May 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Nick Wright joins the show in studio to give a shocking pick to contend for the NFC crown this season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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And Jay Mack, we are joined Nick Wright and this
it's almost Nick dresses more uniquely than any friend I have.
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Nick dresses like he's at the Borgata and he's entering
a poker.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what's so funny? So World Series of Poker
circuit events being held at Commerce Casino this weekend. The
amazing coincidence and luck that the weekend that I was
able to come do radio and television with you, there's
also a major poker event going on fifteen miles from here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You're going to be at it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, as soon as I leave you, that's where I go. Yeah,
of course, yeah, that's there's an esthetic that I'm going for.
When I'm on television, I wear beautiful three piece suits
on first things first, this is more.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Casual and well, it's making a statement.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, I mean it's it looks nice. I mean my
shoes and my jacket match like it's it wasn't, you know,
frivolously put together. There was thought put into it. Maybe
it's not what you would wear, but you also, your
closet's like Homer Simpson, it's eight of the same shirt,
just in different batterns. They're like, oh, it's Tuesday, this
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is my Tuesday shirt.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, of course it's true. But good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You shouldn't dress like your friends if you have a
wide swath of personalities. Yeah, you should not all look
like you golf at the same country club.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You dress the opposite of I do well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean that would imply one of us dresses poorly
because obviously I'm dressing immaculately, So I wouldn't say opposite.
It's just different. But we're all, you know, we're very
you and I. One of the reasons we're such close
friends is there are we have certain personality quirks that
are like one in a million, but you and I
share them exactly, and there are certain things where we
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could not be more different human beings, and that's why
we get along.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
About once a year. I enter your arena. Oh yeah,
and it's smoky.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
There's rum involved.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
There's a whiff, just a whiff of danger. It makes
you feel alive. It's great. It's just great. Yeah, good
to see it, Colin.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Good to see you before we you know, I led
last hour with it. We don't talk a ton of
golf in our space, sure, but you made a point
as we talked about this that Scotty Scheffler the number
one golfer in the world. And this is why I
supported golf first going to the Live Tour. I said,
they can't on their YouTube page. The sport doesn't market him.
The sport kind of shady is a charity. The Masters
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is run by a different group that runs the PGA Championship,
the US Open, the Open over you know, Scotland England werevs.
And my take is it's every man for themselves. They
fly themselves there. The number one golfer in the world
is driving himself in a rental car to a tournament
pitch Black, five thirty in the morning. There's a wreck.
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He has no idea what's going on, and he gets cuffed.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cuffed, thrown a police car, printed mugshotted. He was wearing
the orange thing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
The whole thing is you and you made a great
point when he drove over the median at you know,
four miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This was not I mean, it was Listen what I'm
going I don't mean to be controversial, but it's obvious.
There are the police report read you know, unnamed. A
sailor dragged an officer, however many yards injured the officer,
and that's why we're arresting and booking him and charging
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with all these things. Because it's Scotty Scheffler and it's
actually going to be looked at. It's like, well, does
this make even a lick of sense? Do you think,
Scotty Scheffler. It's like, I'm the best golfer in the world.
I'm probably gonna win this tournament. Let's just commit a
random felony this morning, see if I can get away
with it. Of course not. He wasn't a banker, right,
He wasn't fleeing anyone. He was slowly trying to drive
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around a traffic obstruction, and and an officer got a
little over zealous. And then I think I'm guessing. Just
my gut instinct says, well, all right, this in the report,
who's gonna look into it. This guy's a clown. And
then he finds out, Oh, this is literally, right now
the most important person in the state of Kentucky. I
might have screwed up, and now he's out here golfing.
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I find the whole thing irritating, to be honest. Also,
there are a lot of folks right now that are
really conflicted. They're like, man, my gut instinct tells me
to always back people like Scotti Scheffler, and also always
back any cop in any situation. And I am conflicted
right now. I do not, and I have really split
loyalties at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
All right, let's shift to something. A city I love
is Chicago, and a person we both love, Danny Parkins
on your show this week. Great you guys, And maybe
it's him, and maybe it's my love of Chicago. But
I've been into the Bears for a couple of years
because my entire life. They literally have never had a
four thousand yard passer at quarterback. The Packers have done
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it like thirteen or eighteen times.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
They've never had a quarterback throw for thirty touchdowns in
the season, not once, and never had a quarterback throw
for four thousand yards. You would think it would have
happened by accident. I mean, they're one of the original franchises,
like they and so they've never I mean, honestly, you
do a post sid Luckman, they have never had good
quarterback play in that city for more than a season.
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And a lot of it is because Chicago is You're
kind of classic tough, cold northern city. You gotta wear
a jacket, a heavy jacket to work in May and
there is something about the Steel City, the toughness. Whereas
the Steelers landed a couple of great quarterbacks, there's always
been a toughness about bolt of them. They also landed,
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if I may, the Steelers landed a couple of great quarterbacks.
But to your point about fitting the city, were rugged,
tough quarterbacks, big guys. You know Terry Bradshaw famously to
this day people I understand get we've met Terry, but
the audience probably hasn't it. You will, your hand will
be enveloped in his, like you're shocked at how giant
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of a man he is. Big Ben same thing. Guys
who are big, tough, strong guys fit Pittsburgh exactly right.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So Chicago is just it's their very being. They like
tough and physical and that's Dick but cause and so
you know, they've just always leaned defense. They still celebrate
the eighty five team at halftime three times.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I find it fascinating is the league is now
pivoted to even more offense that here's the moment for
the first time ever. And I think Caleb's gonna work,
and I think the Bears are gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So I think they're I think the Bears are potentially
gonna be excellent. And I don't know if we can
show the schedule or not. But my only concern for
the Bears and for Caleb was okay, so this is
perfect wash before the schedule came out. What if they
get off to a rough start because Caleb's last season
at USC ended poorly, there are still some Bears folks
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that and I think some people in the locker room
that really like justin if he gets off. If the
first game of the season, Green Bay cracks you like
they do every year, and then you have the Niners
in week two and you're zero and two and Caleb's
looking flustered, could a snowball instead. It's the opposite of
the seven teams with the lowest projected win total in football.
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They play five of them in their first nine games,
so they have an excellent opportunity to start six and
three or seven and two, Caleb feeling confident, momentum growing
a Doonesa getting better, Caleb getting better, and him being
not even really a rookie anymore by the time they
played all their divisional games. All their divisional games are
in the final, you know, from week eleven on. So
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that's why I do not think it is. This is
not my official prediction, but as I said yesterday, I'm
flirting with the take I'm considering buying the take a
drink and asking how long it's in town for. I
don't know why the Bears can't win the NFC. We
saw Russell Wilson go to the divisional round as a rookie.
We saw last year CJ. Stroud go to the Divisional
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round as a rookie. Andrew LUCKINRG three made the playoffs
as a rookie. Big Ben made the conference championship game
as a rookie. This team won seven games last year
with bad quarter back bad quarterback play was a top
ten defense once they got Montese Sweat added Roma Doonese,
added Keenan Allen up slightly up the offensive line, and
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went I think Caleb will instantly be above average and
eventually be X B to B plus right out of
the game. And there is not unless you think the
Niners are going to do something only Tom Brady has
done in the last thirty years, which is lose a
Super Bowl and then get back to it the next year.
Then who do we got?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There are a lot of the Packers. I like them.
There were also a nine to eight team last year
that looked amazing in one playoff game against the Cowboy
team that fell apart the Lions. To me, there is
a little, I don't want to say regression possibility, but
the Lions what they did was kept the same team
and just paid the guys more like there's that that
the Eagles over the last two months of football were
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the worst team in the NFL. There I like the
Rams a lot, I will admit, but there's you're worried
about Stafford, very young on defense? Correct, And so my
point is it's not the AFC, where you have a
fut you go four wide on legitimate super contenders. It's
the Niners with a question in my opinion at quarterbacks
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as law, Super Bowl and then a lot of good teams.
So could the Bears get off to a hot start,
could Caleb be feeling himself? Could Caleb, for the first
time in his football life, be like, Oh, I don't
have to score every possession for us to win a game, right?
