July 15, 2024 • 42 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong...with plenty of both! Thoughts on Jaylen Brown not being on the US Men's team, andhow Anthony Davis has drastically changed (for the better).
Guest: Dianna Russini
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is a Monday run FS two. By the way, little
Canada Australia game basketball now USA Australia, my bad. I
just watching the highlights. Jason Tatum had a nice dune
not to send you to another channel, but I.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Just you don't need to see that blood bat USA
already have.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I was watching some of the highlights.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Australia for some reason playing so neat.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
By the way, Canada is having a run soccer basketball. Indeed,
our friendly neighbors to the north are having a run. Man,
they got good coaching some young young stars.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Did you see Serbia beat France. Jokid's basically took down
women Yamin company. He soiled out and Serbia is still
won the game. Done you. Olympic men's basketball is gonna
be fire I.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Can't wait so well, women, if Kaitlyn Clark plays the fact, yes,
let's just just put her on the team.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Get her off the team.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I mean last week you weren't here, but we were
talking about the men's team. And I've said this about
Caitlyn Clark, whether she earns it or not. When you
talk about Olympic men's and women's basketball teams, the first
five or six players are the best. You know, your
Steph Curry's and your aunts, and your Jason Tatum's. The
middle down has always been political. Michael Jordan didn't want
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Isaia on the team. He didn't get on the team.
You got a Nike Jalen Brown issue. Diana Tarassi is
a great player, she's been there before. Get Caitlyn Clark
on the team. They're gonna win the gold. They always
win the gold. Olympics World Cups. Where you put World Cups,
where you put Olympics, Olympic men's and women's basketball teams.
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There's always been a political component to it. Get Caitlin
Clark triple your television ratings. She's Taylor Swift in sneakers.
Get her on the team. It's good for women's basketball.
She's probably gonna play very limited numbers. But for the record,
she was one and eight to start because of the schedule.
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But have you noticed in the last like ten games
she's taking over games.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Imagine a college kid's growing up in the pros and
it taken longer than a minute. But I'll say this
on on the US men's side, like this whole Jalen
Brown Derek White thing is bizarre. I mean, Jalen Rose
a finals MVP, three of his teammates are on the
Olympic team, and he's not what the hell is that about?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then he claims it's a cause a Nike well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Swoosh related and I'm not. I'm not picking on Nike.
I was in Portland over the weekend. But this stuff's
very political. Have you ever you ever see that movie Air?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
That was awesome again.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've seen it three times, really great. I like it,
but it's okay. The shoe wars are very political. Business
is politics, politics is sports. Sports is both business and politics.
We all know that, but the average fan doesn't realize that.
And when they see the finals MVP and Eastern Conference
Finals MVP snubbed and he puts out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The emoji with the monocle, and he's like, what is
this about. Come on, that's not a good look for
the league, Colin, I mean you don't think so well.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I just think it's it illustrates the reality of Olympic
men's and women's basketball. Get Caitlyn on the team. Here
we go, Colin right, Colin wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In a Monday where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Let's start with this. Caitlyn Clark ten points in the fourth.
We had said, once her schedule lightens up, she's going
to be Andrew Luck. She is going to take a
bad roster to playoff level sports. And she's been terrific.
She's averaging seventeen and eight. Actually, a couple of her
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teammates now she is elevated. They play better defense. She
leaves the league in assists, she's third and three pointers made.
The league did her no favors with the first seven
or eight games against New York and Connecticut. Caitlin Clark,
she's good and take advance. This is your Connor McGregor
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to the UFC moment, Bryce Harper to baseball, get her
on television as much as you can. Where Colin was wrong,
the Clippers let Paul George go I still do not
get it. Do you realize he shot forty one percent
on three point shooting. He's a little bit like a
poor man's Jason Tatum out West, and they let him go,
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so they have now James Harden and Kawhi Leonard, who's
never available. I still don't get it. I think he's
an elite wing defender. He's an elite wing three point shooter.
The whole league could use Paul George. The whole league
could use Paul George the Clippers hard.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Pass where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do you know? NFL executives and coaches and scouts
named Jared Goff the second best quarterback in the NFC.
I never get the GoF slander, folks. He threw for
fifty four hundred yards last year and had a higher
passer rating than Patrick Mahomes. I know he doesn't run around.
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He's the last of the true young pocket quarterback. For
the record, CJ. Stroud doesn't run around either much. This
league is won from the pocket. Scouts get it. The
critics don't Goff. After Stafford named best NFC.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Quarterback, where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Greg Berhalter won sixty nine percent of his games as
a United States men's national team coach and they axed him.
He got to the round of sixteen at the World
Cup and a draw against England with the second youngest
World Cup team, and they asked him. By the way
I've said, I think there needs to be some house
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cleaning in the US soccer federation. Here's Canada's coach on
if he'd be interested for Greg's job.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I have no interest in the US job, and to
be fair, unless there's a big shift in the organization,
I don't think that I'll ever have interest in that
job in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What is that telling you? It's not a Greg Berhalter thing,
It's a soccer federation thing in this country. Where Colin
was right loved Jalen Brunson from the beginning. I said
he had self awareness. I said, this is a kid
you build around. There's a lot of fake New York stars.
This is the best quarterback in the city. He's a leader,
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he's tough, he embraces it. He just signed a contract
which was very team friendly and with the new CBA,
big advantages for New York to stock that front court.
Jalen Brunson is the most likable NBA player, arguably in
this sport self awareness, leader, toughness, villanova guy. I mean,
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I don't know what you can say about That's what
leadership looks like. A willingness to sign a contract that's
not Jalen friendly, although I make one hundred and fifty
seven million. It's team friendly, city friendly, organization friendly.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Where Colin was right, Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
James, how can you draft him? Have you seen the
summer league attendance? Now, he can't shoot, but he's not
a shooter. He's been a very good defensive player. He's
selling merch, he's packing the summer league games. Listen. It
was a terrible draft. Lebron's carried the sport along with
the Warriors for twenty years. You couldn't do him a solid.
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He's actually, he's actually been a very good defensive player.
He runs the court well, he's a tweeter. He's not
a true point. He can't shoot from the outside like
you'd like a two guard to do. But is he
an NBA rotational player?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The overreaction to him being drafted the kids selling out arenas,
this is a business right.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The Denver Nuggets second straight off season, lost a key
role player. I thought this could be a dynasty after
that title, but KCP to Orlando. Excellent wing defender, excellent
three point shooter, second year in a row. Denver's lost
a really important piece. I don't love it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The Chicago Bulls are trying to give Zach Lavine away
and nobody wants him. The Warriors were offered Zach Levine
for Andrew Wiggins and Chris Paul who they were trying
to get rid of, and the Warriors declined it. He
has become an increasingly inefficient player. He's a highlight reel,
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but his three point shooting's gone backwards. He's not a
winning player. He's just fun to watch on YouTube. His
teams don't win. His three point shootings going backwards. The
Bulls are trying to give him away, and even the
Warriors said pass. Where Colin was right. I said this
couple months ago. If you watch the Phillies play, that's
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the best team in baseball. Tremendous power, starting pitching. They
have eight All Stars times the all time record ties
it and that doesn't include you know, Aaron Nola got snubbed.
Their ace got snubbed. So this is just a tremendous
baseball team. Thirty seven and sixteen at home, another Bryce
Harper team is captivating, looks and feels like a team
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that's gonna get to the World Series. Very rarely does
home field advantage feel impactful in baseball the old Yankee Stadium. Absolutely.
Did you watch the Phillies play at home? You can't.
You can't get your TV remote and go through the channels.
If the Phillies are playing, they jump off the television.
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Best team in baseball just swept the Dodgers last week.
Colin right, Colin wrong. And with that, Diana Russini, her
summer's over. Yeah, I hope you had a good time vacationing.
Do you know, Diana, your summer's over? You know that, right? Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I know.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I'm trying to be the Phillies of TV reporters at
this point. I'm just trying to pop right out onto
the screen here with everything I've been thinking about on
the beach the last few weeks. But Colin, I I've
realized this as I've gotten older, and I'm not sure
if you can relate to this, but relaxing has become
harder and I hope that's just how busy we are,
how online we all can be. But I turned into
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someone that could hang at the Jersey Shore for you know,
seventy eight days not have a worry of care in
the world to I'm like two days in and I'm like, well,
I'd probably go home.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And run in my house or.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Maybe take up gardening and do something. So I'm trying
to get better. But here here's what I had been
working on all summer. I'm launching my new podcast, Scoop City, tomorrow.
