July 10, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin shares his top 10 quarterback - head coach combos in the NFL before training camp begins.
He also welcomes Bills LT Dion Dawkins in studio to talk about the expectations for Buffalo this season and how they'll replace Stefon Diggs
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And so the camp's open up on the Saturday, Baltimore
Ravens due. You get some rookiees, but we're getting close.
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The veterans don't have to show up yet. We're getting close.
Seven of the last ten Super Bowl champs have been AFC.
Last year AFC versus NFC, AFC won forty six and
lost thirty four. The NFL, choosing its first game of
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the season, chose the Chiefs and the Ravens AFC. So
it does feel like here at Fox we primarily have NFC.
It feels like it is tilted toward an AFC sport
over the last five or six years. A lot of
that is the bad teams had high draft picks and
a lot of them hit on quarterbacks. Houston, Cincinnati with Burrough.
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You know, Kansas City wasn't a bad team. Alex Smith
got him to the playoffs. But you have a lot
of AFC teams that were bad or took a swing
on a quarterback and they all hit Jacksonville justin Herbert
to the Chargers, who now has Jim Harbad, Trevor Lawrence, CJ.
Stroud was surprisingly good right out of the shoot. So
in the NFC for years and years didn't have a
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real bottom. You know, you'd have Washington underachieving Lions for
years and years. But AFC just they've hitting a lot
of quarterbacks. And this is a coach quarterback league. If
you have the coach and the quarterback, you can have
flaws everywhere as long as you're not horrific on the
offensive line and your quarterback's not under siege on most snaps.
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And so I think I do feel like the NFC
is drawing closer to the AFC in the coaching quarterback combination,
but it's still AFC over NFC my top ten. If
I gave you a top ten AFC NFC quarterback combination,
the first one's an easy one. That's Andy Reid and
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Patrick Mahomes highest win percentage by any quarterback coach combo
in the Super Bowl era. That's an easy one. He's
the great play designer, a clever play caller, and Mahomes
right now is the most gifted quarterback potentially ever but
certainly playing right now. Number two, I'd go McVeigh and
Matt Stafford. I think Matt Stafford, because of his years
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in Detroit, was overlooked a next to Mahomes, maybe the
best arm talent in the league. Side arm does everything
but throw it left handed, big, over the top arm.
I think McVeigh maybe the smartest coach period in the sport.
I'd put him at two. I'd go John Harbaugh and
Lamar Jackson. Three. Bottom line is they've won ten plus
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games and reach the playoffs in five or six years. Listen,
Lamar is different and you're gonna have a different offense
with him. But if you can win seventy five percent
of your games, especially in the AFC North to be
that good perpetually. I'd put them third. I'd put Jim
Harbaugh and Justin Herbert forth. Now a little bit of
that is a projection. I think Herbert's a remarkable talent,
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and there's an argument to be made college and pro
Jim Harbaugh is the best coach on the planet, so
I would put them fourth. In the coach quarterback combo.
I would put Sean McDermott Josh Allen fifth, and I
think we all know Josh is probably even more so
than Mahomes just physically on a different planet, size, speed,
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arm strength. There's just nothing like Josh Allen in the world,
including Mahomes. I think the misgivings we have sometimes defensive
coaches in big playoff games against offensive coaches we worry about.
But they've got four straight division titles. They're obviously a
very good football organization. So I would say four of
the top five are AFC. Okay, so that right off
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the top. Once again, it's the AFC. You can argue
about the order after Reid and Mahomes. Certainly I would
go to the next five, and I start with another
AFC team, Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. Now, listen, Bengals
have reached at least the AFC Championship in any year
Joe Burrow's been healthy. Now, I do believe he is
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one injury away from real adult conversations on looking to
draft another quarterback at some point, maybe not a first
round pick. But now this is his first year without
offensive coordinator Brian Callahan, who's the Titans head coach, so
that'll be a little interesting. Then starting at number seven,
I feel like the NFC teams are on the come.
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Matt Lafleur, Jordan Love would be number seven. I'd like
to see a little bit more of Jordan Love. But
the last of the year, the kid was on fire,
and I'll give Matt Lafleur a lot of credit. When
Aaron Rodgers was there, I felt like it was Aaron's
offense and Aaron's team. I thought last year Matt Lafleur
could really flex. I thought he was really clever. I
loved his game plans, I loved his alterations at half.
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I thought Matt Lafluur really established himself as a top
five six coach in the league. Number eight Mike McCarthy
and Dak Prescott Listen, They've won twelve games each of
the last three seasons. Nobody else in the league has
done that. McCarthy's a good, solid coach. Dakxa Soligan that
you can argue they're both B plus, but that gives
you number eight in the NFL. We just we want
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more in January. Number nine, I'd probably go to and
Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniels sort of Kyle Shanahan West very
clever when two is healthy. There's an argument this is
the breeze Sean Payton relationship too, is accurate. Do I
think he can go up in cold weather to Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City, Cincinnati if it's thirteen degrees in windy Do
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I think he can go toe to toe with a
Mahomes or a Josh Allen. No, I do not, But
you don't have to play those guys much. Cross your
fingers the weather goes your way. Number ten, I'd do
Jared Goff and Dan Campbell. I think Dan Campbell, in
my opinion, can be a little bit too much led
by emotion Sometimes. I don't love all of Dan Campbell's
situational coaching. Highly emotional guy. I wish he was a
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bit more restrained. But I've been saying this about Jared
Goff for years. Throws one of the prettiest balls in
the league. The Lions have winning records in back to
back years. If I had to go eleven, I'd go
Shanahan and Brock pretty so I could say the bottom
six through eleven, there's a lot more NFC representation, But
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I still think by and large, the AFC at the
top six of the top ten quarterback coaching combinations, We're
not going to argue with Reid and Mahomes. Everything after
that you can argue about. And with that, Dion Dawkins
three Pro Bowls, highest credded Buffalo Bill offensive lineman every year.
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He's been there seven seasons, all of the Bills in
Buffalo six time playoff for former. Good to see you again,
my friend. Nice to have you in. You know, it's
interesting because I always said this about Phil Mickelson because
he played in the era of Tiger Woods. You just
don't understand how good Phil Mickelson was. It's the same
with a Kei molajja on. If there's no Michael Jordan,
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the keeam could have four titles. I saw him go
toe to toa shack and at times really give shack
a problem. So you guys are just happened to be
in the era of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, and
you feel like sometimes you want to say, hey, everybody,
we're winning like ten games a year. We're good over here.
That you get you sometimes get criticized because you're just
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not beating it. Maybe the best coach quarterback combination in
the history of the sport.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think, uh, in the era that we're in now,
you know, like there's a lot of great players all
over this this league. You know, it's an offensive league now,
it's a passing league, it's an offensive league, it's a
quarterback driven league, and I think there's a lot of
great players all around. You know, like, yes, we are
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thankful to be playing in the time that we're playing
because we're playing with some of these some of these
guys that are that are putting up numbers that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We haven't seen. And the money is good, and the
money is great.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
The money is great when it's great, and then it changes,
and then it's great, and then it changes then it's great.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know. So yeah, yeah, my take on Stefan Diggs
was it was time loved him. I said this about
Klay Thompson. There's time, it's pro sports, there's salary caps. Yeah.
And I also think key On Campbell's great. And I
also think by getting the kid out of Utah the
tight end with Dawson, Knox, Cook, Josh, I think you're fine.
I don't think that's going to be the issue. I
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think you'll be fine. There was a lot made about
the drama. I like Steffan, but I did think it
got verbal. You'd see some stuff where like he was
unhappy when you heard he was moving on. What was
your take?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Okay, you know it was it was it was more
so like like more so just just.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
A deep breath.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It was like it was just like all right, you know,
like Steph, Steph was a great teammate, Like Steph, Steph
is probably like one of the best teammates that that
I've had, you know, like seeing how he prepares for
a game, how he treats his teammates, how he executes
his passion. And I think what the world mistakes of
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what they're calling drama, it's just the passion that he
has for the sport. Like I don't expect anybody to
be happy with losing, like and we're all not frantic,
but like we're we're all at that height of emotions,
Like it's an emotional sport, and Steph is an emotional
guy for the things that he loves and football is
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one of those things.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And uh, I think we're like, like we're gonna miss him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
We love him, and uh if it was time and
Brandon Bean has all those keys, like we don't control
any of that, you know, I was sad to see
him go, but I'm happy to see him smile. And uh,
you know, he's smiling and he'll be a great player
wherever and he goes. And I'm just glad that, you know,
like we got to take a shot at it with Steph,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, you know it's interesting. Dean Dawkins Bill's offensive lineman,
best highest graded lineman Buffalo's had all years. He's been
there for years, I said, I criticized Sean mcjordai's said, Shawan,
I watched Sean McVeigh rebuild his ole line in one year.
