July 16, 2024 • 41 mins
John dives into the three biggest storylines heading into The Open this week starting with the importance of Scottie Scheffler winning The Open for him to be compared to Tiger Wood, what we should expect from Bryson this weekend, and which Rory will we see coming off of his meltdown at The US Open. Also, John discusses Keegan Bradley being named captain of the Ryder Cup team and if that's the right decision, and should Tiger stop entering tournaments and not play anymore.
Lastly, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment.
9:13 - The Open storylines
10:45 - Scottie or Tiger
13:36 - What this means for Bryson
16:13 - Which Rory will we see
22:19 - Ryder Cup Captain
28:58 - Colin Montgomerie on Tiger
37:59 - Mailbag
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Middlecoff that's me go lo pod Last Major of the year,
Royal Troon across the Pond. US Americans we called the
British Open. They call it the Open. I think you're
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there's if you watched any last week, it's just so cool.
It really is. It's cold, the ocean's always in the background,
or tends to be, and it's just fun. And the
courses can be a little you know, some are more
lynxy than others. Royal Troon back in two thousand and sixteen,
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I hopped on here because I am podcasting that Phil
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he played the absolute best golf he possibly could play
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And hopefully that happens this week because we're going to
dive in some of the biggest storylines my betting card.
I mean, there are three guys I like a lot,
hint Ludwig Hatton Fleetwood. Ludwig, he might be the Bryson
of this week. I'll tell you that much. Also, just
some of just other stories going on around golf. You know,
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I was going to start just my overall love of
this tournament, but then I thought, you know, let's play
the hits here. And I think there are three major
story lines going into this tournament. First and foremost, he's
having a historic season. Many are comparing him to a
guy that goes by Eldrick Tiger Woods, and it's he's
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an elite player, it's his season. Once he got arrested,
went to a different universe. But I saw reports a
couple weeks ago, and people have talked about this on
a lot of the golf podcasts that him and Marikawa,
for example, are ten percent more accurate off the tee.
Why technology is stupid and I benefit from that technology.
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I mean with my swing I would never break eighty.
But because of the ability to hit these clubs that
even when you miss go straight or not that far
left or right, you can shoot much lower scores. And
no one benefits more than that right now than the pros.
Let's face it, the two best players of my life,
Phil and Tiger could not hit it straight off the tee,
could not do it. I saw someone describe Tiger there,
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you know the crazy thing about him. He sprayed it
all over the place in most tournaments, Yet the last
nine holes he would hit three wood and he would
hit two iron, and he wouldn't miss a fair way right. Well,
in this modern day golf, a twenty eight year old
Tiger would be hitting at three hundred and forty yards
and he'd be in the fairway the majority of the time.
But to me, for Scotty to truly be compared to Tiger,
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no matter what happens this weekend, he could miss the cut.
He's going to be the player of the year. It's
been well reported how much money he's already made. Hell,
his caddy has made more money than the majority of
guys on the PGA Tour, and new Slash caddies get
about ten percent of their player's earnings. I do think
he needs to win this weekend. Like you can't compare
him to Tiger, not when you factor in the equipment,
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because in two thousand, like Tiger's had seasons where he
wins multiple majors, and most of the great all time
players have had those seasons, and Scotty has a very
great opportunity to be in that conversation. But to do it,
you got to go across the pond and win. And
it's been well documented, Like, let's face it, Scotty might
win Augusta five times in his life. I mean it's
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very very possible, right what Phil's won at three times,
Tiger's won at five times. He's gonna play well there,
like that's going to happen and eventually he'll knock off
a PGA or a US Open. But is he gonna
win this weekend? That's what's unique about this tournament, right,
because the elements come into play, it brings in a
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lot of random guys into play. We've had random winners
over the years, and it a little like Augusta. Under
that umbrella of certain guys play Augusta really well. Like
Phil Mickelson at sixty year years old. Would it be
shocking if you like top twenty, right, But he's not
gonna top twenty at sixty years old. Hell, he's not
gonna make the cut, probably at any other tournament in
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the majors. I don't know how Live operates, but they
don't have a cut, so he will play into the weekend.
But you know what I mean, And I like history.
I've said it forever. I watch sports not for the randos,
not for the overachievers. Like I like watching Michael Jordan,
I loved watching Tiger Woods. I loved watching Tom Brady
and paid Manny. I like watching it for the great players.
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So I like watching Scotti Scheffler because every time you
turn on the TV, you think he's gonna win. But
when we talk about history and we talk about getting
in this like iconic class of Jack Arnie, I mean,
and Tiger, I'm sorry, you gotta do it this year,
and to do it, I mean, win this championship, and
who knows, if he doesn't get arrested on that rainy
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Kentucky morning, maybe he wins the US Open that clearly
threw him off, excuse me, the PGA, the US Open,
he was off shit. It happens right, it will be
no one will even mention Pinehurst if he wins this weekend.
But if he doesn't and he finishes like seventeenth great season,
he'll probably win the FedEx and turn into like an
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NBA player salary, like the guys that are gonna make
in twenty twenty seven when he makes sixty million dollars
on the golf course. But to be an absolute legend,
you gotta go to Royal True and win. The guy
who's got a chance to be a legend is Bryson,
and I think he is fascinating coming into this bad
boy because the live guys once a major ends, they disappear.
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Now Bryson doesn't totally because you can find him on
YouTube and it's pretty enjoyable to watch. It's very very entertaining.
But if you told me I could have anyone win
it this weekend, I'm not gonna put any money on Bryson,
but I think that'd be pretty fascinating. Now when you
look at his career rerec across the Pond, it has
not been good. Beside a t eight at the Open
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when cam Smith, you know, knocked off Rory. A couple
of years ago, which at the time would have been
the biggest bet I'd ever hit, would have made me
like six thousand dollars, and Rory couldn't make a putt
to save his life. Bryson finished T. Eight, but in
every other time that he's been at the Open Championship,
he's never finished better than T. Thirty three, So it's
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not like he has a ton of success, a little
like Scheffler, So like, I don't know, I just think
he's pretty fascinating this weekend because he's such a wild card.
If he's just playing at the level he's been playing,
you can spray it a little right at Open Championships
in general, depending it's a little like Pinehurst. She's got
to keep your fingers crossed and short game is huge.
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Short game is massive. What we saw at Pinehurst, his
wedges around the green are elite. And here's the thing
with Bryson, he's a really, really good putter. Now, the
thing with these courses in Ireland and Scotland, if you
watched last weekend at the Genesis, this ain't Pinehurst, that
this isn't Augusta. Greens aren't concrete because they have to
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play them a little longer and slower because of the
setup of these tournaments and because of the weather. I
don't know what else to say. Beside, I can't wait
to just see what Bryson does. And I think that's
where he's at right now in this sport. You could argue,
like Scott, he's got more on the line in the
sense of like he's chasing a true Tiger season. Bryson's
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just I gotta tune in. I said this about him
at the US Open, I'll say it about him this weekend,
and it's gonna be this way moving forward. As long
as he's playing like this, He's got a Barry Bond's quality.
Barry in his heyday in the steroid days that the
baseball riders hated it. You know who didn't us the fans,
us the consumer because when he came up to the plate,
we fucking turned it on and could not move and
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most of the time that ball went flying, and a
lot of them flew way over the fence. And that's
how I feel like with Bryson. The difference is it's
like he has the Barry power clearly. You know, whatever
he was on, he ain't on it anymore. But he
also was the touch. It's like he's a great like
slap hitter. He can and he can run, like he's
kind of become a five tool player. And last but
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not least, Roy McElroy and I watched a decent amount
on Saturday. He was playing pretty good. He looks pretty good.
