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June 21, 2024 • 41 mins

Colin reacts to the Lakers hiring JJ Redick to be their new head coach despite having no coaching experience in neither college nor the NBA

The Lakers need to help Coach Redick any way they can because right now they don't have the right players

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh, do we have a show in store for you today,
live in Los Angeles on a Friday. It's the Hurt
wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. Really like where
we're going today. There's a lot of stuff going on.
J Mac JJ Reddick. Five minutes after our show ended,

(00:49):
got tabbed as the as a Lakers head coach, and
it was We had kind of predicted it Wednesday. We
thought it Land Wednesday, as we'd heard. There's a lot
of different angles on this If that's the tree, there's
a lot of branches on this store.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oo okay, I'll take it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Let's start with this, JJ Reddick. Here are two very
common traits too in highly successful people. High IQ, highly competitive,
not a lot of failures, smart people who are very
driven in competitive succeed coach k at Duke has had

(01:33):
a lot of smart people and a lot of competitive
people come through that program for all those years, and
at seventy seven years old today, he acknowledges JJ was
as smart as any player he's ever had and as
competitive as any player he's had. Now, the only thing
that gets in the way of really smart competitive people,

(01:53):
men or women. The only trait that can get in
the way of that is stubborn. And you see that
just puncture really smart competitive people. I don't know JJ
well enough to know is he stubborn? But in the
NBA you have to be adaptable. It's a long, long season.
There's injuries, there's egos. You got to be able to pivot,

(02:14):
keep players happy. But I'll be honest about this, He'll
be a quick learner. I don't really worry about JJ Reddick.
I worry about the Lakers impatience and competency. Just think
about this. The two best teams in the league, in
my opinion, they're favored next year, the Celtics and Denver.
Denver landed the joker, the best player in the world,

(02:39):
surrounded him with good players, and it still took an
excellent coach Mike Malone, what was it seven years to
win a title with the best player in his prime.
Didn't have to trade for him and give up draft capitol.
They got him in the second round. To go seven
years with a Joker, best player in the world in
his prime. The Celtics planted two excellent players, maybe not

(03:02):
as good as Joker, but Jalen Brown Jason Tatum excellent
players did excellent coach Brad Stevens, who's down an excellent GM.
Brad Stevens took them seven eight years.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
They had to add pieces.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
So whether you land the best player in the world
or two other elite players, We've had six champions in
six years. The talent is all spread out. Gone or
the Shaq Kobe years, the Magic Kareem Worthy years. It's
not like that anymore. Hard to get a third star now.
The good news for the Lakers they have three nice pieces.

(03:39):
Anthony Davis is a top twelve player. Defensively, he's a gem.
Lebron's still very very, very good and a playmaker. He
makes people around him better. And Austin Reeves is a
solid playmaker. If I had to move in my wood,
but he's a solid playmaker. They could also trade D'Angelo
Russell if he opts in or if he opts out.
They got eighteen million bucks to play with. There are

(04:00):
far worse situations in the NBA to inherit that what
JJ Reddick is. But there's a lot of things to
consider here. They don't have any shooters. JJ's a shooter.
He wants a roster of shooters. That's his game. The
other thing, like the Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys, Lakers
are a big brand in a big city and the
expectations are always a little unrealistic. And here's the other thing.

(04:24):
Anthony Davis played seventy six games. Lebron played seventy one.
They're not going to play that many games next year.
That's the healthiest Ad and Lebron have been in years.
And that got him a playing game and getting almost
swept by Denver. They played Denver well. But that's what
Ad playing every night got you. That's what Lebron playing

(04:47):
virtually every night got you. I'd bet before a one
k that AD's not playing seventy six games as a
Laker next year. Okay, so that's stuff to think about.
So the Lakers, to me need a lot of patience here.
This is not a championship roster. I'm going to propose
a massive deal after the break. Something to consider, but

(05:12):
I don't worry about JJ Reddick. Mike Krzyzewski's like, that's
the smartest player's ever had, and he had like Quinn
Snyder and our guys and a lot of smart guys.
Trajan Langdon was a smart guy, made Shane Battier. It's
like Duke, It's like the smartest guys in the world, right,
like some of the smartest basketball players ever, you know,
dookies and Coach k Is like, yeah, that's the smartest