I watched Andy Reid do it in one year. I'm like,
outside of the Dawkins guy, I need that offensive line
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in that run game to be better and now you've
got Cook. Was it a fair criticism guys like me
saying I'm watching these offensive coaches fix that thing fast?
Did feel like it took him about fought. Now I
do field. Last year, you guys, pass protection was excellent, Yes, excellent.
In fact, there's a stat here you allowed the few
a sacks in the league. And I did think you're
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you found your running back. He's an a for sure.
Was the criticism fair for years? That can we give
Josh little help up front with the run game? Was
that a fair criticism?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I mean it's it's always fair because we went
We've had so many changes every single year.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We've had so many changes.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And like I tell people when I talk about it,
is I play left a left tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I'm blessed. I'm I'm good at what I do.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And I've had a different guard every single year since
I've been in the NFL. I've been in the league
for eight years, and I've had a different guard every.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Single year that I have been in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We've had a center that just went to the Jaguars,
which is.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Mitch but he's been there good play.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And then our right guard and our right tackle has
switched off and on, so we've had a different piece
of movements ever since we've got there. And I honestly
want to tip my hat to Josh because he's been
scrambling and doing his thing with the group that you know,
finds the brotherhood during camp and OTA's and to get
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the season done and last year, like we were fully
healthy the entire year, and I'm thankful for it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I want you to tell our audience this because they
may not understand this that I've said before, like the
Jets are a great example. You got old guys, you
got a rookie, you got new guys in the preseason.
The old guys don't take snaps anymore during games. So
forget that that Jets old. They're gonna be as good
as their own line. I don't care about the defense.
I don't care about Aaron. There's a lot of stuff.
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They got a lot of movement. I like Tyron Smith's
gonna give you about fourteen games. I like the rookie.
He's never taken an NFL snap. It's a whole different
ballgame than college. So tell the people about the relationship
and a new guard, because I think the fans just say, hey,
you're on an island. Just protect the quarterback, right. What
why it matters, Yeah, to have a new guard. Why
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is that symmetry so important?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, because uh, like and I and I really appreciate
that because a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
But like when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Guard, and I don't know because I don't play guard,
but when you're playing guard, the guard controls the the
I guess forward and back of the pocket. If the
pocket is getting pushed back vertically back, that means that
the guards are not doing what they're supposed to do,
which is holding the line. The tackles are supposed to
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keep the with We're supposed to keep everything away while
the guards keep everything forward. So over time, like you know,
the like the quarterback sees like like, Okay, this guy
is a little bit less stronger than this guy. I know,
if we're playing against a heavier or lighter or faster line,
I know that I could just step to my right
just a little bit to get this pass off. Or
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I know, you know, Dion is going to keep this
guy as wide as possible. So if I need to drift,
I need to drift. I could drift to my left
and to get the ball out, so the guards that
shift in and out. It takes reps, reps over reps
over reps during camp, during OTA's, during live reps for
the quarterback to actually understand what type of player he has.
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And then with seeing us in front of different type
of competition, Like we got guys like like like on
the Chiefs, like Jones, right, Like we know that, all right,
Jones is one of those guys like we have to.
Josh knows that I can be over here just a
half a second more than this side, and I know
that Dion is going to do this or chop a
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guy down, or Spencer is going to do do that.
So the quarterback knows where he can puzzle his passes him. Yeah,
and Josh's had to do do what Josh does. And
he's been guessing, but not really guessing, but trying to
figure out who his guys really are over a duration
of a season because it takes the full season to
really understand.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I always feel like it's an advantage to be a
really good offensive lineman in division games, yeah, because most
pass rushers, even the good ones, either have a tell
or two moves right, And so when you play a
guy twice. The advantage is to you, not to him,
for sure, right, and I've.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Always so as that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Division games are an advantage to the offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, it is a full advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
But if you take it as oh, I got his card,
then it could mess you up. But yes, like when
you play the same guy over and over and over,
you kind of know exactly who he is.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So tell me a good guy that's out. You don't
have to play him anymore. Maybe you're retired, retired guy,
but a guy that you knew, you played enough that
you kind of knew you had a sense of what
he was. Rookies, you're just better than I don't worry
about rookies. But I'm talking about a guy that you
played or maybe don't play. Maybe he's in the NFC
now that you had some success.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Maybe maybe like a guy like Robert win right, Like
a guy like Robert Quinn, like a great player, but
once you play him over and over, like he was
with the Dolphins when I was really young, and he
was really good at that jump chop move, and you know,
over repetition you could kind of time it and figure
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it out, almost like a boxing match. But like You're
just jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at it, and you
can time what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And that's where the benefit was to a younger player.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Because you play him once and then you're like, all right,
you already know what this older vet is going to
give you every single play and it kind of is
definitely to our eventage.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Have there been players that have surprised you on the edge,
Oh yeah, and you're like, oh boy, have you ever
had a game when you feel like you're bailing water
for a quarter?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah? Like bailing water.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Look, I am very confident in my game as of
right now. I think and I know that I'm, if
not the best left tackle, I'm the best left tackle
in the NFL. And my favorite player that I play
against is Trey from the Bengals, Trey Henderson. He is
one of the best players that I think just mentally,
physically and just what he does on the football. He
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comes out there and he plays with no gloves on.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's x Crosby field.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That is that is exactly that is.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That is one of those weird tells that when you
come out on the football field and you see a
player and you're looking at him on snap one, you're like,
all right, his helmet is tied up, he has his
shoes all right, swag check. Okay, let's see what type
of player is. And then you look at his hands
and his hands. He has no gloves on. And for
a player that plays and with his hands all game like,
that means that you're just a little a little bit like,
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all right, he's a real football player. And then he
comes and he hits you every single play, boom boom
boom boom boom. Every rep, every play, he's coming at you.
And that tells you that you have to be on
your p's and q's no matter what. But and and
Miles Garrett, like Miles Garrett absolute tip my hat.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He's just one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He's one of those guys that that I know that look,
I respect you on and off of the field, and
I know the type of player that you are, and
he brings it every single rep.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So, yes, there's multiple players.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
These guys on the defensive fensive side are getting more
freakish every single day.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I always respect it. I always feel like a great
offensive lineman is an intellect. At some point, you're an intellect.
You have to see the game before it happens. I
always think a great pass rusher he's got a half
screw for sure. He's blowing stuff up like the great
pass rushers, there's just a different click to them.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Are are our most trash talkers, Max Max Crosby is
a trash talker.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Most most of those guys are trash talker.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That's right, that's part of their DNA.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, it's just it's just what uh, it's what they do.
They try to get into the offensive lineman's head. But uh,
they are trash talkers, you know. And uh, Vaughn is Vaughn,
which is my teammate.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Now what I'm thankful for.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Vaughan is one of those funny trash talkers and he
might catch you like but like off guard, like like
what's you today?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But he's talking. He's talking smack.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So you're you're protecting And I say this with all
respect to Mahomes. You're protecting the most physically gifted quarterback
I've ever show. There's nothing different for sure. He also
is in the second smallest market in Buffalo, and I
think to myself, you know, you guys wear helmets, so
you know, fans know who you are, but you can
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hide a little. For Josh Allen to be in Buffalo,
it's like farvar Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Do you
ever think he feels a bit overwhelmed, like can't go
to the grocery store kind of thing you ever find?
I think to myself. I mean in New York, he'd
be mobbed in Buffalo. How does he go to He doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Josh doesn't you know, he's Josh Josh. He stays away,
you know, out of respect of the little bit of
time that he has because he spends all day at
the facility, so when he's not in the building, he
can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Like dinners are usually the best because.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We go in one way and out the next, and
the people that are in charge there they take great
care of us.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Where we can just sneak in and sneak out.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But Josh, Josh is at the highest of the highest,
like mobs will really mob and it's.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Like a real mob.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh yeah, how does he lead? Does he ever bark?
