Well,
there's nothing wrong the Alex Smith, the chief guy. The

(26:12):
last year with the Niners guy and before he got
injured in Washington. Guy guy was a good player. You
could make the playoffs with that guy. But he was
the best case version of that guy. The comp for
Daniel Jones coming out of school was Alex Smith. That
was his comp and what happened to Daniel Jones he
simply wasn't good enough. Now in defense of him, Alex

(26:36):
Smith finally got Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid, which is
clearly better than any situation he's been in, even with
Brian Abele. So to maximize a guy like Alex you
need everything great around him, especially on defense, and a
great head coach. So to me, JJ McCarthy has had
that in college. He's been the version what Alex was

(27:00):
with the Chiefs and with the forty nine ers they
had an elite defense, have like seventy five guys they're
gonna get drafted on the defensive side alone, and had
six offensive linemen. Go to the combine NFL running back
and just an NFL head coach. So I'm not anti
JJ McCarthy. I think he's a fascinating prospect, but I
think when you compare him and you think about drafting

(27:21):
him really high a lot like Drake may You're just
thinking of the best case scenario. And unlike Drake, who
has more physical skills, his floor is just not as high.
And when it doesn't go well for Daniel Jones, that
type player Alex Smith earlier in his career, it doesn't
get any uglier. That's as ugly as it gets. So

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I think this JJ McCarthy situation is gonna be fascinating.
Now goes to Minnesota like the situation, a lot more
offensive weapons, good head coach, Floor is a good defensive coach.
But if he goes to the Patriots, I'm out last,
but not least on Pennix. Here's an assistant coach. Pennix
is better now than may Or McCarthy for NFL football.

(28:04):
He can read defenses, throw accurately, is quick, and has
strong enough arm. He's more of a sure thing to
play in the NFL. But I'm not sure where he
goes from here because he doesn't have the same upside.
It's a great line. It's not about where you are today.
If you had to, if you were playing NFL football
next week and it was a winner get in game
for the Commanders, they would be better off with Michael

(28:28):
Pennix than any of the other guys. But like we
talked about, you're drafting, not even for this rookie contract.
You're drafting ultimately to try to give him two hundred
and fifty three hundred million dollars in four or five years.
And that's the thing that concerns teams with Michael Pennix.
He's older, the injury history, no one can argue. When
you watch him play beside Caleb. He throws the ball
and he's more accurate, and his deep ball is better

(28:50):
than everybody. I mean, it's just speaks for itself, but
there are other factors in here. And here's a scout.
I think bo Nis is much better in Pennix. I
disagree there. Pennick is serviceable and a different player when
he's playing on schedule, but he's not a good foot
at athlete. I worry about him when he gets traffick
in his face. The fascinating thing to me with Pennix

(29:11):
is if he goes to the right spot, good offensive line,
good coach. I think it can be good. But the
one thing that you saw in that Michigan game, which
people could go in middle coff. You once put him
number two in the draft. You've pivoted. No one's arguing
that he's not a really good player, but his speed
at his pro day. He never really did that and

(29:31):
played like that right now? Can he? We saw CJ.
Stroud much better playmaker in the pros than we saw
in college. We knew he was great in the pocket.
I know Pennix is great in the pocket elite. Michael
Penis is an NFL caliber pocket passer. But you get
hit a lot in the NFL, I don't care who
you are. And when Michael Pennicks played NFL level teams

(29:53):
Oregon Michigan, both times, I thought he wasn't gonna finish
the game, and that concerns me. I like the player
a lot, but I think it is fair to be concerned.
And it's pretty clear like he's not going ahead of
those three guys. But I think he has the chance
to have the most fascinating career. I would be stunned
if he had a long career, but I could see
if he gets in the right situation, having a fantastic

(30:15):
couple of years because he's kind of ready made, very
old school. It doesn't happen as much anymore. He's quarterbacks
man fascinating times, really quick. I wanted to touch on
Josh Allen, not the quarterback, but the pass rusher, and

