June 17, 2024 • 34 mins
Colin discusses Bryson DeChambeau winning the US Open in dramatic fashion over Rory McIlroy and why golf needs more moments like this. He tells you why he was right about Jaylen Brown and wrong about Mike Tomlin. Plus, NFL reporter Albert Breer joins the show to tell Colin if Aaron Rodgers made a mistake by skipping mandatory minicamp
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, it is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles.
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of your day. One hour from now. Where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong This week because of all the soccer,
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European soccer, we'll be on Sirius XM and FS one
some of the week. Serious XM We're on all week iHeartRadio,
We're on all week FS one. We're on the third
hour on FS one today FS to first couple hours.
So sayer bets audio perhaps, but I'll tell you what
a weekend. I was talking to the staff this morning
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about this. This usually is a time that we need
to wedge NFL stories in to like the NBA playoffs.
But we've got so many things going on between the
Live and the PGA Tour and the US Open and
Caitlin Clark, we'll get there's a lot of stuff that
we just didn't talk about in previous years. It's been fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Kaitln Clark is kind of sort of dominating weekends in
sports right now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's crazy and the ratings show it. So Rory collapsed.
Bryson Deshamba don't know if I recall a guy turning
around his pr in a year's time. Now he's suddenly
relatable and likable. He didn't play great yesterday, but good
enough to win as Rory collapsed. But if you want
to know why I was never loyal to the PGA
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and I defended golfer's going to the Live Tour taking
advantage of a fine angel opportunity, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Yesterday is why two great alpha golfers. One stayed with
the PGA, one went to the Live Tour. It was
USA versus Europe, it was PGA versus the Live Tour.
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But I wasn't watching because of the PGA. I'm not
loyal to golf, PGA establishment. I'm loyal to golfers. I
will say the Masters does feel like it has Paul
as a course. But yesterday was great drama. One guy collapsing,
one guy surging, Bryson de Shambeau suddenly relatable. Two alphas,
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both long off the tour, trying to reclaim past glory.
I didn't watch it because of some golf association. That's
what golf is on television. It could be Nicholas an Army,
it could be Tiger and Phil. It doesn't matter to me.
I'm watching for the golfers. I felt bad for Rory.
He doesn't miss putts like that. Did You could sense
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the tension, But the PGA did not bring me to
a television set. Two alphas long off the t Rory
can't win those majors. To Shamboed won a US Open?
Could it be a second? He's not playing great, but
he's holding on with his new image, his new pr
This is where I supported them. And when these guys
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left the PGA tour, all the traditionalists, who are big hypocrites,
all the old heads were bothered. Really, if you went
to all those golf traditionalists fifty sixty, seventy years old
and you inspected their lives. They have left companies, they
have formed new companies, They have left jobs because they
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weren't treated well. And that's what Greg Norman and Phil
Mickelson complained about for a decade. We can't even own
our YouTube channels. We can't own our social rights. We
got a golf with amateurs. We don't get appearance fees,
treat star like stars, or they leave like you want
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to be treated. If you're in a law firm, you're
a partner, you're the best, and you're not treated like it.
And here comes another law firm, you're gonna take the
phone call. So I never buy everybody, I've said before
is morally flexible. Everybody to some degree is a hypocrite.
I support great golf. I'm rooting for Rory and bryceon
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de Shamba couldn't give a rip about the golf association
that supports him. Here's Bryson after.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
As much as it is as it is heartbreak for
some people. I mean, you know, it's heartbreak for me
at the PGA. And I really wanted this one. And
I turned the corner and saw I was a couple back,
and I said, nope, I'm not gonna let that happen.
I need to focus on figuring out how to make this,
make this happen. And I was a little lucky Rory
didn't make a couple putts that he could have coming in.
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I had an amazing up and down the last I
don't know what else to say. That's it's the dream
crime true.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
For the record, it is now up to the PGA
and the Live Tour to merge. But never forget how
strident the PGA was. All these traditional golf formations platforms
were very striping, very anti live and what they stood for.
And then you found out a few months, four, five, six, seven,
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eight months later they now they were taking theirs too.
Be always be very very careful around highly strident people
who live very rigid lives. The rigid senator, the rigid governor,
the rigid sports traditionalist were all hypocrites to some level.
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Yesterday was great TV, and you weren't watching for any
other reason than two alpha males long off the t
you both had. We we all had emotional connections to both.
I was kind of rooting for Rory to win. He didn't.
But now I like Bryson de Shamba, who's you know,
has kind of tweaked his image. He's very very relatable
and likable. Signed for over two and a half hours
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with every kid and every person, every fan that wanted
an autograph. I'm here for it. But that was great TV.
Now merge and figure out how to give us more
of this, not just in the majors.
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Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, so people freaked out. This stuff is so predictable.
Everybody's freaking out with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese is
picking on her and hard fouls. Okay, major League Baseball
is a good comp here because Major League Baseball in
the WNBA always feel like they're ignored, very protective of,
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you know, a way to play the game, very insular.
It's very much a pay your dues mentality. So when
good looking, cool Bryce Harper came in a major league
baseball basically out of high school in a little minor league,
he got into a fistfight with one of his teammates
they were throwing at him, it was very much, oh,
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you're the prodigy, you're the hot shot. And it didn't
last six seven games. It lasted like three years. You've
heard a lot of this preachy stuff. There's a way
to play the game. Baseball is very, very insular. There's
a way to play the game. There's unwritten rules, although
players can ever tell me what the unrented rules are.
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They changed per player, and the WNBA similarly ignored lamenting
the publicity. And here comes the Iowa hot shot and
it's pay your dues time, and they're pushing her around.
There's flagrant fouls. The WNBA to a fault, has a
little bit of us versus everybody else, and Caitlin Clark's
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an outsider and they're gonna make her pay her dues.
We've seen this in music, remember the VMA Awards, Kanye West,
Taylor Swift. I've seen this stuff before, and so of you.
Is it race? Is it jealousy? Probably a little bit
of both. There's all sorts of things converging here. You
see it in fraternities, hazing, you see it in military insular,
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very tribal, certain societies. This is how we operate. By
the way, when I used to take phone calls and
they just did radio, every guy that called defended hazing.
So why does this bother you loved hazing, you defended hazing.
This is hazing, but not nearly as ugly as the
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private hazing that we've had historically fraternities and the military.
It's a flagrant foul of which the NBA and the
WNBA have about the same number per game. NBA had
one hundred and thirty this year. WNBA last year had
like sixty five, which is half, but they have half
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the games. So I again, to me, this is all
very predictable. It is the WNBA. This is what Bryce
Harper went through. He went through it for years. I
don't think she will. She's a very good basketball player.
She's getting better. She's now at sixteen a game, six assists,
five rebounds. She's great with the ball in her hands.
She's fantastic, she sees the floor, she's a brilliant passer.
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It's all working out. But this is predictable that the
media doesn't quite know what to do with it yet.