I mean, does Josh ever bark? I mean, is he
ever allowed? I mean, like you he didn't have to,
but is he is he ever gotten afty? A little bit?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Absolutely Josh.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Josh is like one of those guys that that will
do what it takes at that moment.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And uh, he's definitely a barker when that time comes.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And I've actually seen the bark a lot more this
OCA is where he's been like very very like verbal
because our team is different, like it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
There's not some young dudes on that.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We got some young dudes that like, you know, like
when they come in, like they see a little bit
of of of success and it could change. So Josh
is doing exactly what and what he should.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So you guys let go of a couple of really
good veterans, not only good players, like leader guys. So
it feels like to me, it's like you and Josh
are kind of like leaders. Now, Yeah, are you comfortable?
Are you comfortable barking? Are you comfortable being that guy?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, I've I've always barked, you know, like I'm I'm
always want to shoot it straight, like I don't like,
I don't hide. I live in a vulnerable state and
I tell it the way that it should. And I've
wore the captain c on my chest for three years
and it's it's a It's a blessing to even be
in that realm of looked at as that. So I
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think that when you're in a position to run a
football team, you have to bark, and you have to
know who you can bark too, because everybody doesn't take
barking the right way. So you have to learn what
type of bark to use for which type of player.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
That's interesting, like.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like, I don't know Keon fully yet because he's new.
I can't just be like Keon, let's go. I don't
know yet, So I'm gonna see in a couple practices
and see what type of kid he is when he
gets hit, and I'm gonna see and then if he
can take it, then he'll he'll definitely get the bars.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Buffalo's weather can be a little chilly. Yeah, you know,
Keon Kolem is a Florida kid. I always think it's
you know, you're a Temple guy. So do you do
you tell some of those Florida Texas guys when they
come up, You're like, okay, now, our summer it's about twelve.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Days, maybe ten maybe ten days, but it gets cold quick.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Do you do you do you give him a heads up?
Like you better be ready because it's brand of football
up here. There are no finesse. Buffalo build teams for sure.
You tell him that, no problem.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's it's more so like look kid, I mean they
always say like how do you do it?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Like how do you do it?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I always say, the blessing of it is we
could afford jackets, you know, like you could afford a
nice jacket. So get you a nice jacket, make sure
you start your car in the morning, and get your
butt to practice.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, my wife used to have to do on some
pr work around the country and she always said Buffalo
had the nicest people of anywhere.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
But they do, and I will I will back that
Buffalo does have have some great people.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know that they have. They're bad too, like bo has.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
You know they're bad, but you know, for the most part, Buffalo,
Buffalo's people.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Are are the best.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean a lot to the community.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
And they love us.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And you know, like I played at Temple, which it
wasn't Alabama, so I didn't really have that overall feel
of what being truly appreciated as an athlete was until
I got to the Bills and when I got there,
it was like the highest of the highest. So it's
a it's a beautiful feeling to have a neighborhood and
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a community. Really, you know, I key worship the Bills
because you know.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's interesting Brady goes. Part of the Brady story, Tom
Brady story is he was overlooked. So you're one of
the top two or three left tackles in the entire sport.
It's the second most valuable position after quarterback. And you
go to Temple. Does it still pish you off? Do
you still think yourself? Oh, like when you see a
pass rusher from Ohio State, do you think bring it?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I have the biggest tip on my shoulder and I
take it with the most pride that I'm playing against
guys that went to these big schools and have all
these accolades, and I'm and I'm doing my job.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know where they go to school for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You know, every guy we look at the depth chart
top to bottom size what round they got drafted. They're
forty times their weight, their their their bench press and
two twenty five their three con drill all of it.
I look at every single thing about the player. But no,
I am I'm thankful that I went to because Temple
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continued to mold me to have that dog. And uh,
when I'm off of the field, I'm very calm.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I'm I'm calm but chaotic, but I'm calm.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And then when I play, it's it's a whole different
ball game. Thank and thankful, tuiz and and and cultural.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Max Crosby is one of my favorite people. He is
and a part of why I like him is he's
just wired differently. How many times have you faced him? Twice?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I think it was twice.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think it was twice, but once when Max Crosby
was Max Crosby like you know, like when you like
now Max Crosby is is is Max Crosby Like he's flowing,
like he's he's at the best of his game and
he's getting better.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But you faced him when he was a kid younger.
Now you overlooked my rational school.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Still and still overlooked still.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
But it's okay because I'm winning in the shadows and
then that'll change and when it changes.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
But heyear in year eight and still great.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know Dion Dawkins, who has been the highest graded
offensive linemanth the Buffalo Bills every year he's been there.
It's always good senior man, it's a beautiful What are
you doing out west?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I train and I drive drift cars. Man, I'm I'm
big and drifting.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now what does that mean? That is drift?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
So let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So, like you know what NASCAR is, you know what
feeling drifting is? Where you drive sideways. It's literally driving
sideways and like but like you might think that like
you're going one hundred miles per hour, You're literally going
like maybe forty fifty sixty?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
How where do you do this?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
At the big Indian drift pit in uh? In Buffalo?
It's a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Was that a course at Temple? When did you get
into that? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I'm telling Buffalo just keeps unveiling different parts of Buffalo,
Like I didn't even know that Buffalo has this stuff.
And it's just like hey, damn, Like you want to
go drifting? Like Tony said, Dion, do you want to
go drifting? I was like, I don't know what drifting is.
And I go out there and I get in the
drift car and Eric just takes me on a spin
and I fell in love.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Like it was the same thrill of being.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
In the game because you're in control and you have
to fight in the car while spinning sideways. And then
two days later, I have my own car and I
was drifting my own car.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Two days later, they drove down there, picked the car
up and did their thing.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I do I And it's actually it's starting to pop
a little bit. It looks really really scary. Like I
guess the question would be, when you're in there, are
you more nervous than anything else?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
So no, And I'm gonna explain why I because it's
because like you have to think right, Like when you're
in a car and you're going two hundred miles per
hour straight with nobody really around you, when you're drifting
your this close to the car and that you're racing against.
So a little bump, a little top, it's not about
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to make the car do all this crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
It's just gonna spin it out and then you just
idle out.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Like the cars never flip, They never do all this
weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
The bumper might pop off, but the car will then stop.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And then it's over it.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, So it's you know.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You got a full cage, you got right, but you're
not as far apart from the car.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
You're closer.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm not pulling into Starbucks doing drifting that yeah, that
is crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Makes the car.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, well, I'm a monster athlete, so I got monster
that that's helping me with with all of the.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Ins and out.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And then I have Eric and Eric's crew which is
now in my crew in Buffalo, that are tuning in
and tweaking my engine and doing all the cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
There's a part of America things are happening in this Well.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's so cool, man, I'm telling you you would love it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
What would it take for Colin All to do is
just come out.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I'm gonna drift fifty five miles an hour on the
I five going home today.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That'll be That's probably more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Could see anybody love brother.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
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Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was gone for a couple of weeks, and you
know some NBA free agency, and you know like Klay Thompson,
you know he could make the MAVs a little better,
probably their fourth best player at this point third or
fourth best player. I thought there were two moves that
really stood out to me. Won again, won a loss.
I thought Isaiah Harten seen for the Knicks going to
Oklahoma City. Obviously he's a perfect fit for Oka, see
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they need size, rebounding, toughness. But I thought it was
a real loss for the Knicks. I love the McHale
Bridges move, but losing him feels punitive, like they four
of their best players are often tiny guards. They averaged
eight points more a game when Isaiah Hartenstein was on
the floor of the last two years, they led the
NBA regular season and postseason in offensive rebounds, in offensive rebounding.
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That's because of him. I thought he was a perfect fit.
He was a relentless player, he was physical, he was tough.
I thought he was a huge, huge loss for the
I thought Paul George nine straight years averaging twenty a game,
elite defender is a huge, huge get for Philadelphia. You know,
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Carmelo Anthony was a better high school player. He was
a prodigy and at Syracuse. But I would say Carmelo
Anthony wouldn't win you a series like Paul George would.
Carmelo eight playoff series in his career. Three excuse me,
He's won three playoff series in his career. George has
won eight playoff series in his career. Paul George is
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a better defender, He's in better shape. His game isn't
as pretty as a Carmelo Anthony, It's not as aesthetically pleasing.
Paul George is a great player and again a two
way player who's hit a ton of big shots in
big games. I don't know what the Clippers are doing,
but I know that when Paul George goes to MBID
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and Tyrese Maxey in the Sending Star, I felt like, oh,
that could challenge If m beats healthy, they could challenge
the Celtics. I felt that the Knicks could until they
lost Isaiah Hartenstein and then I thought, go big get
for Okac. They need this size and toughness. So those
are the two moves that really really stuck out to me.