It drops the first episode. So I'm really pumped to
join the world. And I've spent my whole career trying
to learn from you. So I hope I make you proud.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
My friend.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, I'm happy for you. You're a hustler, and you
know I love that you love hustlers.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Let's talk Brandon Ayuk. So the Niners draft to There's
two things here. They drafted a couple receivers, Deebo and
Christian McCaffrey. They're very reliant on their physicality. Both players
have a bit of an injury history. Brandon Aiyuk doesn't
as much. The Niners are getting old Trent Williams Kittle
a Yuk and I think to myself, Oh, they need
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Brandon like they need it, like he's one of the
young guys. Deebo's not old, but there's a lot of
injuries there, and I think to myself, they need him.
But I would argue, Brock Purties not a deep ball thrower?
Does he writen twenty seven million? Like, what are you hearing?
Why did they draft two receivers? What's going on with
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Brandon Ayuk and the Niners.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Well, let's just start with the fact that they were
open to taking calls and calling around right before the draft,
possibly open to moving Brandon Ayuk. And yes, that's contractual,
but you know how this works. If a player like
Christian McCaffrey, let's say, had interest from another team, they
are not touching Christian McCaffrey. They love him. The San
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Francisco Fernaninas are obsessed with Christian McCaffrey. So when you
start hearing right around that draft time that players like
Deebo and I were available, we'll call it, that tells
you a little bit. But here we are now, right
just a few days out from the start of their camp.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
And I can tell you, the Niners want to keep them.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
They do, but the price for receivers has gone up
so much that number that's not sitting great now. This
is a team that has always done deals late anyway, right,
remember last year the Nick Bosa situation. Both sides were
telling me the whole time. I remember being on your
show the day the deal was done and walking out
of your studio in New York and I got the
text that the deal was done. I'm like, finally, because
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I went on talking to you telling you they want
to keep this guy.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Of course they do. He's the best defender right now
outside Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
So that being said, they want to keep them. The
price set that the Niners feel was a good number
for him, we're talking that twenty six twenty seven million
dollar range.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Are UK's looking at.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
The market going I'm worth a lot more than that,
And when you look at the forty nine ers, they're
actually in a really good position with him because they
could just let him play out this year and most
likely use the tag on him next year. So Ayuk's
making seventeen now right right around there, the tag next
year twenty two to twenty three mil. So the Niners
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are in a good spot for him. So in terms
of this deal getting done, I see them either working
it out that way or just doing.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A small deal. I think that's how it's going to
get done.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
In terms of Ayuk's interest around the league, there are
definitely a lot of teams paying attention.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know. I said this earlier that Bill Belichick was
all about winning for years and then at the end
it kind of pivoted to he wanted to be comfortable.
He brought back coaches that he knew they weren't necessarily
the top coaches on the market. He had told urban Meyer,
I'm going to coach guys I want to coach. Well,
winning's not comfortable. Winning's uncomfortable. Aaron goes to New York.
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I got Matt Hackett, I got Lazard, I got Cobb.
I get it. But that doesn't make the team better,
that makes you more comfortable, kind of. I do feel
like they gave the team to Aaron. But in the end, Sala,
his job's on the line. Okay, So Aaron's job isn't
on the line. Sala's is what's going on behind the scenes.
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It is their politick. King, where are you on the Jets.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Yeah, So you know you make the point about Belichick
bringing in his people because it's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
The way I always read that and understood it was
it's a language.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
You and I both read ESPN. I could hop offline
with you and give you a phone call and we
could just rip through the issues in our lives and
the battles and challenges we're dealing with on the video
side of things, the editorial side of things at thoughts
at the athletic now, and just we just know what
the others talking about because our language is ESPN. That's
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where we spent most of our time, right. So to me,
that's kind of the comp to how I always read
Bill and how he went along in his business there
with making sure the guys that just speak the language,
because look, the guys that speak that New England way
that are across the league, they're the same way.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
They love bringing in people that do it their way.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Because it just makes it's one less teaching moment that
they have to go through, one less layer. So for Aaron,
that's more about comfort, that's not speaking a language. That's
Nathaniel Hackey is going to let me do what I
want to do. We're gonna keep Nathana Hacket here. Now,
look inside the building, there's a belief here that he
lost his fastball. Hacket's not the same play caller he
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was in Green Bay when him and Aron were having
all that success. They spent the off season early on
looking around the league to see if there was anyone
that would maybe come in here and improve the team.
Kipping Hackett with this group for bringing in maybe another contributor.
I'm a believer and when you have too many cooks
in the kitchen there, especially in the play calling business, you're.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Not going to find success. You need the guy. And
if you don't think it's Nathaniel Hackett, move on. But
that's not what they were going to do.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Why because Aaron Rodgers is going to make that final call,
right and Aaron Rodgers want Snathaniel Hackett. They were all
in last year. We know what happened. It didn't work out.
So here we are now. The Jets have done an
incredible job of.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Just quieting the noise. Colin, remember this time last year
we were going bunkers. I was on your show like
every other day talking about the Jets.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Aaron looks amazing in camp and look, he's gonna put
on show a show in Flora Park again, right, We're
gonna see it again where he's going.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
To be making these throws that social media is going
to clip.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
And slow mow it and add the most beautiful, you know,
top gun music to it, and it's just it's going
to be perfection and beautiful.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
But in terms of.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Tempering the emotions and the expectations, we are not going
to hear Robert Salaz talk super Bowl like we did
last training.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Can't remember that. We're like, what are you talking about
super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
How could you possibly use those words when you've done
nothing on the field.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
They've learned.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
That is the one thing that's my biggest takeaway of
the off season from my conversations with coaches with players.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
They've been humbled. Yeah, they've been humbled.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
They know it's going to take more than what they
were doing last year, and it's going to take a
lot more than just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So a team last year, I didn't buy into him,
nor DeShawn Watson. There's some personal stuff I'm not into,
But be that as it may, he's talented. There were injuries.
It's the only time I remember a quarterback being given
the go ahead to play, and the quarterback is like,
I don't want to play. So it's like, Okay, what's
going on here? This is odd? Where are we on
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his health and the Because I love Stefanski, I love
Andrew Berry, I love their offensive line, I love there
are a lot of things here I really like about Cleveland.
That's a top six seven roster. Where are but it
doesn't work if Deshaun's not ready to go, none of
it matters. Where are we on this?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Yeah, it's almost like, you know, we're just talking about
the Jets, right, they stay healthy. We're talking about them
in the postseason, right because their rosters just built their
defenses that good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
And I look at the Browns the same way.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Right, they've got this stout defense run by Jim Schwartz,
they add Mike raymol Right, they're not the issue. They
were so healthy last year on defense and I know
parsh that's luck. But on offense, they obviously dealt with
some of those injuries, not just the running back position,
but at quarterback as we saw with Deshaun Watson having
that shoulder situation at Joe Flacco coming in.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
So now you got Jameis Winston back there.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I've heard great things about him in the Browns building
in terms of him understanding this Tafanska offense and doing
just a really good job there. But Watson, it's all
about his health. And during OTAs he wasn't fully participating
in team drills. He was doing some small work right
seven on seven stuff. The expectation though, is as camp
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ramps up, we will see more of him. That has
been the thought process, even going back to the spring
of We're giving him the summer. He's training and he
should be one hundred percent by the end of August,
if not anytime sooner, or at least the hope is
sooner at that point. But in terms of just that
entire team coming together, there are a lot like the
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Jets from a all right, let's keep our heads down
because if we if we just do what we're supposed
to do, we're going to be really good. And I'm
with you on Stefanski. Look, he's the most even killed
coach in the NFL. If you ever observe him on
the siline, you very rarely see highs or lows. I mean,
he gets amped up a little bit here and there.
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He gets disappointed, but he's just really controlled. It's a
really good skill set. He's obviously really bright, and he's
obviously also very confident and open to getting the thoughts
of other coaches and other.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
People that know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So the fact that him and Andrew Berry got that
extension that had been in the works for over a year,
that made all the sense of the world from Brown's ownership,
which we've known, we have criticized for years, Colin, but
I call that one a really good decision.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Diana Russini, all right, well, I hope you enjoyed your
forty five minute summer with your beautiful children, your husband.
I hope you enjoyed that. But it's over. I say
that as I have another ten days later in August,
not to rub it in because you know whatever, But
I know what a jerk, what a schmuck? Who am I?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
All right, I'll just go back to hustling. You go
back to lay out in the sun, having a margarita
or two, enjoying the life.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
You keep doing that You've earned it. I'm the one
who has to go out here, and I gotta earn it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I have earned it. Game, Mac, do you hear that
I have earned it. Diana said, I had heard it.
Good senior as Oa's Diana Russini the athletic.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
All right, thanks guys, Thanks Jay, have a good sever
you bet.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Now. Those NFL reporters they get they got a few
weeks in June, couple in July, boom, back to work.