The women Angel reason, Caitlin Clark do. Here's the postgame.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
She's a part of basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
You know, she's trying to play, make a play on
the ball and get the block. But yeah, I mean
it happens. I think it's just the emotion and the
passion that we play with. I think people love to
see that, and I think that's maybe not something that
was always appreciated in women's sports, and it should be.
I think that's what makes it fun. Like people are,
we're competitors. That's the way the game should be. It's
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gonna get a I see, it's gonna get physical, but
at the end of the day, both teams are just
trying to win.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
This is a win for women's basketball. These flagrant fowls
are a win. Yeah, I defended Draymond Green forever, so
I'm gonna be outraged by this. It's a flagrant fowl.
She got up and played okay eight Like, there's a
reason there's a classification for this foul because you get
about one hundred and thirty year in the NBA. And
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by the way, women who have committed flagrant fowls are
not all villains. Diana Tarassi had one last year. Is
she a villain? No, It's part of basketball. It's you know,
every industry has got a little ugly side, a little
provincial side, a little tribal side. This is it in basketball,
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NBA and the WNBA. But I'll say it again, the
women are figuring out how to handle it. It's the
people who parachute into this sport that never watched it
that don't understand the chippiness that you get in the WNBA.
When I was a local sports anchor and let's say
my local team, the Portland Trail Blazers or somebody did very,
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very well, then the news anchors who didn't know sports
would suddenly start talking sports and try to cover it,
and I'm like, no, you don't understand, that's just sports.
I'm feeling a lot of that here where people that
don't watch the WNBA, I'm one of them, parachute in
and are outraged. Spare me on your outrage when like
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six months ago, you didn't know the league existed. You
can fit, you can have an opinion that's not that's
counter to mine or doesn't align with mine. But I'm
so over outraged. Everybody's outraged on the internet, everybody's outraged
on TikTok. Give me a break. If you didn't know
something existed six months ago or didn't watch it, I'm
not interested in your outrage today. Caitlin's fine. Angel Reese
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is excellent. They're part of probably maybe the best WNBA
rookie class of all time. Take a deep breath. We're all,
especially Caitlin Clark gonna be okay. All right. By the way,
JJ Reddick, it looks like looks like he's he's getting
those suits fitted for the Lakers sideline.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Is that happening this week?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We get we're getting JJ Reddick to the Lakers. I'd
rather just have you listen to you rant about Kaitlin
Clark for another thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's a fun topic. Colin.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
She's become the most polarizing athlete in sports, and weirdly.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She said nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
She has not invited the polarization, like you know, Aaron
Rodgers will pop off about politics and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Lebron will get into that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Kitlen Clark's done nothing, but everybody has an opinion on
a weird yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Caitlin's very much like Dak Prescott of the Cowboys. Jerry
can say something crazy. You can have a Kaepernick issue, uh,
social change in America, And Dak always went to the
podium as the Dallas Cowboy quarterback and kind of put
a wet blanket on it and said, we're all okay,
We're all fine. That is part of leadership. By the way,
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part of it's my hat on forwards backwards rant I
don't care about other players doing that. I've always said
at the Wednesday press conference, don't start fires. Put him out.
You know, Baker Mayfield came into this league. He started fires. Baker,
Now if you listen to him, puts him out. That's
the difference. It's Caitlin Clark is doing a Dak Prescott.
She's very much putting out fires. That is part of leadership.
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She's obviously got tremendous leadership qualities. Dak Prescott doesn't till
the prettiest ball. I've said for years. He is as
good as any quarterback. He and Brady at the podium
are literally could teach a class on what you say
at the podium. As Jerry Jones is saying, it's up
crazy and there's a controversy in Mike and see thee
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lamb and Dak's like, I'm gonna better myself. Not that
kind of betting. Ha ha ha. Everything's fun, everything's easy.
It puts everybody at ease. She a she's a great leader.
And Angel Reese is playing a little bit of the
villain villains are part of sports. The Baltimore Ravens franchise
with Ray Lewis, they love being the villains. It was
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good for the brand. It was good with that rivalry
with New England. New England, by the way in their dynasty,
was viewed as villains. The flight Gate Spygate villains are part.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But they invited it with debate the flight Gate and Spygate.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
They invited that, and Bryce Harper invited. I'd have to
give them one good looking guy who loved baseball that
didn't play the way.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That's not all.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Not all people invite heat. Sometimes want it. Sometimes you're
a prodigy. Sometimes there's jealousy. Isn't about the star. Jealousy
is about people that view the star as a threat.
Caitlin Clark is viewed as a threat to some of
the players.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But she didn't create it that exactly. She hasn't done anything.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But you said, don't start fires, put them out, Angel,
he started a fire when she closed line. Clark, if
you want to put the fire out, Oh my bad
reached down and help to pick them up. Watch Angel
Reese's reaction after closed lines. Here just turns around the
other way like that well it is a screwer, like,
that's what that that's what that will we've all found somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, that's I'll reach out.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
My bad, my fault, that's my bad. But this is
this is professional. This is a rivalry. Nobody's helping Lebron
off the floor, Bill Lambier in his prime off the floor.
These are rivalries also, people are setting up, setting the tone,
and this is going to be the rivalry. Caitlin, you
come into the lane. I'm not helping you up. I'm
going after it. I've seen that much. Is that how
you operate?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You knock somebody down, you're not helping them out.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But I mean I've seen it my whole life in basketball.
I mean there's the un you know, here's the unwritten
rule in basketball for guards. All right, you can get
to the basket. Here come the trees. Steph Curry, you
want to come and score at the basket, do a
little floater and embarrass me. My elbow might meet your forehead.
That is basketball. That's thug life right there. No, that's
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that's that's no. Hey, you you try to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
David Sterton loved that NBA with all that it would
lead to fights. They had to stamp that out, Colin,
get rid of that nonsense to help the leak well.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Some guys are finesse, some guys like me out there
like physicality.
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
Colin Right, Colin Wrong? On a Monday, Here we go
where Colin was right? Oh, the live tour will Ruin
Golf I said, nonsense, You're gonna want to watch Brooks, Koepka, Bryson,
De Shambo, Phil Mickelson. You'll keep watching them. Stop with
the outrage and what did you do yesterday? You were
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locked in to Bryson to Shambo from the Live Tour
against Rory McElroy from the PGA Tour. The bottom line
is we watch golf for golfers, not the course in
most instances, and not because of the PGA Live Tour
isn't ruining anything. It is men stars who were overlooked
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and treated poorly for years saying I'm gonna make a
move that's best for me and my family. You watched yesterday,
all golf fans watched. The Live Tour didn't ruin anything.
These two tours now need to merge.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Dan Hurley didn't take the Lakers job. I said sixty
five thirty five. If he wouldn't, there's going to be
plenty of jobs opening up, about six to seven a year.
Keep your eye on the Knicks over the next two
to three years, the Lakers ownership, the roster, the age
of Lebron. There are simply limitations. Not to mention in
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Kansas and Yukon specifically are the two best college basketball programs.
