June 15, 2024 • 22 mins
Where Colin was right and where he was wrong
The top 10 NBA head coaching jobs
UConn head coach Dan Hurley joins the show to talk about his decision to stay with the Huskies and refuse the offer from the Lakers to become their next head coach
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right, here we go, Where Colin was wrong, Where
Colin was right, Where Colin was right. I like Jason
Tatum a lot, but I've pushed back that he's a
top three or four player. Listen, he took a back
seat in the Eastern Conference finals to Jalen Brown. He's
taking a back seat to Porzingers and Drew Holiday in
the finals. Again. I can like him, and I like
him a lot. He's collaborative, he's smart, he plays on
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both ends. He fills the box score. But he is
shooting thirty one percent in two games. And I do
like my number one, and he's going to get a
max deal. I want him to be my closer. I
don't want Porzingis or Drew Holliday or Jalen Brown being
my closer. Again, I like Jason Tatum. I'd signed Jason Tatum.
This finals is kind of what I've been talking about
(01:07):
for the last month.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Where Colin was row Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Irving, I thought he arrived, he hasn't. I do think
Boston's crowds a little bit in his head. He's done
a little bit more Kyrie Iso ball. The MAVs are
minus twenty two when he's on the floor. I just
don't like what I see from the offense for Dallas.
It doesn't feel as symmetrical or as balanced. It's a
little Iso stuff. I thought they had a real chance
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in this series. They without Kyrie's scoring, looked completely overwhelmed.
Where Colin was right, we said though, when they got
Drew Holliday and christophs Porzingis, we said, we have the date.
Oh my, how did they get these guys? Porzingis went
to Washington and really turned into an All star level player.
(01:53):
He's the first Unicorn, not chet Holm, Denner Wemby, and
you're seeing his length on defense, his off intive viability
and dexterity on offense. Brad Stevens knew the truth, I
need another go to score on this roster, and they
got it. Where Colin was raw, I thought the Yankees
would clean up on the Dodgers. They came into this
(02:15):
series on fire, and the Dodgers didn't. The back end
of their order was struggling. They had been six and
four in their last ten and Taoscar Hernandez had quite
a weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Down A tow to two from Kanelee, Hernandez lifts a
fly ball, a left center field back goes for Dugo
running out of room. Good Bye, Gran slam ti Oscar Hernandez,
Dodgers loaning center stores.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In the weekend, Dodgers looked more refined, more polished. Yankee
struggled at times defensively.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I keep saying women's basketball guys, come on, how did
you make Caitlin Clark's WNBA schedule so rigorous in the
first month and put her on the Olympic team? Bryce Harper,
Connor McGregor. When you get these stars, you know Tiger
(03:16):
Woods comes to the tour, get him on television. I
don't think she's one of the twelve fifteen best players,
but I would argue Jalen Brown's not on the men's
Olympics team. I think he's one of the top fifteen players.
She is television gold the Olympics have always been at
the back end of a roster. Political I think it's
a miss where Colin was right. I like JJ McCarthy
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out of Michigan, but I thought he was a prospect
that needed to sit. And according to stories from Jeremy
Kevin Seffert my bad at ESPN, he is a clear
backup to Sam Darnold at this point. For the record,
the last two coaches that signed Donald Kyle Shanahan and
(04:00):
Kevin O'Connell. Darnold is still viewed in the league as
a really talented guy that can start, and Kevin O'Connell
sees McCarthy for what he is, a little small and
rough around the edges. We were right where Colin was
raw a report that Zach Wilson's in the mix to
start for the Broncos. What I liked him as a backup.
(04:22):
I like that he moved west. He's beating out bo Nicks.
I'll just take a wrong on that and move on.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
We said the NFL's always treated their sport more than
any league like a TV show. They announced the Bears
Texans will kick off the Hall of Fame game August first.
This is a smart move. Caleb Williams front and center.
The Bears may be forgotten by some, but they remain
(04:51):
an incredible television product. The minute the Bears are good
and Chicago is in and watching, it's like the Kansas
City Chiefs. Something about football in Middle America that works.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We said the pitchclock would make baseball infinitely more watchable.
