July 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin explains why Anthony Davis is clearly a better player than Joel Embiid as Embiid continues to struggle in his role with team U.S. before the Olympics begin
Bronny James is living up to his draft position after a breakthrough game in the NBA summer league
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go on eight Thursday. So many things
to talk and grumble about live in Los Angeles. It's
the Herd. I'm gonna roll up my sleeves here wherever
you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. It's a workday.
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I'm gonna roll my sleeves up. Jmax literally and metaphorically.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Right, you're rolling the sleeves up. You're getting in the mud.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Here we go, So a Jmac once again today we
have very light optimistic So Anthony Davis and Joel Embiid
are vying for a starting center spot on the Olympic
team that's going to be in Paris. Uh, you know
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it's gonna be in Paris by a week or two. Right,
I have the Olympics, and so he got these games
yesterday against Serbia and Embiid had the worst plus minus
of any player for Team USA. And Embiid you know,
France wanted him on there to Everybody fought hard for him, right,
and he goes. Anthony Davis, by the way, has been
very subtle about even being included. His quote was about
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the Olympics. I'd be happy to play if I'm asked.
And he has been an absolutely dominant figure when he's
been on the floor. But I've been I've said this
for years because the NBA is very much into esthetics
and style.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I get.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I get lectured for years about players. Carmelo Anthony is unbelievable.
He was a terrible defender, never in elite shape, a
complete isolation player, very few assists, never made a teammate better,
didn't do squat in the playoffs. I was told Derrick
Rose was going to dominate the league. A highly efficient shooter,
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more turnovers than I'd like, and hurt all the time.
I'm sorry he's not going to physically dominate the league.
I was told Westbrook's an MVP. I thought he was
a stat patter, bad hands, can't shoot for a guard,
hyper athletic, but played one speed and often out of control.
My eyes did not tell me that Westbrook was an
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MVP and Carmelo was an absolutely dominant player, or Derreck
Rose was going to run the league. And my eyes
are telling me the same for years. With Joel Embete,
I'm not denying he's got a shack feel to him.
But Shaq won in the playoffs. Shaq was dominant when
it mannered. I'm watching this Olympic stuff. Embiid gets in
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the way of the offense. Anthony Davis doesn't.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Anthony Davis took two shots yesterday and was the second
most dominating player in the game to Steph Curry. He
is literally jumps off the television set. And here's the
thing I like about ad and we've seen this for
years in Los Angeles. He can be a star and
dominate a game, but he's also an incredibly complementary player.
He elevates Lebron. Lebron doesn't have to worry about defending
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the rim. He can be a complimentary player on this
Olympic team, or he can dominate moments with Embiid, there
is no complimentary to his game. He forces you to
play his style, and so does Steph Curry. But I
get four titles, and so did Lebron. But I got
eight straight finals with Embiid. He forces you to play
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his game, but I don't get the payoff at the
end of the season. He gets in the way of
the Olympic offense. And I find sometimes watching Philadelphia. Yes,
he's productive. So was Zach Levine, and the Bulls can't
give him away. So was Carmelo, Anthony and Westbrook. They
didn't win in the playoffs. If you're talking about the
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greatest bigs of all time, Russell titles, Kareem titles, Shack titles,
akeem titles. EMBIID can't win a second round playoff series
in the weaker conference. So you know again, I'm willing
to sacrifice things. Lebron does this a little. You gotta
kind of build your team around Lebron, but in his prime.
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So what I'm going to the finals, Steph Curry, You're
gonna build some stuff and you're gonna have to sacrifice
a little defense with Steph Curry. All right, I'm getting
the like five six finals, I got four rings. I
don't get the payoff for EMBIID. Once again, you're lecturing
me on how great he is. Well great in the
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NBA is May in June. Who gives a rip about
January and Cleveland? I want May and June success. I
get it with Steph. Like Magic Johnson wasn't a great defender,
but I got the paff. He elevated everybody around him.
Magic could play center, he could play guard, of he
could do anything. Embiid, to me, is a great productive talent,
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but he's closer to the Westbrook Carmelo where I get
all this productivity. I'm lectured on how great he is.
I'm not sure he elevates anybody like Carmelo. You had
to kind of run the offense around him. He was
kind of a rigid player, but he was an isolation player,
a bit of a hole if he gave him the
ball and he couldn't defend well. Again, there's limitations to
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how much I'm going to sacrifice in life. I got
to get a payoff in the end, right, So I'm
watching this stuff. I'm watching Serbia, USA, Australia, US say.
