June 7, 2024 • 31 mins
FOX Sports NBA analyst Jim Jackson sits down with Colin to opine on the possible hiring of Dan Hurley with the Lakers, Caitlin Clark's adjustment to the WNBA, and the NBA Finals
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Jim Jackson, We're gonna have to take that conversation on
the air of Actually.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's the best conversation. It's all about cigars. If anybody
knows me, they know, Okay, where's Jimmy. He's at a
cigar bar. He's somewhere smoking us again.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And great people in cigar bars.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It is some of the best people ever met my life.
Didn't think I had a commonality with somebody because you
sit down and maybe their business man or they work
somewhere else, whatever. But then you start smoking the cigar.
It's like, okay, what kind of cigar are you smoking?
You start talking about that, Then you start talking about
family business. What do you do next? You know, you
find a lot in common. So it's and it's grown folks. Really,
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you know what I mean, it really is you got
to sit and talk and have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You don't have to talk me into it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It took you some time, though, you evolved into the
cigar smoker that I'm proud of you man.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Thank you. I have your admiration. So speaking of Lakers
would smoke a cigar if they could land Dan Hurley?
Do you think he takes it? Should he take it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
With the changing landscape of college basketball, it's it's so difficult.
I think Jay Wright was a precursor to a lot
of things. I think he saw a lot coming early
in regards to with regards to the transfer a portal
where nil was going to pay for play, and not
that they don't want to coach, but now you're basically.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Coaching pro You're a capologist.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You are because now in college you got to figure
out the best recruiting for college coaches now is retention
of your own players.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Of how to keep them.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And that means that now you're going to have to
raise money to over pay to keep a player that's
probably distrunt on the not as patient. And now you're
got to still deal with the bureaucracies of the NCAA,
also with board members, also with alumni, also with you know,
raising money, you might as well go to the league.
(02:18):
You might as well go to the to the NBA
or professional sports because a lot of the back noise
you don't have to deal with as you do in college.
When you're a college coach, you know what it, especially
at a major university, you're like a CEO. You're running everything.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So some of these guys are just if I'm gonna
pay people, I'd rather be a pro coach.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, might as well.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, because the the lifestyle is a lot better,
is a lot different.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, you've done Yukon games, do your work.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean, I love Dan.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I love from a x's and os from a coaching perspective.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He's a little bit younger than me.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I actually I played against Danny when he was at
Seton Hall my junior year. He was a sophomore. Bobby,
his brother, is the same age as me. We came
out of high school together in eighty nine. But I
love his mind as a coach.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
The flip side is that is that he's a fiery individual,
like his mom, like his father, like his brother.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Back they bark.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The transition to be able to do that in the NBA,
especially with a veteran team. That's the challenge because you
just can't turn that switch off. He's fiery and it
works for a reason. It's a reason why his players
respond to that. So I don't worry about the ex's
and I don't worry about basketball and putting basketball people
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around Dan. It's that other side of it that could
be a little tenuous, especially at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So Jim, let me throw this at you. I said
this yesterday. Is the Lakers were in this market and
for twenty years there was no NFL team here. They
owned it, and the Dodgers were good, but they weren't
winning World Series titles, and the Lake were winning. They
own the newspapers, they own talk radio in LA. It
would be like the Yankees without the giants of the Jets.
(04:07):
And they got arrogant and they're not patient. And my
thing is, now, this is a draft and developed league,
the new CBA. You can't have three stars. It doesn't
work that way. Austin's like an outlier. My take is,
are the Lakers built for Hurley, which is Wagner, Rhode Island,
Yukon take about three years to get us going? Are
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they built for that?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The history of tell you know no, and a good
friend of mine, Antonio Daniels, who I love him, is
the color analyst for the Pelicans. Yeah, he uses this
when he talks about the Lakers, and I think it's
spot on organizational arrogance. From this perspective, is that because
the things that you said about the Lakers for so long,
and I was a part of organization briefly, that we
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are the Lakers, you should be honored and provirage to
come here. Rob Polink has a great friend of mine.
Rob was with the Fab five when I was.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Into great guy.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Unbelievable, but they you do have a sense that we're
doing you a favor by bringing you here. So you
remember when tdyd Lou was offered the job where they
were interviewing, well, listen, at the time, a five year
deal was standing there for a guy who won the championship. Okay,
they offered him three years and wanted to pick his
coaching staff. He's like, oh, ho waitit wait, I've won this,
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But in the backdrop was Frank Vogel. You know I'll
take it. I'll take the three years. Darvin Ham, you
bring a first year coach, second year coach, in with
championship aspirations, understanding that there's a learning curve that has
to be there. So your patience is not there now
internally if some other things happen, I don't know what
is there to change now. If you bring in whether
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that's JJ Reddick or a Dan Hurley, their championship window
is now. So what happens if it doesn't happen after
next year? Lebron is on the back end of an extension.
You got to figure out what you want to do
at ad Is it okay championship or bus year two?
And if it doesn't happen, we blow it up, but
we keep the coach and let him grow or do
(06:04):
we search again? Because stability is one thing that you
need Colin, you know that to win.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I think people think the NBA is a mobile league.
Take Lebron out. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, especially when listen what are the things people talk about.
When I was in Dallas, they said, well, why didn't
the matterage work? It's Tony Braxton stuff, this word this, this.
I said, let me tell you something. I was there
five years, five and a half years. I had four
coaches and three owners in that time period. So you
tell me, do you think we establish any kind of continuity,
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any kind of mantra of who we are as a
team and as an organization.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
We had none of that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So how do you expect from a Lakers perspective if
you're changing who sits in that pilot seat every couple
of years. I mean, philosophy, change, defensive schemes, changed everything.
And now you're a co two, Well, you really don't
have control of your roster either.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
On who's they.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Players can smell it, oh big time. They know when
you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
They know when you're in trouble. So it's it's one
of those things. Man, that's as great as an organization.
And that's the that's when you're the Yankees, when you're
the Celtics, when you're the.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You know, Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You deal with these issues because of expectations every year.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
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Speaker 1 (07:36):
Good stuff. I'll get to the finals. I want to go.
Caitlin Clark. I have said, listen, she's okay with it.
We don't know how to handle it. She's not fragile.
