June 17, 2024 • 39 mins
John reacts to Bryson DeChambeau winning his 2nd U.S. Open and how he has turned his images from someone unlikable to someone that loves to engage with the fans during his rounds and is must-watch TV. Plus, Rory McIlroy choking away the US Open lead with a brutal missed putt on 18, less than three feet from hole.
6:26 - Bryson wins the US Open
13:51 - Bryson's must-watch TV
28:15 - Rory chokes
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What is going on? Everybody? Happy? Us open? That's what
this podcast will be. A little go low pod reacting
to Bryson d sham Bo winning at Pinehurst and Rory
McElroy choking missing a short putt on the eighteenth holl
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that would have forced a playoff. We will talk about
it all your boy Draftking partners here had a week,
so props to Bryson for getting that done. That was
sweet and Happy Father's Day. Happy belated Father's Day to
all you fathers out there. It's a tough day for
all of us that have lost our fathers. But it's
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always you know, Bryson talked about it after he won.
He lost his dad a couple of years ago, Fresno guy.
But it's always us open, always ends on Father's Day
as a powerful moment for sure for those of us
that love golfer, for those of us that love entertainment,
because that was Listen. If you like sports, I don't.
I don't know how you wouldn't enjoy that last couple
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hours of Rory and Bryson going toe to toe. Obviously,
Bryson wins a second major I would imagine Rory's gonna
be a major major storyline over the next forty eight hours.
That's a rough loss. That's a that's a rough l
that's one I don't know how you quite shake and listen,
there's no we'll talk about there's no guarantee that he
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would have won, but that that's that's tough. I mean,
that's reminiscent of some film moments. But it really this
tournament became a two horse race, two guys stealing all
the headlines, and basically became they weren't playing in the
same group, but essentially somewhat of a match play situation
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down the stretch, and Bryson found a way to get
it done, and he now has become I don't know
if he's the most popular American golfer. I don't really consider.
Tiger doesn't really play anymore. Phil Shot, I listened Scott.
He's playing the best if you factor in the last
several years. But Bryson's majors this year T six, second
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in the US Open, champion. He looks pretty good and
he is. He's much watch television. So we'll dive into
Brice and we'll dive into the ry debacle. Obviously, Pinehurst,
for anyone that's listening that has been, I'm jealous. Looks
like just an awesome place. Not easy. I don't know
if it'd be fun if you're not on Clearly normally
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it's not US Open conditions, but it showed out this
week and it was. It was dramatically different from the
major a month ago at Valhalla, which essentially was a
PGA tournament, which is Bertie's left and right. This one
did not look fun, did not look easy, didn't look
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enjoyable if you're just a normal golfer to attempt to play.
But it is very, very enjoyable to watch these all
time great players struggle to get parse and be excited
when they get parsed. So we'll dive into it all.
Hopefully everyone enjoyed it as much as I did, because
I throw Scotti Scheffer not so much. Feels like his
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worst tournament in years was nowhere to be found in
the leaderboard because he finished I think plus eight and
was nowhere ever in contention. So yeah, what a week.
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to nineteen ninety nine with Payne Stewart and Phil Mickelson
going at it, I guess the only difference here is
Rory and Bryson were not in the same group. Something
I think golf needs to figure out. Just you can
place whoever you want in the groups. Put Rory and
put Bryson in the same group. But we were lucky today.
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It didn't really matter much because Rory came out the
gate swinging Birdie's won and then gets just lightning hot.
He Birdi's nine, he bird, he's ten. He bird, He's twelve.
He birt's thirteen, and everyone on the internet was like,
he's up to with five to play. Well, Bryson still
had six to play because he was one behind. Then
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Bryson knocks it on thirteen, Birdie's that, and then, let's
face it, I hate using this term because golf's really hard.
I don't care if you're Rory McElroy or you're me
or you. It is a difficult sport. It's hard to
make putts. And we have seen some legendary choke jobs
in this sport. A couple of years ago at the
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PGA Championship when Justin Thomas won, Mito Pereira knocks it
in the water. The most legendary one of all time
is John Vanderveld in the Open when he I think
triples the last hole ends up going to a playoff.
But for Rory's standard, that was a choke job. He
blew it three putts sixteen, and then the putt on eighteen,
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and I thought Brandle nailed it. He said, listen to
the naked eye. That looks like a really good chip,
but that is the wrong spot to leave it. And meanwhile,
Bryson's probably one hundred and fifty yards behind him, under
a tree and against a root. You could tell Bryson
wasn't comfortable. He tried to get a ruling for a drop.
Thank god, the rules officials said you're not getting a drop,
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and he basically had to hit in a bunker, which
was gonna be. As he just said when he received
the trophy, it's the best shot of my life. And
for Rory to miss that putt, you almost knew it
was inevitable. He lost it right there. And listen, he's
had a chance over these last couple of years to
win a couple majors. You know, he lacc he did
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not make a putt. Same thing with the British Open
a couple of years ago when cam Smith won he
could not make a putt. That was not the case today.
I mean early on in the round he's draining putts.
Bryson bait essentially won the tournament the first three days
because he gave himself elite. He shoot sixty seven, sixty nine,
sixty seven as a three shot lead coming in today
and was able to just kind of hold his mud.
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It's not like he ran away with it. Hell, he
was celebrating incredible up and downs for Pars and once
Bryson knocked it on thirteen, You're like, Rory doesn't have
any margin foreer. And I'll be honest, I thought he
was gonna make it on eighteen, even though his feet
were kind of open. He was kind of lined up weird,
and that ball never had a chance. And then the
moment he missed and Bryson hits it in the bunker,
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You're like, Okay, we're going to a playoff now. Historically
the playoff has always been and there hasn't been a
playoff in the US Open since Tiger and Rocco. I
was like, okay, eighteen holes. We're getting eighteen holes tomorrow.
I'm a podcaster. I plan on watching it all. And
then Tarico chimes in it's now a two hole aggregate.
I'm like, okay, we get extra golf. I would imagine
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they just play seventeen and eighteen Rory de Chambeau, it's
gonna be incredible. And then Bryson, that bunker shot he
hit on eighteen was just freaking remarkable. I mean, once
he hit it that close, there was no way he
was missing that putt. And obviously he doesn't. He wins
his second US Open, And I don't think I can
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remember anyone in sports we've seen guys go the other way.
Someone that was really celebrated obviously had a you know,
let's use Lebron as an example. In Cleveland. He was
a rock star. He had the entire state of Ohio
behind him, and then when he left, he kind of
went full heel and everyone rooted against him. It's very
very rare. You see it baseball sometimes when guys leave teams.
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You know, we saw it back in the Yankees and
Red Sox hey day, when a guy would jump over.
This was the opposite. Bryson was not well liked. People
almost rooted against him. They thought he was a weird dude.
And you know, in the golfing world he had done
things to rub people the wrong way. Then he bulks
up like he's about to play defensive tackle in the NFL.
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And then he goes to live and he kind of
gets skinny, but he keeps hitting three hundred and fifty
three hundred and sixty yard drives that are still just
remarkable to And now he's fun and you know what
golf has really missed. And I said this when the
Live PGA Tour thing happened. One problem is golf just
has a bunch of likable guys, and in any sport,
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in any form of entertainment, you need to have people
that I like rooting for and people that I root against.
And then they took all those guys. But then somehow
Bryson comes storming back, feels like a completely different human being.
Has a YouTube channel that everyone I play golf with
or everyone I meet that follows golf, like, Hey, are
you watching Bryson's YouTube? It's a pretty big deal. It
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gets a lot of us. For example, Live last week
got under two hundred thousand people watching. He does two
hundred thousand people in five hours when he posts a
video on YouTube, and he's become really likable, and then
you watch this whole week how he's playing with the crowd.
