June 21, 2024 • 31 mins
3-time Super Bowl Champion Julian Edelman joins the show in studio to talk about Tom Brady getting inducted into the Patriots hall of fame
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Three rings, MVP of a Super Bowl, third leading receiver
in NFL playoff history, most yards, most receptions, number three
now Fox Sports NFL analyst Julian Edelman. You know, Tom
Brady was on earlier in the week, took kind of
a jab at you. We'll get to that later. No
reason to you know, have a border skirmish early in
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the ning. I mean with us, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Shots fired?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I know, it's ridiculous. Let's start with a non patriot story.
I've always had this belief everything in the NFL is something.
Nothing's everything. Rather with a new old line and a
coach on the hot seat, Aaron Rodgers show up to camp,
what was your take on that?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
My take is, you know, I know a lot of
people do things differently, but god forbid, the New York
Jets start one in three in the beginning of the season,
which they start with the Niners Tennessee Patriots.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Who else last one?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Someone else regardless, And we all know that the Patriots
are no good, but that defense is still the same defense,
and that's who Aaron goes against. If they go one
in three, this is going to be such a big
distraction for that locker room because everyone's going to be
talking about this is New York City, you know, it's
this media that's the media capital of the world.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And you can't tell me.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
You know, I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan, But if
I was in that locker room and Aaron Rodgers wasn't
there for three days on the mandatory minute.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Camps, having played four snaps last year.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Having played four snaps off of an injury, when we
have two new receivers, we got a bunch of new
linemen that we added to the team with a CBA
that doesn't allow us to practice a lot. You know,
I guarantee there's four or five guys, six, seven, eight,
nine guys in that locker room sitting there like where's.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Where's he at?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Where's our star corts?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Where's he at? Now?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know, if they start four and no, no one's
gonna care. That's right, but that that's this the NFL.
I think it's a bad look for your leader for
whatever reason, to go and miss an unexcused absence. I
mean I was with Tom Brady in his twentieth fifth year,
twenty third year, and he started missing OTAs here and there,
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but he was still there, never missed a mandatory mini camp.
And you know, I just thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's how I look. And to your point, everything in
New York's magnified, which is why it's a cautionary tale
if you do. I mean, if you go look at
the history of New York, the guys that succeed grow
with the city, Jeter Eli Manning, Aaron Jacks, when you
bring in a star a Rod I mean that that's
a prime example. It's it's harder because the expectations from
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day one or through the roof.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, and well people don't realize you can't win games
in the offseason, but you can lose them because this
is ultimately where you gain your fundamentals, and later on
in the year you rely on fundamentals and high stress situations,
that's what you're gonna naturally fall on. And so when
you're a young receiver and you haven't played with the quarterback,
and then you're gonna go into training camp and things
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are gonna be coming a lot faster you have the
pads on, it's gonna be tougher for that continuity, for
that whole unit, and also with alignment. I mean, you
know when when you're a receiver during practice, those reps
are so crucial because say you get something, you run
a out and you catch the ball. The more important
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thing is after practice, when you watch the film and
you guys communicate on what was good about that, what
was wrong about that, and that they're not gonna have
any of those reps. And I know it's just three
days and he was there for organized team activities, but
you know there's not a lot of practice time right now,
and practice is crucial. Practice execution becomes game reality.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's great. Also, never this is why I thought it
was a poor decision. Veteran offensive linemen do not take
snaps in the preseason anymore. So you're I mean September now,
Julian for veterans is a little bit like week three
of the exhibition season.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Without a doubt, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Kind of playing your way into the season.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And what is Aaron Rodgers. What's one of his strengths
his cadence. You know how hard it is to get
a guy's cadence down on the you know, offensive line
when he's barking, screaming, like, I'm gonna be interested to
see these pre snap penalties early in the year. Because
Aaron relies on that cadence. He's one of the best
ever do it. We used to call, you know, one
of the cadence's green Bay because we get a guy
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jump offside try to get a free play. And Aaron's
great at that, but that takes time to get guys
on the right page to understand his voice and his inflection,
and so, you know, I hope everything's good in his camp.
I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, but it's not a
good look.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
By the way, Brady, Speaking of timing and receivers, Tom
talked about on the interview, prioritizing getting your top wide
receiver the ball early in games.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
We would always try to script so that everybody would
feel like they were in the flow of the game.
The last thing you want is your number one receiver
to go two and a half quarters into a game
and not see a ball to get one targeter because
he's going to get discouraged. He's got to go out there.
He's got to break the huddle. He's got to run
out twenty five yards to his alignment. He's got to
run down the field as fast as he can try
to get open. He's got to run back to the huddle.
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It's a lot of effort that he's putting into not
getting the ball. Now, when you can reward that guy
early in the game, fair, Okay, where's he at? How
do I get him the ball?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And let's talk about that. Was that really a focus?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That was definitely a focus. You know, he kept on
talking about the rhythm of the game. When you get
into the beginning of the game. You know, everyone's got nerves,
everyone's got a little anxiety, and what cleans up those
nerves is a play. You know, you catch a ball,
you get hit, that wakes you up. All right, Now
we're ready to really get into the flow of the game.
And I remember times specifically after injuries or something with
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like a gronk or a me when you got into
that game, it was like, we need to get me
the ball, or we need to get someone who's been
out for a while the ball early so you can
gain that confidence, you know, and also it's rewarding players
in practice. You know, there could be guys that are
doing insane reps, they're doing great things in practice, and
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you try to get them the ball early just to
it's kind of like a reward factor as well. But
getting the ball to your priority receivers was something that
we always tried to do to get guys in the
flow of things, get guys confidence, going to let guys know, hey,
we're going to keep it going here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So you were recently at Patriots camp. What' you see?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I saw a defense that was flying around. I saw
a lot of communication out of defense. I saw Jacoby
Burssett looking confident, calling great play calling and communicating plays
very well. And that's what you really want to see
in in organized team activities. You want to see execution
operation like being able to get a play call in
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with a coach out of the huddle and communicating player
to player, you know, running plays on you know, not
just first down, second down, third down, but being having
calling plays like it's a game. They were doing a
lot of that they were. It was really cool to
see the new kickoff rule and then practicing that in
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the strategy of what people.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Are going to be doing.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's a pooch kick.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Now, oh it's a pooch kick.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You're gonna see a lot of fireworks on this play
because you know the touchback goes out to a thirty,
so they're incentivizing and trying to keep the ball in play.