Have you seen the baseball ratings at Fox up twenty
five percent? Have you seen the baseball ratings at the
other place up twenty percent? Baseball didn't listen to their
die hards. They have done two things in the last
couple of years that have paid off. Pitchclock speed the
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game up, and they've created some baseball events. Phillies Mets
in London. It's an event. It felt huge. The camera,
the home plate umpire camera just keeps getting better and better.
Baseball felt big this weekend, and it felt fast. The game,
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the pitch clock infinitely more watchable. You're seeing attendance for
the second straight year and ratings on the NASH broadcasts
up up, up. Sometimes you gotta listen to the casuals,
not the diehards.
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Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know Jay Mack. Yesterday we made a little prediction
during the show that Dan Hurley would pass on the
Lakers job. And in the NFL, it's a good job
if you have a star quarterback. I mean, there's a
lot of questions about the Chargers, right they got Herbert
Harbaugh's life. I'll take that shot. In baseball, Dodgers, Yankees, Braves,
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you got a big salary. You can pay for a
lot of good players. We watch Soto for a year,
John Carlos Stanton and Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole. So
in baseball, are you flush with cash? It's a good gig.
In the NFL, do you have a star quarterback, it's
a good gig. NBA's different, Well, NBA jobs are different.
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Do you not only have a star, but do you
have the right star? Plays on both ends, easy to
play with, committed, good guy. Do you have a good
front office or do you have crazy ownership? So I
was Sam this morning. We were talking amongst ourselves and
I said this should be a topic. Oh yeah, I'll
give you the top ten what I consider jobs everything considered.
(07:25):
Now I'm going to consider your stars, your draft capital,
the quality of the city, your ownership, everything. You've done
a lot of lists since I joined the show.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I have taken a sneak peek at this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
This is your craziest list.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I believe this is the wildest list you've ever done
since I've joined the show.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, now, remember, NFL is about quarterback. Baseball is about
your financial wherewithal. You don't want to be with the A's, No,
I don't care. I don't care how nice everybody is.
You want to be with the Yankees, Dodgers, maybe the Astros, Braves. Right,
you're ready to go. Top ten NBA coaching job, Yes,
(08:02):
I am all right, Number ones, the Celtics. It's the
best roster, great gm, committed owners, they know what they're
doing with the draft picks. I mean, Brad Stevens is
making the move. How did in the world that he'd
make this roster. Nobody in the NBA's got a roster
with this many good veteran players. That's a really good job.
And the ownership, hands off, great front office. Tatum's going
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to be under contract Brown already is. That's the best
job in the league. Second le Denver, I got Stan Kronk,
a hands off owner, richest NBA owner first or second.
I got the best player in the league who's never hurt,
easy to play with. I got all my core under contract.
Only Jamal Murray has a little bit of an injury
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history supporting cast under contract. That's number two. Number three
the Mavericks. They have Luca. They're a surprisingly popular team
in a football state. They were second in the NBA
in a tendance. Flush with cash. They've got Luca and
rim protectors and a great young big they don't have
to pay for years, has a That's a pretty good gig.
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I mean, Luca has one man team this thing to
the finals mostly. Kyrie's had a lot of bad nights.
Number four is Miami. I get a coach. They had
a couple of good draft picks in the last couple
of years. My core group Jimmy Bam and Tyler Herro
under contract, great general manager, very popular free agent market,
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no state tax. California's got thirteen point three percent. Florida's
got zero aqua water in a winter league. It's the
warmest place in America. That is a great gig. I wish,
I wish they had one more star, but that's a
great gig. Number five Minnesota, I get ant. I'm sorry,
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but he'll be the face of the league by this
time next year. Potentially they have a superstar player. They
have a great general manager who built Denver left and
then built a Minnesota team.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
To beat Denver.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
They got a little bit of an ownership issue that
worries me, but I would put I put in Minnesota
there at five.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Number six.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's not a great market. Not everybody. You're gonna struggle
with free agents. But I'd say Oklahoma City, one of
the youngest teams in the league. Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams,
Lou dort All under twenty six, you got SGA, chet Holmgren,
you got growth. They're only getting better tons of draft capital.
One of the sharp young gms in the sport. Sam Presty. Again,
you're not gonna outbid people all lot of times in
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it's like the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers is
a great job as a head coach. Is it the
best job? Limitations on free agency? Probably not, but it's
a great job. Okay, see is the Green Bay Packers
without the titles yet in the NBA. It's a really
good job. After that, I'd say the Knicks. James Dolan
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has removed himself. Over the last several years he was
building these the music venue, the sphere in Vegas. He
removed himself. Competent front office, great Cora of Villanova guys.