In the media, We're kind of fragile. It's just really
hard to go every sport. Bryce Harper spent time in
the miners. Yeah, Alex Rodriguez spent two years in the
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miners and two Goma. Like, basically, Caitlyn gets drafted, they
give her a jersey, an hour later, they blow a whistle,
go play. She's not. She's getting pushed around. So like
my thing is everybody, She's gonna be fine. There's a
racial component, there's a gender component. We don't like to
see girls pushed and picked on him. Just to you know,
I was saying this early. We didn't let women box
(08:20):
in the Olympics till twenty twelve. Yeah, you know, we
were protective. So some of this is just like, wait,
we're not We're okay with guys getting picked on. We
are Joe Burrow getting hit late.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yep, we'll go with that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Some of that we don't like this, which I think
right speaks well. But I think she's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
She is, I mean, the right to passage, right, the
right to passage. You think Norm Nixon was happy when
Magic Johnson came in? Seriously, I mean it's when Michael
Jordan came in. He had his detractors. It goes down
the list with men in with regards to the right
to passage, football, baseball, basketball, hockey, it's a now it
(09:03):
happens in basketball too. Kandas Parker had her share when
she came into the w NBA because she was a star,
and she was a star. Now that not only is
she was NBA Rookie the Year and also won MVP. Yeah,
I mean she's one of the greatest. She's one of
the greatest players ever. The dynamic see everything is timing
with Caitlin Clark. Because college basketball, I'm able to follow
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and see the dynamic.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Bill, Yeah, you're one of the few people that there's
college m pro. You did a bunch of U congame.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Listen the dynamic. People think, well, you weren't talking about
kat and Clark. Yes, you were, You just didn't pay
attention to it. You didn't pay attention to what was
happening in the landscape. But she was doing this before
the National Championship Game. For people in college that really
followed it. The challenge is now that you go to
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the w NBA, who has been growing and those who
followed the game. Understand that the league has been great
for a long time. They it just happened.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, the quality of play, the quality. She's the star, which,
by the way, Connor McGregor was to the UFC. But
the UFC over ten years was getting better fights, better cards,
better fighters, and then Connor just made it explode.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But the timing was right. Connor was the right person
at the right time for the right product. And what
people don't understand is that as good as Angel Reese is,
her story is a lot different than Caitlyn's. Caitlin's story
sells to Middle America.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
To the East coast, or the West coast, to the.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
South, classic Midwest under yeah, that's a story.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So many times you don't have to be the best player,
but your story is a lot better and more intriguing.
So now you're drawing more eyes. That's not making it right,
wrong or indifferent. That's not saying she's better than Angel
Reese or whoever. That's that's that's irrelevant. What's relevant as
the story and the timing and the challenge for the
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w n b A is accepting what comes with that
with with.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Her start with Condor McGregor, with Connor McGregor.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There's gonna be lights and dislikes, But now you've got
more eyes on the TV and you're gonna get You're
gonna that adds more criticism too.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
The thing I think that the w NBA and and
to to their credit, they're like, listen to a lot
of people now is just coming on board and want
to say stuffing you hadn't been following.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But that's what happens. It happens with every sport.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Casuals pour in opinions.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Listen, you think from a minority perspective with the eyes
on PGA when Tiger came, then all of a sudden,
the casual fan came in, became golf experts when Tiger
came because the story was so phenomenal. You have people
that really didn't watch Saturday, Sunday or even Friday golf.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
But it's the same. It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Here in regards to the new eyes and now you've
got more opinions.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, sometimes the story isn't the best player. Baker Mayfield
for a year was the story in the NFL number
one pick rash Cocky one the best player, but he
was a story. He was a story he was on
nine commercials as a rookie.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, people can follow that, they can buy into it
and listen. Steph Corey wasn't the best player, but his
story for Davidson.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And growing in this wild Okay, is he a better
player than Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No, but his story of how he got to where
he's at and what changed is a is very intriguing.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, Steph is the only basketball player. My son wasn't
a big athlete that like he liked, he was small,
he was thinn my son's I could be that the
best stories not always the best player. It just certain
athletes and politicians make us feel.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Is a connectivity, right, connectivity?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Let's talk finally the finals. Sometimes I picked Denver Celtics Finals,
but Minnesota's GM formerly Minnesota to beat Denver. I think
Denver would have clobbered Dallas. Yeah, I don't think they
matched up. So now I watch a Dallas team that's hot,
(13:11):
but flawed, very offensively, lobsided, very much about two guys
I watched last night and I thought hell Tatum didn't
play great and they still rolled them. Is it possible
that Dallas got a huge break that Minnesota knocked out
the team that would have beaten the Denver They matched
up very well with Minnesota, and Dallas may be a
little overwhelmed in this series. They just don't have all
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the pieces to defend all of Boston shooters.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But isn't that what happens in sports, though, because that's
the beauty about the playoffs in the regular season. And
think about this too, how seting matters at the end
of the season. Denver wins a few more games, maybe
they're a higher seed than Minnesota, and things work.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Out different for led by twenty in game seven.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You mean things work out.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Maybe it's not, okay, see at the top, but that's
how it works out. The only thing you can do
as a team is prepare yourself to win and play
whoever's in front of you. Okay, whatever happens in the
other series you can't control now. But we all get
down to it when you get to hear it's all
about matchups. Denver is a better matchup for probably in
the long run, for Boston, but Minnesota was a better
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matchup to beat Denver. Okay, So that's how this thing circulates.
Now when you look at Boston playing the MAVs, the
advantage Dallas had against one of the best defensive teams
in the league was that it was a rim protecting
team defending again, Antonio O'Daniel says, this defensive versatility. What
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would you rather have a rim protector or five guys
that can guard over the court.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's the Celtics bit of that too. But they weren't
mature enough. They choose to stay fundamental. That's right.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So okase, he's a younger, less mature, less refined Boston exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Think about Minnesota's like this. It's like little things.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So everybody is saying, what Rudy Gobert the drop coverage,
the lob passes.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, guess what, Boston played some drop coverage.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But they were disciplined enough not to inch in on
the baseline and give up that corner three where you
know Anthony Edwards and Alexander something with inch in and
bite for Luca and bite for Kyrie for that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Floater and then they spread out to the corner.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
If you notice, it wasn't a lot of open corner
threes for the MAVs. Boston's game plan, Okay, we're gonna
drop coverage. We're gonna force Kyrie and Luca to make
tough twos. We don't care if you make two point shots.
You make two point shots. We want to eliminate those
corner threes. And then on offense, what we have the
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advantage is, Okay, where's Luca. He's over there. Put him
in his pick and roll. We're going at him. You
want to switch, bringing back, We're gonna attack, force you
to help rotate, attack again, force you to rotate. Then
we're gonna get shots. And that's what you saw last
night from Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Beautiful thing. You're gonna have a cigar tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Let me see, let me see and work out in
about an hour, I would say about three thirty j Mack.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Those afternoon cigars are the best.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
What a little come on, we gotta have a little
double espresso.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's like being in Florence, Italy.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Speaking of which I think a man envision that him.