I thought, like after a week past that that thing
wasn't going to derail him. That was the most biggest
letdown of the last couple of years, clearly for him
missing that putt and then Bryson hitting that bunker shot.
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But like Rory ain't twenty four, He's been through the ring.
I would expect him to play well this weekend. The
one pushback I would have. And this is just a
bigger picture with the sport moving forward. Some call it
an activity. I called a sport. Really one of the
only things I've ever been good at and you could
argue how good I am, but decent can beat the
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majority of players. Is that Rory said that when he
stormed out, and like, did he regret not speaking to
the media, and you know, essentially not what he said
was not at all like I don't He didn't say
I don't owe you anything, but you guys were the
least of my worries. And that's kind of the problem
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with the sport of golf, because after you win or
lose a Super Bowl, after you win or lose a
World Series. After Steph Curry and the Warriors lost three
to one to Lebron and the Cleveland Cavaliers, they talk
it isn't about the media, Like I got news for you.
The legacy media is dying by the day, so it's
not about them. It's about what they say and then
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what the fan gets to consume, because the fan is
the guy providing all the money to all of this
because of the TV that the TV money is providing
all the cash. And that's what makes everything interesting is
the agony of defeat. You know, we talk so much
about the triumph and winning and the championships and big
time victories. You could argue devastating losses are equally as interesting,
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could argue they're more I think I said after the
US Open, a choke job might be more fascinating than
a great win. The O seven Patriots losing to ELI
like they could not complete the undefeated season twenty eight
to three. Matt Ryan and Kyle Shanahan comes up all
the time. Obviously in the world of golf, John Vanderveld
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and Greg Norman. Greg Norman got a thirty for thirty
on that Masters, And I was young at the time
and watching it, It's like, God, that is pretty great.
Losing six shot lead on Sunday six shot lead. Now,
ry didn't lose a six shot lead. He had a
two shot lead with and Bryson had six I think
six or seven holes left and he had six because
they kept saying Rory as five. Well, Bryson was a
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group behind him. But like when you talk after that
and show your emotions, like that's probably the most fascinating
thing that could happen. Like what are you really gonna say?
Like what are Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown saying after
they win? Right, we've been together for this is awesome,
this is sweet. We're gonna enjoy this to grind all
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the stuff which they deserve to say. But like when
you look at the other side, like when the Denver
Nuggets lost in Game seven, like kind of want to
hear from Yogic even though he doesn't have much to say,
Like what's his what's his reaction? And like that's a
thing golf has to figure out because right now the
players control it. And I get it, it's an individual sport.
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But if you really want to become this entity that
they're trying to become like, you can't just run away.
Cam Newton after he got embarrassed in the Super Bowl
wasn't allowed just to run to the bus. It's not
allowed because in that business. We all have rules and
obligations in the business we're in that we cannot avoid
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because some make sense, some don't. But a lot of
them contribute to the vehicles that were in to make
the money. That's the whole point of this. Every golf
course in America, private semi privates, have these club championships,
and I got news for you, a lot of really
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good players play in them all over America. No one
gives a fly, And you know what about any of
them outside that little bubble because all of us on
the couch watching that us open. For as cool as
it was to watch Bryson after, I would have been
more interested to sit down and watch a Rory press conference,
even if it went two minutes and fifty seconds. It
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has nothing to do with the golf media sitting there
with their recorders, they're relevant to the whole thing. They
really are in terms of that moment, and clearly Rory
and all these golfers they just don't get that. And
in fairness to a lot of golfers historically, they've all
faced the music after and Rory didn't. And I think
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that moving forward like that, that cannot happen. It really can't,
because that US Open has to be one of the
biggest moments since Tiger won the Masters in twenty nineteen,
so over the last essentially five seasons of Majors. Now
twenty twenty was a little wonky, but you know what
I mean, could argue that's the second biggest moment in
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the sport. And you could argue don Tiger and Phil
like that's the most famous guy. He doesn't even talk
and that can't be the case. When Michael Jordan beat
Charles Barkley, guess what Charles had to sit there and
I hate face the music because it's not even about
the questions, just express his emotion, which is unreal for
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the people that literally just watched that. Their time provides
the compensation that all these guys get. So I think
we're Alway's gonna play well, I definitely think he can
win it. Now, you could argue you'd be crazy to
bet on him to win it, which I think is
fair because he hasn't won one in a long time.
But I think the conversation and the narrative that like
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it's never gonna happen, like bullshit. It's I believe it's
going to happen, and whether it's this year, next year,
in the next couple of years, if he keeps playing
like this. It was like Xander was like Xander's a choker.
Xander can't do it well. He's like top ten, top
five in all these majors, so eventually he's gonna win one.
And what happened. He won at Valhalla. The biggest news
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we didn't do a golf podcast last week, but it
was announced that Keegan Bradley is the captain for the
Ryder Cup and takes for flying Because I think the
biggest thing is no one saw it coming. Keegan Bradley
literally said, I had no clue till they called me. Now,
obviously in the golfing world, Keegan was front and center
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because last year he wasn't picked for multiple guys who
had not been playing as well. And the Old Boys Club,
Everyone's Friends, and then the Netflix show showing Zach Johnson
having dinner with basically Ricky jt And and Speeth and
their wives kind of hanging out, and it felt like
a rig deal. And obviously Keegan loves the Ryder Cup.
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I think in twenty twelve when they lost, he still
hasn't unpacked his bags. I think certain people are more
patriotic than others. That's just a reality of life, and
I think a lot of I guess I can only
speak from myself. When you have family members that were
in the military, and it'll change over time, right. A
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lot of baby boomers literally all their parents or all
their dads were associated wor World War Two. Depending on
your age, either your grandpa or your father was associated
with Vietnam. My grandparents both fought in World War Two.
My dad's brother was killed in Vietnam. Patriotism America, it
is obviously very associated with the military, is just a
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huge part of my family. I take a lot of
pride in this country because of the opportunities it's open
for me. I mean, my mom worked at the state
Capitol in Sacramento. My dad was a farmer, and because
of where we live. I just I was able to
work in football and now I have a podcast and
I worked in radio. Like It's just these opportunities that
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arise because of where I live are pretty special and
I don't take that for granted. And I have a
lot of appreciation for a lot of people, and I
admire a lot of people that take a lot of
pride in this country, and Keithan Bradley clearly does, and
this event means a lot to him. And the Zach
Johnson thing that happened last year was a there's no
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other way to put it. It was an embarrassment. And
it's why Zak Johnson at the Waste Management they were
lighting him up like a Christmas tree. And what did
he do? He snapped. He couldn't take it. You know why,
because everyone laughs at him and listen, it's not personal,
I think for most people. Even though when you you know,
if you follow the sport at golf, you say Zach Johnson,
you think kind of, I mean, a truly geeky guy.
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But to go over there to act like he did,
to build the team like he did, and just to
get smoked, it felt like a guy completely over his head.
That had no business doing that. Now, it's not like
Keegan was gonna be the captain of the team, but
it felt like one guy that would have just honestly,
Bryson's the same way. Like, let's face the Bryson's pretty
patriotic guy. And when I view Bryce's gonna be on
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the team, like, that's not even no ifans or butts
about that. But I like the selection a lot because
you had to go, you couldn't keep doing what you
were doing. And just like, well, who's another player who's
like forty eight years old that kind of played in
the Tiger and Phil Era, Fuck that fix someone different? Now?
Could you have picked like Jordan Speeth or Justin Thomas.
Those guys would probably deny it because they want to play.