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By the way, I like Michale Bridges a lot. I
think he's a great fit for the Knicks. But Julius Randall,
now he'll be a you know, it'll be a smaller lineup,
really small lineup. Some of the time I thought that
that was a bad. That was a bad moment for
the next Now people can say, well, you know he
was an eight to eight guy, eight points a rebound.
You can't pay him a fortune. I think when you
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get to the end of the year, you'll understand stand
why you had to pay him. That one hurt for
the Knicks' that's a really good player. But that's the
downside is that he got a lot of TV exposure.
He was such a great fit. He may not be
as crucial for Okac as he was for the Knicks,
but we looked this morning. They averaged eight more points
a game when he plays the last two seasons, then
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when he doesn't and he only averages eight points. But
that tells you the fit with the Knicks for him.
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Yee Lane Johnson in Philadelphia. Eagles joining us last hour.
Here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the
Herdline News Colin.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The Bills will look to replace the loss of Stefan
Diggs and Gabe Davis after moving on from them this offseason.
Buffalo drafted Keon Coleman out of Florida State early in
the second round, and the rookie said he's not feeling
any additional pressure to replace them, adding quote, all I
gotta do is come in be myself, be who I'm
supposed to be. Because I'm not Gabe, I'm not Steph.
(33:33):
I'm just Keon Colin. I am a massive fan of
Keon Coleman. I've had scouts executives tell me he's got
Keenan Allen and Mike Evans' type of ability. This is
six ' four putt returner, short area of quickness. People
criticize him for running a four to six. He ran
over twenty miles per hour in the gauntlet at the Combine.
That's the best time over the last two years. Played
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football and basketball at Michigan State before going to the Knowles.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
This is a freak athlete.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
He's gonna make contested catches and he often makes this
spectacular look regular in ordinary. He's dynamic, and I think
he's gonna be an instant day one, big time contributor
to Josh Allen in the Buffalo offense.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Well, last couple of years, they've nailed it on a
tight end, they've nailed it on a running back, so
they do feel like they have the requisite weapons. And
by the way, there's two positions in this league, maybe three,
where you can come in and rookie and be very
good running back, wide receiver and corner. A lot of
that's instinct. You're either you've got it or you don't.
You're on an island. As a corner you can cover,
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you can Sauce Gardner was great. Patrick Shirtan was great
first game in the NFL. Same at wide receiver. I mean,
Tank Dell walks into the league. You'd never watched them
play in college. He's great. Puka Nakua unbelievable. So there
are other positions, even a great college left tackle. There's
like a growth period quarterback, rush end. Sometimes it takes
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a year any any o line position. Tight Ends tend
to be slow developers because you don't have to block
in college like you do in the NFL. There are
positions linebacker, you can be a little over your skis.
If you can play wide receiver, you could have seventy
five eighty catches and a half dozen touchdowns. If you
have a Josh Allen and you're a deep threat, you
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can be just fine day one.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
And the confidence. I love the confidence.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You know the Raiders will hope that one of Aidan
O'Connell or Gardner Minshew will give the team stability under
center after missing out.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I'm Michael PENNOCKX junior and Jay and Daniels in the draft.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
In an appearance on Speak yesterday, DeVante Adams was asked
who he wants throwing him the football.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
I want whoever's gonna look the best, you know, when
it's time to win, is live bullets. So at the
end of the day, I don't have a preference other
than the fact that I want somebody that's confident, ready
to go when it's time to do it.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
So whoever that is, that's who I want throwing the ball.
I think right now, if I had to.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Say, I think Aiden has the job because you know,
obviously he was here before and that's the way that
it was was running with the ones more and until
Varnder comes in and you know, takes the job away
from him.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Is I think it is agent's job right now.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, if that's your starter in the AFC, you know
you're gonna be drafting number one, two or three. The
good news for the Raiders is they got a lot
of components. They hopefully have the right coach. My take
is they gotta raft. They'll be drafting New York Giants,
New England Patriots who don't need a quarterback, I would imagine,
and the Raiders. Cross your fingers. If you're a Titan fan,
(36:30):
I think they'll be okay, But I mean the Raiders
are going to be drafting way up the board next year.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I mean I like Antonio Pierce, but there's no doubt
they were interested in Pennis, Jaden Daniels and Listen. Gardner
Minshew's good in two or three games stretches, but he's
never been a starter for an entire season. Amil connell
had some moment slaps here a couple, but if you're
in the AFC West against bone Nicks, potentially Justin Herbert
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and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Mahomes, ae O'Connell doesn't move particularly well. And let's be honest,
Gardner Minshew was, Shane Steikin looked great, ok. Jalen Hurts was,
Shane Steikin was an MVP candidate, So the coach matters.
Now he's getting a defensive coach. So Gardner Minshew's not
going to put up last year Gardner Minshew numbers.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
I will say that Adams did recently admit that Aaron
Rodgers has been in his ear recruiting him to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
I mean, we've been talking about that. It feels like
for the last.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Year Aaron's got to worry about that whole line it's
not a receiver issue. They got an old line issue.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Okay, to Team USA basketball, where we tip off exhibition
against I should say ahead of the Olympics against Canada
tonight on FS one. Last summer, Canada defeated the US
and the FEEBA World Cup bronze medal game, but we
didn't have Steph for Lebron. Dylan Brooks has never sied away,
as you know, for a little trash talk and addressed
the remat saying there's no USA players that spoke up
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after the bronze medal game lost and wanted to play
our team. Our time was last year and now it's
our time for this year. But instead of getting bronze,
we want the gold Colin expectations for Team USA tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well, if Team USA is going to lose a game,
this would be the team that could beat them. I
don't think they will beat them, but Canada, between their
basketball and their soccer, are on a nice little run here.
But this is a really interesting Team USA because you
have these apparently Lebron's been great. You've got these legendary,
great older players, and then you've got these players like
(38:29):
Aunt Edwards who wanted me to go to guys, So
I actually think from an overall roster standpoint, it's a
pretty interesting team.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
SGA Jamal Murray on Canada.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
And then, by the way, we were talking about Derek
White earlier a few minutes ago. Jalen Brown, I don't
know if you saw this, Colin tweeted out three emojis
like looking and what that tells me, and what the
speculation is is that maybe he wasn't super happy not
to be asked to join Team USA. He said in
October he would be honored, and to have Derek White
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as teammate is a little.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Bit of friction there. Potentially you said Derek whiteod be great.
Jalen Brown is like a better version. He can do
all the different things.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, jaallens a better player. That's interesting, right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Fourth story, lass story.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I should say the Warriors moved on from Chris Paul
this offseason and instead of ring chasing CP three, ended
up signing a one year deal to play with Wimby
and the Spurs. And his introductory press conference, Chris Paul
talked about how playing time was the biggest factor in
his decision.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
I love nothing more than the opportunity to play and
contribute and.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Hope. My family is everything.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
My wife is here, my kids are back in LA
and that's where they will be during the season. And
I love basketball so much that I could be close
to home. But if I'm not playing, I'm not happy.
We saw this opportunity, even though it had put me
away from my family. My family knows me better than anybody,
and they know that. You know, I just want to play.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, Colin, I think Chris Paul gives legitimacy to the
Spurs in a way they haven't had.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
He speeds up the clock.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, you know, when he went to Phoenix, he helped
them become more legitimate as a franchise is an organization.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
People forget, you know, maybe they don't, but Devin Booker's tremendous.
They were a mess before Chris Paul.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
So so why can't he get San Antonio to forty
wins next year?
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I think he probably will, and you know he at
this point it's been established health will be a concern
past the All Star break. But that's probably the best
guy in the league and maybe the best guy for Wimby.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
He's man. I mean, let Lob City. I mean, he
can get him six six points to night, eight points
to night on Lobbs alone. I mean, DeAndre Jordan put
up some numbers, you know, and DeAndre is a good player,
but a pretty limited offensive guy, and all of a
sudden he had a little bit of juice, a little
bit of energy with Chris Paul see.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I also think this accelerates winmbin Yama because you playing
with a guy who's so good in the pick and
roll that he's gonna learn things just by by proxy
that maybe he wouldn't have before.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
I think it's a it's a great move, even even
though it's a one year.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah. Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line news. Klaine Johnson
of the Philadelphia Eagles will be joining us last hour,
So team USA and Canada tonight. That's an interesting one. Yeah,
Canada's had a nice little run. They're the NBA now
without staph kd and Lebron making a late playoff push,
(41:33):
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Seven of the last ten Super Bowl champs have been AFC.