I'm gonna bring that to fruitionan.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Have you ever been to Florence?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Pizza baby walking? What a date with a cigar?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Talk to me, j Max, you should come in.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's a real life.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It's real.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He's a real one here.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Stop stop pooping, j Ma. Just put the ball up, bro,
Come on, over to the grown folks.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's a real one. It's a real life that nonsense
you're shooting checking out.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah people, man, I'm like, man, stop it, man, all right, We're.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Just gonna take a break and go to her. We
don't need her lines, So let's go to your uh
what do you call it? Your headline thing. We don't
really need nothing against your updates. They're very fantastic. But
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yankees Red Sox this weekend on Fox. Three games starting tonight,
New York. The site Yankees. Let's say that I think
the Yankees went two or three. We'll see Dodger staff
missing a couple of arms. Are you ready to go?
We got we should be close. Good series, good series now. Also,
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London Phillies and the Mets. Phillies are having a great year.
Mets of the Mets. So you do a couple of NBA,
you do a couple of NFL, and you've got baseball,
so you are it's a veritable sports page. You've got
you know, you've got Muswell, have an outdoor in a
prep section. You got everything. So here we go. We
call it tomorrow's headlines. Today we're guessing what's gonna happen.
(18:48):
J mack is Game two of the Finals. After that
monstrosity last night, that abysmal showing by Dallas.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, Boston bloodbath in Game one, just that first quarter
avalanche of three pointers. However, we know Dallas they've gotten
I think they trailed by twenty five in.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Three game ones this postseason. Game two.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, so they bounced back in Game two. The headline
will be Luca out below Naviland Berry's Boston.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Ah. Yes, I like Luca with the bounce back.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Now, Jim Jackson just mentioned no corner threes from Dallas
last night, which was weird.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, guess what else?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
There was no lobs, No, none of those Luca Alley
oops to Lively and Gafford for easy dunks. Boston took
all of it away. But you get an extra day
here in the finals.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Prepare. Remember next game's until Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I believe Dallas will make some adjustments, and in that
third quarter they unlocked a couple things. Remember when they
had that big run to get back and cut it
to eight. A lot of driving to the basket. There's
no rim protection outside of Porzingis. He didn't start the
second half. They had Horford on the court, they just
kept running layups. Then Luca hits a couple threes, so
I think they're able to unlock a couple of attacking
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moves toward the basket.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And then, like you.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Said, Kyrie, Irving just has to play better. He missed
I think two wide open threes. Yep, like no defender
even close to him. And it's not like Boston was
unbelievable from deep after the first quarter. So I just
got this number seven to fifteen from deep in the
first quarter rest of the game eight of twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So they kind of like you a level. They verry Boston.
They're hot and cold, but they're hot, they bury.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
You and if they're hot to get a game two
the win. But I don't think they stay hot. So
give me Dallas in game two.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Luca bouncing back, Luca out below.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline for Dan Hurley, the
great Yukon coach being wooed by the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So we've gone back and forth on this right Initially
we were like, this is not that big of a deal.
It's probably not serious. And now it's like, well, wait
a minute, some of the things line up here. It
makes sense for Hurley, he's out here in LA. Currently,
the headline will be you can have him, Lakers twist
arms to get Dan deal done. Look at Jennie buff
there and Lebron. I think Lebron is the biggest X
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factor here, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But let's start with Hurley.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
So he's coached at Wagner Rhode Island in Yukon, and
much like Jim Harbaugh, everywhere he's gone, saw rapid improvement
and he turned things around on all those programs quickly.
He's a very good coach and can build something. The
question here is how does Lebron handle this? Because this
is essentially a signal you and Clutch had a good run.
You got to pick players, you got to pick coaches.
(21:22):
We hear you wish you had Kyrie, you wish you
had Tylu. It's our show now long.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Also, Lebron doesn't love young players. It's gonna be a
little dance here.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I don't want to go too you know, we'd like
strong takes, right, not too many hot takes. But I
think that if Hurley's the guy, I think a legitimate
question is does Lebron want to be part of a
quasi rebuild because they're not going to tear it down, obviously,
but I don't think they're contending.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
If you're getting bringing.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
In Hurley, you're like, Okay, let's start to lay the
groundwork for something for the next.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Time, you can't look at the West. Forget the East.
You can't look at the west. Minnesota Stars twenty two,
Denver's is older, twenty eight, twenty nine, Okcs are both
young kids. You start looking at the West. Dallas Luca
Lakers don't have that. Austin Reeves is their young star.
He's a three to it's probably a four on championship team.
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So in the end, how do they not look at
that and think the future is not Lebron? The future
is draft and develop.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, let's see what happens with early this weekend. But
this is a legitimate question. Do the Lakers if they
decide Hurley's their guy, does Lebron say I'm sorry, it's
not a great fit for me.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And does he look out?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
No, Okay, I'll probably stick it out, But I think
there's there's a discussion to be had.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Does Lebron not want this? Remember Redicks start a podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Next thing, you know, Reddick's the favorite, and now Reddick
is not the favorite anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Colin Well, I think the Lakers want Lebron to end
his career here. It's good for a lot of things.
But I also think they want their franchise back and
Dan Hurley would signify they got their franchise back. I
tend to agree tell tomorrows headlines today some NFL stuff.
What's gonna be a headline for the Noisy Cowboys? CD
(23:09):
Lamb and Micah want their money?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
You know, I tried to gently push the idea upon
you of a trading Micah or dangling CD Lamb to
get because you know who they got to take care of,
the headline will be yeeh, Dak up the Brinks truck. Colin,
give me give all the money to MVP runner up.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know when you.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Mentioned all these Dak notes, you didn't mention he was
a runner up for the MVP Award this year.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Huh interesting how you omitted.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That most verbal players in a contract year, Dak was
the MVP runner up. Colin, Listen, the salary cap keeps
going up in NFL. It's not huge, but it keeps
bumping up. I just I look at the Kyler Murray
forty six million dollar a year number, and I say,
you give back forty seven or forty eight, and he
should be more than fine with that. Now if they
(23:57):
can't figure out a deal, and Dak's like, give me
fifty five.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I think Dak looks a.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Little silly when it gets out in the press, So
I think anything above that Kyler Murray forty six probably
gets this done. And then you move to CD Lamb
and Michaeh Parsons. But you have said this for years.
Quarterback is the most important position in all of sports.
It's overtaken shortstop and point guard or whatever you want
in the NBA, quarterback is everything. You have to figure
(24:22):
it out.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
If you don't have Dak on that team and you
have Micah and CD, You're not going anywhere. Don't don't
try to tell me that you're, Oh, we're gonna find
a rock perty and put.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Him in there.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Listen, man, Dak was the MVP runner up. He gets
you eleven twelve wins every year you're in contention, and
if things break your way, great. I know that's not
good enough for some people who only chase trophies, but
I think you gotta pay Dak first in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
All right, Tua, let's go tomorrow's headlines. Today, Tua's next contract.