Embiid is not as dominant a player, as important a player,
as complimentary a player as Anthony Davis, and I don't
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think it's relatively close. So you know, I've said this
that I think Angel reeson Caitlin Clark. The rivalry is great.
I don't need Caitlin Clark to win everything. It's a
magic bird thing back and forth. If Angel Reeves wins
Rookie of the Year, good for her. I like the
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back and forth. But I just want to tell you
that Caitlyn Clark last night had nineteen assists in a
game to set a league record. She's a rookie and
a bad team. She has scored or assisted on sixty
six points, seventy one percent of the fevers points. That's
the most ever in league history. She's breaking records every week.
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So part of the silliness of not allowing her on
the Olympic team is she was a very quickly improving
player and now you kind of look silly. She's arguably
the best playmaker in the league, arguably the second best
three point shooter in the league. I don't know, they
seem valuable Olympic competition and she's not on the team.
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But yesterday they also announced the skills competition for the
WNBA All Star Team, and she didn't make that either.
She didn't make the three point shooting contest, so you
argued she wasn't good for the Olympics. Your argument, though,
I don't buy it, but it was your argument women's
basketball that she would be a distraction. Eye roll. But okay,
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so isn't the perfect place to put her in the
skills competition where she's one of the best three point
shooters and she's a highly skilled player. So now, what
is it? Pettiness? Gatekeeping, insular dumb? If you're not gonna
put her in the Olympics, you're oh for one. Now
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you're not putting her in the skills competition, she quadruple
the ratings. Nobody's gonna watch that skills competition. They would
have highlighting Clark and other players. Thank god the w
NBA didn't go oh for three. They did find it
in their heart to put her on the w NBA
All Star Team. But she'll probably be at the end
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of the bench and struggle to get minutes, I would imagine.
But I mean, it's it's almost hard rooting for women's basketball.
You're you're like, it cracks me up how they treat her.
If you really think about it. They're trying to get
her to pay her dues. But she's the one paying
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all the fees. She's the reason you're flying private. She's
paying for everything, and you want her to pay her dues.
It's really ridiculous. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
But Bird and Magic came into the league and they
put them on everything. They tried to highlight them because
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the NBA was more secure in itself. They understood Bird
and Magic could elevate all the players, the league, the revenue,
the pie, the pettiness. You gotta get her in the
skills competition. What are you doing? You should have her
on the Olympic team. What are you doing? Last night?
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Got nineteen assists? Here she is on setting the record.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I just try to set my teammates up for success.
I think at times like I can almost overpass, and
that can maybe I don't know. There probably could have
been a few times where instead of passing that leads
to turnover that I may have. I can probably shoot
the ball, but especially with ab like I'm just looking
to set her up so much like my eyes are
just always on our post players.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
By the way, you know who is in the dunk
contest his rookie year, Michael Jordan. They got Michael Jordan
in the dunk contest. He didn't have to pay his dues.
Everybody was like, get that kid in the dunk contest, WNBA.
I mean, for years and years you wanted all this attention,
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we finally pay it. You have somebody that can absolutely
as a catalyst, get you more attention, and you're now
very precious. You're experts insula gatekeeping. You're exhausting, exhausting, and
I wore my optimistic shirt today. You wore your Dynamic
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Beach optimism shirt. And here I got to come in
with a hammer again today new NBA rule More Caitlin
Clark always skills Olympics All Star more, Caitlin.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
This is back to back days where you've come in
with a hammer to open the show. Is the heat
getting to you out here?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Goodness?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Do you need to take some more time off of me? Whoof?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
So?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's just so I yesterday Bronnie James actually hit a
couple of jumpers yesterday and Brown wild listen. He's he's
popular among young fans. It matters, you know, I mean,
if you're you know, he got drafted fifty fifth and
at fifty to fifth in a bad draft. Maybe he's
just good for merch, you know. By the way, that's something. Yeah,
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I mean the NBA. By the way, Caitlin Clark is
a star. They're suppressing her. Bronnie James, we're not sure
if he can play, they're putting him on television. It's
not hard to figure out why the NBA is the NBA.
So I want to talk about Bronny in his game
last night night, I kind of lined some stuff up
and it made me laugh. There's some funny stuff going
on in the Summer League, and we'll talk about that next.