And then also you're gonna see body types start changing.
Guys that can shed blocks because they're only ten yards
or five yards apart. You know right there, you don't
need the speed. You need guys that can shed blocks
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and make tackle line. A lot of linebackers, good in
space type guys, and just a strategy like are they
gonna squib it?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Are they gonna pooch it? Are they gonna have.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, I heard talks of Kansas City having a
safety back there kicking it off because if they break
that line, this is like a pump return. Now you
break that line, there's only one wave. The old kickoff,
you'd have the wedge, you'd have your second wave, and
then you have your your your safety wave. Where so
you had to get through three. You had a track.
You'd find that track, you'd hit that track, and it
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was like Nascar.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You see smoke.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You just bite your lip and you find the lane
and go and you may get blown up or you
may not. With a lot of waves, now it's like
a pump return where everyone's.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
On top of you. You get vertical.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You could make a one cut and get vertical and
you could be housing and there's no safety. So, you know,
it'll be interesting to see what they do with these kickers.
Maybe find some guy that's a safety finding these rugby guys.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I don't need to have a great you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't need to have a great leg.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You just need to be able to get that squib
or in that kick zone area. So I was impressed.
Drake May had some really good throws.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, he looked a little rough. His footwork in
college was dicey.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
What did you see? He had a pretty dial.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
The day I was there, I saw him make an
endline incut in traffic, which is a tough play in
the red area. So that's throwing an incut on the
back of the end zone with other guys, other defenders
making the proper read on hitting that incut, going to
his third read.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So that was like really cool to see.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But you also can't take too much with OTAs because
everything's kind of scripted. You know, he goes in, we
have our six plays this period. You kind of know
on this down and distance, the defense is going to
get that, give you this coverage, the mic call is
going to be this. So the communication was was very
good for what I saw, but I didn't know how
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they were doing it. Behind the scenes. They could have
been prompting.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
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Speaker 1 (10:07):
Eighteen games is coming. The Union now is aware of it.
They want a few more roster spots. I get it.
That'll get fifth sixty five sixty four more jobs. I'm
for that. I also think seventeen games didn't dilute the product.
It's just we like our football. I would demand if
I was a player, another bye week. That feels realistic
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to me. Let's just stretch it out. Super Bowls are
mostly domes anyway warmer weather, so it doesn't bother me.
If you were a player, that would be two games
added in a pretty short period of time. Would it
make September more experimental? How would you view it as
a player?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, you can get into this all right.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The beginning part of the season is going to be
like the preseason. But if this is the National Football League,
you can't miss a game. You can't have a one game,
three game skit, or.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're out of it.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
So you can to kiss that out the window, kick
that out the window. I get what I really think
the NFL, if they're gonna go to this, which it's
not making the game safer. When you have large human
beings that can run fast that even if you change rules,
are still trying to decaputate, to de capitate each other,
it's not gonna be safe. They better give us another
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two game checks. You know, I don't like this pro rated.
We're all right, we're just gonna take your salary and
we're gonna divide it by eighteen. Now, like, let's let's
give some more pot. Let's give some more money to
the pot for the fellas, let the boys eat, and
you know, then we could talk turkey because it's gonna
get there sooner or later.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But uh, you know, I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I thought it's a grind to get through an NFL season.
After Week eight, you're you're everybody hurt. Everyone is hurt,
everyone's banged up. It's one hundred percent injury rate in
this sport. And you can't go out and say you're
trying to make the game safer, even if you're changing
rules by adding games.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, it's JJ Reddick got hired by the Lakers.
He's inexperienced, but he's a former player and he's smart.
I'll go to your entire career. You know, you had
an older coach and experienced coach. But even as a
position coach, if a guy comes in without a ton
of experience, but he's a bright guy, what does he
need for a guy like you, a veteran to buy in.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He needs to have great information and he has needs
to have a presence in the meeting room.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, like my last couple of years, we had
Mick Lombardi.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He was our receiver coach and I was like three
years older than him, and you know, like I'm sitting
here and what Nick did or Nick did to get
my respect was he.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Would feed me information.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
He'd take care of the certain guys that needed to
be taken care of. But it was all about how
he tapered the meeting, Like what was giving me information
that's gonna make me better for this practice, for this game,
for whatever we're getting into. So how you communicate to
the player and the depth of the communication, the knowledge
that you're giving to him, that is huge to get.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The respect of a guy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So you know, it's interesting you say, like what kind
of information that's fascinating?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Just like.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Being able to sum something up for the defense that
we're about to go up against that you didn't know
that I didn't know giving me like all right, well
you know, I'm going to study this guy, this defensive back.
You know he's gonna come up to me and say,
all right, watch his three offhand jams. He does that
with the staggered stance, like these are the things you
should look like those types of little nitbits. Information's key,
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you know what I mean. And so if he could
give me that and he showed me, you know, and
also with me, I would if it was a younger
guy like with Mick, I would get mad at him
if he showed like old clips of other guys I
was sitting after the meetum like, Hey, this is my
meeting room. I want to see I don't want to
be watching Wes Welker and Rainy Mount Like we got
examples of me doing this.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Why why like that?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You know what I mean, confrontation but no information. How
he handles the room and always being prepared and showing
something that you haven't seen from that from a coaching
staff before.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Like with with Mick.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
He would also you know, have these little funny things
that he would do after the meeting to try to
get guys together. He'd have a history point of of
something that was going on at that time of the
the calendar year to get guys engaged.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So everyone's got to bring a little something. But for me,
it was always the information how he communicated to us.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Finally the Tom Brady Uh, Patriots Hall of Fame, big event, huge,
it was What was it like to be that? What
was your favorite moment?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
You know, favorite moment was really going into Foxborough into
a sold out stadium again. Uh, you know, I've been
removed for two years going on three and being with
guys that you competed with at a high level to
celebrate the flag carrier, you know, that was just a
special moment. There are so many guys that I haven't
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seen in two to ten years, you know. I mean
some of the early Patriot guys that I played with,
the Steve Neils, the Matt Lights, the Logan Mankins, I.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Had seen the huh everybody was there a lot of guys.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I would say there had to been one hundred and
fifty two hundred plus foss. I mean, there was a
lot a lot of guys that I haven't seen in
so long. And you know, to hear Tom, you know,
listening and talk, watching Tom when he speaks, you know,
and I've been around him for so long, but he
still inspires me, you know what I mean, just because
the one thing about Tom Brady is everything he says
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he practices.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
He practices what he preaches.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Like so when you sit there and you say, bro,
you're really gonna tell me not to eat a strawberry,
he really doesn't eat him and he really believes that.