(05:34):
player I've ever had as a competitive player I've ever had.
So ah, he'll be fine. I wish they would have
made the move earlier so we could build a better staff,
But you cross your fingers on that. There's this other
issue to consider, Dan Woiki La times. Remember, stuff gets
out when somebody wants it out. According to his story,

(05:56):
Reddick's assent as a favorite in the coaching search came
without Lebron James urging they wanted to make sure that
got out. In fact, they were more concerned about how
a d felt about the move. According to this story.
Who doesn't co host a podcast with JJ Reddick. So

(06:16):
you got to balance that, baby, That's something that is something.
But again in review, the JJ Reddick piece smart competitive,
As long as he's not stubborn, he'll be fine. Lakers
competency patience I haven't seen in a decade. That's my concern.

(06:37):
So I'm gonna throw this out there. I am not
proposing this. This is not my big trade proposal, but
it's something that needs to be addressed. Tray Young and
I've said before I would have no problems Tray Young
with Lebron. James spaced the floor with Lebron and AD
I'm for it. Tray Young sent out a tweet an
hour Glass, a cryptic post after the JJ Reddick news.

(07:04):
So how do the Lakers get a Tray Young? Well,
they could move d Low, they could move some bench guys,
James Vanderbilt. They could give up three first round picks,
probably have to give up Austin Reeves. I'd be here
for it, I know, I know I'd be here for it.
For Trey Young. I do think Trey Young would work here.
It feels like something AD would like because Trey Young

(07:25):
would space the floor it'd be harder to collapse. It's
very easy now to collapse on Anthony Davis because the
Lakers don't have anybody that can shoot a three, and
Trey Young's an elite three ball, a true point guard
at least in twenty twenty four. He's a point guard,
and he's a playmaker, So Lebron wouldn't have to be
the overwhelming playmaker every time down the floor. Trey Young

(07:48):
could do some of that. Lebron could play off the
ball occasionally, conserve some energy. You couldn't just collapse on
Anthony Davis, so he would face the floor. So it's
the sort of thing the Lakers do, big splashy trades,
free agent signings, not working through the draft. They're not
the Royals of the Pittsburgh Pirates. That's not what they do.
They're not even OKC, a well run team that loves

(08:11):
the draft and develop. But I don't know if OKC
has the guts to pull off a big trade. Sam
Presty likes to draft and develop and accumulate picks, and
that's fine, so does Boston. But Boston had the guts
to go out and get Poor Zingis and Drew Holliday,
and their champs. But I do think this works. He's
a floor spacer. He is what they are not in
his prime, really quick playmaker and can shoot threes. I

(08:36):
mean this team is the Celtics, number one in the
NBA shooting threes, Lakers twenty eighth. I mean he is
exactly what the doctor ordered. Quick, twitchy, prime threes playmaker.
And it should be noted what was JJ Riddick. He
was a guard that shot threes. How do we know

(08:57):
if JJ Reddick can coach biggs? He would never was
a big He's never coached bigs. But I know JJ Reddick.
If you listen to JJ Reddick, this is a guy
JJ Reddick could work with. JJ Reddick was a playmaker.
He was a moving around the floor guy. He was
a shooting threes guy. My guess is quarterbacks, no quarterbacks,

(09:18):
playmakers and shooters. No playmakers and shooters. He'd be good
with Tray Young. So I wouldn't propose this, but I'd
be okay with it. I think there's a better deal
out there. But I do think another thing to consider
if you made the Tray Young deal. And I was
at an event in the last six seven months where
Trey Young was there and Lebron made a point of

(09:40):
showing up just saying I was at the event. Lebron
didn't have to come. Trey Young was there, and Lebron
made sure he got to the event just to shake hands,
say hi. It would also Trey Young would also create
some momentum and inertia because when a new coach takes

(10:02):
over JJ Reddick with no experience, if you gave him
the same roster, people'd be picking him apart, picking him apart.
Tray Young would take a lot of the attention away
from us micro managing, micro inspecting JJ Ruddick. We'd have
all the eyes on Trey Young, Lebron and AD. We

(10:22):
wouldn't worry as much about coaching because the Lakers didn't
have any three ball shooters in a three ball league.
All we did is talk about Darvin Ham's rotations. You
get Trey Young and we're gonna be talking about Trey Young,
not the coach. So I think the Tray Young him
putting out an hour glass is saying, ah, it's a
matter of time. I would be on board with that. Now.
J Mack is not a Trey Young fan, and he's