So I like the Bears a lot this year.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, I want to go to the NBA. So I
you and I love the NBA. You go historic on it, sure,
But I've always had this thing, and I've been pretty
darn accurate where people associate me with quarterbacks. But what
I do is usually the NBA at any one time
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has ten to twelve stars, and there's one I don't like.
Not that I don't like him, but Blake Griffin. I
was like, take the dunks away, what do I get?
He's funny and he can jump over a Kia. He
can't hit a twelve footer, mellow, low efficiency jump shooter,
won't take two stack, not gonna defend, not sure he's
in great shape. Derek Rose not sustainable, paper thin, can't shoot,
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weird spin scoring at the basket.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Westbrook famously obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And the two that I pushed back on a little Tatum.
He disappears on my TV screen. The great ones don't.
There are times he has a role player mentality in
big spots. Marcus Martin, Jalen Brown would fight for the
ball and he'd watch. I know he's good. The other
is Luca. First of all, when I first saw him,
I thought he sussists, sustains his cardiovascular shape on cheese
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its and peanut bar. He looks like he doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, and I'm pretty sure I think when people
are like he came into this season in better shape,
I think it meant he just quit smoking. I think Luca.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I think Luca's and by the way, the.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Eastern European guys, I'm okay with it. I know that's
not fair, but Vlad of Devots, once upon a time,
people didn't know you said, I went historics. I'll do
it again, I'll let you finish. People didn't know why
Volatte fell in the draft, and it was because a
scout went to see him play and during a time
out he smoked a cigarette and we were like, I
don't know that's gonna work. Now, vlade into being an
excellent player. So the the the guys who have the
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accent mark or whatever over the sea in their name, historically,
I think they're just allowed to have a different offseason regiment.
Jokic is racing horses and drinking luke, I thinks smoking hookah.
And then they come in and they're they're great, But
go ahead, I'll let you finish.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm not sure. He's got a little mellow where I'm
not sure he's in the greatest shape. And then there's
some harden where his ball usage is so high. By
the time he gets to the second round, this guy
may he may be out of gas. So and this
year he added defense where he was a more committed player.
So the Tatum, I think I've been right. He's a
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very good player, but he's not top five. He's not
a face of the league. And I think I've been right.
He it's being acknowledged now He's got a little bit
of a number two mentality.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
With a number one body and a and a massive
playoff experience for his age. And there's I don't think,
tell me if I'm wrong about your You don't think,
you don't think. There is nothing there's anything inherently wrong
with Tatum's game the way you thought Westbrook. It's just
that his ceiling is to be the sixth or seventh
best player in the league. Yes, that's Tatum.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Luca, I think is difficult to play with because Luca,
very early in his life could score against older players,
building his confidence. He's a prodigy, offensive prodigy. He is
a prodigy. It's like a musical prodigy. So he has
been grooved of Europe. On he has been grouped. He
gets here and immediately Lebron eight games in is like
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that is unbelievable, unbelievable. So that's like going as an
American soccer player overseas and Ronaldo goes, I want to
play with that game.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay, So he comes over really not in shape, doesn't
play defense. Why would he? He's total, He's the greatest score.
Now he's committing defense. But my take is Jalen Brunson's
emergence is like, he's gonna be hard to play with.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, the Brunton thing is tough, and it's tough for
the MAVs and it's a little tough for Luca. It
also is on the board that Jalen Brunson has just
is not was not anywhere close to this level of
player his time in Dallas. That he has gotten better
and to his credit that he has worked on his
game and all of that. So I but I do
understand people like, well, here was Brunson when he was
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with Luca, and now he's gonna be the best player
on the Conference finalists.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I gets by the way Porzingis went to Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh don't no, I won't agree with you on Porzingis.
Give me a break on Porzingis. Porzingis did it to
himself in Dallas, and Borzingis also got hurt during one
of those playoff runs. The Luca thing, I think you're
going to end up being wrong about this is I
think one of the only Jaymack and I don't agree
on a ton of takes, mostly because he's always trolling
the Chiefs. I think it's intentional at this point. Jmack
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I think you're doing it for engagement. Well you know
that those Jeeps fans may come after you. But your
Luca take is correct. You have been saying, if I
don't want to miss the years, that he is either
the best or will in short or to be the
best player in the league. Correct. Yeah, yeah, that I
think Jmax correct on that, don't. I don't think it's
fair to right now say he's better than Jokichen right
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now he isn't, But I do think he is. It
is on the board that in a month he's holding
the title. I do think that the hardened comp is
where the hardened comp is to me misguided is the
usage is the same, the helio centricity is the same.
But the reason Harden is considered the way he is
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is because in the playoffs his numbers go down across
the board, and the bigger the spot, the worse he
is Luca. From day one of his playoff career, I
think the first playoff game of his life, he had
forty two, nine and seven. In the first playoff series,
he had a game winning three to cap off a
forty point triple double. He is the second highest point
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per game guy in the NBA. Playoff history to Jordan,
and he has been an underdog or the road team
in every series of his career, and yet here is
where he finds himself on the brink of another conference finals.
The criticism of Luca that I think is fair is
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he is so obsessed with the officiating. When he's rolling
and yelling at the refs, it's like an anger that
fuels him. When he's not playing well, it's less yelling
and more like woe is me? Whin Yes, and he
can unravel a bit, But I think he is a
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brilliant player, and I think the MAVs are absolutely live
to be in the finals. And oh man, I didn't
even think of it to it right now? What is
Colin going to do if it's a Tatum Luca NBA finals?
Talk about this was like when it was a couple
years ago when I it was gonna be this Stephan
Jokic one of the two I thought was gonna win
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the champions and like, what am I gonna do? I'm
in a torture chamber here, But yeah, I mean, I
think I think the MAVs could be really good. And
I'll give you another MAVs take real quick. I think Kyrie.
Kyrie deserves credit for being a total professional and leader
this year in a way we've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No question.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He also this round has not been good. He has
two nine point games, a twelve point game. I think
Kyrie he understands his body is not built for two
months of playoff basketball and is trying to moderate his
energy and effort to try to get to the finish line.
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It's a different sport. It's a different sport, and we
saw him. You know, he has only been on three
long playoff runs ever two with Lebron or all three
with Lebron. The first one he didn't make through is
when he broke his knee gap in twenty fifteen or
hurt his knee. And then the next two Obviously he
was amazing in twenty sixteen and in twenty seventeen he
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was amazing, but those Cavs teams rolled through the East
with such little resistance. He had a lot left in
the tank come the finals. Then when he was with Brooklyn,
he got hurt in the playoffs. He was bad in
the playoffs in Boston twice, like or in Boston the
series against Milwaukee. I think Kyrie is trying to modulate,
so he has a lot left over these next couple
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of rounds. And I think the MAVs are really dangerous.
I think they're really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
One of the things when you have kids, you try
to give them an occasional I don't do advice much,
but I try to impart wisdom or experience or an
opinion if they ask. And when the MJ documentary came on,
I told my kids, I said he was the best
looking player, the most stylish, the best the best clutch,
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the best marketed, the best campaign. And it was ten
years of a lot of hell. Rodman was a mess,
the owner was cheap, the GM resented him. It took
him three coaches, I think to get to Phil And
that was Michael, that was Nike behind him, David Stern
behind him. A great American city and it was cocaine
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cowboys early. Remember they had all these the traveling cocaine circus,
as Michael laughed in the documentary. And I tell my kids,
nothing great's ever been accomplished without pain. Never take a
job that you're ready for ever. You have to bail
water for six weeks, or you took too easy of
a job. So when people push back on JJ Reddick,
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I'm like, yeah, he's going to be over his head.
That's how everything is achieved. Everything nothing great's been achieved.
I walked in open the doors like Mahomes. I had
to sit Andy Reid, Barks, Alex Smith, I joined the AFC,
Sure it, Brady's here, and it's like, it's hard. Those
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first couple of years are hard. And so my thing
on JJ Reddick is, Yeah, he's gonna be over skis.
That's why I like it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So here's the thing I don't. I don't necessarily dislike
it in a vacuum, and there there are some obvious
concerns where it. First time head coach is one thing.