You're out here traveling abroad, going to soccer matches and me,
I mean, I just heard.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You say you're taking more time off in August. I
was like starting to email the fifth floor. Hey guys,
I'm gonna need some time off as well. I don't
know where I'm going, but yeah, maybe I'll go to
a Jets camp or something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'd be fun. No, it's Hofstra, isn't it? And that yah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I've been to one before.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Camps, you know, back when I was a real journalist,
now just a talking camps are bigger than like we know,
the Steelers is big for years. You go to these
NFL camps. It's amazing. The crowds they get. Those camps
are like people take vacations, they do. I'd be kind
of fun, don't you think it's a teenage thunder world
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out there?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I spend four months a year with the NFL if
I'm taking a vacation any but I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm saying the average family, they worked their tail off
and you got some teenagers who like the NFL. How
much fun would that be? It might be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I would highly recommend just traveling the world seeing what's
out like languages.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Come on, man, people can't travel the world, but they
can go two hours to watch the Steelers or the
Bengals or the Saints. That'd be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Maybe, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I told you this when I was going to college
at Eastern Washington University. The Seahawks at that point before
that's pre Kirkland, they trained in Cheni. It was great.
I would go every single day that I was back
in two days they had Jack Ptera.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I mean, here we go seven.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I think he was the maybe he wasn't the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
By Well, let me ask you. Did your parents take
you to a lot of sporting events going up?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, I went to like two.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Or three or maybe four. Didn't have any money. Yeah,
we couldn't afford so we sure as heck, we're not
going to go. But I but I could afford it.
But I remember going to college Seahawk camps. I remember
Mike Tice, the tight end out of Maryland, and I
remember Eugene Robinson, a safety out of Colegate.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I know that name.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So they would give you a card, you know, of
the players, and you knew Steve Largen or Jim Zorn
or they had a you know, you knew certain guys.
And then there was this rookie out of Colgate lighting
the receivers up named Eugene Robinson, and I remember watching
him and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
This Ivy League guy.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You could tell first practice You're like, who is that
out of Colegate? And he was blowing people. You're not
supposed to really crush your teammates. So I always loved going.
If you go to a training camp and you're really
a die hard fan, you're going to see an undrafted
free agent, do so. I mean half this league is
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undrafted free agents. It is pretty interesting to when you
go to a camp, you know, you can kind of
play scout and you see guys and you're like, who's
this like seventh round wide receiver from Louisiana Tech And
he's beating your top corner on routes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When I say the name Steve Largent. What's the first
thing that comes to mind? And I know the audience
is gonna agree with me. I don't know what you'll say.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Well at number eighty, I always remember how much trouble
he gave the great Lester Hayes with the Raiders. He
gave the Raiders great teams and great secondaries fits.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What do you remember the face mask he did not have,
like the current face mask you know everybody has, like
a luny had just won, and I was like, whoa,
that's that's pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Steve Largent went to where'd he go? Is it Tulsa
or something? He they got him in a dre he was.
I think he was with like Houston and the Seahawks
were an expansion team and they got him in some deal.
I swear it was from the Oilers. He was great.
First game for best hand in football, And for some reason,
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those bad Seahawk teams gave great Raider teams fits, and
Largent gave Lester hay the great Craig that was post
Jim Zorn. But they had Sherman Smith not much on
the defensive side. Remember Tampa Bay and Seattle came out
same seventy six to seventy seven. Tampa had all good
defense and great defense selmans Leroy Selmon. The Seahawks had
(25:25):
a terrible defense. It was all offense, but it was
left handed. Jim Zorn. Uh, it was fat. I mean
they were we were in we had we lost a
lot of shootouts. But the Seahork games were wildly for
Kingdome was packed. The Huskies were big, but the Seahawks
very quickly became the game in town. Let's see large
it went to Tulsa. I was right, and he was
drafted by the Oilers but traded to Seattle after the preseason.
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So there, I was right on that wo and he
was I mean game one, it felt like it was
like Jim Zorn number ten, the left hander from like
cal Paly, Sam Lewis Obispo or something to Steve Largent,
and they were immediately an elite combo in the league,
like an expansion team. I'm I'm going seventies, rain Man,
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Speaker 1 (27:10):
By the way, Seattle peeps correcting me, I stand corrected.
Zorn and Largent played together for four or five years,
but Dave Craig actually played with him longer, so I
thought it was my memory is it was so much
about Jim Zorn, because that's kind of seventy six, seventy seven,
seventy eight, seventy nine when the Seahawks break in, But
he actually played longer was Dave Craig, Not that anybody
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beyond me and my Seattle friend's care. J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No, no turn on the news. This is the headline news.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Right, Let's go back to Caitlin Clark the fever. We're
playing the Minnesota Lynx yesterday. Actually a good game, tied
with like four minutes left. I turned it on, a
good drama there at the end. But the Minnesota Links
coach is Sheryl Reeve. She also coaches Team USA. She
was asked about Caitlyn's future on the national team. Reeve,
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who's very ornery and not happy with the question. Why
the hell would I answer a national team question? She said,
I'm wearing links, and I'm the head coach of the
national team, but I'm not the chair of the committee.
Anybody want to venture into anything else?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Who feisty?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who's that about?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Being harsh here to Cheryl Reeve, whoever that is. But
had you heard her name before? I don't know, like
two weeks ago, two months ago before Clark who she was?
And now she doesn't want questions about Caitlin Clark when
that's all anybody's talking about in the league. Why is
it so hard?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I just think women's basketball as a whole is not.
Still there's still balin water on Caitlyn. Why well, it's
just so I have a theory on it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
There are certain sports that are very insulur because they
feel ignored. Soccer fan. Soccer fans you need to pass
code to be able to talk with all the nerds
because they've been ignored and they've never won as much
as they keep telling everybody they're going to win. So
they're very prickly, very insular. You don't know it like
we know it. NFL fans, nobody cares join the party,
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join my tailgate. Here's a bourbon on the rocks. Nobody cares.
They're secure with themselves. Same with NBA fans. You'll want
to talk hoops, let's talk hoops. College football fans, same thing,
Come one, come home. But soccer fans and women's basketball fans,
WNBA and women's back they feel ignored, so therefore they
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get very tribal, very insular. We know better than you.
That's very soccer fan. By the way, you get less
of that with the United States Women's National Soccer team
because they've been successful, they're more secure with themselves. They're
revenue drivers, they're ratings drivers. So the women's soccer fans
are much more secure in themselves than the United States
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men's national team fans because more successful people tend to
be a tad more secure. But I find that women's
basketball is very precious, very rigid, very insulur, very defensive
on Kaitlin Clark because they've been ignored and you can't
just jump into our sport and have a big opinion
or ask tough questions, and it's aggravating.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I think it's a great theory. I think it's dumb.
Not calling your theory dumb, but it's just that idea
to me is stupid. I saw stat the last sixteen years,
the WNBA did not have one game with a TV
audience of one million, not one in sixteen years. Now,
every game for Kaitlin Clark this season except for one,
has that over.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
A million V Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, again, it's it's a psychology. Is that if you'd
been ignored, Okay, give you an example. Let's say you
go to high school and college and you have your
growth spurt is later and you don't. You know, you're
not very cool, and you ask a lot of girls
out and they all say.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, they all reject me.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, and all this in there, and then all of
a sudden you get a big job and you you know,
now the ladies who want to come talk to J.
Mack and J Max's lack talk to the hand. I
think there's a lot of that with soccer fans in America.
Not women's fans because they've been successful forever. Men's soccer
fans they get so precious will tell you who we
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should have As a coach. Yapperhalter won almost seventy percent
of his games and got us to the round of
sixteen in the World Cup with the second youngest team.
I don't think he's as clueless as you, Beckett.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Do you remember the movie Team Wolf? For Michael J.
Fox is kind of a nerd and then he starts
charged at to a wolf and he's dominating, and all
of a sudden, like the hot girl in school wants him,
and he's like, oh, hey, hey hey. But then his
rider die, who had liked him when he was a nobody,
kind of he pushed her to the side. And I
don't want to give a spoiler on a nineteen eighty
five movie. But that's kind of what you're saying, right.
It's like they've been ignored for a while, and now
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that they're getting attention.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
They don't want anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
No, they don't want anybody's advice. Take mine. You whiffed
on Caitlyn being denied the Olympics the first time. Don't
double down on that. Get her on the team for
no other reason than to give free marketing and publicity
to the other young women so they can get shoe
deals and we can fall in love with all these players.