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Tiger clearly turned it down, saying that his role working
with the tour, he just wouldn't have the time. And again,
like Tiger Wood's trained with the Navy Seals. Now, he
didn't pay for the cheeseburgers, but it means a lot
to him. Why dad Green Beret Vietnam, Like it's part
of the culture of his life and for him to
turn it down, I truly believe one day he's going
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to do it, you would think. But maybe he truly
doesn't have the time. Maybe he wants to know part.
You know, it's at best page, it's in New York,
it's going to be a pretty big zoo even though
it's home, you know, port advantage. Maybe he wants to
wait till Olympic Club in what six years to do it.
I don't know, but I would assume Tiger will eventually
be the captain. But I like picking a younger guy.
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I like picking a guy that I go this event
means everything to him. Like listen, JT and Speed, it
means a lot. Those two guys to me at points
in time in their life are Locke captains. And I
would put Keegan, not that he has this success they've
had playing in the Ryder Cup, but in terms of
their passion, Like JD gets a lot of credit rightfully so,
because of how much it means to him, how much
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energy he brings, how fired up he gets about the event.
It clearly strikes a cord deep in his soul. And
I view Keegan the same way. And I think anytime
you get someone like that, you have a chance. Now
it's you watch these euros Man. They're good, like Bob
McIntyre is good. Like the way that guy's playing Ludwig
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is a superstar. John Rahm, you would think eventually plays
better fleetwood Baller, I mean Lowry like they got a
really this notion that like, oh we're just gonna smoke them,
like I don't know, like those days are kind of over.
I don't. I don't view it like that at all.
Obviously we should win at home. It's usually what happens.
Whoever wins at home, whoever wins on the road. You know,
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I was listening to I was listening to No Ling
Up and I agree with their take. I think Sally
said this. You would assume that this he gets multiple
Ryder cups. He gets one at home and he gets
one away, and you never know if it doesn't go
that well, he Zach Johnson didn't get the hell out
of there. But I think it's exciting and I think
it's sometimes you can't always throw fastballs down the middle
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because it would have been easier, like Stuart Sink, you know,
Jim Furick, you know, just just just keep doing like, nah,
it is time for a change. You don't need a
huge hit. What the hell's the difference. Some would argue
that it's a little overrated as a captaincy, and you
could say that, like, guys just got to play well. Now,
clearly there's a lot of thought. There's the analytics that
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go into it. It's a really really big event, which
gets lost a little bit at the time of the
year because it's during football season. But if you love golf,
like I know I do, like many people listening this do,
it's hard not to just change the channel over there
and see what was going on. It was actually kind
of nice being during football season last fall. It kind
of ended immediately. Honestly, it felt like it was over
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during the first day, and that usually doesn't quite happen
like that. But we got curb stomped. And I don't
know if Keegan would have made a difference or not.
Bryce and I think surely would have. He's obviously a
much better player than Kegan Bradley. But just guys, now,
they were sick a lot of different variables. I think
it's cool, so props on that move. And last but
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not least, Colin Montgomery. He basically said that Tiger should retire,
that why is he out there playing in these events
when he has no chance to do anything, absolutely no
shot to compete. He's a dude, chat like seventy seven
eighty two. What's he He can't even finish some events?
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And I my pushback on this is, in what world
would any human being that gets to play anything for
a living stop doing it now? If if he can't
break ninety five? I get it, But like we've seen
him in the first couple of days, he can float
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around par I'm even talking separate from Augusta. Is he
ever going to compete again? That's basically impossible. He never plays.
It's why the report was it a couple of weeks
ago or a month ago that he gets a full
exemption into any designated events. It's irrelevant. He's not gonna
play any of them. Maybe best scenario he plays one
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of those. But if he wants to play, he's not
even fifty yet, who cares. And here's the other thing.
If he plays, people kind of pay attention. The expectations
now aren't for him to compete, aren't for him to
compete at all. I would imagine if he plays four
majors for the next three or four years, there will
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be one major on a Thursday or Friday where he
just gets hot. You know why, that's golf, and all
of a sudden you look up and Tiger's got three
birdies in a row. Now, he'll eventually, even if you
were to make that cut on that given major, probably
still finish close to DFL. But for that moment, it's
all worth it. It really is. And as the tour
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has changed, like they're never getting back what he was clearly,
I mean that ended years ago when the genesis flipped over.
But like he still kind of matters. He doesn't matter
nearly as much because he never plays, and the tour
has moved on and they've developed some new stars and
are trying to develop more. But yeah, man, I think
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that if he wants to keep playing, who gives a shit?
Let him keep playing. He's bored. What else is he
gonna do? Sit there and look at his bank account
like he can do that basically the majority of the year.
If he wants to business doesn't give him the high.
He's been rich for thirty plus years now, he's been
filthy rich for decades. I'm talking filthy rich. He's bored.
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He enjoys playing golf because it's true love all he
wants to do, and golf is not like Tom' stopped
playing football, not because he didn't like football. Tom Brady's
addicted to football still. Why do you think he's calling
these games on Fox? Hell? Peyton Manning same thing. Why
do you think he's developed this company and does Monday
night football? They love it, they're addicted. But in football
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you literally can't play anymore and you could get seriously injured.
In golf, what's the worst gonna happen? Shoot eighty two.
He's done that before. People are gonna laugh at him.
And I've said this before. I think he likes doing
it for a son because the son who's fourteen fifteen
years old, like gets to see his dad just fucking grind.
(29:17):
Because the older he gets, he's gonna realize, like, my
dad didn't have to do that. All I have to
do is go to wiki and look at my dad's
resume and go, Pops, dad, what are we doing here?
Because this is what we do. We got nothing else
to do, and we love playing golf, and all of
us if we were in that situation, because part of
Montgomery's thing was he looks miserable. Tiger's never really been
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mister happy go lucky on the golf course. That's not
really his style. Back when he was kicking everyone's butt.
He wasn't mister Smiley. He wasn't Ricky Fowler out there,
neither was Tom Brady. Even Tom Brady said this, I
saw what did you tell the pivot guys this? Maybe
it was going kind of viral in my reels when
I was doing a little board scroll like one thing
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he regrets a little bit as he got older, was
having a little more fun playing. I think he kind
of or who you are, like my personality at thirty nine,
I've matured as a human being. I like to think
of a better human being now, and I'll be better
in five years and I'll be better in ten years.
But like I'm not always mister happy go lucky. I
was kind of like that at twenty, kind of like
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that at twenty five, kind of like that at thirty,
Just like I've known some really happy people at fifteen,
at twenty, at twenty five, like they kind of just
state your personality is your personality. So obviously we would
like to see him have make more birdies. Making birdies
are fun. But even if he was I don't think
he'd be just fist pumping everywhere at this point in
time in his life. And part of the fist pumps
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were because he was winning, and the winning is never
coming back. So I got no problem with him with
him doing what he's doing. Okay, couple couple quick mail
bag questions at golo Pod. At Golopod, it's a Instagram
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firre in those dms, you got any questions because my bet,
I don't know if I mentioned this earlier. Here's what
I'm here's my parlay Ludvig. You can pick him to
win or top five. The bold play would be to
win and then parlay him with Fleetwood and Hatton to
top twenty. If you wanted to get bold, you could
go lud Big win top five or win and go
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those two guys to top ten. But I have a
hard time seeing Fleetwood and Hatton not in the top twenty.
The lud Big thing like, look at this guy. He
played like crap on Sunday at the Genesis finished T. Four.
