June 13, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin criticizes Luka Doncic for his shortcomings as the Mavericks fall 0-3 to the Celtics in the NBA Finals
He credits Boston for their dominant run through the NBA playoffs
UConn head coach Dan Hurley joins the show to talk about his decision to stay with the Huskies and refuse the offer from the Lakers to become their next head coach
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Flue cross Country And you covered the NBA formally, Now,
the NFL is what you cover, but when you cover
the NBA, you find out it's a star driven league
and stars are defined. Right East May and June finally
right and has not been a good couple of days
for Luca, and we start with that. One of the
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things I love about Super Bowls, World Cups, NBA Finals.
There pressurized situations, okay, and in pressurized situations in sports
are in life, the truth comes out every dad's a
good little league dad when his kid's winning and hitting
home runs. But what about when the umpiring's terrible and
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he strikes out? The truth comes out. Add a little
pressure to life in sports. The truth comes out. And
the truth is when I compared Luca to Carmelo Anthony,
it sort of looks like it doesn't it a very
flawed star, right, better than Carmelo, but a very flawed star.
All the deficiencies for Luca are coming out in the finals.
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Number one, he never stops complaining to refs. It hurts
his team. He's on the floor complaining. There go the
Celtics down to the other end. Tohattan twice last night.
Another thing. He's been awful defensively in this series. Awful
in fact, there is data and video that illustrates he's
maybe the worst defensive player in the Finals in a decade.
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And like all great scores, when Fitt hits the Shan,
he becomes isoball guy and doesn't play well with others.
The man's only had fifteen assists last night. They're almost
getting doubled in this series in assists. So Luke is
an all time talent, but he's not a late bloomer.
He was an all time talent at fifteen years old.
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He has been lauded, he has been worshiped, and when
you're great at fifteen until now at twenty five, he's
already been a five time All NBA Guy First Team.
That's more than Steph. Is he now amenable to change?
Is he adaptable? Because to be a champion, Michael Jordan
figured this out, you got to look yourself in the mirror.
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I mean Michael Jordan looked himself in the mirror and said,
I can score sixty and not win titles or trust
my teammates. Jackson talked him into trusting his teammates. Michael
became a champion. Lebron James was physically elite his first
day in the league. He had to eventually the Spurs
wouldn't guard him in the finals from the perimeter. He
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had to learn to shoot a three and add layers
to his game. So it just wasn't about his physical superiority.
I mean, I'm watching Luca unravel last night, get flustered
and melt down. You can't do that against the Celtics.
Celtics are smart. Horford and Brown and Tatum and Drew Holiday.
They'll get into your head. This is a veteran team
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and they were toying with the younger Mavericks last night.
They were toying with them. And by the way, it's
completely fair. I don't care how good your regular season is.
I don't care how good your playoffs are. If you
melt down in the finals, it will stick with you
until you win a finals. Magic Johnson had an awful finals.
He was called tragic Johnson in nineteen eighty four. He
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had to eventually win for that to disapp Lebron James
terrified to have the basketball against Dallas ridiculed, mocked, laughed
at until he won the next year. And this is
gonna stick to Luca and it should fairly awful defensively,
been totally disengaged defensively, constantly melting down with the officials,
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not really engaging other teammates, swept by the Celtics. That's
gonna stick to him. I mean when you when you
got five fouls and you're trying to draw a charge
and you're a bad defensive player, like what are you doing?
This is gonna stick to Luca. It should stick to Luca.
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Pressurized situations and sports business, in life, unveil the truth.
By the way, Kyrie can score, but he wouldn't very
good defensively. Last night either, you are seeing a deep, mature,
smart Boston team toy with Dallas and their emotions. Here's
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Luca and Jason Kidd after.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
We couldn't play physical.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So no, I don't want to say nothing, but you know,
six following the NBA Finals, basically I'm like this, come on, man,
better than that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He is definitely got a bullseye on his chest, and
so he's got to be able to guard and understand
that we're there to protect him and help him if
he does get beat. But again, he's carrying the load
offensively and they are putting him in every pick and
roll and io and so he's got to be able
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to play the game where he can rest on offense
and let others, do you know, carry the load.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
The Celtics are picking on Luca. Their game plan was
clearly make him work on the defensive end. He'll unravel.
Force him to work on the defensive end. He will
eventually quit, He'll get frustrated, he'll complain to the refs
that Boston game plan. They figured it out. It is
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working perfectly, attack him, make him work. He'll turn into
isoldball guy, complain about fouls and unravel and that's what
you're seeing. So let's talk about the Celtics. They're actually
bad for the NBA's broadcasting partners. They've won ten straight games,
They're fifteen to two in the playoffs. The only time
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you see network executives really freak out is with sweeps
the hockey series for ESPN's to love, and the Celtics
are flying through the playoffs. You got to get to
six games to make money. Boston's bad for business, and
they're just too deep not to win a championship. But
I've said they're too historically strange to be a dynasty.
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I mean, they can struggle at home in the playoffs.
Their number one guy in the last two series isn't
their number one guy in the last two series. It's funny.
In the NFL, you can win just one super Bowl,
just one, and be legends, the Legion of Boom, the
eighty five Bears. All you have to do is win one.
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You can to name, you're identified. That's not the way
the NBA works. In the seventies. In the NBA, the
entire decade is reduced despite great players because all these
teams won just a single championship. I mean, the Denver
Nuggets win a championship, best player in the league get
bounced this year in the playoffs. They're like yesterday's news.
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They're like a startup website that ten years ago that
was a big deal. I mean in basketball, all the stories,
all the legends are about decades and eras. If I
say seventies NBA, you're thinking Blazers and Sonics. If I
say you know eighties NBA, oh, it's the Celtics and
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the Lakers dynasty. If I say nineties NBA, oh, that's
the Jordan here, two thousand NBA. Oh, that's the Lakers
and Kobe and Czech NBA. We talk about the NBA
in decades. In the NFL, you can just win one time.
I mean, Seahawks win a Super Bowl, legion the boom.
Everybody knows what it means. Eighty five Bears, they're still
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celebrating that in Chicago. Doesn't work that way in the NBA.
So are the Are these Celtics, the eighties Celtics where
they're going to be a dynasty for like ten years,
or they like the KG Paul Pierce, rey Al and
Rondo Celtics where they won, but they're not league defining.
Just moment in time they crushed. They got one. You
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don't talk about them. We don't talk about them. What
are they going to be? I think something that needs
to be discussed is that the Celtic. I've always said
aggressive wins in sports, and when you combine aggressive with
really smart, that's when you can get into dynasties. All right,
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So the Celtics did something that was very interesting. They
stole Porzingis, they stole Derek White, and they stole Drew Holiday.
How they do it because their general manager, Brad Stevens,
a very smart guy, took advantage of three tanking teams Portland,
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San Antonio, Right and Washington And before the new CBA
clicked in, which makes it hard to do what they're doing,
they took advantage of it. Now that the Celtics now
have eight players who can all shoot, who can all dribble,
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who can all switch defensively, who can all pass. Nobody
else in the league has like five, they have eight.
So they took advantage of three tanking teams San Antonio,
Washington and Portland and stole Holiday and Derek White and
Porzingis and coupled them with two really good players Jason
Tatum and Brown. The NBA is trying to avoid what
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the Celtics are doing. They don't want you to have
like six really good players with a new CBA and
the second Apron. They don't want this stuff. They want
you to be like Oklahoma City Draft. Develop, you stay put,
you grow, your fans love you. They don't want like
All Star, All Star, All Star tanking. Take that guy
you watch Boston. Dallas just didn't have the players. They
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just don't match up on either end of the floor.
I mean, Boston is now toying with Luca's emotions. Their
game plan was attack him, he'll unravel to Luca. So
I think Denver would have been a much better matchup.
But I mean, what I'm watching is smart plus aggressive
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added to a really good duo in a moment in time,
looks much better than the rest of the NBA. Here's
Jalen Brown.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
After experience is the best teacher All year long.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
We've been hearing about the Celtics of the past, you know,
for the last six to eight months. That's all we've
been hearing. Is like we'ves you know, all the different
shortcomings we've had in the past. This is a new team,
you know what I mean. We've learned from those experiences,
and in these moments you can see that, you know,
we didn't run from it. We stepped up to the
plate and we found no way to win.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Three nothing. Dallas is surprisingly favored. In game four. I'd
like to see Dallas, you know, pick a game out
of this thing, because I do love their story, their GM,
their coach Luca. I like the story of Dallas or
rookie from Duke's playing well. But if Boston is an
absolute I mean, really, Boston, these games have all been blowouts.