First time coach outside of peewee basketball is something entirely different.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That is a legitimate concern. Ye'll be failing.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The point I made to you that I think got
misconstrued a bit on your podcast was I the JJ
is a guy that responds to criticism online, even if
it's not from you know, someone a prominent or a colleague,
just random people. And I think that reveals a level
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of immaturity. Is too strong, But I think that can
get away from you. The bigger the job you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Probably need to be more emotionally remote.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, the bigger, the bigger the job that and so
that was the point I was trying to make. My
real issue with the Lakers if they hire JJ Reddick,
is I do I think so many of I think
the Lakers have an objectively poorly run front office. I
think it is a family business that is run like
a family business. I think Kurt and Linda Rambis have
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outsized influence, and Rob Polinka, because he was Kobe's agent,
has it basically has a lifetime job. I think the
Lakers operate a lot of moves as it might work out,
and if it doesn't, can we blame it on Lebron?
And if you hire the guy he does the podcast
with fair or not? And I know unequivocally Lebron was
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involved in one Lakers coaching hire. He vouched for tylu
They low balled ty Lou, they didn't give him a
real offer. And since then I know this for a fact,
Lebron has stayed out of the coaching hires. So he
is not out there saying hire JJ, but everyone will
if JJ doesn't work out, lay it at Lebron's feet,
just like now did Lebron James want Russell Westbrook, Yes, definitively,
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just like he wanted Kyrie Irving. They said no to
that one. They said yes to Russ just like he
wanted Anthony Davis. They said yes to that, just like
he wanted. A move at the deadline like the MAVs
made which remade their team. They said no to that.
They have no problem saying no to Lebron James, but
any major move they make, they want to make sure
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if it doesn't work out, we can make it clear. Well,
what do you want from us? The King made us
do it, and so I don't know that JJ is
a good or a bad hire. I do know if
it doesn't work out, it will be laid at Lebron's feet,
And I think that's a lack of accountability for your
own decision making.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do you have to get to the poker tournament now?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You know what I can I do? I'll reveal something here.
I you know, Fox was kind enough to fly me
out here in order to talk to you. I didn't
mention the poker piece of it, really, So I think
I can find time for a second segment. I think
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, you know, I've been very supportive of your poker.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, you offered, you know, back in the day. America
doesn't know this. When I was playing, I played phil
Helm youth heads up for fifty thousand dollars at a
time when I didn't have fifty thousand dollars cash to
just put up in a poker tournament, and you kindly.
I didn't take you up on it because I didn't
want to money the fringe of waters. But you offered to,
you know, back me a bit in that. You've always
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been very supportive in poker. And so yeah, no, I
know that if I told you the tournament starts in
forty minutes, i'd leave. But I've got it starts at noon,
so I've got time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, quick break back with Nick on a topic that
I just started talking about. But I like it a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
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Speaker 1 (24:03):
So uh, Nick's wife okay, very much a fashion bird.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Fashion bird that yes, that is correct, that is right
own owns a store in Harlem. If we want to
give it a little prob with Bob trintage, little trendy,
a little vintage. People can come by and check it out.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So Nick, if you've not watched him before, is very
very stylish. I, of course am not.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I bought shoes yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think the shoes you're wearing are what they give
elderly folks to prevent falls. I honestly think that's what
you're wearing. You just showed them to me. I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I was so proud of them.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Why did you buy him? Like, were you in line
at the grocery store and they were next to the candy.
It's like eight dollars? Like, what are you doing? I was,
do you have an image to uphold?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I am so proud of my shoes? Okay, fashion Bird,
we'll talk after this. Okay, Now let me get.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, is the same brand as the jacket. That's why
I said the shoes in the jacket match. It's a
whole ensemble.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So this sounds what I'm gonna propose. Sounds a little sketchy, Okay,
but I'm a believer that sometimes in every business, you
gotta make stuff work.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Could be Illuminati, a handshake, a meeting over cigars cognac.
Somebody says, let's just make it work. Yeah, Caitlin Clark
is the Tiger Woods of the sport. Yes, the finals
got seven hundred thousand people watching, significantly less than UFL games,
which has been around about forty minutes. Yeah, here comes
Caitlin Clark. The schedule is New York twice, Connecticut twice.
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That's like the SEC opening with Georgia and LSU's around
the corner.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So if people don't follow the WNBA, the Las Vegas
Aces are the best team, yes, and New York Liberty
is clearly second best team in Connecticut's right there behind them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it is a brutal open, unlike what the NFL
did with Harbaugh or the Bears. They stacked her and
she has struggled. And this is my I said this earlier.
I'm not sure of the answer. Move up the trade deadline,
get them better assets. I don't know what it is,
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but it looks like to me they didn't plan this
very well with the schedule.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, I the schedule piece of it, I agree.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't think it is they knew a year ago, Well,
they knew six months ago she was going to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On you once the draft lot got adopted. The schedule, well,
there's just certain things you could do that are fair,
but till the scales like so that you in the NFL,
basically we know years out who people are playing and
where the games are going to be played, because it's
by a formula, right, the NFL does not decide who
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anyone is playing. It is your strength of schedule opponents.
There's three of those. Your division, there's six of those.
A division in your conference there's four of those. Division
in the other conference there's four of those. And what
division you get is set years out of time. What
they can schedule is is the order, and as long
as everyone knows who they're playing, is done fairly. Then
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keeping in mind that this is an entertainment product, yes,
and keeping in mind that storylines matter, and keeping in
mind like I have no problem with what they did
with the Jets. Now I think it's too optimistic. But
what they did with the Jets was say, this is
an old team that is more likely to deal with
some type of injuries at the quarterback position or elsewhere
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the deeper into the season we go, but we want
to get them on TV, so put it all in
the first three months of the season. I have no
problem with them with the Chiefs have three games in
ten days in December and an early buy. It's a
little unfortunate for the Chiefs from a health perspective, but
that is the cost of being the biggest draw there is.
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So the NFL understands that we are and entertainment business,
and our entertainment product is football, not a football business
that entertainment is a side piece of. And so yeah,
I do think that would it have been ideal for
Caitlin to have in her first game one of the
worst teams in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
At home, right like kim three home games dregs of
the WNB.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Do I think that would have been smarter? Yes? Do
I think she's going to end up being fine? I do,
But there is a little bit of the not a ton,
but a little bit of the sizzle removed. Yes, because
ten turnovers in her first game and then her game
last night she struggled somewhat.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, So am I supposed to think less of the
Nuggets for being blown out and taken to seven? Or
I can simply validate my opinion on the West Whiz
is it's the adult table. Home court means almost nothing
for Dallas, Okase, Denver Minnesota, Nor did it mean anything
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for the Warriors, who won three of their four championships
on the road three of six. Jordan's on the road.
Great teams, Knicks, Pacers need home. Yep, they're not great teams.
I would argue Boston is closer to great than average
because they can actually go on the road and win
big games.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they're weird because they lose a ton of home games.
They're like five hundred at home in the pluslast.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What am I to make of Denver seven games with Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, listen, no one should be feel badly except for
of course. And this is one of the reasons I
want to make sure I was on TV today Kevin Wilds,
who has been banging the table. No one's in the
same stratosphere as the Denver Nuggets for four months because
calls for gentlemen sweeps mocks me and Brew and now
Wilds and you're not on TV today, buddy, So now
you really can't defend yourself. Nothing you do about it. Sorry,
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should have come to LA as well. Now all of
a sudden, there's a game seven Denver's hole championship hopes
on the line here, and if you I know that
we fast forward dynasties because we want them. A couple
of years ago, there was a team in the NBA
who had an international player who had a couple MVPs
under his belt, who won the championship in dominating fashion,
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who the next year looked like they're going to win
the championship again and then lost a surprising Game six,
and then lost Game seven, be honest in Bucks, and
they have not been out a Round one since, and
so it's now. Do I think Denver is a rightful
favorite in Game seven? I do? But do I think
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that Jamal Murray, if we're being honest turning, Jamal Murray
has been for years in the postseason playing over his
skis more than a bit.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But we know he's better than Josh Hart who's doing
the same. He's a better.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Player, no question about it, but he Jamal Murray was
due for a regression a bit, even if he's still
a great playoff player, and the regressions hitting him hard
this postseason. It's weird because he has the two game winners,
which were unbelievable plays, but his number over the course
of the postseason are not only by his standards bad
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from a true shooting percentage, it's one of the worst
high volume ten game postseason stretches in the last twenty years.