At one point in time Saturday, at an engagement party,
I looked up who's winning by multiple shots and just
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Wheels came off a little bit. But Ludvig's winning one
of these things, whether it's this one, whether it's one
next year, like it's coming and it's coming soon. So
I like parlaying Fleetwood Hatton with something with Leudwig finishing high. Okay,
A couple quick questions. Are PGA Tour guys not allowed
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to try to have YouTube channels like Bryson? Feels like
showing your personality and promoting your own brand is a
no brainer. I'm pretty sure one of the big beefs
Bryson had was because when you are a PGA Tour member,
they own your media rights and that's how they sell
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the television package. So the Saudi's obviously have no television package.
That matters. Those guys can do whatever they want. Bryson
was not allowed to do that, at least when he
was on the PGA Tour. I don't know if they've
changed those restrictions, but it's pretty clear that none of
those guys do it. Now how many of them would,
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I don't know. Maybe it's not as strict because Wesley Brian,
the Brian brothers who play a lot with Horvat, they
they're pretty entertaining. I mean, they're elite players. Wesley's I
mean the hell he almost won a PGA Tour tournament
this year in George's damn good he has one. So
maybe they have loosened those restrictions. But I think they're
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very very serious about that stuff, very serious. I do
think they've changed the restrictions because I watched on on
the Brian's channel Wesley played nine holes with the Galla
at the Canadian Open, So maybe they've changed those rules.
And maybe it's just simply like is Xander or can't
Lay gonna get a YouTube channel? Scotty Cheffer are gonna
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create a YouTube channel? Part of creating a YouTube channel,
it's like part of having a podcast. Well you got
a podcast. And I think Scotty would say, like, I
don't have time to do that. One thing Bryce has
is a lot of time. Think of the other guy,
Like I think the Euros, like if Fleetwood Hadden's on Live,
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Fleetwood Lowry and kind of and Rory and that crew
did a little YouTube and it'd probably be pretty entertaining.
But get Bob McIntyre doing But I don't know. Do
you think that Xalatoris will ever win a major? Uh?
Once your back starts going, man, it's a major problem.
Those back injuries are. Remember Steve Kerr was the coach
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of the Warriors. The coach of the Warriors and got
back surgery and could not coach the Warriors, and he
said it's the worst pain he'd ever been in. Literally
had to take a year. Now, that was the year
that they won seventy three games, and he came back
late in the season. But I would say anyone that
has a bad back and has to get go under
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the knife, it's a problem. And I think I heard
Will talk about it. I mean, he's been pretty open
about it that they've tried to change a swing a
little bit to ease some of the tension off the back.
But man, I mean, which sucks because Alataurus excellent player,
fun player that was so much early success at these
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major championships, and I root for him, but it's hard
to be bullish on his situation. What's your prediction for
Scotty's career is from Christian I personally think he's more
in line with Phil thirty forty wins. How many winses
Scotty have right now? Twelve thirteen. It's pretty hard to
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get to thirty because this run is not gonna last
forever if he got to forty wins in this day
and age with the competition, and I get some of
the guys deflected to live, but defected, not deflected. I
think the major number is more realistic than like thirty
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five forty wins I think, I mean, look at Rory,
how mean wins is Roy twenty five? It's really really
hard to get to thirty wins. It's really really hard.
I could see Scotty, you know, health permitting twenty four wins,
but like six majors, six to seven majors, I think
that's a pretty good comp I think it's harder in
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this day and age to get the field career. I mean,
Rory won a lot of majors earlier. Like the tour
has never been better, and part of it is the equipment. Now,
once that equipment change happens, who knows does it actually
ever happen, because if it does, it will definitely change
the game. But you could argue if the equipment change happens,
maybe gets easier for the good players. I don't know.
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I mean, it's kind of a great unknown. He's just
hitting the ball farther than most guys and straighter, and
he's a great iron player, and he's like the best
chipper his short game sol e leader, and he's such
a good iron player. Maybe it wouldn't do much for
him in terms of uh like neutralizing his ability and
negatively impacting him. But if I had a guess right now,
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I would go to a serious guess. I'll go twenty
six wins so he doubles his career amount. I think
he has thirteen, and I'll go I think the major
numbers where it's at, though, I'll go seven majors. Rory's
got four. I think Rory ends up it's five or six.
(37:20):
I think right now you'd have to put the Rory
major over under it. Does he win one and a
half more? And I think you put the Scottie number
at like sort he got two at like three and
a half. T actually can become a lot easier to
scroll on Instagram for the mailbag. Okay, we'll end on this.
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The PJA seems to be lacking personalities like rom and Bryson. Yeah,
I mean they took those two guys for me. Bryson
is the most interesting golfer to watch because of his game,
and we know him from the social media presence. In contrast,
someone like Can'tley can't Lay has zero personality and the
tone sticking out is unwatchable. I'm sure the producers cringe
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when they do a close up of his face and
a stupid tongue out. The PGA tour needs more Bryson
and less can't Lay. I think everyone agrees with you.
I find the PGA and Live unwatchable. Majors are all
I pay attention to now because all of the big
names are there together. It's kind of sad. This is
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the overarching conversation with the situation. There's no way around it.
You need everyone back together. You need the boring guys
are fine, the great boring players. Xander's boring, Scotty minus
the arrest extremely boring, like extremely boring, and Xander Rory's
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a little more interesting. I mean he's way more interesting
those two guys. But for the most part, like he
quote unquote, I don't even want to say controversial. He
just started moving the needle little bit around Live. But
before that, like what was kind of boring? All? Like,
you need great guys, you need assholes. You can't have
any sport or any entertainment product with just unlimited, happy,
(39:13):
go lucky, easygoing, no controversy. Guys, you need some people
to push the envelope. It's like a television show. You
need characters you like it. You need characters you're root against.
If the only thing in a character in a show
is characters you like like, probably end up turning it off.
You need some people, whether it's a reality show, whether
it's a you know, Apple TV Presumed Innocence, good show
(39:34):
that prosecutors kind of an asshole. You find yourself kind
of rooting against them, but you don't know if the
other guy killed the chick, and you're like kind of
torn between. But you're emotionally moved by everybody. And I
think the one thing Live did a good job of
is take away a lot of guys you're emotionally moved by.
I remember being told this a long time ago in radio.
The key to success is never being indifferent, never being
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where they just don't care. They just have apathy towards you.
If the hate you or love you either way, because
guess what, not everyone's gonna love you. But if they
hate you, they might still listen because guess what, hate
is a powerful emotion and a lot of people hated
Patrick Red, a lot of people hated Bryson and now
they love him, but they have a strong emotional connection.
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John Rahm like, it's easy to see guy's a fucking
nut out there, but kind of in an entertaining way.
Same thing with Terrell Hatton. Patrick Reed is one of
the dude cheats. The guy cheats. Phil Micholson has gambled
hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars.
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When you say Phil Mickelson, everyone has an opinion. Now
he's old and he's not as important in terms of
his competitive ability anymore, but like he kind of matters.
Like I said with the Tiger thing, having Tiger just around,
like people are emotionally moved by the guy is like
you said with Can'tley, they're in a soul in America,
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beside maybe his wife who's emotionally moved by that guy.
Even Rory said, like, you know, on one of my
three putts, Canley just took forever, threw me out of
my routine. It's not really an excuse, but kind of
understand it. Hanley takes forever Xander. Xander's dad is more
interesting than Xander. You know why, because he'll talk some shit,
(41:25):
He'll say some stuff. He's got some takes, whether you
agree or disagree with them, needing to be paid for
the Ryder Cup, like he fucking has a stance on it,
you know. And guess what a lot of the live
guys did too, Like you need some guys that will
draw a line in the sand and be like, yeah,
I don't think it's right. And it feels like the
PGA Tour has a lot of guys like yeah, we'll
just kind of go with the flow. So appreciate the questions.