If not for Dallas had a little quick dry spell
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in the first game in the third quarter, and a
little quick dry spell in the second game in the
third quarter, and had a really bad fourth quarter for
most of it last night, They've had bad quarters. But
if you took the twelve quarters so far, it does
feel like like nine of them, Boston has clearly been
the better team, and so I think we're going to
have a champion and gonna happen pretty quickly. Also, the
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Aaron Rodgers drama continues to play out. God, the Jets
are noisy. JJ Reddick now is back, potentially in the lead.
Jordan for the Lakers job that whatever you think about
JJ Reddick and the Lakers, that it's a mess.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's not a family business call. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
And I never really bought. I know, coach Hurley is
coming on. I never really bought the fact that he
was in play.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
There.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I seventy million for him.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
You need to pay him a hundred, one hundred and
twenty to make him want to leave back to back and.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Become the iconic college coach.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I know it's the Lakers, it's an iconic franchise, But
to me, JJ Reddick is really interesting for a lot
of reasons. But what's also interesting is the fact that
the Lakers were now two weeks away from the draft.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
They don't have a head coach. And we talked earlier
this morning.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
All these teams that are trying to ascend are hiring
great assistance. Meanwhile the Lakers are talking about and this
is with a lot of respect to JJ Reddick, guy
who's never coached a single game forget the NBA, in college,
high school, whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
So there's a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
And you said something earlier as well this morning, Colin
before the show, which was Lebron with all his greatness,
is masking a lot of problems for a franchise that
really isn't getting enough criticism up until this point.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, they've won over fifty games. I think once in
a decade. They're running through coaches, they're missing on draft picks,
and again other teams now four other teams have solidified
their staffs, so the best available assistants are overwhelmingly gone.
I mean that's why generally the good team when Andy
Reid let go and Fillladelphia, Kansas City's on the phone
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an hour later. Yeah, not just for Andy, but he
wants Andy to be able to build the best staff.
You want to get stuff going co wickly.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
And you think about Andy Reed, that's an iconic Hall
of Fame coaching himself. He needed a great staff. He
needed a ceespag nolo. If JJ Reddick is going to
be the next head coach of the Lakers, lead staff,
you need absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Joe Mizzoula last year looked overwhelmed at times against Eric
Spoulstra Brad Stevens. The GM went out and fortified his staff.
And now the Celtics with a young Joe Mizzoula and
an old or more experienced staff, they look well coached.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
What did Jalen Brown just say, experience is the best teacher?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, j J.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Reddick has no experience, So how is he going to
be without an elite staff.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's you're setting him up to fail.
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You're now entering the bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates.
None of the bull So Robert Slow, the head coach
of the Jets, I don't doubt that Aaron Rodgers communicated
with Robert Sala. I don't think there was some communication
breakdown between Robert Sala and the head coach. And this
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is getting a lot of pushback. Aaron. You know I've
said this before. Never married, no kids, no pets. He's
going to do his own thing on his terms, no sacrificing.
Aaron's going to do Aaron Mini camp starts. He's not there.
I thought it was one day. Now he's been on vacation.
I'm told it's abroad. He may have a charity and
may be something that's very important is his life. But
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generally superstars can get people to be more amenable to
their schedule. But whatever, And I don't think five practices,
three practices is the end of the world. But it
is interesting that we all acknowledge that quarterback is a
leadership position. And according to this moment at a press conference,
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only Sala knew he was gonna miss Mini camp. Tyrod
said he had only found out that morning.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Is there any reason that wasn't communicated to him before.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
No, it's a one on one conversation. It's not a
team needed to know about. Aaron and I are on
the exact same page. There's no issue between Aaron or
his teammates for that matter. So like I said, we
addressed it yesterday. It's not it's more of an issue
for everyone outside the building than it is inside.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He didn't give teammates a heads up. Tom Brady's career
was being close to teammates like number four receivers. Aaron
couldn't be friend DeVante Adams enough to convince him to
stay in Green Bay. And you gotta be kidding me.
The Jets have a new offensive line. In an era
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of NFL football where veteran offensive linemen will not take
snaps in the preseason. You have a head coach on
a hot seat, an impulsive owner, two young receivers, and
an old beat up new receiver. Aaron only played four
snaps last year, and you don't call your teammates, you
don't give them a heads up. Now, I'm not saying
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mini camp is the be all end all. It's only
three or four practices in mid June. I'm not saying
it's the end of the world. But you know, leadership
is defined a lot of ways. This doesn't feel like leadership.
New O line, new receivers, coach in the hot seat,
impulsive owner GM missed on a left tackle and a quarterback.
You got to be all for one, one for all here, GM,
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your coach. Everybody needs your support. And I know, I know.
Quarterback is like riding a bicycle, you never forget. Well,
the problem is Aaron crashed his bicycle last year, so
extra snaps probably help. Not to mention, they brought in
seven eight nine new offensive players if you count the
draft and free agency. They got like seven eight five
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new starters, seven eight new nine new guys and still
an offensive coordinator that's not universally respected. So you can
do a lot of things remotely. You can interview for
a job these days. Remotely, you can have a doctor's appointment,
believe it or not. Remotely, you can order groceries remotely.
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You can't play quarterback remotely. Texts won't do. You have
to hand the ball off and timing with your wide receivers,
left tackle, tight end. It's not the end of the
world missing practices, but if you want to be called
a leader, like like, you're not going to give your
teammates a heads up, you're missing mini camp. You're only
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talking with Soma. Did the GM No? Did the owner know?
Feels like once again, and Eran's already communicating with his media,
SIKA fans so they can protect him. So once again,
Erin's on an island, communicating with people that will defend him,
separating from the team, doing what Aaron wants to do.
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I don't think it's the number of practices. I think
there's too many football practices. I think there shouldn't be
a lot of hitting. After about a week two weeks
of it at camp, you don't need to hit during
the season as a player. So I'm not here banging
on people missing practices, but we're all basically judged on
our life. Resumes Mad when he got drafted, Mad sitting
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behind farm, couldn't get along with the Green Bay front office,
struggling with Mike McCarthy, putting Robert sala on an island.
Why did Robert Robert Salah call it an event? Why
did Robert Salas say it was unexcused? Is it a
power dynamic thing, a friction thing, like it's the Jets
can't do the easy things right? It just feels like not.
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You can blame Sola, Go ahead, you can blame Aaron.
I'm not blaming either, but I'm just saying, like, if
you want to be the man that's like a twenty
four to seven gig, you can't quarter back remotely. And
once again Saula is up there with the New York Press,
which is fairly large and relentless, you know, just kind
of spitball in it. And yesterday it's like, yeah, he
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didn't really communicate it with the team, you know, but
he communicated it with us. For Slad to say it
was unexcused publicly and for him to acknowledge that he
didn't tell his teammates. That tells you I don't care
what they say publicly. They're getting frustrated with Aaron, regardless
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of where he's at charity helping others, regardless of where
he's at Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Turns this is the herdline news, all right.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Colin Jaden Daniels is in his first camp since being
drafted with the second overall pick by the Commanders. Despite
the high expectations in hype, the Heisman Trophy winner just
wants to learn to be a pro at the NFL level.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Just the learning curve of going out there and learn
how to be a pro. I know I said that previously, Minikat.
I just want to learn how to go out there
and be a pro. And that's that's probably the biggest
guy for me, is learning how to be a pro,
having a routine, the playbook, stuff like that. And you know,
I'm just trying to c must loudly as pousing you
if you really want to really want to be successful,
you want to learn, you want to be be a
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pro at the highest level. You know, you got to
take knowledge of people, learn from their routines will help
them be successful.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
You know, I'm just trying to sell them must loudly
spousing you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, trying to set an example and be there. Yeah,
good example setting. It matters.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'm all in on him.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I just temperament, talent, composure, whatever you want to say,
he has it.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I mean, I'm all in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, Temperament matters for that position. It doesn't for a lot,
but it does matter. Temperament matters for your point guards
in the NBA because they have the ball all the time.