If the Nuggets don't get an a level game from
Jamal Murray in Game seven, the Timberwolves will win. Like
I know what I'm getting from Jokic, And Jokic played
perfect offensive basketball in Games four and five, and that matters.
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It matters that he held them off. It matters that
he kept the team alive in it, and it might
that might be the reason they win the championship. But
Anthony Edwards is not gonna be afraid of the moment.
And game sevens are weird. The Game seven against Giannis,
if you remember it, Grant Williams hit seven threes and
it's like, well we lose, Like you know, is nas
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reed gonna catch fire? And all of a sudden, Denver
is up against it. And I know what I'm gonna
get from Yokic. I know he's gonna be great. If
Jamal Murray's not great and he's had a really rough postseason,
the Timberwolves are gonna win.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Remember that Lakers Celtic goes seven Kobe and Paul Pierce
can't get looks. Meta wins that Kobe six of twenty
four in that game. In that game seven Metaworld Beece
hits the no, No, Yes three.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They win the championship.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
This was great.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It was great to see you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now, I don't play poker.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
When you play poker, h it always looks the crowd is.
I'll say this, when I watch poker is there is
something about there's an image to it. You all look
a little bit like outlaws. There is a sense that
you're living on the fringes of society.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, it's the way it's supposed to be. The late
great Doyle Brunts and my friend, of course, you know,
dealt with you know, it was the illegal and he's
the greatest poker player of all time, kind of took
it into the mainstream. There is a new, you know,
brand of poker player, the young solver type. Do a
lot of studying. You know, they're wearing backpacks, the very
button down and then and there's a group of guys
that you're like, I think your entire net worth is
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in your right front pocket right now, and I like it.
I like it. Those are the rooms. I want to
be able to be in a room with you like
this and then be in that room and feel comfortable
in all those worlds. So yeah, if anyone's going to
be out at the Commerce Casino, I'll see you there
in a few hours. It'll be great, lovely family.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
See you, Colin, See you, Buddy.
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Speaker 1 (34:53):
Jamack with the news.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
This is the heard Line News.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You have some spicy stories here, but I will just
tell you I was just texted a story titled why
the Jets Aaron Rodgers will win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, we'll be talking about that next week for sure.
I gotta get through the article.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Let's start with the Denver Nuggets lost Game six and
embarrassing fashion. Last night. Jamal Murray did not look like himself.
Something happened to his elbow, complaining about it little whiny.
After the game, he was four for eighteen finished with
ten points. Hopes he can get the elbow right for
Game seven.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
I have put some like Numan cream on it just
so I didn't have to feel it every time extended.
But like I said, man, everybody gets her aunt just
got hurt came playing. So it was just the fact
that I was shooting the ball, and you know that's
what I do most, so I was never really into
getting into my rhythm again. And my team obviously needed
me to tonight and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So it's disappointed.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm just pointing myself for not being able to give
them the right production that I.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Know I can.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So does it feel like the kind of stinger that
just with the two days off you feel like you
can get it? I mean hope.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I hope for my feth sake.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I hope for my teeths sake.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That I can get it right. I do think they'll win,
but I think it will be highly contested. I think
it should also be noted these are really well coached teams,
the ability to go back and forth and tweak and
make adjustments.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So why so many blow ups?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, a lot of it is you make adjustments, teams
don't react. I mean, the home court has been mostly irrelevant.
I don't think Sunday home court is going to be
that big of a deal. I think Minnesota's gonna I
think it's going to be super close. I think it's
a five point game either way. And I think great
coaching and great talent renders home court, like the NFL,
not that important.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So you know what clutch time is in the NBA
the final five minutes, whether it's the margin is by
five points. I broke this down on my podcast. There's
been less than two minutes of clutch time basketball.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, Denver is a great clutch time the whole series
less than two minutes. Well, remember years go when Lebron
beat the Warriors Lebron sixteen. That's the sext bad games
and one great win in game seven. So but who
won Game seven? Lebron and Kyrie on the road. Yeah,
and so well who won it? The best player? The
best player in this series is Jokic. Yes, I'll go
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with the best player at home. Line has come down.
It was five and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I saw four.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well, five and a half's too rich. Five and a half.
I'd take the t Wolves. I think the number three
young team.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, game seven is gonna be like Jay McDaniel's
not getting twenty three points in games se that's just
not happening, right, nasried not going on.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean that's I would take the best player, the
experienced team at home. But five and a half points
is way too rich. Game Minnisoda is going to bring it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Game seven unders usually are a lock. I think low scoring,
first to one hundred wins. Assuming anyone gets.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'll go to me. It feels like one oh nine,
one oh four Denver Again. Jokic kind of takes control
with two thirty leaft, couple big possessions and wins.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Game seven Sunday could be two if the Knicks Pacers
go to Game seven h Next up, let's go to
the NFL New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They got Drake May with the third overall pick.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Despite the high selection, the rookie will not start the
way Caleb Williams and Jade McDaniel are starting. Jacoby Brissett
is the veteran quarterback on the roster and is excited
to be a mentor to the young QB.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I'm excited to work with him.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You know, he's.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I remember my well, he's twenty one. I was twenty
two to twenty three, But I remember that when I
was you know, I was following Tom around, you know,
like anywhere I can learn. You know, he's already like
text me about plays and how do I think about this?
And cadence and stuff like that, like just all like
the little nuances of being in this position at this level.
When I was here the first time, you know, it's
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you realize like everybody's your mentor, that's you know, older
than you in this in this league, or have more
experience in And I hope on that for more than
just Drake.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If I got this right, KILEB Williams is starting, Jane
Daniels is starting, bo Nick's is starting. Yeah, Patriots are
saying optimistic things about Drake may Well. He has a mentor,
as Michael Penick doing in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
What's the latest down there?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
He'll be fine. First of all, let's be fair to
Drake may He comes in largely understood by scouts as
the least polished, also has the least weaponry. I think
New England's making the right move to sit in behind
a veteran get another number one, two or three pick
next year. He should sit for most of the year.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
He's only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, So what's happening in what you're seeing? Jaden Daniels
looks ready to play and Drake may doesn't. That's what
the scouts told us would happen, that Jaden would be first.
Can't be ready to go and Drake wouldn't be Drake
may had sloppy footwork inaccurate. I mean, he just needs work.
But he's good, but he needs his trades are good,
but he needs work.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Michael Pennock's ready, absolutely interesting. So he has no chance
of starting, but he's ready.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
He just turned twenty four.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
By the way, happy belated Michael Pennix. Poor guy just
chained to the bench for two years. I want a
bummer of a situation.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
For Michael Pomps. Are you find.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Final stories? The NFL released their schedule earlier this week.
We now know everyone's schedule. One team that is not
happy with how things turned out. That's the Baltimore Ravens.
Apparently they're pretty ticked off, landing the second toughest strength
of schedule according to one Metric. And here're some notable
things on the Ravens roster. They have the late bye.
I don't know how that's a bad thing. You want
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the late by you're worn down lane in the season.
They are playing their twenty second Monday night football game
of the Harbaugh era. Eighteen of them, shockingly have been
road games. Three of their five primetime games are on
the road. Christmas Day game for the fourth time in
franchise history, second in a row on the road.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Just a lot of wacky things.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
The other thing I noticed they have ten opponents who
were in the playoffs last year, most in the NFL. Well,
there are some things you need to look at before
you've crowned these guys.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I actually think at Kansas City to open is a
little bit of a favor Detroit one at Kansas City
last year. It is hard when you just won another
Super Bowl to be revved up. You got the Rashi
Rice situation that worthy that receiver it from Texas is
a rookie. Veterans don't play in camp. That may the
eaton may be good in Kansas City. You're not beating
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Kansas City week twelve of arrowhead Maybe week one's your shot.
Just a thought. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. That
The herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Tomorrow's headlines Today one hour from now. Nick Wright crushed
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And Jay Mack, we are joined Nick Wright and this
it's almost Nick dresses more uniquely than any friend I have.