You just handing out the bag like you're a Major
League Baseball Yankee owner. You got no limitation this Santa
Claus over here. I listened.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You you've gotta pay quarterbacks. Now, you don't have to
go overboard. But for Tua, the headline will be can't
hardly wait, skinny Tua gets fatter pockets.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yes, you gotta pay too.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I looked at his season, Colin. He was phenomenal this year. Again,
it was a Tua you gotta prove it this season.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
What did he do? He proved it?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
He was outstanding.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I know he kind of craped the bed in Kansas City,
and I just like him.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Sub thirty three I throw it was a better ball
than Dak. He's a more accurate processor and thrower than Dak. Dak.
Dak's a bigger straw. You know, Dak is good. I
don't dislike to. I just think he's small and yeah,
he's limited. We get that.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
You know in the cold weather, playoff games are gonna
stink for him and whoever else is the Miami quarterback.
But I just go back to what we talked about
with McDaniel last hour, where he's like, hey, we haven't
won a playoff game in twenty three seasons. You can't
reboot this thing. Colin and say I will just start
all over. Listen Tyreek Hills. Sorry, but I know you
and Drew Rosenhouse want a new deal. I mean, it's
(26:02):
not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You gotta pay TUA.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
And if you got to move off Tyreek Hill, is
it the worst thing in the world. Kansas City got
a nice little hole for Tyreek Hill. I know they
have Mahomes and Reid, but you're telling me you couldn't
get a nice hole for Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jalen Wadda. Hey, you're our one and we're gonna figure
it out. At wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have to pay TUA again. Kyler Murray is the
flashpoint for me. Forty six mil for that guy per year,
who is not a forty seven million dollar guy.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Not to me. You're a tough, driving owner. Eh, pay
big money infrequently. That's the rule, Okay, and enjoy the seller. Yeah,
it's fund finally huge, biggest baseball regular season series in forever.
Tomorrow's headlines today in Gotham, New York. Dodgers loaded, Yankees loaded.
(26:50):
Not even at full strength. They're missing arms. It's still
a huge series.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah, so out here, I've been a Dodgers fan, been
out here for eight years now, like going to the games,
easy to roof him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I have Dodgers gear, but I.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Was born in New York.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
At heart, I'm a Yankees fan.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
The headline will be no sleep till Brooklyn Dodgers bats
can't wake up in New York. I got the Yankees
within in the series. Colin, listen right now, there's no
hotter team in baseball. Yankees are on fire best record.
I do agree with you that this is like you
turn on the game and it's MVP Canne.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Literally every other at bat is an All Star. Yeah,
like both teams, every other at times an All Star. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Now, interestingly, I just looked this up. Tonight's game is
on Apple TV.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I have that.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
It's almost like Major League Baseball's taking a page out
of the NFL. Oh wait, they put Patrick Mahomes on
Peacock for a big game. Oh why don't we do
that with Apple TV. Yeah, it's gonna drive some subs,
for sure. It's not gonna be messy.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Level impact, But I got Apple TV.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
People are gonna get Apple They want to miss Yankees
Dodgers is a World Series preview, and then tomorrow night
it's on Fox. Should be a great series. I'm taking
the Yanks in two out of three. I don't think
they'll get the sweet But this is, like you said,
the biggest series of the season. You could argue the
biggest regular season matchup in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
No, No, it's it's big. Listen, it's it's there's not
many brands like the Yankee. People freaked out last year
when the Yankees had a down season, and it's like
they hadn't had a down season. It felt like in
fifteen years, like I mean Alabama before Saban got there
was a bit of a mess. Everybody has down season.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I'll just say those it felt like a down season
when they kept losing to the Astros in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
The cheating Astros, those those those were paid. The Astros
now are on the up and up. They've cleaned it
and they're not they're so they're not cheating anymore. Nice. Well,
they had a little they had a little spell there.
They were a little spell on a little sideways. Hopefully
Soto's okay.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I haven't seen the absolute latest in the last five minutes,
but you know, we'd like to see him on the field.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
For the pre court is great. You know, we you
and iowas we talked off the air or behind the
scenes on like what's tomorrow's topic between the w NBA
and baseball that we thought this week was going to
be a nightmare. It was like, there's no topics until
Friday and w NBA. We had a rod on Dave
ro roberts On, We had some NFL news, Good week,
(29:02):
Dan Hurley, Dan Hurley, which is I gotta tell you
it's it's not a slam dunk because you know, and
this is big. His wife's from New Jersey. He has
a beautiful home in a great state, a dominant program.
It's not now he's gonna get twelve million from five
million at California and housing prices gobble up, come bad.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Tax Now, Listen, I had a beautiful home and a
pool and a great yard in Pennsylvania in.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
A nice state. And you know, La came calling and
I was like, I gotta go. You know, so Hurley
maybe he wants to do You don't have a big
yard here? Would you not have a big yard? Yeah?
So what if Hurley's got three dogs, Kenna, You're not
gonna get a yard here. You get a nice house.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
He's gonna nice, probably in the South Bay, like Jim
Harbaugh relocated.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'll just say I think it's fun for Hurley to
come out a new experience in life. His kids are
college age. They're not like an elementary school, middle school.
Hurley out here will be interesting now where it gets
real spice. What if Hurley says no this weekend, Reddick
kind of has the Lakers in a tough spot. You
could just you know, name his price. Does someone else
emerges another candidate, do you go Borrego? Which would be
(30:12):
a little bit of a letout. AD would be happy,
but hopefully this Hurly thing materializes.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well. AD has the longer runway in Los Angeles. That's
who AD wants. So if you end up with the
guy AD wants, that's I mean. Lebron's probably got two
years here, maybe three, maybe two. A D's probably got
four to five and then he wraps his career up.
So I mean, if he gets his guy, that's fine.
You don't have to pay that guy twelve million bucks
(30:37):
a year. You go back to sort of a Darvin
Ham salary. Does Austin Reed's got to say in the
matter or no, you are so down on Austin Reeves.
I'm not down on him. It's just he is what
he is.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He's a herry.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He comes off the bench for the Celtics, the best
team in the league. Yeah, he probably comes off the bench,
off the bench, you think he's a three. The Lakers
standards a little higher than three on a team that
went to the conference finals. Some breaks there a team
getting to the conference finals and winning the title. A
lot of teams get to the NFC Championship, they don't
(31:12):
win the championship. Boston, everybody was hurt this postseason that
they faced. Yeah, but they would have blown through the
East anyway. Yeah, I mean, by the way Porzingis was hurt.
But they're deeper. So the idea that everybody was hurt,
their third best player was hurt didn't matter. They're offensively,
they are the most loaded offensive teams since the Warriors. Yeah,
(31:35):
they are. I mean, I mean Al Horford's at seven
time All Stars. Who's thirty eight percent from the corner
you take out you go to the k D Warriors teams,
that's the most gifted offensive team in fifteen years. Boston's
the best in the last five. Next to that, five
or six
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Jim Jackson, We're gonna have to take that conversation on
the air of Actually.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's the best conversation. It's all about cigars. If anybody
knows me, they know, Okay, where's Jimmy. He's at a
cigar bar. He's somewhere smoking us again.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And great people in cigar bars.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It is some of the best people ever met my life.