(10:45):
a pretty shaky defensive player, but it should be noted
so is Luca, and you all love Luca as a
lot of guys in this league who are offensive players
who are not great defensive players. Trey Young has gotten
better as a defense, but he is a playmaker.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
He is a shooter.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
He's in his prime. And I'll tell you he was
in the biggest city in the South. He is a
big city player. When he broke into this league, where
did he play best? New York City. Trey Young is
not gonna wither under the lights. He's a big city player.
Atlanta's the big city in the South. Love playing in
New York. He'd fit in Los Angeles. He would not shrink. So,

(11:23):
if that's the move, and Trey Young's giving you a
cryptic tweet, if that's the move, I think there's advantages
to it. We pay a lot more attention to him
than the rookie head coach, and good god, the Lakers
need guys that can shoot. They need guys that I
mean ruyacha more. I always oh three moll. If that's
your guy, you're not a championship team. Ad Lebron and

(11:45):
Trey Young. That's getting past the first round. So j Mack.
I'm I am going to propose the trade I would make,
and I'm not gonna. I just think you have to
strongly consider.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It a summer Friday. Let's let's get off to a
nice start here, Colin. You want to give up like
the entire roster except for Lebron and AD for Trey
Young because we just talked about this. You can do
what the Celtics did and get like really nice three
four five guys, or you can go for a third star,
which is what the Suns did and that flopped badly.
I think the NBA's turning. I would rather go try

(12:22):
to find me a Derek White and Alex Caruso type guy.
Find three of those to go with. Lebron and Ad as.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Opposed to Derek White aren't out there.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
And they're fine a slightly less eighty percent of Derek White.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You're not a championship team with old Lebron eighty playing
sixty four games, Austin Reid, Austin Reeves and a poor
man's Derek White.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
That is not a champion.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, that's not a champ If you want to be
a championship team, on any night, AD protects the basket. Lebron,
the playmaker, Trey Young dropping thirty four from her perimeter.
And guys, that is a team that could compete on
any night with any team. I mean, listen, this is
Los Angeles. If you want to do like tweaking, that's

(13:07):
that's not LA.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I know, I don't know if this solves like
who's guarding Jamal Murray in crunch time? It doesn't adding
Tree Young, it doesn't. You go up against the Celtics
in the finals, who's guarding Tatum and Brown? Okay?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Now, coming up next, I think something has to be
considered by low Sell High. I want you to think
about that going into the break by low Sell High,
next and heard.

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Speaker 3 (13:42):
Welcome back JJ Reddick, Lakers coach. What does it mean?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Reddick is a guard who was a great shooter. He
loves the Celtics. If you listen to the podcast five
and out, that is the exact opposite of what the
Lakers are. So for him to succeed, the Lakers have
to make moves. This this eighty doesn't shoot threes anymore.
They don't have any three point shooters. This roster is
not built for JJ Reddick. And there's a story that

(14:07):
Genie Buss wanted to get Dan Hurley. You didn't. You
got JJ Reddick. So give him a chance. Build him
a team that can work. When Frank Vogel was the
Lakers coach, they had all that size at a D Lebron.
You had KCP in the wing that was length. Vogel
was built for a big team. Like coaches Mike dan
TONI doesn't like bigs. JJ Reddick's going to be great

(14:29):
with guards and playmakers. So give him a chance the Lakers.
If Lebron's out, Austin Reeves can't be your guy. That's
that's he can be your second playmaker. He can't be
the lead dog and win consistently as the West gets bigger.
So Kendrick Perkins broadcast other plays, said, I want to
see how it goes with JJ Reddick if he's not

(14:50):
thriving with Anthony Davis, I wouldn't be surprised if Anthony
Davis wants out of Los Angeles. So what if Anthony
Davis doesn't want out Los Angeles. Would the Lakers consider
moving Ad. There's a basic understanding on Wall Street by
low Sell High. Anthony Davis just had the healthiest year

(15:12):
of his career. He's in his prime. The league is
getting bigger. You could rebuild the roster moving him and
fetch a ton hell. Rudy Gobert got five first round
picks in rotational players, and Ad is significantly better than
Rudy Gobert. There is no proof JJ Reddick wants a

(15:33):
big man who has moved away from three point shooting
eighty doesn't shoot him anymore, and when he does, he's
awful twenty seven percent. If you listen to JJ Reddick's podcast,
it's a tell he's telling you what he likes. Celtics
ball movement. Everybody can shoot. This roster has no shooters.
It's got no shooters. And Ad tried the three ball thing,