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Nick dresses like he's at the Borgata and he's entering
a poker.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know what's so funny? So World Series of Poker
circuit events being held at Commerce Casino this weekend. The
amazing coincidence and luck that the weekend that I was
able to come do radio and television with you, there's
also a major poker event going on fifteen miles from here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You're going to be at it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, as soon as I leave you, that's where I go. Yeah,
of course, yeah, that's there's an esthetic that I'm going for.
When I'm on television, I wear beautiful three piece suits
on first things first, this is more.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Casual and well, it's making a statement.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, I mean it's it looks nice. I mean my
shoes and my jacket match like it's it wasn't, you know,
frivolously put together. There was thought put into it. Maybe
it's not what you would wear, but you also, your
closet's like Homer Simpson, it's eight of the same shirt,
just in different batterns. They're like, oh, it's Tuesday, this
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is my Tuesday shirt.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, of course it's true. But good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You shouldn't dress like your friends if you have a
wide swath of personalities. Yeah, you should not all look
like you golf at the same country club.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You dress the opposite of I do well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean that would imply one of us dresses poorly
because obviously I'm dressing immaculately, So I wouldn't say opposite.
It's just different. But we're all, you know, we're very
you and I. One of the reasons we're such close
friends is there are we have certain personality quirks that
are like one in a million, but you and I
share them exactly, and there are certain things where we
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could not be more different human beings, and that's why
we get along.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
About once a year. I enter your arena. Oh yeah,
and it's smoky.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
There's rum involved.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
There's a whiff, just a whiff of danger. It makes
you feel alive. It's great. It's just great. Yeah, good
to see it, Colin.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Good to see you before we you know, I led
last hour with it. We don't talk a ton of
golf in our space, sure, but you made a point
as we talked about this that Scotty Scheffler the number
one golfer in the world. And this is why I
supported golf first going to the Live Tour. I said,
they can't on their YouTube page. The sport doesn't market him.
The sport kind of shady is a charity. The Masters
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is run by a different group that runs the PGA Championship,
the US Open, the Open over you know, Scotland England werevs.
And my take is it's every man for themselves. They
fly themselves there. The number one golfer in the world
is driving himself in a rental car to a tournament
pitch Black, five thirty in the morning. There's a wreck.
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He has no idea what's going on, and he gets cuffed.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cuffed, thrown a police car, printed mugshotted. He was wearing
the orange thing.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
The whole thing is you and you made a great
point when he drove over the median at you know,
four miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This was not I mean, it was Listen what I'm
going I don't mean to be controversial, but it's obvious.
There are the police report read you know, unnamed. A
sailor dragged an officer, however many yards injured the officer,
and that's why we're arresting and booking him and charging
(04:07):
with all these things. Because it's Scotty Scheffler and it's
actually going to be looked at. It's like, well, does
this make even a lick of sense? Do you think,
Scotty Scheffler. It's like, I'm the best golfer in the world.
I'm probably gonna win this tournament. Let's just commit a
random felony this morning, see if I can get away
with it. Of course not. He wasn't a banker, right,
He wasn't fleeing anyone. He was slowly trying to drive
(04:29):
around a traffic obstruction, and and an officer got a
little over zealous. And then I think I'm guessing. Just
my gut instinct says, well, all right, this in the report,
who's gonna look into it. This guy's a clown. And
then he finds out, Oh, this is literally, right now
the most important person in the state of Kentucky. I
might have screwed up, and now he's out here golfing.
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I find the whole thing irritating, to be honest. Also,
there are a lot of folks right now that are
really conflicted. They're like, man, my gut instinct tells me
to always back people like Scotti Scheffler, and also always
back any cop in any situation. And I am conflicted
right now. I do not, and I have really split
loyalties at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
All right, let's shift to something. A city I love
is Chicago, and a person we both love, Danny Parkins
on your show this week. Great you guys, And maybe
it's him, and maybe it's my love of Chicago. But
I've been into the Bears for a couple of years
because my entire life. They literally have never had a
four thousand yard passer at quarterback. The Packers have done
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it like thirteen or eighteen times.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
They've never had a quarterback throw for thirty touchdowns in
the season, not once, and never had a quarterback throw
for four thousand yards. You would think it would have
happened by accident. I mean, they're one of the original franchises,
like they and so they've never I mean, honestly, you
do a post sid Luckman, they have never had good
quarterback play in that city for more than a season.
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And a lot of it is because Chicago is You're
kind of classic tough, cold northern city. You gotta wear
a jacket, a heavy jacket to work in May and
there is something about the Steel City, the toughness. Whereas
the Steelers landed a couple of great quarterbacks, there's always
been a toughness about bolt of them. They also landed,
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if I may, the Steelers landed a couple of great quarterbacks.
But to your point about fitting the city, were rugged,
tough quarterbacks, big guys. You know Terry Bradshaw famously to
this day people I understand get we've met Terry, but
the audience probably hasn't it. You will, your hand will
be enveloped in his, like you're shocked at how giant
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of a man he is. Big Ben same thing. Guys
who are big, tough, strong guys fit Pittsburgh exactly right.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So Chicago is just it's their very being. They like
tough and physical and that's Dick but cause and so
you know, they've just always leaned defense. They still celebrate
the eighty five team at halftime three times.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I find it fascinating is the league is now
pivoted to even more offense that here's the moment for
the first time ever. And I think Caleb's gonna work,
and I think the Bears are gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So I think they're I think the Bears are potentially
gonna be excellent. And I don't know if we can
show the schedule or not. But my only concern for
the Bears and for Caleb was okay, so this is
perfect wash before the schedule came out. What if they
get off to a rough start because Caleb's last season
at USC ended poorly, there are still some Bears folks
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that and I think some people in the locker room
that really like justin if he gets off. If the
first game of the season, Green Bay cracks you like
they do every year, and then you have the Niners
in week two and you're zero and two and Caleb's
looking flustered, could a snowball instead. It's the opposite of
the seven teams with the lowest projected win total in football.
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They play five of them in their first nine games,
so they have an excellent opportunity to start six and
three or seven and two, Caleb feeling confident, momentum growing
a Doonesa getting better, Caleb getting better, and him being
not even really a rookie anymore by the time they
played all their divisional games. All their divisional games are
in the final, you know, from week eleven on. So
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that's why I do not think it is. This is
not my official prediction, but as I said yesterday, I'm
flirting with the take I'm considering buying the take a
drink and asking how long it's in town for. I
don't know why the Bears can't win the NFC. We
saw Russell Wilson go to the divisional round as a rookie.
We saw last year CJ. Stroud go to the Divisional
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round as a rookie. Andrew LUCKINRG three made the playoffs
as a rookie. Big Ben made the conference championship game
as a rookie. This team won seven games last year
with bad quarter back bad quarterback play was a top
ten defense once they got Montese Sweat added Roma Doonese,
added Keenan Allen up slightly up the offensive line, and
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went I think Caleb will instantly be above average and
eventually be X B to B plus right out of
the game. And there is not unless you think the
Niners are going to do something only Tom Brady has
done in the last thirty years, which is lose a
Super Bowl and then get back to it the next year.
Then who do we got?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
There are a lot of the Packers. I like them.
There were also a nine to eight team last year
that looked amazing in one playoff game against the Cowboy
team that fell apart the Lions. To me, there is
a little, I don't want to say regression possibility, but
the Lions what they did was kept the same team
and just paid the guys more like there's that that
the Eagles over the last two months of football were
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the worst team in the NFL. There I like the
Rams a lot, I will admit, but there's you're worried
about Stafford, very young on defense? Correct, And so my
point is it's not the AFC, where you have a
fut you go four wide on legitimate super contenders. It's
the Niners with a question in my opinion at quarterbacks
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as law, Super Bowl and then a lot of good teams.
So could the Bears get off to a hot start,
could Caleb be feeling himself? Could Caleb, for the first
time in his football life, be like, Oh, I don't
have to score every possession for us to win a game, right?
So I like the Bears a lot this year.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, I want to go to the NBA. So I
you and I love the NBA. You go historic on it, sure,
But I've always had this thing, and I've been pretty
darn accurate where people associate me with quarterbacks. But what
I do is usually the NBA at any one time
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has ten to twelve stars, and there's one I don't like.