Didn't think I had a commonality with somebody because you
sit down and maybe their business man or they work
somewhere else, whatever. But then you start smoking the cigar.
It's like, okay, what kind of cigar are you smoking?
You start talking about that, Then you start talking about
family business. What do you do next? You know, you
find a lot in common. So it's and it's grown folks. Really,
(01:01):
you know what I mean, it really is you got
to sit and talk and have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You don't have to talk me into it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It took you some time, though, you evolved into the
cigar smoker that I'm proud of you man.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Thank you. I have your admiration. So speaking of Lakers
would smoke a cigar if they could land Dan Hurley?
Do you think he takes it? Should he take it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
With the changing landscape of college basketball, it's it's so difficult.
I think Jay Wright was a precursor to a lot
of things. I think he saw a lot coming early
in regards to with regards to the transfer a portal
where nil was going to pay for play, and not
that they don't want to coach, but now you're basically.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Coaching pro You're a capologist.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You are because now in college you got to figure
out the best recruiting for college coaches now is retention
of your own players.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Of how to keep them.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And that means that now you're going to have to
raise money to over pay to keep a player that's
probably distrunt on the not as patient. And now you're
got to still deal with the bureaucracies of the NCAA,
also with board members, also with alumni, also with you know,
raising money, you might as well go to the league.
(02:18):
You might as well go to the to the NBA
or professional sports because a lot of the back noise
you don't have to deal with as you do in college.
When you're a college coach, you know what it, especially
at a major university, you're like a CEO. You're running everything.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So some of these guys are just if I'm gonna
pay people, I'd rather be a pro coach.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, might as well.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, because the the lifestyle is a lot better,
is a lot different.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, you've done Yukon games, do your work.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean, I love Dan.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I love from a x's and os from a coaching perspective.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He's a little bit younger than me.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I actually I played against Danny when he was at
Seton Hall my junior year. He was a sophomore. Bobby,
his brother, is the same age as me. We came
out of high school together in eighty nine. But I
love his mind as a coach.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
The flip side is that is that he's a fiery individual,
like his mom, like his father, like his brother.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Back they bark.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The transition to be able to do that in the NBA,
especially with a veteran team. That's the challenge because you
just can't turn that switch off. He's fiery and it
works for a reason. It's a reason why his players
respond to that. So I don't worry about the ex's
and I don't worry about basketball and putting basketball people
(03:37):
around Dan. It's that other side of it that could
be a little tenuous, especially at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So Jim, let me throw this at you. I said
this yesterday. Is the Lakers were in this market and
for twenty years there was no NFL team here. They
owned it, and the Dodgers were good, but they weren't
winning World Series titles, and the Lake were winning. They
own the newspapers, they own talk radio in LA. It
would be like the Yankees without the giants of the Jets.
(04:07):
And they got arrogant and they're not patient. And my
thing is, now, this is a draft and developed league,
the new CBA. You can't have three stars. It doesn't
work that way. Austin's like an outlier. My take is,
are the Lakers built for Hurley, which is Wagner, Rhode Island,
Yukon take about three years to get us going? Are
(04:28):
they built for that?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The history of tell you know no, and a good
friend of mine, Antonio Daniels, who I love him, is
the color analyst for the Pelicans. Yeah, he uses this
when he talks about the Lakers, and I think it's
spot on organizational arrogance. From this perspective, is that because
the things that you said about the Lakers for so long,
and I was a part of organization briefly, that we
(04:51):
are the Lakers, you should be honored and provirage to
come here. Rob Polink has a great friend of mine.
Rob was with the Fab five when I was.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Into great guy.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Unbelievable, but they you do have a sense that we're
doing you a favor by bringing you here. So you
remember when tdyd Lou was offered the job where they
were interviewing, well, listen, at the time, a five year
deal was standing there for a guy who won the championship. Okay,
they offered him three years and wanted to pick his
coaching staff. He's like, oh, ho waitit wait, I've won this,
(05:20):
But in the backdrop was Frank Vogel. You know I'll
take it. I'll take the three years. Darvin Ham, you
bring a first year coach, second year coach, in with
championship aspirations, understanding that there's a learning curve that has
to be there. So your patience is not there now
internally if some other things happen, I don't know what
is there to change now. If you bring in whether
(05:41):
that's JJ Reddick or a Dan Hurley, their championship window
is now. So what happens if it doesn't happen after
next year? Lebron is on the back end of an extension.
You got to figure out what you want to do
at ad Is it okay championship or bus year two?
And if it doesn't happen, we blow it up, but
we keep the coach and let him grow or do
(06:04):
we search again? Because stability is one thing that you
need Colin, you know that to win.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I think people think the NBA is a mobile league.
Take Lebron out. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, especially when listen what are the things people talk about.
When I was in Dallas, they said, well, why didn't
the matterage work? It's Tony Braxton stuff, this word this, this.
I said, let me tell you something. I was there
five years, five and a half years. I had four
coaches and three owners in that time period. So you
tell me, do you think we establish any kind of continuity,
(06:39):
any kind of mantra of who we are as a
team and as an organization.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
We had none of that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So how do you expect from a Lakers perspective if
you're changing who sits in that pilot seat every couple
of years. I mean, philosophy, change, defensive schemes, changed everything.
And now you're a co two, Well, you really don't
have control of your roster either.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
On who's they.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Players can smell it, oh big time. They know when
you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
They know when you're in trouble. So it's it's one
of those things. Man, that's as great as an organization.
And that's the that's when you're the Yankees, when you're
the Celtics, when you're the.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You know, Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You deal with these issues because of expectations every year.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
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Speaker 1 (07:36):
Good stuff. I'll get to the finals. I want to go.
Caitlin Clark. I have said, listen, she's okay with it.
We don't know how to handle it. She's not fragile.
