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Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's how you doing, my guy? How you feeling?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Brother? Good bro?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Thanks for checking in with men like always.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I always appreciate your time and I never take for
granted DP bro. So I was just when I was
coming down to interview, I started singing you walk out song.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You know they called me on TV singing that shit before.
Remember that I can't be doing that man.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Sitting at the desk at the.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Dusk commentating I'm singing your walkout song.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's good to still be as much of a fan
about it, you know, because you guys, and then you
got that hat tip tip low, you know, kind of
walk with that swag.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What are you feeling in those moments when you're walking
to the opfield? I ran because I was a little nervous, Like,
what are you feeling when.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You I'm nervous too. Yeah, I'm confident, I'm excited. I
know it's about to go down. I mean, I'm minutes
away from whatever the destiny is gonna be. That's exciting, man,
cause it's unknown. You know, the walk You don't no
matter how prepared.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You are, and no matter how many times you do it, Oh,
it doesn't go away.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's like when they tell you it's time to walk
and they start calming down five four.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Three two one.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's some intentionhit. Oh yeah, it's the best though, it
really is the best. Like and that kind of leads
me to this. So last week I'm on uh my
channel and I'm talking about you in your career and
I say something.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I say, I say this. I'm gonna tell exactly what
I said.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Because it's for your channel, this interview.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Yes, it's okay, I said, alright, I said, I said,
I hate hearing that you might walk away because you've
meant so much to the sport, and you've meant so
much to us.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And then also because when you start looking to the end,
like you're a very wealthy man. You know, you've made
a lot of money, you're doing good. It's like easy
to kind of look at the other side and be
okay with the other side because I did that, right,
I put a.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Timeline on my my, uh career.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
When you start talking about the end, what type of
emotions like come over you, cause you're still really young.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You thirty five, right, yeah, thirty five and you got.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Plenty of years left, Like what what type of emotion
are you feeling when you're doing that?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Just really wondering if I can walk away and be
content with not not doing it again, cause I've been
doing it for so long, you know. But yeah, I'm
thirty five, But I have a lot of fights. Man,
I've been in a lot of crazy fights.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But you and I just talk about the rush of
that walk it's a drug. How can you replicate that.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
That's what I what's gonna feel that void post fighting?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Uh, I just need to stay busy and I have
a lot of stuff going on, you know. But I
don't know if anything's ever going to beat that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
There is nothing like it. It's like it literally is,
you'll never like find it again. But I have an idea,
you know, and I can do like a podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, I'm sure you know. I love to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Ogree you agree? No?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, no, no, no, no, you agree?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I got you. I got you.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Right there.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I was like, that's like New Orleans. Yeah, that's like
standing on the corner laughing and you shake it, dude.
That like man, you said, you can give me twenty dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I texted you the other day. I said, the Prudential
Centers on Lafayette Street.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I said, is it destiny? And you said, that's some
crazy shit.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Do you like?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And does any of stuff matter to you?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Though, Dusty, it's cool and it matters to me. But
I know to the main thing, it doesn't. It has
nothing to do with what's going on. But it's it's
good energy. It's good momentum.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
When we met in Miami, right you walked in and
you're coming off the Gaatechee fight.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And I said to myself, I said, I'm to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ask him about a title fight because I know that
he lost the last one. Whatever, but I'm gonna ask
him about a title fight, just to see where his
mind is and see what he thinks he has to
do in order to earn one. And you said I'm
only one good performance from winning the championship. And when
I said it and you said it, I was like, well,
but is been Wi Sondenig gonna be enough? And you said,
(05:21):
if I can beat him in the right way, I'm
one fight away.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Did you feel it in me?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Like, man, I'm gonna be on the short list to
get this championship opportunity.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I thought I was right back in the mix. But
then we had armand Gai chee e.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Things just had to fall into place the exact way
it did for this to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And then when you got to call for islambhav.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Oh, I was at a viewing party in mohegan Son
with my wife, fans everywhere I was. I got to
call the night out three hundred uh mohigan Son. That's
in Atlantic City, non Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh. I was about to say, aymore, thank god you
were in Atlantic City. That play sucks. Atlantic City sucks
so bad. Be Newer. Yeah, that's the real hood out here. Yeah,
I'm heavy. He love no. So when you get that call.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You looked at Jolie. You got a call? No.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Hunter starts texting me right after Arman and Charles get
out the cage. He said, Oh, hey, I'm going to
Armon's locker room right now. Are you willing to jump
into this if? He says, if he turns it down?