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This is a moment in time. It's not selfish. Caitlin
Clark doesn't have to play. She's gonna triple the ratings
and give the entire sport, and these young women shoe
companies are like, oh, she's fun. Like so much of
this is introductory. We have not watched women's basketball to
this extent, like professional women's basketball, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I went to a WNBA game this season, and I
voted for the All Star Game. I've never done either
of those in my life. Those are both Kaitlin Clark impact.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That vo went online.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah I voted, I voted for the WNBL Star Game.
I know that segment, dude, what's wrong? It's great, but
it was like out there and did you see the
numbers like the last year, like the number one vote
that are at like ninety six thousand votes at l'clock
had like seven hundred and two thousand votes leading the
vocant it it's crazy. Anyways, let's move on to Jalen
Brown and the Olympic team Colins. This is I think
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this is a spicy story with potential down the road
issues for Boston. But Brown made it clear that he
was unhappy about not being asked to take Kawhi's spot
on Team USA. Spot went to his teammate Derek White instead.
There's still may be a chance, however, to see Brown
in Paris. KD has been dealing with a cat strain,
has not played, and while Steve Kerr said he's not concerned,
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Brown could reportedly resurface as an option if KD needs
to be replaced. Now, wouldn't it be something if Jaylen
Brown was like, oh now you want me, I'm all good,
no thanks, But you think Brown would take KD spot?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Well, there's an argument that Kawhi and KD shouldn't have
been on the team anyway. You put Lebron in Steph
on because they're both still playing at a high level
and both were very you know, available last year. I
never thought Kawhi should have been on the team. Kevin
Durant to me was go either way on it. I'd
probably take a younger guy. But Katie is great.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
He's a great Olympia like he was phenomenal at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Katy is great.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm not anti KD, but I the whole Jalen Brown
situation is very weird.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
God, it's not great. Now, let me give you an
outside the box stood. What if they go to the
high school kid Cooper flag and say, dude, we saw
you go toe to toe with our guys. I'm sure
you saw him. Give Jalen Brown the call flag is
unfreaking believable. He's only seventeen, but he's not as good
as Jalen. No, he's not. But Jalen Brown was the
Finals MVP. And what if he's chained to the end
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of the bench, and Jason Tatum is a six man
and now Brown's not playing, is that gonna look weird?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I think it's interesting. I'm not opposed to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Would just be happy to be there, like Christian Layner
was back.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I think I think it'd be interesting. Peop all. Forget
that Christian Layton are actually in the NBA. Could score.
He didn't have the career you thought, but he could score.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He could double double for like five years.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So yeah, he was people always a bust. He could play.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like ten years in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I know, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Final story is Viking.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Oh this one sticks.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison arrested on suspension of driving
under the influence in La on Friday. His car was
blocking a lane and he was found asleep behind the wheel,
according to the police. Support Vikings released the statement saying
there where and are gathering more information on the incident.
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Not a good look, especially given what happened with that
organization recently.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, also called Uber and left. Get on those things.
I was driving them all weekend. Available on your phone.
It cost twenty two dollars. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
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Speaker 3 (35:42):
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, it's watching Messi yesterday go down with an injury.
That we have a little bit of a messy in
our country's sports history. It would be called John Alway.
So John Alway and Messy were like literally prodigies in
high school from a very early age. They were considered
potentially the best ever. And so Elway won an MVP,
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he got to three super Bowls, but he didn't really
have the team around him. He got crushed and it
was like, you know what is Johnny had all these
fourth quarter comebacks. He was wildly dramatic. He had sort
of a cowboy feel to him, like he was a
hero in so many of these games, but he could
just never win super Bowls. Then he got Terrell Davis,
he got better teams around him. As he aged, he
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was still very good. Wins a super Bowl last year
and retires. He was still good, not as good. He
didn't carry the teams like he had earlier, but it
really capped off perfectly this prodigy's career. Well, Messi's the
same thing is that Messi came out. You know, he's fourteen,
fifteen years old, and people are like, this is it,
this is Pele, This is that level of player, and
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he you know, he had lost in World Cup finals
and it you know, sometimes did he have the right
components around him? Now now a couple of kopas the
World Cup. Like Elway, he's banged up, didn't quite appear
to be what he once was, but he's got better
teams around him. And now Argentina is finally winning when
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he is part of a greater collective. And that was
where it was with Elway. John carried good teams. A
lot of the talent was on defense. It wasn't until
he got like a Hall of Fame running back and
the right coach, and John then later in his career
wasn't as dominant, but he won his championships. And it
feels a little bit like that for Messi the prodigy
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into the great disappointment and individual success, into finally having
better teammates, a better team, and then capping off his
career the way Alway does at the top. I tend
to think he's not retired and he'll come back. But
if he did retire, what a run it's been in
recent memory for Argentina. Argentina to me, Argentina and Brazil.
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When I think of global soccer. Those are the two
strongest brands Brazil has had, you know, not beyond Peley,
crazy skill level for players, some of the most wildly
dynamic players ever. And Argentina is like one A and
just a rich history. And I mean when when when
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in Argentina you were talking about this earlier? For these countries,
I mean it just you know, in America we're so
lucky we have this labyrinth of college teams. A lot
of people don't even watch the NFL. They're college fans.
They don't have that. In Europe they don't have that.
In other countries. A lot of people, you know, you
go to college at Michigan, you're a Wolverine before you're
(38:41):
a Detroit Lions fan or a Detroit Tiger fan. Love
you know again, I have friends who are college football fans.
They watch all day Saturday and they'll watch a couple
TV games maybe on a Sunday. But you know, for
a lot of these countries, this is it. And I
could see, you know, Messi's made a lot of money Elway,
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and Messi'll make money for the rest of his career.
This would be a way to end on top. This
would be a way like John. I remember when John
Elway retired, thinking he's still really good. He wasn't as dominant,
He'd had a few injuries, he was a little creakier,
but it was like, you know, John was like, yeah,
I've got my health Stanford. You know. Then he went
(39:22):
into car dealerships and you know, eventually got into the
front office. But it would be I mean, if you
were his agent, forget the money part. If you were
Messi's agent, aren't you more of a legend leaving after
all these championships, the World Cup, the Copas.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, he could leave Argentina and still play in the MLS.
It is a weird time, though.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
We're right.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Elwai walked away wisely at the top. But it's like
Lebron's hanging on. When's he gonna hang When's it gonna
be the end for the Lebron's a little like Elway.
He's not as great as he was.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
But in any moment Elway in his last year, in
any second half or fourth quarter, he'd give you a
nine play drive and you'd be like, that's Lway. Like
Brady at the end, you know, even his last year,
you're like two minutes left, Tom gets the ball, he's
driving down the field.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He just didn't want all the workedouts and the training
in the off seat. You know, at some point that
same with Elway. Most of these guys like MESSI, I
want to play the games. I don't want all them
tune up for it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Kind of at the end of the major social media
superstar era, Messi, Ronaldo's near the end. Lebron Curry, even
Kevin Durant is like kind of sort of. I mean,
he's just not the same dude he was in the playoffs,
right Yeah, he's not winning anything. It's just a weird
time right now because social media pop with all those dudes,
and now here we are fifteen years later. It's like,
(40:39):
oh wow, they're all kind of getting near the end.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it's I was just watching some of the USA
Australia game. Our players are really good, never stacked, and
you know, I was watching for about two minutes. I
hope everybody appreciates. I am always willing to pivot on
a player, and Anthony Davis in the last year and
(41:04):
a half to two years has been so good.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I was trying to run him out of town.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Weren't.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You don't think He's never healthy. He didn't play through injuries,
he wasn't in good shape.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Only big trade chip. They have also a smaller one.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm not moving AD now, boy, I'm watching some of
these highlights. I'm watching it here in the back.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Anthony's good, but Joel Embiid's kind of finding foot. He's
not off to a great part.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I would take AD today over Embiid. And I know
all the analytic people say I'm wrong. I would take
AD over Embid.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, it's weird the analytic guys love Joel Embiid.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I will say this, Anthony Davis knows what he's not.
Embiid doesn't. And Beid can get in the way to
your perimeter game. Anthony Davis, they tried to force him
outside to shoot threes. He's like, I'm getting closer to
the ten and the last. I mean, I thought he
was the best defensive player in the league. Anthony Davis
has spent more time in the weight room. He was
bigger and stronger this year. Huh. By the way, didn't
(41:56):
get hurt this year. I think he played seventy two games.
I would take I know it's I know analytic people don't.
I would a d knows what he is and he
knows what he's not. MBI kind of thinks he's everything,
and sometimes he gets in the way of the offense.