One thing Tiger did a really good job of. Now
he was constantly in just these miraculous moments, partly because
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Tiger would spray it around and then have the craziest
up and downs you've ever seen. The fist pumps were
a huge part of Tiger's legend, his emotion. You could
feel them when you watched them. Obviously, his resume by
the mid two thousands was unlike anything we'd ever seen
beside Jack, but you felt his presence. Now. Tiger was
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not high fiven people in the gallery. He was not
pointing at the crowd. But when you saw him make
a big putt or have a big moment, he'd pimp
that shot a lot, like Bryson did on Whole seventeen.
Or he would do the crazy fist you know, up
and down, both arms go nuts, and that's what Bryson
was doing. You know why fans like that. It's entertaining,
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it's fun, and that's what Bryson has become. Fun. Scotty,
who had a bad week, is on one of the
greatest runs we've ever seen. There's not much emotion there.
You don't see much by far, not even close. The
most interesting thing that will probably ever happen to Scottie
on or off the course was getting arrested a month
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ago and going in the orange jumpsuit. But he's not
a big fist bumper. He's not a big you know,
lay it all out there when he does something awesome,
and Bryson's the opposite. And listen, whether you liked him
or you didn't. A couple of years ago when he's
on the screen. I remember when I was young and
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grew up a big San Franco Giants fan, and Barry
Bonds became very polarizing. Obviously, cream the clear, he looked
like Ray Lewis in his prime. But when he came
up to the plate, everyone stopped to watch. Whether you
hated him, whether you loved him, you had to see it.
And that's kind of what Bryson has become. You just
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got to watch, and then the more you watch, you
kind of find yourself rooting for him. Now, your boy
might have had a little parlay and might have just
won almost you know, twenty k. So I was definitely
invested in his success this weekend. But even if I
had no money on the guy, like a month ago
at the PGA, he was riveting TV. His whole operation
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is unlike anything we've ever seen. Yesterday, he's asked on
Saturday about how he soaks his golf balls in salt
water to find the balance and make sure none of
the golf balls are off. All of his irons are
the same length. Now sometimes he has like a nine
iron from two hundred yards and you realize, well, his
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the degrees on. His clubs are much different than basically
everyone on tour and every normal person that plays golf.
But you're like, what is going on? And he has
these crazy three d irons, He's playing these crazy rope draws.
But here's the thing about Bryson. He's not some golf
creation in a lab. This is one of the I
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would say, most talented golfers of his generation. He went
to SMU as a blue chip high school kid and
became a individual national champion in college. Then he won
the US Amateur. Now he's won multiple US Opens, and
before he went to live it's not like he had
never won. On the PGA Tour, he was winning. This
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guy's a winner. He's been a winner since he was
a young guy. This is a blue chip player, a
lot like Rory on elite talent as a youth and
has carry it through his career. And that's what we're
watching with Bryson. And you're seeing a guy right now
who is in the peak of his powers. If it
wasn't for a couple of bad chips at the Masters,
he would have been right in that thing. He finished
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tied for six. He easily could have won the PGA Championship.
If the PGA Championship would have been seventy five holes
and not seventy two holes, I think he would have won.
Even Xander admitted I wanted no part of a playoff
with Bryson. D Chambeau finished his second. Then he comes
to Pinehurst, which historically with Bryson, and you're like, you know,
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it's much more about placement. Short game putting doesn't quite
feel well. Here's the thing with Bryson. His short game
is awesome. I'm not saying he's Brad Faxon or Steve
Stricker with a putter in his hand, but you are
much more confident when that weird stick is in his
hand than you are with Rory McElroy. He is a
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fantastic putter, and you're seeing a guy right now who
hasn't figured out And listen, Scottie Scheffler is the best
player in the world this week. Remove it, but not debatable.
You could make a very easy argument that Bryson's the
second best player. I mean, Xander is having a fantastic year.
He is an elite player, won the PGA, finished his
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top ten here, He's in the mix every single week.
He's an elite player. Rory is awesome, Bryson is every
bit there equals and now what we're seeing is in
these big moments for all these guys with live you know,
here's the thing. For Kopka, it was awesome to watch
him win the PGA Championship last year and get his
fifth major. If I had to set the over under
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on Brooks Koepka's majors moving forward, I'd probably put it
at point five. Like I'm not expecting him to win
another one. If I had to put the over under
even Rory McElroy, Rory's going to win a major. I
feel very very confident on that. Is he gonna end
up with ten? Probably not, But is he more likely
to end up with six than he is where he
sits now at four? Yes, I don't know when he's
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gonna win it, but you put yourself in the mix
enough like he has several times in the last three years.
Right could have won at LAC, could have won a
British This was easily his best chance. He's gonna win it.
Bryson is winning it. Bryson did get it done. I'd
put his over under on majors for his career probably
around four and a half five and a half somewhere
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in that range, because Bryson, to me, feels like a
five to six major guy much more than he does
a two major guy. He's thirty years old now. The
health on Saturday, he's his hips give him problems because
of the way that he speed trains. But then you
watch him hit, You're like, it doesn't really look like
he's slowing down. It doesn't really look like it faces
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him and his touch around the greens. Obviously what he
did on eighteen out of the sand. If you put
the average like low handicap guy in that spot, I
think there's a pretty good chance most people end up
with double. They either blast the ball way over the
green or they hit it way short than they three
putt that that shot, And there was a shot earlier
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in the round was it whole ten where he left
it short of the bunker. And Brandle's like, this is
this is really freaking hard. Hit lob wedge like five
feet nails it for Bertie And so if you're telling
me a guy they can hit it three hundred and
fifty yards pretty easily. When it came to the driveable
thirteenth hole, Rory hit driver way over. Now he still
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ends up making Bertie. I was like, why didn't he
just hit a three wood and run it on? Well,
what does Bryson do? Hits a three wood, runs it
on easy two putt, could have been could have been
an eagle, and I think he thought it was in.
He left it a little short. But you have a
guy with length we've never seen in a day and
age where everybody is hitting the ball a mile long.
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This guy's deeper than them all, and honestly, it's not
that close. And when he really gets into it, especially
on some of these courses with these hard pain fairways,
he's hitting at like three hundred and seventy three hundred
and eighty yards and then forever it's like, well, he's
got the one leg club, no touch, how's he gonna
work a sand wedge and his lob wedge by he's
clearly got that figured out, and then he's an elite putter.
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Now listen, there's a lot of talk and golf Twitter
read it about the Olympics and their rules. He can't
be in the Olympics. I do think that's stupid, because
to me, it'd be pretty easy if there were no
requirements who are the best three American golfers to represent
US in Paris? It would be Scottie, Bryson and Xander.
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They would be the pick. Now, Bryson's not gonna get
to go. He didn't get to go the last time
because I think he got the VID right before and
Bryson didn't get the JAB, so they didn't let him go.
But it's clear, and this is where the world rankings
and all that, No one gives a shit about any
of that. Just watch the guy play. He's when he's on,
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He's every bit as good as Rory and Scotti. And
one thing Rory just can't do, for whatever reason, is
find a way to win these tournaments, and Bryson can't.
Like Bryson played winning golf at Valhalla, Xander just made
one more putt, but he didn't lose it like Rory.
Who knows if Rory makes that putt, there is no
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guarantee that he's gonna win in extra holes against Bryson. Honestly,
there's probably not a soul that would have confidence that
Rory would take him down. But at least you would
give yourself a chance and said he didn't he missed
it and listen, it's golf. Sometimes you miss those potts.
