May 3, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin points out the biggest difference between the Knicks and the 76ers as New York took game 6 to advance to the second round of the playoffs
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah Here we go on to Friday. Lots to talk
about live in LA. It's the Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for Meganos
part of your day. Jmac. Very exciting, very exciting. Very
rarely is a New York team and underdog. You think
any Yankees and all that money and nick or an underdog?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not against the Patriot, But yes, they're certainly an underdog.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's an interesting shide. I don't know if I like him.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You may.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's series against Philadelphia took a lot out of them.
Fell like a conference final. Oh, there's no question. It
felt like a conference final. We start our Friday show basically,
Villanova beat the Philadelphia seventy six ers last night. Maybe
they feel just comfortable in Villanova because that's where the
school is. But the three Villanova guys Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart,
Donte DiVincenzo combined for eighty points, twenty eight assists, innumerable
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hustle plays, effort plays. They were the series. And it's
very interesting in the NBA. If you just say this
term Villanova guy, everybody knows what you're talking about. It's
like that saying you ever heard it Minnesota nice. Everybody
sort of gets it Villanova guy. They don't say that
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about Kansas guy or Kentucky guy. And those are great programs.
Villanova guys are more mature, more resourceful. They fit on
every NBA team, not every player in this league. Most
don't want to play for TIBs. Do you think it's
a coincidence that all three Villanova guys not only deal
with TIBs, they flourish with him. John Calipari, I take
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my shots at him. He used to be at Kentucky.
It was a turnstile program. The goal was John said,
this is to get rich. He didn't even care about March.
He told us get rich. At Villanova. You may get rich,
but it's about being enriched. Maybe it's like Wall Street
in Silicon Valley. You go to Wall Street as a kid,
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you want to make money. You go to Silicon Valley
you want to make money too. But there are a
lot of people there that want to change the world.
Many of the devices you and I use that make
our life better, they're not from Wall Street, They're from
Silicon Valley. It's okay to want to make money, but
is it the only goal? I always felt that that
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was Calipari's Kentucky. That was never Villanova with Jay Wright.
Be part of the community, three star kids, go to class,
help with charities, be on campus, get enriched and possibly rich.
One of the reasons, maybe the only reason these Knicks
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are so likable. Most New York teams to America are
not likable. This team's totally likable because they're defined by hustle, effort, discipline,
crashing the boards. They've got a star, and even the
star was doubted. Jalen Brunson was pushed aside by Dallas
second rounder Josh Hart's a g leaguer fourth team, Dante
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de Vincenzo his fourth team. It's an underdog team. Make
no mistake, though the better team won, the team that
showed more consistent effort. One. I know these games were close,
but so were the Nuggets and the Lakers games. But
you knew who was better. And the only reason this
thing went six is because Tyrese Maxi hit a couple
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of bombs. We found out later in the review of
the official one of them was traveling and shouldn't have
been given. This was the Knixt series. Yeah, they were close,
but I said this the other night when they lost
a close one. I felt the Knicks with a better team,
better effort, consistently. It's not a shot at Philadelphia. Love
their coach, They've got great players. I think they have
a better overall roster. But Villanova guys won the series.
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And talked after.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Villanova in the house. You said again, Villanova in the house,
Villanova in the House.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
On a serious I think on the court, it's you know,
you have the ability to bring everybody together, make adjustments,
have that open, you know, line of communication with nobody,
you know, nobody taking offense. I think everybody's you know,
goal here is to win, and it's easier when you
have two guys that you've played with only so you
know that. Sometimes when things get heated, it's it's coming
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from the right place, and then that translates to everybody,
and everybody's a to talk to each other in that way.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So the Milwaukee Bucks didn't have Jannis, No Yannis, no shot.
Indiana shot fifty four percent last night, a lot of
easy buckets without Yannis Milwaukee. Now is what happens in
the NBA, overwhelmingly when a small market gets a transcendent
player Okac with kd Lebron the first time in Cleveland,
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Shaq in Orlando, kg in Minnesota, Kareem in Milwaukee, Jannis
in Milwaukee, you win a lot, may even win a title,
but you always kind of feel like there's a ceiling.
In NBA Stars and International Soccer Stars, I've compared those
two before. They don't like ceilings. In the NFL, small
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market doesn't matter. The way the draft works, you get
mature players immediately can change you. Also, a hard cap.
It's almost hard to be terrible in the NFL. You
have to have a lousy owner. But in the NBA,
also also in the NFL, many of the most iconic
franchises are small markets Green Bay, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore.
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But that's not the case in the NBA. The Lakers,
the Knicks, the Sixers, the Warriors. For a long time,
the Chicago Bulls. Big markets stars, superstars. They go to
big cities, they attract the big cities attract the superstars.
So that's not to say the Milwaukee Bucks haven't tried.
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I mean they're running through coaches like the Sixers, Lakers,
they're running through coaches. They're trying. But the Bucks are
really really old. In fact, I believe they're the oldest
team in the league, and the old players are all
locked into their contracts. And because they've made aggressive moves,
which I appreciate Damon Drew Holliday, they don't have a
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lot of assets. They don't have first round picks. So
here's what You're gonna get the same team next year
unless you make a gigantic move, which I could understand.
If Milwaukee didn't, you can argue Jannis wasn't here. If
Jannis was here, But remember this, the Knicks are going
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to add a piece, and they're really good now, and
Boston may win a championship and have championship confidence now,
and Philadelphia has huge cap space and potentially three first
round picks. They'll make a move. This may have been
the year in the East. The Celtics still have a
little uncertainty can they win the title? The Knicks are
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very Jalen Brunson led Orlando's too young Cleveland two consistent.
Philadelphia once again disappointing at Orlando team Paul George ends
up there. Good life, Knicks get KD good luck. But
what I see happening is they've tried, they did get
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a title. They're really old. They're gonna bring the band
back and the same thing next year. For the record,
Indiana really good now not going backwards. OK, see Minnesota, Denver.
This is now a very very young league and the
Bucks are a very old team. Here was Dame after.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
It's definitely disappointing because you know how much better of
a team we are when he's on the floor, and
how much things change when he's on the floor. And
you play an entire eighty two game season, you go
through training camp, you go through all the ups and
downs of an NBA regular season, and you get to
the point where, all right, now we're going to play
for everything, and you're not whole. You know, you know't
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how the best opportunity to reach where you want to reach.
So it's straight and is disappointing, but you know it's
part of the game.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Here's the good news. They got a title, and they
have Giannis and they have Dame. So they got a
couple of great players. Damian Yanners are great, LOLd but great,
and they got a title. So it's not the end
of the world, but it kind of I've seen this
with Shaq and KG and Kareem and Kad in Oklahoma City.
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Is these international soccer stars, they're bouncing all over the
place club to club, and these NBA guy they don't
want ceilings because the international soccer guy in the NBA
star changes a franchise. Even a quarterback in the NFL
Mahomes would not be the same player without Andy Reid,
Travis Kelsey, great defense, excellent GM. You put Messy in
his prime and a team they're gonna score a lot
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of goals. You put Giannis on a team tomorrow like
Golden State, they're the heavy favorite to win the championship.
So j Mack again, they got a title. It's not
the Knicks would take one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, Dane doesn't have a title, but does it feel
the super team era is kind of over? Colin and
last offseason the Bucks ad Dame the Sun's ad Beal.
Everybody loved both those teams out in the first round.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, I think everything in life and in sports is cyclical.
So I think now the feeling is baking beats, the microwave,
the oven beats, the microwave, draft be smart. That's the
feeling now. But I always I believe this to be true.
And he could be in Hollywood, it could be in sports.
There's very little great. Tom Cruise is great. He fills
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the theater. Christopher Nolan is a director, is great, Pay
for him, go buy him. He's just too good. Tom
Cruise fills the theater. Just you know. So you know
our lifetimes. Great cuts through all the average in the world.