Why would Bill self and Dan Hurley take an NBA
grade gig where the brand is bigger and better than.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The roster where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Dodgers only have the fifth best record in baseball.
Some of it injuries, most of it though the middle
and bottom of the batting order has been weak. They're lucky,
fortunate that the Podreys aren't so hot. The division they're
in is weak, but they haven't played great. They've been
hot and cold, in a bit streaky. For all the
money they spent, they didn't spend it to be the
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fifth best record in Major League Baseball. Where Colin was right,
Caitlin Clark said, take a deep breath. She'll get better,
she'll get comfortable. Just have her stop playing New York
easily the best team in the league. Well, yesterday she
dropped twenty three. The Fever topped the Chicago Sky again.
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She's averaging sixteen points, six assists, five rebounds. She's getting
her feet under She is a very good player. Like
Bryce Harper and baseball. This is a very insular league
that feels they were ignored. They're gonna be really chippy
when she gets near the basket. Take a deep breath.
She's getting better. The Fever Titlin Clark. They're gonna be fine.
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Where Colin was right, Jalen Brown looks like the alpha
for the Celtics. Layton Games, not Jason Tatum. They're both great,
but I've said Tatum isn't as aggressive or as alpha
historically as number ones are now. He is aesthetically more
pleasing optically, he's more fun watch. But Jalen Brown, to me,
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has the feel of d Wade aggressive, we'll get on
the floor, we'll guard the other team's best player, physical
and laid In Games wants the shot at times more
than Tatum. Where Colin was right, Brandon Aiyuk Niners receiver.
According to reports now they are not close in their negotiations.
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I have said they drafted a receiver in the first round.
They just re signed Jennings, the sixth round receiver who's
become a nice possession guy. I do not think going
forward when you've got Deebo and Christian McCaffrey, this is
Kyle Shanahan's offense, not Brandon Ayuk's. I would be shocked
if they had him at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Mike Tomlin got an extension. I kind of felt like
this season was going to be a proven year. Their
last big playoff win was twenty ten against Baltimore, fourteen
years ago. Their last playoff win was in twenty sixteen.
They just feel like offensively they can't quite get it
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right in an offensive league. I was surprised by the
extension where Colin was right. Rumors now the Dallas Mavericks,
if they have a chance, will draft Brawnie James in
the second round. I kept saying, it's a weak draft.
I don't think it's a favor to draft Lebron's kid,
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who was projecting to be a draft pick before the
cardiac arrest. He's athletic, he'll defend, he's smart, he can
shoot threes. Again, nobody's saying he's a top ten pick.
He's not. And in a great draft, maybe he's not draftable.
This is one of the weaker drafts in recent.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Memory where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
When the United States men's team lost to Columbia five
to one, in every kid named Liam and Beckett and
Ethan freaked out. I said, we're a young team, it's temperamental,
it will be okay. What do you know? Four days
later a draw with Great Brazil. The bottom line is
the United States men's national team has a bunch of young,
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skilled players playing overseas just entering their prime. They're inconsistent.
Greg Berhalter does need to get out of the group
stage again in the next World Cup. But young teams
tend to have big swings. That's what this young United
States Men national team, even in friendlies before COPA, has shown.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Us where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
First time in modern spring football history. Both playoff games
for the UFL exceeded one million in television ratings. I
believe for years, and I've been wrong twice. There is
an audience. I don't know if it's in person or television,
but there is an audience for spring football. Football ends.
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Take a couple of months off March Madness, NFL free agency,
then you bring it in. You play a very succinct season,
get right to the playoffs, in the super Bowl or
whatever they want to call their championship game. Eventually there
is an audience for it. We've bet on everything. Now
you can't tell me spring football. They merged two leaks.
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The quality of play isn't bad. The top two or
three teams are pretty good, and they got over a
million for both playoff games. Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's
bring in Albert Breer, senior reporter, Monday Morning Quarterback Right
Let's start with the Aaron Rodgers absence. It's a choice.
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He attended the voluntary OTAs. He did not attend these,
So I mean Robert Sala called it an unexcused absence,
which just poured gas on it, I think a little bit.
Let's start with that. What was your opinion on Sala?
He could have kept that to himself, coming out and
saying publicly at the podium it's unexcused. Was that a
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mistake by solom.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
No, because I think that they felt like internally it
would be opening Pandora's box if they did excuse it,
they could have twenty guys next year coming to them
and asking for mandatory mini camp or something else mandatory
off if they allowed this. And I think the important
thing is the way it was handled internally. They went
to Aaron and sat down and talked to him about
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this and talked through the whole thing. And I'm not
saying Aaron loves the idea of being fined, but he
did understand why it was an unexcused absence. You know,
with the line there being one team, one set of rules,
and you know, here's the other part of it, Colin,
Like I I think the spring is for is more
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for guys who are in year two, year three, year four,
year five, And they really felt like through the ten
ota practices they were able to get enough out of that,
or they could make the mini camp something that could
be a little bit more geared towards some of those
younger guys. Aaron got the work that he needed to
get in. We could argue about the the handling and
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of handling of it, of course, like I personally would
have loved to have seen Aaron Rodgers come out and
explain it himself so his coaches or his teammates wouldn't
have to. But I don't think this is going to
be a big deal when the Jets report in the summer.
I think it's a big deal because nothing's happening in
the NFL right now in the middle of June.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So Trevor Lawrence signed an extension. I do wonder because
that city. It feels like Ken Griffy with the Mariners,
like he was basically going to get Safeco built. He
saved the team from leaving again. And I feel like
Trevor Lawrence in this franchise, if they were in London
in four years, I wouldn't be shocked. I kind of
feel his circumstances are different than Tua and Dak. They
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just are. He was a number one pick. He's been
viewed as sort of generational, maybe disappointing. But do you
think the Trevor Lawrence contract changes the market?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
No, because I think all these guys were going to
get paid in this range, like over fifty, not too
much over fifty. I mean, i'd ask you, Colin, would
you rather have Trevor or Tua? Would you rather have
Trevor or Dak? Would you rather have Trevor or Jordan Love?
And I think for most NFL teams at least, the
answer would be they'd rather have Trevor than those three guys.
So paying him before those three guys got paid makes
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perfect sense because if any of those guys got to
a certain point, you were going to have to leap
frog them. And ultimately, I think this is about paying
him for where you think he's going to be, not
where he is right now. Is he the type of
generational guy that we all thought he might be, you know,
back in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, Maybe not, you know,
like because you know, I think he was seen you
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know in NFL circles as being on that luck Lway
Manning type of tier as a prospect. But he's been
a really good player and his circumstances have been really crappy.
Came into the league the Erba Meyer year was what
it was as a complete disaster, comes back in year two,
had a great second year in the league, right like
in Lee's one of the greatest playoff comebacks in NFL history,
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and then had a little bit of a bumpy third year.