But like Rory's one of the most talented players in
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the history of the game. But it does feel like
something's missing because he has been on like a two
year heater of just playing at an elite level. Besides Scotty,
he's better than everyone on the PG Tour, and that
includes Xander. But in these Big four tournaments, which he's
even admitted it's the only thing he's playing for, it
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just doesn't happen. Lacc and the Old Course, it's like
he just couldn't make anything. And then today he's draining
every fucking putt from like fifteen to twenty five feet.
It feels like Tiger Woods, You're like, this guy is
gonna run away with this thing. And then you come
down the stretch you three punts sixteen and I think
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that has to be I mean, at the level in
which and they were talking about this on the broadcast,
the pressure in which he's under. Well, yeah, when you're
Phil Mickelson, when you're Tiger Woods, now with Scotty Scheffler,
like the pressure you're under is greater than everybody else.
Was the same thing with Steph Curry and Lebron and
Peyton and Tom Like. That's part of being the lead dog.
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That's part of being you know, the guy carrying the
flag for the sport. You gotta come through in that moment.
It's not a fifteen footer to force the playoff. Those
miss and make league. I mean sometimes you lip out,
sometimes three footer. You gotta make that putt and you
got to give yourself an opportunity. Now that being said,
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everyone's gonna it's a devastating al for him, which is
crazy because in this sport he didn't lose. He beat
literally every other person beside Bryson d Chambeau so like
and most people. There were eight guys under par He
boat raced, he destroyed, He ruined like Scotti's the Kopkas.
Those guys couldn't hold his jock this week. But that's
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not really what he's gunning for. We see him on
a weekly basis kick most people's butt. It's about coming
through and making that putt when it matters the most,
and then an extra hole is finding a way to
get it done. And let's face it, some of these
visuals we see when Rory was a little chubbier and
he was wearing the Oakley. It doesn't mean much to
most now it's on his resume. It's why he's become
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such a legend over the years because he won the
major so early. But we're living in twenty twenty four
and we're going on a guy who's approached his mid thirties.
Like I said, I think he's gonna win more majors.
You can't be in the mix this often, be that
good and have the ability to play so many different
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courses in contend and not eventually have it fall your way.
Xander is a great example. Xander was like, he's never
gonna get over the hump. He's never gonna get over
the hump. Well, if you're in the mix fifty percent
of the time for a seven year stretch, eventually some
of the things are gonna break your way. So over
the next three years, if I was a betting man,
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Roy McElroy's gonna win another major. But this one stinks,
this one hurts, and this one, to me is dramatically
worse than when he essentially lost to camp Smith and
lost to Wyndham Clark. This one has to be and
he declined. They tried to interview him after he declined,
which I don't blame him. Got to be pretty rattled,
and Rory's the last guy to get on for, you know,
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not being gracious with the media and all that stuff.
But you saw in a two hour span Bryson stole
this thing because he had him He had himself a
little cushion and then it was kind of coming off
the rails and he just grinded and he found a way.
And now it feels like he's a little bit of
the people's champ. And I've said this on Instagram because
some of these videos, he feels like the new Phil
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high fiving people, signing people's hats, mid round, pointing at
the crowd. There is just something And there were a
lot of stories over the years like Phil's kind of
a snake oil salesman. Phil is kind of a phony.
None of the fans cared, you know why, because Phil
wasn't enjoyable to watch. Phil was entertaining And that's what
this is. This is entertainment. Now. Part of what adds
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to your legend as a golfer, It's what made Tiger
Sitch a legend is it felt like he never choked,
he never blew it. And Phil went through a stretch
where he screwed up a lot, and a guy with
six majors, you know, Phil could have about fifteen, but
that added to the Phil story. So this moment for Rory,
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as shitty as it feels, it's way better than finishing
eleventh and having seven of your shots shown on Sunday.
But I can't imagine for a guy who is just
who's just playing four majors now like once Brady got
to like four or five, is like he's only playing
for Super Bowls. That's not like the Mahomes and Andy
Reid Chiefs feel the only thing that matters. I said this,
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when the schedule comes out doing win loss, or travel
or they got to go east to west or none
of that matters anymore. There is there's one schedule that
is completely irrelevant in the NFL, and that's the chief
schedule because they're only games that matter. I'm not saying
we won't watch and we won't talk about it, but
as we've seen the last couple of years, games and
October and games in November are relevant. They do not matter.
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They get judged purely on January games. That's it. That's
the only and they're the only team in the NFL
that can say that. And I think Rory probably more
than anyone, even more than Scotty Scheffler, is only judged
on these weeks. No one cares, and whether it's fair
or not, when he wins the Memorial or if he
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wins one of these playoff events, or if he ends
up winning the FedEx and taking down Scotty, it just
does not matter. And I also think that's a cool
part of sports, when you get to that level, you're
just judged, you know, at the highest level of your
profession in your sport, whether it's like, listen, I got
a little money on the oilers, like McDavid. At this
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point in time, everyone knows he's Hall of Fame talent,
He's gonna win all these MVPs, He's dominating everyone. He's
just judged on the playoffs and can he win a
Stanley Cup? And because Rory banks him early, he does
and have like the ghost of can this guy ever
win it? But he does have is a guy ever
gonna win one? Again? And listen, you know where I stand.
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But you see moments like today and you're like, if
you were on the side of the argument, he's never
gonna get it done. I don't know what I could
come back besides just well, statistically, it would show if
you just stay in the mix, because like today's a
good example of the eighteenth hole, and they both neither
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of them hit the fairway and one guy ends up
with a five and one guy ends up with a four,
And let's face it, Rory's up and down in theory
should be a lot easier, but he left the ball
above the hole to the left and had a tricky
little putt. Bryson meanwhile, leaves it below the hole knocks
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it in, and I thought the whole Bryson experience is
everything I wanted as a sports fan. Now, I know
we get a lot of people listening to these shows
that aren't big golf people. Do you just like my
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football stuff and come for it? And I'm a much
bigger golf fan than probably ninety eight percent of the country.
I understand that, and I also know where golf falls
on the hierarchy of importance. But if you like sports
and you like to be entertained, it is hard to
not watch Bryce in these last several days and have
a smile on your face and having fun and sometimes
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and you've seen this with the Caitlyn Clark discourse, Like, guys,
I'm already out, like I can't keep up. The average
sports fan that's coming in to watch doesn't want all
this bullshit. They just want to watch or play basketball,
shoot them threes and have fun because at the end
of the day, sports are supposed to be fun. This
is an escape and this is my life. But for
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the overwhelming majority of people that sit on their couch
and watch all the sports, whatever sport you may like,
beside football, baseball, basketball, racing, you name it, horse racing,
I don't care hockey. You want to enjoy it, you
want to be entertained. And I think Bryson is the
primo number one golf entertainer. He is listen, Scottie. Season
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is gonna go Down has potential to go down as
one of the great all time seasons in the history
of the sport. It's not even remotely close in terms
of entertainment value. When you watch the two guys play,
one guy is must watch and one guy great player,
kind of boring. Even Rory Rory. Rory showed a little
(29:38):
emotion today, but and Rory's more entertaining. Alexander there's zero entertainment.
Can't Ley is the most boring player on the PGA Tour,
and that's what Phil had for so long. Phil was
never Tiger. He was never gonna be Tiger. But there
was a peak stretch for like seven eight years where
Phil was making seventy eighty million dollars a year. Obviously
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he was one of the great all time players, but
he was unique in the sense that he was fun.