(15:56):
didn't like it and was lousy at it, moved back
toward the back and had an unbelievable year. He's not
going to play seventy six games again. And even when
he did, it got him a playing game. This roster
was built for Darvin Ham and they fired him. It
is not built for JJ Reddick, and I think there's

(16:17):
a trade partner. Just think about this. What is an
organization with a ton of draft capital, a bunch of
good young players, which the Lakers have nobody in their
prime except Ad and it's a late prime. The Lakers
need shooters, wing defenders. Hey, they have a and that's
what the league is. The Lakers have a huge hole,

(16:39):
need shooters and now a coach who's going to be
good at coaching them. They need wing defenders. Think about
Oklahoma City Skinny chet Holmgren. They don't have enough girth
to face a Jokis or a Karl Anthony Townsend, go
Bear or a Horford and of Porzingis. They just don't

(17:00):
have enough. They don't have enough girth. They're not good
enough on the glass. They got plenty of wings, SGA.
They need a big They have a ton of draft picks.
They also have a surplus of good young players. And
you're not winning championships with a bunch of good young players.
You're not. Even the Celtics went and got Drew Holliday

(17:21):
and Porzingis and an older player. Derek White's older than
you think. I think he's twenty nine years old. You're
not winning with kids in this league. So is Oklahoma
City get a brag to have all these draft picks
in great twenty two year olds, or do you want
to win? You're not beating Denver Boston with a bunch
of kids. You're not beating them with Chet Holmgren, You're not.
It's over. I don't know if Sam Presty has the guts,

(17:43):
but I would think these are the key pieces. I
think there's a perfect trade partner to build a roster
and give JJ Reddick a chance.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Anthony Davis with chet Holmgren with a.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Lou Dort with an SGA is immediately along with Boston
and Denver, a favorite to win the title. That is
a great team. Meanwhile, what do the Lakers need? Twenty
three year old Jalen Williams average nineteen a game. His
ceiling's probably closer to twenty five to twenty six. He's

(18:16):
twenty three. He can defend Cason Wallace, tremendous young defender,
only twenty high ceiling. Take a while, but Lebron will
get him up and running quickly. Four first round picks.
Try to get most of them. Not this draft, but
next draft. This is a lousy draft. Try to get
the next draft. The money doesn't work with this. You

(18:37):
have to add a third team. You got to make
the money work. Lakers may have to take a bad contract,
probably with a big, but this roster is not JJ
Reddicks roster.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
You give him some.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Three and D guys, some wing guys, some shooter guys.
Lebron can hit a three. He just had one of
his best, if not his best, three point shooting. You
may have to move in Austin reeves, but Ad would
fetch you what you haven't had forever, Young ascending players
in their prime. I mean, come on, Kyle Kuzmlonzo ball
not as good as these guys, potentially so. And Lebron's

(19:12):
at a point in his career where he's gonna have
to play with young guys because the franchise now is
not Lebron. It can't singularly be Lebron. It was five
years ago, it's not now. So to me, there's a
trade partner. I don't know if Sam Presty just wants
to draft and develop his way to respect. He's already
done that. He's got no titles. He's been there once
at some point, even Boston and Brad Stevens said, we

(19:34):
have Tatum and Brown, who are a better combination today
than chet Holm, Good and SGA, and we got to
go ad two more pieces. Denver had Jokich Murray. They're like,
we need Gordon, we need another elite player. So to me,
you can draft and develop and get patted on the
back by all these fanboys on Twitter. Or you can
make a huge move at Oklahoma City and get for

(19:56):
the next four years with Ad, SGA and chet You
can give yourself a shot because this young team, they're
not as good as Denver, They're not as good as Boston.
Chet Holmgen gets tweaked yet no size, You're not formidable enough,
you know, front court? Just a thought, Just a thought.