He said, cause I guaranteed the winner of this fight
the title shot. So I'm like, well, first of all,
Gatechi had to lose, right cause he would have been
the next guy.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, so Gate you had to lose.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Then Armand had to say no or Charles had to
say no. And I thought those guys might take a
lot of damage and not be able to turn around
in six weeks or five.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But they didn't fight in the st the the fight
wasn't as brutal as some of y'all fights would have been.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
No, no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So it seemed like it was possible.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, for sure. It just happened to happen the way
he did.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And then I waited maybe uh he called me or
text me right after the fight said he's going in
the locker room, and he left me on kind of
waiting Bro. I was like pacing, sweating, like what's going on?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Then about thirty forty minutes he calls me. He says, hey,
you're in you're fighting. You're fighting in New Jersey for
the world title. Like shit, bro packed up my stuff,
flew home, packed up, and flew.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Straight to Florida.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Home would be Louisiana.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, I flew from Connecticut to Louisiana, which is Florida,
which is Louisiana. Connecticut to Louisiana for one day, pack
up all my stuff, and then to Florida.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, so you're claiming that your home is laughing you
just say, I'm just saying you.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Claiming you don't have one to fluffy hats in your closet.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You're like, that's what you did say to me. You
said you might as well be dagonstanding again you are
does the why you're gonna do me like that?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
You did me like that, You did us like that
us the three three seven.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, I don't know, I mean I know we are
the dag Lafayette is the Dagonstan of the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, we are the Daganstand of the United States.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So you get the call that you're fighting Islam, right,
how quickly do you call Matias Gamrock?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Because when I saw him sitting there, I said.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh, you got the right guy to start to help
you prepare for this type of challenge, Like, how quickly
did you gonna go a man, I'm gonna need you?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And how big a part that this man playing?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I think when they announced that he might have hit
me up and said hey, I mean if if you
need me, And he was there as soon as I
got to floor so and we just got off a
camp together. He fought already eight so I gave him
a lot of South Poe work and during that camp
I was fighting uh BSD, so he was giving me
Selth Poe work and we just he beats me up.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Man, this guy's good. This guy's good.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So when you look back on that fight in Miami,
what do you cause he kept wrestling, right, He was
wrestling and wrestling and wrestling and.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Just ben Ben Wall was just yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
But he never took me out once, right, yea, never
took me down once I took it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Think that was preparing you for what do you mean
he took yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Down jumping guillotines. This guy never took me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Down once, but you like that guillotine.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, but he didn't take me down, but he.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Just keeps shooting and shooting and shooting. Was that the expectation?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah, I thought he would be grappling heavy cause he
fought a couple guys from our team and uh, you
know all of his fights, Well, he free Vola, he
knocked out, but that was kind of short.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
You know, I thought he was gonna wrestle.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So you knock him out, you get the title fight,
you start preparation. Do you go back and watch it
could be fight.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
No, I haven't seen it in a while.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's two different right, Yeah, there's different different.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
They're similar, but different styles.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You know, where's the differences?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Could be's more of.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
A he'll take low shots, singles, doubles. Uh, Islam's trying
to body lock, trip clinch a lot. Not saying that
Islam won't shoot low shots, but uh, it's just a
different style. I think the top pressure is similar, but
Islam will take more chances.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Going for submissions, giving up positions.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
You know, Kabee would never roll for an arm bar
or you know, give up position.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Do you think that you can take much from that
last fight? To apply it to this one.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I can take the understanding, you know, I've never felt
pressure like that, and and intelligence of of body positioning
and stuff. Kuld Be does so many things that are
like very intricate that you would you would know cause
you're a lifelong grappler. But there's so much stuff going
on on in there that I never felt. Uh, somebody,
he knew where I was gonna take the next step
before I took it.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
When we were grappling. He knew where my weight was.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
There's a lot of things he does that's incredible, and
I understand that better now.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I had no clue going into it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's always the hardest part about going with someone like that.