It was enjoyable. It was an enjoyable roller coaster to
go on. And when you play in these major championships,
it's not easy. You're gonna get screwed, especially today, like
you had no clue when you missed the fairway. Where
are you gonna end up. He's gonna end up in
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the sand. We're gonna end up in a footprint. We're
gonna be in one of those little wiregrass bushes. We're
gonna end up in a root under a tree. And
when you can figure out ways to pull shots out
of your you know what and make a par that
is fun. And Bryson just an all time performance of entertainment.
So I tip my hat to him because wont he
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won me money? But two that that was just that
was enjoyable to watch. And one thing I think we
got today is listen, a lot of people in the
Gulf world bitch and moaned about the PG Championship because
Valhalla was too easy. Now I'm not disagreeing. I would
like the Majors to be a very, very tough test,
and that clearly was on the easy side of these
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guys just being able to attack pins. This was the
polar opposite, And I do agree with the overall sentiment,
like I like birdies as much as the next guy,
but I do enjoy watching and I wouldn't even call
the last couple of days carnage. But just of course,
the average person goes, I don't even think I could
break one hundred and twenty there. I wouldn't have I
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don't even think I could par any hole. If you
gave me multiple shots, I would three and four put
every single green. I would have no chance to hit
it out of anywhere if it was not in the fairway.
An if you're in the fairway, you might run through
to the crap. Now you could argue that Pinehurst is
a very unique setup with the elevated greens, the wire
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stuff outside the fairways just it's cool, and I think
when we watched these majors, specifically the PGA Championship in
the US Open, you want it to be really difficult.
Like when you saw Brighton. When Xander won, he was
extremely happy because he finally had Steve Young once or
Gary Plumber said to Steve Young, take that monkey off
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my back. He got the monkey off his back. But
that looked much more like a normal PGA Tour event
than it did what we just witnessed. I mean, there
were eight guys under par. The winning score was six
under par. Like it should be extremely difficult to get
a birdie in every single hole, and part of what
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makes a major historically so awesome, besides the Masters has
become a little easier to score. But even that, can
you know, show its teeth, is that on any given hole,
at any given moment, a boge is in play, and
if you were to screw up, a double bogie is
definitely in play. And that leads to the drama of
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the golf because you could have a three shot lead
and all of a sud sudden Bryson's down two at
a Hall of that wasn't even in the carts, even
at the Masters, if you have a two shot lead
with the last three or four holes, you're gonna have
to screw up pretty badly to make a double bogie.
But as you saw today, like three putts were always
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in play. I don't care who you were, And we
saw Rory essentially he didn't three put the last hole,
but it felt like a three putt when you miss
a you know, three and a half foot comebacker and
Bryson three putt at hole fifteen. It just felt like
you were on the edge of your seat because anything
was possible, and you had to be playing so well
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to even have a chance to get a birdie. Like
when you made a birdie. It was a really really
big deal over the last two days, and I think
a lot of people thought early on when some guys
shot four or five under on Thursday, it's like, ah,
this is gonna be the It's of course too easy
for the boys. The equipment's too good. These guys are
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two dialed. No that it showed its teeth because the
fairways were concrete and the greens might as well have
been a you know, like a driveway because you had
It's hard early on to kind of feel that out
if you've never played there. I've never played Pinehurst. But
as it went on and on, you realize, oh, that's
going to roll off. Oh that's screwed that guy, he's
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in trouble. And that includes the leaders and includes the
random guys. But if you told me the US Open
was at Pinehurst every single year, I don't think many
people would complain. I think we're lucky that we get
basically now every five years at Pinehurst. But I love
Pebble Beach. I grew up, you know, on the West
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coast in northern California. It's like the Lambeau Field of
golf out west and the views this, you know, the
scenic stretch on whole five, six, seven, eight nine with
the water in the back, and then obviously eighteen hard
to beat, but it doesn't have that. It doesn't have
that difficulty because it's a much different test. They just
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grow out the rough, right, so you just either hit
it in the fair way or you're in six inch rough,
which anyone that's played golf knows that's miserable and it sucks.
But that didn't feel like that at all. Today. There
wasn't any rough, and yet it was still impossible for
these guys, I mean impossible. Scottie Scheffler, no human since
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Tiger has ever played golf as well as him shot
eight over par, never had a shot. Honestly, it was
kind of refreshing to see that the guy's human. Now
I'm someone that put him in a lot of different
parlays because I thought, ow, how's Scotty not gonna win
this course, And every single person that covers the sport
was like, you know, this course is Taylor made for
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Scottie Scheffler. And he got very lucky that the cut
kind of came back to him. He ended up making
the cut, but he he didn't obviously was never in it.
But he even went back on the weekend, and I
don't know if he just ran out of gas. Obviously
had a lot going on in his life over the
last month, with you know, the felony charges that were dropped,
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a new child, But that was Rory's putt was the
most shocking thing to happen this weekend by a mile,
just the individual moment. But if you just put the
aggregates Scotty being nowhere to be found, I would say
coming into the week would be stunning. If you told
me he had an off week. If you told me
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to start the week, Scotty's not gonna play well. I
think I bet he finished his eighteenth you know, twenty
fourth plus eight. That's stunning. And like I said earlier,
I think Xander you could argue emotionally if he does
a lot. He's not Bryson, He's not Rory. He doesn't
move the needle anywhere near that. But the guy is
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just putting on a clinic on a weekly basis. His
floor now is Rory level high, Like even when he's
off boom t seven. Like, this guy just refuses to
suck in any of these moments. And it's why, like,
if you're taking the over under on Xander Majors, he's
more likely to win three than he is to stay
at one, just because now he was never in this tournament.
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But he's never bad in these moments. He is literally
good every single time they play a major. And you
do that enough, you're just gonna run into some And
I think the one back to Rory, God, that that
was that's hard to shake. If you tell me you
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don't see Rory till the Open Championship and he just
kind of goes into a hole. I wouldn't blame him
because I don't I know, he just reconciled with his wife,
so his family environment and theories on back on the
up and up. But I don't know how you sleep.
I don't know how you sleep, and I would imagine
Bryce's I don't think Bryson's a big drinker. I don't
think he drinks it all. Actually, it's gonna have a
(38:02):
fun night drinking chocolate milk or something. Protein chicks, but
just an incredible US open. It's always awesome on Father's Day.
It's tough, you know, when your dad's not around. Because
I used to watch these terms with my dad and
you can see Bryson get emotional his dad. You know,
Bryson's from Fresno. His dad was like a teaching pro,
worked in the golf business. Obviously passed away a couple
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of years ago. I'm just glad his dad got to
see him win the one at Wingfoot, But you could tell,
you know, not having his dad there, it's a really
really big moment. Like he said, he went to SMU
because of paint steward. He wore the he wore the
kangole hat. I don't think they call that in golf hat,
but he wore that style hat he doesn't any longer,
which is probably the right look. I think he looks
better just in a normal kind of baseball golf hat,
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even with the Crusher's logo on it, which is always
finny to see. Bryson reps the live stuff pretty strong,
but just an awesome champion. And he's coming, boys, He's coming.
I don't know if he'll win the Open, but I
don't even I would say he wins a mastress in
his time. For sure. He's definitely gonna be a factor
every time they play the PGA, in US Open, maybe
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the Open because of the wind and he plays the
ball so high. Might never be a great fit for him,
but I'd be stunned if he doesn't win the other
two majors. Like if you said, right now, does Bryce
and d Chambeau win a Mastress, I would like bet
everything that I have in my savings account right now
on it. So cool moment. Hopefully everyone enjoyed, everyone was entertained.