I know it sounds weird for all his points, but
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is a Monday run FS two. By the way, little
Canada Australia game basketball now USA Australia, my bad. I
just watching the highlights. Jason Tatum had a nice dune
not to send you to another channel, but I.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Just you don't need to see that blood bat USA
already have.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I was watching some of the highlights.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Australia for some reason playing so neat.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
By the way, Canada is having a run soccer basketball. Indeed,
our friendly neighbors to the north are having a run. Man,
they got good coaching some young young stars.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Did you see Serbia beat France. Jokid's basically took down
women Yamin company. He soiled out and Serbia is still
won the game. Done you. Olympic men's basketball is gonna
be fire I.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Can't wait so well, women, if Kaitlyn Clark plays the fact, yes,
let's just just put her on the team.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Get her off the team.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I mean last week you weren't here, but we were
talking about the men's team. And I've said this about
Caitlyn Clark, whether she earns it or not. When you
talk about Olympic men's and women's basketball teams, the first
five or six players are the best. You know, your
Steph Curry's and your aunts, and your Jason Tatum's. The
middle down has always been political. Michael Jordan didn't want
(01:35):
Isaia on the team. He didn't get on the team.
You got a Nike Jalen Brown issue. Diana Tarassi is
a great player, she's been there before. Get Caitlyn Clark
on the team. They're gonna win the gold. They always
win the gold. Olympics World Cups. Where you put World Cups,
where you put Olympics, Olympic men's and women's basketball teams.
(01:55):
There's always been a political component to it. Get Caitlin
Clark triple your television ratings. She's Taylor Swift in sneakers.
Get her on the team. It's good for women's basketball.
She's probably gonna play very limited numbers. But for the record,
she was one and eight to start because of the schedule.
(02:17):
But have you noticed in the last like ten games
she's taking over games.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Imagine a college kid's growing up in the pros and
it taken longer than a minute. But I'll say this
on on the US men's side, like this whole Jalen
Brown Derek White thing is bizarre. I mean, Jalen Rose
a finals MVP, three of his teammates are on the
Olympic team, and he's not what the hell is that about?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then he claims it's a cause a Nike well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Swoosh related and I'm not. I'm not picking on Nike.
I was in Portland over the weekend. But this stuff's
very political. Have you ever you ever see that movie Air?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
That was awesome again.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've seen it three times, really great. I like it,
but it's okay. The shoe wars are very political. Business
is politics, politics is sports. Sports is both business and politics.
We all know that, but the average fan doesn't realize that.
And when they see the finals MVP and Eastern Conference
Finals MVP snubbed and he puts out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The emoji with the monocle, and he's like, what is
this about. Come on, that's not a good look for
the league, Colin, I mean you don't think so well.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I just think it's it illustrates the reality of Olympic
men's and women's basketball. Get Caitlyn on the team. Here
we go, Colin right, Colin wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In a Monday where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Let's start with this. Caitlyn Clark ten points in the fourth.
We had said, once her schedule lightens up, she's going
to be Andrew Luck. She is going to take a
bad roster to playoff level sports. And she's been terrific.
She's averaging seventeen and eight. Actually, a couple of her
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teammates now she is elevated. They play better defense. She
leaves the league in assists, she's third and three pointers made.
The league did her no favors with the first seven
or eight games against New York and Connecticut. Caitlin Clark,
she's good and take advance. This is your Connor McGregor
(04:17):
to the UFC moment, Bryce Harper to baseball, get her
on television as much as you can. Where Colin was wrong,
the Clippers let Paul George go I still do not
get it. Do you realize he shot forty one percent
on three point shooting. He's a little bit like a
poor man's Jason Tatum out West, and they let him go,
(04:38):
so they have now James Harden and Kawhi Leonard, who's
never available. I still don't get it. I think he's
an elite wing defender. He's an elite wing three point shooter.
The whole league could use Paul George. The whole league
could use Paul George the Clippers hard.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Pass where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do you know? NFL executives and coaches and scouts
named Jared Goff the second best quarterback in the NFC.
I never get the GoF slander, folks. He threw for
fifty four hundred yards last year and had a higher
passer rating than Patrick Mahomes. I know he doesn't run around.
(05:25):
He's the last of the true young pocket quarterback. For
the record, CJ. Stroud doesn't run around either much. This
league is won from the pocket. Scouts get it. The
critics don't Goff. After Stafford named best NFC.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Quarterback, where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Greg Berhalter won sixty nine percent of his games as
a United States men's national team coach and they axed him.
He got to the round of sixteen at the World
Cup and a draw against England with the second youngest
World Cup team, and they asked him. By the way
I've said, I think there needs to be some house
(06:05):
cleaning in the US soccer federation. Here's Canada's coach on
if he'd be interested for Greg's job.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I have no interest in the US job, and to
be fair, unless there's a big shift in the organization,
I don't think that I'll ever have interest in that
job in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What is that telling you? It's not a Greg Berhalter thing,
It's a soccer federation thing in this country. Where Colin
was right loved Jalen Brunson from the beginning. I said
he had self awareness. I said, this is a kid
you build around. There's a lot of fake New York stars.
This is the best quarterback in the city. He's a leader,
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he's tough, he embraces it. He just signed a contract
which was very team friendly and with the new CBA,
big advantages for New York to stock that front court.
Jalen Brunson is the most likable NBA player, arguably in
this sport self awareness, leader, toughness, villanova guy. I mean,
(07:13):
I don't know what you can say about That's what
leadership looks like. A willingness to sign a contract that's
not Jalen friendly, although I make one hundred and fifty
seven million. It's team friendly, city friendly, organization friendly.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Where Colin was right, Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
James, how can you draft him? Have you seen the
summer league attendance? Now, he can't shoot, but he's not
a shooter. He's been a very good defensive player. He's
selling merch, he's packing the summer league games. Listen. It
was a terrible draft. Lebron's carried the sport along with
the Warriors for twenty years. You couldn't do him a solid.
(07:50):
He's actually, he's actually been a very good defensive player.
He runs the court well, he's a tweeter. He's not
a true point. He can't shoot from the outside like
you'd like a two guard to do. But is he
an NBA rotational player?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The overreaction to him being drafted the kids selling out arenas,
this is a business right.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The Denver Nuggets second straight off season, lost a key
role player. I thought this could be a dynasty after
that title, but KCP to Orlando. Excellent wing defender, excellent
three point shooter, second year in a row. Denver's lost
a really important piece. I don't love it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The Chicago Bulls are trying to give Zach Lavine away
and nobody wants him. The Warriors were offered Zach Levine
for Andrew Wiggins and Chris Paul who they were trying
to get rid of, and the Warriors declined it. He
has become an increasingly inefficient player. He's a highlight reel,
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but his three point shooting's gone backwards. He's not a
winning player. He's just fun to watch on YouTube. His
teams don't win. His three point shootings going backwards. The
Bulls are trying to give him away, and even the
Warriors said pass. Where Colin was right. I said this
couple months ago. If you watch the Phillies play, that's
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the best team in baseball. Tremendous power, starting pitching. They
have eight All Stars times the all time record ties
it and that doesn't include you know, Aaron Nola got snubbed.
Their ace got snubbed. So this is just a tremendous
baseball team. Thirty seven and sixteen at home, another Bryce
Harper team is captivating, looks and feels like a team
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that's gonna get to the World Series. Very rarely does
home field advantage feel impactful in baseball the old Yankee Stadium. Absolutely.
Did you watch the Phillies play at home? You can't.
You can't get your TV remote and go through the channels.
If the Phillies are playing, they jump off the television.
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Best team in baseball just swept the Dodgers last week.
Colin right, Colin wrong. And with that, Diana Russini, her
summer's over. Yeah, I hope you had a good time vacationing.
Do you know, Diana, your summer's over? You know that, right? Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I know.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I'm trying to be the Phillies of TV reporters at
this point. I'm just trying to pop right out onto
the screen here with everything I've been thinking about on
the beach the last few weeks. But Colin, I I've
realized this as I've gotten older, and I'm not sure
if you can relate to this, but relaxing has become
harder and I hope that's just how busy we are,
how online we all can be. But I turned into
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someone that could hang at the Jersey Shore for you know,
seventy eight days not have a worry of care in
the world to I'm like two days in and I'm like, well,
I'd probably go home.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And run in my house or.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Maybe take up gardening and do something. So I'm trying
to get better. But here here's what I had been
working on all summer. I'm launching my new podcast, Scoop City, tomorrow.