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Royal Troon across the Pond. US Americans we called the
British Open. They call it the Open. I think you're
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supposed to call it the Open, but I just call
it the British. It's some of my favorite golf. I mean,
there's if you watched any last week, it's just so cool.
It really is. It's cold, the ocean's always in the background,
or tends to be, and it's just fun. And the
courses can be a little you know, some are more
lynxy than others. Royal Troon back in two thousand and sixteen,
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I was reading an article today before I podcasted, before
I hopped on here because I am podcasting that Phil
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he played the absolute best golf he possibly could play
and still lost. And Henrick Sens she shot sixty three
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(03:20):
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watching it and they were just hitting just absurd shots.
It felt like both of them, it was like a
video game. And obviously Stinson one. Now they're both on
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dive in some of the biggest storylines my betting card.
I mean, there are three guys I like a lot,
hint Ludwig Hatton Fleetwood. Ludwig, he might be the Bryson
of this week. I'll tell you that much. Also, just
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I was going to start just my overall love of
this tournament, but then I thought, you know, let's play
the hits here. And I think there are three major
story lines going into this tournament. First and foremost, he's
having a historic season. Many are comparing him to a
guy that goes by Eldrick Tiger Woods, and it's he's
(06:36):
an elite player, it's his season. Once he got arrested,
went to a different universe. But I saw reports a
couple weeks ago, and people have talked about this on
a lot of the golf podcasts that him and Marikawa,
for example, are ten percent more accurate off the tee.
Why technology is stupid and I benefit from that technology.
(06:57):
I mean with my swing I would never break eighty.
But because of the ability to hit these clubs that
even when you miss go straight or not that far
left or right, you can shoot much lower scores. And
no one benefits more than that right now than the pros.
Let's face it, the two best players of my life,
Phil and Tiger could not hit it straight off the tee,
could not do it. I saw someone describe Tiger there,
(07:19):
you know the crazy thing about him. He sprayed it
all over the place in most tournaments, Yet the last
nine holes he would hit three wood and he would
hit two iron, and he wouldn't miss a fair way right. Well,
in this modern day golf, a twenty eight year old
Tiger would be hitting at three hundred and forty yards
and he'd be in the fairway the majority of the time.
But to me, for Scotty to truly be compared to Tiger,
(07:42):
no matter what happens this weekend, he could miss the cut.
He's going to be the player of the year. It's
been well reported how much money he's already made. Hell,
his caddy has made more money than the majority of
guys on the PGA Tour, and new Slash caddies get
about ten percent of their player's earnings. I do think
he needs to win this weekend. Like you can't compare
him to Tiger, not when you factor in the equipment,
(08:05):
because in two thousand, like Tiger's had seasons where he
wins multiple majors, and most of the great all time
players have had those seasons, and Scotty has a very
great opportunity to be in that conversation. But to do it,
you got to go across the pond and win. And
it's been well documented, Like, let's face it, Scotty might
win Augusta five times in his life. I mean it's
(08:26):
very very possible, right what Phil's won at three times,
Tiger's won at five times. He's gonna play well there,
like that's going to happen and eventually he'll knock off
a PGA or a US Open. But is he gonna
win this weekend? That's what's unique about this tournament, right,
because the elements come into play, it brings in a
(08:46):
lot of random guys into play. We've had random winners
over the years, and it a little like Augusta. Under
that umbrella of certain guys play Augusta really well. Like
Phil Mickelson at sixty year years old. Would it be
shocking if you like top twenty, right, But he's not
gonna top twenty at sixty years old. Hell, he's not
gonna make the cut, probably at any other tournament in
(09:09):
the majors. I don't know how Live operates, but they
don't have a cut, so he will play into the weekend.
But you know what I mean, And I like history.
I've said it forever. I watch sports not for the randos,
not for the overachievers. Like I like watching Michael Jordan,
I loved watching Tiger Woods. I loved watching Tom Brady
and paid Manny. I like watching it for the great players.
(09:31):
So I like watching Scotti Scheffler because every time you
turn on the TV, you think he's gonna win. But
when we talk about history and we talk about getting
in this like iconic class of Jack Arnie, I mean,
and Tiger, I'm sorry, you gotta do it this year,
and to do it, I mean, win this championship, and
who knows, if he doesn't get arrested on that rainy
(09:54):
Kentucky morning, maybe he wins the US Open that clearly
threw him off, excuse me, the PGA, the US Open,
he was off shit. It happens right, it will be
no one will even mention Pinehurst if he wins this weekend.
But if he doesn't and he finishes like seventeenth great season,
he'll probably win the FedEx and turn into like an
(10:17):
NBA player salary, like the guys that are gonna make
in twenty twenty seven when he makes sixty million dollars
on the golf course. But to be an absolute legend,
you gotta go to Royal True and win. The guy
who's got a chance to be a legend is Bryson,
and I think he is fascinating coming into this bad
boy because the live guys once a major ends, they disappear.
(10:42):
Now Bryson doesn't totally because you can find him on
YouTube and it's pretty enjoyable to watch. It's very very entertaining.
But if you told me I could have anyone win
it this weekend, I'm not gonna put any money on Bryson,
but I think that'd be pretty fascinating. Now when you
look at his career rerec across the Pond, it has
not been good. Beside a t eight at the Open
(11:05):
when cam Smith, you know, knocked off Rory. A couple
of years ago, which at the time would have been
the biggest bet I'd ever hit, would have made me
like six thousand dollars, and Rory couldn't make a putt
to save his life. Bryson finished T. Eight, but in
every other time that he's been at the Open Championship,
he's never finished better than T. Thirty three, So it's
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not like he has a ton of success, a little
like Scheffler, So like, I don't know, I just think
he's pretty fascinating this weekend because he's such a wild card.
If he's just playing at the level he's been playing,
you can spray it a little right at Open Championships
in general, depending it's a little like Pinehurst. She's got
to keep your fingers crossed and short game is huge.
(11:47):
Short game is massive. What we saw at Pinehurst, his
wedges around the green are elite. And here's the thing
with Bryson, he's a really, really good putter. Now, the
thing with these courses in Ireland and Scotland, if you
watched last weekend at the Genesis, this ain't Pinehurst, that
this isn't Augusta. Greens aren't concrete because they have to
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play them a little longer and slower because of the
setup of these tournaments and because of the weather. I
don't know what else to say. Beside, I can't wait
to just see what Bryson does. And I think that's
where he's at right now in this sport. You could argue,
like Scott, he's got more on the line in the
sense of like he's chasing a true Tiger season. Bryson's
(12:30):
just I gotta tune in. I said this about him
at the US Open, I'll say it about him this weekend,
and it's gonna be this way moving forward. As long
as he's playing like this, He's got a Barry Bond's quality.
Barry in his heyday in the steroid days that the
baseball riders hated it. You know who didn't us the fans,
us the consumer because when he came up to the plate,
we fucking turned it on and could not move and
(12:52):
most of the time that ball went flying, and a
lot of them flew way over the fence. And that's
how I feel like with Bryson. The difference is it's
like he has the Barry power clearly. You know, whatever
he was on, he ain't on it anymore. But he
also was the touch. It's like he's a great like
slap hitter. He can and he can run, like he's
kind of become a five tool player. And last but
(13:12):
not least, Roy McElroy and I watched a decent amount
on Saturday. He was playing pretty good. He looks pretty good.
I thought, like after a week past that that thing
wasn't going to derail him. That was the most biggest
letdown of the last couple of years, clearly for him
missing that putt and then Bryson hitting that bunker shot.