In the media, We're kind of fragile. It's just really
hard to go every sport. Bryce Harper spent time in
the miners. Yeah, Alex Rodriguez spent two years in the
(07:59):
miners and two Goma. Like, basically, Caitlyn gets drafted, they
give her a jersey, an hour later, they blow a whistle,
go play. She's not. She's getting pushed around. So like
my thing is everybody, She's gonna be fine. There's a
racial component, there's a gender component. We don't like to
see girls pushed and picked on him. Just to you know,
I was saying this early. We didn't let women box
(08:20):
in the Olympics till twenty twelve. Yeah, you know, we
were protective. So some of this is just like, wait,
we're not We're okay with guys getting picked on. We
are Joe Burrow getting hit late.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yep, we'll go with that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Some of that we don't like this, which I think
right speaks well. But I think she's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
She is, I mean, the right to passage, right, the
right to passage. You think Norm Nixon was happy when
Magic Johnson came in? Seriously, I mean it's when Michael
Jordan came in. He had his detractors. It goes down
the list with men in with regards to the right
to passage, football, baseball, basketball, hockey, it's a now it
(09:03):
happens in basketball too. Kandas Parker had her share when
she came into the w NBA because she was a star,
and she was a star. Now that not only is
she was NBA Rookie the Year and also won MVP. Yeah,
I mean she's one of the greatest. She's one of
the greatest players ever. The dynamic see everything is timing
with Caitlin Clark. Because college basketball, I'm able to follow
(09:25):
and see the dynamic.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Bill, Yeah, you're one of the few people that there's
college m pro. You did a bunch of U congame.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Listen the dynamic. People think, well, you weren't talking about
kat and Clark. Yes, you were, You just didn't pay
attention to it. You didn't pay attention to what was
happening in the landscape. But she was doing this before
the National Championship Game. For people in college that really
followed it. The challenge is now that you go to
(09:52):
the w NBA, who has been growing and those who
followed the game. Understand that the league has been great
for a long time. They it just happened.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, the quality of play, the quality. She's the star, which,
by the way, Connor McGregor was to the UFC. But
the UFC over ten years was getting better fights, better cards,
better fighters, and then Connor just made it explode.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But the timing was right. Connor was the right person
at the right time for the right product. And what
people don't understand is that as good as Angel Reese is,
her story is a lot different than Caitlyn's. Caitlin's story
sells to Middle America.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
To the East coast, or the West coast, to the.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
South, classic Midwest under yeah, that's a story.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So many times you don't have to be the best player,
but your story is a lot better and more intriguing.
So now you're drawing more eyes. That's not making it right,
wrong or indifferent. That's not saying she's better than Angel
Reese or whoever. That's that's that's irrelevant. What's relevant as
the story and the timing and the challenge for the
(11:00):
w n b A is accepting what comes with that
with with.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Her start with Condor McGregor, with Connor McGregor.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There's gonna be lights and dislikes, But now you've got
more eyes on the TV and you're gonna get You're
gonna that adds more criticism too.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
The thing I think that the w NBA and and
to to their credit, they're like, listen to a lot
of people now is just coming on board and want
to say stuffing you hadn't been following.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But that's what happens. It happens with every sport.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Casuals pour in opinions.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Listen, you think from a minority perspective with the eyes
on PGA when Tiger came, then all of a sudden,
the casual fan came in, became golf experts when Tiger
came because the story was so phenomenal. You have people
that really didn't watch Saturday, Sunday or even Friday golf.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
But it's the same. It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Here in regards to the new eyes and now you've
got more opinions.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, sometimes the story isn't the best player. Baker Mayfield
for a year was the story in the NFL number
one pick rash Cocky one the best player, but he
was a story. He was a story he was on
nine commercials as a rookie.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, people can follow that, they can buy into it
and listen. Steph Corey wasn't the best player, but his
story for Davidson.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And growing in this wild Okay, is he a better
player than Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No, but his story of how he got to where
he's at and what changed is a is very intriguing.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, Steph is the only basketball player. My son wasn't
a big athlete that like he liked, he was small,
he was thinn my son's I could be that the
best stories not always the best player. It just certain
athletes and politicians make us feel.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Is a connectivity, right, connectivity?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Let's talk finally the finals. Sometimes I picked Denver Celtics Finals,
but Minnesota's GM formerly Minnesota to beat Denver. I think
Denver would have clobbered Dallas. Yeah, I don't think they
matched up. So now I watch a Dallas team that's hot,
(13:11):
but flawed, very offensively, lobsided, very much about two guys
I watched last night and I thought hell Tatum didn't
play great and they still rolled them. Is it possible
that Dallas got a huge break that Minnesota knocked out
the team that would have beaten the Denver They matched
up very well with Minnesota, and Dallas may be a
little overwhelmed in this series. They just don't have all
(13:34):
the pieces to defend all of Boston shooters.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But isn't that what happens in sports, though, because that's
the beauty about the playoffs in the regular season. And
think about this too, how seting matters at the end
of the season. Denver wins a few more games, maybe
they're a higher seed than Minnesota, and things work.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Out different for led by twenty in game seven.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You mean things work out.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Maybe it's not, okay, see at the top, but that's
how it works out. The only thing you can do
as a team is prepare yourself to win and play
whoever's in front of you. Okay, whatever happens in the
other series you can't control now. But we all get
down to it when you get to hear it's all
about matchups. Denver is a better matchup for probably in
the long run, for Boston, but Minnesota was a better
(14:26):
matchup to beat Denver. Okay, So that's how this thing circulates.
Now when you look at Boston playing the MAVs, the
advantage Dallas had against one of the best defensive teams
in the league was that it was a rim protecting
team defending again, Antonio O'Daniel says, this defensive versatility. What
(14:51):
would you rather have a rim protector or five guys
that can guard over the court.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's the Celtics bit of that too. But they weren't
mature enough. They choose to stay fundamental. That's right.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So okase, he's a younger, less mature, less refined Boston exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Think about Minnesota's like this. It's like little things.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So everybody is saying, what Rudy Gobert the drop coverage,
the lob passes.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, guess what, Boston played some drop coverage.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But they were disciplined enough not to inch in on
the baseline and give up that corner three where you
know Anthony Edwards and Alexander something with inch in and
bite for Luca and bite for Kyrie for that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Floater and then they spread out to the corner.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
If you notice, it wasn't a lot of open corner
threes for the MAVs. Boston's game plan, Okay, we're gonna
drop coverage. We're gonna force Kyrie and Luca to make
tough twos. We don't care if you make two point shots.
You make two point shots. We want to eliminate those
corner threes. And then on offense, what we have the
(15:55):
advantage is, Okay, where's Luca. He's over there. Put him
in his pick and roll. We're going at him. You
want to switch, bringing back, We're gonna attack, force you
to help rotate, attack again, force you to rotate. Then
we're gonna get shots. And that's what you saw last
night from Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Beautiful thing. You're gonna have a cigar tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Let me see, let me see and work out in
about an hour, I would say about three thirty j Mack.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Those afternoon cigars are the best.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
What a little come on, we gotta have a little
double espresso.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's like being in Florence, Italy.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Speaking of which I think a man envision that him.