It drops the first episode. So I'm really pumped to
join the world. And I've spent my whole career trying
to learn from you. So I hope I make you proud.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
My friend.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, I'm happy for you. You're a hustler, and you
know I love that you love hustlers.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Let's talk Brandon Ayuk. So the Niners draft to There's
two things here. They drafted a couple receivers, Deebo and
Christian McCaffrey. They're very reliant on their physicality. Both players
have a bit of an injury history. Brandon Aiyuk doesn't
as much. The Niners are getting old Trent Williams Kittle
a Yuk and I think to myself, Oh, they need
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Brandon like they need it, like he's one of the
young guys. Deebo's not old, but there's a lot of
injuries there, and I think to myself, they need him.
But I would argue, Brock Purties not a deep ball thrower?
Does he writen twenty seven million? Like, what are you hearing?
Why did they draft two receivers? What's going on with
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Brandon Ayuk and the Niners.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Well, let's just start with the fact that they were
open to taking calls and calling around right before the draft,
possibly open to moving Brandon Ayuk. And yes, that's contractual,
but you know how this works. If a player like
Christian McCaffrey, let's say, had interest from another team, they
are not touching Christian McCaffrey. They love him. The San
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Francisco Fernaninas are obsessed with Christian McCaffrey. So when you
start hearing right around that draft time that players like
Deebo and I were available, we'll call it, that tells
you a little bit. But here we are now, right
just a few days out from the start of their camp.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
And I can tell you, the Niners want to keep them.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
They do, but the price for receivers has gone up
so much that number that's not sitting great now. This
is a team that has always done deals late anyway, right,
remember last year the Nick Bosa situation. Both sides were
telling me the whole time. I remember being on your
show the day the deal was done and walking out
of your studio in New York and I got the
text that the deal was done. I'm like, finally, because
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I went on talking to you telling you they want
to keep this guy.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Of course they do. He's the best defender right now
outside Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
So that being said, they want to keep them. The
price set that the Niners feel was a good number
for him, we're talking that twenty six twenty seven million
dollar range.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Are UK's looking at.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
The market going I'm worth a lot more than that,
And when you look at the forty nine ers, they're
actually in a really good position with him because they
could just let him play out this year and most
likely use the tag on him next year. So Ayuk's
making seventeen now right right around there, the tag next
year twenty two to twenty three mil. So the Niners
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are in a good spot for him. So in terms
of this deal getting done, I see them either working
it out that way or just doing.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A small deal. I think that's how it's going to
get done.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
In terms of Ayuk's interest around the league, there are
definitely a lot of teams paying attention.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know. I said this earlier that Bill Belichick was
all about winning for years and then at the end
it kind of pivoted to he wanted to be comfortable.
He brought back coaches that he knew they weren't necessarily
the top coaches on the market. He had told urban Meyer,
I'm going to coach guys I want to coach. Well,
winning's not comfortable. Winning's uncomfortable. Aaron goes to New York.
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I got Matt Hackett, I got Lazard, I got Cobb.
I get it. But that doesn't make the team better,
that makes you more comfortable, kind of. I do feel
like they gave the team to Aaron. But in the end, Sala,
his job's on the line. Okay, So Aaron's job isn't
on the line. Sala's is what's going on behind the scenes.
(14:51):
It is their politick. King, where are you on the Jets.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Yeah, So you know you make the point about Belichick
bringing in his people because it's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
The way I always read that and understood it was
it's a language.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
You and I both read ESPN. I could hop offline
with you and give you a phone call and we
could just rip through the issues in our lives and
the battles and challenges we're dealing with on the video
side of things, the editorial side of things at thoughts
at the athletic now, and just we just know what
the others talking about because our language is ESPN. That's
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where we spent most of our time, right. So to me,
that's kind of the comp to how I always read
Bill and how he went along in his business there
with making sure the guys that just speak the language,
because look, the guys that speak that New England way
that are across the league, they're the same way.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
They love bringing in people that do it their way.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Because it just makes it's one less teaching moment that
they have to go through, one less layer. So for Aaron,
that's more about comfort, that's not speaking a language. That's
Nathaniel Hackey is going to let me do what I
want to do. We're gonna keep Nathana Hacket here. Now,
look inside the building, there's a belief here that he
lost his fastball. Hacket's not the same play caller he
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was in Green Bay when him and Aron were having
all that success. They spent the off season early on
looking around the league to see if there was anyone
that would maybe come in here and improve the team.
Kipping Hackett with this group for bringing in maybe another contributor.
I'm a believer and when you have too many cooks
in the kitchen there, especially in the play calling business, you're.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Not going to find success. You need the guy. And
if you don't think it's Nathaniel Hackett, move on. But
that's not what they were going to do.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Why because Aaron Rodgers is going to make that final call,
right and Aaron Rodgers want Snathaniel Hackett. They were all
in last year. We know what happened. It didn't work out.
So here we are now. The Jets have done an
incredible job of.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Just quieting the noise. Colin, remember this time last year
we were going bunkers. I was on your show like
every other day talking about the Jets.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Aaron looks amazing in camp and look, he's gonna put
on show a show in Flora Park again, right, We're
gonna see it again where he's going.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
To be making these throws that social media is going
to clip.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
And slow mow it and add the most beautiful, you know,
top gun music to it, and it's just it's going
to be perfection and beautiful.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
But in terms of.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Tempering the emotions and the expectations, we are not going
to hear Robert Salaz talk super Bowl like we did
last training.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Can't remember that. We're like, what are you talking about
super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
How could you possibly use those words when you've done
nothing on the field.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
They've learned.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
That is the one thing that's my biggest takeaway of
the off season from my conversations with coaches with players.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
They've been humbled. Yeah, they've been humbled.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
They know it's going to take more than what they
were doing last year, and it's going to take a
lot more than just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So a team last year, I didn't buy into him,
nor DeShawn Watson. There's some personal stuff I'm not into,
But be that as it may, he's talented. There were injuries.
It's the only time I remember a quarterback being given
the go ahead to play, and the quarterback is like,
I don't want to play. So it's like, Okay, what's
going on here? This is odd? Where are we on
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his health and the Because I love Stefanski, I love
Andrew Berry, I love their offensive line, I love there
are a lot of things here I really like about Cleveland.
That's a top six seven roster. Where are but it
doesn't work if Deshaun's not ready to go, none of
it matters. Where are we on this?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Yeah, it's almost like, you know, we're just talking about
the Jets, right, they stay healthy. We're talking about them
in the postseason, right because their rosters just built their
defenses that good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
And I look at the Browns the same way.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Right, they've got this stout defense run by Jim Schwartz,
they add Mike raymol Right, they're not the issue. They
were so healthy last year on defense and I know
parsh that's luck. But on offense, they obviously dealt with
some of those injuries, not just the running back position,
but at quarterback as we saw with Deshaun Watson having
that shoulder situation at Joe Flacco coming in.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
So now you got Jameis Winston back there.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I've heard great things about him in the Browns building
in terms of him understanding this Tafanska offense and doing
just a really good job there. But Watson, it's all
about his health. And during OTAs he wasn't fully participating
in team drills. He was doing some small work right
seven on seven stuff. The expectation though, is as camp
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ramps up, we will see more of him. That has
been the thought process, even going back to the spring
of We're giving him the summer. He's training and he
should be one hundred percent by the end of August,
if not anytime sooner, or at least the hope is
sooner at that point. But in terms of just that
entire team coming together, there are a lot like the
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Jets from a all right, let's keep our heads down
because if we if we just do what we're supposed
to do, we're going to be really good. And I'm
with you on Stefanski. Look, he's the most even killed
coach in the NFL. If you ever observe him on
the siline, you very rarely see highs or lows. I mean,
he gets amped up a little bit here and there.
(19:59):
He gets disappointed, but he's just really controlled. It's a
really good skill set. He's obviously really bright, and he's
obviously also very confident and open to getting the thoughts
of other coaches and other.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
People that know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So the fact that him and Andrew Berry got that
extension that had been in the works for over a year,
that made all the sense of the world from Brown's ownership,
which we've known, we have criticized for years, Colin, but
I call that one a really good decision.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Diana Russini, all right, well, I hope you enjoyed your
forty five minute summer with your beautiful children, your husband.
I hope you enjoyed that. But it's over. I say
that as I have another ten days later in August,
not to rub it in because you know whatever, But
I know what a jerk, what a schmuck? Who am I?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
All right, I'll just go back to hustling. You go
back to lay out in the sun, having a margarita
or two, enjoying the life.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
You keep doing that You've earned it. I'm the one
who has to go out here, and I gotta earn it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I have earned it. Game, Mac, do you hear that
I have earned it. Diana said, I had heard it.
Good senior as Oa's Diana Russini the athletic.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
All right, thanks guys, Thanks Jay, have a good sever
you bet.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Now. Those NFL reporters they get they got a few
weeks in June, couple in July, boom, back to work.