Or if he tells you something, you know you got
to do this. When he when he talked about working
smarter in your interview, how he became such an efficient preparer,
like you always learned something from him through his example,
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and just how of a stand up guy he really is.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I I you know, he's a genuine dude.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And it was so great to just get to hear
all the stories from other guys and really celebrate him.
And it was great to see Coach Belichick there once
again in the same room with him. You know, I
love I love those tension times when when you see
old Bill and mister r KK and Tom, you know,
it's that's just that's just fun. It was a fun night.
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It was great to see everyone too, and it was
sold out. The fans were going nuts. Oh god, I mean,
it was a fun night. Good see man always pleasure.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
He's got a podcast, Games with Names, a new episode
every Tuesday, when's Mind come out.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, we we had to save years for a
special week, you know, you know how it's kind of
there's low weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We throw in coward in the low week. We're getting ratings.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Baby, my middle name is lull that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I am, Lowe, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Great seeing you, j Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Turn on the news. This is the third Line News.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And Julian told me he wants me on the pod
next because you know you're gonna give it a bump,
and they want the McIntyre bounce after that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh, the McIntyre brand, that's the legendary.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Yes, yes, let's start in the WNBA Coluin where Kaitlin
Clark and Angel Rees have another matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
It'll be round three.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Clark is two and oh so far this season against Reese.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
But the hype right now is around the price.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To get in the building. I saw that the.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Average ticket selling for two hundred and fifty three dollars.
That's one hundred and eighty seven percent higher than their
average ticket price and one hundred and sixteen percent more
expensive than a Bulls home game.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Listen?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
The most expensive ticket is on sale for nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I'm assuming that's.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
A floor seat, like right now, that that is not
to the bench or something, but a tougher ticket than
a Chicago Bulls game.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
That is, that's all.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
That's gotta be a rough one the stomach if you're
a Chicago Bulls well, I mean, listen.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
This, we know this. We have seen this explosion the
Taylor Swift tour where all of a sudden it's like
how much and for how she stayed in LA for
seven events. Used to be like a rock band comes
in for two shows like this is the reality of
our cots. Why I say before everybody tells me how
bad the economy is.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Nobody nobody feels saying that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, but I mean, who is I'm watching these stadiums.
I'm on planes, like people are. They love sports in
America and they will pay top dollar for it. This
is great for the WNBA.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Should be a good one.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Hopefully nobody goes after Clark again. You know this Chicago
Sky team last we meet yas. Yeah, so listen, Sunday's
a good day in sports. Let's get to the next story.
Last night, Major League Baseball and Fox put on a
great show at the legend rickwood Field, highlighted by some
Willie Mays tributes, incredible pregame ceremonies, some cool player arrivals
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that appearances by former MLB legends like Barry Bonds and
King Griffy Junior. They did a pretty cool retro version
of the broadcast at the fifth inning.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You see that. That was cool.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
That was really all around smart event from Major League BABS.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This is this I thought this was great, you know,
And the other thing is Fox went to Major League
Baseball several years ago and they said, baseball's great, but
you've got to create moments, like because the All Star
Game was the highest rating and the home run derby
did well, and so they did the Field of Dreams game.
And then this year it was the Phillies and Mets
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in London. I almost watched the entire game. And then
there's Last Night. When you create urgency, when you create
a jewel event, fans watched the games, but America, if
everything is so, we're all distracted on our phone. So
you have to sometimes manufacture urgency, and when you do,
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people come pouring back into baseball. So this is just
I love these five or six little events every year.
I thought the London game was great. It was just
totally new.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, the players like baseball, and we are headed toward
a Yankees Dodgers World Series. Sorry for your braves, you
know they're not They're not gonna final story is Colin
How about this Eric b Enemy, longtime offensive coordinator. He
was in Washington last year and they had a policy
where he for big players from wearing backwards hats under
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any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Listen, Dan Quinn loves a good backwards hat. Here he
is in the picture in the video wearing.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
A backwards hat.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
He has relaxed the backwards hat policy, and now he is.
I don't know if it's in the face of what
the enemy had.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But by the way, it's interesting the enemy from Kansas
City winning organization, that's where Eric came from, Andy Reid. Interesting,
the best cod coach in the league had a backwards
hat quiet policies. I mean, where did the enemy get
this from? Maybe just trying to No, it's interesting successful
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coach Andy Reid perhaps gave him that information.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
So what do you think about Quinn saying, hey, no,
we're going backwards hats. I'm gonna dohm an interview.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know how I feel about backwards hat, backwards life.
Let's turn it around and get going in the right direction.
It's funny though that it's actually a thing in the league. Okay,
whatever I mean?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
This is this is one of your landmark takes. The
backwards has not.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
A landmark take. It's America's most common sense take.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
If you looked at your Mount Rushmore takes, this is
one of your four.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Backwards hat guy, like, that's your best do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But even an NFL coach had a policy, and I
assure you it's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Well, there was no trickle down from the policy, no impact.
They didn't win any games that didn't improve the cold.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well it would help if he had the guy. Oh okay,
J Mack with the news.
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's one of my favorite segments of the week. Our
final segment on Friday. Former news paper Ink Stained Wretch
Jason McIntyre moved to television and digital gambling a much
more promising career, and he still makes headlines though in
his spare time. So let's go a lot of news
out there. International soccer, NBA coaching hires. We call it
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tomorrow's headlines today. What's gonna be the headline for Euro
twenty twenty four?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, so Spain has looked amazing so far, Germany's looked
very good. However, might pick the headline will be pitch please.
England dismisses euro Field. I thought that one might have
got scrapped for language, but I listen, England has not
looked great in the first two matches. They get early goals,
they get a little complacent.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I'm not saying they're perking the bus officially, but they're
just they're happy to get to the finish line up
with a one nothing win. That being said, they'll need
to step up their game in the knockout rounds. There's
a great match today France, I believe, against Netherlands here
kicking off at twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
France.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Another team to watch him, Bape will play He went
a broken nose. He's gonna wear a mask.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But England has the talent. The manager, you know, he's
getting a little questions. I know you don't like complaining
about the coach, but the England manager has come under
fire in recent days. But I do like England to win,
win the Euros. They lost in PK's last time.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Tough one, but I got them here.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Tomorrow's headlines today? What's going to be the headline for
USA and Bolivia on Sunday. I'll be on vacation, but
I'll be glued.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You will.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yes, Obviously Fox has Copa USA Bolivia, Boy Bolivia?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
What do we know about them?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
The headline will be Google keepers US beat the bones
off Bolivia.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Colin.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
I found this stat dug it up.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Bolivia has one win this century at Copa America.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
So the US will win.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
This was this was a very favorable early schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
It's I give them a lay up, a tomato can,
whatever you want. They're gonna win this game. The only
question is how much I have it as too nothing.