And so I think if you look at a kid
who's sort of ridden all of that out, there are
a lot of guys who I think would be in
a worse spot than he's in. And I think they
believe that if they can stabilize things around him, they're
gonna get a much better player in year five, year six,
year seven. Here's the other thing. If Doug Peterson doesn't
wind up being the guy in Jacksonville, the next guy's
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not going to throw Trevor Lawrence out. The next guy's
going to be telling ownership, I can make it work.
I can enhance Trevor Lawrence, which is another reason to
take care of him. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I don't think Brandon Nyuk is going to be a
Niner at the trade deadline. I think this offense runs
through Shanahan's brain and Christian McCaffrey's feet legs. I think
Ayuk is replaceable. They drafted two receivers, they resigned Jennings,
and I think he's a really good player that a
team like New England could use, or maybe at Carolina.
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What is your take on the stories today that it's
it's it's they're not close the Niners in Auk who's
a really a remarkable player.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I think there are two things like that I would
say to give you some optimism that he could still
be there. Number one is that they did get Christian
McCaffrey done aggressively, and I think they had to do
McCaffrey before they did Ayuk because if you pay Ayuke
twenty nine thirty thirty one million dollars a year now,
the price of McCaffrey might go up. So you had
(28:31):
to take care of McCaffrey first. The second thing is,
you know, our mutual friend Mike Silver reported that they
were twenty six million. That's not that far off. And
a lot of times these things get ugliest towards the end,
and the DEVO thing was not clean until it was
at the very end. And I would tell you this,
and I do feel strongly about this part of it.
(28:51):
I think if you fed John Lynch Kyle Shanahan truth
sire im and ask them who would you rather have
in the roster Deebo, Samuel or Brandon Ayuk going forward,
I think they would answer au. They love Debo. Debo
can do a lot of different things for them, but
Debo is like a super charge gadget player. Ayuk is
more of a typical number one receiver who can beat
(29:12):
man coverage and you can build an offense around. And
so do I think they're going to go to Justin
Jefferson numbers to get Ayyuk signed no. And if I
draws land in this line in the sand there and
says I'm not going to take less than that, then
you know, maybe he is traded. But you know, if
there is some level of compromise, I still think the
Niners would like to get something done with Ayuk, and
(29:33):
I don't think the door is closed on that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So there is We had a story earlier. Jmac had
this where the Cowboys are going to prioritize the position
over the talent. Dack over CD and Micah. Now it
is a wide receiver league. College provides about fifteen guys
who can play immediately year one and be productive. So
I can see slowing down a little on CD Lamb.
(29:55):
But edge rushers there are not a lot of great ones,
and Mike is there. I think I would oritize a
Micah or a CD over Dack because I think either
of your picks their first round picks and they've exceeded expectations.
And so I think the message you send to your
locker room is we draft you early and you hit,
We're gonna take care of you. My question to you is,
(30:17):
if you paid Dack sixty, can you also pay CD
and Micah or are you insanely top heavy on the roster.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, and that's a fair question. I think. Like one
thing that's interesting is that Justin Jefferson thing hit them
at both with both barrels right like, So Justin Jefferson
obviously raises the bar for receivers, and CD had seventeen
hundred yards last year, so he's gonna ask for something
not far off from what Jefferson got. And it also
raises the bar for non quarterbacks, which Mike is gonna
(30:46):
ask to be the highest paid non quarterback. And so
you go from Nick Bost at thirty four now at
Jefferson at thirty five. And I think the Michael thing
is in particular or interesting, okay, because you think about
the message that it's going to send it a law
lock room. What they do with Micah Parsons here. They
made Zach Martin waite, They made DeMarcus Lawrence mitwait, they
made Dak Prescott waite the last time. So the guys
(31:09):
in that locker room can look at ownership right now
and said, you made all of these guys wait until
after four years, until after their contracts were up, to
take care of them. What does that mean to me?
And that's why the MiCT thinks so interesting because he's
only been in the league three years. CD they've made
waight right, So how do you handle the Micah Parsons
thing versus how you've handled Lamb now Prescott now, Prescott
(31:33):
before Lawrence, before Zach Martin before even like a Dez Bryant,
if you want to go further back. It's just really
interesting because the Cowboys have been burned so many times
by waiting on these things, and now they've got a
guy who wants to get paid early. How do they
handle that? How does that resonate in the locker room?
That part's interesting. And then the DAK thing, of course,
(31:54):
you have to be concerned with after what Trevor Lawrence got.
You know what damage waiting could do from here on out.
If you're waiting and Jordan Love and Tua get paid,
does that raise mistakes on what you got to pay
DAC It certainly could. And the franchise tag after the year,
I'm sure you know this Colin would cost them over
eighty million dollars, So that's not going to happen either.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I want to circle back to the jets. I was
told and I know the area, but I didn't want
to report it. I was told it was not only overseas, but.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Other side of the R overseas.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, I was I was told the place that it
was not London. No, London's a quick jaunt from New York.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So is is my you might connect through London? I
think right now, Yeah, maybe you would connect?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, so I would say this, Uh, it was it
was true international travel, not just you know JFK the Heathrow.
Was it a vacation or was it an I heard
the word event? What does that mean event?
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah? I just think so you use the phrase important
to him? You know, I think that that is probably
the operative term here, and that I think is why,
probably why Robert Slack couldn't excuse it at least the
way I look at it, right, Like, because then what
would Garrett Wilson or Sauce Gardner or you know, whoever
(33:23):
else pick a name of a young guy in that team,
Quinn Williams, what might be important to them that they
could come come to you with next year? Like what
could that be? So yeah, I think that was sort
of where this was a little tricky and where you know,
they had to sit down with Aaron and talk through
it now, like again like this is this going to
have a long term effect on the team. I think
(33:45):
that sort of depends on how camp starts. And Aaron
is still beloved in that locker room, so I can't
imagine there be a problem in camp, And is it
gonna be a problem when the season starts Like that
to me would be the bigger question, because of course,
if they start zering too, whether it's fair or not,
everybody's gonna be tying all of it back to that, right,
So I think that's where the real questions are to me.
(34:05):
If like and I think you know, you and I
are in the same wavelength here. This is just about
getting the guy's mind right and him being where he
needs to be. Fine, you could have managed it a
little differently, but fine. But you do sort of open
up those questions down the line where you know, if
the team does struggle in any way, people are going
to tie it back to this. In New York. Being
(34:27):
New York, we know how that can turn the temperature up.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh it was good, Albert Breer. We both kind of
think we know where it is. I'm not going to
report it. I don't want to be the first, but
I kind of think I know where it is, and
you feel the same way. You can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah right.
Uh Nantucket's around the corner for you, my friend, get
the spo.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Getting some color now too. I was out of the
lacrosse tournament this weekend. I think I'm I think I'm
starting to build my base layer up.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Good. See anybody
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, it is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles.