Last year AFC versus NFC, AFC won forty six and
lost thirty four. The NFL, choosing its first game of
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the season, chose the Chiefs and the Ravens AFC. So
it does feel like here at Fox we primarily have NFC.
It feels like it is tilted toward an AFC sport
over the last five or six years. A lot of
that is the bad teams had high draft picks and
a lot of them hit on quarterbacks. Houston, Cincinnati with Burrough.
(01:32):
You know, Kansas City wasn't a bad team. Alex Smith
got him to the playoffs. But you have a lot
of AFC teams that were bad or took a swing
on a quarterback and they all hit Jacksonville justin Herbert
to the Chargers, who now has Jim Harbad, Trevor Lawrence, CJ.
Stroud was surprisingly good right out of the shoot. So
in the NFC for years and years didn't have a
(01:54):
real bottom. You know, you'd have Washington underachieving Lions for
years and years. But AFC just they've hitting a lot
of quarterbacks. And this is a coach quarterback league. If
you have the coach and the quarterback, you can have
flaws everywhere as long as you're not horrific on the
offensive line and your quarterback's not under siege on most snaps.
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And so I think I do feel like the NFC
is drawing closer to the AFC in the coaching quarterback combination,
but it's still AFC over NFC my top ten. If
I gave you a top ten AFC NFC quarterback combination,
the first one's an easy one. That's Andy Reid and
(02:36):
Patrick Mahomes highest win percentage by any quarterback coach combo
in the Super Bowl era. That's an easy one. He's
the great play designer, a clever play caller, and Mahomes
right now is the most gifted quarterback potentially ever but
certainly playing right now. Number two, I'd go McVeigh and
Matt Stafford. I think Matt Stafford, because of his years
(02:57):
in Detroit, was overlooked a next to Mahomes, maybe the
best arm talent in the league. Side arm does everything
but throw it left handed, big, over the top arm.
I think McVeigh maybe the smartest coach period in the sport.
I'd put him at two. I'd go John Harbaugh and
Lamar Jackson. Three. Bottom line is they've won ten plus
(03:18):
games and reach the playoffs in five or six years. Listen,
Lamar is different and you're gonna have a different offense
with him. But if you can win seventy five percent
of your games, especially in the AFC North to be
that good perpetually. I'd put them third. I'd put Jim
Harbaugh and Justin Herbert forth. Now a little bit of
that is a projection. I think Herbert's a remarkable talent,
(03:41):
and there's an argument to be made college and pro
Jim Harbaugh is the best coach on the planet, so
I would put them fourth. In the coach quarterback combo.
I would put Sean McDermott Josh Allen fifth, and I
think we all know Josh is probably even more so
than Mahomes just physically on a different planet, size, speed,
(04:02):
arm strength. There's just nothing like Josh Allen in the world,
including Mahomes. I think the misgivings we have sometimes defensive
coaches in big playoff games against offensive coaches we worry about.
But they've got four straight division titles. They're obviously a
very good football organization. So I would say four of
the top five are AFC. Okay, so that right off
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the top. Once again, it's the AFC. You can argue
about the order after Reid and Mahomes. Certainly I would
go to the next five, and I start with another
AFC team, Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. Now, listen, Bengals
have reached at least the AFC Championship in any year
Joe Burrow's been healthy. Now, I do believe he is
(04:45):
one injury away from real adult conversations on looking to
draft another quarterback at some point, maybe not a first
round pick. But now this is his first year without
offensive coordinator Brian Callahan, who's the Titans head coach, so
that'll be a little interesting. Then starting at number seven,
I feel like the NFC teams are on the come.
(05:05):
Matt Lafleur, Jordan Love would be number seven. I'd like
to see a little bit more of Jordan Love. But
the last of the year, the kid was on fire,
and I'll give Matt Lafleur a lot of credit. When
Aaron Rodgers was there, I felt like it was Aaron's
offense and Aaron's team. I thought last year Matt Lafleur
could really flex. I thought he was really clever. I
loved his game plans, I loved his alterations at half.
(05:28):
I thought Matt Lafluur really established himself as a top
five six coach in the league. Number eight Mike McCarthy
and Dak Prescott Listen, They've won twelve games each of
the last three seasons. Nobody else in the league has
done that. McCarthy's a good, solid coach. Dakxa Soligan that
you can argue they're both B plus, but that gives
you number eight in the NFL. We just we want
(05:49):
more in January. Number nine, I'd probably go to and
Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniels sort of Kyle Shanahan West very
clever when two is healthy. There's an argument this is
the breeze Sean Payton relationship too, is accurate. Do I
think he can go up in cold weather to Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City, Cincinnati if it's thirteen degrees in windy Do
(06:11):
I think he can go toe to toe with a
Mahomes or a Josh Allen. No, I do not, But
you don't have to play those guys much. Cross your
fingers the weather goes your way. Number ten, I'd do
Jared Goff and Dan Campbell. I think Dan Campbell, in
my opinion, can be a little bit too much led
by emotion Sometimes. I don't love all of Dan Campbell's
situational coaching. Highly emotional guy. I wish he was a
(06:35):
bit more restrained. But I've been saying this about Jared
Goff for years. Throws one of the prettiest balls in
the league. The Lions have winning records in back to
back years. If I had to go eleven, I'd go
Shanahan and Brock pretty so I could say the bottom
six through eleven, there's a lot more NFC representation, But
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I still think by and large, the AFC at the
top six of the top ten quarterback coaching combinations, We're
not going to argue with Reid and Mahomes. Everything after
that you can argue about. And with that, Dion Dawkins
three Pro Bowls, highest credded Buffalo Bill offensive lineman every year.
(07:16):
He's been there seven seasons, all of the Bills in
Buffalo six time playoff for former. Good to see you again,
my friend. Nice to have you in. You know, it's
interesting because I always said this about Phil Mickelson because
he played in the era of Tiger Woods. You just
don't understand how good Phil Mickelson was. It's the same
with a Kei molajja on. If there's no Michael Jordan,
(07:38):
the keeam could have four titles. I saw him go
toe to toa shack and at times really give shack
a problem. So you guys are just happened to be
in the era of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, and
you feel like sometimes you want to say, hey, everybody,
we're winning like ten games a year. We're good over here.
That you get you sometimes get criticized because you're just
(07:59):
not beating it. Maybe the best coach quarterback combination in
the history of the sport.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think, uh, in the era that we're in now,
you know, like there's a lot of great players all
over this this league. You know, it's an offensive league now,
it's a passing league, it's an offensive league, it's a
quarterback driven league, and I think there's a lot of
great players all around. You know, like, yes, we are
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thankful to be playing in the time that we're playing
because we're playing with some of these some of these
guys that are that are putting up numbers that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We haven't seen. And the money is good, and the
money is great.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
The money is great when it's great, and then it changes,
and then it's great, and then it changes then it's great.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know. So yeah, yeah, my take on Stefan Diggs
was it was time loved him. I said this about
Klay Thompson. There's time, it's pro sports, there's salary caps. Yeah.
And I also think key On Campbell's great. And I
also think by getting the kid out of Utah the
tight end with Dawson, Knox, Cook, Josh, I think you're fine.
I don't think that's going to be the issue. I
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think you'll be fine. There was a lot made about
the drama. I like Steffan, but I did think it
got verbal. You'd see some stuff where like he was
unhappy when you heard he was moving on. What was
your take?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Okay, you know it was it was it was more
so like like more so just just.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
A deep breath.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It was like it was just like all right, you know,
like Steph, Steph was a great teammate, Like Steph, Steph
is probably like one of the best teammates that that
I've had, you know, like seeing how he prepares for
a game, how he treats his teammates, how he executes
his passion. And I think what the world mistakes of
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what they're calling drama, it's just the passion that he
has for the sport. Like I don't expect anybody to
be happy with losing, like and we're all not frantic,
but like we're we're all at that height of emotions,
Like it's an emotional sport, and Steph is an emotional
guy for the things that he loves and football is
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one of those things.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And uh, I think we're like, like we're gonna miss him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
We love him, and uh if it was time and
Brandon Bean has all those keys, like we don't control
any of that, you know, I was sad to see
him go, but I'm happy to see him smile. And uh,
you know, he's smiling and he'll be a great player
wherever and he goes. And I'm just glad that, you know,
like we got to take a shot at it with Steph,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, you know it's interesting. Dean Dawkins Bill's offensive lineman,
best highest graded lineman Buffalo's had all years. He's been
there for years, I said, I criticized Sean mcjordai's said, Shawan,
I watched Sean McVeigh rebuild his ole line in one year.