Not that I don't like him, but Blake Griffin. I
was like, take the dunks away, what do I get?
He's funny and he can jump over a Kia. He
can't hit a twelve footer, mellow, low efficiency jump shooter,
won't take two stack, not gonna defend, not sure he's
in great shape. Derek Rose not sustainable, paper thin, can't shoot,
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weird spin scoring at the basket.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Westbrook famously obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And the two that I pushed back on a little Tatum.
He disappears on my TV screen. The great ones don't.
There are times he has a role player mentality in
big spots. Marcus Martin, Jalen Brown would fight for the
ball and he'd watch. I know he's good. The other
is Luca. First of all, when I first saw him,
I thought he sussists, sustains his cardiovascular shape on cheese
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its and peanut bar. He looks like he doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, well, and I'm pretty sure I think when people
are like he came into this season in better shape,
I think it meant he just quit smoking. I think Luca.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I think Luca's and by the way, the.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Eastern European guys, I'm okay with it. I know that's
not fair, but Vlad of Devots, once upon a time,
people didn't know you said, I went historics. I'll do
it again, I'll let you finish. People didn't know why
Volatte fell in the draft, and it was because a
scout went to see him play and during a time
out he smoked a cigarette and we were like, I
don't know that's gonna work. Now, vlade into being an
excellent player. So the the the guys who have the
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accent mark or whatever over the sea in their name, historically,
I think they're just allowed to have a different offseason regiment.
Jokic is racing horses and drinking luke, I thinks smoking hookah.
And then they come in and they're they're great, But
go ahead, I'll let you finish.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm not sure. He's got a little mellow where I'm
not sure he's in the greatest shape. And then there's
some harden where his ball usage is so high. By
the time he gets to the second round, this guy
may he may be out of gas. So and this
year he added defense where he was a more committed player.
So the Tatum, I think I've been right. He's a
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very good player, but he's not top five. He's not
a face of the league. And I think I've been right.
He it's being acknowledged now He's got a little bit
of a number two mentality.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
With a number one body and a and a massive
playoff experience for his age. And there's I don't think,
tell me if I'm wrong about your You don't think,
you don't think. There is nothing there's anything inherently wrong
with Tatum's game the way you thought Westbrook. It's just
that his ceiling is to be the sixth or seventh
best player in the league. Yes, that's Tatum.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Luca, I think is difficult to play with because Luca,
very early in his life could score against older players,
building his confidence. He's a prodigy, offensive prodigy. He is
a prodigy. It's like a musical prodigy. So he has
been grooved of Europe. On he has been grouped. He
gets here and immediately Lebron eight games in is like
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that is unbelievable, unbelievable. So that's like going as an
American soccer player overseas and Ronaldo goes, I want to
play with that game.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay, So he comes over really not in shape, doesn't
play defense. Why would he? He's total, He's the greatest score.
Now he's committing defense. But my take is Jalen Brunson's
emergence is like, he's gonna be hard to play with.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, the Brunton thing is tough, and it's tough for
the MAVs and it's a little tough for Luca. It
also is on the board that Jalen Brunson has just
is not was not anywhere close to this level of
player his time in Dallas. That he has gotten better
and to his credit that he has worked on his
game and all of that. So I but I do
understand people like, well, here was Brunson when he was
(14:31):
with Luca, and now he's gonna be the best player
on the Conference finalists.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I gets by the way Porzingis went to Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh don't no, I won't agree with you on Porzingis.
Give me a break on Porzingis. Porzingis did it to
himself in Dallas, and Borzingis also got hurt during one
of those playoff runs. The Luca thing, I think you're
going to end up being wrong about this is I
think one of the only Jaymack and I don't agree
on a ton of takes, mostly because he's always trolling
the Chiefs. I think it's intentional at this point. Jmack
(14:58):
I think you're doing it for engagement. Well you know
that those Jeeps fans may come after you. But your
Luca take is correct. You have been saying, if I
don't want to miss the years, that he is either
the best or will in short or to be the
best player in the league. Correct. Yeah, yeah, that I
think Jmax correct on that, don't. I don't think it's
fair to right now say he's better than Jokichen right
(15:19):
now he isn't, But I do think he is. It
is on the board that in a month he's holding
the title. I do think that the hardened comp is
where the hardened comp is to me misguided is the
usage is the same, the helio centricity is the same.
But the reason Harden is considered the way he is
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is because in the playoffs his numbers go down across
the board, and the bigger the spot, the worse he
is Luca. From day one of his playoff career, I
think the first playoff game of his life, he had
forty two, nine and seven. In the first playoff series,
he had a game winning three to cap off a
forty point triple double. He is the second highest point
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per game guy in the NBA. Playoff history to Jordan,
and he has been an underdog or the road team
in every series of his career, and yet here is
where he finds himself on the brink of another conference finals.
The criticism of Luca that I think is fair is
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he is so obsessed with the officiating. When he's rolling
and yelling at the refs, it's like an anger that
fuels him. When he's not playing well, it's less yelling
and more like woe is me? Whin Yes, and he
can unravel a bit, But I think he is a
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brilliant player, and I think the MAVs are absolutely live
to be in the finals. And oh man, I didn't
even think of it to it right now? What is
Colin going to do if it's a Tatum Luca NBA finals?
Talk about this was like when it was a couple
years ago when I it was gonna be this Stephan
Jokic one of the two I thought was gonna win
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the champions and like, what am I gonna do? I'm
in a torture chamber here, But yeah, I mean, I
think I think the MAVs could be really good. And
I'll give you another MAVs take real quick. I think Kyrie.
Kyrie deserves credit for being a total professional and leader
this year in a way we've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No question.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He also this round has not been good. He has
two nine point games, a twelve point game. I think
Kyrie he understands his body is not built for two
months of playoff basketball and is trying to moderate his
energy and effort to try to get to the finish line.
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It's a different sport. It's a different sport, and we
saw him. You know, he has only been on three
long playoff runs ever two with Lebron or all three
with Lebron. The first one he didn't make through is
when he broke his knee gap in twenty fifteen or
hurt his knee. And then the next two Obviously he
was amazing in twenty sixteen and in twenty seventeen he
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was amazing, but those Cavs teams rolled through the East
with such little resistance. He had a lot left in
the tank come the finals. Then when he was with Brooklyn,
he got hurt in the playoffs. He was bad in
the playoffs in Boston twice, like or in Boston the
series against Milwaukee. I think Kyrie is trying to modulate,
so he has a lot left over these next couple
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of rounds. And I think the MAVs are really dangerous.
I think they're really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
One of the things when you have kids, you try
to give them an occasional I don't do advice much,
but I try to impart wisdom or experience or an
opinion if they ask. And when the MJ documentary came on,
I told my kids, I said he was the best
looking player, the most stylish, the best the best clutch,
(18:56):
the best marketed, the best campaign. And it was ten
years of a lot of hell. Rodman was a mess,
the owner was cheap, the GM resented him. It took
him three coaches, I think to get to Phil And
that was Michael, that was Nike behind him, David Stern
behind him. A great American city and it was cocaine
(19:18):
cowboys early. Remember they had all these the traveling cocaine circus,
as Michael laughed in the documentary. And I tell my kids,
nothing great's ever been accomplished without pain. Never take a
job that you're ready for ever. You have to bail
water for six weeks, or you took too easy of
a job. So when people push back on JJ Reddick,
(19:40):
I'm like, yeah, he's going to be over his head.
That's how everything is achieved. Everything nothing great's been achieved.
I walked in open the doors like Mahomes. I had
to sit Andy Reid, Barks, Alex Smith, I joined the AFC,
Sure it, Brady's here, and it's like, it's hard. Those
(20:03):
first couple of years are hard. And so my thing
on JJ Reddick is, Yeah, he's gonna be over skis.
That's why I like it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So here's the thing I don't. I don't necessarily dislike
it in a vacuum, and there there are some obvious
concerns where it. First time head coach is one thing.