It matters for your stars Lucas showing his temperaments and issue,
and it matters for your quarterbacks. It does always has.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
We talk about that franchise not being able to find
their franchise quarterback over the last decade, twenty years, however
long you want to go back.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Is he the next franchise quarterback? I watched it.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
To me, Caleb and him feel different than all the
other quarterbacks Bo Nicks, fitz Deenver. I don't think he's
a wildly dynamic athlete. Michael Pennix, I think will fit
a good offensive line in weapons in Atlanta. But it
feels like Jaden's got a little Lamar and Caleb's got
a little Patrick, So I feel like I've kind of
seen their NFL version, maybe not as good or as gifted,
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but I think it works. I think it looks a
lot like the guy right across the river over in Baltimore.
I think it ends up looking. I think you're gonna
have Lamar and Lamar Light all in the same area.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I like to in the DNV.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I like the story you told two about his freshman
year at Arizona State. He said, he's one hundred and
sixty five pounds, soaking wet, but you saw something in
Jane and Daniels that maybe not everyone else saw.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I remember talking to her edwards. It was as a
true freshman starting games in the Pac twelve, and you know,
I can I can remember watching him and thinking like
he doesn't weigh enough, but this is good. This is
gonna be a good player. His helmet looked too big on.
He was just a skinny kid, but he had something.
Eighteen years old on the field in the Pac twelve,
he had something.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Jim Harbaugh made a return of the NFL calling this offseason,
taking over the Los Angeles Chargers. Veterans Khalil Mack and
Joey Bosa are entering their third season together and already
see the difference Harbaugh has made.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I feel like he kind of just shifting the misset,
but putting us in those same situations we're going to
be in in the games. Just knowing that he thought
he thinks that way, it definitely definitely make you understand
where he's trying to take his team.
Speaker 11 (23:44):
It feels like coach was leading the team the way
it should be led. He has a feel of being
back in college. You know, the message is sent from
the top and it doesn't get mixed up as it's
moving down the ladder. It's boom, this is how we're
doing things, and everybody's following that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, as if it wasn't like that in the previous
several years. Harbaugh tends to be repetitive. There's a dogma.
I've had friends who have been on his staff. Jim
is going to tell you what the message is, and
he's going to tell you every day what the messages.
And it allows players to play fast and physical. They
don't have to think a lot. They know what they're doing.
The message is clear. You know you play one inch
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from out of control on defense, no mistakes, physical on offense.
It's repetition. It's very saban like. You know. The message
is very clear with Jim. It's never clouded or muddy,
and that's what the Chargers needed. Clear messaging, culture, rebuild.
There's still light on the perimeter, but in the trenches
it's a good football team.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They added obviously Joe.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
They Adladd McConkie, receiver from Georgia, my Alabama, George.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Plus five thousand super Bowl champs. Yeah, can they do it?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They're not a Super Bowl team. Eight and a half
over under over easy, yeah, EASi.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Jordan Love he will play on a one year extension
this season as he looks to land a long term deal.
Last week, GM Brian Goodenkin said both sides were motivated
to get a deal done by the startup camp, and
yesterday Jordan Love said that was his expectation as well.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Colin. The Packers' schedule is quite tough.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
We also have a quarterback who just beat Dallas on
the road in a playoff game. Yeah, and looked pretty
good for most of the game against the forty nine
ers in the Divisional. Jordan Love to me will get
his contract extension before July twenty second.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I think the bigger question is where does that number land.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Is it along the lines of Jared Goff's four year,
two hundred twelve million dollar extension.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
There's one big advantage that the Packers have here is
that because they have drafted so well at wide receiver
and tight end offensively, they've hit like six out of six,
seven out of seven hits that they're not going to
be paying skill players right for the next three to
four years they have hit on so they've always drafted well.
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Green Bay has hit on so many skill players that
allowed them to upgrade at running back. That allows them
to pay Jordan Love. So whereas they they didn't play
him for three years while he sat, you know, you'd
rather play these young quarterbacks, they kind of inverted it.
They hit on so many draft picks that will play
with him that they they'll be in good cap space.
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So their takeaway is, let's sign him earlier than later,
let's get it done. It may be slightly team friendly,
but green Bay is in a group. This is green
Bay is what you want to be in the NFL. Young,
mostly cheap, have their quarterback who's getting better. An offensive
coach and stability in the organization. Green Bay right now,
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that's how you do it. Thet they check every buck. Now,
their defense is never quite as good as I think
their personnel is. I've always left wondering, I like a
lot of the players, why aren't there better defensive coats?
Some of it's coordinating, but but I mean, if you're
gonna underachieve somewhere in the NFL, make it on the
defensive side. You can change coordinators, don't have the change
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head coaches, but they check every box. Quarterback, offensive coach,
draft well tons of weapons. They upgraded to a star back.
I love him right now.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Yeah you mentioned Jaden Reid, Romeo, doves, Kristin Watson, offensive line.
The quarterback really is the centerpiece. Jordan love to me,
feels like a franchise quarterback. Big arm, he communicates, moves,
He's a great athlete, great saw everything.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Also was great against Dallas and the Niners. He was
a very good big game.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Quarter and his first opportunity he excelled.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, he didn't shrink in big games, which is people
upset about Lamar, and I love Lamar, but it's like
he kind of shrinks in big games. Jordan went to
Dallas and was on fire from the first nap.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah, and finally Colin, we're gonna move on to den
or Shan Payton enters year two with the Broncos, hoping
to get things on track after a disappointing eight and
nine season. Now, yesterday, Peyton told his team that he
was canceling today's mini caamp practice and sending the group
home early, saying the offseason program went well, and adding quote,
I like where we're at.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
They are my favorite over team and five and a
half wins, they're an over bet. Their personnel is not
as bad. They have a number one receiver, they have
good backs, they have a top ten oer line. They
do not have an edge rusher, so they went after
that in the draft. They have a college quarterback with
sixty one starts, probably one of the more talented backups
(28:42):
now in Zach Wilson. This team's okay.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, the schedule stuff though.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, schedule's tough, but it's not that tough. They've got
Carolina and the Saints and the Bucks and the Raiders.
It's not that tough. And by the way, if they
play Kansas City late, maybe resting Mahomes, they play the
Bengals and the Chiefs week seventeen eighteen. If those teams
were wrapped up for ole making take a week off,
(29:09):
that the advantage of playing a great team in the
last game is you're not gonna get all their starters.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Here's what I would say though, with Sean Payton.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
And I know that he has been a quarterback guru
and gets a lot of credit for Drew Brees being
a Hall of Famer, rightfully so, but Russell Wilson he inherited.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We know it didn't go well.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Now he goes after bow Nicks, the guy that some
people thought Mike get out of the first round. He
drafts him in the top fifteen. I would argue call
him that if things don't go really well with bow Knicks,
especially early, that you could probably say Sean Payton's career
or his resume takes a pretty drastic turn. There's a
lot of pressure on this to work because he went
and said bo Nix.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Is my guy.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I'm gonna shape him to be the next row.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't believe that because I think rookie quarterbacks all struggle,
and Rerew Luck did Manning, all of them struggle. This
is a rich ownership group. They're not hand to mouth
here in it for the long richest owners in the NFL.
He's won a Super Bowl. He's an offensive coach. I
can see bailing on a defensive coach that feels like
over his skis or a hacket, a young coach that's
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still a ready. You're not gonna bail on Sean Payton.
They're gonna give this time and again, I don't believe
bo nicks it with sixty one college starts. He may
not win ten games. He's not gonna be over his skis. Like,
he can move, he can throw, he's smart. They'll look functional,
they may not be great, but you're not gonna You're
(30:31):
not gonna fire a guy if in year two we're
really functional. We just keep losing to the Chiefs and
Jim Harbaugh and you know, I mean, we're losing to
the teams we should lose to. Now, I look at
that schedule and I see a seven to ten, eight
nine team that's not a playoff team, but it's very
close week after week.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
I wait, if they hit on their edge rusher in college, Yeah,
we'll say the folks in the desert five and a half.