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You're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible
Great Rates None of the bulls so lebron James had
twelve points last night. Early in the game at a
seven fifteen footer, Bronnie, Bronnie. The crowd erupted, Bronnie James.
Everybody went freaking out. Bronnie James arrived. Influencers love and
Mary's take a picture's of him. So for the record,
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he has struggled offensively. Bronnie James has in the summer league,
but the number two pick in the draft on Tuesday
went over fifteen from the floor. Alec sar the number
two pick high ceiling over fifteen with several airballs. So
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Brownie in a terrible draft. I defended as the fifty
to fifth pick. So just to keep score a little bit,
let's go to the second round of the draft and
let's take the player that was drafted right before Brownie.
How's he doing it right after? So the fifty fourth pick,
an Tom Watson is with the Celtics. He's had a
good summer league, ten points, five rebound. Celtics who draft
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well really like him, great front office, really like him
doing well. But he will be a g leaguer. The
player drafted right after him was hurt. So let's go
to the fifty seventh pick. It's all Rich chom Chi.
Four points a game. He is viewed very raw as
a g leaguer. So Brownie James hot cold, offensively, mostly cold,
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nice little defensive player, is you know, averaging about four
or five points a game and selling a bunch of merge?
Is it the end of the world? I mean, I
know in politics, clickbait bad actors make a lot of money,
but is this really worth getting worked up over the
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player before him, g leaguer, the player after him, hurt
player after that g leaguer, the number two pick, oh
for fifteen, much higher ceiling, but oh for fifteen. The
bigger issue for him is he's a six to one
and a half player and is not clearly not a
pure point guard, totally limiting his career. He is, at best,
to me, a middle to back into the rote defensive player.
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That's it. Smart kid, athletic, can defend. Never going to
be a fluid, natural offensive player, almost mechanical to me,
that's what he is. I'm sure his shot will get better,
but his bigger issue he's he's six to one and
a half and the Lakers don't trust him to bring
the ball up the floor. Now maybe they will eventually,
but he at some point, you got to be a
point guard at six one and a half. You can
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be a defensive point guard, but you got to be
a point guard. But the fifty fourth pick, the fifty
fifth pick, the fifty sixth pick, ffty seventh pick in
this draft, they're all G leaguers and I mean could
stay in the G League. It's as if the critics
are insisting the Lakers took him as a lottery pick
and are demanding and forcing him to start at point guard. No,
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that's not what JJ Reddick is doing. In fact, here's
JJ Reddick on Bronnie.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
He's a development player. That's how we're looking at Bronnie.
He's certainly going to spend time with the Lakers. He
will spend time as well in the G League. We're
going to develop his shot, will develop his ball skills.
He's already got a great feel. He has a really
good instinctive nature on the defensive end.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yes, he does. When you watch him play. He's got hops,
he's got some length, he's quick, he's athletic, got a
little bit of a football build. Almost He'll be a
defensive player, probably middle to back end of the rotation.
You have to remember, though, even Ray Allen came into
this league, he wasn't a great shooter. He developed into it.
I've always defended players who don't shoot early in their career.
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Very few players come into this league as brilliant shooters. Hell,
lebron James didn't have a lot of range, when he
came into this league. Michael Jordan was never a great
distant shooter. So I'm going to give Brownie a pass
on the three point shooting. I think, I mean, he's
going to develop into a better shooter. But he's athletic,
he's smart, he's a hard worker, he can defend. I
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think he's fine. But in this draft he's been basically
what we were told he would be. Limited offensively, good
defensive player, and a project. The biggest issue with him
is the one that Chris Brussard mentioned yesterday. Project is
the perfect word. You don't typically think.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Of six one guys as projects, but that's what Bridy is.
What is really telling Colin is the fact that they
almost never have him bringing the ball up like he's
a six to ones player. He's gonna have the guard
point guards. He's got obviously not the basketball IQ of
his dad, but a solid, smart basketball IQ, and.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yet they never have.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
They're not even attempting to have him learn point guard
at this point.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, and that's really the issue because that's his only
way to work in this league. He's too small to
be a five, a four, or three or a two,
but he can if he can defend the point on
a basketball team that's got scores at the two, three, four,
and five. Then you got a shot to be a
back end of the bench project g leaguer, maybe at
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some point a rotational NBA player. Jmack with a news no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No, this is the herd line news.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Your note on Brownie with like bringing the ball up
the court, he couldn't do that in high school. He
just didn't have to handle. They wouldn't full court press
him and ease. And that's that's basically a time issue.