You're out here traveling abroad, going to soccer matches and me,
I mean, I just heard.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You say you're taking more time off in August. I
was like starting to email the fifth floor. Hey guys,
I'm gonna need some time off as well. I don't
know where I'm going, but yeah, maybe I'll go to
a Jets camp or something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'd be fun. No, it's Hofstra, isn't it? And that yah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I've been to one before.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Camps, you know, back when I was a real journalist,
now just a talking camps are bigger than like we know,
the Steelers is big for years. You go to these
NFL camps. It's amazing. The crowds they get. Those camps
are like people take vacations, they do. I'd be kind
of fun, don't you think it's a teenage thunder world
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out there?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I spend four months a year with the NFL if
I'm taking a vacation any but I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm saying the average family, they worked their tail off
and you got some teenagers who like the NFL. How
much fun would that be? It might be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I would highly recommend just traveling the world seeing what's
out like languages.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Come on, man, people can't travel the world, but they
can go two hours to watch the Steelers or the
Bengals or the Saints. That'd be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Maybe, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I told you this when I was going to college
at Eastern Washington University. The Seahawks at that point before
that's pre Kirkland, they trained in Cheni. It was great.
I would go every single day that I was back
in two days they had Jack Ptera.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I mean, here we go seven.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I think he was the maybe he wasn't the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
By Well, let me ask you. Did your parents take
you to a lot of sporting events going up?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, I went to like two.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Or three or maybe four. Didn't have any money. Yeah,
we couldn't afford so we sure as heck, we're not
going to go. But I but I could afford it.
But I remember going to college Seahawk camps. I remember
Mike Tice, the tight end out of Maryland, and I
remember Eugene Robinson, a safety out of Colegate.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I know that name.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So they would give you a card, you know, of
the players, and you knew Steve Largen or Jim Zorn
or they had a you know, you knew certain guys.
And then there was this rookie out of Colgate lighting
the receivers up named Eugene Robinson, and I remember watching
him and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
This Ivy League guy.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You could tell first practice You're like, who is that
out of Colegate? And he was blowing people. You're not
supposed to really crush your teammates. So I always loved going.
If you go to a training camp and you're really
a die hard fan, you're going to see an undrafted
free agent, do so. I mean half this league is
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undrafted free agents. It is pretty interesting to when you
go to a camp, you know, you can kind of
play scout and you see guys and you're like, who's
this like seventh round wide receiver from Louisiana Tech And
he's beating your top corner on routes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When I say the name Steve Largent. What's the first
thing that comes to mind? And I know the audience
is gonna agree with me. I don't know what you'll say.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Well at number eighty, I always remember how much trouble
he gave the great Lester Hayes with the Raiders. He
gave the Raiders great teams and great secondaries fits.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What do you remember the face mask he did not have,
like the current face mask you know everybody has, like
a luny had just won, and I was like, whoa,
that's that's pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Steve Largent went to where'd he go? Is it Tulsa
or something? He they got him in a dre he was.
I think he was with like Houston and the Seahawks
were an expansion team and they got him in some deal.
I swear it was from the Oilers. He was great.
First game for best hand in football, And for some reason,
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those bad Seahawk teams gave great Raider teams fits, and
Largent gave Lester hay the great Craig that was post
Jim Zorn. But they had Sherman Smith not much on
the defensive side. Remember Tampa Bay and Seattle came out
same seventy six to seventy seven. Tampa had all good
defense and great defense selmans Leroy Selmon. The Seahawks had
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a terrible defense. It was all offense, but it was
left handed. Jim Zorn. Uh, it was fat. I mean
they were we were in we had we lost a
lot of shootouts. But the Seahork games were wildly for
Kingdome was packed. The Huskies were big, but the Seahawks
very quickly became the game in town. Let's see large
it went to Tulsa. I was right, and he was
drafted by the Oilers but traded to Seattle after the preseason.
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So there, I was right on that wo and he
was I mean game one, it felt like it was
like Jim Zorn number ten, the left hander from like
cal Paly, Sam Lewis Obispo or something to Steve Largent,
and they were immediately an elite combo in the league,
like an expansion team. I'm I'm going seventies, rain Man,
(26:11):
Yes you are wa start talking about Well, it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is All Star Baseball Week, right, so this is like
the time when you're going to turn back the clock
to your seventies nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
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Speaker 1 (27:10):
By the way, Seattle peeps correcting me, I stand corrected.
Zorn and Largent played together for four or five years,
but Dave Craig actually played with him longer, so I
thought it was my memory is it was so much
about Jim Zorn, because that's kind of seventy six, seventy seven,
seventy eight, seventy nine when the Seahawks break in, But
he actually played longer was Dave Craig, Not that anybody
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beyond me and my Seattle friend's care. J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No, no turn on the news. This is the headline news.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Right, Let's go back to Caitlin Clark the fever. We're
playing the Minnesota Lynx yesterday. Actually a good game, tied
with like four minutes left. I turned it on, a
good drama there at the end. But the Minnesota Links
coach is Sheryl Reeve. She also coaches Team USA. She
was asked about Caitlyn's future on the national team. Reeve,
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who's very ornery and not happy with the question. Why
the hell would I answer a national team question? She said,
I'm wearing links, and I'm the head coach of the
national team, but I'm not the chair of the committee.
Anybody want to venture into anything else?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Who feisty?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who's that about?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Being harsh here to Cheryl Reeve, whoever that is. But
had you heard her name before? I don't know, like
two weeks ago, two months ago before Clark who she was?
And now she doesn't want questions about Caitlin Clark when
that's all anybody's talking about in the league. Why is
it so hard?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I just think women's basketball as a whole is not.
Still there's still balin water on Caitlyn. Why well, it's
just so I have a theory on it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
There are certain sports that are very insulur because they
feel ignored. Soccer fan. Soccer fans you need to pass
code to be able to talk with all the nerds
because they've been ignored and they've never won as much
as they keep telling everybody they're going to win. So
they're very prickly, very insular. You don't know it like
we know it. NFL fans, nobody cares join the party,
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join my tailgate. Here's a bourbon on the rocks. Nobody cares.
They're secure with themselves. Same with NBA fans. You'll want
to talk hoops, let's talk hoops. College football fans, same thing,
Come one, come home. But soccer fans and women's basketball fans,
WNBA and women's back they feel ignored, so therefore they
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get very tribal, very insular. We know better than you.
That's very soccer fan. By the way, you get less
of that with the United States Women's National Soccer team
because they've been successful, they're more secure with themselves. They're
revenue drivers, they're ratings drivers. So the women's soccer fans
are much more secure in themselves than the United States
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men's national team fans because more successful people tend to
be a tad more secure. But I find that women's
basketball is very precious, very rigid, very insulur, very defensive
on Kaitlin Clark because they've been ignored and you can't
just jump into our sport and have a big opinion
or ask tough questions, and it's aggravating.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I think it's a great theory. I think it's dumb.
Not calling your theory dumb, but it's just that idea
to me is stupid. I saw stat the last sixteen years,
the WNBA did not have one game with a TV
audience of one million, not one in sixteen years. Now,
every game for Kaitlin Clark this season except for one,
has that over.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
A million V Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, again, it's it's a psychology. Is that if you'd
been ignored, Okay, give you an example. Let's say you
go to high school and college and you have your
growth spurt is later and you don't. You know, you're
not very cool, and you ask a lot of girls
out and they all say.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, they all reject me.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, and all this in there, and then all of
a sudden you get a big job and you you know,
now the ladies who want to come talk to J.
Mack and J Max's lack talk to the hand. I
think there's a lot of that with soccer fans in America.
Not women's fans because they've been successful forever. Men's soccer
fans they get so precious will tell you who we
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should have As a coach. Yapperhalter won almost seventy percent
of his games and got us to the round of
sixteen in the World Cup with the second youngest team.
I don't think he's as clueless as you, Beckett.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Do you remember the movie Team Wolf? For Michael J.
Fox is kind of a nerd and then he starts
charged at to a wolf and he's dominating, and all
of a sudden, like the hot girl in school wants him,
and he's like, oh, hey, hey hey. But then his
rider die, who had liked him when he was a nobody,
kind of he pushed her to the side. And I
don't want to give a spoiler on a nineteen eighty
five movie. But that's kind of what you're saying, right.
It's like they've been ignored for a while, and now
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that they're getting attention.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
They don't want anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
No, they don't want anybody's advice. Take mine. You whiffed
on Caitlyn being denied the Olympics the first time. Don't
double down on that. Get her on the team for
no other reason than to give free marketing and publicity
to the other young women so they can get shoe
deals and we can fall in love with all these players.