I'm gonna bring that to fruitionan.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Have you ever been to Florence?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Pizza baby walking? What a date with a cigar?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Talk to me, j Max, you should come in.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's a real life.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It's real.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He's a real one here.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Stop stop pooping, j Ma. Just put the ball up, bro,
Come on, over to the grown folks.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's a real one. It's a real life that nonsense
you're shooting checking out.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah people, man, I'm like, man, stop it, man, all right, We're.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Just gonna take a break and go to her. We
don't need her lines, So let's go to your uh
what do you call it? Your headline thing. We don't
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yankees Red Sox this weekend on Fox. Three games starting tonight,
New York. The site Yankees. Let's say that I think
the Yankees went two or three. We'll see Dodger staff
missing a couple of arms. Are you ready to go?
We got we should be close. Good series, good series now. Also,
(18:26):
London Phillies and the Mets. Phillies are having a great year.
Mets of the Mets. So you do a couple of NBA,
you do a couple of NFL, and you've got baseball,
so you are it's a veritable sports page. You've got
you know, you've got Muswell, have an outdoor in a
prep section. You got everything. So here we go. We
call it tomorrow's headlines. Today we're guessing what's gonna happen.
(18:48):
J mack is Game two of the Finals. After that
monstrosity last night, that abysmal showing by Dallas.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, Boston bloodbath in Game one, just that first quarter
avalanche of three pointers. However, we know Dallas they've gotten
I think they trailed by twenty five in.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Three game ones this postseason. Game two.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, so they bounced back in Game two. The headline
will be Luca out below Naviland Berry's Boston.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Ah. Yes, I like Luca with the bounce back.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Now, Jim Jackson just mentioned no corner threes from Dallas
last night, which was weird.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, guess what else?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
There was no lobs, No, none of those Luca Alley
oops to Lively and Gafford for easy dunks. Boston took
all of it away. But you get an extra day
here in the finals.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Prepare. Remember next game's until Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I believe Dallas will make some adjustments, and in that
third quarter they unlocked a couple things. Remember when they
had that big run to get back and cut it
to eight. A lot of driving to the basket. There's
no rim protection outside of Porzingis. He didn't start the
second half. They had Horford on the court, they just
kept running layups. Then Luca hits a couple threes, so
I think they're able to unlock a couple of attacking
(19:56):
moves toward the basket.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And then, like you.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Said, Kyrie, Irving just has to play better. He missed
I think two wide open threes. Yep, like no defender
even close to him. And it's not like Boston was
unbelievable from deep after the first quarter. So I just
got this number seven to fifteen from deep in the
first quarter rest of the game eight of twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So they kind of like you a level. They verry Boston.
They're hot and cold, but they're hot, they bury.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
You and if they're hot to get a game two
the win. But I don't think they stay hot. So
give me Dallas in game two.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Luca bouncing back, Luca out below.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline for Dan Hurley, the
great Yukon coach being wooed by the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So we've gone back and forth on this right Initially
we were like, this is not that big of a deal.
It's probably not serious. And now it's like, well, wait
a minute, some of the things line up here. It
makes sense for Hurley, he's out here in LA. Currently,
the headline will be you can have him, Lakers twist
arms to get Dan deal done. Look at Jennie buff
there and Lebron. I think Lebron is the biggest X
(20:59):
factor here, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But let's start with Hurley.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
So he's coached at Wagner Rhode Island in Yukon, and
much like Jim Harbaugh, everywhere he's gone, saw rapid improvement
and he turned things around on all those programs quickly.
He's a very good coach and can build something. The
question here is how does Lebron handle this? Because this
is essentially a signal you and Clutch had a good run.
You got to pick players, you got to pick coaches.
(21:22):
We hear you wish you had Kyrie, you wish you
had Tylu. It's our show now long.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Also, Lebron doesn't love young players. It's gonna be a
little dance here.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I don't want to go too you know, we'd like
strong takes, right, not too many hot takes. But I
think that if Hurley's the guy, I think a legitimate
question is does Lebron want to be part of a
quasi rebuild because they're not going to tear it down, obviously,
but I don't think they're contending.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
If you're getting bringing.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
In Hurley, you're like, Okay, let's start to lay the
groundwork for something for the next.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Time, you can't look at the West. Forget the East.
You can't look at the west. Minnesota Stars twenty two,
Denver's is older, twenty eight, twenty nine, Okcs are both
young kids. You start looking at the West. Dallas Luca
Lakers don't have that. Austin Reeves is their young star.
He's a three to it's probably a four on championship team.
(22:15):
So in the end, how do they not look at
that and think the future is not Lebron? The future
is draft and develop.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, let's see what happens with early this weekend. But
this is a legitimate question. Do the Lakers if they
decide Hurley's their guy, does Lebron say I'm sorry, it's
not a great fit for me.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And does he look out?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
No, Okay, I'll probably stick it out, But I think
there's there's a discussion to be had.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Does Lebron not want this? Remember Redicks start a podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Next thing, you know, Reddick's the favorite, and now Reddick
is not the favorite anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Colin Well, I think the Lakers want Lebron to end
his career here. It's good for a lot of things.
But I also think they want their franchise back and
Dan Hurley would signify they got their franchise back. I
tend to agree tell tomorrows headlines today some NFL stuff.
What's gonna be a headline for the Noisy Cowboys? CD
(23:09):
Lamb and Micah want their money?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
You know, I tried to gently push the idea upon
you of a trading Micah or dangling CD Lamb to
get because you know who they got to take care of,
the headline will be yeeh, Dak up the Brinks truck. Colin,
give me give all the money to MVP runner up.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know when you.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Mentioned all these Dak notes, you didn't mention he was
a runner up for the MVP Award this year.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Huh interesting how you omitted.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That most verbal players in a contract year, Dak was
the MVP runner up. Colin, Listen, the salary cap keeps
going up in NFL. It's not huge, but it keeps
bumping up. I just I look at the Kyler Murray
forty six million dollar a year number, and I say,
you give back forty seven or forty eight, and he
should be more than fine with that. Now if they
(23:57):
can't figure out a deal, and Dak's like, give me
fifty five.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I think Dak looks a.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Little silly when it gets out in the press, So
I think anything above that Kyler Murray forty six probably
gets this done. And then you move to CD Lamb
and Michaeh Parsons. But you have said this for years.
Quarterback is the most important position in all of sports.
It's overtaken shortstop and point guard or whatever you want
in the NBA, quarterback is everything. You have to figure
(24:22):
it out.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
If you don't have Dak on that team and you
have Micah and CD, You're not going anywhere. Don't don't
try to tell me that you're, Oh, we're gonna find
a rock perty and put.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Him in there.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Listen, man, Dak was the MVP runner up. He gets
you eleven twelve wins every year you're in contention, and
if things break your way, great. I know that's not
good enough for some people who only chase trophies, but
I think you gotta pay Dak first in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
All right, Tua, let's go tomorrow's headlines. Today, Tua's next contract.
