June 10, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin points out the obvious reason the Celtics have taken a commanding 2-0 lead in the NBA Finals over the Mavericks
Caitlin Clark not being picked for the USA Women's team is ridiculous
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, it is a Monday. We could have breaking
new on Dan Hurley, Yukon coach and the Lakers gig.
I got a feeling. I know what's gonna happen. We're
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day, jamac A lot of things going on.
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What's not going on is the Mavericks offense very much
a one man team. Listen, it happens sometimes in these
big events you don't get a great matchup, a big fight,
a super Bowl. This looks lobsided? Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And you call Kyrie Irving for as much you know
as we kissed his butt the last two weeks, he's
been atrocious to the final.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
He can't do anything against anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I do not believe this is a difficult finals
to explain. Number One, that's why I picked the Celtics
in six. They've got a much deeper roster, especially offensively.
They just got more guys that could score twenty two points. Secondly,
Kyrie is projecting that it doesn't bother him. Clearly it does.
The fans in Boston are in his head. He's played
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like garbage the first two games. Another thing is the
Celtics are hunting Luca. This is one of the things
we talked about before the series. Make Luca work on
the defensive end. He will eventually wear down. I didn't
think he'd wear down by Game two, but he looks tired,
fatigued and beat up, and porzingis when he's healthy. I'm sorry,
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He's just different. He matters a lot. This has become
a one man team Luca against a much deeper roster.
It reminds me of some of those Lebron James finals
where he was overmatched. The difference is Luca is not
getting blamed. Lebron always took all the heat. The Celtics
right now have five different players, five averaging sixteen or more.
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Dallas has won. You could walk into a YMCA and say,
see the talent disparity here. The Celtics, Biggs, Horford, Porzingis
are just much more experienced and more skilled than the
Mavericks Bigs. Sometimes in sports you just get bad matchups,
even in a national championship. We've seen it in college football.
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A lot Denver Boston what everybody thought would happen didn't
happen because the Nuggets blew a twenty point lead in
Game seven. That would be a great finals. I mean,
to sum it up, Luca had a bad second half yesterday,
just a bad second half, more turnovers than field goals made.
And Dallas circle the drain. Jason Tatum's been off for
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two straight games in the finals and they've rolled in both.
It's just different rosters. Boston got a lot more dudes. Now,
the West has been deeper than the East for the
last two decades or more, but that doesn't mean the
best team can't come out of the East. I mean,
Porzingis didn't play at all in those playoffs in the East,
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and they rolled over everybody. And I think if he
was missing, this would be a much more competitive series.
But it should be noted as much Boston dominated the
Eastern Conference regular season and playoffs. They also had a
record of twenty five and seven in the regular season
against the West, so they're the best team best point differential.
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We said this last week, the NBA would prefer you
not be able to do what the Celtics did, which
is add two excellent players to already two three really
good players. It feels lobsided. It feels like a mismatch.
So if you go back and look at the playoffs,
you've seen sweeps, gentlemen sweeps and mismatches, and the Celtics
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have been involved in most of them. It's got a
very rock paper scissors feel to it, varsity versus JV.
And I think Luca summed up the loss after.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's what the number one team in the NBA, with
the number one record, they have a lot of great players. Pratically,
anybody can get off. So honestly, I think we didn't
do a bad job defending today. We took away some trees.
We can test some more trees. But like I say,
you know, I had too many turnovers and we missed
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a lot of fritters, so I think that costs to Ciya.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I said this last week. The Celtics are too good
and too deep not to win at least one finals.
They're a little too odd and historically weird to be
a dynasty. And by the end of next year, Derek White,
they won't be able to afford him. I imagine, you know,
poor Zingis's health, Drew Holliday's getting older. But for this year,
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this looks like easily the best team. And next year,
my guess is they win again in the East and
meet the Denver Nuggets again. But right now, you've got
yourself a mismatch the Bigs for Boston. More skilled, older
defensive wings, Boston's got more offensive fluidity, Boston's better. It's
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not close. So a big story over the weekend. Caitlin Clark,
who is not one of the top twelve to fifteen
WNBA players, did not make the Olympic team. I hear
that all the time, But Christian Latner wasn't one of
the top one hundred players in the NBA and he
made an Olympic team. Jalen Brown, for the record, is
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not on this Olympic team. He's one of the top
fifteen players. He's gonna win finals, MVP potentially. Diana Tarassi
is not one of the fifteen best players in the
women's game. She's making the team. Olympic basketball team men's
and women's has always been subjective and very political. At
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the end of the roster, Isaiah Thomas didn't make it.
Why Michael Jordan didn't like him? To me, it feels
like an opportunity wasted when Connor McGregor came into the UFC.
There were fighters over the last five six years who
passed up immediate title fights to fight Connor McGregor. Why, eyeballs, Yeah,
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you don't think when Tiger Woods had that ten twelve
year historic run, guys didn't fight to be in his
foursome eyeballs. The WNBA finals had seven hundred thousand viewers.
The draft that included Caitlin Clark had three times as many.
I would make the argument, like a Tiger Woods or
a Connor McGregor in their prime, she'll make other people
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money beyond herself. Rising tide lifts all boats. Instead of
getting seven million viewers, you'll get fourteen to eighteen with
Caitlin Clark, maybe more. The fifth, sixth, seventh, eight ninth,
best player on the women's Olympic team would make six
or seven figures in endorsements. The women's basketball team does
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not lose in the Olympics. I think they've won seven
straight Golds. You probably didn't know that because you didn't watch,
and you would life. Whether it's a relationship, business, sports,
life gives you so few big waves when they do.
Grab your surfboard, Bryce Harper, boxing's never had another Muhammad Ali,
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Tiger Woods, Connor McGregor, Caitlyn Clark. I'm hearing all this rigidity.
I know women's basketball. I've covered the women's Olympics. Nobody
knows it like me. Oh god, you sound like an
old baseball writer. Stop being precious, Stop being rigid, Stop
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telling us how much you know. Here's what I know.
WNBA now is flying chartered flights. She would triple the
TV ratings. Again, life doesn't give you. Sports doesn't give you.
Business doesn't give you a lot of these kind of waves.
Grab the surfboard. She's here for you. By the way,
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the NBA would die to have a domestic star nearly
as popular as Caitlin Clark. Oh wait, they do, Anthony Edwards.
They put him on the team. Anthony Edwards today is
not as good as Jalen Brown. I think he could
be by the end of next year, and I think
after the trade deadline. I've said this, he and Wemby
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could be surging as faces of the league. But Aunt
Edwards isn't as good as Jalen Brown. Now. Aunt is unred,
He's up and down, he's hot and cold. Jalen Brown's
great every night. They found a spot for him on
the team. Women's basketball feels like it's suffering from spite
or historically low self esteem, where they want to prove
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that they know more than you do. Here's what I know.
Caitlin Clark would make all the other women on the
Olympic team money. She'd make them more famous, She'd give
them opportunities. They'd become potentially more household names. It's not
just about Caitlin Clark. In fact, I'd argue it's very
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little about Caitlin Clark. It's an opportunity wasted. You go
ahead and lecturous about how you know the game, and
you've covered the Olympics. Good for you. But some stuff
is business. One oh one. This is a layup and
you blew it. It's not a three sixty, it's not
a no look. It's not beating the Celtics. This was
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a layup and you bricked it all right, j Mac.
We got a lot of stuff going on. Taylor Clark,
by the way, has been amazing. Here's she's so good.
Here's what she said to the media.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Honestly, no disappointment, Like I think it just gives you something,
something to work for. You know, that's a dream. You know,
hopefully one day I can be there. And I think
it's just a little more motivation. You remember that, and
you know hopefully in four years, when four years comes
back around, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I can be there again. There you go. Every time
she talks, she says the right thing. It reminds me
a lot of Taylor Swift, you know, like, like you
do realize this won't last forever. Taylor Swift is not
going to have seven of her other tours as big
as the last one. Even for rock stars, Muhammad Ali
had probably five big fights, a lot of them nobody watched, right, Like,
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this is a moment in time time you seese it.