(30:36):
I think he's a really good example of and I'm
guilty of this that it's one thing when you draft
a guy that doesn't have the traits we had mayok
on and they drafted Cleveland Ferrell, who's going to play
in the NFL for a decade. He's a really solid
NFL defensive lineman. The Niners really missed him last year
when he got injured. That was a big blow for

(30:57):
their defensive line. They didn't have him down the street
because I think he hurt his knee. Really good run defender.
Same thing with Solomon Thomas. Solomon Thomas is going to have.
Both those guys are going to have long, profitable NFL careers.
They just should never have been picked high because they
didn't have the traits to justify it. Not that they
wouldn't have been really good second or third round pick,

(31:19):
but you take a guy in the top ten, traits
do matter because let's face it, I'm not trying to
hit a stand up single. I'm not trying to hit
a stand up double. Those picks do not exist. You're
either trying to hit home run you're willing to strike out.
And Josh Allen is a guy who's almost six foot five,
he's got thirty three inch arms, he's really explosive, and

(31:41):
early on in his career it just was kind of
up and down. And I would say that before last
year it felt like he was kind of coming on.
He had seven sacks three years ago, seven sacks two
years ago, and last year he looked like an elite
player seventeen and a half sacks and is what you
wanted to look like. But it did not happen overnight.
And I think this is just good advice for most people.

(32:03):
Like I used to be very, very impatient when I
was younger. I mean I still I'm not a very
patient person. But my path was no one else's path
but my own. And we all know people who especially professionally,
have immediate success right that financially maybe are doing a
lot better than us at a certain point in time

(32:23):
in our career, and it's hard to not let that
impact you. But you gotta stay laser focused on yourself.
And I think anyone with talent, I'm a huge believer
in the cream always rises, but not all cream rises
at the same rate. And not every guy is Tiger Woods, right,
not every guy is Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. And

(32:45):
it's just like, holy shit, some guys take a little.
While DeVante Adams was a laughingstock his first year and
a half in Green Bay, by the end of his
fourth year is clear like this guy's gonna be one
of the better players in the NFL. Some guys take time.
And when you invest in someone, the quarterback position is
different than all these other positions. Like as a position
player drafted high, you're gonna be on the team more

(33:08):
than likely for your first four years. And if you're
on a bad team, which he's been on, you're gonna
go through some coaches, You're gonna go through some defensive coordinators,
and all you can hope for one you can only
control what you can control, how hard you work. I
read some of his quotes. He's clearly seems like a
pretty high level guy. You know, just how seriously you
take everything, and then you need some things to go

(33:31):
well for you that are out of your control. Who
your coordinator is, where your defense is, and when you
get in the right situation, then it's on you to
take care of the opportunity. We all get different opportunities
at different point in time in our life. Sometimes we're
ready for him, sometimes we're not. And when you're not,
there's not much you can do right but try your best.
But when you do get posed with an opportunity, poison

(33:52):
with an opportunity, and you are prepared, you got you
gotta take advantage of it. And Josh Allen clearly did
after his fourth Yeary it's seventeen and a half sacks
and you just signed one hundred and fifty million dollar
contract with eighty plus million dollars guaranteed. And if he's good,
I'll see most of it. That's the thing with these
good players. When you see the quote unquote fake money,
guaranteed money, it gives you wiggle room if it doesn't

(34:12):
go well. But good players that just play well, like
Aaron Donald, he just saw all his money all the time, right,
Davante Adams just go around the league, like Travis Kelcey,
like whatever contract they sign guaranteed not guaranteed, the normal
number you see, they just consistently see those numbers. So
you keep balling, you keep having fourteen to fifteen to
sixteen sacks. You will see every penny of this number.