So you're gonna pay for great. So the idea that
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the super team has gone, Hey, you know, in a
couple of years, if Anthony Edwards is on the market
and people are gonna go pay spend money for him,
they're gonna give up rotational players, they're gonna try to
couple him with. So I think it's easy to say
now the micro away because Denver, basically with Malone didn't
went until like the eighth year. So they were. Basically,
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they baked that cake in the oven for a long time,
and okase, looks like they're baking in Minnesota. Looks like
they're But Lebron and ad did win a title a
couple of years ago, and Golden State went and got
Kadane was unbeatable, and that stuff wins too.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, so okay, see when they lose to Dallas, everybody's
gonna say they're a piece away. Go get Paul George,
go get Kevin Durant, and Okac's gonna have a tough decision.
Let's just remember though, Denver, Aaron Gordon was a top
five pick when they added him. So like, you can
bake as much as you want, but you need to
toss in some special, like you said, Yeah, Aaron Gordon
was a top five pick in the draft. He was
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an awesome play no no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean at Denver's best four players in Boston's best
four players, they all of them have great nights. Jokich
is truly great. Tatum will be classified that at I mean,
I think he's in that class. But there's a lot
of really really good. But Tatum and Yokich are great,
and the if you can have one great and a
bunch of high. I mean, Jalen Brown made an All
NBA team. He's got a max contract, so that qualifies
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as great in the world. Jalen Brown's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
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Speaker 1 (12:20):
The downside being a big brand as expectations are lofty
but often pivot into delusional and unrealistic. Here is the
story this morning. Darvin Ham, Laker coach, expected to be
fired by the end of the week. That's the story
from the Athletic Jovon Bouja, jj Reddick Tylou floated as
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the possible replacements ood boy. So the criticism when they
hired Darvin Ham was, well, he's a rookie head coach.
You can't give Lebron a rookie head coach. Yet, Well,
they had a veteran head coach, Frank Vogel, and they
ran him out, So where were you gonna go? They
went with a young guy. You tell me the top
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head coaching candidates who look at this and think great job.
Since nineteen sixty sixty one, when the Lakers moved from
Minneapolis to Los Angeles. I don't know, that's sixty five
sixty four seasons, right. They've had three great coaches, Bill Sharmon,
pat Riley and Phil Jackson. Even guys like Frank Vogel
and Paul Westhead got run out of town by a
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superstar and they won titles. So you've had three greats
a couple worked. Everybody else gets run, like nineteen other
guys got run twenty other guys. And since Phil Jackson left,
it's like the Lakers are chasing something and they've become
the dog chasing its tail. Now they just it's a turnstile.
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I mean, Darvin Ham got two years, and Mike Brown
got a year and a half, and Luke Walton got three,
but they wanted him out after two, and Mike d'An
toni got a year and a half, and Byron Scott
got two they wanted him out eighteen games into his
first year, and of a Vogel and darvinon three two
one and a half. But the rumors start literally at
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the trade deadline of year two for all these guys
trade deadline year two. No, this isn't good enough. And
I'll say it again. Denver was better this year. Last year,
you don't win twelve out of thirteen games because Jarvin
Ham had a weird substitution in the second quarter. Chris
Brussard on the latest Laker rumors with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I think it's the player's pointing fingers. I think it's
the player's ducking Blaine was he? How bad was he
when they won went to the Western Conference finals last
year in his first year?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
So I just think that this happens with Lebron's teams.
Right when they don't win, they look for skateboats. And
I'm not saying it's him, but the organization looks for skategoats.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now, some of this is when you get a big brand,
when you get a Michigan football, you know, when you
get a Kentucky basketball, you know, the expectations are through
the roof. You don't have to win championships. But I mean,
I think Lakers are saying, yeah, but we can't get
knocked out in the first round, which is why when
I suggested avoid Denver, Remember I said that hot take.
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I said, avoid Denver. You're gonna get swept by Denver.
It's okay to losing seven to OKC or Minnesota. You're
not being Denver. People were outraged, and I promised you.
I said, you lose in four or five to Denver.
Darvin Ham's in trouble, chaos. People are unhappy we predicted
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it all die on the hill of Mike Pennix. Junior
will not be a bad draft pick by the Atlanta
Falcons eventually, and it's not a darvin Ham problem. Go ahead,
go get the thirteenth best candidate. I mean, when it
got Darvin Ham and they'd run out Vogel. The only
other team that was interested in darvin Ham was Charlotte.
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We'll not a short list of nine teams. Nick right
this week on why this was more than on the Lakers'
front office than on Darvin Ham.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
If I am power ranking blame, before I would put
Darvin Ham, I would certainly put the front office who
just stood pat didn't make even a move in the margins.
People laughed at me at the trade deadline when I
was frustrated because I wasn't asking the Lakers to make
a major move. But you look at a move that
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Dallas made that I talked out at the time, adding
Daniel Gafford, a backup center who gives them twenty good
minutes to night. People were like, Oh, is that gonna
make the difference.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
They just lost Game two in Game five on buzzer
beaters where they had to play Jackson Hayes real minutes
in the playoffs, so maybe it would.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah. I think we everybody at this network, mostly that
I've heard kind of agrees on this. Nobody's saying Darvin
ham is Eric Spolstra. But I mean, when you keep
running coaches out. I've said this for years with j
Max New York Jets. When you keep running coaches out,
the top candidates don't apply. The Cleveland Browns don't generally
get the best scouts, and that's why the best scouts
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in the NFL they're not going historically to Chicago because
there's an ownership issue. They're banging on gms and coaches
much easier for the Ravens. There's a reason the Ravens
and the Green Bay Packers tend to draft really, really good.
They get many of the best scouts because of continuity.
So you can go ahead. Fans just love to fire
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the coach, but you start getting a reputation as a company,
if you keep firing people one after another after another
and the top candidates don't apply. And I think that's
what's happening now with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
J Mack with the.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
News No No is the herd line News. It's not
a coincidence. The best NFL teams over the course of
seven or eight years draft the best. When's the last
bad Packer draft? They don't have them because they they don't.
You know, they only got rid of McCarthy after the
quarterback thing, but they immediately found in Matt Lafleuur. And
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it doesn't it feel like Matt Lafluur is gonna be
there for until he gets gray hair.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Probably. Let me ask you this, what if they have
a plan and they have a coach who's willing to
take the job, are you okay if they move off
from him? Well my quote here, but let me find it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
If you're gonna hire Billy Donovan, I would consider it.
I think Billy Donovan's the best coach in the country
that a lot of people are not putting in that class.
I think Billy's really good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, JJ Reddick.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
JJ Redicks never coached and I think he's terrific. At
what he does right now.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So everybody wants to find that Steve Kerse, someone who
is a former player, who can connect with players, who's
been an analyst but hasn't been beaten down by coaching
Over these Reddick could be Kerr. Remember Kerr was an announce.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think JJ's excellent, so I'm not criticizing it, but
Darvin Hammond never been a coach. Lebron is not easy.
Lebron's not easy when you've never been a coach. That
is a lot. The Lakers are not just an NBA team,
but they are the biggest. They're the Dallas Cowboys. It
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can't be your first coaching job.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I'm not defending this Starvin am dislike, but he was
always a role player. He was an assistant coach. This
is his first big gig. JJ Reddick was an all
time great high school player, college player, one of the
great three point shooters ever, extremely respected around the league.
I'm not saying he's going to make a great coach.
I think I'm interested that the Lakers are very.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Curious Jason Kidd. If I recall Jason Kidd's first gig,
he was a little over a little over his skis
and then he got he's gotten better as a coach.
I think it's I think the first the first show
I did, the first coaching job that for any time,
Saban's a lot better coach at the end of his
career than Michigan State, you know what I mean. Like
Urban Meyer was a lot better at Ohio State than
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he wasn't Bowling Green. So I think over the course
of time, I'm not doubting Jason Kiddy's super bright, really
really thoughtful, really bright and he and it may work,
but that's a tough Let's say, hey, Yankees, go manage
the Yankees. Well, I've never managed well, I play you
never managed before. Some guys can do it, but it's
a big ask. This is not your typical organization. This
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team is covered. Most NBA teams have a couple of
beat writers. There are when this team's good. They're the
only city in the country where the NBA teams bigger
than the NFL team it were. The only city in
the country is Los Angeles where, if you do research NBA,
Trump's NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, no, that's accurate, and things could get interesting based
on the first story tonight for the Lakers because the
Clippers are facing elimination, and surprise, surprise, Kawhi Leonard has
been ruled out again. Now looming, of course, is the
Taylu situation, which we'll get to. Kawhi' is gonna miss
his third straight game in the series. I believe they
mismanaged him badly. They were up one nothing Colin and
then they brought Kawhi back, who hadn't played a month,
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hadn't done any contact in practice. They brought it back
and playing thirty five minutes in Game two. They lose,
and he did not look right in Game three, and
he hasn't played since. Knee inflammation is what they're calling it.