In four years she'll be a good WNBA player, she'll
be an all star, but it won't feel like this. Yeah,
this was your moment. This was the wave, grab the surfboard.
Get on it. It's the biggest wave coming for the
next two to three four years.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's funny Drew Holliday, who's starring in the NBA Finals
right now.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He's not one of the twelve best players.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
In the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He's on the Olympic team because a fit and roll.
And you're telling me Caitlin Clark the best three point shooter.
I know, not percentage wise, but she's the best three
point shooter in women's basketball. She's dropping bombs in thirty
telling me there's no rule. It's not a real reach
in a three ball era. It's not a reach for
either the men's or the women's Olympic team to say, listen,
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this player's not quite there yet, but we may get
down to somebody in the Olympics. They can get us
back with three shots, nine points and forty seconds. That
it's not like you're asking to put like a limited
defensive player or just a big who doesn't run the floor.
Talking about an elite ballhandler, passer and shooter. In a
ball handler, passer shooter era, you can find a spot
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on the bench for And I love the point where, well,
what if she doesn't play her fans are going to
be outraged.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Caitlin Clark's going to get on the court. She's too
good of a competitor. Like worry about that down the world. Yeah,
that's one of those I pay way too much in taxes.
I paid a million dollars in taxes. Probably not the
worst problem in the world. We'll give you an update
on Dan Hurley. My hunch he'll stay at Yukon. That
is my hunch. We'll see Colin Wright Colin Wrong forty
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five minutes from now.
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Speaker 1 (12:42):
So Dan Hurley is the coach of Yukon for now.
My gut feeling is he would take the Yukon job.
I bumped into a couple of different people over the
weekend and talk to somebody this morning that Hurley on
Friday night Saturday night was back in the East Coast
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and was asking people he wasn't quite sure what to do.
My takeaway, if you know it's the job, you decide
that on the flight back. You kind of know in
your gut if it's the job, that doesn't mean he
wouldn't take it. It's double the three times the money.
But you know one of the things I saw in
the article. He told ESPN, Well, it's a very compelling case.
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They made a very compelling case for the job. What
is it. Lebron's forty AD is brittle and they don't
have two of their four first round picks in the
next four years. They don't have two to four. You
could be the next coach K staying in college basketball.
And for the record, Coach K turned down a monster
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deal with the Lakers years ago, and he was probably
smart to do it. In the last ten years, the
Lakers have won fifty or more games one time. That's
with Kobe and Lebron and a D. The West is deep,
it's young, it's getting better. The Lakers is not a
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great job. Don't confuse that with it's a big brand.
Timing is everything. It doesn't feel like the timing is great.
They don't have a ton of draft capital. You've got
to deal with the Lebron age issue. AD was completely
healthy last year. You trust he'll do that again. There
is a sea of money for the talented people in
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this country. Men and women take the right job, not
just the paycheck. After about three paychecks, that'll get old fast.
If you're banging your head against the wall needing Austin
Reeves to be your number two because Lebron took another
night off. It is a limited roster. It is a
massive brand. I wouldn't take it. There's going to be
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six to seven openings next year, in the year after,
could be all over the league. Multiple East Coast jobs,
East Coast wife, East coast guy. My my feeling is
if I was Dan Hurley, this isn't a job for him.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well, let me just say, I hope you're wrong. I
think Hurley taking it would be a gold mine. You
love that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
We're in the interesting business. I don't think it gets more.
It's more interesting than Dan Hurley giving the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, but if you're winning forty games? How interesting?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Well, how do you know they're gonna win forty games?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You don't know that, Denver, Minnesota? OKAC.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well, we'll see how they reshaped the roster this summer,
although hopefully it involves keeping Austin Reeves. Let's get started
with the Lakers coaching sarch Colin Uh. It may come
to a closuer today, maybe in the next couple hours.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
However, interesting name that popped up over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
According to Mark Stein, who you previously work with, former
Villanova head coach Jay Wright could be a stealth candidate
they for the Lakers head coaching position, and he expects
more information to surface whether Hurley lands the.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Job or not now.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Jay Wright left Villanova a couple of years ago. Obviously
an amazing basketball coach. He is a little older than
Hurley's sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Two, also lived in Vegas for several years. He knows
the West Coast well. I covered him when he was
at UNLV, so he knows the West Coast. He's recruited
California extensively, So this to me is an interesting fit.
Hurley feels very East coast. Jay feels East coast, but
a little more amenable to a West Coast swing. I
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don't think Jay's gonna take it either. I text Jay.
Jay loves what he's doing with the broadcasting. He's fully
engaged with it. He's very good at it. So again,
sometimes no is a really powerful word. And if you're
Jay Wright, for the next five years and Dan Hurley
for the next ten. Say no all the time until
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you find a better job with realistic expectations, closer to
family and home, with draft capital to build it the
way you did in college draft capital.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Really you think a sixty two year old Jay Wright
cares about draft capital.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think he's good at building cultures and building players.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yes, well he was at Villanova at this age. Do
you think he wants to build something like it's like Popovich?
You know, he's way up there in age and now
you got web.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Thing you witch is like mid seventies, like sixty Do you.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Think Jay Wright wants to be like on the sideline
barking at like sixty eight years old? How many We
don't see a lot of NBA coaches that age.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Anymore, Colin, I don't think sixty is I'm sixty.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
No, I said sixty eight in a few years, you know,
not a few years.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If you're a Laker coach for eight years, that means
you would have had a championship or they wouldn't have
retained you. Eight years is a long time in NBA
coaching circle. You take a job at sixty one, sixty two,
and you last as sixty eight sixty nine. They don't
keep you in LA unless you got rings or of
course close to it. Yeah, yeah, so I so you
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think Jay Wright? I think I Again, I'm saying if
if I was the agent of Dan Hurley or Jay Wright,
I'd say pass for now. I don't think this is
a great job. It's old Lebron clutch sports. On a
lot of nights, Austin Reeves has to be your two.
Are you watching the Celtics? Wait a minute, well, Al
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Horford's you're six. You're not competing against Denver when Michael
Porter's your.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Four, unless unless Genie Buss and Polinka said, hey, guys,
we've got to convince Hurley that this is not a
clutch sports organization.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Lebron's got one or two years left.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
We need to transition to our next phase, the post
clutch phase, or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Lebron's gonna sign a three year deal the minute this
coaching hire happened.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
It'll be like a one plus one or two plus one.
He's come on, you really think Lebron's was he thirty nine?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You think he's here until forty two?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah? I do. I think he likes the money. I
think he likes the action. Yeah, I think I think
he will.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I wonder if we're seeing a splint splinter inside the Lakers,
like Genie Buss, Hey, you guys had a good run, Lebron,
you got two years left. It does feel like it's
coming to the It's like the Warriors. Remember they should
have broke things up last year, Now they end up.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The answer is almost OHA's be proactive, not react. The
Lakers feel like they're reacting to a lot of things.
They're not proactive. They're reacting to a lot of things.
I think they're going to sign a coach the minute
they do. Lebron signs a big contract again. This this
this job is fraught with land mines. It's a brand
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right now. Not like it's not like college sports, where
let's say you're Alabama football pre Nick Saban or Texas
football pre Sark, where you're beaten up. You could turn
it over in two years. You can turn the whole
roster over with a transfer portal in two seasons. You
can't do that in the NBA. You gotta have matching sound.
There's all sorts of issues and obstacles and roadblocks to
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making deals it's fun. You're yes, it's fun unless you're
a coach getting run out and want to turn it over.
This is not close to a championship roster, now, Camember
Austin Reeves on many nights because ad Or Lebron Sith
is your second best player. Come on, he does not
start for the Celtics. I'm not sure he starts for Denver,
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don't I don't know if he starts for OKC.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh well, he starts for He's better than KCP. Stop it,
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
He can run some point. You are what did you
become an Austin Reeves hater? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm just he's fun and talented. All right, Let's move
on to Dak Prescott. You know, listen, Dek Prescott seemingly
in the news every day because he's waiting for his
big contract. Dak is entering the final year of his deal.