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of your day. One hour from now. Where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong This week because of all the soccer,
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European soccer, we'll be on Sirius XM and FS one
some of the week. Serious XM We're on all week iHeartRadio,
We're on all week FS one. We're on the third
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So sayer bets audio perhaps, but I'll tell you what
a weekend. I was talking to the staff this morning
(01:09):
about this. This usually is a time that we need
to wedge NFL stories in to like the NBA playoffs.
But we've got so many things going on between the
Live and the PGA Tour and the US Open and
Caitlin Clark, we'll get there's a lot of stuff that
we just didn't talk about in previous years. It's been fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Kaitln Clark is kind of sort of dominating weekends in
sports right now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's crazy and the ratings show it. So Rory collapsed.
Bryson Deshamba don't know if I recall a guy turning
around his pr in a year's time. Now he's suddenly
relatable and likable. He didn't play great yesterday, but good
enough to win as Rory collapsed. But if you want
to know why I was never loyal to the PGA
(01:54):
and I defended golfer's going to the Live Tour taking
advantage of a fine angel opportunity, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Yesterday is why two great alpha golfers. One stayed with
the PGA, one went to the Live Tour. It was
USA versus Europe, it was PGA versus the Live Tour.
(02:17):
But I wasn't watching because of the PGA. I'm not
loyal to golf, PGA establishment. I'm loyal to golfers. I
will say the Masters does feel like it has Paul
as a course. But yesterday was great drama. One guy collapsing,
one guy surging, Bryson de Shambeau suddenly relatable. Two alphas,
(02:39):
both long off the tour, trying to reclaim past glory.
I didn't watch it because of some golf association. That's
what golf is on television. It could be Nicholas an Army,
it could be Tiger and Phil. It doesn't matter to me.
I'm watching for the golfers. I felt bad for Rory.
He doesn't miss putts like that. Did You could sense
(03:01):
the tension, But the PGA did not bring me to
a television set. Two alphas long off the t Rory
can't win those majors. To Shamboed won a US Open?
Could it be a second? He's not playing great, but
he's holding on with his new image, his new pr
This is where I supported them. And when these guys
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left the PGA tour, all the traditionalists, who are big hypocrites,
all the old heads were bothered. Really, if you went
to all those golf traditionalists fifty sixty, seventy years old
and you inspected their lives. They have left companies, they
have formed new companies, They have left jobs because they
(03:44):
weren't treated well. And that's what Greg Norman and Phil
Mickelson complained about for a decade. We can't even own
our YouTube channels. We can't own our social rights. We
got a golf with amateurs. We don't get appearance fees,
treat star like stars, or they leave like you want
(04:04):
to be treated. If you're in a law firm, you're
a partner, you're the best, and you're not treated like it.
And here comes another law firm, you're gonna take the
phone call. So I never buy everybody, I've said before
is morally flexible. Everybody to some degree is a hypocrite.
I support great golf. I'm rooting for Rory and bryceon
(04:27):
de Shamba couldn't give a rip about the golf association
that supports him. Here's Bryson after.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
As much as it is as it is heartbreak for
some people. I mean, you know, it's heartbreak for me
at the PGA. And I really wanted this one. And
I turned the corner and saw I was a couple back,
and I said, nope, I'm not gonna let that happen.
I need to focus on figuring out how to make this,
make this happen. And I was a little lucky Rory
didn't make a couple putts that he could have coming in.
(04:58):
I had an amazing up and down the last I
don't know what else to say. That's it's the dream
crime true.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
For the record, it is now up to the PGA
and the Live Tour to merge. But never forget how
strident the PGA was. All these traditional golf formations platforms
were very striping, very anti live and what they stood for.
And then you found out a few months, four, five, six, seven,
(05:27):
eight months later they now they were taking theirs too.
Be always be very very careful around highly strident people
who live very rigid lives. The rigid senator, the rigid governor,
the rigid sports traditionalist were all hypocrites to some level.
(05:50):
Yesterday was great TV, and you weren't watching for any
other reason than two alpha males long off the t
you both had. We we all had emotional connections to both.
I was kind of rooting for Rory to win. He didn't.
But now I like Bryson de Shamba, who's you know,
has kind of tweaked his image. He's very very relatable
and likable. Signed for over two and a half hours
(06:13):
with every kid and every person, every fan that wanted
an autograph. I'm here for it. But that was great TV.
Now merge and figure out how to give us more
of this, not just in the majors.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
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Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, so people freaked out. This stuff is so predictable.
Everybody's freaking out with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese is
picking on her and hard fouls. Okay, major League Baseball
is a good comp here because Major League Baseball in
the WNBA always feel like they're ignored, very protective of,
(06:51):
you know, a way to play the game, very insular.
It's very much a pay your dues mentality. So when
good looking, cool Bryce Harper came in a major league
baseball basically out of high school in a little minor league,
he got into a fistfight with one of his teammates
they were throwing at him, it was very much, oh,
(07:12):
you're the prodigy, you're the hot shot. And it didn't
last six seven games. It lasted like three years. You've
heard a lot of this preachy stuff. There's a way
to play the game. Baseball is very, very insular. There's
a way to play the game. There's unwritten rules, although
players can ever tell me what the unrented rules are.
(07:33):
They changed per player, and the WNBA similarly ignored lamenting
the publicity. And here comes the Iowa hot shot and
it's pay your dues time, and they're pushing her around.
There's flagrant fouls. The WNBA to a fault, has a
little bit of us versus everybody else, and Caitlin Clark's
(07:55):
an outsider and they're gonna make her pay her dues.
We've seen this in music, remember the VMA Awards, Kanye West,
Taylor Swift. I've seen this stuff before, and so of you.
Is it race? Is it jealousy? Probably a little bit
of both. There's all sorts of things converging here. You
see it in fraternities, hazing, you see it in military insular,
(08:19):
very tribal, certain societies. This is how we operate. By
the way, when I used to take phone calls and
they just did radio, every guy that called defended hazing.
So why does this bother you loved hazing, you defended hazing.
This is hazing, but not nearly as ugly as the
(08:41):
private hazing that we've had historically fraternities and the military.
It's a flagrant foul of which the NBA and the
WNBA have about the same number per game. NBA had
one hundred and thirty this year. WNBA last year had
like sixty five, which is half, but they have half
(09:01):
the games. So I again, to me, this is all
very predictable. It is the WNBA. This is what Bryce
Harper went through. He went through it for years. I
don't think she will. She's a very good basketball player.
She's getting better. She's now at sixteen a game, six assists,
five rebounds. She's great with the ball in her hands.
She's fantastic, she sees the floor, she's a brilliant passer.
(09:22):
It's all working out. But this is predictable that the
media doesn't quite know what to do with it yet.
The women Angel reason, Caitlin Clark do. Here's the postgame.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
She's a part of basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
You know, she's trying to play, make a play on
the ball and get the block. But yeah, I mean
it happens. I think it's just the emotion and the
passion that we play with. I think people love to
see that, and I think that's maybe not something that
was always appreciated in women's sports, and it should be.