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I had a lot of fun, and that was I
watched a lot of golf. The last definitely the last
forty eight hours, but even the first two days very
very the entertainment factor was high, the volume
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What is going on? Everybody? Happy? Us open? That's what
this podcast will be. A little go low pod reacting
to Bryson d sham Bo winning at Pinehurst and Rory
McElroy choking missing a short putt on the eighteenth holl
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that would have forced a playoff. We will talk about
it all your boy Draftking partners here had a week,
so props to Bryson for getting that done. That was
sweet and Happy Father's Day. Happy belated Father's Day to
all you fathers out there. It's a tough day for
all of us that have lost our fathers. But it's
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always you know, Bryson talked about it after he won.
He lost his dad a couple of years ago, Fresno guy.
But it's always us open, always ends on Father's Day
as a powerful moment for sure for those of us
that love golfer, for those of us that love entertainment,
because that was Listen. If you like sports, I don't.
I don't know how you wouldn't enjoy that last couple
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hours of Rory and Bryson going toe to toe. Obviously,
Bryson wins a second major I would imagine Rory's gonna
be a major major storyline over the next forty eight hours.
That's a rough loss. That's a that's a rough l
that's one I don't know how you quite shake and listen,
there's no we'll talk about there's no guarantee that he
(03:15):
would have won, but that that's that's tough. I mean,
that's reminiscent of some film moments. But it really this
tournament became a two horse race, two guys stealing all
the headlines, and basically became they weren't playing in the
same group, but essentially somewhat of a match play situation
(03:37):
down the stretch, and Bryson found a way to get
it done, and he now has become I don't know
if he's the most popular American golfer. I don't really consider.
Tiger doesn't really play anymore. Phil Shot, I listened Scott.
He's playing the best if you factor in the last
several years. But Bryson's majors this year T six, second
(03:59):
in the US Open, champion. He looks pretty good and
he is. He's much watch television. So we'll dive into
Brice and we'll dive into the ry debacle. Obviously, Pinehurst,
for anyone that's listening that has been, I'm jealous. Looks
like just an awesome place. Not easy. I don't know
if it'd be fun if you're not on Clearly normally
(04:21):
it's not US Open conditions, but it showed out this
week and it was. It was dramatically different from the
major a month ago at Valhalla, which essentially was a
PGA tournament, which is Bertie's left and right. This one
did not look fun, did not look easy, didn't look
(04:41):
enjoyable if you're just a normal golfer to attempt to play.
But it is very, very enjoyable to watch these all
time great players struggle to get parse and be excited
when they get parsed. So we'll dive into it all.
Hopefully everyone enjoyed it as much as I did, because
I throw Scotti Scheffer not so much. Feels like his
(05:03):
worst tournament in years was nowhere to be found in
the leaderboard because he finished I think plus eight and
was nowhere ever in contention. So yeah, what a week.
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to nineteen ninety nine with Payne Stewart and Phil Mickelson
going at it, I guess the only difference here is
Rory and Bryson were not in the same group. Something
I think golf needs to figure out. Just you can
place whoever you want in the groups. Put Rory and
put Bryson in the same group. But we were lucky today.
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It didn't really matter much because Rory came out the
gate swinging Birdie's won and then gets just lightning hot.
He Birdi's nine, he bird, he's ten. He bird, He's twelve.
He birt's thirteen, and everyone on the internet was like,
he's up to with five to play. Well, Bryson still
had six to play because he was one behind. Then
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Bryson knocks it on thirteen, Birdie's that, and then, let's
face it, I hate using this term because golf's really hard.
I don't care if you're Rory McElroy or you're me
or you. It is a difficult sport. It's hard to
make putts. And we have seen some legendary choke jobs
in this sport. A couple of years ago at the
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PGA Championship when Justin Thomas won, Mito Pereira knocks it
in the water. The most legendary one of all time
is John Vanderveld in the Open when he I think
triples the last hole ends up going to a playoff.
But for Rory's standard, that was a choke job. He
blew it three putts sixteen, and then the putt on eighteen,
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and I thought Brandle nailed it. He said, listen to
the naked eye. That looks like a really good chip,
but that is the wrong spot to leave it. And meanwhile,
Bryson's probably one hundred and fifty yards behind him, under
a tree and against a root. You could tell Bryson
wasn't comfortable. He tried to get a ruling for a drop.
Thank god, the rules officials said you're not getting a drop,
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and he basically had to hit in a bunker, which
was gonna be. As he just said when he received
the trophy, it's the best shot of my life. And
for Rory to miss that putt, you almost knew it
was inevitable. He lost it right there. And listen, he's
had a chance over these last couple of years to
win a couple majors. You know, he lacc he did
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not make a putt. Same thing with the British Open
a couple of years ago when cam Smith won he
could not make a putt. That was not the case today.
I mean early on in the round he's draining putts.
Bryson bait essentially won the tournament the first three days
because he gave himself elite. He shoot sixty seven, sixty nine,
sixty seven as a three shot lead coming in today
and was able to just kind of hold his mud.
(09:01):
It's not like he ran away with it. Hell, he
was celebrating incredible up and downs for Pars and once
Bryson knocked it on thirteen, You're like, Rory doesn't have
any margin foreer. And I'll be honest, I thought he
was gonna make it on eighteen, even though his feet
were kind of open. He was kind of lined up weird,
and that ball never had a chance. And then the
moment he missed and Bryson hits it in the bunker,
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You're like, Okay, we're going to a playoff now. Historically
the playoff has always been and there hasn't been a
playoff in the US Open since Tiger and Rocco. I
was like, okay, eighteen holes. We're getting eighteen holes tomorrow.
I'm a podcaster. I plan on watching it all. And
then Tarico chimes in it's now a two hole aggregate.
I'm like, okay, we get extra golf. I would imagine
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they just play seventeen and eighteen Rory de Chambeau, it's
gonna be incredible. And then Bryson, that bunker shot he
hit on eighteen was just freaking remarkable. I mean, once
he hit it that close, there was no way he
was missing that putt. And obviously he doesn't. He wins
his second US Open, And I don't think I can
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remember anyone in sports we've seen guys go the other way.
Someone that was really celebrated obviously had a you know,
let's use Lebron as an example. In Cleveland. He was
a rock star. He had the entire state of Ohio
behind him, and then when he left, he kind of
went full heel and everyone rooted against him. It's very
very rare. You see it baseball sometimes when guys leave teams.
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You know, we saw it back in the Yankees and
Red Sox hey day, when a guy would jump over.
This was the opposite. Bryson was not well liked. People
almost rooted against him. They thought he was a weird dude.
And you know, in the golfing world he had done
things to rub people the wrong way. Then he bulks
up like he's about to play defensive tackle in the NFL.
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And then he goes to live and he kind of
gets skinny, but he keeps hitting three hundred and fifty
three hundred and sixty yard drives that are still just
remarkable to And now he's fun and you know what
golf has really missed. And I said this when the
Live PGA Tour thing happened. One problem is golf just
has a bunch of likable guys, and in any sport,
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in any form of entertainment, you need to have people
that I like rooting for and people that I root against.
And then they took all those guys. But then somehow
Bryson comes storming back, feels like a completely different human being.
Has a YouTube channel that everyone I play golf with
or everyone I meet that follows golf, like, Hey, are
you watching Bryson's YouTube? It's a pretty big deal. It
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gets a lot of us. For example, Live last week
got under two hundred thousand people watching. He does two
hundred thousand people in five hours when he posts a
video on YouTube, and he's become really likable, and then
you watch this whole week how he's playing with the crowd.