Despite the lack of job security, He's ready to roll
the dice.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is there.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Just you should always have to be honest. So maybe
guys who normally wouldn't fill a phill it so so
I don't mind it. I've been in this position before.
MC gambling man will gamble on myself and my guys,
so not actually guys with that, not that way. Just
a hog.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, good for him. I always like, I always think
he's great at the microphone betting on himself. Now he's funny.
He's good, He's very very good. He there are so
many things about him that yell scream franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh oh, I see looking at the screen.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
There's no hurry news is there? I don't have my
stuff open anyways.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Final story, Bronco has moved on from Russell Wilson this offseason.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Their new quarterback room features Bo Nicks, who they drafted,
and former Jet Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Here's a report colin.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Zach Wilson is crushing in camp and he is in
the mix for the week one starting job.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's June. What do you mean week one, week one
of preseason?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Listen man, week one starting gig against Seattle, that'll be
week one of the season.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You excited about Zach Wilson to be a backup? Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What does that say about Bo Nicks? H'm Zack Wilson
beats him out.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I wouldn't believe any of this nonsense, Okay, but I
do think this is a good place for him. Okay,
here's you done. Yeah yeah, J McK of the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
Linine News.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The Yucon's practice is now scheduled for two o'clock this afternoon.
Dan Hurley is not on campus yet, sources tell Fox
Sports John Fanta, who is a college basketball reporter for Fox.
So Hurley's not on campus yet. Practice is scheduled for
two o'clock this afternoon. Very interesting. I'm just saying, if
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I was Hurley, I'd stay out east. But money talks.
I was told it's weird who you bump into in
Los Angeles. I was told they offered him the job.
He was very excited. One of his kids was here,
one or two. They were very excited. Before there was
a lot of excitement. But you know, wife is from
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the East Coast, lots of family ties to the East Coast.
For you, you just move you're young. But for a lot
of people, this is it's not like Yukon. Yukon right
now is the best college basketball program in America, not
in not Kansas, not Syracuse. And they own the East Coast,
They own a region that still loves the sport.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's great, wonderful. Life is about a call to adventure.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And if Dan Hurley gets a chance to coach the Lakers,
the most glamorous franchise in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Boy, I think you got to jump at that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh look, I'm coaching the greatest player in the history
of the sport, Lebroni's I'm my team.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That is amazing. That would have been great eight years ago.
Here are the pros and cons. So let's look at
the pros and cons for Dan Hurley. The pros, you
double your salary or more. That's that's good. Nice, No
more nil, no more transfer portal wears a lot of
coaches out. It's a higher quality of basketball. You're just
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dealing with the world's best players. And listen, he's an
ascending coach. It's the next step in your career. You've
obviously aced. You know Wagner, Rhode Island in Yukon. This
guy's taken several steps. The cons, I don't care what
you make, job security, good luck. The Lebron factor, the
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clutch sports factor. He's run every team he's been on.
The offense has to run through Lebron. And if you
watch Dan Hurley's offense. Lebron and Dan Hurley's offense aren't ideal.
Number three. It's an aging roster. You're two best players.
One's old, one's brittle. Number four. The Western Conference, everybody's
got a rising star except you, Denver, Minnesota, Dallas, Sacramento,
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everybody's got a rising star. Accents, let me do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The Lakers are one of two teams that had two
All NBA players. To all NBA players, one's gonna be forty,
So he was still playing in a top Is he
twenty five, eight and seven or some ridiculous status year.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Lebron was tremendous. Yeah, I can't believe you're acting like this. Colm,
I'm just a little disappointed.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean, Hurley is an awesome coach. Do you know
what he would mean to the Lakers? Maybe they need
some tough love? Is there Darvinham who you know we
hear stuff about. He just would be unprepared and carrying.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It from a corporation standpoint. I'm taking it from Dan
Hurley's standpoint. I know Dan. I like Dan, Dan's agent.
I'm thinking of it like Dan would think of it.
You're thinking of it like, oh, it'd be good for
the city. Why do I care. I've never lived here.
If I'm Dan Hurley, I'd be good for the Lakers.
What do I care? I didn't grow up with the Lakers.
That all sounds good to a Laker fan, but he
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doesn't have any attachment to that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So you know, these coaches, We've talked to a lot
of them, NFL coaches. They feel like they can fix
any quarterback.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They just I can solve.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I know the problem for this guy. Sean Payton looked
a Russell Wilson said, you had a couple of venues.
I got this.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
These coaches have massive egos that they can fix.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And I will tell you this Saturday night, I had
a friend in the same circle as Dan Hurley, and
Dan was unsure. He was asking people. He was unsure,
he just didn't know. Usually, if I'm doing that, I
tend to be somebody that I go with my gut.
I do the homework, then I let it rip right
like I'm gonna go with my gut. If I'm asking
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people who aren't even associated with me, or I don't
know particularly well and I'm uncertain, that's probably a no
for me. But that doesn't mean, like again, I'm just
giving you my gut. But he hasn't shown up for
practice yet. Yukon's practice is at two, which is an
hour and a half from now on the east coast.
So we're at nine point thirty here, So eleven o'clock
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here is two o'clock there. So I mean he may
be pulling up in his uh kia here in the
next twenty thirty. Well, it's not like he has to
get the practice.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't know well enough. But the big fish pond
is that? Is that a factor here? Like again, he's
probably one of the most identifiable people in the state
of Connecticut when he's there, right, I mean, you go back,
went back to back titles fair Now you come to
La you can hide, you could work behind the scenes
because there's so much else going on.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I just mean, it's a cool opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh, I think it's it's I think listen, if he
takes the job, it's not a terrible decision. I wouldn't
be shocked. I'm sure he was fifty to fifty last night, right,
Like he's probably sitting I mean, I'm telling you, I've
done this three times. What you do is you sit
down with your wife and you ask poor Glass of Vino.
(27:39):
You sit there and you ask questions.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We did the pros and cons list before moving out
to California eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I did it on a yellow sheet of paper. Yeah, yeah,
I did it before I moved to Poorld School, before
I went to ESPN, before I came here old school,
Glass of Wine. Let's sit and talk about it for
two hours. Then you make a decision.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Your point about like people love to like stay where
they close to where they they don't want to move away.
I remember you have some statf you always cite. He's
ensconced in the northeast, like that's his.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Air Wagner, Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
There's probably some fear about leaving, right, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
If it's fear, it's uncertainty. Like generally if you take
a new job. This is the way I you know,
you and I have thought. The way I always think
is what are the uncertainties? What are the certainties? Okay,
I'm I'm you know. When I when I took the
previous job I had, I'd never lived out east. I
didn't know many people out east. It was national, not local.
(28:30):
Uh So I wanted to make sure there were some
certainties that I had going into it. So because there
was a lot of uncertainty, and that uncertainty is great
because you grow during those times. Discomfort's great for all
of us at times. So Dan, I think Dan's probably
asked himself two or three questions. Am I a pro coach?
(28:50):
Maybe I'm a great college coach? Am I a pro coach?
I'm not sure. You're not sure until you do something.
He doesn't know. Mahomes didn't know it was going to
be this. You don't know until you do it right.
So he doesn't know what he does know he's the
best college coach. It's hard to argue yourself out of
dominance and a great job. Let's say they paid the same,
(29:15):
you would never take it. No, So a lot of
this to me is just money. If it paid the
exact same, why would I leave certainty, guarantees and happiness
for Hey, this thing could be a disaster. It's fear.
Will you have to reward me for that? So to me,
(29:35):
it really comes to Lakers job, unknown, different coast limitations,
with draft capital, aging stars, it pays twise as much.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, I mean, there's a bunch of things he can
control if he comes out, he can control practices, work
ethic of the team. Like, I'm not saying he's gonna
be like a hardcore, yelling screamer.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
He's gonna have to dial it back. Maybe he wants
to change a little as a person, get into his
next phase. Column.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Remember, Coach K had a a lot of opportunities to
jump to the NBA. He kept saying no, kept saying,
notice that I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
See you know what he did? You know what he did.