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But like Rory ain't twenty four, He's been through the ring.
I would expect him to play well this weekend. The
one pushback I would have. And this is just a
bigger picture with the sport moving forward. Some call it
an activity. I called a sport. Really one of the
only things I've ever been good at and you could
argue how good I am, but decent can beat the
(13:54):
majority of players. Is that Rory said that when he
stormed out, and like, did he regret not speaking to
the media, and you know, essentially not what he said
was not at all like I don't He didn't say
I don't owe you anything, but you guys were the
least of my worries. And that's kind of the problem
(14:16):
with the sport of golf, because after you win or
lose a Super Bowl, after you win or lose a
World Series. After Steph Curry and the Warriors lost three
to one to Lebron and the Cleveland Cavaliers, they talk
it isn't about the media, Like I got news for you.
The legacy media is dying by the day, so it's
not about them. It's about what they say and then
(14:38):
what the fan gets to consume, because the fan is
the guy providing all the money to all of this
because of the TV that the TV money is providing
all the cash. And that's what makes everything interesting is
the agony of defeat. You know, we talk so much
about the triumph and winning and the championships and big
time victories. You could argue devastating losses are equally as interesting,
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could argue they're more I think I said after the
US Open, a choke job might be more fascinating than
a great win. The O seven Patriots losing to ELI
like they could not complete the undefeated season twenty eight
to three. Matt Ryan and Kyle Shanahan comes up all
the time. Obviously in the world of golf, John Vanderveld
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and Greg Norman. Greg Norman got a thirty for thirty
on that Masters, And I was young at the time
and watching it, It's like, God, that is pretty great.
Losing six shot lead on Sunday six shot lead. Now,
ry didn't lose a six shot lead. He had a
two shot lead with and Bryson had six I think
six or seven holes left and he had six because
they kept saying Rory as five. Well, Bryson was a
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group behind him. But like when you talk after that
and show your emotions, like that's probably the most fascinating
thing that could happen. Like what are you really gonna say?
Like what are Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown saying after
they win? Right, we've been together for this is awesome,
this is sweet. We're gonna enjoy this to grind all
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the stuff which they deserve to say. But like when
you look at the other side, like when the Denver
Nuggets lost in Game seven, like kind of want to
hear from Yogic even though he doesn't have much to say,
Like what's his what's his reaction? And like that's a
thing golf has to figure out because right now the
players control it. And I get it, it's an individual sport.
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But if you really want to become this entity that
they're trying to become like, you can't just run away.
Cam Newton after he got embarrassed in the Super Bowl
wasn't allowed just to run to the bus. It's not
allowed because in that business. We all have rules and
obligations in the business we're in that we cannot avoid
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because some make sense, some don't. But a lot of
them contribute to the vehicles that were in to make
the money. That's the whole point of this. Every golf
course in America, private semi privates, have these club championships,
and I got news for you, a lot of really
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good players play in them all over America. No one
gives a fly, And you know what about any of
them outside that little bubble because all of us on
the couch watching that us open. For as cool as
it was to watch Bryson after, I would have been
more interested to sit down and watch a Rory press conference,
even if it went two minutes and fifty seconds. It
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has nothing to do with the golf media sitting there
with their recorders, they're relevant to the whole thing. They
really are in terms of that moment, and clearly Rory
and all these golfers they just don't get that. And
in fairness to a lot of golfers historically, they've all
faced the music after and Rory didn't. And I think
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that moving forward like that, that cannot happen. It really can't,
because that US Open has to be one of the
biggest moments since Tiger won the Masters in twenty nineteen,
so over the last essentially five seasons of Majors. Now
twenty twenty was a little wonky, but you know what
I mean, could argue that's the second biggest moment in
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the sport. And you could argue don Tiger and Phil
like that's the most famous guy. He doesn't even talk
and that can't be the case. When Michael Jordan beat
Charles Barkley, guess what Charles had to sit there and
I hate face the music because it's not even about
the questions, just express his emotion, which is unreal for
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the people that literally just watched that. Their time provides
the compensation that all these guys get. So I think
we're Alway's gonna play well, I definitely think he can
win it. Now, you could argue you'd be crazy to
bet on him to win it, which I think is
fair because he hasn't won one in a long time.
But I think the conversation and the narrative that like
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it's never gonna happen, like bullshit. It's I believe it's
going to happen, and whether it's this year, next year,
in the next couple of years, if he keeps playing
like this. It was like Xander was like Xander's a choker.
Xander can't do it well. He's like top ten, top
five in all these majors, so eventually he's gonna win one.
And what happened. He won at Valhalla. The biggest news
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we didn't do a golf podcast last week, but it
was announced that Keegan Bradley is the captain for the
Ryder Cup and takes for flying Because I think the
biggest thing is no one saw it coming. Keegan Bradley
literally said, I had no clue till they called me. Now,
obviously in the golfing world, Keegan was front and center
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because last year he wasn't picked for multiple guys who
had not been playing as well. And the Old Boys Club,
Everyone's Friends, and then the Netflix show showing Zach Johnson
having dinner with basically Ricky jt And and Speeth and
their wives kind of hanging out, and it felt like
a rig deal. And obviously Keegan loves the Ryder Cup.
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I think in twenty twelve when they lost, he still
hasn't unpacked his bags. I think certain people are more
patriotic than others. That's just a reality of life, and
I think a lot of I guess I can only
speak from myself. When you have family members that were
in the military, and it'll change over time, right. A
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lot of baby boomers literally all their parents or all
their dads were associated wor World War Two. Depending on
your age, either your grandpa or your father was associated
with Vietnam. My grandparents both fought in World War Two.
My dad's brother was killed in Vietnam. Patriotism America, it
is obviously very associated with the military, is just a
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huge part of my family. I take a lot of
pride in this country because of the opportunities it's open
for me. I mean, my mom worked at the state
Capitol in Sacramento. My dad was a farmer, and because
of where we live. I just I was able to
work in football and now I have a podcast and
I worked in radio. Like It's just these opportunities that
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arise because of where I live are pretty special and
I don't take that for granted. And I have a
lot of appreciation for a lot of people, and I
admire a lot of people that take a lot of
pride in this country, and Keithan Bradley clearly does, and
this event means a lot to him. And the Zach
Johnson thing that happened last year was a there's no
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other way to put it. It was an embarrassment. And
it's why Zak Johnson at the Waste Management they were
lighting him up like a Christmas tree. And what did
he do? He snapped. He couldn't take it. You know why,
because everyone laughs at him and listen, it's not personal,
I think for most people. Even though when you you know,
if you follow the sport at golf, you say Zach Johnson,
you think kind of, I mean, a truly geeky guy.
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But to go over there to act like he did,
to build the team like he did, and just to
get smoked, it felt like a guy completely over his head.
That had no business doing that. Now, it's not like
Keegan was gonna be the captain of the team, but
it felt like one guy that would have just honestly,
Bryson's the same way. Like, let's face the Bryson's pretty
patriotic guy. And when I view Bryce's gonna be on
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the team, like, that's not even no ifans or butts
about that. But I like the selection a lot because
you had to go, you couldn't keep doing what you
were doing. And just like, well, who's another player who's
like forty eight years old that kind of played in
the Tiger and Phil Era, Fuck that fix someone different? Now?
Could you have picked like Jordan Speeth or Justin Thomas.
Those guys would probably deny it because they want to play.