(34:35):
And I think it's cool because we get obsessed and listen,
I'm guilty of it as much as anybody like. I
like guys that immediately come to play. It's easy to
go God, Puka Nakua shattering records. Well, my mom can
see that. Can you see? Like a guy like hey man,
I wouldn't give up on this player. I think there's
something there. And Josh Allen finally popped. Okay, Fugazi Friday,

(35:09):
let's hit on a couple. Here's the thing. Two things
before we dive into some of your dms about Fugazi Friday.
Orenthal Simpson, also known as the Juice or OJ, died
today and before we dive into the Fugazi that was
his trial in ninety five. There were things when I

(35:32):
was a kid and anyone older than me, and I
think this lasted probably till like ten fifteen years ago.
I don't think there's a lot that we share in
as a community anymore. We're in the nineties. Like there
were moments and events that it felt like everyone shared it.
And I think a large reason was I didn't have cable.

(35:53):
Probably till like ninety eight ninety nine, I had three channels,
I guess four CHANNELSA NBC, Fox, and ABC, and at
night the nightly news would be on. I remember when
what was the uh not the Iraq War, but General

(36:13):
Schwarzkough War. I just remember the TV being on, like
the whole country. We're all watching the same stuff now.
The one thing I think that kind of resonates with
most people or presidential elections still, but that's so batshit crazy.
That's it's not like it felt like it used to be.
But there used to be certain things that like everyone
shared it, and certain controversies as well. And I think

(36:36):
OJ is just an all timer everyone was paying attention.
I just don't think that really happens anymore. I would
say the most it happens too is now the super
Bowl and a presidential election, and I don't even know
if that has lasting power once Donnie's gone, so like,
if it's just two random lifetime politicians, I don't think

(36:58):
it will be the same. But the OJ thing, I
remember listening to it in class, the Verdict, I was
in fifth grade. I don't think there's anything like that
that would happen now, and I would imagine I'm not alone.
Like everyone's classrooms, everyone's parents, every fucking person was paying

(37:19):
attention to what was going on with OJ. Now obviously
Superstar running back became famous in Hollywood, was a very
famous person, and his murder, the murder he committed, was
really famous. I do think he represents the fugazi. I've
never never been arrested, got a couple of tickets, probably
close when I was in college, you know, drunk in public.

(37:41):
Actually that was in high school. But uh, that's a
long time ago now. But I've never spent any time
in a courtroom. But I followed enough court cases with
famous people to know one thing, and one thing only.
The biggest fugazi in the criminal justice system is like
justice was served. The only thing that matters in the courtroom.
Do you have money or do you not have money?

(38:02):
Because if you have money and you have the best lawyers,
you were going up against the district attorney, state employee.
They got no fucking chance. I don't have what the
district attorney whoever he was going up against at the time,
was making, but what his crew Cochrane, Kardashian, his Crewel
lawyers was making. It ain't a fair fight. If I

(38:24):
show up to your golf course and we're going to
play a two on two match, I'm like, bring the
best player at your club, and I show up with
Scotti Scheffler, I don't care how good the player you
show up with, I'm going to kick your ass. And
clearly OJ gutted those two like a fish and got
off just because. I mean, now, there were other probably variables,

(38:47):
but his lawyers were elite, and we see this all
the time. I'll give you one. Get Ready, SBF, I
think was just sentenced like twenty years in prison for
the crypto scandal. The kind of he wasn't Ponzi wrong thing.
He's like buying I don't know exactly know how you
describe it, but he was doing a legal activity. He
was Robin Peter to pay Paul, but actually he was

(39:10):
having successful business. It wasn't quite Burnie made off. But
you finance people know that he cheated the system, he
broke the law. Get Ready for him to be pardon
this fall. I would expect that. Actually, if Joe Biden loses,
I would expect him to pardon SBF on the way out.
Why you say, because of money. He donated a shitload