Coach K is like, I'll coach the Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Stack deck.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So if I was Dan Hurley, I'd call my agent
and say, hey, after Steve Kerr's done doing this, can
I coach the Olympic team? So I can stay at
Yukon but get some NBA feel Coach K's smart. Coach
K is like, I'm not gonna take the NBA job,
but I want to coach NBA guys. Mark Fewitt Gonzaga
(30:30):
does that. I'm gonna keep making four or five million
at Gonzaga whatever, but I want to coach NBA guys.
Jim Beheim did this. He was offered NBA jobs. I
was told Beheim's like, now, I like I like all
the guarantees and the dominance of college, but I gotta
I gotta play NBA every four years. I can see
Dan Hurley saying, hey, let's let's contact USA Basketball and
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Kurrs done. I wouldn't mind coaching the Olympics a couple
of times.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But the one big difference is coach k and Beheim
for many, many years decades did not have to deal
with this nil transfer portal try which now is justair.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, no, that's a listen. If it paid the same,
you'd stay at Yukon. If the NBA had the transfer portal,
you know, it'd be a different ballgame. You'd stay at Utah.
I mean, there's a huge advantage. The one big advantage
to the NBA is no athletic director, no NCAA, no nil,
no transfer portal. It is harder today to coach college sports.
(31:28):
The rewards are better financially, but it's harder. The recruiting
is I mean, you're trying to recruit and retain your
own players all weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yukon players, I'm certain have been getting hit up by
their buddies at other schools.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Maybe some assistant coaches. How you doing? Are you monitoring
the Hurley stuff. Yeah, any interest in coming here?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You talk to a college basketball coach this weekend. He
goes the transfer portal. I can't contact the players. I
have to contact their handler, a glorified AAU coach half
the time. So these college coaches can't even call recruits
in the transfer portal. They have to get a hold
of a handler.
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Speaker 1 (33:16):
Welcome back. We are waiting word on the Laker Job
with Dan Hurley. I just went over to my phone
and I was perusing a couple of NBA writers and
it is interesting a lot of the feedback you're hearing
that is within NBA circles. The Laker job is not
considered as good a job as people think. For years
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and years, people took the NIXT job and it was
a bad gig because they didn't have the right president
and the right infrastructure or the right star. Now, the
Knicks is a good job. They've got those components in place.
The Lakers don't have a coach. Lebron's going to be
forty Clutch sports runs Lebron and Ad their business. You
gotta deal with that. It's a lot. It's and again,
(34:01):
I'll say it. In the West, everybody's got a rising
young star Minnesota, Denver, Dallas, Sacramento, and even the older
stars in the West, like Steph Curry feels like he's
got more left in the tank than Lebron James. So
and again, Ad was healthy all last year. You think
you're gonna get that again. It's a little like Tua.
Like Tua was healthy last year, you're gonna bet he's
(34:24):
gonna do it again, and again you're gonna sign him
to a contract. So I thought Ad was spectacular last year,
but it felt like a little bit of an outlier
over the last six years in his career. Here. It's
something that's funny as I watched this series. So people
get mad at stuff they fear. You watch it with
people's opinions on politics. When you fear something, it makes
(34:47):
you angry because it's unknown, there's uncertainty, and people don't
like that. But Luka Dantage it will take no heat
when the Mavericks lose these finals. He's unquestionably the best
player and has very little shot to win it with
this roster. The big difference Lebron when he lost in
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the finals, got crushed for it. Luca won't be and
that's the difference. Lebron has been covered differently for a
lot of reasons. Number one is he's always been a
threat to Michael Jordan's legacy. Number two, the decision got
people all worked up. I don't get it, but you know,
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forty percent of Americans never leave the zip code they
were born in. Mobility turns people off, I guess, so
that ticks some people off. But if this was Lebron,
you know what you'd be saying, right, well, yeah, sure
he's hurt. Play through it, Michael did. We'd be blaming
you know, his leadership. Oh he's too bald, dominant, couldn't
(35:53):
close more turnovers than field goals made in the second half.
That never happened to Jordan. If Lebron was getting abused
on the defensive end, which never happened in his career,
but it's happening to Luca, Lebron would be crushed for that.
The Celtics are targeting Luca and it's effective. He looks tired.
(36:15):
He's not in the greatest shape. We've always said that
Lebron was in great shape in his prime, a great defender,
never got targeted or worked by anybody. But Lebron gets
beat in the finals because he doesn't have the components
crushed Luca. Well, Kyrie didn't show up. It's funny how
we treat people. Yes, Luca is overmatched in the finals.
(36:39):
Lebron against the Warriors when he was down to Matthew
Della Vadoba was overmatched Lebron in his first finals against him,
Duncan and the Spurs overmatched. People still pinted on Lebron.
Here's Jason Kidd after It's.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
Not, you know, all on him as a team. We
went as a team and we lose as a team,
and so he put us in a position. He was
really good tonight and unfortunately we just can you get
over the hump and right now we've got to find
someone to join Luca and Kai in that scoring category.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
The other thing about this finals that's pretty interesting, and
this is not a criticism of Jason Tatum. It's a
reality that I've been preaching. He's not a top five
player in the league, but I would love to have
him on my team. But Tatum is a much more fluid,
esthetically pleasing, natural offensive player than Jalen Brown. But Jalen
(37:34):
Brown is the alpha. Jalen Brown's more aggressive, and to
be honest with you, he's more consistent. The real truth
with the Celtics is the general manager Brad Stevens saw
this is everybody camps out and defends Jason Tatum. All
(37:55):
the fanboys defend him. Brad Stevens told you the truth.
Brought in two scorers, one really good scorer in Porzengis
and then another better than Marcus Smart scoring guard Drew Holliday.
You wouldn't do that if you had Michael or Kobe,
you wouldn't need to do it. You'd get other players
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that did other things. But they brought in two scores.
So right now, Jason Tatum is currently the third leading
score for the Celtics in the Finals. He's almost fourth.
So it feels like he plays off his teammates often
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more than his teammates playoff of him. He doesn't really
have a classic go to finishing move, where Michael had
three or four. Kobe had a couple, Kareem had the one.
But this is not a knock on him, it's a reality.
Is that Brad Stevens really told you what he thought
about Tatum the player. He's excellent. They're going to max
(39:01):
contract him. I mean, far less talented players get Max
than Jason Tatum, but that Brown is more alpha and
dependable in terms of production both ends. Tatum's more talented,
but can be a little more flighty. And so Brad
Stevens to solve that little riddle brought in a big
(39:22):
score in porzingis if he can just stay healthy enough.
And Drew Holliday, who has knights like last night where
you're wondering if he's the best player on the floor.
But the general manager when the Chiefs let go of
Tyreek Hill, Brett Veach was telling you, between Andy Mahomes
and Kelsey, Tyreek was the fourth most valuable player and
(39:45):
they've went back to back Super Bowl since he left.
They were right. But the Chiefs by letting Tyreek go,
we're telling you this is an Andy Reid Mahomes Kelsey offense.
It's not a Tyreek offense. And they were right. And
Brad Stevens told you there are going to be some
limitations to what Tatum can do against elite teams in
big spots. We think he's an a player, but he's
(40:08):
not really your alpha closer. Brad Stevens coached him now,
he gms him and he fit in offensive pieces around him.
So it's not a criticism. This is not an anti
Jason Tatum. I would love to have him on my team,
but it does feel like he more often feeds off
his players than they feed off him. Last night, lastic example,
(40:30):
you needed a closing shot when Dallas drew closer Jalen
Brown's like, get me, the ball goes to the basket,
closes the game out. That's what you're Duncan Kobe MJ.
Bird that that's what your closer does. But he doesn't
consistently feel like he wants it or maybe psychologically needs
that validation. But Boston's a really good team. But I
(40:51):
think it's pretty clear what Brad Stevens did in the
off season it was not a knock on Tatum. It
was a hey, this is what we are, this is
what we need. Let's go get it. It's on the
market and it's worked perfectly. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top
of Next Hour, Nick Nurse, Sixers coach. He's watching these Celtics.
