April 15, 2024 • 31 mins
More thoughts on what to expect in the NBA playoffs
The NBA teams that will be under the most pressure in the playoffs
Guest: Eddie House
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, we were talking earlier about it's not just getting
a star in the NBA, it's getting the right star
who's the hardest worker in the locker room. Because of
the NBA locker rooms are so small, a star player
can have massive impact on the court off the court,
and it's why Jalen Brunson is a fascinating player for
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the Knicks. Eddie House Fox Sports seven playoffs, eleven years,
couple of finals appearances. Bruns It's interesting because he got
that chip because second round guy Dallas let him go.
And when you watch him when Julius Randall got hurt,
it's like, oh, now the offense, he doesn't have to
get anybody touches. It's him and a bunch of kids.
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Are the Knicks a viable playoff team or are Eddie?
Are they just too Jalen Brunson dependent to do anything. No.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think they're definitely a viable playoff team number one.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You know, they work theirself into that second slot.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know, if we go back a few weeks ago,
they were they were hovering around the midpack of the
playoffs and things like that, and they just hit that corner.
The og Ananoby they're twenty and three since he came over.
One thing about the New York Knicks. They play defense
and they get after it. They play hard on those
defense and then they test your discipline with their offense.
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They test your defensive discipline and then how they play defense,
they test your offensive discipline as well. And I think
that the team just flows better with Julius Randall. Ott
I said that earlier today on Carton and it kind
of sounds crazy when with you know, Julius Randall being
an all star type player, you would think you wouldn't
think think that taking him away that that opens up
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the floor and makes the offense flow a whole lot better.
They're extremely tough, and I think moving up in the
second to the second slot, the second seed, with all
the momentum they got, I think they got the most
momentum going into the playoffs, and that counts with something.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you ad Doc Rivers, you know him well now
Jannie has heard Indiana place fast. Halliburton's virtually unguardable. I mean,
Milwaukee's in a weird spot where you know, they fire
a coach had had a winning record, they bring in Doc.
The Dame thing hasn't been ideal. Does it feel like
to you with Boston's emergence, the nick Knicks playing the
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best basketball Dallas, Denver? Does it feel like to you
the Bucks window? This is an old, old team without
great first round draft capital that Eddie. Sometimes these windows
they close and they close really quickly. Boston's is going
to be open for six years, Denver six years? Okay,
Seas is about to open. Your take way in the
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Bucks right now? Going forward?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And they did exactly the opposite of what the Knicks did.
The Knicks played theirself into the second. They they lost
their way to the third seed, you know, and I
think they are seventeen and nineteen since Docs taken over.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I can't quite put my finger on this team except
two things. They lose Drew Holliday and nobody talks about
how they lost Grayson Allen. Those were two tough perimeter defenders.
Now and you look at this clip, look at their offense.
Everybody's standing right next to each other or they're standing still.
Their offense doesn't flow, and I think it all starts
stems from their defense. They have no defensive continuity because
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brook Lopez is not the same Brook Lopez of.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Two years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because they don't have the same perimeter defense. The perimeter
defense is getting killed and they're putting a lot of
pressure on brook Lopez, who I feel has lost a
step or two, especially his lateral movements not the same.
So you're able to attack them because he's going to
stand that drop coverage. And with that drop coverage, they're
not fighting over the screen like Drew Holliday fought over
the screen. They're not fighting over the screen like Grayson
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all was fighting over the screen consistently. Now they brought
in Patrick beverleive, it just hasn't made a change. I
think that they allow their lack of defense to affect
their offense.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
There's just no continuity there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Also, I don't know, it could be something going on
in that locker room where where guys just aren't all
the way together on the same page because it is weird.
I won't say that they window is closed, but that
thing coming down right now.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Sure, so, jam Ack and I talked about this. Oklahoma
City's future is amazing. But they're twenty two year old kids.
This is the youngest playoff team we saw the Packers
in the NFL playoffs. You can just tell they're a
year away. And okay, see, let's say they got matched
up with the Lakers or an older team like a Warriors.
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I tend to lean with veterans in the playoffs. They
manipulate the refs, they manipulate the whistle, they manipulate older
guys have been around this league. They just in situational basketball,
are better than young teams. How do you view OKAC
What if they get bounced in a seven game series
in the opening round, Is it a failed season?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I wouldn't. I would say it wouldn't be a failed season.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't think that they nobody expected them to be there,
so they already exceeded their expectations that everybody had coming
into the season.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I would say, with what they.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Have done, I will have if I had a vote,
I will vote SGA for the MVP because nobody expected
them to be number one. Yeah, you probably the bottom
half of the you know, maybe six, five, six, somewhere
around there, maybe four if they got hot and got
lucky a few games.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But to be number one and be floating at the.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Top of the Western Conference all season long and SGA
balling the way he has, I would say that it
wouldn't be a failure, maybe in their eyes, because it
looks like they believe, They believe in their coach, they
play together, they have trust with one another and trust
within their coach. The one thing about it is you
don't know until you get there, right, So I lean
towards experience as well. But the one thing about these
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young players they haven't been there, but maybe they don't care.
And maybe having that reckless, don't care a type of
approach to the game, maybe that helps them get over
to hump in a seven game series against a tough
veteran team. So I'm not going to count them out.
You gotta believe what you see all season long. You
don't stay at the top of any conference in the
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NBA without being a real basketball team.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah, So here we go. Is it the end? Warriors?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Steph or Lebron. Lebron and Steph have been in eleven
finals in thirteen years. It does feel like to me
that the league is now making a pivot. Is that
outside of Milwaukee, Boston's younger players in their prime, Denver's younger,
Okse's younger, the t Wolves best player as a kid.
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And I'm looking at the Hardens and the Lebron's and
the staffs and the Clays and Draymond. I kind of
feel like this point forward, it's a new league. It's
more international, it's more young stars and young teams. Do
you think Stephan Lebron's teams are viable? Or maybe last
year in the year before when the Warriors stole that
Celtics final, is the Is the league moving on? And
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I'm talking like playoff success on from Steph and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, it sort of looks like it to where
they're in the playing game, you wouldn't expect with.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
The roster that they got constructed.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know, pretty much the same guys coming back and
they're in the playing game, right one is got to
win two games to get the eighth seed. So when
I look at it in that in that light, the
way you made that gave me that question. I do
gotta say that it looks like the league is kind
of pivoting from that, but I would never bet against
neither one of those teams. Like Lebron with a triple
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double yesterday, I mean, come on, and you gotta be careful.
You got to listen to what Lebron say because he
is very cryptic. He said, I have to do everything,
and I think that that was lightweight to shot at
the rest of his teammates, like, man, I gotta assist,
I got a rebound, I gotta play defense, I gotta score.