Clippers are coming off the worst loss in postseason franchise history.
They lost by thirty. Now if they get dusted tonight,
and I think the Mats probably get him, and I
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would not be surprised by a twenty point blowout. Does
TYLERU say, Steve Bomer, I don't want your ten million,
I'll take the Lakers job for four.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm just throwing numbers out there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, I think Tyler's a really good coach night and
he's also has the ability to deal with dysfunction, which
he's proven throughout his career. So and the Clippers have
a lot of it. The Lakers have some, but not
nearly as much as the Clippers. So and you know
there's very few NBA teams Celtic, Stenverd they don't have
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some dysfunction. You know, stars are in the league. So
it's Hylou would be a great choice. But I I
I don't think Steve Balmer, He's not gonna get out
bid for anybody. I can assure you that I wouldn't
be surprised. I mean, my takeaway is if I was
Steve Balmer and I read these rumors, I would re
sign Tylou to a four year deal and pay him
nine million a year. And the Lakers will not.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Pay a coach that I do know. Two guys on
the Clipper staff, I don't feel comfortable reaching out.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Day of May the end, but they they will. Steve
Baumer is not letting the Lakers as he moves into
a new building, embarrass his franchise. So my guess is Tyleru,
they are working on a new contract right now. That's
my guess.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
As for the Clippers man this offseason, Paul George, well.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
They I didn't. I didn't get the resigning kyky kawhi things.
So Paul George is the one that I think. I
think Paul George is underrated. I'm I am over.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
He needs a forty tonight, a forty spot and a
w But you know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The thing with Paul George, he could do it. How
many guys in the m could you say he needs
forty tonight and you think, oh, he could get it.
Paul George got out to the league.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
In like ten to fifteen nys and he's certainly in there.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Next up, the Bucks were eliminated last night, but Colin
the biggest side show act here was Patrick Beverley. If
you're watching at FS one, look at it. He just
throws a basketball at this woman, hits her in the
side of the head, then calls for the ball back
because he missed the person he was trying to throw
it to and chucks it at that guy. And when
you see a bunch of fans over there are sorry
Bucks players trying to calm him down. Pat Bev's a mess.
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He did tweet out after the game that the video
is not fair exchanged between a fan and our ball club.
All night we warned and asked for help.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Patrick Beverley has a very low EQ. His emotional quotient
is not good. He may be a bright guy, but
he struggles with this. He just struggles controlling himself. He
has no discipline here. This is just not acceptable. Fans
bark all the time. I've never gone to an NBA game.
I don't like it, but fans bark all the time
behind the bench. So you got to grow up, by
the way. Although other players can handle it, and I
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guarantee you, Patrick Beverly has invited this for years because
he's the guy that will taunt fans and getting fans faces.
So don't talk crap and then be shocked. Not a
lot of people give Dame problems, you know who. They
get problems to Westbrook because they see it bothers him,
and they give problems to Patrick Beverly. Not that many
people go after Yannis or Dame. Not a lot of
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people going after you know.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But when they see it bothers you, they're gonna keep.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
People don't go after Anthony Davis. He's chill. So if
you people see it bothers you and then you flaunt
or taunt, don't be surprised. And then after the game
he did something else.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So after the game he got listen, the guy's a bozo.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He was asked by a reporter or a question. He goes,
I'm sorry, do you subscribe to my podcast? And she's
like no, and he's like, I'm not answering your question,
that's not and then he moved on like I know,
you know who's gonna make a run at this guy
because nobody's gonna want touch him. He's radioactive right now,
the Phoenix Suns who are desperate for bodies, he Pat
Bev will take you on the chief.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't think. I mean, all I know is all
I know is this is if I ran a media
company and I've been using Patrick Beverly, I would no
longer use him. That punishment fits that crime. Like it's
not the end of the world, but it's I'm not
gonna let him represent me.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, it's just not a good look.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And again, Patrick Beverly has been one of those guys
and he's an energy guy, and I've defended this. He's
like Rodman, he brings that energy. Draymond Green, who I
know brings that energy. But you're gonna get crap when
you do that. Nobody's picking on Dame, nobody's picking on
Booker or Jamal Murray. They play. You get your your
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constant shippiness. But you get what you invite in life.
You get what you invite. If you're a tough guy,
sooner or later somebody's gonna knock you out. Like, don't
be one. So Patrick Beverly is he invites a lot
of this I don't like.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I will say I do not like what I hear
sometimes at sporting events. I think I would be I
would throw out heckler regularly, much more than leagues do.
I mean, it's like when you go to watch a
comedian and you spend two hundred and fifty bucks for
the ticket and Joe Schmoe thinks he's funnier than Jerry Seinfeld,
and I'm like, hey, moron, I came to watch him,
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not you. He's a pro. You're a schmuck. So it's like,
I don't like hecklers, but you gotta be above it.
You gotta have some emotional intelligence and be like step back.
Because by the way, they weren't just tackling him, they
were heckling the team According to Beverly's tweet, Yeah, yeah,
he's saying they were coming after us. Well, the rest
of the US didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
React, like nobody's turning around and looking at but Beverly
because he's you know, weak minded, is just freaking out whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't want to you know, whatever it is, but
it's just you gotta be better than that.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Final story is Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs coming off
a he's another super Bowl win. But he went on
the Logan Paul podcast and Mahomes was discussing the famous
corn dog play that helped them seal the Super Bowl,
actually the last two Super Bowls. And this is the
interesting part. Mahomes guaranteed that they'll use it in New
Orleans this season. Sounds like a nice roundabout way of
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saying we're going back to another super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, well there's favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I guess there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, beat them,
let them talk their talk. You gotta beat them.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I had lunch yesterday with a Ravens fan.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
They raved Hill till salty about that playoff.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hease like, we were the best team all year. What happened?
And it's you know, it's Mahomes happened. I mean, I
think we sometimes you don't. But Kansas City was not
a great team until the very end of the year.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Why loust money betting gets.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I mean, they struggled all year to get to twenty
four points. They really struggled. And their division wasn't good
because the Chargers were circling the drain and the Raiders
weren't good and Denver so it wasn't like their division
they were barely getting But no, no, no, the division
wasn't very good last year and they were still struggling.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
People only remember the result, but just remember in that
Super Bowl the forty nine Ers were in control until
that Botch plot.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were in control. In the Garoppolos, they were final,
they led go I think they led late third or
going into.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Folt Lakers, Denver nuggetsy the.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Way like the better team eventually rises and does their stuff.
But jmck the.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by
the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It was fun watching the The NBA playoffs have been
a lot of fun. Usually, you know, drama is we
talk about it in the NFL like don't be noisy.
Noisy is a bad Cincinnati. I didn't have them in
my top ten. I heard hierarchy this week. It's just
too noisy, so Arizona last year got too noisy. Avoid
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the noise. The good teams stay out of that space.
And in the NBA there's a lot of egos, like
international soccer, but there's I never looked at the Lakers
as dysfunctional. You just got some ego. The Clippers feeldysfunctional.
That's why they're great. They're terrible. They're great, they're terrible,
They're down there, they're all of them. It's just too dysfunctional.
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The teams that right now aren't dysfunctional. Oklahoma City, Minnesota, Denver,
New York Knicks, Boston Celtics, they look like the best teams.
It's okay to have egos. It's okay too. You know,
it's a long, long season. People are gonna wear on people.
But once you move into that Clipper world, you feel
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like you're dysfunctional. It's like the NFL noise. It's trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
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Speaker 1 (30:21):
Stop me if you've heard this before. It's an annual column.