He faced these Celtics all year. He knows how good
(41:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, it is a Monday. We could have breaking
new on Dan Hurley, Yukon coach and the Lakers gig.
I got a feeling. I know what's gonna happen. We're
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day, jamac A lot of things going on.
(00:47):
What's not going on is the Mavericks offense very much
a one man team. Listen, it happens sometimes in these
big events you don't get a great matchup, a big fight,
a super Bowl. This looks lobsided? Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And you call Kyrie Irving for as much you know
as we kissed his butt the last two weeks, he's
been atrocious to the final.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
He can't do anything against anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I do not believe this is a difficult finals
to explain. Number One, that's why I picked the Celtics
in six. They've got a much deeper roster, especially offensively.
They just got more guys that could score twenty two points. Secondly,
Kyrie is projecting that it doesn't bother him. Clearly it does.
The fans in Boston are in his head. He's played
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like garbage the first two games. Another thing is the
Celtics are hunting Luca. This is one of the things
we talked about before the series. Make Luca work on
the defensive end. He will eventually wear down. I didn't
think he'd wear down by Game two, but he looks tired,
fatigued and beat up, and porzingis when he's healthy. I'm sorry,
(01:58):
He's just different. He matters a lot. This has become
a one man team Luca against a much deeper roster.
It reminds me of some of those Lebron James finals
where he was overmatched. The difference is Luca is not
getting blamed. Lebron always took all the heat. The Celtics
right now have five different players, five averaging sixteen or more.
(02:22):
Dallas has won. You could walk into a YMCA and say,
see the talent disparity here. The Celtics, Biggs, Horford, Porzingis
are just much more experienced and more skilled than the
Mavericks Bigs. Sometimes in sports you just get bad matchups,
even in a national championship. We've seen it in college football.
(02:44):
A lot Denver Boston what everybody thought would happen didn't
happen because the Nuggets blew a twenty point lead in
Game seven. That would be a great finals. I mean,
to sum it up, Luca had a bad second half yesterday,
just a bad second half, more turnovers than field goals made.
And Dallas circle the drain. Jason Tatum's been off for
(03:07):
two straight games in the finals and they've rolled in both.
It's just different rosters. Boston got a lot more dudes. Now,
the West has been deeper than the East for the
last two decades or more, but that doesn't mean the
best team can't come out of the East. I mean,
Porzingis didn't play at all in those playoffs in the East,
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and they rolled over everybody. And I think if he
was missing, this would be a much more competitive series.
But it should be noted as much Boston dominated the
Eastern Conference regular season and playoffs. They also had a
record of twenty five and seven in the regular season
against the West, so they're the best team best point differential.
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We said this last week, the NBA would prefer you
not be able to do what the Celtics did, which
is add two excellent players to already two three really
good players. It feels lobsided. It feels like a mismatch.
So if you go back and look at the playoffs,
you've seen sweeps, gentlemen sweeps and mismatches, and the Celtics
(04:10):
have been involved in most of them. It's got a
very rock paper scissors feel to it, varsity versus JV.
And I think Luca summed up the loss after.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's what the number one team in the NBA, with
the number one record, they have a lot of great players. Pratically,
anybody can get off. So honestly, I think we didn't
do a bad job defending today. We took away some trees.
We can test some more trees. But like I say,
you know, I had too many turnovers and we missed
(04:42):
a lot of fritters, so I think that costs to Ciya.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I said this last week. The Celtics are too good
and too deep not to win at least one finals.
They're a little too odd and historically weird to be
a dynasty. And by the end of next year, Derek White,
they won't be able to afford him. I imagine, you know,
poor Zingis's health, Drew Holliday's getting older. But for this year,
(05:09):
this looks like easily the best team. And next year,
my guess is they win again in the East and
meet the Denver Nuggets again. But right now, you've got
yourself a mismatch the Bigs for Boston. More skilled, older
defensive wings, Boston's got more offensive fluidity, Boston's better. It's
(05:29):
not close. So a big story over the weekend. Caitlin Clark,
who is not one of the top twelve to fifteen
WNBA players, did not make the Olympic team. I hear
that all the time, But Christian Latner wasn't one of
the top one hundred players in the NBA and he
made an Olympic team. Jalen Brown, for the record, is
(05:52):
not on this Olympic team. He's one of the top
fifteen players. He's gonna win finals, MVP potentially. Diana Tarassi
is not one of the fifteen best players in the
women's game. She's making the team. Olympic basketball team men's
and women's has always been subjective and very political. At
(06:13):
the end of the roster, Isaiah Thomas didn't make it.
Why Michael Jordan didn't like him? To me, it feels
like an opportunity wasted when Connor McGregor came into the UFC.
There were fighters over the last five six years who
passed up immediate title fights to fight Connor McGregor. Why, eyeballs, Yeah,
(06:37):
you don't think when Tiger Woods had that ten twelve
year historic run, guys didn't fight to be in his
foursome eyeballs. The WNBA finals had seven hundred thousand viewers.
The draft that included Caitlin Clark had three times as many.
I would make the argument, like a Tiger Woods or
a Connor McGregor in their prime, she'll make other people
(07:00):
money beyond herself. Rising tide lifts all boats. Instead of
getting seven million viewers, you'll get fourteen to eighteen with
Caitlin Clark, maybe more. The fifth, sixth, seventh, eight ninth,
best player on the women's Olympic team would make six
or seven figures in endorsements. The women's basketball team does
(07:20):
not lose in the Olympics. I think they've won seven
straight Golds. You probably didn't know that because you didn't watch,
and you would life. Whether it's a relationship, business, sports,
life gives you so few big waves when they do.
Grab your surfboard, Bryce Harper, boxing's never had another Muhammad Ali,
(07:45):
Tiger Woods, Connor McGregor, Caitlyn Clark. I'm hearing all this rigidity.
I know women's basketball. I've covered the women's Olympics. Nobody
knows it like me. Oh god, you sound like an
old baseball writer. Stop being precious, Stop being rigid, Stop
(08:10):
telling us how much you know. Here's what I know.
WNBA now is flying chartered flights. She would triple the
TV ratings. Again, life doesn't give you. Sports doesn't give you.
Business doesn't give you a lot of these kind of waves.
Grab the surfboard. She's here for you. By the way,
(08:31):
the NBA would die to have a domestic star nearly
as popular as Caitlin Clark. Oh wait, they do, Anthony Edwards.
They put him on the team. Anthony Edwards today is
not as good as Jalen Brown. I think he could
be by the end of next year, and I think
after the trade deadline. I've said this, he and Wemby
(08:53):
could be surging as faces of the league. But Aunt
Edwards isn't as good as Jalen Brown. Now. Aunt is unred,
He's up and down, he's hot and cold. Jalen Brown's
great every night. They found a spot for him on
the team. Women's basketball feels like it's suffering from spite
or historically low self esteem, where they want to prove
(09:17):
that they know more than you do. Here's what I know.
Caitlin Clark would make all the other women on the
Olympic team money. She'd make them more famous, She'd give
them opportunities. They'd become potentially more household names. It's not
just about Caitlin Clark. In fact, I'd argue it's very
(09:39):
little about Caitlin Clark. It's an opportunity wasted. You go
ahead and lecturous about how you know the game, and
you've covered the Olympics. Good for you. But some stuff
is business. One oh one. This is a layup and
you blew it. It's not a three sixty, it's not
a no look. It's not beating the Celtics. This was
(10:03):
a layup and you bricked it all right, j Mac.
We got a lot of stuff going on. Taylor Clark,
by the way, has been amazing. Here's she's so good.
Here's what she said to the media.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Honestly, no disappointment, Like I think it just gives you something,
something to work for. You know, that's a dream. You know,
hopefully one day I can be there. And I think
it's just a little more motivation. You remember that, and
you know hopefully in four years, when four years comes
back around, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I can be there again. There you go. Every time
she talks, she says the right thing. It reminds me
a lot of Taylor Swift, you know, like, like you
do realize this won't last forever. Taylor Swift is not
going to have seven of her other tours as big
as the last one. Even for rock stars, Muhammad Ali
had probably five big fights, a lot of them nobody watched, right, Like,
(10:57):
this is a moment in time time you seese it.