Jalen Brunson's the best quarterback in the city. That includes
the Jets and the Giants. Like the direction. Also, they're
in the East, They're not in the West. They're in
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the East. That matters. Take out Boston. They can beat anybody.
Eight Milwaukee they got Giannis, high end talent now downside.
Oldest team in the league, so they got to make
some moves. They don't have a lot of draft capital.
That's why it's only eight. Number nine. The Spurs, Okay,
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they got Wemby.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
They don't have anything else and they've got you know,
let's be honest, older ownership group. There are multiple ways
to build around Wemby, But right now, Okc's got draft
capital and three or four really good young players. They
got Wemby and nothing else. And also San Antonio is
not the greatest free agent market. Guys tend will like
to be in cities, and number ten hit'st the Warriors.
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I still have staph. They found the next play Thompson
in the draft last year. NBA legends excellent ownership, ownership
willing to blow through the cap. Mike Dunleaby Junior appears
to be a combinant general manager. Those are your top ten.
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, he's been in the news for the last six months,
dominating college basketball, up for the Lakers gig. People are saying, wow,
se leverage play Danny Hurley. Well, I don't know Danny
that well, but there's not a lot of bs from
what I know and what I hear, so I my
takeaway was, you wouldn't have wasted your time in the
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middle of recruiting to fly out to LA even if
you got a nice shrimp bigger. My takeaway was that
you were interested in the job that you wanted the job.
Take to what was going through your head when you
flew out of LA back home to Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I was. I was really excited about the job.
I mean for us right now, you know, we're we've
started practice with our you know, with our current team
that's going to go for potentially a three p you know,
we're also you know in the you know, heating up
in a really really critical time for like recruiting, you know,
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the the rising seniors in high school. So you know
that this was not a great time for me, you know,
to mess around or to go for a leverage play.
I already had the leverage back to back, back to
back national championships, and you know the way that we're
doing it, uh and putting players in the n b
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A and and our culture and the way we play ball.
I mean, that's that that's my leverage for me, you know,
getting a chance to me Rob Polanka the last couple
of year years. Last year's draft, they really like Jordan Hawkins,
So you've got a chance to get to know Rob
really the last you know, two drafts, you know, because
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we've had prospects and I've just been super impressed with
him and obviously, the opportunity to you know, coach, you know,
one of the biggest brands in all of the sports
landscape in the entire world for somebody that loves basketball
was something that you know, I really owed it to
myself and my family to consider.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Listen, I I had told, I said on the air
sixty five thirty five, he's considering it. But I lived
in Connecticut. It's family, it's church at Tradition, it's Yukon basketball.
I said, this is this is a hard place to leave.
But when I saw you at the Billy Joel concert
with your wife, I'm like, come on, come on that
that come on and not leaving that I lived out there,
(15:52):
Like that's part of like New York, Connecticut. When you
when I want to literally go to the Billy Joel
concert because I don't think you've made your mind up yet.
I don't think you'd made your mind up. I know
you're putting your hands in your face, but I'm sitting
there thinking, that's three hours with his wife. That is
that is Connecticut, that is New York. I mean, honestly,
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I I literally thought to myself, if he was on
the fence, he's driving home tonight. I don't know if
he can leave that, am I do I sound crazy
saying this.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, it was a nice break for me, you know,
because on Monday of that week, I really had, you know,
things with the with the Lakers had had started to
heat up, and then you know, the WOJ bomb dropped
on Thursday, and you know that that that my whole
life and our whole family, and and what that meant
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in terms of the intensity of the situation went through
the roof for me. I mean, it was everywhere man
like in the media, and it's all people are talking about.
And I couldn't really go anywhere around here, you know,
I didn't getting on the plane and meeting Jeanie Buss
and being blown away by her and everyone with the
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Lakers and the whole opportunity, I needed like a mental break.
And then like Cooper flat you know, Cooper, you know,
appreciate you. I hope you have a great year. Hope
to meet you in the final four next year. But
we had to cancel of going to a Billy Joel
concert last September to accommodate Cooper and Kelly and his
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family for an official visit and as big a moment
it was in my career to make a huge decision.