You can get that plus three sixty depending where you're gambling.
But I think the US wins this kind of convincingly
defense shows out this. It's all just a work to
up to a meeting with potentially Brazil or Argentina in
the knockout stages. The USA is gonna be live.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
They Colin. They've got a shot to get to the semifinals.
This is a good team.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Yeah, Berhalter knows the pressures on. I'm keep an eye
on g O Ray now not wait to watch this. Yes, yes,
very exciting. I think the US handles Bolivia easily.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
All right. Tomorrow's headlines today, drafts coming up, very international draft, fascinating.
What's gonna be the first pack.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
There's no Webmin Yama at the top of this draft.
There's no Cooper Flag. Next year is a superstar. This
year is a tough one. The headline will be French
kissed Hawks locked lips with Zachary Reza Shay is his name.
He's a nineteen year old teenager. I had friend for
Shila on my podcast this week. He does a lot
of European basketball coverage. He thinks Zach could be could
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be Paul George in five years.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
He's one of these long, six foot nine wings. But
again he's a teenager.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Paul George coming out of Fresnoe State had played in
college for a few years. Like, this kid is young,
it's and he's not gonna turn the Hawks franchise around
in a year or two. And again, a long prototypical
Boston Celtics Jalen Brown type body, Jason Tatum on the wing,
can guard guards, can defend forward. This is a good draft,
not a great draft. I know a lot of people
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are gonna knock it. We'll do some draft coverage next week.
But I like the Hawks rebuilding now where they trade
Trey Young. I think we'll get to that here in
the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Tomorrows headlines today, well, I mean they're in the news.
How about the Lakers Draft night?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah, so they're keeping their pick at seventeen. I guess
New Orleans said we don't want it. You're gonna stink
horse next year. You can have this year's So what
are they doing in the second round? The headline will
be here's Bronny shining example, Buss through la door. You
know you've had a couple interesting takes on how they're
holding him out of workouts, like teams are inviting him.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
He said, I'm good, I'm all right. We know the
Lakers want him.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The question is, does somebody jump up and say, hey,
screw lebron forget Clutch, we're drafting Bronnie. Would somebody do
that that? My guess is gonna be no. And Lebrony
falls to the Lakers at fifty five. JJ Reddick gets him,
gets lebron and now you've got a year Colin where
the Lakers are a great storyline around the league.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
You've got the first father son tandem ever.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You've got a podcaster turned head coach in JJ Redick,
and you've got a Lakers team that I don't know
where they gonna be good?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Are they gonna be bad?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They're a fascinating team to watch this offseason, and I
think next season, I know people like Jason, they're not good.
Why are you guys talking Lakers? They're gonna have Lebron
and his son. That's not fascinating.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
What do you say?
Speaker 7 (27:31):
You're in the interesting business? What's more interesting than a
father's son duo playing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today all around a new coach J. J. Reddick.
I'm interested in the year one with a roster with
no shooters, which is not built for JJ Reddi.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You're expecting a bumpy landing.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
If you will, I'll just say, I think this roster's
reshaped here in the coming weeks in the Lakers season.
It's gonna be a good one. Head well, the podcast
host League Lakers Star Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
They're going back, Coward, They're going back. I'm positive.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And again I'll go back to what I said first hour.
If I would have told you a year ago today
that the MAVs will be meeting the Timberwolves in the
conference finals, you had said, Jack, come on, Anthony Edwards
was not a star. The MAVs had missed the playoffs.
The Lakers are gonna be fine. I know we don't
expect Lebron and ad both to be healthy, but they're
one or two moves away from being like a forty
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five forty eight win team.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Colin, don't laugh, man, They're close, and I know.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We love the West. They're gonna all beat each other up.
There's no dominant team. The Nuggets are not winning sixty
games in the West. The Timberwolves are not winning sixty.
All the Lakers need to do is avoid the play
in get in the playoffs, and I do believe they
will be live with two All NBA players and an
interesting exes and host coach in Reddick to make a
leap back to the Western Conference final.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know what, I like heading off to my vacation
on a positive note. And uh sometimes snarky J Mack
coming in the glass is not only half full, it's
moving toward the top on the lake.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Well, remember the Clippers this year were good? Were they
four seed? If Paul George leaves, they're not. They're not
a top eight team in the West with James harden
and and uh Kawhi Leonard. We don't how many games
they're gonna play, so Clippers could easily take a tumble.
No at room for the Lakers to slide on up.
And okase he's not gonna be that good again this year?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Are they?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah? I think they are. I think their players are
all ascending, plus Alex Caruso plus they'll make another move.
They should make the ad move I suggested earlier.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
What did the Sons do? Are the Son's gonna be good?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Ant?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Right, they'll be better than Rickety Bradley beald Well.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They'll be better than they were. Minnesota will probably move off.
Karl Anthony towns and find a more reliable two score.
So I think the West is only getting better. Golden
State's not gonna just sit there. They're gonna make a move.
So I think there's a lot I think we're gonna
have a lot of times. The NBA off season is
a lot of talk and very little action. I think
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when you watch the Western Conference, the talent, the depth,
you got to make a move otherwise, I mean they're
firing these coaches and gms left and right. You think
you're gonna sit on your hands in the West and survive.
So I think Portland and Houston and San Antonio, really
talented players on those will all be better. I think
Houston next year is a live place to watch. You Pelicans,
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keep your eye on them. So if you're in the West,
maybe the East is different, but if you're in the West,
you have got to be aggressive. Just standing pat you're
going backwards. There's no plateauing. You're making moves or you're
going backwards.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
In the West, and.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
With Lebron they're going to be moving forward, probably aggressively
here in the coming days.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Now.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
They got the coach, they got the draft, they got
free agency. I'm bullish on the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I can tell well, steer the ship, my friend. Good
luck to you. Be safe everybody. I'm gonna take a
couple of weeks off, enjoy the family and the summer.