In four years she'll be a good WNBA player, she'll
be an all star, but it won't feel like this. Yeah,
this was your moment. This was the wave, grab the surfboard.
Get on it. It's the biggest wave coming for the
next two to three four years.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's funny Drew Holliday, who's starring in the NBA Finals
right now.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He's not one of the twelve best players.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
In the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He's on the Olympic team because a fit and roll.
And you're telling me Caitlin Clark the best three point shooter.
I know, not percentage wise, but she's the best three
point shooter in women's basketball. She's dropping bombs in thirty
telling me there's no rule. It's not a real reach
in a three ball era. It's not a reach for
either the men's or the women's Olympic team to say, listen,
(11:44):
this player's not quite there yet, but we may get
down to somebody in the Olympics. They can get us
back with three shots, nine points and forty seconds. That
it's not like you're asking to put like a limited
defensive player or just a big who doesn't run the floor.
Talking about an elite ballhandler, passer and shooter. In a
ball handler, passer shooter era, you can find a spot
(12:06):
on the bench for And I love the point where, well,
what if she doesn't play her fans are going to
be outraged.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Caitlin Clark's going to get on the court. She's too
good of a competitor. Like worry about that down the world. Yeah,
that's one of those I pay way too much in taxes.
I paid a million dollars in taxes. Probably not the
worst problem in the world. We'll give you an update
on Dan Hurley. My hunch he'll stay at Yukon. That
is my hunch. We'll see Colin Wright Colin Wrong forty
(12:32):
five minutes from now.
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Speaker 1 (12:42):
So Dan Hurley is the coach of Yukon for now.
My gut feeling is he would take the Yukon job.
I bumped into a couple of different people over the
weekend and talk to somebody this morning that Hurley on
Friday night Saturday night was back in the East Coast
(13:04):
and was asking people he wasn't quite sure what to do.
My takeaway, if you know it's the job, you decide
that on the flight back. You kind of know in
your gut if it's the job, that doesn't mean he
wouldn't take it. It's double the three times the money.
But you know one of the things I saw in
the article. He told ESPN, Well, it's a very compelling case.
(13:27):
They made a very compelling case for the job. What
is it. Lebron's forty AD is brittle and they don't
have two of their four first round picks in the
next four years. They don't have two to four. You
could be the next coach K staying in college basketball.
And for the record, Coach K turned down a monster
(13:48):
deal with the Lakers years ago, and he was probably
smart to do it. In the last ten years, the
Lakers have won fifty or more games one time. That's
with Kobe and Lebron and a D. The West is deep,
it's young, it's getting better. The Lakers is not a
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great job. Don't confuse that with it's a big brand.
Timing is everything. It doesn't feel like the timing is great.
They don't have a ton of draft capital. You've got
to deal with the Lebron age issue. AD was completely
healthy last year. You trust he'll do that again. There
is a sea of money for the talented people in
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this country. Men and women take the right job, not
just the paycheck. After about three paychecks, that'll get old fast.
If you're banging your head against the wall needing Austin
Reeves to be your number two because Lebron took another
night off. It is a limited roster. It is a
massive brand. I wouldn't take it. There's going to be
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six to seven openings next year, in the year after,
could be all over the league. Multiple East Coast jobs,
East Coast wife, East coast guy. My my feeling is
if I was Dan Hurley, this isn't a job for him.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well, let me just say, I hope you're wrong. I
think Hurley taking it would be a gold mine. You
love that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
We're in the interesting business. I don't think it gets more.
It's more interesting than Dan Hurley giving the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, but if you're winning forty games? How interesting?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Well, how do you know they're gonna win forty games?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You don't know that, Denver, Minnesota? OKAC.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well, we'll see how they reshaped the roster this summer,
although hopefully it involves keeping Austin Reeves. Let's get started
with the Lakers coaching sarch Colin Uh. It may come
to a closuer today, maybe in the next couple hours.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
However, interesting name that popped up over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
According to Mark Stein, who you previously work with, former
Villanova head coach Jay Wright could be a stealth candidate
they for the Lakers head coaching position, and he expects
more information to surface whether Hurley lands the.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Job or not now.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Jay Wright left Villanova a couple of years ago. Obviously
an amazing basketball coach. He is a little older than
Hurley's sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Two, also lived in Vegas for several years. He knows
the West Coast well. I covered him when he was
at UNLV, so he knows the West Coast. He's recruited
California extensively, So this to me is an interesting fit.
Hurley feels very East coast. Jay feels East coast, but
a little more amenable to a West Coast swing. I
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don't think Jay's gonna take it either. I text Jay.
Jay loves what he's doing with the broadcasting. He's fully
engaged with it. He's very good at it. So again,
sometimes no is a really powerful word. And if you're
Jay Wright, for the next five years and Dan Hurley
for the next ten. Say no all the time until
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you find a better job with realistic expectations, closer to
family and home, with draft capital to build it the
way you did in college draft capital.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Really you think a sixty two year old Jay Wright
cares about draft capital.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think he's good at building cultures and building players.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yes, well he was at Villanova at this age. Do
you think he wants to build something like it's like Popovich?
You know, he's way up there in age and now
you got web.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Thing you witch is like mid seventies, like sixty Do you.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Think Jay Wright wants to be like on the sideline
barking at like sixty eight years old? How many We
don't see a lot of NBA coaches that age.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Anymore, Colin, I don't think sixty is I'm sixty.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
No, I said sixty eight in a few years, you know,
not a few years.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If you're a Laker coach for eight years, that means
you would have had a championship or they wouldn't have
retained you. Eight years is a long time in NBA
coaching circle. You take a job at sixty one, sixty two,
and you last as sixty eight sixty nine. They don't
keep you in LA unless you got rings or of
course close to it. Yeah, yeah, so I so you
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think Jay Wright? I think I Again, I'm saying if
if I was the agent of Dan Hurley or Jay Wright,
I'd say pass for now. I don't think this is
a great job. It's old Lebron clutch sports. On a
lot of nights, Austin Reeves has to be your two.
Are you watching the Celtics? Wait a minute, well, Al
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Horford's you're six. You're not competing against Denver when Michael
Porter's your.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Four, unless unless Genie Buss and Polinka said, hey, guys,
we've got to convince Hurley that this is not a
clutch sports organization.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Lebron's got one or two years left.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
We need to transition to our next phase, the post
clutch phase, or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Lebron's gonna sign a three year deal the minute this
coaching hire happened.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
It'll be like a one plus one or two plus one.
He's come on, you really think Lebron's was he thirty nine?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You think he's here until forty two?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah? I do. I think he likes the money. I
think he likes the action. Yeah, I think I think
he will.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I wonder if we're seeing a splint splinter inside the Lakers,
like Genie Buss, Hey, you guys had a good run, Lebron,
you got two years left. It does feel like it's
coming to the It's like the Warriors. Remember they should
have broke things up last year, Now they end up.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
The answer is almost OHA's be proactive, not react. The
Lakers feel like they're reacting to a lot of things.
They're not proactive. They're reacting to a lot of things.
I think they're going to sign a coach the minute
they do. Lebron signs a big contract again. This this
this job is fraught with land mines. It's a brand
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right now. Not like it's not like college sports, where
let's say you're Alabama football pre Nick Saban or Texas
football pre Sark, where you're beaten up. You could turn
it over in two years. You can turn the whole
roster over with a transfer portal in two seasons. You
can't do that in the NBA. You gotta have matching sound.
There's all sorts of issues and obstacles and roadblocks to
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making deals it's fun. You're yes, it's fun unless you're
a coach getting run out and want to turn it over.
This is not close to a championship roster, now, Camember
Austin Reeves on many nights because ad Or Lebron Sith
is your second best player. Come on, he does not
start for the Celtics. I'm not sure he starts for Denver,
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don't I don't know if he starts for OKC.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh well, he starts for He's better than KCP. Stop it,
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
He can run some point. You are what did you
become an Austin Reeves hater? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm just he's fun and talented. All right, Let's move
on to Dak Prescott. You know, listen, Dek Prescott seemingly
in the news every day because he's waiting for his
big contract. Dak is entering the final year of his deal.