(20:21):
I mean again, okayse he's got a million draft picks.
You only got so many roster spots. You only got
so many roster spots. It's time to shrink. It's time
to shrink the draft capitol and all the young guys
you love and get a dog and go get a
seventy five game dominant defensive player with a great offensive player.
Both SGA and Homebren are terrific offensive players. You need

(20:44):
a big dog down that doesn't want to shoot threes.
That's gonna protect their rim. Or you can have a
bunch of draft picks and kids. Draft picks and kids
don't win in this league.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
They just don't win.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And the Lakers. You'll say, well, the Lakers won't win.
You want to get They're not gonna win a championship
here in the next two years. You got to give
JJ rec Reddick a fighting chance with a roster built
for what he does, wings and shooters and Lebron running
the show for the next two to three years. There's
my proposal. That's what I would do. Sam Presty might

(21:15):
not even take the call. Jmack with the news.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
This is the herd Line News.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So I just posted your trade thing on on my Instagram.
I'm very curious how Lakers fans react. I'll say this,
how does Anthony Davis uh respond to being shipped to OKC?
Clutch Lebron clutches, Lebron and a D and all of
a sudden, Clutch goes to a D. A A we're
sending you to Oklahoma City? Has he taken that? You

(21:44):
guys always do that.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
You know what. KD was there for years and if
you ask KD, he liked it. Russell Westbrook City I liked.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Because he didn't have a choice. Well, I mean drafted
by there you have to play, you make okay.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
See you sound like it's a Yemen.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You just it's the middle of the country. It's it's
a cool down not Yemen or outer Mongolia, but it
basically is Siberia. I know, I think it there.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
These guys don't go out on the town anyway. There
By the way, you're on a plane for half the
season there. The other half of the season you're sleeping,
practicing and playing. These guys aren't out on the town.
It's in the middle of and the off season you
go have your Malibu place. I don't care where I play.
I want to play with a winner.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
The Lakers were in the conference finals two years ago.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Dude, the West is packed and everybody's young and getting better.
Two years ago. Miles will be eight years ago. Huh.
The Warriors three years ago on a title. They're a
mile away.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Did you cover the Lebron reaction when he gets draft
picks aka young guys.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Lebron, according to a story, had no saying the coach,
this is about JJ Reddick. You don't want to give
JJ Redick a shot. This roster is the opposite of
what he he wants shooters. They have the wing defenders
Boston and there's exactly what he wants. Eight guys that
can ball handle, shoot and defend. Lakers have like two.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Don't you think Pelinka can reshape the roster of this offseason?
You don't have any faith the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I don't have. You only have one great trade piece.
Lebron's not a great trade piece. At thirty nine. You
have one great trade piece who just had as healthy
as a year, and in the last eight he's had
one really healthy year. It was just the one you had.
You gonna bet he's gonna play seventy six.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Games again it was seventy two. You're laughing as you say, well,
I listen. Headlines at the end of the show is
gonna be spicy because you're not gonna like by Reddick reacted.
All right, Let's get to the NFL. Trevor Lawrence signed
the biggest contract in Jaguars history, making him the highest
paid quarterback in the NFL. His deal also includes the
third most guaranteed money in league history. Lawrence is not

(23:47):
feeling any pressure despite the big money.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Quarterback in this league is pressure anyways. So yeah, I
guess on the outside, there's gonna be a bigger expectation,
you know, with the you know, with the long term
you and being the franchise quarterback and you know, having
the contract to I guess say that it might change
how other people look at it, But for me, I
think I've had that. I've kind of carried that responsibility anyways.

(24:12):
But it does feel good to have it done. That
was a goal that you know, team and myself and
my team wanted to get done. Is to have it,
you know, finished by the time training camp came around,
so we could just you know, put everything towards this
year and getting ready to go.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Bring a championship here.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
They'll be fun bring bring a championship here.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Well yeah, probably in your Super Bowl bubble, Yeah, they are.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Actually the Jags and the Jets are not.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
You know that yesterday I showed you my bubble, Remember
I showed you in the contract.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeahs are now in the mix.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
There's twelve teams that have a shot based on how
contracts work with quarterbacks in the league. Jets and Jags
are both lower end, but they're in there.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
So Trevor Lawrence last three seasons. If you had to guess, no, no, no,
he's hurt over his last three seasons.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
A lot of them, you know, a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Sixty Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Most of the NFL ones had battle lines.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Oh that's play. It couldn't possibly be like the Jets.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Actually he plays though, that's good, unnecessary jab it by deets.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
All right, fine, let's move on to the next topic. Now,
this one, this is gonna irk you. So Jordan Love
is next man up to get paid two as well,
But Jordan Love is a more interesting one right now.
Adam Schefter of the Other network believes Trevor Lawrence's fifty
five million dollar average annual value will be the floor