I need some help. I think that was a subliminal
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shot to them.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But as long as he's on the floor, you can't
count them out.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Anthony Davis got to be healthy as long as Steph
Curry's on the floor. And by the way, the last
couple of weeks, I would say this that the Golden
State Warriors have been playing their best brand of basketball.
I think Klay Thompson, finally, after dealing with two lower
extremity injuries, the achilles and the knee, finally has his
legs underneath him. It takes a long time for that
trust to come. And while you're trying to get that trust.
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You're still trying to work on your game. I think
he's got his legs and the trust of his legs.
Now the rest of his game is starting to come around.
He looks like himself. He's getting shots in the way
that he normally gets shots, in the position that he
gets shots, and he looks like he's starting to move
a whole lot better and trust and trust his game.
So I would never count those two guys out. But
the league is in a fantastic place, all them, all
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them guys you name. I mean, talk about Orlando and
their young players. They got Polo Bankero, I mean, he's
a baller. I mean, the league is in a great
place right now with young talent.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is there finally you do Celtics games. Is there one
Eastern team that maybe not beats Boston but matches up
well that they could give him headaches? I mean, Indiana,
It could be a matchup problem for everybody. But is
there a team you look at and think, yeah, they
match up with Boston pretty well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I would say the Knicks is probably the most dangerous
team right now, just the way they're playing.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Number One, they're super physical. Yeah, just the Thursday.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
On Thursday, they played the Celtics and out rebounded US
by sixteen. I think it was seventeen to two second
chance points something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
They really get after it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Since adding O g Ananobe, their their defenseve identity has changed.
Brunton puts a lot of pressure on you with the
pick and roll. I think that that game on Thursday,
we were able to the Celtics were able to try
to get some footage on how they'll give him different looks.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You can't give him the same look.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I have to say that it is the Knicks
just on the on the fact that they're playing the.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Best basketball in the league right now.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They have all the momentum going in and they believe,
they play hard and they're just super super physical.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Eddie House first things first, after us as always good seeing.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You, man, Yeah, thanks for having me man.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Knicks are interesting because they're not terribly functional offensively when
Jalen Brunson's not on the floor, much like the Warriors
without Steph, not really functional. So the offense in Golden
State has to go through Steph, in New York has
to go through Brunson. But you know, in the regular season,
what's great about the playoffs? J Mack, And this is
why we like it. It looks different major League Baseball
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in the playoffs. Maybe the crowds are bigger in the NFL,
there's more intensity NBA basketball. Playoff basketball does not feel
like regular season basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
It doesn't at all.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
And that's why I'm reluctant to keep saying stuff like, oh,
the Lakers smash the Pelicans three times in the regular season,
beat them. I think there are three wins, were each
by ten or more points. It's like handily beating them.
And I just I don't know. Postseason is different. I
mean Zion Williamson, did you see his effort in the
season finale Sunday, barely trying? Yeah, like eight points. I
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don't think we're gonna see that in the plane, right.
He's gonna be a different guy postseason, different animal, Colin yep.
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Speaker 5 (11:22):
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Speaker 2 (11:26):
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Speaker 6 (11:29):
Let's start with the Bills and they moved off Stefan
Digs this offseason. Trading him to the Texans draft is
two less than two weeks away. Buffalo probably gonna get
a receiver early. But what about was the twenty eighth pick.
Von Miller posted this AI generated clip of Buffalo's GM
with the caption Brandon Bean arriving to the twenty twenty
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four NFL Draft to trade up for a receiver in
being we trust. I saw this clip everywhere over the weekend,
not just being people did it with the guy from
the Master Scheffler AI work. Yeah, it's AI work. AI
is getting dangerous. Man, it's really good.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Is that what AI can do?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Dude, have you seen some of the other clips?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Insane?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah, it's really impressive. Bill's trading up for a receiver.
Trading upper receiver.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I wouldn't. I think there's so many good receivers.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Talking to somebody in the league this weekend, just texting him, texting, talking,
and I mentioned a certain receiver and he's like, way
too high, you'll get him in the third and I'm
like that kind of the third.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It was that Lad McConkey, buy a chance, Jeorge's get him.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Huh, Georgia good player.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, but he's got a lot of chatter that he
may be like an early second round back. I don't
necessarily see it. I'm just making sure he's not out there.
So the guy that I'm kind of into. Usually with
the draft, when you don't hear people talking about him, that's.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
When there's real buzz. Right, they don't want it out there.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Keep an eye on Devantes Walker, the kid from UNC
who was catching passes from Drake may weirdly a lot
of buzz looks the part.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I mean, he's like jacked.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
He didn't play a lot because of some beef with
the NCAA. But just keep an eye on this kid.
Would not be shocked if Buffalo took the gable. He's
like Gabe Davis but can run better routes.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Buffalo needs a receiver battle, Oh no, they arguably need two. Yeah,
I mean they got tied end running back, quarterback onlines. Okay,
lost their center. It's a great center draft, but they
I mean, Buffalo's got some questions. They have to go
out and get a corner.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Who do you think get second in the division, Buffalo
or Miami.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Second in the division?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, first is Jets.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
So you know that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, Buffalo's gonna win the division if Aaron plays seventeen games,
If Aaron Rodgers plays seventeen games, I think the Jets
have a chance at two.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Have a chance. So you put the let's not do
steak dinners anymore, you owe me too many. We'll just
we'll just start the slate fresh. Well, dude, like us,
what do we do? Like you do ice cream? Do
you not?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Can't do ice cream?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Unfortunately, guys, we need some thing to wager that the
Jets will win the division because they are Have you
seen the.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Roster, it's stacked. It's so good.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
If Aaron plays, it's a good team.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
The Bills of the Dolphins lost a lot of guys.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Bills are a better team.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Anyways, let's move to the NBA. Oh, this is fun,
this is really good.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
So Jamal Murray was asked about the NBA duos and
he believes he and Jokich are the best duo in
the league.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
In an interview with USA Today, Murray said, the Nuggets duo.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Is undoubtedly, undoubtedly number one, ahead of Lebron and A
d Jannis and Dame Luka and Kyrie. So we thought
we do our top five colin here are mine, obviously
Jokich and Murray defending champs.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I have Luka Kyrie two. When they play together, it's
game over. Lebron and AD three. I have Tatum and
Brown four. I'm sure you don't even have them on
your list, and then I have k D and Booker five.