(39:34):
of money to politicians. Like all this stuff, it's all
gets back to money. That's why I like I see
all these people getting really emotional online. Like guys it
spend the same way forever. Like if I got in
trouble right now for something, I probably would be up
against the wall in a courtroom. I don't have unlimited

(39:54):
funds to hire the best lawyer. Now, maybe I could
publicize it through the podcast, make it big enough, or
some guy would do it for a cheaper fee to
like hype himself up. But if you got money, you
got a chance. That's why these big corporations they think
it's a pain in the ass to go to corp.
They're not really worried about it. They got big old
budgets to dominate in that world. OJ killed people. He

(40:18):
ended up going back to jail because he was fucking
off his rocker. But OJ did seventy six the Otani interpreter,
This has got to be listen. When I talked to
Colin about this a couple weeks ago, that super rich
people they get robbed all the time. It's been happening
since the history of time because money's all relative, right.

(40:40):
If you have one hundred thousand dollars in your bank
account and eight hundred dollars is missing, you might not notice.
Or there's a weird purchase for eight hundred dollars. If
you have one hundred million in your bank account and
someone takes out a couple million, you might not notice.
But what Otani's interpreter was doing, he lost over one

(41:02):
hundred and eighty million dollars. Now he won one hundred
and forty million dollars, but there was a forty plus
million dollar l he was in the red. I don't
believe for a second that Otani wasn't help funding his gambling.
Do I know if he better or not. I got
no clue. Dude doesn't even speak English, so I've never
even heard the guy talk beside ended this interpreter and listen.

(41:26):
I don't care, Like I'm not one of those people that,
like Otani, has to pay as a consumer. I just
want to watch Atonic clea baseball. I don't give a shit.
I honestly that they're gambling in California. It drives me nuts.
I used to do a lot of business there podcast wise,
and we got to the point where we couldn't do
gambling stuff because the thing these gambling companies went from
the dfs to gambling stuff. We work with one now

(41:46):
and they just don't want to waste their time there
because there's no in insights. You got to go through
an illegal bookie, which they went through, and like, listen,
this guy is the all time fall guy. But Major
League Baseball and Otanic can push all they want. Knew nothing.
It's just at those numbers, even with as rich as
Otani is, bullshit, there's not a soul that believes that.

(42:08):
There is not a soul with the working brain. Here's
the other thing. Back in the day, before I ever
knew this gambling was legal state by state. I guess
federally legal that states are allowed to make it legal,
and then states like California and Texas for whatever reason
just I don't know living in the fucking stone ages,
but you had to go through a bookie. I've gone
through some bookies a lot, like when I was a

(42:30):
kid meeting weed dealers in the back of Burger King
or McDonald's. Now, I didn't have nearly as much money
as I do now, but I had a pretty hard limit.
Once I hit four figures, I would have to pay him.
He wouldn't let me make it past one thousand dollars.
And listen, everyone's different. If you're Phil Mickelson, that number

(42:52):
is probably five hundred thousand dollars. But to get to
the point when you are forty million dollars in debt,
it would never get to that point. The biggest bookie
in the world would only do that if he had
this guy's blessing be the only way possible. And when
they first came out with the story, Otani said, I

(43:13):
paid back his debts, which again I have no problem
with human beings help other human beings all the time,
with debts, with down payments, with business loans like Welcome
to the World. It doesn't bother me at all. Even
if it's quote unquote illegal, because it's a leegal bookie,
I don't give a shit. I could not care any less.
But if the numbers into which I saw tweeted out today,

(43:34):
if you don't think Otani's involved, I just think naives
the wrong way to put it. You're just I can't
even We couldn't even have a conversation because this is
not possible. It really isn't and he's gonna take the
fall and his family and his family's family and their
kids will all be taken care of forever. But this
is an all time as Chris Carter said, fall guy moment. Okay,

(43:56):
a couple other Fugazi Fridays here. This came up a
couple times some of you guys slid into my DMS
about the work life balance, and before I read this,
I thought about this over last week. Obviously, if if
your goals and aspirations are to have a lot of money,
like if that's something that means a lot to you,