First time coach outside of peewee basketball is something entirely different.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That is a legitimate concern. Ye'll be failing.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The point I made to you that I think got
misconstrued a bit on your podcast was I the JJ
is a guy that responds to criticism online, even if
it's not from you know, someone a prominent or a colleague,
just random people. And I think that reveals a level
(20:54):
of immaturity. Is too strong, But I think that can
get away from you. The bigger the job you.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Probably need to be more emotionally remote.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, the bigger, the bigger the job that and so
that was the point I was trying to make. My
real issue with the Lakers if they hire JJ Reddick,
is I do I think so many of I think
the Lakers have an objectively poorly run front office. I
think it is a family business that is run like
a family business. I think Kurt and Linda Rambis have
(21:26):
outsized influence, and Rob Polinka, because he was Kobe's agent,
has it basically has a lifetime job. I think the
Lakers operate a lot of moves as it might work out,
and if it doesn't, can we blame it on Lebron?
And if you hire the guy he does the podcast
with fair or not? And I know unequivocally Lebron was
(21:51):
involved in one Lakers coaching hire. He vouched for tylu
They low balled ty Lou, they didn't give him a
real offer. And since then I know this for a fact,
Lebron has stayed out of the coaching hires. So he
is not out there saying hire JJ, but everyone will
if JJ doesn't work out, lay it at Lebron's feet,
just like now did Lebron James want Russell Westbrook, Yes, definitively,
(22:16):
just like he wanted Kyrie Irving. They said no to
that one. They said yes to Russ just like he
wanted Anthony Davis. They said yes to that, just like
he wanted. A move at the deadline like the MAVs
made which remade their team. They said no to that.
They have no problem saying no to Lebron James, but
any major move they make, they want to make sure
(22:36):
if it doesn't work out, we can make it clear. Well,
what do you want from us? The King made us
do it, and so I don't know that JJ is
a good or a bad hire. I do know if
it doesn't work out, it will be laid at Lebron's feet,
And I think that's a lack of accountability for your
own decision making.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do you have to get to the poker tournament now?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You know what I can I do? I'll reveal something here.
I you know, Fox was kind enough to fly me
out here in order to talk to you. I didn't
mention the poker piece of it, really, So I think
I can find time for a second segment. I think
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, you know, I've been very supportive of your poker.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, you offered, you know, back in the day. America
doesn't know this. When I was playing, I played phil
Helm youth heads up for fifty thousand dollars at a
time when I didn't have fifty thousand dollars cash to
just put up in a poker tournament, and you kindly.
I didn't take you up on it because I didn't
want to money the fringe of waters. But you offered to,
you know, back me a bit in that. You've always
(23:37):
been very supportive in poker. And so yeah, no, I
know that if I told you the tournament starts in
forty minutes, i'd leave. But I've got it starts at noon,
so I've got time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, quick break back with Nick on a topic that
I just started talking about. But I like it a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
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Speaker 1 (24:03):
So uh, Nick's wife okay, very much a fashion bird.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Fashion bird that yes, that is correct, that is right
own owns a store in Harlem. If we want to
give it a little prob with Bob trintage, little trendy,
a little vintage. People can come by and check it out.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So Nick, if you've not watched him before, is very
very stylish. I, of course am not.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I bought shoes yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think the shoes you're wearing are what they give
elderly folks to prevent falls. I honestly think that's what
you're wearing. You just showed them to me. I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I was so proud of them.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Why did you buy him? Like, were you in line
at the grocery store and they were next to the candy.
It's like eight dollars? Like, what are you doing? I was,
do you have an image to uphold?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I am so proud of my shoes? Okay, fashion Bird,
we'll talk after this. Okay, Now let me get.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, is the same brand as the jacket. That's why
I said the shoes in the jacket match. It's a
whole ensemble.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So this sounds what I'm gonna propose. Sounds a little sketchy, Okay,
but I'm a believer that sometimes in every business, you
gotta make stuff work.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Could be Illuminati, a handshake, a meeting over cigars cognac.
Somebody says, let's just make it work. Yeah, Caitlin Clark
is the Tiger Woods of the sport. Yes, the finals
got seven hundred thousand people watching, significantly less than UFL games,
which has been around about forty minutes. Yeah, here comes
Caitlin Clark. The schedule is New York twice, Connecticut twice.
(25:36):
That's like the SEC opening with Georgia and LSU's around
the corner.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So if people don't follow the WNBA, the Las Vegas
Aces are the best team, yes, and New York Liberty
is clearly second best team in Connecticut's right there behind them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it is a brutal open, unlike what the NFL
did with Harbaugh or the Bears. They stacked her and
she has struggled. And this is my I said this earlier.
I'm not sure of the answer. Move up the trade deadline,
get them better assets. I don't know what it is,
(26:08):
but it looks like to me they didn't plan this
very well with the schedule.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, I the schedule piece of it, I agree.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't think it is they knew a year ago, Well,
they knew six months ago she was going to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On you once the draft lot got adopted. The schedule, well,
there's just certain things you could do that are fair,
but till the scales like so that you in the NFL,
basically we know years out who people are playing and
where the games are going to be played, because it's
by a formula, right, the NFL does not decide who
(26:44):
anyone is playing. It is your strength of schedule opponents.
There's three of those. Your division, there's six of those.
A division in your conference there's four of those. Division
in the other conference there's four of those. And what
division you get is set years out of time. What
they can schedule is is the order, and as long
as everyone knows who they're playing, is done fairly. Then
(27:08):
keeping in mind that this is an entertainment product, yes,
and keeping in mind that storylines matter, and keeping in
mind like I have no problem with what they did
with the Jets. Now I think it's too optimistic. But
what they did with the Jets was say, this is
an old team that is more likely to deal with
some type of injuries at the quarterback position or elsewhere
(27:31):
the deeper into the season we go, but we want
to get them on TV, so put it all in
the first three months of the season. I have no
problem with them with the Chiefs have three games in
ten days in December and an early buy. It's a
little unfortunate for the Chiefs from a health perspective, but
that is the cost of being the biggest draw there is.
(27:55):
So the NFL understands that we are and entertainment business,
and our entertainment product is football, not a football business
that entertainment is a side piece of. And so yeah,
I do think that would it have been ideal for
Caitlin to have in her first game one of the
worst teams in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
At home, right like kim three home games dregs of
the WNB.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Do I think that would have been smarter? Yes? Do
I think she's going to end up being fine? I do,
But there is a little bit of the not a ton,
but a little bit of the sizzle removed. Yes, because
ten turnovers in her first game and then her game
last night she struggled somewhat.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, So am I supposed to think less of the
Nuggets for being blown out and taken to seven? Or
I can simply validate my opinion on the West Whiz
is it's the adult table. Home court means almost nothing
for Dallas, Okase, Denver Minnesota, Nor did it mean anything
(28:57):
for the Warriors, who won three of their four championships
on the road three of six. Jordan's on the road.
Great teams, Knicks, Pacers need home. Yep, they're not great teams.
I would argue Boston is closer to great than average
because they can actually go on the road and win
big games.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they're weird because they lose a ton of home games.
They're like five hundred at home in the pluslast.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What am I to make of Denver seven games with Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, listen, no one should be feel badly except for
of course. And this is one of the reasons I
want to make sure I was on TV today Kevin Wilds,
who has been banging the table. No one's in the
same stratosphere as the Denver Nuggets for four months because
calls for gentlemen sweeps mocks me and Brew and now
Wilds and you're not on TV today, buddy, So now
you really can't defend yourself. Nothing you do about it. Sorry,
(29:44):
should have come to LA as well. Now all of
a sudden, there's a game seven Denver's hole championship hopes
on the line here, and if you I know that
we fast forward dynasties because we want them. A couple
of years ago, there was a team in the NBA
who had an international player who had a couple MVPs
under his belt, who won the championship in dominating fashion,
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who the next year looked like they're going to win
the championship again and then lost a surprising Game six,
and then lost Game seven, be honest in Bucks, and
they have not been out a Round one since, and
so it's now. Do I think Denver is a rightful
favorite in Game seven? I do? But do I think
(30:27):
that Jamal Murray, if we're being honest turning, Jamal Murray
has been for years in the postseason playing over his
skis more than a bit.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But we know he's better than Josh Hart who's doing
the same. He's a better.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Player, no question about it, but he Jamal Murray was
due for a regression a bit, even if he's still
a great playoff player, and the regressions hitting him hard
this postseason. It's weird because he has the two game winners,
which were unbelievable plays, but his number over the course
of the postseason are not only by his standards bad
(31:04):
from a true shooting percentage, it's one of the worst
high volume ten game postseason stretches in the last twenty years.