The only reason I don't have Giannis and Dame on
there is because the little I saw this year I
didn't like. Now, you could argue that they've had two coaches.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
That's unfair.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
The talent's there, but I'm sorry they didn't just miss
out a lo with Fox and some bonus.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Just all right, So what's my here's my? Uh? Do
we have mine?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yea?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I filled one out maybe okay, So oh.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
You do have Tatum and Brown on there? I'm impressed.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, I have them a slot higher than you. I
have embid in Maxie.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
No Luca Kyrie on top duos.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, i'd like to see them. I'm they're six. You
know how much I like MAXI So I get a
big and a guard. You just get two ball centric shooters.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
This is not NBA jam two on two man.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I like getting diverse. I like diversification in my portfolio.
So I think embiid the classic center and Maxi the
dynamic guard. You know, I mean, I think we mostly agree,
you have I mean you you love Luca and say
what Paul, George and kawhi uh that I replaced them
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with Embid in Maxi fair and then Luca and Kyrie
and I still listen. I know Luca's great. I want
to see him in the playoffs. I can't wait to
watch the MAVs Clippers, because I think the Clippers tend
to be a little odd and inconsistent, where I kind
of think Luca and Kyrie. But you have to be
careful about late season winning streaks. So here's two things.
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The bad teams don't mind losing. So if you play
eleven games at the end of the season and seven
or non playoff teams, those teams don't mind losing, if
you know what I'm saying. And the other teams, the
good teams may very well if they have seeding locked
not play all their stars. So I'm always a little
suspicious when a team like Dallas rolls in their last
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eighteen games. Did they play winning teams? Are they playing
tanking teams? Are they playing teams they'd meet in the playoffs.
You have to be careful in the NBA about that.
It's you and I know you get twenty games left
in the end. This is not the NFL. Suddenly substitution
patterns teams rest people.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Well, that's true, but also the MAVs that make the moves.
That's the deadline.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
They have basically two new starters, yes that they did
not have. They're a much better defensive team than the year.
By the way, eighth best duo Wembin Yama and McIntyre.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
We could probably be dominant just.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Like what they won twenty two games. It just goes
to show.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yet you get the best prospect ever in the NBA
arguably but certainly in a short list twenty two wins.
And that's the difference between the NFL and NBA draft.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You get c J. Stroud and Will Anderson.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
The Texans go from the laughing stock of the league
to playoffs and a playoff win over a good Cleveland
team in the AFC. I mean that that is that
that's why the NFL draft is insane. This this NBA
draft has like three players.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
People like, well, it's not great.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
There's no one Yama in it.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
No, there's we you know we need one Ben Yama
good fast because I don't want to hear anymore of this. Okay,
see Denver stuff. I am all in on one Minyama,
by the way, you love him or not?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Which a transcendent kid, so fun to watch. He's great, great.
It doesn't look he doesn't look or play like anybody
else in the planet.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
All right.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Final story is the paper Clips are set to host
the Mads in the first round of the playoffs. I'm
still waiting for you to text me that you got
us tickets to this game. I mean is must see TV.
But they could be without Kawhi. Leonard has not played
this month. Colin knee inflammation status uncertain.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Tyler says, hopefully cool. Why will be ready forget? This
is every year, is it not?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
We just under Steve Ballmer, a very intense guy, not
known for patients.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Aren't you over this?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Well?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Kawhi did play in sixty eight games. We'll give him
the benefit of the day. The bar and away the
most since twenty.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Like seventeen, yes, third most of his career.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm over it, Paul George, I get an effort, I
get more games.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He's not as enigmatic.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
So Kawhi is locked in.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
They signed into a deal, a bit of a team
friendly deal, which is understandable from Kawhi. If they lose
to the MAVs, we'll see what happens with Paul George
James Harden.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
I don't you go to the new building.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Steve Ballmer was legendarily demanding and impatient a Microsoft, this
this is not working and they have not played great basketball.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Little unlucky, unlucky.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But yeah, they're in trouble. I don't see how they
beat the Mass.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Now, just be careful about Dallas being red hot. Have
you inspected who they're beating?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I have not done that, but it doesn't matter. They
have the best player in the series in Luca Dante.
They do you go to a clip Let's go to
a paper Clips basket.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I would go to a Clipper Mass game. I would
go to that absolutely.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Well, last time you announced the game, they gave the
hooked you up of tickets.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Can you use your.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Superpowers to make you still have a sunburn from the
seats you sat in at the Crypto Arena?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Awful? I mean yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that series.
That's the best, I think the best. Oh Nuggets, Lakers.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
You should have seen my UFC seats. Are they smoking?
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Well?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You think I want to go sit upstairs? Come on,
j Mcker the news.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The
herd line.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Damn hooks me up. But I gotta tell you something.
You know, the only downside when I go to UFC.
So whatever they do, and it's probably a safety precaution
that you can't take pictures or video and send it
out during the fight, I can never. So I always think,
you know, when somebody furnishes me with great seats, I
want to show people, you know, this is awesome, and
I can do it before or after. But for whatever reasons,
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while I'm at the UFC fight for three and a
half hours, none of my stuff gets out of the building.
My guess is it's a safety precaution. No, it's they
want people to buy the pay per view.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Oh so you're telling me you don't take pictures of food,
but you want to flex look at my seats.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, no, no, I'm showing people like I like people
to see the experience.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I'm not showing them. I'm not filming during the fight.
I'm watching in the fight, but.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
When fighters come out where I'm sitting, you see guys
walk right past me. I want to give people like, hey,
look at this man.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But I think you're right. They shut it down so
you have to buy the pay per view, which I
don't blame them for doing.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
What do they do they collect your phones?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, it's just when I push my video and I'll
take like these thirty forty second things showing people the celebrities.
And every time I go to UFC, because you know,
I get good seats, I want to show everybody this
is great, it's fun, right, But they don't. Something's wrong
with My wife tried. She's like, I can't get my
stuff now after the fight, next morning. Before the fight,
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you ship but during the fight, I don't know the
I don't know the reason for it. But generally if
somebody furnishes me with a seat, and I don't do
a lot of that, but and if they do it,
I don't.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Even know where this was. Was it ESPN? Plus they
want people to subscribe to buy.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Right right, which I do about three or four times
a year. I buy you know, this is my fourth
UFC fight, and then I buy four or five or whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
So but I gotta say, this whole streaming stuff is
starting to get frustrating because there's so many different No,
it drives me nuts.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And I don't want to pay for ninety nine rental.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I would rather buy a UFC pay per view, a
one off. I don't mind doing that at all.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I must.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't want to be on thirty two streaming services.
If I want something, I'll just go buy UFC.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I do that all the time. I'm totally comfortable with it.