Live in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Three rings, MVP of a Super Bowl, third leading receiver
in NFL playoff history, most yards, most receptions, number three
now Fox Sports NFL analyst Julian Edelman. You know, Tom
Brady was on earlier in the week, took kind of
a jab at you. We'll get to that later. No
reason to you know, have a border skirmish early in
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the ning. I mean with us, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Shots fired?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I know, it's ridiculous. Let's start with a non patriot story.
I've always had this belief everything in the NFL is something.
Nothing's everything. Rather with a new old line and a
coach on the hot seat, Aaron Rodgers show up to camp,
what was your take on that?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
My take is, you know, I know a lot of
people do things differently, but god forbid, the New York
Jets start one in three in the beginning of the season,
which they start with the Niners Tennessee Patriots.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Who else last one?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Someone else regardless, And we all know that the Patriots
are no good, but that defense is still the same defense,
and that's who Aaron goes against. If they go one
in three, this is going to be such a big
distraction for that locker room because everyone's going to be
talking about this is New York City, you know, it's
this media that's the media capital of the world.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And you can't tell me.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
You know, I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan, But if
I was in that locker room and Aaron Rodgers wasn't
there for three days on the mandatory minute.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Camps, having played four snaps last year.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Having played four snaps off of an injury, when we
have two new receivers, we got a bunch of new
linemen that we added to the team with a CBA
that doesn't allow us to practice a lot. You know,
I guarantee there's four or five guys, six, seven, eight,
nine guys in that locker room sitting there like where's.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Where's he at?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Where's our star corts?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Where's he at? Now?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know, if they start four and no, no one's
gonna care. That's right, but that that's this the NFL.
I think it's a bad look for your leader for
whatever reason, to go and miss an unexcused absence. I
mean I was with Tom Brady in his twentieth fifth year,
twenty third year, and he started missing OTAs here and there,
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but he was still there, never missed a mandatory mini camp.
And you know, I just thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's how I look. And to your point, everything in
New York's magnified, which is why it's a cautionary tale
if you do. I mean, if you go look at
the history of New York, the guys that succeed grow
with the city, Jeter Eli Manning, Aaron Jacks, when you
bring in a star a Rod I mean that that's
a prime example. It's it's harder because the expectations from
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day one or through the roof.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, and well people don't realize you can't win games
in the offseason, but you can lose them because this
is ultimately where you gain your fundamentals, and later on
in the year you rely on fundamentals and high stress situations,
that's what you're gonna naturally fall on. And so when
you're a young receiver and you haven't played with the quarterback,
and then you're gonna go into training camp and things
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are gonna be coming a lot faster you have the
pads on, it's gonna be tougher for that continuity, for
that whole unit, and also with alignment. I mean, you
know when when you're a receiver during practice, those reps
are so crucial because say you get something, you run
a out and you catch the ball. The more important
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thing is after practice, when you watch the film and
you guys communicate on what was good about that, what
was wrong about that, and that they're not gonna have
any of those reps. And I know it's just three
days and he was there for organized team activities, but
you know there's not a lot of practice time right now,
and practice is crucial. Practice execution becomes game reality.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's great. Also, never this is why I thought it
was a poor decision. Veteran offensive linemen do not take
snaps in the preseason anymore. So you're I mean September now,
Julian for veterans is a little bit like week three
of the exhibition season.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Without a doubt, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Kind of playing your way into the season.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And what is Aaron Rodgers. What's one of his strengths
his cadence. You know how hard it is to get
a guy's cadence down on the you know, offensive line
when he's barking, screaming, like, I'm gonna be interested to
see these pre snap penalties early in the year. Because
Aaron relies on that cadence. He's one of the best
ever do it. We used to call, you know, one
of the cadence's green Bay because we get a guy
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jump offside try to get a free play. And Aaron's
great at that, but that takes time to get guys
on the right page to understand his voice and his inflection,
and so, you know, I hope everything's good in his camp.
I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, but it's not a
good look.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
By the way, Brady, Speaking of timing and receivers, Tom
talked about on the interview, prioritizing getting your top wide
receiver the ball early in games.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
We would always try to script so that everybody would
feel like they were in the flow of the game.
The last thing you want is your number one receiver
to go two and a half quarters into a game
and not see a ball to get one targeter because
he's going to get discouraged. He's got to go out there.
He's got to break the huddle. He's got to run
out twenty five yards to his alignment. He's got to
run down the field as fast as he can try
to get open. He's got to run back to the huddle.
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It's a lot of effort that he's putting into not
getting the ball. Now, when you can reward that guy
early in the game, fair, Okay, where's he at? How
do I get him the ball?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And let's talk about that. Was that really a focus?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
That was definitely a focus. You know, he kept on
talking about the rhythm of the game. When you get
into the beginning of the game. You know, everyone's got nerves,
everyone's got a little anxiety, and what cleans up those
nerves is a play. You know, you catch a ball,
you get hit, that wakes you up. All right, Now
we're ready to really get into the flow of the game.
And I remember times specifically after injuries or something with
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like a gronk or a me when you got into
that game, it was like, we need to get me
the ball, or we need to get someone who's been
out for a while the ball early so you can
gain that confidence, you know, and also it's rewarding players
in practice. You know, there could be guys that are
doing insane reps, they're doing great things in practice, and
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you try to get them the ball early just to
it's kind of like a reward factor as well. But
getting the ball to your priority receivers was something that
we always tried to do to get guys in the
flow of things, get guys confidence, going to let guys know, hey,
we're going to keep it going here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So you were recently at Patriots camp. What' you see?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I saw a defense that was flying around. I saw
a lot of communication out of defense. I saw Jacoby
Burssett looking confident, calling great play calling and communicating plays
very well. And that's what you really want to see
in in organized team activities. You want to see execution
operation like being able to get a play call in
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with a coach out of the huddle and communicating player
to player, you know, running plays on you know, not
just first down, second down, third down, but being having
calling plays like it's a game. They were doing a
lot of that they were. It was really cool to
see the new kickoff rule and then practicing that in
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the strategy of what people.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Are going to be doing.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's a pooch kick.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Now, oh it's a pooch kick.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You're gonna see a lot of fireworks on this play
because you know the touchback goes out to a thirty,
so they're incentivizing and trying to keep the ball in play.
And then also you're gonna see body types start changing.