I think that's what makes it fun. Like people are,
we're competitors. That's the way the game should be. It's
(09:59):
gonna get a I see, it's gonna get physical, but
at the end of the day, both teams are just
trying to win.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
This is a win for women's basketball. These flagrant fowls
are a win. Yeah, I defended Draymond Green forever, so
I'm gonna be outraged by this. It's a flagrant fowl.
She got up and played okay eight Like, there's a
reason there's a classification for this foul because you get
about one hundred and thirty year in the NBA. And
(10:27):
by the way, women who have committed flagrant fowls are
not all villains. Diana Tarassi had one last year. Is
she a villain? No, It's part of basketball. It's you know,
every industry has got a little ugly side, a little
provincial side, a little tribal side. This is it in basketball,
(10:49):
NBA and the WNBA. But I'll say it again, the
women are figuring out how to handle it. It's the
people who parachute into this sport that never watched it
that don't understand the chippiness that you get in the WNBA.
When I was a local sports anchor and let's say
my local team, the Portland Trail Blazers or somebody did very,
(11:11):
very well, then the news anchors who didn't know sports
would suddenly start talking sports and try to cover it,
and I'm like, no, you don't understand, that's just sports.
I'm feeling a lot of that here where people that
don't watch the WNBA, I'm one of them, parachute in
and are outraged. Spare me on your outrage when like
(11:31):
six months ago, you didn't know the league existed. You
can fit, you can have an opinion that's not that's
counter to mine or doesn't align with mine. But I'm
so over outraged. Everybody's outraged on the internet, everybody's outraged
on TikTok. Give me a break. If you didn't know
something existed six months ago or didn't watch it, I'm
not interested in your outrage today. Caitlin's fine. Angel Reese
(11:56):
is excellent. They're part of probably maybe the best WNBA
rookie class of all time. Take a deep breath. We're all,
especially Caitlin Clark gonna be okay. All right. By the way,
JJ Reddick, it looks like looks like he's he's getting
those suits fitted for the Lakers sideline.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Is that happening this week?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We get we're getting JJ Reddick to the Lakers. I'd
rather just have you listen to you rant about Kaitlin
Clark for another thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's a fun topic. Colin.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
She's become the most polarizing athlete in sports, and weirdly.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She said nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
She has not invited the polarization, like you know, Aaron
Rodgers will pop off about politics and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Lebron will get into that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Kitlen Clark's done nothing, but everybody has an opinion on
a weird yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Caitlin's very much like Dak Prescott of the Cowboys. Jerry
can say something crazy. You can have a Kaepernick issue, uh,
social change in America, And Dak always went to the
podium as the Dallas Cowboy quarterback and kind of put
a wet blanket on it and said, we're all okay,
We're all fine. That is part of leadership. By the way,
(13:07):
part of it's my hat on forwards backwards rant I
don't care about other players doing that. I've always said
at the Wednesday press conference, don't start fires. Put him out.
You know, Baker Mayfield came into this league. He started fires. Baker,
Now if you listen to him, puts him out. That's
the difference. It's Caitlin Clark is doing a Dak Prescott.
She's very much putting out fires. That is part of leadership.
(13:30):
She's obviously got tremendous leadership qualities. Dak Prescott doesn't till
the prettiest ball. I've said for years. He is as
good as any quarterback. He and Brady at the podium
are literally could teach a class on what you say
at the podium. As Jerry Jones is saying, it's up
crazy and there's a controversy in Mike and see thee
(13:50):
lamb and Dak's like, I'm gonna better myself. Not that
kind of betting. Ha ha ha. Everything's fun, everything's easy.
It puts everybody at ease. She a she's a great leader.
And Angel Reese is playing a little bit of the
villain villains are part of sports. The Baltimore Ravens franchise
with Ray Lewis, they love being the villains. It was
(14:11):
good for the brand. It was good with that rivalry
with New England. New England, by the way in their dynasty,
was viewed as villains. The flight Gate Spygate villains are part.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But they invited it with debate the flight Gate and Spygate.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
They invited that, and Bryce Harper invited. I'd have to
give them one good looking guy who loved baseball that
didn't play the way.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That's not all.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Not all people invite heat. Sometimes want it. Sometimes you're
a prodigy. Sometimes there's jealousy. Isn't about the star. Jealousy
is about people that view the star as a threat.
Caitlin Clark is viewed as a threat to some of
the players.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But she didn't create it that exactly. She hasn't done anything.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But you said, don't start fires, put them out, Angel,
he started a fire when she closed line. Clark, if
you want to put the fire out, Oh my bad
reached down and help to pick them up. Watch Angel
Reese's reaction after closed lines. Here just turns around the
other way like that well it is a screwer, like,
that's what that that's what that will we've all found somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, that's I'll reach out.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
My bad, my fault, that's my bad. But this is
this is professional. This is a rivalry. Nobody's helping Lebron
off the floor, Bill Lambier in his prime off the floor.
These are rivalries also, people are setting up, setting the tone,
and this is going to be the rivalry. Caitlin, you
come into the lane. I'm not helping you up. I'm
going after it. I've seen that much. Is that how
you operate?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You knock somebody down, you're not helping them out.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But I mean I've seen it my whole life in basketball.
I mean there's the un you know, here's the unwritten
rule in basketball for guards. All right, you can get
to the basket. Here come the trees. Steph Curry, you
want to come and score at the basket, do a
little floater and embarrass me. My elbow might meet your forehead.
That is basketball. That's thug life right there. No, that's
(15:59):
that's that's no. Hey, you you try to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
David Sterton loved that NBA with all that it would
lead to fights. They had to stamp that out, Colin,
get rid of that nonsense to help the leak well.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Some guys are finesse, some guys like me out there
like physicality.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
Colin Right, Colin Wrong? On a Monday, Here we go
where Colin was right? Oh, the live tour will Ruin
Golf I said, nonsense, You're gonna want to watch Brooks, Koepka, Bryson,
De Shambo, Phil Mickelson. You'll keep watching them. Stop with
the outrage and what did you do yesterday? You were
(17:17):
locked in to Bryson to Shambo from the Live Tour
against Rory McElroy from the PGA Tour. The bottom line
is we watch golf for golfers, not the course in
most instances, and not because of the PGA Live Tour
isn't ruining anything. It is men stars who were overlooked
(17:40):
and treated poorly for years saying I'm gonna make a
move that's best for me and my family. You watched yesterday,
all golf fans watched. The Live Tour didn't ruin anything.
These two tours now need to merge.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Dan Hurley didn't take the Lakers job. I said sixty
five thirty five. If he wouldn't, there's going to be
plenty of jobs opening up, about six to seven a year.
Keep your eye on the Knicks over the next two
to three years, the Lakers ownership, the roster, the age
of Lebron. There are simply limitations. Not to mention in
(18:16):
Kansas and Yukon specifically are the two best college basketball programs.