One thing Tiger did a really good job of. Now
he was constantly in just these miraculous moments, partly because
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Tiger would spray it around and then have the craziest
up and downs you've ever seen. The fist pumps were
a huge part of Tiger's legend, his emotion. You could
feel them when you watched them. Obviously, his resume by
the mid two thousands was unlike anything we'd ever seen
beside Jack, but you felt his presence. Now. Tiger was
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not high fiven people in the gallery. He was not
pointing at the crowd. But when you saw him make
a big putt or have a big moment, he'd pimp
that shot a lot, like Bryson did on Whole seventeen.
Or he would do the crazy fist you know, up
and down, both arms go nuts, and that's what Bryson
was doing. You know why fans like that. It's entertaining,
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it's fun, and that's what Bryson has become. Fun. Scotty,
who had a bad week, is on one of the
greatest runs we've ever seen. There's not much emotion there.
You don't see much by far, not even close. The
most interesting thing that will probably ever happen to Scottie
on or off the course was getting arrested a month
(13:06):
ago and going in the orange jumpsuit. But he's not
a big fist bumper. He's not a big you know,
lay it all out there when he does something awesome,
and Bryson's the opposite. And listen, whether you liked him
or you didn't. A couple of years ago when he's
on the screen. I remember when I was young and
(13:29):
grew up a big San Franco Giants fan, and Barry
Bonds became very polarizing. Obviously, cream the clear, he looked
like Ray Lewis in his prime. But when he came
up to the plate, everyone stopped to watch. Whether you
hated him, whether you loved him, you had to see it.
And that's kind of what Bryson has become. You just
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got to watch, and then the more you watch, you
kind of find yourself rooting for him. Now, your boy
might have had a little parlay and might have just
won almost you know, twenty k. So I was definitely
invested in his success this weekend. But even if I
had no money on the guy, like a month ago
at the PGA, he was riveting TV. His whole operation
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is unlike anything we've ever seen. Yesterday, he's asked on
Saturday about how he soaks his golf balls in salt
water to find the balance and make sure none of
the golf balls are off. All of his irons are
the same length. Now sometimes he has like a nine
iron from two hundred yards and you realize, well, his
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the degrees on. His clubs are much different than basically
everyone on tour and every normal person that plays golf.
But you're like, what is going on? And he has
these crazy three d irons, He's playing these crazy rope draws.
But here's the thing about Bryson. He's not some golf
creation in a lab. This is one of the I
(14:57):
would say, most talented golfers of his generation. He went
to SMU as a blue chip high school kid and
became a individual national champion in college. Then he won
the US Amateur. Now he's won multiple US Opens, and
before he went to live it's not like he had
never won. On the PGA Tour, he was winning. This
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guy's a winner. He's been a winner since he was
a young guy. This is a blue chip player, a
lot like Rory on elite talent as a youth and
has carry it through his career. And that's what we're
watching with Bryson. And you're seeing a guy right now
who is in the peak of his powers. If it
wasn't for a couple of bad chips at the Masters,
he would have been right in that thing. He finished
(15:39):
tied for six. He easily could have won the PGA Championship.
If the PGA Championship would have been seventy five holes
and not seventy two holes, I think he would have won.
Even Xander admitted I wanted no part of a playoff
with Bryson. D Chambeau finished his second. Then he comes
to Pinehurst, which historically with Bryson, and you're like, you know,
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it's much more about placement. Short game putting doesn't quite
feel well. Here's the thing with Bryson. His short game
is awesome. I'm not saying he's Brad Faxon or Steve
Stricker with a putter in his hand, but you are
much more confident when that weird stick is in his
hand than you are with Rory McElroy. He is a
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fantastic putter, and you're seeing a guy right now who
hasn't figured out And listen, Scottie Scheffler is the best
player in the world this week. Remove it, but not debatable.
You could make a very easy argument that Bryson's the
second best player. I mean, Xander is having a fantastic year.
He is an elite player, won the PGA, finished his
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top ten here, He's in the mix every single week.
He's an elite player. Rory is awesome, Bryson is every
bit there equals and now what we're seeing is in
these big moments for all these guys with live you know,
here's the thing. For Kopka, it was awesome to watch
him win the PGA Championship last year and get his
fifth major. If I had to set the over under
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on Brooks Koepka's majors moving forward, I'd probably put it
at point five. Like I'm not expecting him to win
another one. If I had to put the over under
even Rory McElroy, Rory's going to win a major. I
feel very very confident on that. Is he gonna end
up with ten? Probably not, But is he more likely
to end up with six than he is where he
sits now at four? Yes, I don't know when he's
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gonna win it, but you put yourself in the mix
enough like he has several times in the last three years.
Right could have won at LAC, could have won a
British This was easily his best chance. He's gonna win it.
Bryson is winning it. Bryson did get it done. I'd
put his over under on majors for his career probably
around four and a half five and a half somewhere
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in that range, because Bryson, to me, feels like a
five to six major guy much more than he does
a two major guy. He's thirty years old now. The
health on Saturday, he's his hips give him problems because
of the way that he speed trains. But then you
watch him hit, You're like, it doesn't really look like
he's slowing down. It doesn't really look like it faces
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him and his touch around the greens. Obviously what he
did on eighteen out of the sand. If you put
the average like low handicap guy in that spot, I
think there's a pretty good chance most people end up
with double. They either blast the ball way over the
green or they hit it way short than they three
putt that that shot, And there was a shot earlier
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in the round was it whole ten where he left
it short of the bunker. And Brandle's like, this is
this is really freaking hard. Hit lob wedge like five
feet nails it for Bertie And so if you're telling
me a guy they can hit it three hundred and
fifty yards pretty easily. When it came to the driveable
thirteenth hole, Rory hit driver way over. Now he still
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ends up making Bertie. I was like, why didn't he
just hit a three wood and run it on? Well,
what does Bryson do? Hits a three wood, runs it
on easy two putt, could have been could have been
an eagle, and I think he thought it was in.
He left it a little short. But you have a
guy with length we've never seen in a day and
age where everybody is hitting the ball a mile long.
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This guy's deeper than them all, and honestly, it's not
that close. And when he really gets into it, especially
on some of these courses with these hard pain fairways,
he's hitting at like three hundred and seventy three hundred
and eighty yards and then forever it's like, well, he's
got the one leg club, no touch, how's he gonna
work a sand wedge and his lob wedge by he's
clearly got that figured out, and then he's an elite putter.
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Now listen, there's a lot of talk and golf Twitter
read it about the Olympics and their rules. He can't
be in the Olympics. I do think that's stupid, because
to me, it'd be pretty easy if there were no
requirements who are the best three American golfers to represent
US in Paris? It would be Scottie, Bryson and Xander.
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They would be the pick. Now, Bryson's not gonna get
to go. He didn't get to go the last time
because I think he got the VID right before and
Bryson didn't get the JAB, so they didn't let him go.
But it's clear, and this is where the world rankings
and all that, No one gives a shit about any
of that. Just watch the guy play. He's when he's on,
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He's every bit as good as Rory and Scotti. And
one thing Rory just can't do, for whatever reason, is
find a way to win these tournaments, and Bryson can't.
Like Bryson played winning golf at Valhalla, Xander just made
one more putt, but he didn't lose it like Rory.
Who knows if Rory makes that putt, there is no
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guarantee that he's gonna win in extra holes against Bryson. Honestly,
there's probably not a soul that would have confidence that
Rory would take him down. But at least you would
give yourself a chance and said he didn't he missed
it and listen, it's golf. Sometimes you miss those potts.