And I saw the headline again this morning. Why the
seventy six ers and Joel mb should have Hope? Didn't
we predict this yesterday? Hope after that last playoff run,
we told you this was gonna happen. I've seen this
column like seven eight times. You know the other column
(30:45):
I keep reading Clippers will compete for a title next
season when Kawhi Leonard is healthy. It ain't happening with either.
Stop writing the column. The only reason this series was
close is because then didn't have a second scoring option
they're going to next year. And frankly, if Tyrese Maxi
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didn't hit two bombs, one was traveling, wasn't called, shouldn't
have counted. This would have been a gentleman's sweep. This
is like the Lakers saying we're close to the Nuggets.
You can keep it close, but the series isn't close.
Philadelphia keeps these games close. The series isn't close. So
the Sixers do have an opportunity this off season to
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make huge changes. They have massive cap space and multiple
first round picks. But the conversation in Philadelphia is always this, Hey,
what two or three can we find for Embiid. That
conversation needs to change is what star can we find
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where Embiid can be the two? Because for seven straight
years in the Eastern Conference with mbiad is your dog
can't win a second playoff series, meaning you'd struggle to
win one in the West. I'm sorry, this is what
it is. Three different coaches, multiple gms, multiple players. This
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is the Kawhi Clippers. Next year will be different once
he's healthy. Embiaid isn't healthy. He looks gassed at the
end of these games because you know he's slumbering around
as a big guy. He's hurt a lot. He plays
small too often, gets out hustled and out efforted in
the fourth quarter, and some of it as he looks
tired lumbering around that big body. So I mean, to me,
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the conversation, not just the roster in Philadelphia, the conversation
has to change Embiad is your guy ark And again
this is in the East, and this year's East is
as weak as I've seen. Remember next year, Jimmy Butler
in the playoffs is back. Miami is a handful. The
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Knicks are getting a two. The Celtics may have championship confidence.
There's a chance Giannis and Day would both be healthy.
Orlando's got space, needs another guy, they'll be better. Cleveland's
not going anywhere again. This is the year, This is
the year. I mean, the Knicks didn't have Julius Randall
or an upgrade over Julius Randall. So like, you can't
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win now, I don't want to hear it, like it's
not gonna work. Here's here's Mbat on the Sixers being eliminated.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I mean, it sucks to loose. The goal is to
win a championship. You know, any many times, anytime that
don't happen. That's all I care about. I don't care,
you know if I got to the second one, you know,
that does not mean anything to me. Was just then
to accomplish what we wanted to. But he's also exciting
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to look at the future, to look what's in fun
of you. But he's also easier to say it than done.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, so I thought this was interesting years ago. I
don't know who told me this. It may have been
Howie Long, so I'll give him credit. I don't know
if it was how He He said, quarterbacks take out
all the oxygen in their room. They need the attention.
It's very hard to have multiple quarterbacks in a small room.
(34:26):
And it was said in jest. Terry Bradshaw may have
been sitting next to him, but it does make sense.
And I've heard something similar to that before. So Big
Ben got very insecure when the Steelers drafted Mason Rudolph.
Tom Brady didn't like Jimmy Garoppolo in the building, like
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so you have. I mean, think of how great Aaron
Rodgers was and how Mandy was with Jordan Love, a
Utah State kid that wasn't close ready to play. So
when people say Kirk Cousins Michael Pennix, like, if you
want the future at quarterback in Pennix's available, Kirk Cousins
is going to be upset. Farv was upset with Rogers, Rogers,
with Jordan Love. It's just the way the world works.
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There's six cornerbacks and a roster. There's seven receivers, there's
twelve offensive linemen. There's two quarterbacks, and the number one
quarterback doesn't want the number two quarterback taking any snaps.
That's just the way the position is. You can be
the goat Brady. Everybody gets a little sensive about that stuff.
So Jordan Travis, according to a story today, the New
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York Jet defensive player Jermaine Johnson from Florida State called
the coach Robert Solidur in the draft and said, hey,
get Jordan Travis, the quarterback at Florida State. Now he's
a forgotten player because he got hurt. But here's the
thing about Jordan Travis. Florida State has a great coach
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and NFL receivers all over the roster. They were scoring
forty a game with Jordan Travis. He got hurt they
scored fourteen. I mean you urban Meyer with a third
string quarterback. Usually at these powerhouse programs, I mean Alabama
want to natty. They took out, you know, a quarterback
at halftime went with two it they want a natty.
Usually a great program, the backup quarterback's a four star
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kid who's not quite ready to play, but if you
put him in, you could score. Florida State's a top program.
Jordan Travis left. The offense collapsed, and that is with
a great coach, great defense that kept getting the ball back.
They couldn't move the ball, couldn't move the chain, unwatchable
on TV. And so all I'm saying is this kid's
very interesting and he is what Aaron Rodgers isn't. Young
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and super mobile. Remember Aaron was no longer considered mobile,
hyper mobile pre Achilles surgery. He will not be after
And there's only one or two successful pocket quarterbacks in
this league now. One is Jared Goff. But Jared Goff
has easily the best offensive line in football and a
great running back and a great receiver. The Jets don't
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have a good offensive line, so Goff's able to do it.
And he's in his athletic prime with easily the best
O line in football. So I do think the Jets
need to throw some darts starting this year, and they
did throw some darts on the quarterback stuff. But it's
interesting if you pick a quarterback in the second or
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third round that feels a little high, fourth round, fifth round,
you can get away with it. It is it. Garoppolo
was second round. If Garoppolo would have been a fourth rounder,
I don't think Braddy would have carried as much as
a second rounder. You're like, we could have gotten a
really good pass rusher there, or a star receiver there.
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We went and got a quarterback. And in the NFL,
the first three rounds, those are your starter rounds. After
you get to the fourth round on you know, a
lot of GM's will say it's hit and miss. You
just got to see how it works. But you know,
Aeron's no longer Aaron's now a pocket quarterback. That's what
he is, and that's not the NFL. Now there's only
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one or two left. CJ. Stroud's a pocket quarterback, but
he can move. Goff's a total pocket quarterback. Kirk Cousins
a pocket quarterback. But it's interesting they went and drafted
this kid. Because with great coaches and great receivers, that
offense completely collapsed when Jordan Travis got hurt. I couldn't
pick up first downs against bad teams. So there's something there.
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The kids got some juice for sure. J Mack Little
Jets wedged them into the show on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Thank you very I. I had to just do some
research on Jordan Travis. I mean, listen, I know him
a little bit. Ye watching him last year, and he
was like a pretty ballyhooed high school players. Had some injuries,
but I like how you did work the Jets in there.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, very trying to you know, especially Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You want to feel good about things heading into the weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, because I need to feel really good
about my teams. My soccer team won in playoffs last night,
advanced like things are looking up for all my sports.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I was thinking about this watch in the next game
last night. Is that it is interesting when you say, well,
that series was close. No MAXI gets called for traveling
on the three. It's a gentleman's sweep. The Sixers matchup
pretty well with the Knicks. That wasn't to me. The
Knicks were the better team. I never felt any point
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in the series Sixers were better. I said yesterday on
the show, I said, New York's gonna go in and
wrap up this series in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You said that, but six games they were separated by
one point.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Come on, well, Denver Lakers close. See you're say to yourself,
Denver Lakers, very close series.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm curious how you handicapped Pacers Knicks because.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's a hard series. Because I do think Game one,
the Knicks spent so much energy emotionally. Do they come
back down a little? I don't think you. I mean
Indiana doesn't feel like the Sixers. Do the Knicks? That
Game one's really interesting? Do the Knicks can they reboot
all the energy come out on fire? Because they went
into that Sixer series as an underdog with a chip
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on their shoulder. Now they're like a favorite, and so
it's like and the Indiana series, it wasn't a wildly
emotional series. I mean they kind of they got easy baskets.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And the Knicks played I think like basically six, seven
or eight guys in every game that's it like heavy minutes,
and the Pacers played like a nine man rotation. So
one team's gonna have to shrink it and the other's
gonna have to expand. And we haven't even got to
the Brunson revenge series against a certain coach of the
Indiana Pacers. There's some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah Here we go on to Friday. Lots to talk
about live in LA. It's the Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for Meganos
part of your day. Jmac. Very exciting, very exciting. Very
rarely is a New York team and underdog. You think
any Yankees and all that money and nick or an underdog?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not against the Patriot, But yes, they're certainly an underdog.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's an interesting shide. I don't know if I like him.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You may.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's series against Philadelphia took a lot out of them.