(32:17):
This is a moment in time. It's not selfish. Caitlin
Clark doesn't have to play. She's gonna triple the ratings
and give the entire sport, and these young women shoe
companies are like, oh, she's fun. Like so much of
this is introductory. We have not watched women's basketball to
this extent, like professional women's basketball, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I went to a WNBA game this season, and I
voted for the All Star Game. I've never done either
of those in my life. Those are both Kaitlin Clark impact.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That vo went online.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah I voted, I voted for the WNBL Star Game.
I know that segment, dude, what's wrong? It's great, but
it was like out there and did you see the
numbers like the last year, like the number one vote
that are at like ninety six thousand votes at l'clock
had like seven hundred and two thousand votes leading the
vocant it it's crazy. Anyways, let's move on to Jalen
Brown and the Olympic team Colins. This is I think
(33:09):
this is a spicy story with potential down the road
issues for Boston. But Brown made it clear that he
was unhappy about not being asked to take Kawhi's spot
on Team USA. Spot went to his teammate Derek White instead.
There's still may be a chance, however, to see Brown
in Paris. KD has been dealing with a cat strain,
has not played, and while Steve Kerr said he's not concerned,
(33:30):
Brown could reportedly resurface as an option if KD needs
to be replaced. Now, wouldn't it be something if Jaylen
Brown was like, oh now you want me, I'm all good,
no thanks, But you think Brown would take KD spot?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Well, there's an argument that Kawhi and KD shouldn't have
been on the team anyway. You put Lebron in Steph
on because they're both still playing at a high level
and both were very you know, available last year. I
never thought Kawhi should have been on the team. Kevin
Durant to me was go either way on it. I'd
probably take a younger guy. But Katie is great.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
He's a great Olympia like he was phenomenal at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Katy is great.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm not anti KD, but I the whole Jalen Brown
situation is very weird.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
God, it's not great. Now, let me give you an
outside the box stood. What if they go to the
high school kid Cooper flag and say, dude, we saw
you go toe to toe with our guys. I'm sure
you saw him. Give Jalen Brown the call flag is
unfreaking believable. He's only seventeen, but he's not as good
as Jalen. No, he's not. But Jalen Brown was the
Finals MVP. And what if he's chained to the end
(34:37):
of the bench, and Jason Tatum is a six man
and now Brown's not playing, is that gonna look weird?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I think it's interesting. I'm not opposed to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Would just be happy to be there, like Christian Layner
was back.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I think I think it'd be interesting. Peop all. Forget
that Christian Layton are actually in the NBA. Could score.
He didn't have the career you thought, but he could score.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He could double double for like five years.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So yeah, he was people always a bust. He could play.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like ten years in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I know, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Final story is Viking.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Oh this one sticks.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison arrested on suspension of driving
under the influence in La on Friday. His car was
blocking a lane and he was found asleep behind the wheel,
according to the police. Support Vikings released the statement saying
there where and are gathering more information on the incident.
(35:25):
Not a good look, especially given what happened with that
organization recently.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, also called Uber and left. Get on those things.
I was driving them all weekend. Available on your phone.
It cost twenty two dollars. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by The.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, it's watching Messi yesterday go down with an injury.
That we have a little bit of a messy in
our country's sports history. It would be called John Alway.
So John Alway and Messy were like literally prodigies in
high school from a very early age. They were considered
potentially the best ever. And so Elway won an MVP,
(36:09):
he got to three super Bowls, but he didn't really
have the team around him. He got crushed and it
was like, you know what is Johnny had all these
fourth quarter comebacks. He was wildly dramatic. He had sort
of a cowboy feel to him, like he was a
hero in so many of these games, but he could
just never win super Bowls. Then he got Terrell Davis,
he got better teams around him. As he aged, he
(36:30):
was still very good. Wins a super Bowl last year
and retires. He was still good, not as good. He
didn't carry the teams like he had earlier, but it
really capped off perfectly this prodigy's career. Well, Messi's the
same thing is that Messi came out. You know, he's fourteen,
fifteen years old, and people are like, this is it,
this is Pele, This is that level of player, and
(36:53):
he you know, he had lost in World Cup finals
and it you know, sometimes did he have the right
components around him? Now now a couple of kopas the
World Cup. Like Elway, he's banged up, didn't quite appear
to be what he once was, but he's got better
teams around him. And now Argentina is finally winning when
(37:13):
he is part of a greater collective. And that was
where it was with Elway. John carried good teams. A
lot of the talent was on defense. It wasn't until
he got like a Hall of Fame running back and
the right coach, and John then later in his career
wasn't as dominant, but he won his championships. And it
feels a little bit like that for Messi the prodigy
(37:35):
into the great disappointment and individual success, into finally having
better teammates, a better team, and then capping off his
career the way Alway does at the top. I tend
to think he's not retired and he'll come back. But
if he did retire, what a run it's been in
recent memory for Argentina. Argentina to me, Argentina and Brazil.
(38:00):
When I think of global soccer. Those are the two
strongest brands Brazil has had, you know, not beyond Peley,
crazy skill level for players, some of the most wildly
dynamic players ever. And Argentina is like one A and
just a rich history. And I mean when when when
(38:20):
in Argentina you were talking about this earlier? For these countries,
I mean it just you know, in America we're so
lucky we have this labyrinth of college teams. A lot
of people don't even watch the NFL. They're college fans.
They don't have that. In Europe they don't have that.
In other countries. A lot of people, you know, you
go to college at Michigan, you're a Wolverine before you're
(38:41):
a Detroit Lions fan or a Detroit Tiger fan. Love
you know again, I have friends who are college football fans.
They watch all day Saturday and they'll watch a couple
TV games maybe on a Sunday. But you know, for
a lot of these countries, this is it. And I
could see, you know, Messi's made a lot of money Elway,
(39:01):
and Messi'll make money for the rest of his career.
This would be a way to end on top. This
would be a way like John. I remember when John
Elway retired, thinking he's still really good. He wasn't as dominant,
He'd had a few injuries, he was a little creakier,
but it was like, you know, John was like, yeah,
I've got my health Stanford. You know. Then he went
(39:22):
into car dealerships and you know, eventually got into the
front office. But it would be I mean, if you
were his agent, forget the money part. If you were
Messi's agent, aren't you more of a legend leaving after
all these championships, the World Cup, the Copas.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, he could leave Argentina and still play in the MLS.
It is a weird time, though.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
We're right.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Elwai walked away wisely at the top. But it's like
Lebron's hanging on. When's he gonna hang When's it gonna
be the end for the Lebron's a little like Elway.
He's not as great as he was.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
But in any moment Elway in his last year, in
any second half or fourth quarter, he'd give you a
nine play drive and you'd be like, that's Lway. Like
Brady at the end, you know, even his last year,
you're like two minutes left, Tom gets the ball, he's
driving down the field.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He just didn't want all the workedouts and the training
in the off seat. You know, at some point that
same with Elway. Most of these guys like MESSI, I
want to play the games. I don't want all them
tune up for it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Kind of at the end of the major social media
superstar era, Messi, Ronaldo's near the end. Lebron Curry, even
Kevin Durant is like kind of sort of. I mean,
he's just not the same dude he was in the playoffs,
right Yeah, he's not winning anything. It's just a weird
time right now because social media pop with all those dudes,
and now here we are fifteen years later. It's like,
(40:39):
oh wow, they're all kind of getting near the end.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it's I was just watching some of the USA
Australia game. Our players are really good, never stacked, and
you know, I was watching for about two minutes. I
hope everybody appreciates. I am always willing to pivot on
a player, and Anthony Davis in the last year and
(41:04):
a half to two years has been so good.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I was trying to run him out of town.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Weren't.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You don't think He's never healthy. He didn't play through injuries,
he wasn't in good shape.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Only big trade chip. They have also a smaller one.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm not moving AD now, boy, I'm watching some of
these highlights. I'm watching it here in the back.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Anthony's good, but Joel Embiid's kind of finding foot. He's
not off to a great part.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I would take AD today over Embiid. And I know
all the analytic people say I'm wrong. I would take
AD over Embid.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, it's weird the analytic guys love Joel Embiid.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I will say this, Anthony Davis knows what he's not.
Embiid doesn't. And Beid can get in the way to
your perimeter game. Anthony Davis, they tried to force him
outside to shoot threes. He's like, I'm getting closer to
the ten and the last. I mean, I thought he
was the best defensive player in the league. Anthony Davis
has spent more time in the weight room. He was
bigger and stronger this year. Huh. By the way, didn't
(41:56):
get hurt this year. I think he played seventy two games.
I would take I know it's I know analytic people don't.
I would a d knows what he is and he
knows what he's not. MBI kind of thinks he's everything,
and sometimes he gets in the way of the offense.
I know it sounds weird for all his points, but
it does
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