I watched Andy Reid do it in one year. I'm like,
outside of the Dawkins guy, I need that offensive line
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in that run game to be better and now you've
got Cook. Was it a fair criticism guys like me
saying I'm watching these offensive coaches fix that thing fast?
Did feel like it took him about fought. Now I
do field. Last year, you guys, pass protection was excellent, Yes, excellent.
In fact, there's a stat here you allowed the few
a sacks in the league. And I did think you're
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you found your running back. He's an a for sure.
Was the criticism fair for years? That can we give
Josh little help up front with the run game? Was
that a fair criticism?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I mean it's it's always fair because we went
We've had so many changes every single year.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We've had so many changes.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And like I tell people when I talk about it,
is I play left a left tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I'm blessed. I'm I'm good at what I do.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And I've had a different guard every single year since
I've been in the NFL. I've been in the league
for eight years, and I've had a different guard every.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Single year that I have been in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We've had a center that just went to the Jaguars,
which is.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Mitch but he's been there good play.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And then our right guard and our right tackle has
switched off and on, so we've had a different piece
of movements ever since we've got there. And I honestly
want to tip my hat to Josh because he's been
scrambling and doing his thing with the group that you know,
finds the brotherhood during camp and OTA's and to get
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the season done and last year, like we were fully
healthy the entire year, and I'm thankful for it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I want you to tell our audience this because they
may not understand this that I've said before, like the
Jets are a great example. You got old guys, you
got a rookie, you got new guys in the preseason.
The old guys don't take snaps anymore during games. So
forget that that Jets old. They're gonna be as good
as their own line. I don't care about the defense.
I don't care about Aaron. There's a lot of stuff.
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They got a lot of movement. I like Tyron Smith's
gonna give you about fourteen games. I like the rookie.
He's never taken an NFL snap. It's a whole different
ballgame than college. So tell the people about the relationship
and a new guard, because I think the fans just say, hey,
you're on an island. Just protect the quarterback, right. What
why it matters, Yeah, to have a new guard. Why
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is that symmetry so important?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, because uh, like and I and I really appreciate
that because a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
But like when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Guard, and I don't know because I don't play guard,
but when you're playing guard, the guard controls the the
I guess forward and back of the pocket. If the
pocket is getting pushed back vertically back, that means that
the guards are not doing what they're supposed to do,
which is holding the line. The tackles are supposed to
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keep the with We're supposed to keep everything away while
the guards keep everything forward. So over time, like you know,
the like the quarterback sees like like, Okay, this guy
is a little bit less stronger than this guy. I know,
if we're playing against a heavier or lighter or faster line,
I know that I could just step to my right
just a little bit to get this pass off. Or
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I know, you know, Dion is going to keep this
guy as wide as possible. So if I need to drift,
I need to drift. I could drift to my left
and to get the ball out, so the guards that
shift in and out. It takes reps, reps over reps
over reps during camp, during OTA's, during live reps for
the quarterback to actually understand what type of player he has.
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And then with seeing us in front of different type
of competition, Like we got guys like like like on
the Chiefs, like Jones, right, Like we know that, all right,
Jones is one of those guys like we have to.
Josh knows that I can be over here just a
half a second more than this side, and I know
that Dion is going to do this or chop a
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guy down, or Spencer is going to do do that.
So the quarterback knows where he can puzzle his passes him. Yeah,
and Josh's had to do do what Josh does. And
he's been guessing, but not really guessing, but trying to
figure out who his guys really are over a duration
of a season because it takes the full season to
really understand.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I always feel like it's an advantage to be a
really good offensive lineman in division games, yeah, because most
pass rushers, even the good ones, either have a tell
or two moves right, And so when you play a
guy twice. The advantage is to you, not to him,
for sure, right, and I've.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Always so as that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Division games are an advantage to the offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, it is a full advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
But if you take it as oh, I got his card,
then it could mess you up. But yes, like when
you play the same guy over and over and over,
you kind of know exactly who he is.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So tell me a good guy that's out. You don't
have to play him anymore. Maybe you're retired, retired guy,
but a guy that you knew, you played enough that
you kind of knew you had a sense of what
he was. Rookies, you're just better than I don't worry
about rookies. But I'm talking about a guy that you
played or maybe don't play. Maybe he's in the NFC
now that you had some success.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Maybe maybe like a guy like Robert win right, Like
a guy like Robert Quinn, like a great player, but
once you play him over and over, like he was
with the Dolphins when I was really young, and he
was really good at that jump chop move, and you know,
over repetition you could kind of time it and figure
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it out, almost like a boxing match. But like You're
just jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at it, and you
can time what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And that's where the benefit was to a younger player.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Because you play him once and then you're like, all right,
you already know what this older vet is going to
give you every single play and it kind of is
definitely to our eventage.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Have there been players that have surprised you on the edge,
Oh yeah, and you're like, oh boy, have you ever
had a game when you feel like you're bailing water
for a quarter?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah? Like bailing water.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Look, I am very confident in my game as of
right now. I think and I know that I'm, if
not the best left tackle, I'm the best left tackle
in the NFL. And my favorite player that I play
against is Trey from the Bengals, Trey Henderson. He is
one of the best players that I think just mentally,
physically and just what he does on the football. He
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comes out there and he plays with no gloves on.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's x Crosby field.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That is that is exactly that is.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That is one of those weird tells that when you
come out on the football field and you see a
player and you're looking at him on snap one, you're like,
all right, his helmet is tied up, he has his
shoes all right, swag check. Okay, let's see what type
of player is. And then you look at his hands
and his hands. He has no gloves on. And for
a player that plays and with his hands all game like,
that means that you're just a little a little bit like,
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all right, he's a real football player. And then he
comes and he hits you every single play, boom boom
boom boom boom. Every rep, every play, he's coming at you.
And that tells you that you have to be on
your p's and q's no matter what. But and and
Miles Garrett, like Miles Garrett absolute tip my hat.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He's just one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He's one of those guys that that I know that look,
I respect you on and off of the field, and
I know the type of player that you are, and
he brings it every single rep.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So, yes, there's multiple players.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
These guys on the defensive fensive side are getting more
freakish every single day.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I always respect it. I always feel like a great
offensive lineman is an intellect. At some point, you're an intellect.
You have to see the game before it happens. I
always think a great pass rusher he's got a half
screw for sure. He's blowing stuff up like the great
pass rushers, there's just a different click to them.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Are are our most trash talkers, Max Max Crosby is
a trash talker.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Most most of those guys are trash talker.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That's right, that's part of their DNA.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, it's just it's just what uh, it's what they do.
They try to get into the offensive lineman's head. But uh,
they are trash talkers, you know. And uh, Vaughn is Vaughn,
which is my teammate.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Now what I'm thankful for.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Vaughan is one of those funny trash talkers and he
might catch you like but like off guard, like like
what's you today?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But he's talking. He's talking smack.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So you're you're protecting And I say this with all
respect to Mahomes. You're protecting the most physically gifted quarterback
I've ever show. There's nothing different for sure. He also
is in the second smallest market in Buffalo, and I
think to myself, you know, you guys wear helmets, so
you know, fans know who you are, but you can
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hide a little. For Josh Allen to be in Buffalo,
it's like farvar Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Do you
ever think he feels a bit overwhelmed, like can't go
to the grocery store kind of thing you ever find?
I think to myself. I mean in New York, he'd
be mobbed in Buffalo. How does he go to He doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Josh doesn't you know, he's Josh Josh. He stays away,
you know, out of respect of the little bit of
time that he has because he spends all day at
the facility, so when he's not in the building, he
can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Like dinners are usually the best because.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We go in one way and out the next, and
the people that are in charge there they take great
care of us.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Where we can just sneak in and sneak out.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But Josh, Josh is at the highest of the highest,
like mobs will really mob and it's.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Like a real mob.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh yeah, how does he lead? Does he ever bark?