I don't want thirteen streaming services.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah, it's just watch.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And I will pay for a great sporting event. If
I had to pay for the NFL Draft, that's an
interesting topic. What would you pay for in sports? I
would pay for the Super Bowl, both conferences. I would
pay for playoff games. I'd pay for you. I do
pay for UFC. I would pay for some NBA game
sixes and sevens in the playoffs. I would pay for
big college football.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
If you would pay for the NFL Draft, yeah, I
would interesting at least the first two before.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I like the analysis. There's about I would have paid.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I would have paid for a couple of Yukon games
and then the Caitlin Clark game. There's stuff all absolute
we pay for, but there's a lot of stuff, you know.
I don't mind buying a fi've In my whole life,
I bought fights, so I don't. I kind of feel
like I just I do that five six times a year.
I just don't buy fights. I'm by UFC now, anyway,
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Speaker 1 (23:51):
High, medium, low. We're gonna play a game here. NBA
postseason pressure Cooker. Is the pressure?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Huh? You got to win, you got to make a
championship run?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Is it medium? You can't be one and done. But
there's realistic expectations. Or is the pressure cooker pretty low?
Nobody thinks you're a championship team?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
You ready to go? NBA postseason pressure cooker? You're ready,
it's sir.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
What level of pressure is on Steph Curry and the Warriors?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think it's medium for this reason, they've had so
much success. Many believe that Celtics championship was sort of
icing on the cake, but they weren't a viable team
after that six finals eight years. We kind of know
they need to make a big pivot. You don't want
to be ousted in the play in But I think
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it's pretty medium, all right.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Well, level of pressure is on deeron Fox and the Kings.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Again, there's some pressure because they disappointed last year, but
I think it's medium.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
They haven't won a.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Playoff series in nineteen seasons, so I think people have
come to terms with Okac's futures better, Denver's better now,
t Wolves better now. I think there's pressure, but it's limits.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
All right.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Let's get to pressure. How much of it's on Lebron
in the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I think it's high because Lebron had the most fourth
quarter baskets in the league. Is he gonna do that
again in year what twenty two? A D By the way,
J Mack was healthy all season, played seventy five games.
Are we gonna run that back? Is that gonna happen again?
I don't know if d Lo's in the future. What
about Darvin Ham if they get bounced badly in the
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first round or the plan.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You don't think there's gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Be even if it's my Denver, if it's ugly five games,
four not competitive. I think there's pressure on the Lakers
a D seventy five games this year, it's been great,
but I don't think history tells you you can't rely
on that.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
What level of pressure is on Zion and the Pelicans medium?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Again, I don't even think they match up with the Lakers,
particularly one. They have one playoff series win over the
last sixteen years fifteen years. Again, I think they're just
happy that Zion's available now. I think it's a football city,
tempered expectations right well.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Level of pressure is on KD in the Suns, I
think it has.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
To be high just because of age. Beal's been hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They've played well recently, but Katie has a history of injuries.
You have one great player in their prime and it's Booker.
You know, they don't have a bench, so there's limitations.
And they're the third oldest team in the league. But
I mean old teams like a Milwaukee or Phoenix. You
got to win now, So I think it's high.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
What level of pressure is on Luca and the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You would think it would be higher, but I think
because of Denver and Boston, there's an understanding that at
best of the third best team in the league. So
I say it's medium. They can't get ousted. I don't
think they'll get ousted, and Luca is the best pure score.
I think everybody's very satisfied with this. The Kyrie issue
has been solved, and six months ago we didn't know
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if this thing was gonna work. Now it's cooking. So
I think if they beat the Clippers, they can battle
in the next series for six or seven. I think
you go away saying love our future.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Okase would be a waiting in the second round. Let's
it Dallas Lynn. What level of pressure's on Kawhi and
the paper clips?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
It it has to be high.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's an old team, they're not getting healthier, You're moving
into a new arena. I mean, Westbrook off the bench
has been one of the things I love, you know,
I love Paul George, but I mean Kawhi played sixty
eight games. That's the most he's played since like twenty seventeen.
It could get worse. Harden's been, you know, typically the
enigma on every team. So I think they have to win.
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I think Balmer. Balmer's supposed to be impatient guy. We
think he likes this. If Kawhi doesn't play in the
Dallas series and they.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Get beaten five games, it probably not what level.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Of pressure is on Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves medium.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They can't get one and done because they had too
good of a season, you know, the big contracts with
them start next season, and I do think they're gonna
move Carl Anthony Towns. They figured out the go bear
situation if they can't be one and done. But if
they they if they won a series and then lost
in seven in the next series, nobody's getting fired.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Well, they're playing the Sun, So like.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is there any If they win that series, you're five
and if they lose then it's a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So that's why they have medium pressure, not low.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Okay, well, level of pressures on Jokis in the defending
champion Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think they're viewed high because I think they're viewed
as the best starting five in the NBA last year.
In this year again, you could say because they won.
But if you have the best player in the league
and the best duo in the league and you have
I mean, I think we could acknowledge they are very
good in clutch time games. They're basically Boston except we
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trust them more.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
That's what they are. They're not as deep as Bought,
they're the Otics, but we trust them more. So I
think the pressure is pretty high that they need to
get to the championship.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
We save the youngest for last. What level of pressure
is on SGA and the.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Thunder super low? Do you know this is? I think
it's the youngest team to be a number one seed.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let me ever, ever, I mean they have the second
least experience. So if any playoff team, I think if
they go in and I just don't think young teams
outside of the bubble do well, I think if they
went seven games in the first round and lost, I
think you'd say this is the natural stepper progression.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
As a one seed.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, but you got not All one seeds are the same.
Remember Duncan in his prime with the Spurs, they were
always a one seed.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Okay. So if OKC loses in.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
The first round, seven game series ex.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Seven, whatever, does the GM say, I don't know, we
can't just run this back.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Why don't we open up that war.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Chest of picks and go after Donovan mitchell O, Karl
Anthony town do we go after a big star?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think OKAC is a small market. They loved their
college football, their college basketball. If you are a consistent
playoff team in that market, you're selling tickets.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
That's the big show in town.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think Sam prest In that organization has an unbelievable future.
They've got a star in SGA. They've got their version
of Wemby. I got a war chest of picks, I think.
I think if I told you if I'd have bet
on two teams the next ten years, I'd take Denver
Celtics next five, I'd take OKC next ten.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And there you go.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Pressure cooker. Yeah, Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, Phoenix is just weird because they have played
well later, but they're so inconsistent.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Remember how Devin Booker, like what two years ago, was
considered the best young American guy and now Anthony Edwards
passed him.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I just I wish the head's going to be very
interesting in this series.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Remember how good Booker was for about eight games in
the playoffs last year, Remember they had that streak.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Well what about when they went to the finals? I
mean he was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
No, he's a great score.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
There's a little bit of Luca where I don't think
lucas a great athlete or Booker's this world class twitchy athlete.