I was not missing Billy Joel one of his last
concerts at the Garden.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, you know, I said this. You know, Coach k
was offered a big job in the NBA Laker job,
but he decided to stay at Duke and then coach
the Olympic team. So you get some of the flavor.
And to me, it's like, oh, that's really smart that
you get the relationships, you get the I mean, you
get to be around the world's best place players, which
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is I think guys like you intellectually need that. You
need to be challenged because obviously from your career you're
in a sending coach. Is it possible if the Olympic
team came to you over time and said, hey, we
want you to run this thing, that that would be enough, Danny,
that would be enough to serve that because I get
the itch, Saban had it, Spurrier had it. I get
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the itch. Could that potentially down the road be the itch?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah? I mean that would be an incredible honor, right,
The greatest honor, and you know in coaching, would be
to represent your country with USA Basketball, And that really
the poll. Was the opportunity that the Lakers, uh not
necessarily La but coaching the Lakers, coaching Lebron James, you know,
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Anthony Davis like coaching Lebron, Like the opportunity to coach
one of the greatest players of all time. What that
would look like, The challenge of doing that, how hard
you would have to work, the level of expertise, the
relationship building that you would have to bring to that
position to make it work with one of the smartest
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players and the greatest players. Made it something that was
drawing me to the job, not not away from the job,
but you know, for me in the end, you know,
the impact that you can have on eighteen, nineteen year
old twenty year olds, you know, the fulfillment that you
get from, you know, being a part of you know,
the last group of people that could maybe change the
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lives of young people, you know. And then the opportunity
obviously to come back to a place and to do
something that hasn't been done, you know since John Wooden
and those great UCLA teams, The chance to go for history,
you know, and what you mean to the state of
Connecticut and Yukon as a whole. And then all the
family considerations as well. Just there's too many things that
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kept me here.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Finally, about a minute left, did you talk to Lebron?
I mean, obviously Lebron's the greatest basketball player in twenty years,
you talk or text or anything.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
We had some text messages and you know he uh,
you know, incredible uh you know, message from him over
the course of the weekend just just uh, you know,
talking about talking about basketball and and and some different
things and and and letting me know, uh you know
that you know that that if he was there in
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LA then I have his support and uh just like
think about that man like that. That blew my mind.
And and then we we we got into a text exchange,
and then the exchange even even went through to when uh,
when I chose to go in another direction. So uh,
you know, it blew my mind when I when you
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get a text message from Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
James, Hey, it's great seeing you kick button recruiting. I'm
a huge fan and uh give your best of the fam.
Thanks for coming on the show and Thursday coach, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Appreciate you. Mission hare in Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Brother all right, Dan Hurley, the Great Dan Hurley fourteen
years as a coach, two national titles, a great basketball family.
And I'll tell you when I saw he and his
wife at the Billy Joel concert and knowing how big
of a deal, I think it was the last Billy
Joel concert. I just thought to myself, people don't understand
I had the great honor to work right in Boston,
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New York area, the New England region. I considered it
really the growth period of my life. I had my kids,
put them in great schools. The people are amazing, tradition matters.
I'm somebody that's bounced all over the country and it
was the most bedrock foundational place I'd ever lived. People
grow up there, they stay there. They vacation at Cape Cod,
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they go to Martha's Va, even vacation in the area.
The prep schools, the tradition, the churches, the camps. It's
hard for a lot of West Coast people to understand
the depth of the East Coast, and I love it.
I think it's amazing. I still spend a lot of
my time in the summers I go back East. I
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think it's the most beautiful place I've ever been to
in my life, especially in the summers. And the falls.
It's glorious, but there's a depth. It's not wider, it's deeper.
In the East, it's about your grandpa, your dad, the business,
the church, the camp, your friends. People out west tend
to be sort of live and let live a little
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more flexible and amenable to change. That's good too, That's
probably what I am. But I look at that Billy
Joel Concert, I'm like, man, I know that those events.
It's hard to pull yourself away from stuff like that.
You know that you live in Connecticut.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Now, Yeah, and it's unbelievable what he means to that state.
You know, He's stores has been completely rejuvenated in a
post Calhoun, even Kevin Ollie world because of this man.