I mean, there's there's you can't well. I mean he
grew up.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Let's face it distracted a lot of guys. Can I'm
not saying he didn't work on his game, but a
lot of professional athletes most don't come from wealth. And
so sports is a way out of a life into
a cooler life, right, and so it's you see it
in entertainment. You see it all over entertainment, could be acting, singing, sports.
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You know, not a lot of people grow up with wealth,
and so you have to go through a series of
years of discomfort to become great. Well, it is harder
when your dad's a superstar. Michael or Lebron Magic, they're kids.
It's different Tom Brady's kids. So there's not a lot
of discomfort for those stars children's lives. And I've said
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this before. Granite countertops and crown molding are the death
of aspiration. Your life's comfortable, you're going on vacations, you're
not grinding on a camp just to get onto the field.
So I do think quarterback's a little bit of an
exception in pro sports where there's a lot of dads
who played quarterback, their sons do it. That's not a
hyper athletic position usually, but in most sports you can
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go to Brazil and soccer, Argentine and soccer, they don't
come from wealthy families. And so my thing with Browny is,
you know, it's I just look at pro athletes and
all these countries. They usually are fighting through things. There's
a toughness, fighting through layers to become great. It's hard
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to fight for stuff when dads worth nine hundred million dollars, right,
And I'm not blaming anybody, but that's just the reality
of pro athletes.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, no doubt well said it is Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Clark's family wealthy. They could be, but I doubt it.
I mean, I did you know she's out there playing
basketball six seven years, eight years old, nine years old, she's.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Playing in boys leagues at that age.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's just the reality of pro
sports globally.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Yeah, all right, let's get started. Good news for Caleb
Williams and Bears fans. You always like to say, hey,
when you get new information, you change your opinion, And
I've changed my opinion on this Caleb Williams contract. First
of all, it's official, four years, thirty nine million dollars,
twenty five million dollars signing bonus. So what was all
the haggling about. And some of the reports are coming out. Okay,
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he wanted the Bears to agree not to franchise tag
him in the future.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, they refused to do that. But this is interesting.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Reportedly, Caleb wanted to be paid through an LLC so
that he could get his money tax free. In Illinois,
LLC's have zero tax filing requirements. Well that is smart
as hell.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, smart as hell. And here's the utter thing in
the nil money in calif I think you're able to
do the LLC thing. It's in Los Angeles. I mean specifically,
in California, but in Los Angeles, which has a lot
of entertainers. A way around to marginalize some of the
punitive taxes is creating s corps and LLC's and all
this stuff production companies, and so that's I'm sure he
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had an LLC in California to protect or limit some
of the taxation on his nil USC money. So he
probably wanted to try that in the NFL. Yeah, and
the NFL doesn't allow that, or everybody would do that.
I got to give it to Caleb. This is really smart.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
There's a difference between tax evasion, which is a felony,
and tax avoidance.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Tax avoidance is what anyone who's.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Smart, anyone who's going to be making money, you should
be doing. TAXI Like, how to lessen your taxes in
LLCES corp. Is exactly by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Your accountants are telling you to do this. They're suggesting
this stuff. So he is the first NIL superstar, So
I can assure you USC aligned him with a very
good tax avoiding entertainment attorney, which, by the way, I
have one. I'm sure you have one or will eventually
have one. That's what people in our business have really smart.
I have an entertainment attorney. I took the advice of
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Oprah Winfrey CEO years ago, Eric my buddy, to tell
me how to do it. And so that's what he
did in Los Angeles. So he's just trying to pivot
to the NFL and say, hey, I did this in
LA Can I do it? And they're like, hey, by
the way, you can't do it in the NBA either.
You can do it with shoe deals and production companies
as a player in the NBA, you can't do it
with your NBA salary.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Correct now. The other thing he tried was what's called
a forgivable loan.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
It's kind of in the weeds, but basically he was
hoping to get his money tax free until the loan
was forgiven, which could be like ten years later. NFL said, no,
that not happening. But I will applaud Kayleb Williams. This
is pretty genius stuff. Listen, really smart, it's very smart.
And also, this is what the Dodgers are doing. The
Dodgers are paying Otawani down the road so if he
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retires or leaves California later years, he can get money
in a less punitive tax code.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So like everybody's doing this. By the way, I've suggested
this has hurt New York because in New York, you
pay the federal, you pay the state, you also pay
a city tax. So a lot of times, I'm LA
has the same issues, but LA's got better weather and
it's an entertainment capital. I think this has hurt New
York in free agency through the years. This tax stuff.