I mean, does Josh ever bark? I mean, is he
ever allowed? I mean, like you he didn't have to,
but is he is he ever gotten afty? A little bit?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Absolutely Josh.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Josh is like one of those guys that that will
do what it takes at that moment.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And uh, he's definitely a barker when that time comes.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And I've actually seen the bark a lot more this
OCA is where he's been like very very like verbal
because our team is different, like it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
There's not some young dudes on that.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We got some young dudes that like, you know, like
when they come in, like they see a little bit
of of of success and it could change. So Josh
is doing exactly what and what he should.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So you guys let go of a couple of really
good veterans, not only good players, like leader guys. So
it feels like to me, it's like you and Josh
are kind of like leaders. Now, Yeah, are you comfortable?
Are you comfortable barking? Are you comfortable being that guy?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, I've I've always barked, you know, like I'm I'm
always want to shoot it straight, like I don't like,
I don't hide. I live in a vulnerable state and
I tell it the way that it should. And I've
wore the captain c on my chest for three years
and it's it's a It's a blessing to even be
in that realm of looked at as that. So I
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think that when you're in a position to run a
football team, you have to bark, and you have to
know who you can bark too, because everybody doesn't take
barking the right way. So you have to learn what
type of bark to use for which type of player.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
That's interesting, like.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like, I don't know Keon fully yet because he's new.
I can't just be like Keon, let's go. I don't
know yet, So I'm gonna see in a couple practices
and see what type of kid he is when he
gets hit, and I'm gonna see and then if he
can take it, then he'll he'll definitely get the bars.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Buffalo's weather can be a little chilly. Yeah, you know,
Keon Kolem is a Florida kid. I always think it's
you know, you're a Temple guy. So do you do
you tell some of those Florida Texas guys when they
come up, You're like, okay, now, our summer it's about twelve.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Days, maybe ten maybe ten days, but it gets cold quick.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Do you do you do you give him a heads up?
Like you better be ready because it's brand of football
up here. There are no finesse. Buffalo build teams for sure.
You tell him that, no problem.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's it's more so like look kid, I mean they
always say like how do you do it?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Like how do you do it?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I always say, the blessing of it is we
could afford jackets, you know, like you could afford a
nice jacket. So get you a nice jacket, make sure
you start your car in the morning, and get your
butt to practice.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, my wife used to have to do on some
pr work around the country and she always said Buffalo
had the nicest people of anywhere.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
But they do, and I will I will back that
Buffalo does have have some great people.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know that they have. They're bad too, like bo has.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
You know they're bad, but you know, for the most part, Buffalo,
Buffalo's people.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Are are the best.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean a lot to the community.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
And they love us.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And you know, like I played at Temple, which it
wasn't Alabama, so I didn't really have that overall feel
of what being truly appreciated as an athlete was until
I got to the Bills and when I got there,
it was like the highest of the highest. So it's
a it's a beautiful feeling to have a neighborhood and
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a community. Really, you know, I key worship the Bills
because you know.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's interesting Brady goes. Part of the Brady story, Tom
Brady story is he was overlooked. So you're one of
the top two or three left tackles in the entire sport.
It's the second most valuable position after quarterback. And you
go to Temple. Does it still pish you off? Do
you still think yourself? Oh, like when you see a
pass rusher from Ohio State, do you think bring it?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I have the biggest tip on my shoulder and I
take it with the most pride that I'm playing against
guys that went to these big schools and have all
these accolades, and I'm and I'm doing my job.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know where they go to school for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You know, every guy we look at the depth chart
top to bottom size what round they got drafted. They're
forty times their weight, their their their bench press and
two twenty five their three con drill all of it.
I look at every single thing about the player. But no,
I am I'm thankful that I went to because Temple
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continued to mold me to have that dog. And uh,
when I'm off of the field, I'm very calm.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I'm I'm calm but chaotic, but I'm calm.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And then when I play, it's it's a whole different
ball game. Thank and thankful, tuiz and and and cultural.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Max Crosby is one of my favorite people. He is
and a part of why I like him is he's
just wired differently. How many times have you faced him? Twice?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I think it was twice.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think it was twice, but once when Max Crosby
was Max Crosby like you know, like when you like
now Max Crosby is is is Max Crosby Like he's flowing,
like he's he's at the best of his game and
he's getting better.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But you faced him when he was a kid younger.
Now you overlooked my rational school.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Still and still overlooked still.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
But it's okay because I'm winning in the shadows and
then that'll change and when it changes.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
But heyear in year eight and still great.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know Dion Dawkins, who has been the highest graded
offensive linemanth the Buffalo Bills every year he's been there.
It's always good senior man, it's a beautiful What are
you doing out west?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I train and I drive drift cars. Man, I'm I'm
big and drifting.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now what does that mean? That is drift?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
So let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So, like you know what NASCAR is, you know what
feeling drifting is? Where you drive sideways. It's literally driving
sideways and like but like you might think that like
you're going one hundred miles per hour, You're literally going
like maybe forty fifty sixty?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
How where do you do this?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
At the big Indian drift pit in uh? In Buffalo?
It's a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Was that a course at Temple? When did you get
into that? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I'm telling Buffalo just keeps unveiling different parts of Buffalo,
Like I didn't even know that Buffalo has this stuff.
And it's just like hey, damn, Like you want to
go drifting? Like Tony said, Dion, do you want to
go drifting? I was like, I don't know what drifting is.
And I go out there and I get in the
drift car and Eric just takes me on a spin
and I fell in love.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Like it was the same thrill of being.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
In the game because you're in control and you have
to fight in the car while spinning sideways. And then
two days later, I have my own car and I
was drifting my own car.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Two days later, they drove down there, picked the car
up and did their thing.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I do I And it's actually it's starting to pop
a little bit. It looks really really scary. Like I
guess the question would be, when you're in there, are
you more nervous than anything else?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
So no, And I'm gonna explain why I because it's
because like you have to think right, Like when you're
in a car and you're going two hundred miles per
hour straight with nobody really around you, when you're drifting
your this close to the car and that you're racing against.
So a little bump, a little top, it's not about
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to make the car do all this crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
It's just gonna spin it out and then you just
idle out.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Like the cars never flip, They never do all this
weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
The bumper might pop off, but the car will then stop.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And then it's over it.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, So it's you know.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You got a full cage, you got right, but you're
not as far apart from the car.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
You're closer.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm not pulling into Starbucks doing drifting that yeah, that
is crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Makes the car.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, well, I'm a monster athlete, so I got monster
that that's helping me with with all of the.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Ins and out.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And then I have Eric and Eric's crew which is
now in my crew in Buffalo, that are tuning in
and tweaking my engine and doing all the cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
There's a part of America things are happening in this Well.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's so cool, man, I'm telling you you would love it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
What would it take for Colin All to do is
just come out.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I'm gonna drift fifty five miles an hour on the
I five going home today.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That'll be That's probably more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Could see anybody love brother.
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Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was gone for a couple of weeks, and you
know some NBA free agency, and you know like Klay Thompson,
you know he could make the MAVs a little better,
probably their fourth best player at this point third or
fourth best player. I thought there were two moves that
really stood out to me. Won again, won a loss.
I thought Isaiah Harten seen for the Knicks going to
Oklahoma City. Obviously he's a perfect fit for Oka, see
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they need size, rebounding, toughness. But I thought it was
a real loss for the Knicks. I love the McHale
Bridges move, but losing him feels punitive, like they four
of their best players are often tiny guards. They averaged
eight points more a game when Isaiah Hartenstein was on
the floor of the last two years, they led the
NBA regular season and postseason in offensive rebounds, in offensive rebounding.
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That's because of him. I thought he was a perfect fit.
He was a relentless player, he was physical, he was tough.
I thought he was a huge, huge loss for the
I thought Paul George nine straight years averaging twenty a game,
elite defender is a huge, huge get for Philadelphia. You know,
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Carmelo Anthony was a better high school player. He was
a prodigy and at Syracuse. But I would say Carmelo
Anthony wouldn't win you a series like Paul George would.
Carmelo eight playoff series in his career. Three excuse me,
He's won three playoff series in his career. George has
won eight playoff series in his career. Paul George is
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a better defender, He's in better shape. His game isn't
as pretty as a Carmelo Anthony, It's not as aesthetically pleasing.
Paul George is a great player and again a two
way player who's hit a ton of big shots in
big games. I don't know what the Clippers are doing,
but I know that when Paul George goes to MBID
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and Tyrese Maxey in the Sending Star, I felt like, oh,
that could challenge If m beats healthy, they could challenge
the Celtics. I felt that the Knicks could until they
lost Isaiah Hartenstein and then I thought, go big get
for Okac. They need this size and toughness. So those
are the two moves that really really stuck out to me.