It's very hard to leave that behind.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Dan Hurley delivers as olways
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right, here we go, Where Colin was wrong, Where
Colin was right, Where Colin was right. I like Jason
Tatum a lot, but I've pushed back that he's a
top three or four player. Listen, he took a back
seat in the Eastern Conference finals to Jalen Brown. He's
taking a back seat to Porzingers and Drew Holiday in
the finals. Again. I can like him, and I like
him a lot. He's collaborative, he's smart, he plays on
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both ends. He fills the box score. But he is
shooting thirty one percent in two games. And I do
like my number one, and he's going to get a
max deal. I want him to be my closer. I
don't want Porzingis or Drew Holliday or Jalen Brown being
my closer. Again, I like Jason Tatum. I'd signed Jason Tatum.
This finals is kind of what I've been talking about
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for the last month.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Where Colin was row Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Irving, I thought he arrived, he hasn't. I do think
Boston's crowds a little bit in his head. He's done
a little bit more Kyrie Iso ball. The MAVs are
minus twenty two when he's on the floor. I just
don't like what I see from the offense for Dallas.
It doesn't feel as symmetrical or as balanced. It's a
little Iso stuff. I thought they had a real chance
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in this series. They without Kyrie's scoring, looked completely overwhelmed.
Where Colin was right, we said though, when they got
Drew Holliday and christophs Porzingis, we said, we have the date.
Oh my, how did they get these guys? Porzingis went
to Washington and really turned into an All star level player.
(01:53):
He's the first Unicorn, not chet Holm, Denner Wemby, and
you're seeing his length on defense, his off intive viability
and dexterity on offense. Brad Stevens knew the truth, I
need another go to score on this roster, and they
got it. Where Colin was raw, I thought the Yankees
would clean up on the Dodgers. They came into this
(02:15):
series on fire, and the Dodgers didn't. The back end
of their order was struggling. They had been six and
four in their last ten and Taoscar Hernandez had quite
a weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Down A tow to two from Kanelee, Hernandez lifts a
fly ball, a left center field back goes for Dugo
running out of room. Good Bye, Gran slam ti Oscar Hernandez,
Dodgers loaning center stores.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In the weekend, Dodgers looked more refined, more polished. Yankee
struggled at times defensively.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I keep saying women's basketball guys, come on, how did
you make Caitlin Clark's WNBA schedule so rigorous in the
first month and put her on the Olympic team? Bryce Harper,
Connor McGregor. When you get these stars, you know Tiger
(03:16):
Woods comes to the tour, get him on television. I
don't think she's one of the twelve fifteen best players,
but I would argue Jalen Brown's not on the men's
Olympics team. I think he's one of the top fifteen players.
She is television gold the Olympics have always been at
the back end of a roster. Political I think it's
a miss where Colin was right. I like JJ McCarthy
(03:39):
out of Michigan, but I thought he was a prospect
that needed to sit. And according to stories from Jeremy
Kevin Seffert my bad at ESPN, he is a clear
backup to Sam Darnold at this point. For the record,
the last two coaches that signed Donald Kyle Shanahan and
(04:00):
Kevin O'Connell. Darnold is still viewed in the league as
a really talented guy that can start, and Kevin O'Connell
sees McCarthy for what he is, a little small and
rough around the edges. We were right where Colin was
raw a report that Zach Wilson's in the mix to
start for the Broncos. What I liked him as a backup.
(04:22):
I like that he moved west. He's beating out bo Nicks.
I'll just take a wrong on that and move on.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
We said the NFL's always treated their sport more than
any league like a TV show. They announced the Bears
Texans will kick off the Hall of Fame game August first.
This is a smart move. Caleb Williams front and center.
The Bears may be forgotten by some, but they remain
(04:51):
an incredible television product. The minute the Bears are good
and Chicago is in and watching, it's like the Kansas
City Chiefs. Something about football in Middle America that works.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We said the pitchclock would make baseball infinitely more watchable.
Have you seen the baseball ratings at Fox up twenty
five percent? Have you seen the baseball ratings at the
other place up twenty percent? Baseball didn't listen to their
die hards. They have done two things in the last
couple of years that have paid off. Pitchclock speed the
(05:30):
game up, and they've created some baseball events. Phillies Mets
in London. It's an event. It felt huge. The camera,
the home plate umpire camera just keeps getting better and better.