That happened.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean, it happened with Jones right cause he was
so long and I didn't understand. Yeah, I would manage that.
But yeah, so Dustin, you fought for the belt. Now
you've lived in these moments, the big moments. How is
your mindset going into this one? And how freeing is
it knowing that man your Hall of Famer regardless you
know of what happens inside the octagon. But when you
(10:18):
win that championship of if you become a champion on Saturday.
Now it's just the icing on the cake. Do you
make it that type those.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Types of steaks?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, and I don't. Honestly, I don't know if I
did enough to be in the Hall of Famer. I
know when the world title would secure that to be
a Hall of Famer, And that's something that's important for me.
It's always you know, growing up as a young fighter,
always looked up to the greats and really put 'em
on a pedestal. And it's such an honor to be
part of that group, you know, the the m and
a royalty. You know, I wanna be when I'm done,
(10:46):
I wanna be part of that cause I feel like
I've given this sport everything and poured so much into it.
Man sacrifice so much to even get to this point.
But uh, I just wanna be content with it all DC.
But I know winning the belt would finish.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's the story. It's the last chapter of the book.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So what what made you bring the the baby here
this time?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Why is she Cause I don't know if I'm gonna
do this again, and uh I want her to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, you know, you know like it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
She'll never not wanna go after this, though, if you
decide to keep going, she'll wanna go to everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it's like your dad becomes a superhero.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah to that kid.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
And it's the unknown out there that's kind of the
part I'm worried about, Like her seeing me bleeding and
stuff like that. You know, she's taking stitches out and
seeing me come home with cuts and black eyes and
broken noses and stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
But she's never seen me like in front of her hurting.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
MM on the Countdown show, you said, looking into the camera, said,
I'm knocking this lo, I'm mark a chive out. Is
there something you've seen in the build or in the
in the prep that let you know that you can
put him off.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I just know if he comes in fumbling over his feet,
his weights over his feet, and he's tryna hit me
with big shots, i'm'a I'm gonna set him up and
he's gonna un into something.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
You know, go ahead, no A.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
And we've seen him hurt before, MM and anybody guys
who haven't been never been dropped, we know they can
be put down.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The human I just think I'm the guy to do it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I was wondering about that, right, seeing that the guy
uh knocked him out way in two thousand fifteen, right,
you know it's there.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's like it's hard to find. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Sometimes we're preparing for people and it's like there is
no real footage of them getting hurt, so it's hard
to really go, well, I'm gonna be the first person
to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But you saw him getting knocked out.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know that a punchkin land you can put him out,
Like can you can you look back on that and say, man,
I can kno?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean, is that part of it?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
For sure? That's with anybody.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
But and even guys who haven't been never touched the
mat in their life, I know I can put him down. Yeah,
I can crack, man, and I have the skills and
timing to put anybody away and and make you make mistakes.
But also if I would look back at that fight,
he's a different fighter now, he fight's completely different, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I just wanted to tell you though, man, Honestly, like,
the reason I don't want you to retire is because
it's selfish.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I'm a fan, man, I don't we it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It'd be hard for us as fans of the UFC
to not have you walk into the eye up the
gun a couple of times a year. Bro, we appreciate
you and your work and Dog, I'm a fan.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I know when I met you way back in the
day walking into that little bullshit jimmy'all had Man, you
know you didn't beat me.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's some bullshit.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Just took you down.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Today you took me down, Dustin.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That was before you moved to doagon stand us so
all my Olympics.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
This shit didn't matter the way you taking me down.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Nope, but you just said my tales takes down Pheis.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm talking about the.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Offense pennantaals game Rock.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I'm betting me teials though I don't know man, and
he looks like he is shaped always.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's my problem.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'm always shape now when I'm wrong a DP. Good
luck this week and my brother, thank you for checking
in with me as always.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, you are the man.
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It's it's too much.
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Have me sweat, yeah, because you can't put it like
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Laugh at they're putting that whole bottle in the California.
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