Fell like a conference final. Oh, there's no question. It
felt like a conference final. We start our Friday show basically,
Villanova beat the Philadelphia seventy six ers last night. Maybe
they feel just comfortable in Villanova because that's where the
school is. But the three Villanova guys Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart,
Donte DiVincenzo combined for eighty points, twenty eight assists, innumerable
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hustle plays, effort plays. They were the series. And it's
very interesting in the NBA. If you just say this
term Villanova guy, everybody knows what you're talking about. It's
like that saying you ever heard it Minnesota nice. Everybody
sort of gets it Villanova guy. They don't say that
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about Kansas guy or Kentucky guy. And those are great programs.
Villanova guys are more mature, more resourceful. They fit on
every NBA team, not every player in this league. Most
don't want to play for TIBs. Do you think it's
a coincidence that all three Villanova guys not only deal
with TIBs, they flourish with him. John Calipari, I take
(02:10):
my shots at him. He used to be at Kentucky.
It was a turnstile program. The goal was John said,
this is to get rich. He didn't even care about March.
He told us get rich. At Villanova. You may get rich,
but it's about being enriched. Maybe it's like Wall Street
in Silicon Valley. You go to Wall Street as a kid,
(02:30):
you want to make money. You go to Silicon Valley
you want to make money too. But there are a
lot of people there that want to change the world.
Many of the devices you and I use that make
our life better, they're not from Wall Street, They're from
Silicon Valley. It's okay to want to make money, but
is it the only goal? I always felt that that
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was Calipari's Kentucky. That was never Villanova with Jay Wright.
Be part of the community, three star kids, go to class,
help with charities, be on campus, get enriched and possibly rich.
One of the reasons, maybe the only reason these Knicks
(03:13):
are so likable. Most New York teams to America are
not likable. This team's totally likable because they're defined by hustle, effort, discipline,
crashing the boards. They've got a star, and even the
star was doubted. Jalen Brunson was pushed aside by Dallas
second rounder Josh Hart's a g leaguer fourth team, Dante
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de Vincenzo his fourth team. It's an underdog team. Make
no mistake, though the better team won, the team that
showed more consistent effort. One. I know these games were close,
but so were the Nuggets and the Lakers games. But
you knew who was better. And the only reason this
thing went six is because Tyrese Maxi hit a couple
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of bombs. We found out later in the review of
the official one of them was traveling and shouldn't have
been given. This was the Knixt series. Yeah, they were close,
but I said this the other night when they lost
a close one. I felt the Knicks with a better team,
better effort, consistently. It's not a shot at Philadelphia. Love
their coach, They've got great players. I think they have
a better overall roster. But Villanova guys won the series.
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And talked after.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Villanova in the house. You said again, Villanova in the house,
Villanova in the House.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
On a serious I think on the court, it's you know,
you have the ability to bring everybody together, make adjustments,
have that open, you know, line of communication with nobody,
you know, nobody taking offense. I think everybody's you know,
goal here is to win, and it's easier when you
have two guys that you've played with only so you
know that. Sometimes when things get heated, it's it's coming
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from the right place, and then that translates to everybody,
and everybody's a to talk to each other in that way.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So the Milwaukee Bucks didn't have Jannis, No Yannis, no shot.
Indiana shot fifty four percent last night, a lot of
easy buckets without Yannis Milwaukee. Now is what happens in
the NBA, overwhelmingly when a small market gets a transcendent
player Okac with kd Lebron the first time in Cleveland,
(05:29):
Shaq in Orlando, kg in Minnesota, Kareem in Milwaukee, Jannis
in Milwaukee, you win a lot, may even win a title,
but you always kind of feel like there's a ceiling.
In NBA Stars and International Soccer Stars, I've compared those
two before. They don't like ceilings. In the NFL, small
(05:53):
market doesn't matter. The way the draft works, you get
mature players immediately can change you. Also, a hard cap.
It's almost hard to be terrible in the NFL. You
have to have a lousy owner. But in the NBA,
also also in the NFL, many of the most iconic
franchises are small markets Green Bay, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore.
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But that's not the case in the NBA. The Lakers,
the Knicks, the Sixers, the Warriors. For a long time,
the Chicago Bulls. Big markets stars, superstars. They go to
big cities, they attract the big cities attract the superstars.
So that's not to say the Milwaukee Bucks haven't tried.
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I mean they're running through coaches like the Sixers, Lakers,
they're running through coaches. They're trying. But the Bucks are
really really old. In fact, I believe they're the oldest
team in the league, and the old players are all
locked into their contracts. And because they've made aggressive moves,
which I appreciate Damon Drew Holliday, they don't have a
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lot of assets. They don't have first round picks. So
here's what You're gonna get the same team next year
unless you make a gigantic move, which I could understand.
If Milwaukee didn't, you can argue Jannis wasn't here. If
Jannis was here, But remember this, the Knicks are going
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to add a piece, and they're really good now, and
Boston may win a championship and have championship confidence now,
and Philadelphia has huge cap space and potentially three first
round picks. They'll make a move. This may have been
the year in the East. The Celtics still have a
little uncertainty can they win the title? The Knicks are
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very Jalen Brunson led Orlando's too young Cleveland two consistent.
Philadelphia once again disappointing at Orlando team Paul George ends
up there. Good life, Knicks get KD good luck. But
what I see happening is they've tried, they did get
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a title. They're really old. They're gonna bring the band
back and the same thing next year. For the record,
Indiana really good now not going backwards. OK, see Minnesota, Denver.
This is now a very very young league and the
Bucks are a very old team. Here was Dame after.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
It's definitely disappointing because you know how much better of
a team we are when he's on the floor, and
how much things change when he's on the floor. And
you play an entire eighty two game season, you go
through training camp, you go through all the ups and
downs of an NBA regular season, and you get to
the point where, all right, now we're going to play
for everything, and you're not whole. You know, you know't
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how the best opportunity to reach where you want to reach.
So it's straight and is disappointing, but you know it's
part of the game.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Here's the good news. They got a title, and they
have Giannis and they have Dame. So they got a
couple of great players. Damian Yanners are great, LOLd but great,
and they got a title. So it's not the end
of the world, but it kind of I've seen this
with Shaq and KG and Kareem and Kad in Oklahoma City.
(09:25):
Is these international soccer stars, they're bouncing all over the
place club to club, and these NBA guy they don't
want ceilings because the international soccer guy in the NBA
star changes a franchise. Even a quarterback in the NFL
Mahomes would not be the same player without Andy Reid,
Travis Kelsey, great defense, excellent GM. You put Messy in
his prime and a team they're gonna score a lot
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of goals. You put Giannis on a team tomorrow like
Golden State, they're the heavy favorite to win the championship.
So j Mack again, they got a title. It's not
the Knicks would take one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, Dane doesn't have a title, but does it feel
the super team era is kind of over? Colin and
last offseason the Bucks ad Dame the Sun's ad Beal.
Everybody loved both those teams out in the first round.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, I think everything in life and in sports is cyclical.
So I think now the feeling is baking beats, the microwave,
the oven beats, the microwave, draft be smart. That's the
feeling now. But I always I believe this to be true.
And he could be in Hollywood, it could be in sports.
There's very little great. Tom Cruise is great. He fills
(10:31):
the theater. Christopher Nolan is a director, is great, Pay
for him, go buy him. He's just too good. Tom
Cruise fills the theater. Just you know. So you know
our lifetimes. Great cuts through all the average in the world.