Baseball felt big this weekend, and it felt fast. The game,
(05:52):
the pitch clock infinitely more watchable. You're seeing attendance for
the second straight year and ratings on the NASH broadcasts
up up, up. Sometimes you gotta listen to the casuals,
not the diehards.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
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Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know Jay Mack. Yesterday we made a little prediction
during the show that Dan Hurley would pass on the
Lakers job. And in the NFL, it's a good job
if you have a star quarterback. I mean, there's a
lot of questions about the Chargers, right they got Herbert
Harbaugh's life. I'll take that shot. In baseball, Dodgers, Yankees, Braves,
(06:39):
you got a big salary. You can pay for a
lot of good players. We watch Soto for a year,
John Carlos Stanton and Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole. So
in baseball, are you flush with cash? It's a good gig.
In the NFL, do you have a star quarterback, it's
a good gig. NBA's different, Well, NBA jobs are different.
(07:02):
Do you not only have a star, but do you
have the right star? Plays on both ends, easy to
play with, committed, good guy. Do you have a good
front office or do you have crazy ownership? So I
was Sam this morning. We were talking amongst ourselves and
I said this should be a topic. Oh yeah, I'll
give you the top ten what I consider jobs everything considered.
(07:25):
Now I'm going to consider your stars, your draft capital,
the quality of the city, your ownership, everything. You've done
a lot of lists since I joined the show.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I have taken a sneak peek at this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
This is your craziest list.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I believe this is the wildest list you've ever done
since I've joined the show.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, now, remember, NFL is about quarterback. Baseball is about
your financial wherewithal. You don't want to be with the A's, No,
I don't care. I don't care how nice everybody is.
You want to be with the Yankees, Dodgers, maybe the Astros, Braves. Right,
you're ready to go. Top ten NBA coaching job, Yes,
(08:02):
I am all right, Number ones, the Celtics. It's the
best roster, great gm, committed owners, they know what they're
doing with the draft picks. I mean, Brad Stevens is
making the move. How did in the world that he'd
make this roster. Nobody in the NBA's got a roster
with this many good veteran players. That's a really good job.
And the ownership, hands off, great front office. Tatum's going
(08:26):
to be under contract Brown already is. That's the best
job in the league. Second le Denver, I got Stan Kronk,
a hands off owner, richest NBA owner first or second.
I got the best player in the league who's never hurt,
easy to play with. I got all my core under contract.
Only Jamal Murray has a little bit of an injury
(08:48):
history supporting cast under contract. That's number two. Number three
the Mavericks. They have Luca. They're a surprisingly popular team
in a football state. They were second in the NBA
in a tendance. Flush with cash. They've got Luca and
rim protectors and a great young big they don't have
to pay for years, has a That's a pretty good gig.
(09:08):
I mean, Luca has one man team this thing to
the finals mostly. Kyrie's had a lot of bad nights.
Number four is Miami. I get a coach. They had
a couple of good draft picks in the last couple
of years. My core group Jimmy Bam and Tyler Herro
under contract, great general manager, very popular free agent market,
(09:30):
no state tax. California's got thirteen point three percent. Florida's
got zero aqua water in a winter league. It's the
warmest place in America. That is a great gig. I wish,
I wish they had one more star, but that's a
great gig. Number five Minnesota, I get ant. I'm sorry,
(09:50):
but he'll be the face of the league by this
time next year. Potentially they have a superstar player. They
have a great general manager who built Denver left and
then built a Minnesota team.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
To beat Denver.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
They got a little bit of an ownership issue that
worries me, but I would put I put in Minnesota
there at five.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Number six.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's not a great market. Not everybody. You're gonna struggle
with free agents. But I'd say Oklahoma City, one of
the youngest teams in the league. Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams,
Lou dort All under twenty six, you got SGA, chet Holmgren,
you got growth. They're only getting better tons of draft capital.
One of the sharp young gms in the sport. Sam Presty. Again,
you're not gonna outbid people all lot of times in
(10:32):
it's like the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers is
a great job as a head coach. Is it the
best job? Limitations on free agency? Probably not, but it's
a great job. Okay, see is the Green Bay Packers
without the titles yet in the NBA. It's a really
good job. After that, I'd say the Knicks. James Dolan
(10:54):
has removed himself. Over the last several years he was
building these the music venue, the sphere in Vegas. He
removed himself. Competent front office, great Cora of Villanova guys.