They're just guys that walk into an arena and you
can get thirty eight on any given night. He's a
great score. Great, great score. All Right, we'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, we were talking earlier about it's not just getting
a star in the NBA, it's getting the right star
who's the hardest worker in the locker room. Because of
the NBA locker rooms are so small, a star player
can have massive impact on the court off the court,
and it's why Jalen Brunson is a fascinating player for
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the Knicks. Eddie House Fox Sports seven playoffs, eleven years,
couple of finals appearances. Bruns It's interesting because he got
that chip because second round guy Dallas let him go.
And when you watch him when Julius Randall got hurt,
it's like, oh, now the offense, he doesn't have to
get anybody touches. It's him and a bunch of kids.
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Are the Knicks a viable playoff team or are Eddie?
Are they just too Jalen Brunson dependent to do anything. No.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think they're definitely a viable playoff team number one.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You know, they work theirself into that second slot.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know, if we go back a few weeks ago,
they were they were hovering around the midpack of the
playoffs and things like that, and they just hit that corner.
The og Ananoby they're twenty and three since he came over.
One thing about the New York Knicks. They play defense
and they get after it. They play hard on those
defense and then they test your discipline with their offense.
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They test your defensive discipline and then how they play defense,
they test your offensive discipline as well. And I think
that the team just flows better with Julius Randall. Ott
I said that earlier today on Carton and it kind
of sounds crazy when with you know, Julius Randall being
an all star type player, you would think you wouldn't
think think that taking him away that that opens up
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the floor and makes the offense flow a whole lot better.
They're extremely tough, and I think moving up in the
second to the second slot, the second seed, with all
the momentum they got, I think they got the most
momentum going into the playoffs, and that counts with something.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, you ad Doc Rivers, you know him well now
Jannie has heard Indiana place fast. Halliburton's virtually unguardable. I mean,
Milwaukee's in a weird spot where you know, they fire
a coach had had a winning record, they bring in Doc.
The Dame thing hasn't been ideal. Does it feel like
to you with Boston's emergence, the nick Knicks playing the
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best basketball Dallas, Denver? Does it feel like to you
the Bucks window? This is an old, old team without
great first round draft capital that Eddie. Sometimes these windows
they close and they close really quickly. Boston's is going
to be open for six years, Denver six years? Okay,
Seas is about to open. Your take way in the
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Bucks right now? Going forward?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And they did exactly the opposite of what the Knicks did.
The Knicks played theirself into the second. They they lost
their way to the third seed, you know, and I
think they are seventeen and nineteen since Docs taken over.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I can't quite put my finger on this team except
two things. They lose Drew Holliday and nobody talks about
how they lost Grayson Allen. Those were two tough perimeter defenders.
Now and you look at this clip, look at their offense.
Everybody's standing right next to each other or they're standing still.
Their offense doesn't flow, and I think it all starts
stems from their defense. They have no defensive continuity because
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brook Lopez is not the same Brook Lopez of.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Two years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because they don't have the same perimeter defense. The perimeter
defense is getting killed and they're putting a lot of
pressure on brook Lopez, who I feel has lost a
step or two, especially his lateral movements not the same.
So you're able to attack them because he's going to
stand that drop coverage. And with that drop coverage, they're
not fighting over the screen like Drew Holliday fought over
the screen. They're not fighting over the screen like Grayson
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all was fighting over the screen consistently. Now they brought
in Patrick beverleive, it just hasn't made a change. I
think that they allow their lack of defense to affect
their offense.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
There's just no continuity there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Also, I don't know, it could be something going on
in that locker room where where guys just aren't all
the way together on the same page because it is weird.
I won't say that they window is closed, but that
thing coming down right now.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Sure, so, jam Ack and I talked about this. Oklahoma
City's future is amazing. But they're twenty two year old kids.
This is the youngest playoff team we saw the Packers
in the NFL playoffs. You can just tell they're a
year away. And okay, see, let's say they got matched
up with the Lakers or an older team like a Warriors.
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I tend to lean with veterans in the playoffs. They
manipulate the refs, they manipulate the whistle, they manipulate older
guys have been around this league. They just in situational basketball,
are better than young teams. How do you view OKAC
What if they get bounced in a seven game series
in the opening round, Is it a failed season?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I wouldn't. I would say it wouldn't be a failed season.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't think that they nobody expected them to be there,
so they already exceeded their expectations that everybody had coming
into the season.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I would say, with what they.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Have done, I will have if I had a vote,
I will vote SGA for the MVP because nobody expected
them to be number one. Yeah, you probably the bottom
half of the you know, maybe six, five, six, somewhere
around there, maybe four if they got hot and got
lucky a few games.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But to be number one and be floating at the.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Top of the Western Conference all season long and SGA
balling the way he has, I would say that it
wouldn't be a failure, maybe in their eyes, because it
looks like they believe, They believe in their coach, they
play together, they have trust with one another and trust
within their coach. The one thing about it is you
don't know until you get there, right, So I lean
towards experience as well. But the one thing about these
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young players they haven't been there, but maybe they don't care.
And maybe having that reckless, don't care a type of
approach to the game, maybe that helps them get over
to hump in a seven game series against a tough
veteran team. So I'm not going to count them out.
You gotta believe what you see all season long. You
don't stay at the top of any conference in the
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NBA without being a real basketball team.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah, So here we go. Is it the end? Warriors?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Steph or Lebron. Lebron and Steph have been in eleven
finals in thirteen years. It does feel like to me
that the league is now making a pivot. Is that
outside of Milwaukee, Boston's younger players in their prime, Denver's younger,
Okse's younger, the t Wolves best player as a kid.
(06:45):
And I'm looking at the Hardens and the Lebron's and
the staffs and the Clays and Draymond. I kind of
feel like this point forward, it's a new league. It's
more international, it's more young stars and young teams. Do
you think Stephan Lebron's teams are viable? Or maybe last
year in the year before when the Warriors stole that
Celtics final, is the Is the league moving on? And
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I'm talking like playoff success on from Steph and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, it sort of looks like it to where
they're in the playing game, you wouldn't expect with.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
The roster that they got constructed.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know, pretty much the same guys coming back and
they're in the playing game, right one is got to
win two games to get the eighth seed. So when
I look at it in that in that light, the
way you made that gave me that question. I do
gotta say that it looks like the league is kind
of pivoting from that, but I would never bet against
neither one of those teams. Like Lebron with a triple
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double yesterday, I mean, come on, and you gotta be careful.
You got to listen to what Lebron say because he
is very cryptic. He said, I have to do everything,
and I think that that was lightweight to shot at
the rest of his teammates, like, man, I gotta assist,
I got a rebound, I gotta play defense, I gotta score.