Guys that can shed blocks because they're only ten yards
or five yards apart. You know right there, you don't
need the speed. You need guys that can shed blocks
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and make tackle line. A lot of linebackers, good in
space type guys, and just a strategy like are they
gonna squib it?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Are they gonna pooch it? Are they gonna have.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, I heard talks of Kansas City having a
safety back there kicking it off because if they break
that line, this is like a pump return. Now you
break that line, there's only one wave. The old kickoff,
you'd have the wedge, you'd have your second wave, and
then you have your your your safety wave. Where so
you had to get through three. You had a track.
You'd find that track, you'd hit that track, and it
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was like Nascar.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You see smoke.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You just bite your lip and you find the lane
and go and you may get blown up or you
may not. With a lot of waves, now it's like
a pump return where everyone's.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
On top of you. You get vertical.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You could make a one cut and get vertical and
you could be housing and there's no safety. So, you know,
it'll be interesting to see what they do with these kickers.
Maybe find some guy that's a safety finding these rugby guys.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I don't need to have a great you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Don't need to have a great leg.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You just need to be able to get that squib
or in that kick zone area. So I was impressed.
Drake May had some really good throws.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, he looked a little rough. His footwork in
college was dicey.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
What did you see? He had a pretty dial.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
The day I was there, I saw him make an
endline incut in traffic, which is a tough play in
the red area. So that's throwing an incut on the
back of the end zone with other guys, other defenders
making the proper read on hitting that incut, going to
his third read.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So that was like really cool to see.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But you also can't take too much with OTAs because
everything's kind of scripted. You know, he goes in, we
have our six plays this period. You kind of know
on this down and distance, the defense is going to
get that, give you this coverage, the mic call is
going to be this. So the communication was was very
good for what I saw, but I didn't know how
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they were doing it. Behind the scenes. They could have
been prompting.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
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Speaker 1 (10:07):
Eighteen games is coming. The Union now is aware of it.
They want a few more roster spots. I get it.
That'll get fifth sixty five sixty four more jobs. I'm
for that. I also think seventeen games didn't dilute the product.
It's just we like our football. I would demand if
I was a player, another bye week. That feels realistic
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to me. Let's just stretch it out. Super Bowls are
mostly domes anyway warmer weather, so it doesn't bother me.
If you were a player, that would be two games
added in a pretty short period of time. Would it
make September more experimental? How would you view it as
a player?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, you can get into this all right.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The beginning part of the season is going to be
like the preseason. But if this is the National Football League,
you can't miss a game. You can't have a one game,
three game skit, or.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're out of it.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
So you can to kiss that out the window, kick
that out the window. I get what I really think
the NFL, if they're gonna go to this, which it's
not making the game safer. When you have large human
beings that can run fast that even if you change rules,
are still trying to decaputate, to de capitate each other,
it's not gonna be safe. They better give us another
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two game checks. You know, I don't like this pro rated.
We're all right, we're just gonna take your salary and
we're gonna divide it by eighteen. Now, like, let's let's
give some more pot. Let's give some more money to
the pot for the fellas, let the boys eat, and
you know, then we could talk turkey because it's gonna
get there sooner or later.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But uh, you know, I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I thought it's a grind to get through an NFL season.
After Week eight, you're you're everybody hurt. Everyone is hurt,
everyone's banged up. It's one hundred percent injury rate in
this sport. And you can't go out and say you're
trying to make the game safer, even if you're changing
rules by adding games.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, it's JJ Reddick got hired by the Lakers.
He's inexperienced, but he's a former player and he's smart.
I'll go to your entire career. You know, you had
an older coach and experienced coach. But even as a
position coach, if a guy comes in without a ton
of experience, but he's a bright guy, what does he
need for a guy like you, a veteran to buy in.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He needs to have great information and he has needs
to have a presence in the meeting room.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, like my last couple of years, we had
Mick Lombardi.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He was our receiver coach and I was like three
years older than him, and you know, like I'm sitting
here and what Nick did or Nick did to get
my respect was he.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Would feed me information.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
He'd take care of the certain guys that needed to
be taken care of. But it was all about how
he tapered the meeting, Like what was giving me information
that's gonna make me better for this practice, for this game,
for whatever we're getting into. So how you communicate to
the player and the depth of the communication, the knowledge
that you're giving to him, that is huge to get.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The respect of a guy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So you know, it's interesting you say, like what kind
of information that's fascinating?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Just like.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Being able to sum something up for the defense that
we're about to go up against that you didn't know
that I didn't know giving me like all right, well
you know, I'm going to study this guy, this defensive back.
You know he's gonna come up to me and say,
all right, watch his three offhand jams. He does that
with the staggered stance, like these are the things you
should look like those types of little nitbits. Information's key,
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you know what I mean. And so if he could
give me that and he showed me, you know, and
also with me, I would if it was a younger
guy like with Mick, I would get mad at him
if he showed like old clips of other guys I
was sitting after the meetum like, Hey, this is my
meeting room. I want to see I don't want to
be watching Wes Welker and Rainy Mount Like we got
examples of me doing this.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Why why like that?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You know what I mean, confrontation but no information. How
he handles the room and always being prepared and showing
something that you haven't seen from that from a coaching
staff before.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Like with with Mick.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
He would also you know, have these little funny things
that he would do after the meeting to try to
get guys together. He'd have a history point of of
something that was going on at that time of the
the calendar year to get guys engaged.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So everyone's got to bring a little something. But for me,
it was always the information how he communicated to us.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Finally the Tom Brady Uh, Patriots Hall of Fame, big event, huge,
it was What was it like to be that? What
was your favorite moment?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
You know, favorite moment was really going into Foxborough into
a sold out stadium again. Uh, you know, I've been
removed for two years going on three and being with
guys that you competed with at a high level to
celebrate the flag carrier, you know, that was just a
special moment. There are so many guys that I haven't
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seen in two to ten years, you know. I mean
some of the early Patriot guys that I played with,
the Steve Neils, the Matt Lights, the Logan Mankins, I.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Had seen the huh everybody was there a lot of guys.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I would say there had to been one hundred and
fifty two hundred plus foss. I mean, there was a
lot a lot of guys that I haven't seen in
so long. And you know, to hear Tom, you know,
listening and talk, watching Tom when he speaks, you know,
and I've been around him for so long, but he
still inspires me, you know what I mean, just because
the one thing about Tom Brady is everything he says
(15:47):
he practices.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
He practices what he preaches.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Like so when you sit there and you say, bro,
you're really gonna tell me not to eat a strawberry,
he really doesn't eat him and he really believes that.