(31:16):
By the way, I like Michale Bridges a lot. I
think he's a great fit for the Knicks. But Julius Randall,
now he'll be a you know, it'll be a smaller lineup,
really small lineup. Some of the time I thought that
that was a bad. That was a bad moment for
the next Now people can say, well, you know he
was an eight to eight guy, eight points a rebound.
You can't pay him a fortune. I think when you
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get to the end of the year, you'll understand stand
why you had to pay him. That one hurt for
the Knicks' that's a really good player. But that's the
downside is that he got a lot of TV exposure.
He was such a great fit. He may not be
as crucial for Okac as he was for the Knicks,
but we looked this morning. They averaged eight more points
a game when he plays the last two seasons, then
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when he doesn't and he only averages eight points. But
that tells you the fit with the Knicks for him.
All right, back in a second to wrap it up,
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Yee Lane Johnson in Philadelphia. Eagles joining us last hour.
Here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the
Herdline News Colin.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The Bills will look to replace the loss of Stefan
Diggs and Gabe Davis after moving on from them this offseason.
Buffalo drafted Keon Coleman out of Florida State early in
the second round, and the rookie said he's not feeling
any additional pressure to replace them, adding quote, all I
gotta do is come in be myself, be who I'm
supposed to be. Because I'm not Gabe, I'm not Steph.
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I'm just Keon Colin. I am a massive fan of
Keon Coleman. I've had scouts executives tell me he's got
Keenan Allen and Mike Evans' type of ability. This is
six ' four putt returner, short area of quickness. People
criticize him for running a four to six. He ran
over twenty miles per hour in the gauntlet at the Combine.
That's the best time over the last two years. Played
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football and basketball at Michigan State before going to the Knowles.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
This is a freak athlete.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
He's gonna make contested catches and he often makes this
spectacular look regular in ordinary. He's dynamic, and I think
he's gonna be an instant day one, big time contributor
to Josh Allen in the Buffalo offense.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Well, last couple of years, they've nailed it on a
tight end, they've nailed it on a running back, so
they do feel like they have the requisite weapons. And
by the way, there's two positions in this league, maybe three,
where you can come in and rookie and be very
good running back, wide receiver and corner. A lot of
that's instinct. You're either you've got it or you don't.
You're on an island. As a corner you can cover,
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you can Sauce Gardner was great. Patrick Shirtan was great
first game in the NFL. Same at wide receiver. I mean,
Tank Dell walks into the league. You'd never watched them
play in college. He's great. Puka Nakua unbelievable. So there
are other positions, even a great college left tackle. There's
like a growth period quarterback, rush end. Sometimes it takes
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a year any any o line position. Tight Ends tend
to be slow developers because you don't have to block
in college like you do in the NFL. There are
positions linebacker, you can be a little over your skis.
If you can play wide receiver, you could have seventy
five eighty catches and a half dozen touchdowns. If you
have a Josh Allen and you're a deep threat, you
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can be just fine day one.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
And the confidence. I love the confidence.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You know the Raiders will hope that one of Aidan
O'Connell or Gardner Minshew will give the team stability under
center after missing out.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I'm Michael PENNOCKX junior and Jay and Daniels in the draft.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
In an appearance on Speak yesterday, DeVante Adams was asked
who he wants throwing him the football.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
I want whoever's gonna look the best, you know, when
it's time to win, is live bullets. So at the
end of the day, I don't have a preference other
than the fact that I want somebody that's confident, ready
to go when it's time to do it.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
So whoever that is, that's who I want throwing the ball.
I think right now, if I had to.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Say, I think Aiden has the job because you know,
obviously he was here before and that's the way that
it was was running with the ones more and until
Varnder comes in and you know, takes the job away
from him.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Is I think it is agent's job right now.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, if that's your starter in the AFC, you know
you're gonna be drafting number one, two or three. The
good news for the Raiders is they got a lot
of components. They hopefully have the right coach. My take
is they gotta raft. They'll be drafting New York Giants,
New England Patriots who don't need a quarterback, I would imagine,
and the Raiders. Cross your fingers. If you're a Titan fan,
(36:30):
I think they'll be okay, But I mean the Raiders
are going to be drafting way up the board next year.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I mean I like Antonio Pierce, but there's no doubt
they were interested in Pennis, Jaden Daniels and Listen. Gardner
Minshew's good in two or three games stretches, but he's
never been a starter for an entire season. Amil connell
had some moment slaps here a couple, but if you're
in the AFC West against bone Nicks, potentially Justin Herbert
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and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Mahomes, ae O'Connell doesn't move particularly well. And let's be honest,
Gardner Minshew was, Shane Steikin looked great, ok. Jalen Hurts was,
Shane Steikin was an MVP candidate, So the coach matters.
Now he's getting a defensive coach. So Gardner Minshew's not
going to put up last year Gardner Minshew numbers.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
I will say that Adams did recently admit that Aaron
Rodgers has been in his ear recruiting him to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
I mean, we've been talking about that. It feels like
for the last.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Year Aaron's got to worry about that whole line it's
not a receiver issue. They got an old line issue.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Okay, to Team USA basketball, where we tip off exhibition
against I should say ahead of the Olympics against Canada
tonight on FS one. Last summer, Canada defeated the US
and the FEEBA World Cup bronze medal game, but we
didn't have Steph for Lebron. Dylan Brooks has never sied away,
as you know, for a little trash talk and addressed
the remat saying there's no USA players that spoke up
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after the bronze medal game lost and wanted to play
our team. Our time was last year and now it's
our time for this year. But instead of getting bronze,
we want the gold Colin expectations for Team USA tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well, if Team USA is going to lose a game,
this would be the team that could beat them. I
don't think they will beat them, but Canada, between their
basketball and their soccer, are on a nice little run here.
But this is a really interesting Team USA because you
have these apparently Lebron's been great. You've got these legendary,
great older players, and then you've got these players like
(38:29):
Aunt Edwards who wanted me to go to guys, So
I actually think from an overall roster standpoint, it's a
pretty interesting team.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
SGA Jamal Murray on Canada.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
And then, by the way, we were talking about Derek
White earlier a few minutes ago. Jalen Brown, I don't
know if you saw this, Colin tweeted out three emojis
like looking and what that tells me, and what the
speculation is is that maybe he wasn't super happy not
to be asked to join Team USA. He said in
October he would be honored, and to have Derek White
(39:01):
as teammate is a little.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Bit of friction there. Potentially you said Derek whiteod be great.
Jalen Brown is like a better version. He can do
all the different things.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, jaallens a better player. That's interesting, right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Fourth story, lass story.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I should say the Warriors moved on from Chris Paul
this offseason and instead of ring chasing CP three, ended
up signing a one year deal to play with Wimby
and the Spurs. And his introductory press conference, Chris Paul
talked about how playing time was the biggest factor in
his decision.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
I love nothing more than the opportunity to play and
contribute and.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Hope. My family is everything.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
My wife is here, my kids are back in LA
and that's where they will be during the season. And
I love basketball so much that I could be close
to home. But if I'm not playing, I'm not happy.
We saw this opportunity, even though it had put me
away from my family. My family knows me better than anybody,
and they know that. You know, I just want to play.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, Colin, I think Chris Paul gives legitimacy to the
Spurs in a way they haven't had.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
He speeds up the clock.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, you know, when he went to Phoenix, he helped
them become more legitimate as a franchise is an organization.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
People forget, you know, maybe they don't, but Devin Booker's tremendous.
They were a mess before Chris Paul.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
So so why can't he get San Antonio to forty
wins next year?
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I think he probably will, and you know he at
this point it's been established health will be a concern
past the All Star break. But that's probably the best
guy in the league and maybe the best guy for Wimby.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
He's man. I mean, let Lob City. I mean, he
can get him six six points to night, eight points
to night on Lobbs alone. I mean, DeAndre Jordan put
up some numbers, you know, and DeAndre is a good player,
but a pretty limited offensive guy, and all of a
sudden he had a little bit of juice, a little
bit of energy with Chris Paul see.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I also think this accelerates winmbin Yama because you playing
with a guy who's so good in the pick and
roll that he's gonna learn things just by by proxy
that maybe he wouldn't have before.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
I think it's a it's a great move, even even
though it's a one year.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah. Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line news. Klaine Johnson
of the Philadelphia Eagles will be joining us last hour,
So team USA and Canada tonight. That's an interesting one. Yeah,
Canada's had a nice little run. They're the NBA now
without staph kd and Lebron making a late playoff push,
(41:33):
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