That feels that does feel a little low.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
Well, he's been in the news for the last six months,
dominating college basketball, up for the Lakers gig. People are saying, wow,
thee leverage play Danny Hurley. Well, I don't know Danny
that well, but there's not a lot of bs from
what I know and what I hear, so I my
takeaway was, you wouldn't have wasted your time in the
(32:44):
middle of recruiting to fly out to Lave even if
you got a nice shrimp bigger. My takeaway was that
you were interested in the job, that you wanted the
job take me to what was going through your head
when you flew out of LA back home to Connecticut.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
I was really excited about the job. I mean for
us right now. You know, we're we've started practice with
our you know, with our current team that's going to
go for potentially a three p you know, we're also
you know in the you know, heating up in a
really really critical time for like recruiting, you know, the
the rising seniors in high school. So you know that
(33:26):
this was not a great time for me, you know,
to to mess around or to go for a leverage play.
I already had the leverage back to back, back to
back national championships, and you know the way that we're
doing it, uh and putting players in the n b
A and and our culture and the way we play ball.
(33:47):
I mean, that's that that's my leverage for me, you know,
getting a chance to me Rob Polanka the last couple
of years. Last year's draft, they really like Jordan Hawkins,
So you got a chance to get to know Rob
really the last you know, two drafts, you know, because
we've had prospects and I've just been super impressed with him,
(34:09):
and obviously the opportunity to you know, coach, you know,
one of the biggest brands in all of the sports
landscape in the entire world. For somebody that loves basketball
was something that you know, I really owed it to
myself and my family to consider.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Listen, I I had told, I said on the air
sixty five thirty five, he's considering it. But I lived
in Connecticut. It's family, it's church as tradition, it's Yukon basketball.
I said, this is this is a hard place to leave.
But when I saw you at the Billy Joel concert
with your wife, I'm like, come on, come on that
that come on and not leaving that I lived out there,
(34:48):
Like that's part of like New York, Connecticut. When you
when I want to literally go to the Billy Joel
concert because I don't think you've made your mind up yet.
I don't think you'd made your mind up. I know
you're putting your hands in your face, but I'm sitting
there thinking, that's three hours with his wife. That is
that is Connecticut, that is New York. I mean, honestly,
I I literally thought to myself, if he was on
(35:10):
the fence, he's driving home tonight. I don't know if
he can leave that, am I do I sound crazy
saying this.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
Yeah, it was a nice break for me, you know
because on Monday of that week, I really had, you know,
things with the with the Lakers had had started to
heat up, and then you know, the WOJ bomb dropped
on Thursday, and you know that that that my whole
life and our whole family, and and what that meant
(35:41):
in terms of the intensity of the situation went through
the roof for me. I mean, it was everywhere man
like in the media, and it's all people are talking about,
and I couldn't really go anywhere around here, you know,
they getting on the plane and meeting Jeanie Buss and
being blown away by her and everyone with the Lakers
(36:03):
and the whole opportunity, I needed like a mental break.
And then like Cooper, Cooper, you know, appreciate you. I
hope you have a great year, hope to meet you
in the final four next year. But we had to
cancel of going to a Billy Joel concert last September
to accommodate Cooper and Kelly and his family for an
(36:24):
official visit. And as big a moment it was in
my career to make a huge decision. I was not
missing Billy Joel one of his last concerts at the Garden.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, you know, I said this. You know, Coach k
was offered a big job in the NBA Laker job,
but he decided to stay at Duke and then coach
the Olympic team. So you get some of the flavor.
And to me, it's like, oh, that's really smart that
you get the relationships, you get the I mean, you
get to be around the world's best players, which is
(36:56):
I think guys like you intellectually need that. You need
to be challenged because obviously from your career you're in
a sending coach. Is it possible if the Olympic team
came to you over time and said, hey, we want
you to run this thing, that that would be enough, Danny,
that would be enough to serve that because I get
the itch, Saban, had it spur your hat it, I
(37:18):
get the itch. Could that potentially down the road be
the itch?
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah? I mean not.
Speaker 12 (37:24):
That would be an incredible honor, right, The greatest honor,
and you know in coaching, would be to represent your
country with USA Basketball. And that really the poll was
the opportunity the Lakers uh, not necessarily LA but coaching
the Lakers, coaching Lebron James, you know, Anthony Davis, like
(37:47):
the coaching Lebron, Like the opportunity to coach one of
the greatest players of all time, what that would look like,
the challenge of doing that, how hard you would have
to work, the level of ex fertise, the relationship building
that you would have to bring to that position to
make it work with one of the smartest players and
(38:07):
the greatest players. Made it something that was drawing me
to the job, not not away from the job, but
you know, for me in the end, you know, the
impact that you can have on eighteen, nineteen year old
twenty year olds, you know, the fulfillment that you get from,
you know, being a part of you know, the last
group of people that could maybe change the lives of young.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
People, you know.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
And then the opportunity obviously to come back to a
place and to do something that hasn't been done, you
know since John Wooden and those great UCLA teams, The
chance to go for history, you know, and what you
mean to the state of Connecticut and Yukon as a whole.
And then all the family considerations as well, just there's
too many things that.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Kept me here.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Finally, about a minute left, did you talk to Lebron?
I mean, obviously Lebron's the greatest basketball player in twenty years.
You talk or text or anything.
Speaker 12 (38:59):
We had some text messages and you know he uh,
you know, incredible uh you know, message from him over
the course of the weekend just just uh, you know,
talking about talking about basketball and and and some different
things and and and letting me know, uh you know
that you know that that if he was there in
(39:21):
LA that I have his support and uh just like
think about that man like that. That blew my mind.
And and then we we we got into a text exchange,
and then the exchange even even went through h to
when uh, when I chose to go in another direction.
So uh, you know, it blew my mind when I
(39:42):
when you get a text message from Lebron.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
James, Hey, it's great seeing you kick button recruiting. I'm
a huge fan and uh give your best of the fam.
Thanks for coming on the show and Thursday, Coach, I appreciate.
Speaker 12 (39:55):
It, appreciate you. Miss you hare Connecticut brother.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
All Right, Dan Hurley, the Great Dan Hurley fourteen years
as a coach, two national titles, a great basketball family.
And I'll tell you I saw when I saw he
and his wife at the Billy Joel concert and knowing
how big of a deal, I think it was the
last Billy Joel concert. I just thought to myself, people
don't understand I had the great honor to work right
(40:19):
in Boston, New York area, the New England region. I
considered it really the growth period of my life. I
had my kids, put them in great schools. The people
are amazing, tradition matters. I'm somebody that's bounced all over
the country, and it was the most bedrock foundational place
I'd ever lived. People grow up there, they stay there.
(40:40):
They vacation at Cape Cod, they go to Martha's, even
vacation in the area. The prep schools, the tradition, the churches,
the camps. It's hard for a lot of West Coast
people to understand the depth of the East Coast, and
I love it. I think it's a I still spend
(41:01):
a lot of my time in the summers I go
back East. I think it's the most beautiful place I've
ever been to in my life, especially in the summers
and the falls. It's glorious, but there's a depth. It's
not wider, it's deeper. In the East. It's about your grandpa,
your dad, the business, the church, the camp, your friends.
People out west tend to be sort of live and
(41:23):
let live a little more flexible and amenable to change.
That's good too, That's probably what I am. But I
look at that Billy Joel Concert, I'm like, man, I
know that those events. It's hard to pull yourself away
from stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
You know that you live in Connecticut now, yeah, and
it's unbelievable what he means to that state. You know,
He's stores has been completely rejuvenated in a post Calhoun,
even Kevin Ollie world because of this man.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
It's very hard to leave that behind.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Good stuff. Dan Hurley delivers as Oh it's Rachel Nichols.
Joel Klatt stopping by today as well. Got a good show.
Jordan Schultz is in. Jamak has an assignment today and
we understand that. And so Jamak has gone today. He
will return tomorrow with Alex Curry, and Jordan just flies out.
Hopefully it's on our company's dime. Fly here, fly there.
(42:13):
It's just the one day stop. Love to have him
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Flue cross Country And you covered the NBA formally, Now,
the NFL is what you cover, but when you cover
the NBA, you find out it's a star driven league
and stars are defined. Right East May and June finally
right and has not been a good couple of days
for Luca, and we start with that. One of the
(01:03):
things I love about Super Bowls, World Cups, NBA Finals.