(25:32):
the floor for Jordan Love's new deal, saying, I don't
believe Jordan Love is taking less than Trevor Lawrence. Now
you and I have sparred over this. Jordan Love. I
think he's basically had like a good eight game stretch.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, we would prefer we would prefer they signed this
deal in late October. Would be ideal for me. I'd
love to see eight more. But the good thing the
Packers have going for them they draft exceedingly well, and
they have a stile of receiver, O line and tight
end talent that they don't have to pay for a

(26:05):
long time, especially wide receiver and tight end talent, so
they've got a stockpile for about three years. They don't
have to be any of these guys, and they have
hit on almost every tight end and wide receiver draft pick,
so you know they want to lock this up. I
tend to trust the Packers. They've been so good at
this position and so good offensively. I just trust them.

(26:27):
They're seeing practice video.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I'm not, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, they we just saw the games. So sometimes
somebody just earns my trust, the Packers and offense and quarterbacks.
If they think it's right, I trust them.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
So Jordan Love will drew up only five percent of
the salary cap this year because he's on a really
low number. Colin if that's spikes next year too, I
don't know, fifty five as his average, Well then he
eats up sixteen vercent sixteen to twenty, and then you're
getting incroaching Dak Prescott.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Okay, but the difference is the Cowboys don't have six
receivers they like or two receiver two tight ends as
good as the one the Packers have. So the problem
with Dallas is they haven't hit on as many offensive
draft picks. The Packers have hit on all of them,
every one of those draft picks at wide receiver, all
of them can play. They went and got two tight

(27:17):
ends last year, both the rext one. So they've hit
on every offensive draft pick, including Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So if you see Love is making let's just say
six million a year.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm okay with it. I would love to see eight
more starts. But I think he's gonna be fine. I
think what I saw last year, and it was capped
off by the Dallas performance where he was significantly more nimble, twitchy,
with a better arm than Dak on the road in
his first playoff game, I was like, all right, I've
seen enough. I just I remember when I saw Jared
Goff go toe to toe with Mahomes. It was a

(27:49):
Monday night football game supposed to be scheduled for Mexico,
and at that time we like Jared got That's all
I needed to see from Jared Goff. I was like, no, no,
no American idol. Nine seconds in, you can tell who
can sing? This is you? Can see talent very c J. Stroud.
Second game, that's a franchise. Quarterback Joe Burrow, third game,
that's a franchise. It doesn't take long to see talent.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Jalen Hurt Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Jalen Hurts is really talented. Now he's better with styching
than without him, but he's obviously mega talented. That's not
that's not debatable.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I just it feels like and again, I like love,
I don't love him. That sounds silly, but at any rate,
eight games calling he had a good eight game stretch.
That's it. Jalen Hurts got paid off an entire season
where he was nearly the MVK.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Let's think of it.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I can't think of a chick quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Tebow had a great seven game stretch. But if you
were reasonall and honest.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
There was no good stats there.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's right. So it's not the winning stream. It was
eight games. He was in shootouts, he was productive, he
didn't do interceptions, he made good decisions. Eight games at
his level. C J.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Last year at eight games, Tim Tebow I had seven.
I didn't buy any of it. So it's Daniel Jones
made the playoffs. I didn't buy any of them right,
So it's not just about the number. It does not
take that I've never bought into two as a guy,
I'd pay fifty five million, and he's been to the playoffs.
You have to contextualize all of it. My eyes and
the Packers' history at quarterbacks tell me he's worth mid fifties.

(29:19):
Between trusting that franchise and my eyes. Was I shocked
that he got that good? Yes, but it was a
absolutely legitimate eight game stretch. He was in all sorts
of game. He had good weather, he had bad weather,
he had home, he had road. He was great in
all of them for eight weeks.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
So if he's getting fifty five, my gosh, brock Perty's
going to break the bank next summer.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
No, he's not as good as rock Perty. He's not
as close to his athletic he's not as big, he
didn't have that arm. He's not close to Jordan Love
in terms of talent, not close. Cognitively, brock makes really
good decisions. Who's the bigger athlete, the twitchier athlete, the
better arm, athlete, who moves better. It's all Jordan Love,
all Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Final stories to the NBA were old, George will be
the biggest name available in free agency. Clippers, they so
far have not wanted to pay him more than Kawhi.
The seventy six ers have been linked to Paul George,
but according to Sham Sharania, NBA reporter, Philly's interest in
Paul George has significantly waned in recent days. Now, remember