Or if he tells you something, you know you got
to do this. When he when he talked about working
smarter in your interview, how he became such an efficient preparer,
like you always learned something from him through his example,
(16:11):
and just how of a stand up guy he really is.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I I you know, he's a genuine dude.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And it was so great to just get to hear
all the stories from other guys and really celebrate him.
And it was great to see Coach Belichick there once
again in the same room with him. You know, I
love I love those tension times when when you see
old Bill and mister r KK and Tom, you know,
it's that's just that's just fun. It was a fun night.
(16:37):
It was great to see everyone too, and it was
sold out. The fans were going nuts. Oh god, I mean,
it was a fun night. Good see man always pleasure.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
He's got a podcast, Games with Names, a new episode
every Tuesday, when's Mind come out.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, we we had to save years for a
special week, you know, you know how it's kind of
there's low weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We throw in coward in the low week. We're getting ratings.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Baby, my middle name is lull that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I am, Lowe, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Great seeing you, j Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Turn on the news. This is the third Line News.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And Julian told me he wants me on the pod
next because you know you're gonna give it a bump,
and they want the McIntyre bounce after that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh, the McIntyre brand, that's the legendary.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Yes, yes, let's start in the WNBA Coluin where Kaitlin
Clark and Angel Rees have another matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
It'll be round three.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Clark is two and oh so far this season against Reese.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
But the hype right now is around the price.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To get in the building. I saw that the.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Average ticket selling for two hundred and fifty three dollars.
That's one hundred and eighty seven percent higher than their
average ticket price and one hundred and sixteen percent more
expensive than a Bulls home game.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Listen?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
The most expensive ticket is on sale for nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I'm assuming that's.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
A floor seat, like right now, that that is not
to the bench or something, but a tougher ticket than
a Chicago Bulls game.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
That is, that's all.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
That's gotta be a rough one the stomach if you're
a Chicago Bulls well, I mean, listen.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
This, we know this. We have seen this explosion the
Taylor Swift tour where all of a sudden it's like
how much and for how she stayed in LA for
seven events. Used to be like a rock band comes
in for two shows like this is the reality of
our cots. Why I say before everybody tells me how
bad the economy is.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Nobody nobody feels saying that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, but I mean, who is I'm watching these stadiums.
I'm on planes, like people are. They love sports in
America and they will pay top dollar for it. This
is great for the WNBA.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Should be a good one.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Hopefully nobody goes after Clark again. You know this Chicago
Sky team last we meet yas. Yeah, so listen, Sunday's
a good day in sports. Let's get to the next story.
Last night, Major League Baseball and Fox put on a
great show at the legend rickwood Field, highlighted by some
Willie Mays tributes, incredible pregame ceremonies, some cool player arrivals
(19:07):
that appearances by former MLB legends like Barry Bonds and
King Griffy Junior. They did a pretty cool retro version
of the broadcast at the fifth inning.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You see that. That was cool.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
That was really all around smart event from Major League BABS.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This is this I thought this was great, you know,
And the other thing is Fox went to Major League
Baseball several years ago and they said, baseball's great, but
you've got to create moments, like because the All Star
Game was the highest rating and the home run derby
did well, and so they did the Field of Dreams game.
And then this year it was the Phillies and Mets
(19:42):
in London. I almost watched the entire game. And then
there's Last Night. When you create urgency, when you create
a jewel event, fans watched the games, but America, if
everything is so, we're all distracted on our phone. So
you have to sometimes manufacture urgency, and when you do,
(20:03):
people come pouring back into baseball. So this is just
I love these five or six little events every year.
I thought the London game was great. It was just
totally new.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, the players like baseball, and we are headed toward
a Yankees Dodgers World Series. Sorry for your braves, you
know they're not They're not gonna final story is Colin
How about this Eric b Enemy, longtime offensive coordinator. He
was in Washington last year and they had a policy
where he for big players from wearing backwards hats under
(20:34):
any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Listen, Dan Quinn loves a good backwards hat. Here he
is in the picture in the video wearing.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
A backwards hat.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
He has relaxed the backwards hat policy, and now he is.
I don't know if it's in the face of what
the enemy had.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But by the way, it's interesting the enemy from Kansas
City winning organization, that's where Eric came from, Andy Reid. Interesting,
the best cod coach in the league had a backwards
hat quiet policies. I mean, where did the enemy get
this from? Maybe just trying to No, it's interesting successful
(21:10):
coach Andy Reid perhaps gave him that information.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
So what do you think about Quinn saying, hey, no,
we're going backwards hats. I'm gonna dohm an interview.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know how I feel about backwards hat, backwards life.
Let's turn it around and get going in the right direction.
It's funny though that it's actually a thing in the league. Okay,
whatever I mean?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
This is this is one of your landmark takes. The
backwards has not.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
A landmark take. It's America's most common sense take.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
If you looked at your Mount Rushmore takes, this is
one of your four.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Backwards hat guy, like, that's your best do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But even an NFL coach had a policy, and I
assure you it's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Well, there was no trickle down from the policy, no impact.
They didn't win any games that didn't improve the cold.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well it would help if he had the guy. Oh okay,
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's one of my favorite segments of the week. Our
final segment on Friday. Former news paper Ink Stained Wretch
Jason McIntyre moved to television and digital gambling a much
more promising career, and he still makes headlines though in
his spare time. So let's go a lot of news
out there. International soccer, NBA coaching hires. We call it
(23:11):
tomorrow's headlines today. What's gonna be the headline for Euro
twenty twenty four?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, so Spain has looked amazing so far, Germany's looked
very good. However, might pick the headline will be pitch please.
England dismisses euro Field. I thought that one might have
got scrapped for language, but I listen, England has not
looked great in the first two matches. They get early goals,
they get a little complacent.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I'm not saying they're perking the bus officially, but they're
just they're happy to get to the finish line up
with a one nothing win. That being said, they'll need
to step up their game in the knockout rounds. There's
a great match today France, I believe, against Netherlands here
kicking off at twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
France.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Another team to watch him, Bape will play He went
a broken nose. He's gonna wear a mask.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But England has the talent. The manager, you know, he's
getting a little questions. I know you don't like complaining
about the coach, but the England manager has come under
fire in recent days. But I do like England to win,
win the Euros. They lost in PK's last time.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Tough one, but I got them here.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Tomorrow's headlines today? What's going to be the headline for
USA and Bolivia on Sunday. I'll be on vacation, but
I'll be glued.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You will.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yes, Obviously Fox has Copa USA Bolivia, Boy Bolivia?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
What do we know about them?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
The headline will be Google keepers US beat the bones
off Bolivia.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Colin.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
I found this stat dug it up.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Bolivia has one win this century at Copa America.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
So the US will win.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
This was this was a very favorable early schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
It's I give them a lay up, a tomato can,
whatever you want. They're gonna win this game. The only
question is how much I have it as too nothing.