I need some help. I think that was a subliminal
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shot to them.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But as long as he's on the floor, you can't
count them out.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Anthony Davis got to be healthy as long as Steph
Curry's on the floor. And by the way, the last
couple of weeks, I would say this that the Golden
State Warriors have been playing their best brand of basketball.
I think Klay Thompson, finally, after dealing with two lower
extremity injuries, the achilles and the knee, finally has his
legs underneath him. It takes a long time for that
trust to come. And while you're trying to get that trust.
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You're still trying to work on your game. I think
he's got his legs and the trust of his legs.
Now the rest of his game is starting to come around.
He looks like himself. He's getting shots in the way
that he normally gets shots, in the position that he
gets shots, and he looks like he's starting to move
a whole lot better and trust and trust his game.
So I would never count those two guys out. But
the league is in a fantastic place, all them, all
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them guys you name. I mean, talk about Orlando and
their young players. They got Polo Bankero, I mean, he's
a baller. I mean, the league is in a great
place right now with young talent.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is there finally you do Celtics games. Is there one
Eastern team that maybe not beats Boston but matches up
well that they could give him headaches? I mean, Indiana,
It could be a matchup problem for everybody. But is
there a team you look at and think, yeah, they
match up with Boston pretty well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I would say the Knicks is probably the most dangerous
team right now, just the way they're playing.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Number One, they're super physical. Yeah, just the Thursday.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
On Thursday, they played the Celtics and out rebounded US
by sixteen. I think it was seventeen to two second
chance points something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
They really get after it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Since adding O g Ananobe, their their defenseve identity has changed.
Brunton puts a lot of pressure on you with the
pick and roll. I think that that game on Thursday,
we were able to the Celtics were able to try
to get some footage on how they'll give him different looks.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You can't give him the same look.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I have to say that it is the Knicks
just on the on the fact that they're playing the.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Best basketball in the league right now.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They have all the momentum going in and they believe,
they play hard and they're just super super physical.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Eddie House first things first, after us as always good seeing.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You, man, Yeah, thanks for having me man.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Knicks are interesting because they're not terribly functional offensively when
Jalen Brunson's not on the floor, much like the Warriors
without Steph, not really functional. So the offense in Golden
State has to go through Steph, in New York has
to go through Brunson. But you know, in the regular season,
what's great about the playoffs? J Mack, And this is
why we like it. It looks different major League Baseball
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in the playoffs. Maybe the crowds are bigger in the NFL,
there's more intensity NBA basketball. Playoff basketball does not feel
like regular season basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
It doesn't at all.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
And that's why I'm reluctant to keep saying stuff like, oh,
the Lakers smash the Pelicans three times in the regular season,
beat them. I think there are three wins, were each
by ten or more points. It's like handily beating them.
And I just I don't know. Postseason is different. I
mean Zion Williamson, did you see his effort in the
season finale Sunday, barely trying? Yeah, like eight points. I
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don't think we're gonna see that in the plane, right.
He's gonna be a different guy postseason, different animal, Colin yep.
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Speaker 6 (11:29):
Let's start with the Bills and they moved off Stefan
Digs this offseason. Trading him to the Texans draft is
two less than two weeks away. Buffalo probably gonna get
a receiver early. But what about was the twenty eighth pick.
Von Miller posted this AI generated clip of Buffalo's GM
with the caption Brandon Bean arriving to the twenty twenty
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four NFL Draft to trade up for a receiver in
being we trust. I saw this clip everywhere over the weekend,
not just being people did it with the guy from
the Master Scheffler AI work. Yeah, it's AI work. AI
is getting dangerous. Man, it's really good.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Is that what AI can do?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Dude, have you seen some of the other clips?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Insane?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah, it's really impressive. Bill's trading up for a receiver.
Trading upper receiver.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I wouldn't. I think there's so many good receivers.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Talking to somebody in the league this weekend, just texting him, texting, talking,
and I mentioned a certain receiver and he's like, way
too high, you'll get him in the third and I'm
like that kind of the third.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It was that Lad McConkey, buy a chance, Jeorge's get him.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Huh, Georgia good player.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, but he's got a lot of chatter that he
may be like an early second round back. I don't
necessarily see it. I'm just making sure he's not out there.
So the guy that I'm kind of into. Usually with
the draft, when you don't hear people talking about him, that's.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
When there's real buzz. Right, they don't want it out there.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Keep an eye on Devantes Walker, the kid from UNC
who was catching passes from Drake may weirdly a lot
of buzz looks the part.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I mean, he's like jacked.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
He didn't play a lot because of some beef with
the NCAA. But just keep an eye on this kid.
Would not be shocked if Buffalo took the gable. He's
like Gabe Davis but can run better routes.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Buffalo needs a receiver battle, Oh no, they arguably need two. Yeah,
I mean they got tied end running back, quarterback onlines. Okay,
lost their center. It's a great center draft, but they
I mean, Buffalo's got some questions. They have to go
out and get a corner.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Who do you think get second in the division, Buffalo
or Miami.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Second in the division?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, first is Jets.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
So you know that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, Buffalo's gonna win the division if Aaron plays seventeen games,
If Aaron Rodgers plays seventeen games, I think the Jets
have a chance at two.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Have a chance. So you put the let's not do
steak dinners anymore, you owe me too many. We'll just
we'll just start the slate fresh. Well, dude, like us,
what do we do? Like you do ice cream? Do
you not?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Can't do ice cream?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Unfortunately, guys, we need some thing to wager that the
Jets will win the division because they are Have you
seen the.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Roster, it's stacked. It's so good.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
If Aaron plays, it's a good team.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
The Bills of the Dolphins lost a lot of guys.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Bills are a better team.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Anyways, let's move to the NBA. Oh, this is fun,
this is really good.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
So Jamal Murray was asked about the NBA duos and
he believes he and Jokich are the best duo in
the league.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
In an interview with USA Today, Murray said, the Nuggets duo.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Is undoubtedly, undoubtedly number one, ahead of Lebron and A
d Jannis and Dame Luka and Kyrie. So we thought
we do our top five colin here are mine, obviously
Jokich and Murray defending champs.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I have Luka Kyrie two. When they play together, it's
game over. Lebron and AD three. I have Tatum and
Brown four. I'm sure you don't even have them on
your list, and then I have k D and Booker five.
The only reason I don't have Giannis and Dame on
there is because the little I saw this year I
didn't like. Now, you could argue that they've had two coaches.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
That's unfair.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
The talent's there, but I'm sorry they didn't just miss
out a lo with Fox and some bonus.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Just all right, So what's my here's my? Uh? Do
we have mine?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yea?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I filled one out maybe okay, So oh.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
You do have Tatum and Brown on there? I'm impressed.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, I have them a slot higher than you. I
have embid in Maxie.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
No Luca Kyrie on top duos.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, i'd like to see them. I'm they're six. You
know how much I like MAXI So I get a
big and a guard. You just get two ball centric shooters.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
This is not NBA jam two on two man.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I like getting diverse. I like diversification in my portfolio.