Why would Bill self and Dan Hurley take an NBA
grade gig where the brand is bigger and better than.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The roster where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Dodgers only have the fifth best record in baseball.
Some of it injuries, most of it though the middle
and bottom of the batting order has been weak. They're lucky,
fortunate that the Podreys aren't so hot. The division they're
in is weak, but they haven't played great. They've been
hot and cold, in a bit streaky. For all the
money they spent, they didn't spend it to be the
(18:52):
fifth best record in Major League Baseball. Where Colin was right,
Caitlin Clark said, take a deep breath. She'll get better,
she'll get comfortable. Just have her stop playing New York
easily the best team in the league. Well, yesterday she
dropped twenty three. The Fever topped the Chicago Sky again.
(19:15):
She's averaging sixteen points, six assists, five rebounds. She's getting
her feet under She is a very good player. Like
Bryce Harper and baseball. This is a very insular league
that feels they were ignored. They're gonna be really chippy
when she gets near the basket. Take a deep breath.
She's getting better. The Fever Titlin Clark. They're gonna be fine.
(19:41):
Where Colin was right, Jalen Brown looks like the alpha
for the Celtics. Layton Games, not Jason Tatum. They're both great,
but I've said Tatum isn't as aggressive or as alpha
historically as number ones are now. He is aesthetically more
pleasing optically, he's more fun watch. But Jalen Brown, to me,
(20:02):
has the feel of d Wade aggressive, we'll get on
the floor, we'll guard the other team's best player, physical
and laid In Games wants the shot at times more
than Tatum. Where Colin was right, Brandon Aiyuk Niners receiver.
According to reports now they are not close in their negotiations.
(20:23):
I have said they drafted a receiver in the first round.
They just re signed Jennings, the sixth round receiver who's
become a nice possession guy. I do not think going
forward when you've got Deebo and Christian McCaffrey, this is
Kyle Shanahan's offense, not Brandon Ayuk's. I would be shocked
if they had him at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Mike Tomlin got an extension. I kind of felt like
this season was going to be a proven year. Their
last big playoff win was twenty ten against Baltimore, fourteen
years ago. Their last playoff win was in twenty sixteen.
They just feel like offensively they can't quite get it
(21:06):
right in an offensive league. I was surprised by the
extension where Colin was right. Rumors now the Dallas Mavericks,
if they have a chance, will draft Brawnie James in
the second round. I kept saying, it's a weak draft.
I don't think it's a favor to draft Lebron's kid,
(21:29):
who was projecting to be a draft pick before the
cardiac arrest. He's athletic, he'll defend, he's smart, he can
shoot threes. Again, nobody's saying he's a top ten pick.
He's not. And in a great draft, maybe he's not draftable.
This is one of the weaker drafts in recent.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Memory where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
When the United States men's team lost to Columbia five
to one, in every kid named Liam and Beckett and
Ethan freaked out. I said, we're a young team, it's temperamental,
it will be okay. What do you know? Four days
later a draw with Great Brazil. The bottom line is
the United States men's national team has a bunch of young,
(22:14):
skilled players playing overseas just entering their prime. They're inconsistent.
Greg Berhalter does need to get out of the group
stage again in the next World Cup. But young teams
tend to have big swings. That's what this young United
States Men national team, even in friendlies before COPA, has shown.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Us where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
First time in modern spring football history. Both playoff games
for the UFL exceeded one million in television ratings. I
believe for years, and I've been wrong twice. There is
an audience. I don't know if it's in person or television,
but there is an audience for spring football. Football ends.
(23:00):
Take a couple of months off March Madness, NFL free agency,
then you bring it in. You play a very succinct season,
get right to the playoffs, in the super Bowl or
whatever they want to call their championship game. Eventually there
is an audience for it. We've bet on everything. Now
you can't tell me spring football. They merged two leaks.
(23:23):
The quality of play isn't bad. The top two or
three teams are pretty good, and they got over a
million for both playoff games. Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's
bring in Albert Breer, senior reporter, Monday Morning Quarterback Right
Let's start with the Aaron Rodgers absence. It's a choice.
(23:45):
He attended the voluntary OTAs. He did not attend these,
So I mean Robert Sala called it an unexcused absence,
which just poured gas on it, I think a little bit.
Let's start with that. What was your opinion on Sala?
He could have kept that to himself, coming out and
saying publicly at the podium it's unexcused. Was that a
(24:07):
mistake by solom.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
No, because I think that they felt like internally it
would be opening Pandora's box if they did excuse it,
they could have twenty guys next year coming to them
and asking for mandatory mini camp or something else mandatory
off if they allowed this. And I think the important
thing is the way it was handled internally. They went
to Aaron and sat down and talked to him about
(24:30):
this and talked through the whole thing. And I'm not
saying Aaron loves the idea of being fined, but he
did understand why it was an unexcused absence. You know,
with the line there being one team, one set of rules,
and you know, here's the other part of it, Colin,
Like I I think the spring is for is more
(24:51):
for guys who are in year two, year three, year four,
year five, And they really felt like through the ten
ota practices they were able to get enough out of that,
or they could make the mini camp something that could
be a little bit more geared towards some of those
younger guys. Aaron got the work that he needed to
get in. We could argue about the the handling and
(25:11):
of handling of it, of course, like I personally would
have loved to have seen Aaron Rodgers come out and
explain it himself so his coaches or his teammates wouldn't
have to. But I don't think this is going to
be a big deal when the Jets report in the summer.
I think it's a big deal because nothing's happening in
the NFL right now in the middle of June.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So Trevor Lawrence signed an extension. I do wonder because
that city. It feels like Ken Griffy with the Mariners,
like he was basically going to get Safeco built. He
saved the team from leaving again. And I feel like
Trevor Lawrence in this franchise, if they were in London
in four years, I wouldn't be shocked. I kind of
feel his circumstances are different than Tua and Dak. They
(25:54):
just are. He was a number one pick. He's been
viewed as sort of generational, maybe disappointing. But do you
think the Trevor Lawrence contract changes the market?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
No, because I think all these guys were going to
get paid in this range, like over fifty, not too
much over fifty. I mean, i'd ask you, Colin, would
you rather have Trevor or Tua? Would you rather have
Trevor or Dak? Would you rather have Trevor or Jordan Love?
And I think for most NFL teams at least, the
answer would be they'd rather have Trevor than those three guys.
So paying him before those three guys got paid makes
(26:28):
perfect sense because if any of those guys got to
a certain point, you were going to have to leap
frog them. And ultimately, I think this is about paying
him for where you think he's going to be, not
where he is right now. Is he the type of
generational guy that we all thought he might be, you know,
back in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, Maybe not, you know,
like because you know, I think he was seen you
(26:48):
know in NFL circles as being on that luck Lway
Manning type of tier as a prospect. But he's been
a really good player and his circumstances have been really crappy.
Came into the league the Erba Meyer year was what
it was as a complete disaster, comes back in year two,
had a great second year in the league, right like
in Lee's one of the greatest playoff comebacks in NFL history,
(27:09):
and then had a little bit of a bumpy third year.