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Tiger clearly turned it down, saying that his role working
with the tour, he just wouldn't have the time. And again,
like Tiger Wood's trained with the Navy Seals. Now, he
didn't pay for the cheeseburgers, but it means a lot
to him. Why dad Green Beret Vietnam, Like it's part
of the culture of his life and for him to
turn it down, I truly believe one day he's going
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to do it, you would think. But maybe he truly
doesn't have the time. Maybe he wants to know part.
You know, it's at best page, it's in New York,
it's going to be a pretty big zoo even though
it's home, you know, port advantage. Maybe he wants to
wait till Olympic Club in what six years to do it.
I don't know, but I would assume Tiger will eventually
be the captain. But I like picking a younger guy.
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I like picking a guy that I go this event
means everything to him. Like listen, JT and Speed, it
means a lot. Those two guys to me at points
in time in their life are Locke captains. And I
would put Keegan, not that he has this success they've
had playing in the Ryder Cup, but in terms of
their passion, Like JD gets a lot of credit rightfully so,
because of how much it means to him, how much
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energy he brings, how fired up he gets about the event.
It clearly strikes a cord deep in his soul. And
I view Keegan the same way. And I think anytime
you get someone like that, you have a chance. Now
it's you watch these euros Man. They're good, like Bob
McIntyre is good. Like the way that guy's playing Ludwig
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is a superstar. John Rahm, you would think eventually plays
better fleetwood Baller, I mean Lowry like they got a
really this notion that like, oh we're just gonna smoke them,
like I don't know, like those days are kind of over.
I don't. I don't view it like that at all.
Obviously we should win at home. It's usually what happens.
Whoever wins at home, whoever wins on the road. You know,
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I was listening to I was listening to No Ling
Up and I agree with their take. I think Sally
said this. You would assume that this he gets multiple
Ryder cups. He gets one at home and he gets
one away, and you never know if it doesn't go
that well, he Zach Johnson didn't get the hell out
of there. But I think it's exciting and I think
it's sometimes you can't always throw fastballs down the middle
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because it would have been easier, like Stuart Sink, you know,
Jim Furick, you know, just just just keep doing like, nah,
it is time for a change. You don't need a
huge hit. What the hell's the difference. Some would argue
that it's a little overrated as a captaincy, and you
could say that, like, guys just got to play well. Now,
clearly there's a lot of thought. There's the analytics that
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go into it. It's a really really big event, which
gets lost a little bit at the time of the
year because it's during football season. But if you love golf,
like I know I do, like many people listening this do,
it's hard not to just change the channel over there
and see what was going on. It was actually kind
of nice being during football season last fall. It kind
of ended immediately. Honestly, it felt like it was over
(25:34):
during the first day, and that usually doesn't quite happen
like that. But we got curb stomped. And I don't
know if Keegan would have made a difference or not.
Bryce and I think surely would have. He's obviously a
much better player than Kegan Bradley. But just guys, now,
they were sick a lot of different variables. I think
it's cool, so props on that move. And last but
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not least, Colin Montgomery. He basically said that Tiger should retire,
that why is he out there playing in these events
when he has no chance to do anything, absolutely no
shot to compete. He's a dude, chat like seventy seven
eighty two. What's he He can't even finish some events?
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And I my pushback on this is, in what world
would any human being that gets to play anything for
a living stop doing it now? If if he can't
break ninety five? I get it, But like we've seen
him in the first couple of days, he can float
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around par I'm even talking separate from Augusta. Is he
ever going to compete again? That's basically impossible. He never plays.
It's why the report was it a couple of weeks
ago or a month ago that he gets a full
exemption into any designated events. It's irrelevant. He's not gonna
play any of them. Maybe best scenario he plays one
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of those. But if he wants to play, he's not
even fifty yet, who cares. And here's the other thing.
If he plays, people kind of pay attention. The expectations
now aren't for him to compete, aren't for him to
compete at all. I would imagine if he plays four
majors for the next three or four years, there will
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be one major on a Thursday or Friday where he
just gets hot. You know why, that's golf, and all
of a sudden you look up and Tiger's got three
birdies in a row. Now, he'll eventually, even if you
were to make that cut on that given major, probably
still finish close to DFL. But for that moment, it's
all worth it. It really is. And as the tour
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has changed, like they're never getting back what he was clearly,
I mean that ended years ago when the genesis flipped over.
But like he still kind of matters. He doesn't matter
nearly as much because he never plays, and the tour
has moved on and they've developed some new stars and
are trying to develop more. But yeah, man, I think
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that if he wants to keep playing, who gives a shit?
Let him keep playing. He's bored. What else is he
gonna do? Sit there and look at his bank account
like he can do that basically the majority of the year.
If he wants to business doesn't give him the high.
He's been rich for thirty plus years now, he's been
filthy rich for decades. I'm talking filthy rich. He's bored.
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He enjoys playing golf because it's true love all he
wants to do, and golf is not like Tom' stopped
playing football, not because he didn't like football. Tom Brady's
addicted to football still. Why do you think he's calling
these games on Fox? Hell? Peyton Manning same thing. Why
do you think he's developed this company and does Monday
night football? They love it, they're addicted. But in football
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you literally can't play anymore and you could get seriously injured.
In golf, what's the worst gonna happen? Shoot eighty two.
He's done that before. People are gonna laugh at him.
And I've said this before. I think he likes doing
it for a son because the son who's fourteen fifteen
years old, like gets to see his dad just fucking grind.
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Because the older he gets, he's gonna realize, like, my
dad didn't have to do that. All I have to
do is go to wiki and look at my dad's
resume and go, Pops, dad, what are we doing here?
Because this is what we do. We got nothing else
to do, and we love playing golf, and all of
us if we were in that situation, because part of
Montgomery's thing was he looks miserable. Tiger's never really been
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mister happy go lucky on the golf course. That's not
really his style. Back when he was kicking everyone's butt.
He wasn't mister Smiley. He wasn't Ricky Fowler out there,
neither was Tom Brady. Even Tom Brady said this, I
saw what did you tell the pivot guys this? Maybe
it was going kind of viral in my reels when
I was doing a little board scroll like one thing
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he regrets a little bit as he got older, was
having a little more fun playing. I think he kind
of or who you are, like my personality at thirty nine,
I've matured as a human being. I like to think
of a better human being now, and I'll be better
in five years and I'll be better in ten years.
But like I'm not always mister happy go lucky. I
was kind of like that at twenty, kind of like
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that at twenty five, kind of like that at thirty,
Just like I've known some really happy people at fifteen,
at twenty, at twenty five, like they kind of just
state your personality is your personality. So obviously we would
like to see him have make more birdies. Making birdies
are fun. But even if he was I don't think
he'd be just fist pumping everywhere at this point in
time in his life. And part of the fist pumps
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were because he was winning, and the winning is never
coming back. So I got no problem with him with
him doing what he's doing. Okay, couple couple quick mail
bag questions at golo Pod. At Golopod, it's a Instagram
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firre in those dms, you got any questions because my bet,
I don't know if I mentioned this earlier. Here's what
I'm here's my parlay Ludvig. You can pick him to
win or top five. The bold play would be to
win and then parlay him with Fleetwood and Hatton to
top twenty. If you wanted to get bold, you could
go lud Big win top five or win and go
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those two guys to top ten. But I have a
hard time seeing Fleetwood and Hatton not in the top twenty.
The lud Big thing like, look at this guy. He
played like crap on Sunday at the Genesis finished T. Four.