But like Rory's one of the most talented players in
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the history of the game. But it does feel like
something's missing because he has been on like a two
year heater of just playing at an elite level. Besides Scotty,
he's better than everyone on the PG Tour, and that
includes Xander. But in these Big four tournaments, which he's
even admitted it's the only thing he's playing for, it
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just doesn't happen. Lacc and the Old Course, it's like
he just couldn't make anything. And then today he's draining
every fucking putt from like fifteen to twenty five feet.
It feels like Tiger Woods, You're like, this guy is
gonna run away with this thing. And then you come
down the stretch you three punts sixteen and I think
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that has to be I mean, at the level in
which and they were talking about this on the broadcast,
the pressure in which he's under. Well, yeah, when you're
Phil Mickelson, when you're Tiger Woods, now with Scotty Scheffler,
like the pressure you're under is greater than everybody else.
Was the same thing with Steph Curry and Lebron and
Peyton and Tom Like. That's part of being the lead dog.
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That's part of being you know, the guy carrying the
flag for the sport. You gotta come through in that moment.
It's not a fifteen footer to force the playoff. Those
miss and make league. I mean sometimes you lip out,
sometimes three footer. You gotta make that putt and you
got to give yourself an opportunity. Now that being said,
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everyone's gonna it's a devastating al for him, which is
crazy because in this sport he didn't lose. He beat
literally every other person beside Bryson d Chambeau so like
and most people. There were eight guys under par He
boat raced, he destroyed, He ruined like Scotti's the Kopkas.
Those guys couldn't hold his jock this week. But that's
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not really what he's gunning for. We see him on
a weekly basis kick most people's butt. It's about coming
through and making that putt when it matters the most,
and then an extra hole is finding a way to
get it done. And let's face it, some of these
visuals we see when Rory was a little chubbier and
he was wearing the Oakley. It doesn't mean much to
most now it's on his resume. It's why he's become
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such a legend over the years because he won the
major so early. But we're living in twenty twenty four
and we're going on a guy who's approached his mid thirties.
Like I said, I think he's gonna win more majors.
You can't be in the mix this often, be that
good and have the ability to play so many different
(23:28):
courses in contend and not eventually have it fall your way.
Xander is a great example. Xander was like, he's never
gonna get over the hump. He's never gonna get over
the hump. Well, if you're in the mix fifty percent
of the time for a seven year stretch, eventually some
of the things are gonna break your way. So over
the next three years, if I was a betting man,
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Roy McElroy's gonna win another major. But this one stinks,
this one hurts, and this one, to me is dramatically
worse than when he essentially lost to camp Smith and
lost to Wyndham Clark. This one has to be and
he declined. They tried to interview him after he declined,
which I don't blame him. Got to be pretty rattled,
and Rory's the last guy to get on for, you know,
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not being gracious with the media and all that stuff.
But you saw in a two hour span Bryson stole
this thing because he had him He had himself a
little cushion and then it was kind of coming off
the rails and he just grinded and he found a way.
And now it feels like he's a little bit of
the people's champ. And I've said this on Instagram because
some of these videos, he feels like the new Phil
(24:35):
high fiving people, signing people's hats, mid round, pointing at
the crowd. There is just something And there were a
lot of stories over the years like Phil's kind of
a snake oil salesman. Phil is kind of a phony.
None of the fans cared, you know why, because Phil
wasn't enjoyable to watch. Phil was entertaining And that's what
this is. This is entertainment. Now. Part of what adds
(24:57):
to your legend as a golfer, It's what made Tiger
Sitch a legend is it felt like he never choked,
he never blew it. And Phil went through a stretch
where he screwed up a lot, and a guy with
six majors, you know, Phil could have about fifteen, but
that added to the Phil story. So this moment for Rory,
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as shitty as it feels, it's way better than finishing
eleventh and having seven of your shots shown on Sunday.
But I can't imagine for a guy who is just
who's just playing four majors now like once Brady got
to like four or five, is like he's only playing
for Super Bowls. That's not like the Mahomes and Andy
Reid Chiefs feel the only thing that matters. I said this,
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when the schedule comes out doing win loss, or travel
or they got to go east to west or none
of that matters anymore. There is there's one schedule that
is completely irrelevant in the NFL, and that's the chief
schedule because they're only games that matter. I'm not saying
we won't watch and we won't talk about it, but
as we've seen the last couple of years, games and
October and games in November are relevant. They do not matter.
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They get judged purely on January games. That's it. That's
the only and they're the only team in the NFL
that can say that. And I think Rory probably more
than anyone, even more than Scotty Scheffler, is only judged
on these weeks. No one cares, and whether it's fair
or not, when he wins the Memorial or if he
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wins one of these playoff events, or if he ends
up winning the FedEx and taking down Scotty, it just
does not matter. And I also think that's a cool
part of sports, when you get to that level, you're
just judged, you know, at the highest level of your
profession in your sport, whether it's like, listen, I got
a little money on the oilers, like McDavid. At this
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point in time, everyone knows he's Hall of Fame talent,
He's gonna win all these MVPs, He's dominating everyone. He's
just judged on the playoffs and can he win a
Stanley Cup? And because Rory banks him early, he does
and have like the ghost of can this guy ever
win it? But he does have is a guy ever
gonna win one? Again? And listen, you know where I stand.
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But you see moments like today and you're like, if
you were on the side of the argument, he's never
gonna get it done. I don't know what I could
come back besides just well, statistically, it would show if
you just stay in the mix, because like today's a
good example of the eighteenth hole, and they both neither
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of them hit the fairway and one guy ends up
with a five and one guy ends up with a four,
And let's face it, Rory's up and down in theory
should be a lot easier, but he left the ball
above the hole to the left and had a tricky
little putt. Bryson meanwhile, leaves it below the hole knocks
(27:49):
it in, and I thought the whole Bryson experience is
everything I wanted as a sports fan. Now, I know
we get a lot of people listening to these shows
that aren't big golf people. Do you just like my
(28:11):
football stuff and come for it? And I'm a much
bigger golf fan than probably ninety eight percent of the country.
I understand that, and I also know where golf falls
on the hierarchy of importance. But if you like sports
and you like to be entertained, it is hard to
not watch Bryce in these last several days and have
a smile on your face and having fun and sometimes
(28:33):
and you've seen this with the Caitlyn Clark discourse, Like, guys,
I'm already out, like I can't keep up. The average
sports fan that's coming in to watch doesn't want all
this bullshit. They just want to watch or play basketball,
shoot them threes and have fun because at the end
of the day, sports are supposed to be fun. This
is an escape and this is my life. But for
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the overwhelming majority of people that sit on their couch
and watch all the sports, whatever sport you may like,
beside football, baseball, basketball, racing, you name it, horse racing,
I don't care hockey. You want to enjoy it, you
want to be entertained. And I think Bryson is the
primo number one golf entertainer. He is listen, Scottie. Season
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is gonna go Down has potential to go down as
one of the great all time seasons in the history
of the sport. It's not even remotely close in terms
of entertainment value. When you watch the two guys play,
one guy is must watch and one guy great player,
kind of boring. Even Rory Rory. Rory showed a little
(29:38):
emotion today, but and Rory's more entertaining. Alexander there's zero entertainment.
Can't Ley is the most boring player on the PGA Tour,
and that's what Phil had for so long. Phil was
never Tiger. He was never gonna be Tiger. But there
was a peak stretch for like seven eight years where
Phil was making seventy eighty million dollars a year. Obviously
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he was one of the great all time players, but
he was unique in the sense that he was fun.