(44:18):
there are gonna be limitations on work life balance. And
if you're a younger person trying to earn your stripes
at a company, working for someone wherever, you're gonna have
to go above and beyond. Your work life balance in
your youth will not be as much now. If you
own a company, obviously there are certain roles CEO, commissioners,

(44:40):
whatever I mean, high high level roles. Your work life
balance is gonna be shitty at times. If you don't
desire a lot of money or are cool with the
job you're in, Yeah, do whatever you want. My overall
take is work life balance is such an individual thing,
like what you desire out of your life is not

(45:00):
what I desire, just like it's not what Bill desires
or James desires, or Kelly desires or Megan desire. We
all have different desires beside basic ones like want our
kids to be healthy, want to be safe, we want
to have food. I mean that there's some basic human
needs and necessities and things that we're all kind of
universally agreed upon, like want our kids to be educated,

(45:23):
want our kids be down the right path. But other
than that, like what you like doing with your own time,
when you like vacationing, how much you like working, Do
you like working on the weekends? Do you like you
mail it income Thursday. That's all on an individual basis,
and I have no problem. Lazy people exist, just like
crazy workers exist. If you work a nine to five
and you're older and you don't really care, I don't

(45:43):
blame you. I don't Gary Ve, who can be a
little cheesy sometimes, has always said something that is so right.
When you own a company, you can't expect the people
working for you to have the same skin in the game, work,
ethic and desire for that entity as yourself. You'd be
a more on if you did so. I have no
problem anyone doing whatever they want to do, But there

(46:06):
are also repercussions, like certain jobs, if you don't work
hard enough and you're not producing. I have a lot
of friends in sales. There's a lot of pressure. It
doesn't mean they don't get to scool around. Part of
their job is entertaining and playing golf and taking people
to events and games and concerts. You better close deals
because if you don't, they will get rid of you.
It's and many people listening to this. No, and it's

(46:27):
not about like FaceTime or how many hours, like just
close the deals. And I've always been a big believer
in that either get it done or you don't. I
it's just and that's maybe how I was raised pretty
old school dad, like just produce. I don't really care
about all your bullshit. So this is a rebuttal wife.
And I work in local government with nine to eighty schedules.

(46:49):
Not quite sure what that means. Maybe nine months, I
don't know. We have every Friday off, we have every
other Friday off and do nine hour days Monday through Thursday.
We work fifties six percent of the year. When you
factor in vacations and holidays, it'd be I have no
clue what any of it. It's crazy. You've already broken
that down. I guess you get it from the government.

(47:11):
We also own a one point five million dollar house
and slow have two kids, pensions, so work life balance
can't succeed. Again, that succeeds for you might not succeed
for me or the person listening. It might succeed for them.
They might want that and they don't have that. So
I think we're all different. But I do think the
one consistent and I think high achievers, and I equate

(47:32):
that I think with money, which fair not. I mean,
it's just kind of the way we do it in society.
There's not many guys not working that much. Now, maybe
you get to a certain point where the business runs itself,
but it's usually a lot of time revolving around whatever
you're doing. I heard you previously talking about having a
serious XM for your vehicle. I used to have it

(47:56):
as well for a free trial run, and after that
they wanted twenty for dollar dollars a month. Serious XM
has been on such a decline with the use of
smartphones in cars and availability of auditory media. If you
want to save money, tell them you want to cancel,
and they will lower your bill all the way down
to eight dollars a month. Not to mention Serious has

(48:18):
laid off almost five percent of their workforce two months ago.
They're hurting big time. Part of the reason. I actually
think mine's like twenty nine to ninety nine, which is absurd.
I'm with you. I have a twenty twelve Tahoe. I
want to get a new car, but what I want
is like two hundred grand. Maybe not that much, but