You just handing out the bag like you're a Major
League Baseball Yankee owner. You got no limitation this Santa
Claus over here. I listened.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You you've gotta pay quarterbacks. Now, you don't have to
go overboard. But for Tua, the headline will be can't
hardly wait, skinny Tua gets fatter pockets.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yes, you gotta pay too.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I looked at his season, Colin. He was phenomenal this year. Again,
it was a Tua you gotta prove it this season.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
What did he do? He proved it?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
He was outstanding.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I know he kind of craped the bed in Kansas City,
and I just like him.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Sub thirty three I throw it was a better ball
than Dak. He's a more accurate processor and thrower than Dak. Dak.
Dak's a bigger straw. You know, Dak is good. I
don't dislike to. I just think he's small and yeah,
he's limited. We get that.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
You know in the cold weather, playoff games are gonna
stink for him and whoever else is the Miami quarterback.
But I just go back to what we talked about
with McDaniel last hour, where he's like, hey, we haven't
won a playoff game in twenty three seasons. You can't
reboot this thing. Colin and say I will just start
all over. Listen Tyreek Hills. Sorry, but I know you
and Drew Rosenhouse want a new deal. I mean, it's
(26:02):
not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You gotta pay TUA.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
And if you got to move off Tyreek Hill, is
it the worst thing in the world. Kansas City got
a nice little hole for Tyreek Hill. I know they
have Mahomes and Reid, but you're telling me you couldn't
get a nice hole for Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jalen Wadda. Hey, you're our one and we're gonna figure
it out. At wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have to pay TUA again. Kyler Murray is the
flashpoint for me. Forty six mil for that guy per year,
who is not a forty seven million dollar guy.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Not to me. You're a tough, driving owner. Eh, pay
big money infrequently. That's the rule, Okay, and enjoy the seller. Yeah,
it's fund finally huge, biggest baseball regular season series in forever.
Tomorrow's headlines today in Gotham, New York. Dodgers loaded, Yankees loaded.
(26:50):
Not even at full strength. They're missing arms. It's still
a huge series.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah, so out here, I've been a Dodgers fan, been
out here for eight years now, like going to the games,
easy to roof him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I have Dodgers gear, but I.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Was born in New York.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
At heart, I'm a Yankees fan.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
The headline will be no sleep till Brooklyn Dodgers bats
can't wake up in New York. I got the Yankees
within in the series. Colin, listen right now, there's no
hotter team in baseball. Yankees are on fire best record.
I do agree with you that this is like you
turn on the game and it's MVP Canne.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Literally every other at bat is an All Star. Yeah,
like both teams, every other at times an All Star. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Now, interestingly, I just looked this up. Tonight's game is
on Apple TV.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I have that.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
It's almost like Major League Baseball's taking a page out
of the NFL. Oh wait, they put Patrick Mahomes on
Peacock for a big game. Oh why don't we do
that with Apple TV. Yeah, it's gonna drive some subs,
for sure. It's not gonna be messy.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Level impact, But I got Apple TV.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
People are gonna get Apple They want to miss Yankees
Dodgers is a World Series preview, and then tomorrow night
it's on Fox. Should be a great series. I'm taking
the Yanks in two out of three. I don't think
they'll get the sweet But this is, like you said,
the biggest series of the season. You could argue the
biggest regular season matchup in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
No, No, it's it's big. Listen, it's it's there's not
many brands like the Yankee. People freaked out last year
when the Yankees had a down season, and it's like
they hadn't had a down season. It felt like in
fifteen years, like I mean Alabama before Saban got there
was a bit of a mess. Everybody has down season.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I'll just say those it felt like a down season
when they kept losing to the Astros in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
The cheating Astros, those those those were paid. The Astros
now are on the up and up. They've cleaned it
and they're not they're so they're not cheating anymore. Nice. Well,
they had a little they had a little spell there.
They were a little spell on a little sideways. Hopefully
Soto's okay.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I haven't seen the absolute latest in the last five minutes,
but you know, we'd like to see him on the field.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
For the pre court is great. You know, we you
and iowas we talked off the air or behind the
scenes on like what's tomorrow's topic between the w NBA
and baseball that we thought this week was going to
be a nightmare. It was like, there's no topics until
Friday and w NBA. We had a rod on Dave
ro roberts On, We had some NFL news, Good week,
(29:02):
Dan Hurley, Dan Hurley, which is I gotta tell you
it's it's not a slam dunk because you know, and
this is big. His wife's from New Jersey. He has
a beautiful home in a great state, a dominant program.
It's not now he's gonna get twelve million from five
million at California and housing prices gobble up, come bad.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Tax Now, Listen, I had a beautiful home and a
pool and a great yard in Pennsylvania in.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
A nice state. And you know, La came calling and
I was like, I gotta go. You know, so Hurley
maybe he wants to do You don't have a big
yard here? Would you not have a big yard? Yeah?
So what if Hurley's got three dogs, Kenna, You're not
gonna get a yard here. You get a nice house.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
He's gonna nice, probably in the South Bay, like Jim
Harbaugh relocated.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'll just say I think it's fun for Hurley to
come out a new experience in life. His kids are
college age. They're not like an elementary school, middle school.
Hurley out here will be interesting now where it gets
real spice. What if Hurley says no this weekend, Reddick
kind of has the Lakers in a tough spot. You
could just you know, name his price. Does someone else
emerges another candidate, do you go Borrego? Which would be
(30:12):
a little bit of a letout. AD would be happy,
but hopefully this Hurly thing materializes.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well. AD has the longer runway in Los Angeles. That's
who AD wants. So if you end up with the
guy AD wants, that's I mean. Lebron's probably got two
years here, maybe three, maybe two. A D's probably got
four to five and then he wraps his career up.
So I mean, if he gets his guy, that's fine.
You don't have to pay that guy twelve million bucks
(30:37):
a year. You go back to sort of a Darvin
Ham salary. Does Austin Reed's got to say in the
matter or no, you are so down on Austin Reeves.
I'm not down on him. It's just he is what
he is.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He's a herry.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He comes off the bench for the Celtics, the best
team in the league. Yeah, he probably comes off the bench,
off the bench, you think he's a three. The Lakers
standards a little higher than three on a team that
went to the conference finals. Some breaks there a team
getting to the conference finals and winning the title. A
lot of teams get to the NFC Championship, they don't
(31:12):
win the championship. Boston, everybody was hurt this postseason that
they faced. Yeah, but they would have blown through the
East anyway. Yeah, I mean, by the way Porzingis was hurt.
But they're deeper. So the idea that everybody was hurt,
their third best player was hurt didn't matter. They're offensively,
they are the most loaded offensive teams since the Warriors. Yeah,
(31:35):
they are. I mean, I mean Al Horford's at seven
time All Stars. Who's thirty eight percent from the corner
you take out you go to the k D Warriors teams,
that's the most gifted offensive team in fifteen years. Boston's
the best in the last five. Next to that, five
or six
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