If the Nuggets don't get an a level game from
Jamal Murray in Game seven, the Timberwolves will win. Like
I know what I'm getting from Jokic, And Jokic played
perfect offensive basketball in Games four and five, and that matters.
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It matters that he held them off. It matters that
he kept the team alive in it, and it might
that might be the reason they win the championship. But
Anthony Edwards is not gonna be afraid of the moment.
And game sevens are weird. The Game seven against Giannis,
if you remember it, Grant Williams hit seven threes and
it's like, well we lose, Like you know, is nas
(31:49):
reed gonna catch fire? And all of a sudden, Denver
is up against it. And I know what I'm gonna
get from Yokic. I know he's gonna be great. If
Jamal Murray's not great and he's had a really rough postseason,
the Timberwolves are gonna win.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Remember that Lakers Celtic goes seven Kobe and Paul Pierce
can't get looks. Meta wins that Kobe six of twenty
four in that game. In that game seven Metaworld Beece
hits the no, No, Yes three.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They win the championship.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
This was great.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It was great to see you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now, I don't play poker.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
When you play poker, h it always looks the crowd is.
I'll say this, when I watch poker is there is
something about there's an image to it. You all look
a little bit like outlaws. There is a sense that
you're living on the fringes of society.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, it's the way it's supposed to be. The late
great Doyle Brunts and my friend, of course, you know,
dealt with you know, it was the illegal and he's
the greatest poker player of all time, kind of took
it into the mainstream. There is a new, you know,
brand of poker player, the young solver type. Do a
lot of studying. You know, they're wearing backpacks, the very
button down and then and there's a group of guys
that you're like, I think your entire net worth is
(33:04):
in your right front pocket right now, and I like it.
I like it. Those are the rooms. I want to
be able to be in a room with you like
this and then be in that room and feel comfortable
in all those worlds. So yeah, if anyone's going to
be out at the Commerce Casino, I'll see you there
in a few hours. It'll be great, lovely family.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
See you, Colin, See you, Buddy.
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Speaker 1 (34:53):
Jamack with the news.
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Speaker 3 (35:01):
You have some spicy stories here, but I will just
tell you I was just texted a story titled why
the Jets Aaron Rodgers will win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, we'll be talking about that next week for sure.
I gotta get through the article.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Let's start with the Denver Nuggets lost Game six and
embarrassing fashion. Last night. Jamal Murray did not look like himself.
Something happened to his elbow, complaining about it little whiny.
After the game, he was four for eighteen finished with
ten points. Hopes he can get the elbow right for
Game seven.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
I have put some like Numan cream on it just
so I didn't have to feel it every time extended.
But like I said, man, everybody gets her aunt just
got hurt came playing. So it was just the fact
that I was shooting the ball, and you know that's
what I do most, so I was never really into
getting into my rhythm again. And my team obviously needed
me to tonight and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So it's disappointed.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm just pointing myself for not being able to give
them the right production that I.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Know I can.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So does it feel like the kind of stinger that
just with the two days off you feel like you
can get it? I mean hope.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I hope for my feth sake.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I hope for my teeths sake.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That I can get it right. I do think they'll win,
but I think it will be highly contested. I think
it should also be noted these are really well coached teams,
the ability to go back and forth and tweak and
make adjustments.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So why so many blow ups?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, a lot of it is you make adjustments, teams
don't react. I mean, the home court has been mostly irrelevant.
I don't think Sunday home court is going to be
that big of a deal. I think Minnesota's gonna I
think it's going to be super close. I think it's
a five point game either way. And I think great
coaching and great talent renders home court, like the NFL,
not that important.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So you know what clutch time is in the NBA
the final five minutes, whether it's the margin is by
five points. I broke this down on my podcast. There's
been less than two minutes of clutch time basketball.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, Denver is a great clutch time the whole series
less than two minutes. Well, remember years go when Lebron
beat the Warriors Lebron sixteen. That's the sext bad games
and one great win in game seven. So but who
won Game seven? Lebron and Kyrie on the road. Yeah,
and so well who won it? The best player? The
best player in this series is Jokic. Yes, I'll go
(37:16):
with the best player at home. Line has come down.
It was five and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I saw four.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well, five and a half's too rich. Five and a half.
I'd take the t Wolves. I think the number three
young team.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know, game seven is gonna be like Jay McDaniel's
not getting twenty three points in games se that's just
not happening, right, nasried not going on.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean that's I would take the best player, the
experienced team at home. But five and a half points
is way too rich. Game Minnisoda is going to bring it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Game seven unders usually are a lock. I think low scoring,
first to one hundred wins. Assuming anyone gets.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'll go to me. It feels like one oh nine,
one oh four Denver Again. Jokic kind of takes control
with two thirty leaft, couple big possessions and wins.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Game seven Sunday could be two if the Knicks Pacers
go to Game seven h Next up, let's go to
the NFL New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They got Drake May with the third overall pick.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Despite the high selection, the rookie will not start the
way Caleb Williams and Jade McDaniel are starting. Jacoby Brissett
is the veteran quarterback on the roster and is excited
to be a mentor to the young QB.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I'm excited to work with him.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You know, he's.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I remember my well, he's twenty one. I was twenty
two to twenty three, But I remember that when I
was you know, I was following Tom around, you know,
like anywhere I can learn. You know, he's already like
text me about plays and how do I think about this?
And cadence and stuff like that, like just all like
the little nuances of being in this position at this level.
When I was here the first time, you know, it's
(38:46):
you realize like everybody's your mentor, that's you know, older
than you in this in this league, or have more
experience in And I hope on that for more than
just Drake.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If I got this right, KILEB Williams is starting, Jane
Daniels is starting, bo Nick's is starting. Yeah, Patriots are
saying optimistic things about Drake may Well. He has a mentor,
as Michael Penick doing in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
What's the latest down there?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
He'll be fine. First of all, let's be fair to
Drake may He comes in largely understood by scouts as
the least polished, also has the least weaponry. I think
New England's making the right move to sit in behind
a veteran get another number one, two or three pick
next year. He should sit for most of the year.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
He's only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, So what's happening in what you're seeing? Jaden Daniels
looks ready to play and Drake may doesn't. That's what
the scouts told us would happen, that Jaden would be first.
Can't be ready to go and Drake wouldn't be Drake
may had sloppy footwork inaccurate. I mean, he just needs work.
But he's good, but he needs his trades are good,
but he needs work.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Michael Pennock's ready, absolutely interesting. So he has no chance
of starting, but he's ready.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
He just turned twenty four.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
By the way, happy belated Michael Pennix. Poor guy just
chained to the bench for two years. I want a
bummer of a situation.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
For Michael Pomps. Are you find.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Final stories? The NFL released their schedule earlier this week.
We now know everyone's schedule. One team that is not
happy with how things turned out. That's the Baltimore Ravens.
Apparently they're pretty ticked off, landing the second toughest strength
of schedule according to one Metric. And here're some notable
things on the Ravens roster. They have the late bye.
I don't know how that's a bad thing. You want
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the late by you're worn down lane in the season.
They are playing their twenty second Monday night football game
of the Harbaugh era. Eighteen of them, shockingly have been
road games. Three of their five primetime games are on
the road. Christmas Day game for the fourth time in
franchise history, second in a row on the road.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Just a lot of wacky things.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
The other thing I noticed they have ten opponents who
were in the playoffs last year, most in the NFL. Well,
there are some things you need to look at before
you've crowned these guys.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I actually think at Kansas City to open is a
little bit of a favor Detroit one at Kansas City
last year. It is hard when you just won another
Super Bowl to be revved up. You got the Rashi
Rice situation that worthy that receiver it from Texas is
a rookie. Veterans don't play in camp. That may the
eaton may be good in Kansas City. You're not beating
(41:28):
Kansas City week twelve of arrowhead Maybe week one's your shot.
Just a thought. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. That
The herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
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