There pressurized situations, okay, and in pressurized situations in sports
are in life, the truth comes out every dad's a
good little league dad when his kid's winning and hitting
home runs. But what about when the umpiring's terrible and
(01:24):
he strikes out? The truth comes out. Add a little
pressure to life in sports. The truth comes out. And
the truth is when I compared Luca to Carmelo Anthony,
it sort of looks like it doesn't it a very
flawed star, right, better than Carmelo, but a very flawed star.
All the deficiencies for Luca are coming out in the finals.
(01:44):
Number one, he never stops complaining to refs. It hurts
his team. He's on the floor complaining. There go the
Celtics down to the other end. Tohattan twice last night.
Another thing. He's been awful defensively in this series. Awful
in fact, there is data and video that illustrates he's
maybe the worst defensive player in the Finals in a decade.
(02:07):
And like all great scores, when Fitt hits the Shan,
he becomes isoball guy and doesn't play well with others.
The man's only had fifteen assists last night. They're almost
getting doubled in this series in assists. So Luke is
an all time talent, but he's not a late bloomer.
He was an all time talent at fifteen years old.
(02:30):
He has been lauded, he has been worshiped, and when
you're great at fifteen until now at twenty five, he's
already been a five time All NBA Guy First Team.
That's more than Steph. Is he now amenable to change?
Is he adaptable? Because to be a champion, Michael Jordan
figured this out, you got to look yourself in the mirror.
(02:53):
I mean Michael Jordan looked himself in the mirror and said,
I can score sixty and not win titles or trust
my teammates. Jackson talked him into trusting his teammates. Michael
became a champion. Lebron James was physically elite his first
day in the league. He had to eventually the Spurs
wouldn't guard him in the finals from the perimeter. He
(03:14):
had to learn to shoot a three and add layers
to his game. So it just wasn't about his physical superiority.
I mean, I'm watching Luca unravel last night, get flustered
and melt down. You can't do that against the Celtics.
Celtics are smart. Horford and Brown and Tatum and Drew Holiday.
They'll get into your head. This is a veteran team
(03:35):
and they were toying with the younger Mavericks last night.
They were toying with them. And by the way, it's
completely fair. I don't care how good your regular season is.
I don't care how good your playoffs are. If you
melt down in the finals, it will stick with you
until you win a finals. Magic Johnson had an awful finals.
He was called tragic Johnson in nineteen eighty four. He
(03:58):
had to eventually win for that to disapp Lebron James
terrified to have the basketball against Dallas ridiculed, mocked, laughed
at until he won the next year. And this is
gonna stick to Luca and it should fairly awful defensively,
been totally disengaged defensively, constantly melting down with the officials,
(04:22):
not really engaging other teammates, swept by the Celtics. That's
gonna stick to him. I mean when you when you
got five fouls and you're trying to draw a charge
and you're a bad defensive player, like what are you doing?
This is gonna stick to Luca. It should stick to Luca.
(04:44):
Pressurized situations and sports business, in life, unveil the truth.
By the way, Kyrie can score, but he wouldn't very
good defensively. Last night either, you are seeing a deep, mature,
smart Boston team toy with Dallas and their emotions. Here's
(05:04):
Luca and Jason Kidd after.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
We couldn't play physical.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So no, I don't want to say nothing, but you know,
six following the NBA Finals, basically I'm like this, come on, man,
better than that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He is definitely got a bullseye on his chest, and
so he's got to be able to guard and understand
that we're there to protect him and help him if
he does get beat. But again, he's carrying the load
offensively and they are putting him in every pick and
roll and io and so he's got to be able
(05:46):
to play the game where he can rest on offense
and let others, do you know, carry the load.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
The Celtics are picking on Luca. Their game plan was
clearly make him work on the defensive end. He'll unravel.
Force him to work on the defensive end. He will
eventually quit, He'll get frustrated, he'll complain to the refs
that Boston game plan. They figured it out. It is
(06:14):
working perfectly, attack him, make him work. He'll turn into
isoldball guy, complain about fouls and unravel and that's what
you're seeing. So let's talk about the Celtics. They're actually
bad for the NBA's broadcasting partners. They've won ten straight games,
They're fifteen to two in the playoffs. The only time
(06:36):
you see network executives really freak out is with sweeps
the hockey series for ESPN's to love, and the Celtics
are flying through the playoffs. You got to get to
six games to make money. Boston's bad for business, and
they're just too deep not to win a championship. But
I've said they're too historically strange to be a dynasty.
(06:58):
I mean, they can struggle at home in the playoffs.
Their number one guy in the last two series isn't
their number one guy in the last two series. It's funny.
In the NFL, you can win just one super Bowl,
just one, and be legends, the Legion of Boom, the
eighty five Bears. All you have to do is win one.
(07:20):
You can to name, you're identified. That's not the way
the NBA works. In the seventies. In the NBA, the
entire decade is reduced despite great players because all these
teams won just a single championship. I mean, the Denver
Nuggets win a championship, best player in the league get
bounced this year in the playoffs. They're like yesterday's news.
(07:44):
They're like a startup website that ten years ago that
was a big deal. I mean in basketball, all the stories,
all the legends are about decades and eras. If I
say seventies NBA, you're thinking Blazers and Sonics. If I
say you know eighties NBA, oh, it's the Celtics and
(08:06):
the Lakers dynasty. If I say nineties NBA, oh, that's
the Jordan here, two thousand NBA. Oh, that's the Lakers
and Kobe and Czech NBA. We talk about the NBA
in decades. In the NFL, you can just win one time.
I mean, Seahawks win a Super Bowl, legion the boom.
Everybody knows what it means. Eighty five Bears, they're still
(08:29):
celebrating that in Chicago. Doesn't work that way in the NBA.
So are the Are these Celtics, the eighties Celtics where
they're going to be a dynasty for like ten years,
or they like the KG Paul Pierce, rey Al and
Rondo Celtics where they won, but they're not league defining.
Just moment in time they crushed. They got one. You
(08:50):
don't talk about them. We don't talk about them. What
are they going to be? I think something that needs
to be discussed is that the Celtic. I've always said
aggressive wins in sports, and when you combine aggressive with
really smart, that's when you can get into dynasties. All right,
(09:13):
So the Celtics did something that was very interesting. They
stole Porzingis, they stole Derek White, and they stole Drew Holiday.
How they do it because their general manager, Brad Stevens,
a very smart guy, took advantage of three tanking teams Portland,
(09:33):
San Antonio, Right and Washington And before the new CBA
clicked in, which makes it hard to do what they're doing,
they took advantage of it. Now that the Celtics now
have eight players who can all shoot, who can all dribble,
(09:54):
who can all switch defensively, who can all pass. Nobody
else in the league has like five, they have eight.
So they took advantage of three tanking teams San Antonio,
Washington and Portland and stole Holiday and Derek White and
Porzingis and coupled them with two really good players Jason
Tatum and Brown. The NBA is trying to avoid what
(10:18):
the Celtics are doing. They don't want you to have
like six really good players with a new CBA and
the second Apron. They don't want this stuff. They want
you to be like Oklahoma City Draft. Develop, you stay put,
you grow, your fans love you. They don't want like
All Star, All Star, All Star tanking. Take that guy
you watch Boston. Dallas just didn't have the players. They
(10:40):
just don't match up on either end of the floor.
I mean, Boston is now toying with Luca's emotions. Their
game plan was attack him, he'll unravel to Luca. So
I think Denver would have been a much better matchup.
But I mean, what I'm watching is smart plus aggressive
(11:03):
added to a really good duo in a moment in time,
looks much better than the rest of the NBA. Here's
Jalen Brown.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
After experience is the best teacher All year long.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
We've been hearing about the Celtics of the past, you know,
for the last six to eight months. That's all we've
been hearing. Is like we'ves you know, all the different
shortcomings we've had in the past. This is a new team,
you know what I mean. We've learned from those experiences,
and in these moments you can see that, you know,
we didn't run from it. We stepped up to the
plate and we found no way to win.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Three nothing. Dallas is surprisingly favored. In game four. I'd
like to see Dallas, you know, pick a game out
of this thing, because I do love their story, their GM,
their coach Luca. I like the story of Dallas or
rookie from Duke's playing well. But if Boston is an
absolute I mean, really, Boston, these games have all been blowouts.