And so I think if you look at a kid
who's sort of ridden all of that out, there are
a lot of guys who I think would be in
a worse spot than he's in. And I think they
believe that if they can stabilize things around him, they're
gonna get a much better player in year five, year six,
year seven. Here's the other thing. If Doug Peterson doesn't
wind up being the guy in Jacksonville, the next guy's
(27:31):
not going to throw Trevor Lawrence out. The next guy's
going to be telling ownership, I can make it work.
I can enhance Trevor Lawrence, which is another reason to
take care of him. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I don't think Brandon Nyuk is going to be a
Niner at the trade deadline. I think this offense runs
through Shanahan's brain and Christian McCaffrey's feet legs. I think
Ayuk is replaceable. They drafted two receivers, they resigned Jennings,
and I think he's a really good player that a
team like New England could use, or maybe at Carolina.
(28:02):
What is your take on the stories today that it's
it's it's they're not close the Niners in Auk who's
a really a remarkable player.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I think there are two things like that I would
say to give you some optimism that he could still
be there. Number one is that they did get Christian
McCaffrey done aggressively, and I think they had to do
McCaffrey before they did Ayuk because if you pay Ayuke
twenty nine thirty thirty one million dollars a year now,
the price of McCaffrey might go up. So you had
(28:31):
to take care of McCaffrey first. The second thing is,
you know, our mutual friend Mike Silver reported that they
were twenty six million. That's not that far off. And
a lot of times these things get ugliest towards the end,
and the DEVO thing was not clean until it was
at the very end. And I would tell you this,
and I do feel strongly about this part of it.
(28:51):
I think if you fed John Lynch Kyle Shanahan truth
sire im and ask them who would you rather have
in the roster Deebo, Samuel or Brandon Ayuk going forward,
I think they would answer au. They love Debo. Debo
can do a lot of different things for them, but
Debo is like a super charge gadget player. Ayuk is
more of a typical number one receiver who can beat
(29:12):
man coverage and you can build an offense around. And
so do I think they're going to go to Justin
Jefferson numbers to get Ayyuk signed no. And if I
draws land in this line in the sand there and
says I'm not going to take less than that, then
you know, maybe he is traded. But you know, if
there is some level of compromise, I still think the
Niners would like to get something done with Ayuk, and
(29:33):
I don't think the door is closed on that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So there is We had a story earlier. Jmac had
this where the Cowboys are going to prioritize the position
over the talent. Dack over CD and Micah. Now it
is a wide receiver league. College provides about fifteen guys
who can play immediately year one and be productive. So
I can see slowing down a little on CD Lamb.
(29:55):
But edge rushers there are not a lot of great ones,
and Mike is there. I think I would oritize a
Micah or a CD over Dack because I think either
of your picks their first round picks and they've exceeded expectations.
And so I think the message you send to your
locker room is we draft you early and you hit,
We're gonna take care of you. My question to you is,
(30:17):
if you paid Dack sixty, can you also pay CD
and Micah or are you insanely top heavy on the roster.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, and that's a fair question. I think. Like one
thing that's interesting is that Justin Jefferson thing hit them
at both with both barrels right like, So Justin Jefferson
obviously raises the bar for receivers, and CD had seventeen
hundred yards last year, so he's gonna ask for something
not far off from what Jefferson got. And it also
raises the bar for non quarterbacks, which Mike is gonna
(30:46):
ask to be the highest paid non quarterback. And so
you go from Nick Bost at thirty four now at
Jefferson at thirty five. And I think the Michael thing
is in particular or interesting, okay, because you think about
the message that it's going to send it a law
lock room. What they do with Micah Parsons here. They
made Zach Martin waite, They made DeMarcus Lawrence mitwait, they
made Dak Prescott waite the last time. So the guys
(31:09):
in that locker room can look at ownership right now
and said, you made all of these guys wait until
after four years, until after their contracts were up, to
take care of them. What does that mean to me?
And that's why the MiCT thinks so interesting because he's
only been in the league three years. CD they've made
waight right, So how do you handle the Micah Parsons
thing versus how you've handled Lamb now Prescott now, Prescott
(31:33):
before Lawrence, before Zach Martin before even like a Dez Bryant,
if you want to go further back. It's just really
interesting because the Cowboys have been burned so many times
by waiting on these things, and now they've got a
guy who wants to get paid early. How do they
handle that? How does that resonate in the locker room?
That part's interesting. And then the DAK thing, of course,
(31:54):
you have to be concerned with after what Trevor Lawrence got.
You know what damage waiting could do from here on out.
If you're waiting and Jordan Love and Tua get paid,
does that raise mistakes on what you got to pay
DAC It certainly could. And the franchise tag after the year,
I'm sure you know this Colin would cost them over
eighty million dollars, So that's not going to happen either.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I want to circle back to the jets. I was
told and I know the area, but I didn't want
to report it. I was told it was not only overseas, but.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Other side of the R overseas.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, I was I was told the place that it
was not London. No, London's a quick jaunt from New York.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So is is my you might connect through London? I
think right now, Yeah, maybe you would connect?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, so I would say this, Uh, it was it
was true international travel, not just you know JFK the Heathrow.
Was it a vacation or was it an I heard
the word event? What does that mean event?
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah? I just think so you use the phrase important
to him? You know, I think that that is probably
the operative term here, and that I think is why,
probably why Robert Slack couldn't excuse it at least the
way I look at it, right, Like, because then what
would Garrett Wilson or Sauce Gardner or you know, whoever
(33:23):
else pick a name of a young guy in that team,
Quinn Williams, what might be important to them that they
could come come to you with next year? Like what
could that be? So yeah, I think that was sort
of where this was a little tricky and where you know,
they had to sit down with Aaron and talk through
it now, like again like this is this going to
have a long term effect on the team. I think
(33:45):
that sort of depends on how camp starts. And Aaron
is still beloved in that locker room, so I can't
imagine there be a problem in camp, And is it
gonna be a problem when the season starts Like that
to me would be the bigger question, because of course,
if they start zering too, whether it's fair or not,
everybody's gonna be tying all of it back to that, right,
So I think that's where the real questions are to me.
(34:05):
If like and I think you know, you and I
are in the same wavelength here. This is just about
getting the guy's mind right and him being where he
needs to be. Fine, you could have managed it a
little differently, but fine. But you do sort of open
up those questions down the line where you know, if
the team does struggle in any way, people are going
to tie it back to this. In New York. Being
(34:27):
New York, we know how that can turn the temperature up.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh it was good, Albert Breer. We both kind of
think we know where it is. I'm not going to
report it. I don't want to be the first, but
I kind of think I know where it is, and
you feel the same way. You can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah right.
Uh Nantucket's around the corner for you, my friend, get
the spo.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Getting some color now too. I was out of the
lacrosse tournament this weekend. I think I'm I think I'm
starting to build my base layer up.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Good. See anybody
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