It was enjoyable. It was an enjoyable roller coaster to
go on. And when you play in these major championships,
it's not easy. You're gonna get screwed, especially today, like
you had no clue when you missed the fairway. Where
are you gonna end up. He's gonna end up in
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the sand. We're gonna end up in a footprint. We're
gonna be in one of those little wiregrass bushes. We're
gonna end up in a root under a tree. And
when you can figure out ways to pull shots out
of your you know what and make a par that
is fun. And Bryson just an all time performance of entertainment.
So I tip my hat to him because wont he
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won me money? But two that that was just that
was enjoyable to watch. And one thing I think we
got today is listen, a lot of people in the
Gulf world bitch and moaned about the PG Championship because
Valhalla was too easy. Now I'm not disagreeing. I would
like the Majors to be a very, very tough test,
and that clearly was on the easy side of these
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guys just being able to attack pins. This was the
polar opposite, And I do agree with the overall sentiment,
like I like birdies as much as the next guy,
but I do enjoy watching and I wouldn't even call
the last couple of days carnage. But just of course,
the average person goes, I don't even think I could
break one hundred and twenty there. I wouldn't have I
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don't even think I could par any hole. If you
gave me multiple shots, I would three and four put
every single green. I would have no chance to hit
it out of anywhere if it was not in the fairway.
An if you're in the fairway, you might run through
to the crap. Now you could argue that Pinehurst is
a very unique setup with the elevated greens, the wire
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stuff outside the fairways just it's cool, and I think
when we watched these majors, specifically the PGA Championship in
the US Open, you want it to be really difficult.
Like when you saw Brighton. When Xander won, he was
extremely happy because he finally had Steve Young once or
Gary Plumber said to Steve Young, take that monkey off
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my back. He got the monkey off his back. But
that looked much more like a normal PGA Tour event
than it did what we just witnessed. I mean, there
were eight guys under par. The winning score was six
under par. Like it should be extremely difficult to get
a birdie in every single hole, and part of what
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makes a major historically so awesome, besides the Masters has
become a little easier to score. But even that, can
you know, show its teeth, is that on any given hole,
at any given moment, a boge is in play, and
if you were to screw up, a double bogie is
definitely in play. And that leads to the drama of
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the golf because you could have a three shot lead
and all of a sud sudden Bryson's down two at
a Hall of that wasn't even in the carts, even
at the Masters, if you have a two shot lead
with the last three or four holes, you're gonna have
to screw up pretty badly to make a double bogie.
But as you saw today, like three putts were always
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in play. I don't care who you were, And we
saw Rory essentially he didn't three put the last hole,
but it felt like a three putt when you miss
a you know, three and a half foot comebacker and
Bryson three putt at hole fifteen. It just felt like
you were on the edge of your seat because anything
was possible, and you had to be playing so well
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to even have a chance to get a birdie. Like
when you made a birdie. It was a really really
big deal over the last two days, and I think
a lot of people thought early on when some guys
shot four or five under on Thursday, it's like, ah,
this is gonna be the It's of course too easy
for the boys. The equipment's too good. These guys are
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two dialed. No that it showed its teeth because the
fairways were concrete and the greens might as well have
been a you know, like a driveway because you had
It's hard early on to kind of feel that out
if you've never played there. I've never played Pinehurst. But
as it went on and on, you realize, oh, that's
going to roll off. Oh that's screwed that guy, he's
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in trouble. And that includes the leaders and includes the
random guys. But if you told me the US Open
was at Pinehurst every single year, I don't think many
people would complain. I think we're lucky that we get
basically now every five years at Pinehurst. But I love
Pebble Beach. I grew up, you know, on the West
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coast in northern California. It's like the Lambeau Field of
golf out west and the views this, you know, the
scenic stretch on whole five, six, seven, eight nine with
the water in the back, and then obviously eighteen hard
to beat, but it doesn't have that. It doesn't have
that difficulty because it's a much different test. They just
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grow out the rough, right, so you just either hit
it in the fair way or you're in six inch rough,
which anyone that's played golf knows that's miserable and it sucks.
But that didn't feel like that at all. Today. There
wasn't any rough, and yet it was still impossible for
these guys, I mean impossible. Scottie Scheffler, no human since
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Tiger has ever played golf as well as him shot
eight over par, never had a shot. Honestly, it was
kind of refreshing to see that the guy's human. Now
I'm someone that put him in a lot of different
parlays because I thought, ow, how's Scotty not gonna win
this course, And every single person that covers the sport
was like, you know, this course is Taylor made for
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Scottie Scheffler. And he got very lucky that the cut
kind of came back to him. He ended up making
the cut, but he he didn't obviously was never in it.
But he even went back on the weekend, and I
don't know if he just ran out of gas. Obviously
had a lot going on in his life over the
last month, with you know, the felony charges that were dropped,
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a new child, But that was Rory's putt was the
most shocking thing to happen this weekend by a mile,
just the individual moment. But if you just put the
aggregates Scotty being nowhere to be found, I would say
coming into the week would be stunning. If you told
me he had an off week. If you told me
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to start the week, Scotty's not gonna play well. I
think I bet he finished his eighteenth you know, twenty
fourth plus eight. That's stunning. And like I said earlier,
I think Xander you could argue emotionally if he does
a lot. He's not Bryson, He's not Rory. He doesn't
move the needle anywhere near that. But the guy is
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just putting on a clinic on a weekly basis. His
floor now is Rory level high, Like even when he's
off boom t seven. Like, this guy just refuses to
suck in any of these moments. And it's why, like,
if you're taking the over under on Xander Majors, he's
more likely to win three than he is to stay
at one, just because now he was never in this tournament.
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But he's never bad in these moments. He is literally
good every single time they play a major. And you
do that enough, you're just gonna run into some And
I think the one back to Rory, God, that that
was that's hard to shake. If you tell me you
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don't see Rory till the Open Championship and he just
kind of goes into a hole. I wouldn't blame him
because I don't I know, he just reconciled with his wife,
so his family environment and theories on back on the
up and up. But I don't know how you sleep.
I don't know how you sleep, and I would imagine
Bryce's I don't think Bryson's a big drinker. I don't
think he drinks it all. Actually, it's gonna have a
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fun night drinking chocolate milk or something. Protein chicks, but
just an incredible US open. It's always awesome on Father's Day.
It's tough, you know, when your dad's not around. Because
I used to watch these terms with my dad and
you can see Bryson get emotional his dad. You know,
Bryson's from Fresno. His dad was like a teaching pro,
worked in the golf business. Obviously passed away a couple
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of years ago. I'm just glad his dad got to
see him win the one at Wingfoot, But you could tell,
you know, not having his dad there, it's a really
really big moment. Like he said, he went to SMU
because of paint steward. He wore the he wore the
kangole hat. I don't think they call that in golf hat,
but he wore that style hat he doesn't any longer,
which is probably the right look. I think he looks
better just in a normal kind of baseball golf hat,
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even with the Crusher's logo on it, which is always
finny to see. Bryson reps the live stuff pretty strong,
but just an awesome champion. And he's coming, boys, He's coming.
I don't know if he'll win the Open, but I
don't even I would say he wins a mastress in
his time. For sure. He's definitely gonna be a factor
every time they play the PGA, in US Open, maybe
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the Open because of the wind and he plays the
ball so high. Might never be a great fit for him,
but I'd be stunned if he doesn't win the other
two majors. Like if you said, right now, does Bryce
and d Chambeau win a Mastress, I would like bet
everything that I have in my savings account right now
on it. So cool moment. Hopefully everyone enjoyed, everyone was entertained.
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I had a lot of fun, and that was I
watched a lot of golf. The last definitely the last
forty eight hours, but even the first two days very
very the entertainment factor was high, the volume
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