So you're gonna pay for great. So the idea that
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the super team has gone, Hey, you know, in a
couple of years, if Anthony Edwards is on the market
and people are gonna go pay spend money for him,
they're gonna give up rotational players, they're gonna try to
couple him with. So I think it's easy to say
now the micro away because Denver, basically with Malone didn't
went until like the eighth year. So they were. Basically,
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they baked that cake in the oven for a long time,
and okase, looks like they're baking in Minnesota. Looks like
they're But Lebron and ad did win a title a
couple of years ago, and Golden State went and got
Kadane was unbeatable, and that stuff wins too.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, so okay, see when they lose to Dallas, everybody's
gonna say they're a piece away. Go get Paul George,
go get Kevin Durant, and Okac's gonna have a tough decision.
Let's just remember though, Denver, Aaron Gordon was a top
five pick when they added him. So like, you can
bake as much as you want, but you need to
toss in some special, like you said, Yeah, Aaron Gordon
was a top five pick in the draft. He was
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an awesome play no no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean at Denver's best four players in Boston's best
four players, they all of them have great nights. Jokich
is truly great. Tatum will be classified that at I mean,
I think he's in that class. But there's a lot
of really really good. But Tatum and Yokich are great,
and the if you can have one great and a
bunch of high. I mean, Jalen Brown made an All
NBA team. He's got a max contract, so that qualifies
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as great in the world. Jalen Brown's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
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Speaker 1 (12:20):
The downside being a big brand as expectations are lofty
but often pivot into delusional and unrealistic. Here is the
story this morning. Darvin Ham, Laker coach, expected to be
fired by the end of the week. That's the story
from the Athletic Jovon Bouja, jj Reddick Tylou floated as
(12:43):
the possible replacements ood boy. So the criticism when they
hired Darvin Ham was, well, he's a rookie head coach.
You can't give Lebron a rookie head coach. Yet, Well,
they had a veteran head coach, Frank Vogel, and they
ran him out, So where were you gonna go? They
went with a young guy. You tell me the top
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head coaching candidates who look at this and think great job.
Since nineteen sixty sixty one, when the Lakers moved from
Minneapolis to Los Angeles. I don't know, that's sixty five
sixty four seasons, right. They've had three great coaches, Bill Sharmon,
pat Riley and Phil Jackson. Even guys like Frank Vogel
and Paul Westhead got run out of town by a
(13:29):
superstar and they won titles. So you've had three greats
a couple worked. Everybody else gets run, like nineteen other
guys got run twenty other guys. And since Phil Jackson left,
it's like the Lakers are chasing something and they've become
the dog chasing its tail. Now they just it's a turnstile.
(13:51):
I mean, Darvin Ham got two years, and Mike Brown
got a year and a half, and Luke Walton got three,
but they wanted him out after two, and Mike d'An
toni got a year and a half, and Byron Scott
got two they wanted him out eighteen games into his
first year, and of a Vogel and darvinon three two
one and a half. But the rumors start literally at
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the trade deadline of year two for all these guys
trade deadline year two. No, this isn't good enough. And
I'll say it again. Denver was better this year. Last year,
you don't win twelve out of thirteen games because Jarvin
Ham had a weird substitution in the second quarter. Chris
Brussard on the latest Laker rumors with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I think it's the player's pointing fingers. I think it's
the player's ducking Blaine was he? How bad was he
when they won went to the Western Conference finals last
year in his first year?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
So I just think that this happens with Lebron's teams.
Right when they don't win, they look for skateboats. And
I'm not saying it's him, but the organization looks for skategoats.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now, some of this is when you get a big brand,
when you get a Michigan football, you know, when you
get a Kentucky basketball, you know, the expectations are through
the roof. You don't have to win championships. But I mean,
I think Lakers are saying, yeah, but we can't get
knocked out in the first round, which is why when
I suggested avoid Denver, Remember I said that hot take.
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I said, avoid Denver. You're gonna get swept by Denver.
It's okay to losing seven to OKC or Minnesota. You're
not being Denver. People were outraged, and I promised you.
I said, you lose in four or five to Denver.
Darvin Ham's in trouble, chaos. People are unhappy we predicted
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it all die on the hill of Mike Pennix. Junior
will not be a bad draft pick by the Atlanta
Falcons eventually, and it's not a darvin Ham problem. Go ahead,
go get the thirteenth best candidate. I mean, when it
got Darvin Ham and they'd run out Vogel. The only
other team that was interested in darvin Ham was Charlotte.
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We'll not a short list of nine teams. Nick right
this week on why this was more than on the Lakers'
front office than on Darvin Ham.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
If I am power ranking blame, before I would put
Darvin Ham, I would certainly put the front office who
just stood pat didn't make even a move in the margins.
People laughed at me at the trade deadline when I
was frustrated because I wasn't asking the Lakers to make
a major move. But you look at a move that
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Dallas made that I talked out at the time, adding
Daniel Gafford, a backup center who gives them twenty good
minutes to night. People were like, Oh, is that gonna
make the difference.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
They just lost Game two in Game five on buzzer
beaters where they had to play Jackson Hayes real minutes
in the playoffs, so maybe it would.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah. I think we everybody at this network, mostly that
I've heard kind of agrees on this. Nobody's saying Darvin
ham is Eric Spolstra. But I mean, when you keep
running coaches out. I've said this for years with j
Max New York Jets. When you keep running coaches out,
the top candidates don't apply. The Cleveland Browns don't generally
get the best scouts, and that's why the best scouts
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in the NFL they're not going historically to Chicago because
there's an ownership issue. They're banging on gms and coaches
much easier for the Ravens. There's a reason the Ravens
and the Green Bay Packers tend to draft really, really good.
They get many of the best scouts because of continuity.
So you can go ahead. Fans just love to fire
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the coach, but you start getting a reputation as a company,
if you keep firing people one after another after another
and the top candidates don't apply. And I think that's
what's happening now with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
J Mack with the.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
News No No is the herd line News. It's not
a coincidence. The best NFL teams over the course of
seven or eight years draft the best. When's the last
bad Packer draft? They don't have them because they they don't.
You know, they only got rid of McCarthy after the
quarterback thing, but they immediately found in Matt Lafleuur. And
(18:16):
it doesn't it feel like Matt Lafluur is gonna be
there for until he gets gray hair.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Probably. Let me ask you this, what if they have
a plan and they have a coach who's willing to
take the job, are you okay if they move off
from him? Well my quote here, but let me find it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
If you're gonna hire Billy Donovan, I would consider it.
I think Billy Donovan's the best coach in the country
that a lot of people are not putting in that class.
I think Billy's really good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, JJ Reddick.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
JJ Redicks never coached and I think he's terrific. At
what he does right now.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So everybody wants to find that Steve Kerse, someone who
is a former player, who can connect with players, who's
been an analyst but hasn't been beaten down by coaching
Over these Reddick could be Kerr. Remember Kerr was an announce.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think JJ's excellent, so I'm not criticizing it, but
Darvin Hammond never been a coach. Lebron is not easy.
Lebron's not easy when you've never been a coach. That
is a lot. The Lakers are not just an NBA team,
but they are the biggest. They're the Dallas Cowboys. It
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can't be your first coaching job.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I'm not defending this Starvin am dislike, but he was
always a role player. He was an assistant coach. This
is his first big gig. JJ Reddick was an all
time great high school player, college player, one of the
great three point shooters ever, extremely respected around the league.
I'm not saying he's going to make a great coach.
I think I'm interested that the Lakers are very.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Curious Jason Kidd. If I recall Jason Kidd's first gig,
he was a little over a little over his skis
and then he got he's gotten better as a coach.
I think it's I think the first the first show
I did, the first coaching job that for any time,
Saban's a lot better coach at the end of his
career than Michigan State, you know what I mean. Like
Urban Meyer was a lot better at Ohio State than
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he wasn't Bowling Green. So I think over the course
of time, I'm not doubting Jason Kiddy's super bright, really
really thoughtful, really bright and he and it may work,
but that's a tough Let's say, hey, Yankees, go manage
the Yankees. Well, I've never managed well, I play you
never managed before. Some guys can do it, but it's
a big ask. This is not your typical organization. This
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team is covered. Most NBA teams have a couple of
beat writers. There are when this team's good. They're the
only city in the country where the NBA teams bigger
than the NFL team it were. The only city in
the country is Los Angeles where, if you do research NBA,
Trump's NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, no, that's accurate, and things could get interesting based
on the first story tonight for the Lakers because the
Clippers are facing elimination, and surprise, surprise, Kawhi Leonard has
been ruled out again. Now looming, of course, is the
Taylu situation, which we'll get to. Kawhi' is gonna miss
his third straight game in the series. I believe they
mismanaged him badly. They were up one nothing Colin and
then they brought Kawhi back, who hadn't played a month,
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hadn't done any contact in practice. They brought it back
and playing thirty five minutes in Game two. They lose,
and he did not look right in Game three, and
he hasn't played since. Knee inflammation is what they're calling it.