Jalen Brunson's the best quarterback in the city. That includes
the Jets and the Giants. Like the direction. Also, they're
in the East, They're not in the West. They're in
(11:15):
the East. That matters. Take out Boston. They can beat anybody.
Eight Milwaukee they got Giannis, high end talent now downside.
Oldest team in the league, so they got to make
some moves. They don't have a lot of draft capital.
That's why it's only eight. Number nine. The Spurs, Okay,
(11:37):
they got Wemby.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
They don't have anything else and they've got you know,
let's be honest, older ownership group. There are multiple ways
to build around Wemby, But right now, Okc's got draft
capital and three or four really good young players. They
got Wemby and nothing else. And also San Antonio is
not the greatest free agent market. Guys tend will like
to be in cities, and number ten hit'st the Warriors.
(12:02):
I still have staph. They found the next play Thompson
in the draft last year. NBA legends excellent ownership, ownership
willing to blow through the cap. Mike Dunleaby Junior appears
to be a combinant general manager. Those are your top ten.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
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and noon Eastern non a em Pacific.
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, he's been in the news for the last six months,
dominating college basketball, up for the Lakers gig. People are saying, wow,
se leverage play Danny Hurley. Well, I don't know Danny
that well, but there's not a lot of bs from
what I know and what I hear, so I my
takeaway was, you wouldn't have wasted your time in the
(13:49):
middle of recruiting to fly out to LA even if
you got a nice shrimp bigger. My takeaway was that
you were interested in the job that you wanted the job.
Take to what was going through your head when you
flew out of LA back home to Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I was. I was really excited about the job.
I mean for us right now, you know, we're we've
started practice with our you know, with our current team
that's going to go for potentially a three p you know,
we're also you know in the you know, heating up
in a really really critical time for like recruiting, you know,
(14:27):
the the rising seniors in high school. So you know
that this was not a great time for me, you know,
to mess around or to go for a leverage play.
I already had the leverage back to back, back to
back national championships, and you know the way that we're
doing it, uh and putting players in the n b
(14:48):
A and and our culture and the way we play ball.
I mean, that's that that's my leverage for me, you know,
getting a chance to me Rob Polanka the last couple
of year years. Last year's draft, they really like Jordan Hawkins,
So you've got a chance to get to know Rob
really the last you know, two drafts, you know, because
(15:10):
we've had prospects and I've just been super impressed with
him and obviously, the opportunity to you know, coach, you know,
one of the biggest brands in all of the sports
landscape in the entire world for somebody that loves basketball
was something that you know, I really owed it to
myself and my family to consider.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Listen, I I had told, I said on the air
sixty five thirty five, he's considering it. But I lived
in Connecticut. It's family, it's church at Tradition, it's Yukon basketball.
I said, this is this is a hard place to leave.
But when I saw you at the Billy Joel concert
with your wife, I'm like, come on, come on that
that come on and not leaving that I lived out there,
(15:52):
Like that's part of like New York, Connecticut. When you
when I want to literally go to the Billy Joel
concert because I don't think you've made your mind up yet.
I don't think you'd made your mind up. I know
you're putting your hands in your face, but I'm sitting
there thinking, that's three hours with his wife. That is
that is Connecticut, that is New York. I mean, honestly,
(16:13):
I I literally thought to myself, if he was on
the fence, he's driving home tonight. I don't know if
he can leave that, am I do I sound crazy
saying this.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, it was a nice break for me, you know,
because on Monday of that week, I really had, you know,
things with the with the Lakers had had started to
heat up, and then you know, the WOJ bomb dropped
on Thursday, and you know that that that my whole
life and our whole family, and and what that meant
(16:46):
in terms of the intensity of the situation went through
the roof for me. I mean, it was everywhere man
like in the media, and it's all people are talking about.
And I couldn't really go anywhere around here, you know,
I didn't getting on the plane and meeting Jeanie Buss
and being blown away by her and everyone with the
(17:07):
Lakers and the whole opportunity, I needed like a mental break.
And then like Cooper flat you know, Cooper, you know,
appreciate you. I hope you have a great year. Hope
to meet you in the final four next year. But
we had to cancel of going to a Billy Joel
concert last September to accommodate Cooper and Kelly and his
(17:28):
family for an official visit and as big a moment
it was in my career to make a huge decision.