So I think embiid the classic center and Maxi the
dynamic guard. You know, I mean, I think we mostly agree,
you have I mean you you love Luca and say
what Paul, George and kawhi uh that I replaced them
(15:57):
with Embid in Maxi fair and then Luca and Kyrie
and I still listen. I know Luca's great. I want
to see him in the playoffs. I can't wait to
watch the MAVs Clippers, because I think the Clippers tend
to be a little odd and inconsistent, where I kind
of think Luca and Kyrie. But you have to be
careful about late season winning streaks. So here's two things.
(16:20):
The bad teams don't mind losing. So if you play
eleven games at the end of the season and seven
or non playoff teams, those teams don't mind losing, if
you know what I'm saying. And the other teams, the
good teams may very well if they have seeding locked
not play all their stars. So I'm always a little
suspicious when a team like Dallas rolls in their last
(16:43):
eighteen games. Did they play winning teams? Are they playing
tanking teams? Are they playing teams they'd meet in the playoffs.
You have to be careful in the NBA about that.
It's you and I know you get twenty games left
in the end. This is not the NFL. Suddenly substitution
patterns teams rest people.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Well, that's true, but also the MAVs that make the moves.
That's the deadline.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
They have basically two new starters, yes that they did
not have. They're a much better defensive team than the year.
By the way, eighth best duo Wembin Yama and McIntyre.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
We could probably be dominant just.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Like what they won twenty two games. It just goes
to show.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yet you get the best prospect ever in the NBA
arguably but certainly in a short list twenty two wins.
And that's the difference between the NFL and NBA draft.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You get c J. Stroud and Will Anderson.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
The Texans go from the laughing stock of the league
to playoffs and a playoff win over a good Cleveland
team in the AFC. I mean that that is that
that's why the NFL draft is insane. This this NBA
draft has like three players.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
People like, well, it's not great.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
There's no one Yama in it.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
No, there's we you know we need one Ben Yama
good fast because I don't want to hear anymore of this. Okay,
see Denver stuff. I am all in on one Minyama,
by the way, you love him or not?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Which a transcendent kid, so fun to watch. He's great, great.
It doesn't look he doesn't look or play like anybody
else in the planet.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
All right.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Final story is the paper Clips are set to host
the Mads in the first round of the playoffs. I'm
still waiting for you to text me that you got
us tickets to this game. I mean is must see TV.
But they could be without Kawhi. Leonard has not played
this month. Colin knee inflammation status uncertain.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Tyler says, hopefully cool. Why will be ready forget? This
is every year, is it not?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
We just under Steve Ballmer, a very intense guy, not
known for patients.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Aren't you over this?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Well?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Kawhi did play in sixty eight games. We'll give him
the benefit of the day. The bar and away the
most since twenty.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Like seventeen, yes, third most of his career.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm over it, Paul George, I get an effort, I
get more games.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He's not as enigmatic.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
So Kawhi is locked in.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
They signed into a deal, a bit of a team
friendly deal, which is understandable from Kawhi. If they lose
to the MAVs, we'll see what happens with Paul George
James Harden.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
I don't you go to the new building.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Steve Ballmer was legendarily demanding and impatient a Microsoft, this
this is not working and they have not played great basketball.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Little unlucky, unlucky.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But yeah, they're in trouble. I don't see how they
beat the Mass.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Now, just be careful about Dallas being red hot. Have
you inspected who they're beating?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I have not done that, but it doesn't matter. They
have the best player in the series in Luca Dante.
They do you go to a clip Let's go to
a paper Clips basket.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I would go to a Clipper Mass game. I would
go to that absolutely.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Well, last time you announced the game, they gave the
hooked you up of tickets.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Can you use your.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Superpowers to make you still have a sunburn from the
seats you sat in at the Crypto Arena?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Awful? I mean yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that series.
That's the best, I think the best. Oh Nuggets, Lakers.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
You should have seen my UFC seats. Are they smoking?
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Well?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You think I want to go sit upstairs? Come on,
j Mcker the news.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The
herd line.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Damn hooks me up. But I gotta tell you something.
You know, the only downside when I go to UFC.
So whatever they do, and it's probably a safety precaution
that you can't take pictures or video and send it
out during the fight, I can never. So I always think,
you know, when somebody furnishes me with great seats, I
want to show people, you know, this is awesome, and
I can do it before or after. But for whatever reasons,
(20:36):
while I'm at the UFC fight for three and a
half hours, none of my stuff gets out of the building.
My guess is it's a safety precaution. No, it's they
want people to buy the pay per view.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Oh so you're telling me you don't take pictures of food,
but you want to flex look at my seats.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, no, no, I'm showing people like I like people
to see the experience.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I'm not showing them. I'm not filming during the fight.
I'm watching in the fight, but.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
When fighters come out where I'm sitting, you see guys
walk right past me. I want to give people like, hey,
look at this man.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But I think you're right. They shut it down so
you have to buy the pay per view, which I
don't blame them for doing.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
What do they do they collect your phones?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, it's just when I push my video and I'll
take like these thirty forty second things showing people the celebrities.
And every time I go to UFC, because you know,
I get good seats, I want to show everybody this
is great, it's fun, right, But they don't. Something's wrong
with My wife tried. She's like, I can't get my
stuff now after the fight, next morning. Before the fight,
(21:36):
you ship but during the fight, I don't know the
I don't know the reason for it. But generally if
somebody furnishes me with a seat, and I don't do
a lot of that, but and if they do it,
I don't.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Even know where this was. Was it ESPN? Plus they
want people to subscribe to buy.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Right right, which I do about three or four times
a year. I buy you know, this is my fourth
UFC fight, and then I buy four or five or whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
So but I gotta say, this whole streaming stuff is
starting to get frustrating because there's so many different No,
it drives me nuts.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And I don't want to pay for ninety nine rental.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I would rather buy a UFC pay per view, a
one off. I don't mind doing that at all.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I must.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't want to be on thirty two streaming services.
If I want something, I'll just go buy UFC.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I do that all the time. I'm totally comfortable with it.
I don't want thirteen streaming services.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah, it's just watch.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And I will pay for a great sporting event. If
I had to pay for the NFL Draft, that's an
interesting topic. What would you pay for in sports? I
would pay for the Super Bowl, both conferences. I would
pay for playoff games. I'd pay for you. I do
pay for UFC. I would pay for some NBA game
sixes and sevens in the playoffs. I would pay for
big college football.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
If you would pay for the NFL Draft, yeah, I
would interesting at least the first two before.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I like the analysis. There's about I would have paid.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I would have paid for a couple of Yukon games
and then the Caitlin Clark game. There's stuff all absolute
we pay for, but there's a lot of stuff, you know.