You can get that plus three sixty depending where you're gambling.
But I think the US wins this kind of convincingly
defense shows out this. It's all just a work to
up to a meeting with potentially Brazil or Argentina in
the knockout stages. The USA is gonna be live.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
They Colin. They've got a shot to get to the semifinals.
This is a good team.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Yeah, Berhalter knows the pressures on. I'm keep an eye
on g O Ray now not wait to watch this. Yes, yes,
very exciting. I think the US handles Bolivia easily.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
All right. Tomorrow's headlines today, drafts coming up, very international draft, fascinating.
What's gonna be the first pack.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
There's no Webmin Yama at the top of this draft.
There's no Cooper Flag. Next year is a superstar. This
year is a tough one. The headline will be French
kissed Hawks locked lips with Zachary Reza Shay is his name.
He's a nineteen year old teenager. I had friend for
Shila on my podcast this week. He does a lot
of European basketball coverage. He thinks Zach could be could
(25:44):
be Paul George in five years.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
He's one of these long, six foot nine wings. But
again he's a teenager.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Paul George coming out of Fresnoe State had played in
college for a few years. Like, this kid is young,
it's and he's not gonna turn the Hawks franchise around
in a year or two. And again, a long prototypical
Boston Celtics Jalen Brown type body, Jason Tatum on the wing,
can guard guards, can defend forward. This is a good draft,
not a great draft. I know a lot of people
(26:12):
are gonna knock it. We'll do some draft coverage next week.
But I like the Hawks rebuilding now where they trade
Trey Young. I think we'll get to that here in
the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Tomorrows headlines today, well, I mean they're in the news.
How about the Lakers Draft night?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah, so they're keeping their pick at seventeen. I guess
New Orleans said we don't want it. You're gonna stink
horse next year. You can have this year's So what
are they doing in the second round? The headline will
be here's Bronny shining example, Buss through la door. You
know you've had a couple interesting takes on how they're
holding him out of workouts, like teams are inviting him.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
He said, I'm good, I'm all right. We know the
Lakers want him.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The question is, does somebody jump up and say, hey,
screw lebron forget Clutch, we're drafting Bronnie. Would somebody do
that that? My guess is gonna be no. And Lebrony
falls to the Lakers at fifty five. JJ Reddick gets him,
gets lebron and now you've got a year Colin where
the Lakers are a great storyline around the league.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
You've got the first father son tandem ever.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You've got a podcaster turned head coach in JJ Redick,
and you've got a Lakers team that I don't know
where they gonna be good?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Are they gonna be bad?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They're a fascinating team to watch this offseason, and I
think next season, I know people like Jason, they're not good.
Why are you guys talking Lakers? They're gonna have Lebron
and his son. That's not fascinating.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
What do you say?
Speaker 7 (27:31):
You're in the interesting business? What's more interesting than a
father's son duo playing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today all around a new coach J. J. Reddick.
I'm interested in the year one with a roster with
no shooters, which is not built for JJ Reddi.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You're expecting a bumpy landing.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
If you will, I'll just say, I think this roster's
reshaped here in the coming weeks in the Lakers season.
It's gonna be a good one. Head well, the podcast
host League Lakers Star Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
They're going back, Coward, They're going back. I'm positive.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And again I'll go back to what I said first hour.
If I would have told you a year ago today
that the MAVs will be meeting the Timberwolves in the
conference finals, you had said, Jack, come on, Anthony Edwards
was not a star. The MAVs had missed the playoffs.
The Lakers are gonna be fine. I know we don't
expect Lebron and ad both to be healthy, but they're
one or two moves away from being like a forty
(28:28):
five forty eight win team.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Colin, don't laugh, man, They're close, and I know.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We love the West. They're gonna all beat each other up.
There's no dominant team. The Nuggets are not winning sixty
games in the West. The Timberwolves are not winning sixty.
All the Lakers need to do is avoid the play
in get in the playoffs, and I do believe they
will be live with two All NBA players and an
interesting exes and host coach in Reddick to make a
leap back to the Western Conference final.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know what, I like heading off to my vacation
on a positive note. And uh sometimes snarky J Mack
coming in the glass is not only half full, it's
moving toward the top on the lake.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Well, remember the Clippers this year were good? Were they
four seed? If Paul George leaves, they're not. They're not
a top eight team in the West with James harden
and and uh Kawhi Leonard. We don't how many games
they're gonna play, so Clippers could easily take a tumble.
No at room for the Lakers to slide on up.
And okase he's not gonna be that good again this year?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Are they?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah? I think they are. I think their players are
all ascending, plus Alex Caruso plus they'll make another move.
They should make the ad move I suggested earlier.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
What did the Sons do? Are the Son's gonna be good?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Ant?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Right, they'll be better than Rickety Bradley beald Well.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They'll be better than they were. Minnesota will probably move off.
Karl Anthony towns and find a more reliable two score.
So I think the West is only getting better. Golden
State's not gonna just sit there. They're gonna make a move.
So I think there's a lot I think we're gonna
have a lot of times. The NBA off season is
a lot of talk and very little action. I think
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when you watch the Western Conference, the talent, the depth,
you got to make a move otherwise, I mean they're
firing these coaches and gms left and right. You think
you're gonna sit on your hands in the West and survive.
So I think Portland and Houston and San Antonio, really
talented players on those will all be better. I think
Houston next year is a live place to watch. You Pelicans,
(30:27):
keep your eye on them. So if you're in the West,
maybe the East is different, but if you're in the West,
you have got to be aggressive. Just standing pat you're
going backwards. There's no plateauing. You're making moves or you're
going backwards.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
In the West, and.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
With Lebron they're going to be moving forward, probably aggressively
here in the coming days.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Now.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
They got the coach, they got the draft, they got
free agency. I'm bullish on the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I can tell well, steer the ship, my friend. Good
luck to you. Be safe everybody. I'm gonna take a
couple of weeks off, enjoy the family and the summer.
Live in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
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