(30:20):
yesterday we talked about Paul George went on a podcast
and made some comments And I'm just trying to figure
out why all of a sudden, Phillies lukewarm on Paul George. Well,
did Darryl Morey see something in the finals and is.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Like, no, Paul George maybe lukewarm on the Clippers. And
they don't want to look like publicly they took a
swing and got the facial So my take is they
have reached out to Paul George. Paul George said, not
really that interested. They want to protect the franchise. They
don't want to look like they took a big swing
and he said no thanks. So they are going to

(30:53):
frame it as if they're not interested. But the truth
is they probably reached out and Paul wasn't interested.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
And be a leverage play as well. Hey, Hey, I
know the Clippers aren't offering you the max.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
We're not either.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
We're sorry it's not coming, like are the are the
seventy six ers? Also, they probably are trying to dodge
any Joel embiid tampering nonsense, Remember the final Joel Embid's like,
Paul George, we could use this guy, you know, I
don't know. It just feels like this is a leverage season,
if you will, where the teams and the players. Trey
Young puts out that tweet like an hour glass. Now

(31:25):
he got the set. All of a sudden, the Sixers
interest waning in Paul George.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Something seems fishy. There, no, no, it's trying to protect
the enterprise. This is what companies do. We weren't that interested, right,
That's what big companies do. This company's probably done it.
The one I used to work at. We weren't that interested. Anyway.
When you reach out and the person says, now I'm
gonna pass, that's just part of the games. It's it's

(31:51):
it's I get it. I love Paul George, but you
know he wants to stay in La.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
He chose La. He's been to the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
He didn't like it. And probably didn't want to go
to the.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
East does feel a little lot if Paul George I
was like, I can't wait to get back to the
East coast.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
That doesn't know Jmack with the news.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the line.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
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a coach without experience and a big brand and let
you think about that.

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Speaker 1 (33:09):
So a couple of things here. I'm reading Bill Plashk.
He's a very popular long time columnist in Los Angeles
for The Times. His headline in foolishly hiring JJ Reddick.
The Lakers continued down the road to nowhere. So uh
not everybody loves the move. Let me give you a

(33:30):
comp And somebody I know had over to the house
for dinner before and a really really good guy, really
smart guy, Aaron Boone, manager of the Yankees. So Aaron
Boone took over a big brand, the Yankees, JJ Reddick
taking over a big brand, the Lakers, big city media,
New York, LA. Both inherited good teams. The Lakers are good,

(33:53):
not great. Yankees made the playoffs, a good team. Both
had one big star in their prom Aaron Judge was
young but was already a monster and ad. Both franchises
are owned by children of a legendary father, Jerry Buss
and George Steinbrenner. Aaron Boone was just broadcasting radio and television.

(34:16):
JJ Reddick was just broadcasting television and podcasting. I know
Aaron really smart, but he had no experience. I don't
know JJ. I'm told he smart with no experience. Both
JJ Reddick and Aaron Boone were very similar players, intense
grinders from athletic families who hung it up both at

(34:38):
thirty six years old. They were overachievers, maybe a bit
athletically good, but not stars. And Aaron Boone, with the Yankees' microscope,
was learning on the job first couple of years. He
got some pushback on how he handled pictures. But the
three things that Aaron Boone did and why he's still

(35:01):
now managing. He had a really good relationship with Brian Cashman.
JJ Reddick needs to have a very good relationship with
Rob Polinka. Aaron Boone, unlike a lot of old baseball people,
was not stubborn with analytics. He bought into him. Aaron
tends to just like information. That's one thing I can
say for certain. Aaron likes new information. That's who he

(35:22):
is and he wants new stuff. He's not a stubborn guy.
JJ Reddicks an analytic guy. He loves the way the
Celtics play basketball. And the other thing. Aaron Boone's likable
and got total buy in from guys like Aaron Judge
very early and JJ Reddick we know Lebron likes him,
so I can see JJ Reddick doing all those things.