I was not missing Billy Joel one of his last
concerts at the Garden.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, you know, I said this. You know, Coach k
was offered a big job in the NBA Laker job,
but he decided to stay at Duke and then coach
the Olympic team. So you get some of the flavor.
And to me, it's like, oh, that's really smart that
you get the relationships, you get the I mean, you
get to be around the world's best place players, which
(18:01):
is I think guys like you intellectually need that. You
need to be challenged because obviously from your career you're
in a sending coach. Is it possible if the Olympic
team came to you over time and said, hey, we
want you to run this thing, that that would be enough, Danny,
that would be enough to serve that because I get
the itch, Saban had it, Spurrier had it. I get
(18:23):
the itch. Could that potentially down the road be the itch?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah? I mean that would be an incredible honor, right,
The greatest honor, and you know in coaching, would be
to represent your country with USA Basketball, And that really
the poll. Was the opportunity that the Lakers, uh not
necessarily La but coaching the Lakers, coaching Lebron James, you know,
(18:51):
Anthony Davis like coaching Lebron, Like the opportunity to coach
one of the greatest players of all time. What that
would look like, The challenge of doing that, how hard
you would have to work, the level of expertise, the
relationship building that you would have to bring to that
position to make it work with one of the smartest
(19:12):
players and the greatest players. Made it something that was
drawing me to the job, not not away from the job,
but you know, for me in the end, you know,
the impact that you can have on eighteen, nineteen year
old twenty year olds, you know, the fulfillment that you
get from, you know, being a part of you know,
the last group of people that could maybe change the
(19:33):
lives of young people, you know. And then the opportunity
obviously to come back to a place and to do
something that hasn't been done, you know since John Wooden
and those great UCLA teams, The chance to go for history,
you know, and what you mean to the state of
Connecticut and Yukon as a whole. And then all the
family considerations as well. Just there's too many things that
(19:54):
kept me here.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Finally, about a minute left, did you talk to Lebron?
I mean, obviously Lebron's the greatest basketball player in twenty years,
you talk or text or anything.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
We had some text messages and you know he uh,
you know, incredible uh you know, message from him over
the course of the weekend just just uh, you know,
talking about talking about basketball and and and some different
things and and and letting me know, uh you know
that you know that that if he was there in
(20:26):
LA then I have his support and uh just like
think about that man like that. That blew my mind.
And and then we we we got into a text exchange,
and then the exchange even even went through to when uh,
when I chose to go in another direction. So uh,
you know, it blew my mind when I when you
(20:47):
get a text message from Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
James, Hey, it's great seeing you kick button recruiting. I'm
a huge fan and uh give your best of the fam.
Thanks for coming on the show and Thursday coach, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Appreciate you. Mission hare in Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Brother all right, Dan Hurley, the Great Dan Hurley fourteen
years as a coach, two national titles, a great basketball family.
And I'll tell you when I saw he and his
wife at the Billy Joel concert and knowing how big
of a deal, I think it was the last Billy
Joel concert. I just thought to myself, people don't understand
I had the great honor to work right in Boston,
(21:25):
New York area, the New England region. I considered it
really the growth period of my life. I had my kids,
put them in great schools. The people are amazing, tradition matters.
I'm somebody that's bounced all over the country and it
was the most bedrock foundational place I'd ever lived. People
grow up there, they stay there. They vacation at Cape Cod,
(21:48):
they go to Martha's Va, even vacation in the area.
The prep schools, the tradition, the churches, the camps. It's
hard for a lot of West Coast people to understand
the depth of the East Coast, and I love it.
I think it's amazing. I still spend a lot of
my time in the summers I go back East. I
(22:08):
think it's the most beautiful place I've ever been to
in my life, especially in the summers. And the falls.
It's glorious, but there's a depth. It's not wider, it's deeper.
In the East, it's about your grandpa, your dad, the business,
the church, the camp, your friends. People out west tend
to be sort of live and let live a little
(22:29):
more flexible and amenable to change. That's good too, That's
probably what I am. But I look at that Billy
Joel Concert, I'm like, man, I know that those events.
It's hard to pull yourself away from stuff like that.
You know that you live in Connecticut.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Now, Yeah, and it's unbelievable what he means to that state.
You know, He's stores has been completely rejuvenated in a
post Calhoun, even Kevin Ollie world because of this man.
It's very hard to leave that behind.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Dan Hurley delivers as olways
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