Despite the lack of job security, He's ready to roll
the dice.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is there.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Just you should always have to be honest. So maybe
guys who normally wouldn't fill a phill it so so
I don't mind it. I've been in this position before.
MC gambling man will gamble on myself and my guys,
so not actually guys with that, not that way. Just
a hog.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, good for him. I always like, I always think
he's great at the microphone betting on himself. Now he's funny.
He's good, He's very very good. He there are so
many things about him that yell scream franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh oh, I see looking at the screen.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
There's no hurry news is there? I don't have my
stuff open anyways.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Final story, Bronco has moved on from Russell Wilson this offseason.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Their new quarterback room features Bo Nicks, who they drafted,
and former Jet Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Here's a report colin.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Zach Wilson is crushing in camp and he is in
the mix for the week one starting job.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's June. What do you mean week one, week one
of preseason?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Listen man, week one starting gig against Seattle, that'll be
week one of the season.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You excited about Zach Wilson to be a backup? Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
What does that say about Bo Nicks? H'm Zack Wilson
beats him out.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I wouldn't believe any of this nonsense, Okay, but I
do think this is a good place for him. Okay,
here's you done. Yeah yeah, J McK of the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
Linine News.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The Yucon's practice is now scheduled for two o'clock this afternoon.
Dan Hurley is not on campus yet, sources tell Fox
Sports John Fanta, who is a college basketball reporter for Fox.
So Hurley's not on campus yet. Practice is scheduled for
two o'clock this afternoon. Very interesting. I'm just saying, if
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I was Hurley, I'd stay out east. But money talks.
I was told it's weird who you bump into in
Los Angeles. I was told they offered him the job.
He was very excited. One of his kids was here,
one or two. They were very excited. Before there was
a lot of excitement. But you know, wife is from
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the East Coast, lots of family ties to the East Coast.
For you, you just move you're young. But for a lot
of people, this is it's not like Yukon. Yukon right
now is the best college basketball program in America, not
in not Kansas, not Syracuse. And they own the East Coast,
They own a region that still loves the sport.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's great, wonderful. Life is about a call to adventure.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And if Dan Hurley gets a chance to coach the Lakers,
the most glamorous franchise in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Boy, I think you got to jump at that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh look, I'm coaching the greatest player in the history
of the sport, Lebroni's I'm my team.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That is amazing. That would have been great eight years ago.
Here are the pros and cons. So let's look at
the pros and cons for Dan Hurley. The pros, you
double your salary or more. That's that's good. Nice, No
more nil, no more transfer portal wears a lot of
coaches out. It's a higher quality of basketball. You're just
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dealing with the world's best players. And listen, he's an
ascending coach. It's the next step in your career. You've
obviously aced. You know Wagner, Rhode Island in Yukon. This
guy's taken several steps. The cons, I don't care what
you make, job security, good luck. The Lebron factor, the
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clutch sports factor. He's run every team he's been on.
The offense has to run through Lebron. And if you
watch Dan Hurley's offense. Lebron and Dan Hurley's offense aren't ideal.
Number three. It's an aging roster. You're two best players.
One's old, one's brittle. Number four. The Western Conference, everybody's
got a rising star except you, Denver, Minnesota, Dallas, Sacramento,
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everybody's got a rising star. Accents, let me do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The Lakers are one of two teams that had two
All NBA players. To all NBA players, one's gonna be forty,
So he was still playing in a top Is he
twenty five, eight and seven or some ridiculous status year.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Lebron was tremendous. Yeah, I can't believe you're acting like this. Colm,
I'm just a little disappointed.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean, Hurley is an awesome coach. Do you know
what he would mean to the Lakers? Maybe they need
some tough love? Is there Darvinham who you know we
hear stuff about. He just would be unprepared and carrying.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It from a corporation standpoint. I'm taking it from Dan
Hurley's standpoint. I know Dan. I like Dan, Dan's agent.
I'm thinking of it like Dan would think of it.
You're thinking of it like, oh, it'd be good for
the city. Why do I care. I've never lived here.
If I'm Dan Hurley, I'd be good for the Lakers.
What do I care? I didn't grow up with the Lakers.
That all sounds good to a Laker fan, but he
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doesn't have any attachment to that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So you know, these coaches, We've talked to a lot
of them, NFL coaches. They feel like they can fix
any quarterback.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They just I can solve.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I know the problem for this guy. Sean Payton looked
a Russell Wilson said, you had a couple of venues.
I got this.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
These coaches have massive egos that they can fix.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And I will tell you this Saturday night, I had
a friend in the same circle as Dan Hurley, and
Dan was unsure. He was asking people. He was unsure,
he just didn't know. Usually, if I'm doing that, I
tend to be somebody that I go with my gut.
I do the homework, then I let it rip right
like I'm gonna go with my gut. If I'm asking
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people who aren't even associated with me, or I don't
know particularly well and I'm uncertain, that's probably a no
for me. But that doesn't mean, like again, I'm just
giving you my gut. But he hasn't shown up for
practice yet. Yukon's practice is at two, which is an
hour and a half from now on the east coast.
So we're at nine point thirty here, So eleven o'clock
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here is two o'clock there. So I mean he may
be pulling up in his uh kia here in the
next twenty thirty. Well, it's not like he has to
get the practice.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't know well enough. But the big fish pond
is that? Is that a factor here? Like again, he's
probably one of the most identifiable people in the state
of Connecticut when he's there, right, I mean, you go back,
went back to back titles fair Now you come to
La you can hide, you could work behind the scenes
because there's so much else going on.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I just mean, it's a cool opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh, I think it's it's I think listen, if he
takes the job, it's not a terrible decision. I wouldn't
be shocked. I'm sure he was fifty to fifty last night, right,
Like he's probably sitting I mean, I'm telling you, I've
done this three times. What you do is you sit
down with your wife and you ask poor Glass of Vino.
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You sit there and you ask questions.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
We did the pros and cons list before moving out
to California eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I did it on a yellow sheet of paper. Yeah, yeah,
I did it before I moved to Poorld School, before
I went to ESPN, before I came here old school,
Glass of Wine. Let's sit and talk about it for
two hours. Then you make a decision.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Your point about like people love to like stay where
they close to where they they don't want to move away.
I remember you have some statf you always cite. He's
ensconced in the northeast, like that's his.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Air Wagner, Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
There's probably some fear about leaving, right, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
If it's fear, it's uncertainty. Like generally if you take
a new job. This is the way I you know,
you and I have thought. The way I always think
is what are the uncertainties? What are the certainties? Okay,
I'm I'm you know. When I when I took the
previous job I had, I'd never lived out east. I
didn't know many people out east. It was national, not local.
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Uh So I wanted to make sure there were some
certainties that I had going into it. So because there
was a lot of uncertainty, and that uncertainty is great
because you grow during those times. Discomfort's great for all
of us at times. So Dan, I think Dan's probably
asked himself two or three questions. Am I a pro coach?
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Maybe I'm a great college coach? Am I a pro coach?
I'm not sure. You're not sure until you do something.
He doesn't know. Mahomes didn't know it was going to
be this. You don't know until you do it right.
So he doesn't know what he does know he's the
best college coach. It's hard to argue yourself out of
dominance and a great job. Let's say they paid the same,
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you would never take it. No, So a lot of
this to me is just money. If it paid the
exact same, why would I leave certainty, guarantees and happiness
for Hey, this thing could be a disaster. It's fear.
Will you have to reward me for that? So to me,
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it really comes to Lakers job, unknown, different coast limitations,
with draft capital, aging stars, it pays twise as much.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, I mean, there's a bunch of things he can
control if he comes out, he can control practices, work
ethic of the team. Like, I'm not saying he's gonna
be like a hardcore, yelling screamer.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
He's gonna have to dial it back. Maybe he wants
to change a little as a person, get into his
next phase. Column.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Remember, Coach K had a a lot of opportunities to
jump to the NBA. He kept saying no, kept saying,
notice that I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
See you know what he did? You know what he did.