(35:45):
And I know there are different sports, but you gotta
buy into the analytics and don't be stubborn. Got a
good relationship with a general manager, and you need buy
in from your star. Because both baseball and the NBA
mow through coaches. Boone, because Cashman and the Yankees were patient,
has got a great, great baseball team, not a perfect

(36:06):
baseball team, probably not athletic enough in some spots defensively,
but a very good baseball team capable of winning it all.
And the Lakers aren't. But Aaron's team wasn't initially maybe
not that not quite that championship level. Either had to
make some moves. So I my feeling is we can

(36:27):
bury JJ Reddick, but smart guys who are highly competitive,
and that's JJ Reddick and Aaron Boone. They have a
very quick learning curve. And I've been saying this for
years in my business. High or smart. You can teach
him radio, I can teach people television. I can't make
you smarter. Aaron Boone smart, It's worked, and JJ Reddick's

(36:48):
smart competitive. I think it could work. Let me let's
talk about expectations for the Lakers, though, and that's that's
not something this organization can come grips with. So, as
I said earlier, this roster has almost no three point shooters.

(37:08):
Celtics led the league Lakers twenty eight. They don't take
a lot of them, and they don't make a lot
of them. JJ Reddick, that was his specialty. That's what
we know he can coach. So this roster's not built
for him. I think they have to make a big swing,
be it a Trey Young or move Anthony Davis. I
think they have to make a big swing. Get younger,
get more athletic on the wing, and get more shooters.

(37:29):
I mean, Ad was the healthiest he has been in forever,
and he's not going to play seventy six games next year.
The West is loaded, it's young, it's a sending. This
is not a championship team. So what are realistic expectations.
So let's just look at this. Last year they won
forty seven games with Lebron and a d playing over

(37:53):
seventy and the West was good but still really young, okay,
and that got him eight best in the West. With
this roster getting older as the West gets better, a
coach with no experience. Forty one and forty one five hundred,

(38:17):
to me, is a win that's realistic. If Ad plays
sixty nine games, maybe sixty six. If Lebron plays sixty
seven games, there's no way eighty's playing seventy six again.
So to me, the Lakers are in no man's land.
They're not great and they're not terrible. It's the worst

(38:37):
place to be in the NBA. At least, when you're terrible,
you get draft picks, you get in the lottery. The
Lakers are in no man's land. For years Portland with
Damon in that group, they were in no man's land.
They weren't great, they weren't terrible. What did they get
out of it? One nice Western Conference trip. That's what
the Lakers just got out of it a couple years ago.
They're in no man's land. The Lakers have to pick

(38:57):
a direction. Do you want to get bad or do
you want to get great? And they don't have the
patience for a total rebuild, So to me, from middle
to great, there's one way to do it. Get Tray
Young or trade Ad. Both work for what JJ Reddick's
capable of coaching at this point. Shooters, wing players, three

(39:21):
and D guys. That's what I know he can do.
I have no proof that he can coach big guys AD.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I have no proof of that.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Ad is a hot and cold offensive player, more of
a defensive guy. So to me, tray Young or move Ad,
rebuild it. Five year window, draft picks, youth, shooters, wing defenders.
All the Lakers need all of that stuff. This roster
in the ascending West. You are in no man's land

(39:51):
with this because I'll say it again, you're not getting
seventy six games from Ad and you're not getting seventy
one from Lebron. You're not so But I don't buy.
I watched Aaron Boone in that hot, you know stove.
You know, you put your hand on that Yankee stove,
it'll get burnt. They all have twenty writers around the

(40:12):
cage every day. That's the biggest story in New York,
even during the you know, October football season. You know
it's the Yankees are a big story. Aaron Boone navigated it,
fell little, pushbacked on pitching moves early. But people like
Aaron Boone. GM liked him, fought into analytics, Clubhouse likes him.
I think JJ Reddick can work with a big swing

(40:36):
to tray young or ad moving that it can work.
You know when you hire these young coaches in football,
if you hire Jim Harball, you allow Jim Harball to
build the roster he wants. That's understood. When you hire
a new football coach, GMS allow the coach to build
a roster he wants. In basketball, why aren't you going

(40:58):
to do that? I mean, you're and somebody forty million
bucks for five years. You're gonna just stick him with
a Darvin hamd roster, defense length big that that's not
what he's gonna do. So if football does a really
good job, you know in college you can recruit twenty
five thirty players every year. But in the NFL, look
at the new coaches. You know, Jamiko Ryan's a defensive guy.

(41:21):
They're letting him dictate a lot of their personnel moves.
And I think that's the way to do it. In basketball,
let give JJ Reddick a fighting chance
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