If not for Dallas had a little quick dry spell
(12:01):
in the first game in the third quarter, and a
little quick dry spell in the second game in the
third quarter, and had a really bad fourth quarter for
most of it last night, They've had bad quarters. But
if you took the twelve quarters so far, it does
feel like like nine of them, Boston has clearly been
the better team, and so I think we're going to
have a champion and gonna happen pretty quickly. Also, the
(12:25):
Aaron Rodgers drama continues to play out. God, the Jets
are noisy. JJ Reddick now is back, potentially in the lead.
Jordan for the Lakers job that whatever you think about
JJ Reddick and the Lakers, that it's a mess.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's not a family business call. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
And I never really bought. I know, coach Hurley is
coming on. I never really bought the fact that he
was in play.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
There.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I seventy million for him.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
You need to pay him a hundred, one hundred and
twenty to make him want to leave back to back and.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Become the iconic college coach.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I know it's the Lakers, it's an iconic franchise, But
to me, JJ Reddick is really interesting for a lot
of reasons. But what's also interesting is the fact that
the Lakers were now two weeks away from the draft.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
They don't have a head coach. And we talked earlier
this morning.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
All these teams that are trying to ascend are hiring
great assistance. Meanwhile the Lakers are talking about and this
is with a lot of respect to JJ Reddick, guy
who's never coached a single game forget the NBA, in college,
high school, whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
So there's a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
And you said something earlier as well this morning, Colin
before the show, which was Lebron with all his greatness,
is masking a lot of problems for a franchise that
really isn't getting enough criticism up until this point.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, they've won over fifty games. I think once in
a decade. They're running through coaches, they're missing on draft picks,
and again other teams now four other teams have solidified
their staffs, so the best available assistants are overwhelmingly gone.
I mean that's why generally the good team when Andy
Reid let go and Fillladelphia, Kansas City's on the phone
(14:01):
an hour later. Yeah, not just for Andy, but he
wants Andy to be able to build the best staff.
You want to get stuff going co wickly.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
And you think about Andy Reed, that's an iconic Hall
of Fame coaching himself. He needed a great staff. He
needed a ceespag nolo. If JJ Reddick is going to
be the next head coach of the Lakers, lead staff,
you need absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Joe Mizzoula last year looked overwhelmed at times against Eric
Spoulstra Brad Stevens. The GM went out and fortified his staff.
And now the Celtics with a young Joe Mizzoula and
an old or more experienced staff, they look well coached.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
What did Jalen Brown just say, experience is the best teacher?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, j J.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Reddick has no experience, So how is he going to
be without an elite staff.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's you're setting him up to fail.
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
You're now entering the bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates.
None of the bull So Robert Slow, the head coach
of the Jets, I don't doubt that Aaron Rodgers communicated
with Robert Sala. I don't think there was some communication
breakdown between Robert Sala and the head coach. And this
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is getting a lot of pushback. Aaron. You know I've
said this before. Never married, no kids, no pets. He's
going to do his own thing on his terms, no sacrificing.
Aaron's going to do Aaron Mini camp starts. He's not there.
I thought it was one day. Now he's been on vacation.
I'm told it's abroad. He may have a charity and
may be something that's very important is his life. But
(15:39):
generally superstars can get people to be more amenable to
their schedule. But whatever, And I don't think five practices,
three practices is the end of the world. But it
is interesting that we all acknowledge that quarterback is a
leadership position. And according to this moment at a press conference,
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only Sala knew he was gonna miss Mini camp. Tyrod
said he had only found out that morning.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Is there any reason that wasn't communicated to him before.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
No, it's a one on one conversation. It's not a
team needed to know about. Aaron and I are on
the exact same page. There's no issue between Aaron or
his teammates for that matter. So like I said, we
addressed it yesterday. It's not it's more of an issue
for everyone outside the building than it is inside.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He didn't give teammates a heads up. Tom Brady's career
was being close to teammates like number four receivers. Aaron
couldn't be friend DeVante Adams enough to convince him to
stay in Green Bay. And you gotta be kidding me.
The Jets have a new offensive line. In an era
(16:51):
of NFL football where veteran offensive linemen will not take
snaps in the preseason. You have a head coach on
a hot seat, an impulsive owner, two young receivers, and
an old beat up new receiver. Aaron only played four
snaps last year, and you don't call your teammates, you
don't give them a heads up. Now, I'm not saying
(17:12):
mini camp is the be all end all. It's only
three or four practices in mid June. I'm not saying
it's the end of the world. But you know, leadership
is defined a lot of ways. This doesn't feel like leadership.
New O line, new receivers, coach in the hot seat,
impulsive owner GM missed on a left tackle and a quarterback.
You got to be all for one, one for all here, GM,
(17:34):
your coach. Everybody needs your support. And I know, I know.
Quarterback is like riding a bicycle, you never forget. Well,
the problem is Aaron crashed his bicycle last year, so
extra snaps probably help. Not to mention, they brought in
seven eight nine new offensive players if you count the
draft and free agency. They got like seven eight five
(17:57):
new starters, seven eight new nine new guys and still
an offensive coordinator that's not universally respected. So you can
do a lot of things remotely. You can interview for
a job these days. Remotely, you can have a doctor's appointment,
believe it or not. Remotely, you can order groceries remotely.
(18:19):
You can't play quarterback remotely. Texts won't do. You have
to hand the ball off and timing with your wide receivers,
left tackle, tight end. It's not the end of the
world missing practices, but if you want to be called
a leader, like like, you're not going to give your
teammates a heads up, you're missing mini camp. You're only
(18:39):
talking with Soma. Did the GM No? Did the owner know?
Feels like once again, and Eran's already communicating with his media,
SIKA fans so they can protect him. So once again,
Erin's on an island, communicating with people that will defend him,
separating from the team, doing what Aaron wants to do.
(19:01):
I don't think it's the number of practices. I think
there's too many football practices. I think there shouldn't be
a lot of hitting. After about a week two weeks
of it at camp, you don't need to hit during
the season as a player. So I'm not here banging
on people missing practices, but we're all basically judged on
our life. Resumes Mad when he got drafted, Mad sitting
(19:25):
behind farm, couldn't get along with the Green Bay front office,
struggling with Mike McCarthy, putting Robert sala on an island.
Why did Robert Robert Salah call it an event? Why
did Robert Salas say it was unexcused? Is it a
power dynamic thing, a friction thing, like it's the Jets
can't do the easy things right? It just feels like not.
(19:49):
You can blame Sola, Go ahead, you can blame Aaron.
I'm not blaming either, but I'm just saying, like, if
you want to be the man that's like a twenty
four to seven gig, you can't quarter back remotely. And
once again Saula is up there with the New York Press,
which is fairly large and relentless, you know, just kind
of spitball in it. And yesterday it's like, yeah, he
(20:12):
didn't really communicate it with the team, you know, but
he communicated it with us. For Slad to say it
was unexcused publicly and for him to acknowledge that he
didn't tell his teammates. That tells you I don't care
what they say publicly. They're getting frustrated with Aaron, regardless
(20:35):
of where he's at charity helping others, regardless of where
he's at Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Turns this is the herdline news, all right.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Colin Jaden Daniels is in his first camp since being
drafted with the second overall pick by the Commanders. Despite
the high expectations in hype, the Heisman Trophy winner just
wants to learn to be a pro at the NFL level.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Just the learning curve of going out there and learn
how to be a pro. I know I said that previously, Minikat.
I just want to learn how to go out there
and be a pro. And that's that's probably the biggest
guy for me, is learning how to be a pro,
having a routine, the playbook, stuff like that. And you know,
I'm just trying to c must loudly as pousing you
if you really want to really want to be successful,
you want to learn, you want to be be a
(21:24):
pro at the highest level. You know, you got to
take knowledge of people, learn from their routines will help
them be successful.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
You know, I'm just trying to sell them must loudly
spousing you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, trying to set an example and be there. Yeah,
good example setting. It matters.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'm all in on him.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I just temperament, talent, composure, whatever you want to say,
he has it.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I mean, I'm all in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, Temperament matters for that position. It doesn't for a lot,
but it does matter. Temperament matters for your point guards
in the NBA because they have the ball all the time.