Clippers are coming off the worst loss in postseason franchise history.
They lost by thirty. Now if they get dusted tonight,
and I think the Mats probably get him, and I
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would not be surprised by a twenty point blowout. Does
TYLERU say, Steve Bomer, I don't want your ten million,
I'll take the Lakers job for four.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm just throwing numbers out there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, I think Tyler's a really good coach night and
he's also has the ability to deal with dysfunction, which
he's proven throughout his career. So and the Clippers have
a lot of it. The Lakers have some, but not
nearly as much as the Clippers. So and you know
there's very few NBA teams Celtic, Stenverd they don't have
(22:01):
some dysfunction. You know, stars are in the league. So
it's Hylou would be a great choice. But I I
I don't think Steve Balmer, He's not gonna get out
bid for anybody. I can assure you that I wouldn't
be surprised. I mean, my takeaway is if I was
Steve Balmer and I read these rumors, I would re
sign Tylou to a four year deal and pay him
nine million a year. And the Lakers will not.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Pay a coach that I do know. Two guys on
the Clipper staff, I don't feel comfortable reaching out.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Day of May the end, but they they will. Steve
Baumer is not letting the Lakers as he moves into
a new building, embarrass his franchise. So my guess is Tyleru,
they are working on a new contract right now. That's
my guess.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
As for the Clippers man this offseason, Paul George, well.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
They I didn't. I didn't get the resigning kyky kawhi things.
So Paul George is the one that I think. I
think Paul George is underrated. I'm I am over.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
He needs a forty tonight, a forty spot and a
w But you know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The thing with Paul George, he could do it. How
many guys in the m could you say he needs
forty tonight and you think, oh, he could get it.
Paul George got out to the league.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
In like ten to fifteen nys and he's certainly in there.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Next up, the Bucks were eliminated last night, but Colin
the biggest side show act here was Patrick Beverley. If
you're watching at FS one, look at it. He just
throws a basketball at this woman, hits her in the
side of the head, then calls for the ball back
because he missed the person he was trying to throw
it to and chucks it at that guy. And when
you see a bunch of fans over there are sorry
Bucks players trying to calm him down. Pat Bev's a mess.
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He did tweet out after the game that the video
is not fair exchanged between a fan and our ball club.
All night we warned and asked for help.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Patrick Beverley has a very low EQ. His emotional quotient
is not good. He may be a bright guy, but
he struggles with this. He just struggles controlling himself. He
has no discipline here. This is just not acceptable. Fans
bark all the time. I've never gone to an NBA game.
I don't like it, but fans bark all the time
behind the bench. So you got to grow up, by
the way. Although other players can handle it, and I
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guarantee you, Patrick Beverly has invited this for years because
he's the guy that will taunt fans and getting fans faces.
So don't talk crap and then be shocked. Not a
lot of people give Dame problems, you know who. They
get problems to Westbrook because they see it bothers him,
and they give problems to Patrick Beverly. Not that many
people go after Yannis or Dame. Not a lot of
(24:23):
people going after you know.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But when they see it bothers you, they're gonna keep.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
People don't go after Anthony Davis. He's chill. So if
you people see it bothers you and then you flaunt
or taunt, don't be surprised. And then after the game
he did something else.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So after the game he got listen, the guy's a bozo.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He was asked by a reporter or a question. He goes,
I'm sorry, do you subscribe to my podcast? And she's
like no, and he's like, I'm not answering your question,
that's not and then he moved on like I know,
you know who's gonna make a run at this guy
because nobody's gonna want touch him. He's radioactive right now,
the Phoenix Suns who are desperate for bodies, he Pat
Bev will take you on the chief.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't think. I mean, all I know is all
I know is this is if I ran a media
company and I've been using Patrick Beverly, I would no
longer use him. That punishment fits that crime. Like it's
not the end of the world, but it's I'm not
gonna let him represent me.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, it's just not a good look.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And again, Patrick Beverly has been one of those guys
and he's an energy guy, and I've defended this. He's
like Rodman, he brings that energy. Draymond Green, who I
know brings that energy. But you're gonna get crap when
you do that. Nobody's picking on Dame, nobody's picking on
Booker or Jamal Murray. They play. You get your your
(25:38):
constant shippiness. But you get what you invite in life.
You get what you invite. If you're a tough guy,
sooner or later somebody's gonna knock you out. Like, don't
be one. So Patrick Beverly is he invites a lot
of this I don't like.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I will say I do not like what I hear
sometimes at sporting events. I think I would be I
would throw out heckler regularly, much more than leagues do.
I mean, it's like when you go to watch a
comedian and you spend two hundred and fifty bucks for
the ticket and Joe Schmoe thinks he's funnier than Jerry Seinfeld,
and I'm like, hey, moron, I came to watch him,
(26:14):
not you. He's a pro. You're a schmuck. So it's like,
I don't like hecklers, but you gotta be above it.
You gotta have some emotional intelligence and be like step back.
Because by the way, they weren't just tackling him, they
were heckling the team According to Beverly's tweet, Yeah, yeah,
he's saying they were coming after us. Well, the rest
of the US didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
React, like nobody's turning around and looking at but Beverly
because he's you know, weak minded, is just freaking out whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't want to you know, whatever it is, but
it's just you gotta be better than that.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Final story is Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs coming off
a he's another super Bowl win. But he went on
the Logan Paul podcast and Mahomes was discussing the famous
corn dog play that helped them seal the Super Bowl,
actually the last two Super Bowls. And this is the
interesting part. Mahomes guaranteed that they'll use it in New
Orleans this season. Sounds like a nice roundabout way of
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saying we're going back to another super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, well there's favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I guess there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, beat them,
let them talk their talk. You gotta beat them.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I had lunch yesterday with a Ravens fan.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
They raved Hill till salty about that playoff.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hease like, we were the best team all year. What happened?
And it's you know, it's Mahomes happened. I mean, I
think we sometimes you don't. But Kansas City was not
a great team until the very end of the year.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Why loust money betting gets.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I mean, they struggled all year to get to twenty
four points. They really struggled. And their division wasn't good
because the Chargers were circling the drain and the Raiders
weren't good and Denver so it wasn't like their division
they were barely getting But no, no, no, the division
wasn't very good last year and they were still struggling.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
People only remember the result, but just remember in that
Super Bowl the forty nine Ers were in control until
that Botch plot.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were in control. In the Garoppolos, they were final,
they led go I think they led late third or
going into.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Folt Lakers, Denver nuggetsy the.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Way like the better team eventually rises and does their stuff.
But jmck the.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by
the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It was fun watching the The NBA playoffs have been
a lot of fun. Usually, you know, drama is we
talk about it in the NFL like don't be noisy.
Noisy is a bad Cincinnati. I didn't have them in
my top ten. I heard hierarchy this week. It's just
too noisy, so Arizona last year got too noisy. Avoid
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the noise. The good teams stay out of that space.
And in the NBA there's a lot of egos, like
international soccer, but there's I never looked at the Lakers
as dysfunctional. You just got some ego. The Clippers feeldysfunctional.
That's why they're great. They're terrible. They're great, they're terrible,
They're down there, they're all of them. It's just too dysfunctional.
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The teams that right now aren't dysfunctional. Oklahoma City, Minnesota, Denver,
New York Knicks, Boston Celtics, they look like the best teams.
It's okay to have egos. It's okay too. You know,
it's a long, long season. People are gonna wear on people.
But once you move into that Clipper world, you feel
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like you're dysfunctional. It's like the NFL noise. It's trouble.
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Speaker 1 (30:21):
Stop me if you've heard this before. It's an annual column.