(48:38):
I mean a new Tahoe now is like one hundred grand.
And it's like, do I want a car payment right now?
My cars? I don't have a penny for my car
and it runs fine. And the other thing is I
would if my job revolved around getting a new car.
I drive like two places to the gym and of
the golf course podcast or my desk is at my house.
I actually don't drive very much. But my point is

(49:00):
Jaho doesn't connect to the Internet or Bluetooth, so I
can't connect my phone, which my girlfriend thinks I'm fucking nuts.
She she hates it. Right because most people, many people
listening to this probably are Bluetooth with their phone. I
feel like I'm living in the Stone Age. But I don't,
so I need something besides just like listening to my

(49:22):
phone on the center console. So I just have DXM.
Maybe I just need to get a new car. But
cars I want are just I don't know. I guess
that's just the price of life. Now you want this car,
it's ninety seven thousand dollars. I remember when like a
suburban was like fifty. But again, I'm not acting like
that's the price. That's just it is what it is.

(49:44):
Maybe she's just get a Tesla. Born and raised in Texas,
been a fan for all the DFW teams for twenty
plus years. That being said, when I was a kid,
you flipped on Fox Sports Southwest and got all the
local sports games. I love streaming and I'm glad we
are here but going. But Bally has bought the rights

(50:05):
to all the Rangers, Stars and Mavericks. Now in order
to watch them, you have to have either Ferbo or
Direct TV. Why can't I just pay to add teams
I want to watch on YouTube TV. I feel like
this is a huge fugazi and fucking me over again.
I like streaming and will gladly pay monthly to be

(50:25):
able to pick and choose whenever I get to watch. Also,
Bochie's the Man agreed, Go Rangers. Yeah, man, we are
in a transitional time as someone that defends streaming. Someone
tweeted at me this morning like it's bs. The Masters
is not on TV till three o'clock Eastern. Like, guys,
this is never changing. Augusta doesn't need any money and

(50:47):
they don't. They will not put it on broadcast TV
until like they want to do it. But there is
the Masters app and ESPN Plus. Is it perfect? No,
but it exist. I do think and listen. I don't
living in Arizona. Like when I lived in the Bay Area,
I watched all the teams I want to watch. The
Giants games are on, the Warriors games are on, and

(51:09):
I could also watch the Kings games here. I haven't
watched one Diamondback game, and I wouldn't watch Kevin Durant
and the Sons if you paid me. But I understand
if you live in your home market and want to
watch those teams. And because of the changing media landscape,
everything that happened with Bali's and these local networks it's

(51:29):
a disaster that sucks. That would piss me off too.
I think times are better now in terms of our options,
but I don't disagree. Ten years ago, if you lived
in Philly, if you lived in Texas, if you lived
in northern California, if you lived in la if you
lived in wherever, Georgia, if you want to watch your
baseball team, your basketball team, your hockey team, you knew

(51:52):
exactly where to find it every game was on. That's
not the case anymore, And I do feel for you.
I don't think it's like any some one necessarily trying
to screw you, though. I do think it's just this
transitional period of time that it's gonna have to work
itself out. Tangent Fugazi Friday topics Applying for jobs where

(52:16):
you upload your resume and then add in all the
resume feels which are on your resume in the window
field boxes. Yeah, man, I that's why you go to
LinkedIn jobs, slash John or promo code John. I've heard
I actually played golf with a guy a couple of
weeks ago that runs this company and his son is

(52:41):
about to graduate college. You're gonna come work for him
and I say, what's that like. He's like, to be
honest with you, smartest thing I ever did, because he's
been working with him over the summers the last couple
of years. When he came home, he's like, he got
me on LinkedIn, and we make so many hires on LinkedIn.
Because you don't have to do any of that. It's
already right there, it's your resume. So I I don't

(53:04):
use LinkedIn in the sense of like for job wise,
but I never talk to anybody in any industry that is,
like with the Times that doesn't utilize that. So I
don't know what kind of where you're looking for jobs
and what makes you because that would piss me off too.
I upload my two page resume, I told you everything
I do, and then I got to reput it in