It matters for your stars Lucas showing his temperaments and issue,
and it matters for your quarterbacks. It does always has.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
We talk about that franchise not being able to find
their franchise quarterback over the last decade, twenty years, however
long you want to go back.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Is he the next franchise quarterback? I watched it.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
To me, Caleb and him feel different than all the
other quarterbacks Bo Nicks, fitz Deenver. I don't think he's
a wildly dynamic athlete. Michael Pennix, I think will fit
a good offensive line in weapons in Atlanta. But it
feels like Jaden's got a little Lamar and Caleb's got
a little Patrick, So I feel like I've kind of
seen their NFL version, maybe not as good or as gifted,
(22:34):
but I think it works. I think it looks a
lot like the guy right across the river over in Baltimore.
I think it ends up looking. I think you're gonna
have Lamar and Lamar Light all in the same area.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I like to in the DNV.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I like the story you told two about his freshman
year at Arizona State. He said, he's one hundred and
sixty five pounds, soaking wet, but you saw something in
Jane and Daniels that maybe not everyone else saw.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I remember talking to her edwards. It was as a
true freshman starting games in the Pac twelve, and you know,
I can I can remember watching him and thinking like
he doesn't weigh enough, but this is good. This is
gonna be a good player. His helmet looked too big on.
He was just a skinny kid, but he had something.
Eighteen years old on the field in the Pac twelve,
he had something.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Jim Harbaugh made a return of the NFL calling this offseason,
taking over the Los Angeles Chargers. Veterans Khalil Mack and
Joey Bosa are entering their third season together and already
see the difference Harbaugh has made.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I feel like he kind of just shifting the misset,
but putting us in those same situations we're going to
be in in the games. Just knowing that he thought
he thinks that way, it definitely definitely make you understand
where he's trying to take his team.
Speaker 11 (23:44):
It feels like coach was leading the team the way
it should be led. He has a feel of being
back in college. You know, the message is sent from
the top and it doesn't get mixed up as it's
moving down the ladder. It's boom, this is how we're
doing things, and everybody's following that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, as if it wasn't like that in the previous
several years. Harbaugh tends to be repetitive. There's a dogma.
I've had friends who have been on his staff. Jim
is going to tell you what the message is, and
he's going to tell you every day what the messages.
And it allows players to play fast and physical. They
don't have to think a lot. They know what they're doing.
The message is clear. You know you play one inch
(24:24):
from out of control on defense, no mistakes, physical on offense.
It's repetition. It's very saban like. You know. The message
is very clear with Jim. It's never clouded or muddy,
and that's what the Chargers needed. Clear messaging, culture, rebuild.
There's still light on the perimeter, but in the trenches
it's a good football team.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They added obviously Joe.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
They Adladd McConkie, receiver from Georgia, my Alabama, George.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Plus five thousand super Bowl champs. Yeah, can they do it?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They're not a Super Bowl team. Eight and a half
over under over easy, yeah, EASi.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Jordan Love he will play on a one year extension
this season as he looks to land a long term deal.
Last week, GM Brian Goodenkin said both sides were motivated
to get a deal done by the startup camp, and
yesterday Jordan Love said that was his expectation as well.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Colin. The Packers' schedule is quite tough.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
We also have a quarterback who just beat Dallas on
the road in a playoff game. Yeah, and looked pretty
good for most of the game against the forty nine
ers in the Divisional. Jordan Love to me will get
his contract extension before July twenty second.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I think the bigger question is where does that number land.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Is it along the lines of Jared Goff's four year,
two hundred twelve million dollar extension.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
There's one big advantage that the Packers have here is
that because they have drafted so well at wide receiver
and tight end offensively, they've hit like six out of six,
seven out of seven hits that they're not going to
be paying skill players right for the next three to
four years they have hit on so they've always drafted well.
(26:03):
Green Bay has hit on so many skill players that
allowed them to upgrade at running back. That allows them
to pay Jordan Love. So whereas they they didn't play
him for three years while he sat, you know, you'd
rather play these young quarterbacks, they kind of inverted it.
They hit on so many draft picks that will play
with him that they they'll be in good cap space.
(26:26):
So their takeaway is, let's sign him earlier than later,
let's get it done. It may be slightly team friendly,
but green Bay is in a group. This is green
Bay is what you want to be in the NFL. Young,
mostly cheap, have their quarterback who's getting better. An offensive
coach and stability in the organization. Green Bay right now,
(26:50):
that's how you do it. Thet they check every buck. Now,
their defense is never quite as good as I think
their personnel is. I've always left wondering, I like a
lot of the players, why aren't there better defensive coats?
Some of it's coordinating, but but I mean, if you're
gonna underachieve somewhere in the NFL, make it on the
defensive side. You can change coordinators, don't have the change
(27:12):
head coaches, but they check every box. Quarterback, offensive coach,
draft well tons of weapons. They upgraded to a star back.
I love him right now.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Yeah you mentioned Jaden Reid, Romeo, doves, Kristin Watson, offensive line.
The quarterback really is the centerpiece. Jordan love to me,
feels like a franchise quarterback. Big arm, he communicates, moves,
He's a great athlete, great saw everything.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Also was great against Dallas and the Niners. He was
a very good big game.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Quarter and his first opportunity he excelled.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, he didn't shrink in big games, which is people
upset about Lamar, and I love Lamar, but it's like
he kind of shrinks in big games. Jordan went to
Dallas and was on fire from the first nap.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah, and finally Colin, we're gonna move on to den
or Shan Payton enters year two with the Broncos, hoping
to get things on track after a disappointing eight and
nine season. Now, yesterday, Peyton told his team that he
was canceling today's mini caamp practice and sending the group
home early, saying the offseason program went well, and adding quote,
I like where we're at.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
They are my favorite over team and five and a
half wins, they're an over bet. Their personnel is not
as bad. They have a number one receiver, they have
good backs, they have a top ten oer line. They
do not have an edge rusher, so they went after
that in the draft. They have a college quarterback with
sixty one starts, probably one of the more talented backups
(28:42):
now in Zach Wilson. This team's okay.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, the schedule stuff though.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, schedule's tough, but it's not that tough. They've got
Carolina and the Saints and the Bucks and the Raiders.
It's not that tough. And by the way, if they
play Kansas City late, maybe resting Mahomes, they play the
Bengals and the Chiefs week seventeen eighteen. If those teams
were wrapped up for ole making take a week off,
(29:09):
that the advantage of playing a great team in the
last game is you're not gonna get all their starters.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Here's what I would say though, with Sean Payton.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
And I know that he has been a quarterback guru
and gets a lot of credit for Drew Brees being
a Hall of Famer, rightfully so, but Russell Wilson he inherited.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We know it didn't go well.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Now he goes after bow Nicks, the guy that some
people thought Mike get out of the first round. He
drafts him in the top fifteen. I would argue call
him that if things don't go really well with bow Knicks,
especially early, that you could probably say Sean Payton's career
or his resume takes a pretty drastic turn. There's a
lot of pressure on this to work because he went
and said bo Nix.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Is my guy.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I'm gonna shape him to be the next row.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't believe that because I think rookie quarterbacks all struggle,
and Rerew Luck did Manning, all of them struggle. This
is a rich ownership group. They're not hand to mouth
here in it for the long richest owners in the NFL.
He's won a Super Bowl. He's an offensive coach. I
can see bailing on a defensive coach that feels like
over his skis or a hacket, a young coach that's
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still a ready. You're not gonna bail on Sean Payton.
They're gonna give this time and again, I don't believe
bo nicks it with sixty one college starts. He may
not win ten games. He's not gonna be over his skis. Like,
he can move, he can throw, he's smart. They'll look functional,
they may not be great, but you're not gonna You're
(30:31):
not gonna fire a guy if in year two we're
really functional. We just keep losing to the Chiefs and
Jim Harbaugh and you know, I mean, we're losing to
the teams we should lose to. Now, I look at
that schedule and I see a seven to ten, eight
nine team that's not a playoff team, but it's very
close week after week.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
I wait, if they hit on their edge rusher in college, Yeah,
we'll say the folks in the desert five and a half.