Coach K is like, I'll coach the Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Stack deck.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So if I was Dan Hurley, I'd call my agent
and say, hey, after Steve Kerr's done doing this, can
I coach the Olympic team? So I can stay at
Yukon but get some NBA feel Coach K's smart. Coach
K is like, I'm not gonna take the NBA job,
but I want to coach NBA guys. Mark Fewitt Gonzaga
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does that. I'm gonna keep making four or five million
at Gonzaga whatever, but I want to coach NBA guys.
Jim Beheim did this. He was offered NBA jobs. I
was told Beheim's like, now, I like I like all
the guarantees and the dominance of college, but I gotta
I gotta play NBA every four years. I can see
Dan Hurley saying, hey, let's let's contact USA Basketball and
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Kurrs done. I wouldn't mind coaching the Olympics a couple
of times.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But the one big difference is coach k and Beheim
for many, many years decades did not have to deal
with this nil transfer portal try which now is justair.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, no, that's a listen. If it paid the same,
you'd stay at Yukon. If the NBA had the transfer portal,
you know, it'd be a different ballgame. You'd stay at Utah.
I mean, there's a huge advantage. The one big advantage
to the NBA is no athletic director, no NCAA, no nil,
no transfer portal. It is harder today to coach college sports.
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The rewards are better financially, but it's harder. The recruiting
is I mean, you're trying to recruit and retain your
own players all weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yukon players, I'm certain have been getting hit up by
their buddies at other schools.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Maybe some assistant coaches. How you doing? Are you monitoring
the Hurley stuff. Yeah, any interest in coming here?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You talk to a college basketball coach this weekend. He
goes the transfer portal. I can't contact the players. I
have to contact their handler, a glorified AAU coach half
the time. So these college coaches can't even call recruits
in the transfer portal. They have to get a hold
of a handler.
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Speaker 1 (33:16):
Welcome back. We are waiting word on the Laker Job
with Dan Hurley. I just went over to my phone
and I was perusing a couple of NBA writers and
it is interesting a lot of the feedback you're hearing
that is within NBA circles. The Laker job is not
considered as good a job as people think. For years
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and years, people took the NIXT job and it was
a bad gig because they didn't have the right president
and the right infrastructure or the right star. Now, the
Knicks is a good job. They've got those components in place.
The Lakers don't have a coach. Lebron's going to be
forty Clutch sports runs Lebron and Ad their business. You
gotta deal with that. It's a lot. It's and again,
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I'll say it. In the West, everybody's got a rising
young star Minnesota, Denver, Dallas, Sacramento, and even the older
stars in the West, like Steph Curry feels like he's
got more left in the tank than Lebron James. So
and again, Ad was healthy all last year. You think
you're gonna get that again. It's a little like Tua.
Like Tua was healthy last year, you're gonna bet he's
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gonna do it again, and again you're gonna sign him
to a contract. So I thought Ad was spectacular last year,
but it felt like a little bit of an outlier
over the last six years in his career. Here. It's
something that's funny as I watched this series. So people
get mad at stuff they fear. You watch it with
people's opinions on politics. When you fear something, it makes
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you angry because it's unknown, there's uncertainty, and people don't
like that. But Luka Dantage it will take no heat
when the Mavericks lose these finals. He's unquestionably the best
player and has very little shot to win it with
this roster. The big difference Lebron when he lost in
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the finals, got crushed for it. Luca won't be and
that's the difference. Lebron has been covered differently for a
lot of reasons. Number one is he's always been a
threat to Michael Jordan's legacy. Number two, the decision got
people all worked up. I don't get it, but you know,
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forty percent of Americans never leave the zip code they
were born in. Mobility turns people off, I guess, so
that ticks some people off. But if this was Lebron,
you know what you'd be saying, right, well, yeah, sure
he's hurt. Play through it, Michael did. We'd be blaming
you know, his leadership. Oh he's too bald, dominant, couldn't
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close more turnovers than field goals made in the second half.
That never happened to Jordan. If Lebron was getting abused
on the defensive end, which never happened in his career,
but it's happening to Luca, Lebron would be crushed for that.
The Celtics are targeting Luca and it's effective. He looks tired.
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He's not in the greatest shape. We've always said that
Lebron was in great shape in his prime, a great defender,
never got targeted or worked by anybody. But Lebron gets
beat in the finals because he doesn't have the components
crushed Luca. Well, Kyrie didn't show up. It's funny how
we treat people. Yes, Luca is overmatched in the finals.
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Lebron against the Warriors when he was down to Matthew
Della Vadoba was overmatched Lebron in his first finals against him,
Duncan and the Spurs overmatched. People still pinted on Lebron.
Here's Jason Kidd after It's.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
Not, you know, all on him as a team. We
went as a team and we lose as a team,
and so he put us in a position. He was
really good tonight and unfortunately we just can you get
over the hump and right now we've got to find
someone to join Luca and Kai in that scoring category.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
The other thing about this finals that's pretty interesting, and
this is not a criticism of Jason Tatum. It's a
reality that I've been preaching. He's not a top five
player in the league, but I would love to have
him on my team. But Tatum is a much more fluid,
esthetically pleasing, natural offensive player than Jalen Brown. But Jalen
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Brown is the alpha. Jalen Brown's more aggressive, and to
be honest with you, he's more consistent. The real truth
with the Celtics is the general manager Brad Stevens saw
this is everybody camps out and defends Jason Tatum. All
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the fanboys defend him. Brad Stevens told you the truth.
Brought in two scorers, one really good scorer in Porzengis
and then another better than Marcus Smart scoring guard Drew Holliday.
You wouldn't do that if you had Michael or Kobe,
you wouldn't need to do it. You'd get other players
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that did other things. But they brought in two scores.
So right now, Jason Tatum is currently the third leading
score for the Celtics in the Finals. He's almost fourth.
So it feels like he plays off his teammates often
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more than his teammates playoff of him. He doesn't really
have a classic go to finishing move, where Michael had
three or four. Kobe had a couple, Kareem had the one.
But this is not a knock on him, it's a reality.
Is that Brad Stevens really told you what he thought
about Tatum the player. He's excellent. They're going to max
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contract him. I mean, far less talented players get Max
than Jason Tatum, but that Brown is more alpha and
dependable in terms of production both ends. Tatum's more talented,
but can be a little more flighty. And so Brad
Stevens to solve that little riddle brought in a big
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score in porzingis if he can just stay healthy enough.
And Drew Holliday, who has knights like last night where
you're wondering if he's the best player on the floor.
But the general manager when the Chiefs let go of
Tyreek Hill, Brett Veach was telling you, between Andy Mahomes
and Kelsey, Tyreek was the fourth most valuable player and
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they've went back to back Super Bowl since he left.
They were right. But the Chiefs by letting Tyreek go,
we're telling you this is an Andy Reid Mahomes Kelsey offense.
It's not a Tyreek offense. And they were right. And
Brad Stevens told you there are going to be some
limitations to what Tatum can do against elite teams in
big spots. We think he's an a player, but he's
(40:08):
not really your alpha closer. Brad Stevens coached him now,
he gms him and he fit in offensive pieces around him.
So it's not a criticism. This is not an anti
Jason Tatum. I would love to have him on my team,
but it does feel like he more often feeds off
his players than they feed off him. Last night, lastic example,
(40:30):
you needed a closing shot when Dallas drew closer Jalen
Brown's like, get me, the ball goes to the basket,
closes the game out. That's what you're Duncan Kobe MJ.
Bird that that's what your closer does. But he doesn't
consistently feel like he wants it or maybe psychologically needs
that validation. But Boston's a really good team. But I
(40:51):
think it's pretty clear what Brad Stevens did in the
off season it was not a knock on Tatum. It
was a hey, this is what we are, this is
what we need. Let's go get it. It's on the
market and it's worked perfectly. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top
of Next Hour, Nick Nurse, Sixers coach. He's watching these Celtics.
He faced these Celtics all year. He knows how good
(41:12):
they are. Dan Hurley, where's he going all next
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