(53:25):
screw you LinkedIn Man LinkedIn promo, coo, John Okay, Last One, Fugazi, Friday, Idea, subscriptions,
loyalty services without them. Everywhere has these. My local gas station,
my barbershop, the car wash. Without them. You want to

(53:46):
purchase anything, they charge you x percent more on anything.
They lock you into using them only and make you
pay per month to utilize the services, or pay an
arm and a leg for one time use, thus up
charging you for this service. It's taking over everywhere. I
just want gas and a canns in feel your brother,

(54:07):
What the fuck do I need to be a loyalty
member to get two specials? Why can't I just walk
into a place without having to pay a premium for
showing up to your door as a new customer. You
know what's funny is gas. It's a gas station, but
it has like a sweet car wash, and I've used
it twice since I've lived in Arizona because the car

(54:28):
wash is elite. But when you pull up, they hammer you.
Become a monthly member, become a monthly member. Become a
monthly member, and the monthly membership is like one hundred
bucks and a high level car wash. I mean they
have your car for like an hour and a half.
Is more than that you'd save money for you use it.
I'm like, hey, buddy, I don't drive that often. I

(54:50):
bring in here once every six months to just get
a full detail, just so it's clean, mainly for the
inside because the outside is gonna get dirty whatever, and
then I can just go through a ten dollar car wah.
But I want you the inside. I don't need a
monthly I'm not a salesman driving around. But they he's relentless,
and you're just like, hey man, I don't need it.
I do not need it. Say hey man, it'll save

(55:11):
you some money. It'll save you some money, Like, no, won't.
I don't get that many car washes. From a business standpoint,
if I was going to defend them, why insurance companies, says,
great businesses, they get monthly, reoccurring revenue. Why is this
cable destruction of the bundle and everything that's happening to,
you know, the old school cable box, fucking everybody. They

(55:34):
were used to getting all of our money every single month.
Now they don't get that anymore. So I think you're
just hoping to get a certain percentage. I mean, I
get why they do that, and I also understand from
the consumers, like shut up, I don't want it. I'll
give you for guys, anytime you walk into Low's or

(55:55):
back when you were younger and like went to malls
and shopped like Macy's or home depots, Hey, you want
a home Depot card, It'll save you what. No, I
just want this hammer and I want these nails so
I can hand a couple of pictures so everyone in
my home is happy. That's all I want. I don't
need your special credit card. I'm not fucking a carpenter here.

(56:17):
I'm just buying this nail gun. Just I just let
me purchase it in I'll leave now the one that
is worth it. Costco. I don't do free ads here,
but Costco has to be one of the most incredible companies.
I when I remodel my house, I ripped out all
the blinds, so we have not had any window coverings
or blinds. It doesn't matter as much during the winter

(56:39):
part of it was like I spent so much money.
It's like, God, these blinds are outrageously expensive. I mean,
talk about it, fugazi, like, does it really cost you
this much to make blinds and shutters? Really? I understand
they gotta cost something. We all got, you know, MOUs
defeat here. You're telling me for a tiny little windows,
twenty five hundred dollars for one fucking window. Sure, how

(57:00):
much everyone making a lot? How many hands were in
the cookie jar on this one, but it is what
it is. I mean, you go to Costco, when you
walk out, they obviously have all those, you know, different
options for backyard whatever. Right. One of them is the
window coverings called them. Got a bid which was you know,
probably lower than some of the or equal with some
of the other ones. They send me seventeen percent back

(57:22):
in a debit card to go shop at Costco, which
I would anyway, and they send me two percent of
everything I spent at the end of the year as
an executive member. What a business and wonder. Charlie Munger
called it the greatest business of all time. Okay, happy
for guysy Friday, have a great weekend watching the Master's talk.
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