I don't mind buying a fi've In my whole life,
I bought fights, so I don't. I kind of feel
like I just I do that five six times a year.
I just don't buy fights. I'm by UFC now, anyway,
(23:15):
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Speaker 1 (23:51):
High, medium, low. We're gonna play a game here. NBA
postseason pressure Cooker. Is the pressure?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Huh? You got to win, you got to make a
championship run?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Is it medium? You can't be one and done. But
there's realistic expectations. Or is the pressure cooker pretty low?
Nobody thinks you're a championship team?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
You ready to go? NBA postseason pressure cooker? You're ready,
it's sir.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
What level of pressure is on Steph Curry and the Warriors?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think it's medium for this reason, they've had so
much success. Many believe that Celtics championship was sort of
icing on the cake, but they weren't a viable team
after that six finals eight years. We kind of know
they need to make a big pivot. You don't want
to be ousted in the play in But I think
(24:43):
it's pretty medium, all right.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Well, level of pressure is on deeron Fox and the Kings.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Again, there's some pressure because they disappointed last year, but
I think it's medium.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
They haven't won a.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Playoff series in nineteen seasons, so I think people have
come to terms with Okac's futures better, Denver's better now,
t Wolves better now. I think there's pressure, but it's limits.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
All right.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Let's get to pressure. How much of it's on Lebron
in the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I think it's high because Lebron had the most fourth
quarter baskets in the league. Is he gonna do that
again in year what twenty two? A D By the way,
J Mack was healthy all season, played seventy five games.
Are we gonna run that back? Is that gonna happen again?
I don't know if d Lo's in the future. What
about Darvin Ham if they get bounced badly in the
(25:35):
first round or the plan.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You don't think there's gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Be even if it's my Denver, if it's ugly five games,
four not competitive. I think there's pressure on the Lakers
a D seventy five games this year, it's been great,
but I don't think history tells you you can't rely
on that.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
What level of pressure is on Zion and the Pelicans medium?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Again, I don't even think they match up with the Lakers,
particularly one. They have one playoff series win over the
last sixteen years fifteen years. Again, I think they're just
happy that Zion's available now. I think it's a football city,
tempered expectations right well.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Level of pressure is on KD in the Suns, I
think it has.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
To be high just because of age. Beal's been hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They've played well recently, but Katie has a history of injuries.
You have one great player in their prime and it's Booker.
You know, they don't have a bench, so there's limitations.
And they're the third oldest team in the league. But
I mean old teams like a Milwaukee or Phoenix. You
got to win now, So I think it's high.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
What level of pressure is on Luca and the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You would think it would be higher, but I think
because of Denver and Boston, there's an understanding that at
best of the third best team in the league. So
I say it's medium. They can't get ousted. I don't
think they'll get ousted, and Luca is the best pure score.
I think everybody's very satisfied with this. The Kyrie issue
has been solved, and six months ago we didn't know
(27:07):
if this thing was gonna work. Now it's cooking. So
I think if they beat the Clippers, they can battle
in the next series for six or seven. I think
you go away saying love our future.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Okase would be a waiting in the second round. Let's
it Dallas Lynn. What level of pressure's on Kawhi and
the paper clips?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
It it has to be high.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's an old team, they're not getting healthier, You're moving
into a new arena. I mean, Westbrook off the bench
has been one of the things I love, you know,
I love Paul George, but I mean Kawhi played sixty
eight games. That's the most he's played since like twenty seventeen.
It could get worse. Harden's been, you know, typically the
enigma on every team. So I think they have to win.
(27:47):
I think Balmer. Balmer's supposed to be impatient guy. We
think he likes this. If Kawhi doesn't play in the
Dallas series and they.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Get beaten five games, it probably not what level.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Of pressure is on Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves medium.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They can't get one and done because they had too
good of a season, you know, the big contracts with
them start next season, and I do think they're gonna
move Carl Anthony Towns. They figured out the go bear
situation if they can't be one and done. But if
they they if they won a series and then lost
in seven in the next series, nobody's getting fired.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Well, they're playing the Sun, So like.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is there any If they win that series, you're five
and if they lose then it's a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So that's why they have medium pressure, not low.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Okay, well, level of pressures on Jokis in the defending
champion Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think they're viewed high because I think they're viewed
as the best starting five in the NBA last year.
In this year again, you could say because they won.
But if you have the best player in the league
and the best duo in the league and you have
I mean, I think we could acknowledge they are very
good in clutch time games. They're basically Boston except we
(28:56):
trust them more.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
That's what they are. They're not as deep as Bought,
they're the Otics, but we trust them more. So I
think the pressure is pretty high that they need to
get to the championship.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
We save the youngest for last. What level of pressure
is on SGA and the.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Thunder super low? Do you know this is? I think
it's the youngest team to be a number one seed.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let me ever, ever, I mean they have the second
least experience. So if any playoff team, I think if
they go in and I just don't think young teams
outside of the bubble do well, I think if they
went seven games in the first round and lost, I
think you'd say this is the natural stepper progression.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
As a one seed.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, but you got not All one seeds are the same.
Remember Duncan in his prime with the Spurs, they were
always a one seed.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Okay. So if OKC loses in.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
The first round, seven game series ex.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Seven, whatever, does the GM say, I don't know, we
can't just run this back.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Why don't we open up that war.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Chest of picks and go after Donovan mitchell O, Karl
Anthony town do we go after a big star?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think OKAC is a small market. They loved their
college football, their college basketball. If you are a consistent
playoff team in that market, you're selling tickets.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
That's the big show in town.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think Sam prest In that organization has an unbelievable future.
They've got a star in SGA. They've got their version
of Wemby. I got a war chest of picks, I think.
I think if I told you if I'd have bet
on two teams the next ten years, I'd take Denver
Celtics next five, I'd take OKC next ten.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And there you go.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Pressure cooker. Yeah, Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, Phoenix is just weird because they have played
well later, but they're so inconsistent.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Remember how Devin Booker, like what two years ago, was
considered the best young American guy and now Anthony Edwards
passed him.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I just I wish the head's going to be very
interesting in this series.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Remember how good Booker was for about eight games in
the playoffs last year, Remember they had that streak.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Well what about when they went to the finals? I
mean he was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
No, he's a great score.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
There's a little bit of Luca where I don't think
lucas a great athlete or Booker's this world class twitchy athlete.
They're just guys that walk into an arena and you
can get thirty eight on any given night. He's a
great score. Great, great score. All Right, we'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
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