At one point in time Saturday, at an engagement party,
I looked up who's winning by multiple shots and just
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Wheels came off a little bit. But Ludvig's winning one
of these things, whether it's this one, whether it's one
next year, like it's coming and it's coming soon. So
I like parlaying Fleetwood Hatton with something with Leudwig finishing high. Okay,
A couple quick questions. Are PGA Tour guys not allowed
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to try to have YouTube channels like Bryson? Feels like
showing your personality and promoting your own brand is a
no brainer. I'm pretty sure one of the big beefs
Bryson had was because when you are a PGA Tour member,
they own your media rights and that's how they sell
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the television package. So the Saudi's obviously have no television package.
That matters. Those guys can do whatever they want. Bryson
was not allowed to do that, at least when he
was on the PGA Tour. I don't know if they've
changed those restrictions, but it's pretty clear that none of
those guys do it. Now how many of them would,
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I don't know. Maybe it's not as strict because Wesley Brian,
the Brian brothers who play a lot with Horvat, they
they're pretty entertaining. I mean, they're elite players. Wesley's I
mean the hell he almost won a PGA Tour tournament
this year in George's damn good he has one. So
maybe they have loosened those restrictions. But I think they're
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very very serious about that stuff, very serious. I do
think they've changed the restrictions because I watched on on
the Brian's channel Wesley played nine holes with the Galla
at the Canadian Open, So maybe they've changed those rules.
And maybe it's just simply like is Xander or can't
Lay gonna get a YouTube channel? Scotty Cheffer are gonna
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create a YouTube channel? Part of creating a YouTube channel,
it's like part of having a podcast. Well you got
a podcast. And I think Scotty would say, like, I
don't have time to do that. One thing Bryce has
is a lot of time. Think of the other guy,
Like I think the Euros, like if Fleetwood Hadden's on Live,
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Fleetwood Lowry and kind of and Rory and that crew
did a little YouTube and it'd probably be pretty entertaining.
But get Bob McIntyre doing But I don't know. Do
you think that Xalatoris will ever win a major? Uh?
Once your back starts going, man, it's a major problem.
Those back injuries are. Remember Steve Kerr was the coach
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of the Warriors. The coach of the Warriors and got
back surgery and could not coach the Warriors, and he
said it's the worst pain he'd ever been in. Literally
had to take a year. Now, that was the year
that they won seventy three games, and he came back
late in the season. But I would say anyone that
has a bad back and has to get go under
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the knife, it's a problem. And I think I heard
Will talk about it. I mean, he's been pretty open
about it that they've tried to change a swing a
little bit to ease some of the tension off the back.
But man, I mean, which sucks because Alataurus excellent player,
fun player that was so much early success at these
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major championships, and I root for him, but it's hard
to be bullish on his situation. What's your prediction for
Scotty's career is from Christian I personally think he's more
in line with Phil thirty forty wins. How many winses
Scotty have right now? Twelve thirteen. It's pretty hard to
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get to thirty because this run is not gonna last
forever if he got to forty wins in this day
and age with the competition, and I get some of
the guys deflected to live, but defected, not deflected. I
think the major number is more realistic than like thirty
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five forty wins I think, I mean, look at Rory,
how mean wins is Roy twenty five? It's really really
hard to get to thirty wins. It's really really hard.
I could see Scotty, you know, health permitting twenty four wins,
but like six majors, six to seven majors, I think
that's a pretty good comp I think it's harder in
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this day and age to get the field career. I mean,
Rory won a lot of majors earlier. Like the tour
has never been better, and part of it is the equipment. Now,
once that equipment change happens, who knows does it actually
ever happen, because if it does, it will definitely change
the game. But you could argue if the equipment change happens,
maybe gets easier for the good players. I don't know.
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I mean, it's kind of a great unknown. He's just
hitting the ball farther than most guys and straighter, and
he's a great iron player, and he's like the best
chipper his short game sol e leader, and he's such
a good iron player. Maybe it wouldn't do much for
him in terms of uh like neutralizing his ability and
negatively impacting him. But if I had a guess right now,
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I would go to a serious guess. I'll go twenty
six wins so he doubles his career amount. I think
he has thirteen, and I'll go I think the major
numbers where it's at, though, I'll go seven majors. Rory's
got four. I think Rory ends up it's five or six.
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I think right now you'd have to put the Rory
major over under it. Does he win one and a
half more? And I think you put the Scottie number
at like sort he got two at like three and
a half. T actually can become a lot easier to
scroll on Instagram for the mailbag. Okay, we'll end on this.
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The PJA seems to be lacking personalities like rom and Bryson. Yeah,
I mean they took those two guys for me. Bryson
is the most interesting golfer to watch because of his game,
and we know him from the social media presence. In contrast,
someone like Can'tley can't Lay has zero personality and the
tone sticking out is unwatchable. I'm sure the producers cringe
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when they do a close up of his face and
a stupid tongue out. The PGA tour needs more Bryson
and less can't Lay. I think everyone agrees with you.
I find the PGA and Live unwatchable. Majors are all
I pay attention to now because all of the big
names are there together. It's kind of sad. This is
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the overarching conversation with the situation. There's no way around it.
You need everyone back together. You need the boring guys
are fine, the great boring players. Xander's boring, Scotty minus
the arrest extremely boring, like extremely boring, and Xander Rory's
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a little more interesting. I mean he's way more interesting
those two guys. But for the most part, like he
quote unquote, I don't even want to say controversial. He
just started moving the needle little bit around Live. But
before that, like what was kind of boring? All? Like,
you need great guys, you need assholes. You can't have
any sport or any entertainment product with just unlimited, happy,
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go lucky, easygoing, no controversy. Guys, you need some people
to push the envelope. It's like a television show. You
need characters you like it. You need characters you're root against.
If the only thing in a character in a show
is characters you like like, probably end up turning it off.
You need some people, whether it's a reality show, whether
it's a you know, Apple TV Presumed Innocence, good show
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that prosecutors kind of an asshole. You find yourself kind
of rooting against them, but you don't know if the
other guy killed the chick, and you're like kind of
torn between. But you're emotionally moved by everybody. And I
think the one thing Live did a good job of
is take away a lot of guys you're emotionally moved by.
I remember being told this a long time ago in radio.
The key to success is never being indifferent, never being
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where they just don't care. They just have apathy towards you.
If the hate you or love you either way, because
guess what, not everyone's gonna love you. But if they
hate you, they might still listen because guess what, hate
is a powerful emotion and a lot of people hated
Patrick Red, a lot of people hated Bryson and now
they love him, but they have a strong emotional connection.
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John Rahm like, it's easy to see guy's a fucking
nut out there, but kind of in an entertaining way.
Same thing with Terrell Hatton. Patrick Reed is one of
the dude cheats. The guy cheats. Phil Micholson has gambled
hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars.
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When you say Phil Mickelson, everyone has an opinion. Now
he's old and he's not as important in terms of
his competitive ability anymore, but like he kind of matters.
Like I said with the Tiger thing, having Tiger just around,
like people are emotionally moved by the guy is like
you said with Can'tley, they're in a soul in America,
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beside maybe his wife who's emotionally moved by that guy.
Even Rory said, like, you know, on one of my
three putts, Canley just took forever, threw me out of
my routine. It's not really an excuse, but kind of
understand it. Hanley takes forever Xander. Xander's dad is more
interesting than Xander. You know why, because he'll talk some shit,
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He'll say some stuff. He's got some takes, whether you
agree or disagree with them, needing to be paid for
the Ryder Cup, like he fucking has a stance on it,
you know. And guess what a lot of the live
guys did too, Like you need some guys that will
draw a line in the sand and be like, yeah,
I don't think it's right. And it feels like the
PGA Tour has a lot of guys like yeah, we'll
just kind of go with the flow. So appreciate the questions.
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Let's have a good week, and let's enjoy the open,
the volume,
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