That feels that does feel a little low.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
Well, he's been in the news for the last six months,
dominating college basketball, up for the Lakers gig. People are saying, wow,
thee leverage play Danny Hurley. Well, I don't know Danny
that well, but there's not a lot of bs from
what I know and what I hear, so I my
takeaway was, you wouldn't have wasted your time in the
(32:44):
middle of recruiting to fly out to Lave even if
you got a nice shrimp bigger. My takeaway was that
you were interested in the job, that you wanted the
job take me to what was going through your head
when you flew out of LA back home to Connecticut.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
I was really excited about the job. I mean for
us right now. You know, we're we've started practice with
our you know, with our current team that's going to
go for potentially a three p you know, we're also
you know in the you know, heating up in a
really really critical time for like recruiting, you know, the
the rising seniors in high school. So you know that
(33:26):
this was not a great time for me, you know,
to to mess around or to go for a leverage play.
I already had the leverage back to back, back to
back national championships, and you know the way that we're
doing it, uh and putting players in the n b
A and and our culture and the way we play ball.
(33:47):
I mean, that's that that's my leverage for me, you know,
getting a chance to me Rob Polanka the last couple
of years. Last year's draft, they really like Jordan Hawkins,
So you got a chance to get to know Rob
really the last you know, two drafts, you know, because
we've had prospects and I've just been super impressed with him,
(34:09):
and obviously the opportunity to you know, coach, you know,
one of the biggest brands in all of the sports
landscape in the entire world. For somebody that loves basketball
was something that you know, I really owed it to
myself and my family to consider.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Listen, I I had told, I said on the air
sixty five thirty five, he's considering it. But I lived
in Connecticut. It's family, it's church as tradition, it's Yukon basketball.
I said, this is this is a hard place to leave.
But when I saw you at the Billy Joel concert
with your wife, I'm like, come on, come on that
that come on and not leaving that I lived out there,
(34:48):
Like that's part of like New York, Connecticut. When you
when I want to literally go to the Billy Joel
concert because I don't think you've made your mind up yet.
I don't think you'd made your mind up. I know
you're putting your hands in your face, but I'm sitting
there thinking, that's three hours with his wife. That is
that is Connecticut, that is New York. I mean, honestly,
I I literally thought to myself, if he was on
(35:10):
the fence, he's driving home tonight. I don't know if
he can leave that, am I do I sound crazy
saying this.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
Yeah, it was a nice break for me, you know
because on Monday of that week, I really had, you know,
things with the with the Lakers had had started to
heat up, and then you know, the WOJ bomb dropped
on Thursday, and you know that that that my whole
life and our whole family, and and what that meant
(35:41):
in terms of the intensity of the situation went through
the roof for me. I mean, it was everywhere man
like in the media, and it's all people are talking about,
and I couldn't really go anywhere around here, you know,
they getting on the plane and meeting Jeanie Buss and
being blown away by her and everyone with the Lakers
(36:03):
and the whole opportunity, I needed like a mental break.
And then like Cooper, Cooper, you know, appreciate you. I
hope you have a great year, hope to meet you
in the final four next year. But we had to
cancel of going to a Billy Joel concert last September
to accommodate Cooper and Kelly and his family for an
(36:24):
official visit. And as big a moment it was in
my career to make a huge decision. I was not
missing Billy Joel one of his last concerts at the Garden.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, you know, I said this. You know, Coach k
was offered a big job in the NBA Laker job,
but he decided to stay at Duke and then coach
the Olympic team. So you get some of the flavor.
And to me, it's like, oh, that's really smart that
you get the relationships, you get the I mean, you
get to be around the world's best players, which is
(36:56):
I think guys like you intellectually need that. You need
to be challenged because obviously from your career you're in
a sending coach. Is it possible if the Olympic team
came to you over time and said, hey, we want
you to run this thing, that that would be enough, Danny,
that would be enough to serve that because I get
the itch, Saban, had it spur your hat it, I
(37:18):
get the itch. Could that potentially down the road be
the itch?
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah? I mean not.
Speaker 12 (37:24):
That would be an incredible honor, right, The greatest honor,
and you know in coaching, would be to represent your
country with USA Basketball. And that really the poll was
the opportunity the Lakers uh, not necessarily LA but coaching
the Lakers, coaching Lebron James, you know, Anthony Davis, like
(37:47):
the coaching Lebron, Like the opportunity to coach one of
the greatest players of all time, what that would look like,
the challenge of doing that, how hard you would have
to work, the level of ex fertise, the relationship building
that you would have to bring to that position to
make it work with one of the smartest players and
(38:07):
the greatest players. Made it something that was drawing me
to the job, not not away from the job, but
you know, for me in the end, you know, the
impact that you can have on eighteen, nineteen year old
twenty year olds, you know, the fulfillment that you get from,
you know, being a part of you know, the last
group of people that could maybe change the lives of young.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
People, you know.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
And then the opportunity obviously to come back to a
place and to do something that hasn't been done, you
know since John Wooden and those great UCLA teams, The
chance to go for history, you know, and what you
mean to the state of Connecticut and Yukon as a whole.
And then all the family considerations as well, just there's
too many things that.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Kept me here.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Finally, about a minute left, did you talk to Lebron?
I mean, obviously Lebron's the greatest basketball player in twenty years.
You talk or text or anything.
Speaker 12 (38:59):
We had some text messages and you know he uh,
you know, incredible uh you know, message from him over
the course of the weekend just just uh, you know,
talking about talking about basketball and and and some different
things and and and letting me know, uh you know
that you know that that if he was there in
(39:21):
LA that I have his support and uh just like
think about that man like that. That blew my mind.
And and then we we we got into a text exchange,
and then the exchange even even went through h to
when uh, when I chose to go in another direction.
So uh, you know, it blew my mind when I
(39:42):
when you get a text message from Lebron.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
James, Hey, it's great seeing you kick button recruiting. I'm
a huge fan and uh give your best of the fam.
Thanks for coming on the show and Thursday, Coach, I appreciate.
Speaker 12 (39:55):
It, appreciate you. Miss you hare Connecticut brother.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
All Right, Dan Hurley, the Great Dan Hurley fourteen years
as a coach, two national titles, a great basketball family.
And I'll tell you I saw when I saw he
and his wife at the Billy Joel concert and knowing
how big of a deal, I think it was the
last Billy Joel concert. I just thought to myself, people
don't understand I had the great honor to work right
(40:19):
in Boston, New York area, the New England region. I
considered it really the growth period of my life. I
had my kids, put them in great schools. The people
are amazing, tradition matters. I'm somebody that's bounced all over
the country, and it was the most bedrock foundational place
I'd ever lived. People grow up there, they stay there.
(40:40):
They vacation at Cape Cod, they go to Martha's, even
vacation in the area. The prep schools, the tradition, the churches,
the camps. It's hard for a lot of West Coast
people to understand the depth of the East Coast, and
I love it. I think it's a I still spend
(41:01):
a lot of my time in the summers I go
back East. I think it's the most beautiful place I've
ever been to in my life, especially in the summers
and the falls. It's glorious, but there's a depth. It's
not wider, it's deeper. In the East. It's about your grandpa,
your dad, the business, the church, the camp, your friends.
People out west tend to be sort of live and
(41:23):
let live a little more flexible and amenable to change.
That's good too, That's probably what I am. But I
look at that Billy Joel Concert, I'm like, man, I
know that those events. It's hard to pull yourself away
from stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
You know that you live in Connecticut now, yeah, and
it's unbelievable what he means to that state. You know,
He's stores has been completely rejuvenated in a post Calhoun,
even Kevin Ollie world because of this man.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
It's very hard to leave that behind.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Good stuff. Dan Hurley delivers as Oh it's Rachel Nichols.
Joel Klatt stopping by today as well. Got a good show.
Jordan Schultz is in. Jamak has an assignment today and
we understand that. And so Jamak has gone today. He
will return tomorrow with Alex Curry, and Jordan just flies out.
Hopefully it's on our company's dime. Fly here, fly there.
(42:13):
It's just the one day stop. Love to have him
our two neck
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