And I saw the headline again this morning. Why the
seventy six ers and Joel mb should have Hope? Didn't
we predict this yesterday? Hope after that last playoff run,
we told you this was gonna happen. I've seen this
column like seven eight times. You know the other column
(30:45):
I keep reading Clippers will compete for a title next
season when Kawhi Leonard is healthy. It ain't happening with either.
Stop writing the column. The only reason this series was
close is because then didn't have a second scoring option
they're going to next year. And frankly, if Tyrese Maxi
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didn't hit two bombs, one was traveling, wasn't called, shouldn't
have counted. This would have been a gentleman's sweep. This
is like the Lakers saying we're close to the Nuggets.
You can keep it close, but the series isn't close.
Philadelphia keeps these games close. The series isn't close. So
the Sixers do have an opportunity this off season to
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make huge changes. They have massive cap space and multiple
first round picks. But the conversation in Philadelphia is always this, Hey,
what two or three can we find for Embiid. That
conversation needs to change is what star can we find
(31:54):
where Embiid can be the two? Because for seven straight
years in the Eastern Conference with mbiad is your dog
can't win a second playoff series, meaning you'd struggle to
win one in the West. I'm sorry, this is what
it is. Three different coaches, multiple gms, multiple players. This
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is the Kawhi Clippers. Next year will be different once
he's healthy. Embiaid isn't healthy. He looks gassed at the
end of these games because you know he's slumbering around
as a big guy. He's hurt a lot. He plays
small too often, gets out hustled and out efforted in
the fourth quarter, and some of it as he looks
tired lumbering around that big body. So I mean, to me,
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the conversation, not just the roster in Philadelphia, the conversation
has to change Embiad is your guy ark And again
this is in the East, and this year's East is
as weak as I've seen. Remember next year, Jimmy Butler
in the playoffs is back. Miami is a handful. The
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Knicks are getting a two. The Celtics may have championship confidence.
There's a chance Giannis and Day would both be healthy.
Orlando's got space, needs another guy, they'll be better. Cleveland's
not going anywhere again. This is the year, This is
the year. I mean, the Knicks didn't have Julius Randall
or an upgrade over Julius Randall. So like, you can't
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win now, I don't want to hear it, like it's
not gonna work. Here's here's Mbat on the Sixers being eliminated.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I mean, it sucks to loose. The goal is to
win a championship. You know, any many times, anytime that
don't happen. That's all I care about. I don't care,
you know if I got to the second one, you know,
that does not mean anything to me. Was just then
to accomplish what we wanted to. But he's also exciting
(33:56):
to look at the future, to look what's in fun
of you. But he's also easier to say it than done.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, so I thought this was interesting years ago. I
don't know who told me this. It may have been
Howie Long, so I'll give him credit. I don't know
if it was how He He said, quarterbacks take out
all the oxygen in their room. They need the attention.
It's very hard to have multiple quarterbacks in a small room.
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And it was said in jest. Terry Bradshaw may have
been sitting next to him, but it does make sense.
And I've heard something similar to that before. So Big
Ben got very insecure when the Steelers drafted Mason Rudolph.
Tom Brady didn't like Jimmy Garoppolo in the building, like
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so you have. I mean, think of how great Aaron
Rodgers was and how Mandy was with Jordan Love, a
Utah State kid that wasn't close ready to play. So
when people say Kirk Cousins Michael Pennix, like, if you
want the future at quarterback in Pennix's available, Kirk Cousins
is going to be upset. Farv was upset with Rogers, Rogers,
with Jordan Love. It's just the way the world works.
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There's six cornerbacks and a roster. There's seven receivers, there's
twelve offensive linemen. There's two quarterbacks, and the number one
quarterback doesn't want the number two quarterback taking any snaps.
That's just the way the position is. You can be
the goat Brady. Everybody gets a little sensive about that stuff.
So Jordan Travis, according to a story today, the New
(35:31):
York Jet defensive player Jermaine Johnson from Florida State called
the coach Robert Solidur in the draft and said, hey,
get Jordan Travis, the quarterback at Florida State. Now he's
a forgotten player because he got hurt. But here's the
thing about Jordan Travis. Florida State has a great coach
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and NFL receivers all over the roster. They were scoring
forty a game with Jordan Travis. He got hurt they
scored fourteen. I mean you urban Meyer with a third
string quarterback. Usually at these powerhouse programs, I mean Alabama
want to natty. They took out, you know, a quarterback
at halftime went with two it they want a natty.
Usually a great program, the backup quarterback's a four star
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kid who's not quite ready to play, but if you
put him in, you could score. Florida State's a top program.
Jordan Travis left. The offense collapsed, and that is with
a great coach, great defense that kept getting the ball back.
They couldn't move the ball, couldn't move the chain, unwatchable
on TV. And so all I'm saying is this kid's
very interesting and he is what Aaron Rodgers isn't. Young
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and super mobile. Remember Aaron was no longer considered mobile,
hyper mobile pre Achilles surgery. He will not be after
And there's only one or two successful pocket quarterbacks in
this league now. One is Jared Goff. But Jared Goff
has easily the best offensive line in football and a
great running back and a great receiver. The Jets don't
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have a good offensive line, so Goff's able to do it.
And he's in his athletic prime with easily the best
O line in football. So I do think the Jets
need to throw some darts starting this year, and they
did throw some darts on the quarterback stuff. But it's
interesting if you pick a quarterback in the second or
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third round that feels a little high, fourth round, fifth round,
you can get away with it. It is it. Garoppolo
was second round. If Garoppolo would have been a fourth rounder,
I don't think Braddy would have carried as much as
a second rounder. You're like, we could have gotten a
really good pass rusher there, or a star receiver there.
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We went and got a quarterback. And in the NFL,
the first three rounds, those are your starter rounds. After
you get to the fourth round on you know, a
lot of GM's will say it's hit and miss. You
just got to see how it works. But you know,
Aeron's no longer Aaron's now a pocket quarterback. That's what
he is, and that's not the NFL. Now there's only
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one or two left. CJ. Stroud's a pocket quarterback, but
he can move. Goff's a total pocket quarterback. Kirk Cousins
a pocket quarterback. But it's interesting they went and drafted
this kid. Because with great coaches and great receivers, that
offense completely collapsed when Jordan Travis got hurt. I couldn't
pick up first downs against bad teams. So there's something there.
(38:27):
The kids got some juice for sure. J Mack Little
Jets wedged them into the show on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Thank you very I. I had to just do some
research on Jordan Travis. I mean, listen, I know him
a little bit. Ye watching him last year, and he
was like a pretty ballyhooed high school players. Had some injuries,
but I like how you did work the Jets in there.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, very trying to you know, especially Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You want to feel good about things heading into the weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, because I need to feel really good
about my teams. My soccer team won in playoffs last night,
advanced like things are looking up for all my sports.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I was thinking about this watch in the next game
last night. Is that it is interesting when you say, well,
that series was close. No MAXI gets called for traveling
on the three. It's a gentleman's sweep. The Sixers matchup
pretty well with the Knicks. That wasn't to me. The
Knicks were the better team. I never felt any point
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in the series Sixers were better. I said yesterday on
the show, I said, New York's gonna go in and
wrap up this series in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You said that, but six games they were separated by
one point.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Come on, well, Denver Lakers close. See you're say to yourself,
Denver Lakers, very close series.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm curious how you handicapped Pacers Knicks because.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's a hard series. Because I do think Game one,
the Knicks spent so much energy emotionally. Do they come
back down a little? I don't think you. I mean
Indiana doesn't feel like the Sixers. Do the Knicks? That
Game one's really interesting? Do the Knicks can they reboot
all the energy come out on fire? Because they went
into that Sixer series as an underdog with a chip
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on their shoulder. Now they're like a favorite, and so
it's like and the Indiana series, it wasn't a wildly
emotional series. I mean they kind of they got easy baskets.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And the Knicks played I think like basically six, seven
or eight guys in every game that's it like heavy minutes,
and the Pacers played like a nine man rotation. So
one team's gonna have to shrink it and the other's
gonna have to expand. And we haven't even got to
the Brunson revenge series against a certain coach of the
Indiana Pacers. There's some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
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