It's why Miami is the one Eastern Seaboard team in
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the NBA where all the veterans want to go play.
No state tax, very pro business down in Florida.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, you would hope Orlando could somehow turn that around,
but they haven't been.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Able to keep their superstars all right.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Next up is Tua Tungova still waiting on that long
term deal. Colin Man starting to feel bad for this guy,
Tyreek Hills caping up for him, and now left tackle
Tront Armstead is pointing out how the team needs their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
They're going to reach their goals, so we.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Need to go anywhere that we're trying to go.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
All our dreams, goals and aspirations is reliant on number one.
And the Dolphins know that, the organization know that, and city,
the league, so the way they.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Are, not the numbers.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
All that negotiation gets tough. Tough in contracts, teams start
to bring up bad plays, bad games, injuries, You'll you
start to get offended, like, oh man, that's how you
really feel. What is leverage? And once you get you
peel back those layers and you keep it about the business,
it'll get done.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, he's gonna get his you sure, Yeah, I think
he's gonna get his. I don't think he's gonna get
quite the number that his fan voice want him to get,
but I think he'll get a number.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We're getting close to the end of the summer, right
and in August.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I think you're gonna redo your NFL teams based on
maybe some preseason.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And when is the Greg Twoey is one of my
producers I do about before the season starts. I usually
do four predictions. I do post free agency and coaching hires,
post free agency, coaching hires, post draft, then sort of
a pre camp, and then a post camp see if
there's any injuries. Yeah, I'm not I have I done
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the third one yet? Can I do the third one?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Because I want to know if you've got the Dolphins
in the play.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, so tomorrow I can do my playoff preview pre camp.
That means pre injuries because we have the free agency done,
we have the draft done, all the coaching done, and
we're also getting reports out of and signings for quarterbacks.
So that creates a little less chaos, some more foundational
good stuff for teams.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
So all the schedule, we've got this schedule.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's a good point. We have the schedules come out,
so why don't I do that? Tomorrow we will have
our well our third big NFL playoff prediction, and then
we'll do one after see if there's any injuries after
the preseason.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I keep looking at this Dolphins seaton, regardless of what
happens with Tua.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't see a path to the playoffs for them,
not in that division.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They're gonna score a lot of points.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Okay, to score a lot of points last year, and
then they made the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well they kind of backed in there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well they made the playoffs. I don't care how you
get into the playoffs. They I don't care if you're
back in, you topple in, you fumble in, you got
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I see all those cold weather games there at the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
End, No there. I will say this week thirteen on
is a it's a tough, slight doozy. It's a doozy,
but there's a lot of wins here for a team
averaging twenty eight a game, a lot of ws, a
lot of win How about Buffalo week two having to
go down to that swamp in Miami where it's ninety
four in Hughet Matt Miswell, just put a w on
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that one.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
I tell you, yesterday it was Josh Allen's amazing and
now he kept handles and in Miami, Come on, bro,
what is that?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
All?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Final story?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Let's go to Team USA. They beat down Serbia yesterday.
It's won by twenty six. We're now three and oh
tuning up ahead of the Olympics. Curry was cooking eighteen
or twenty four in the first eleven minutes. I had
a sweet four point play listen, guys, tremendous. Bam Outebayo
was awesome, seventeen points. I think he had three threes
and Edward sixteen. Your guy Ad went off us USA
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now heads to London for two more games Saturday, face
so Dan. The only concern I have over this absolute
butt whooping of Serbia. Is you know, the US is
gonna go into the matchup that matters in the.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Olympics and group play.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yeah, and they're gonna be like, we just smashed these
guys like twenty six, and they're probably gonna be a
little overcontident, and you know, we know what.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I find treat a little caution. I really like Olympic basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, I get all the stars and then I get
the patriotism, So a convergence of two things I like.
I like the big stars. They deeply care about playing
in it. I think it's pretty cool that all these
NBA guys who have one hundred and fifty two hundred
and fifty million dollar net worth love playing for the country.
They're into it, they're feisty.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Well, you're also going to Paris and you're going to
London's a nice little summer summer travel.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
My kids are going. They got some tickets. The kids
are going to Paris, and I told them bring sunscreen
in the hat. It'll gonna be And they're saying they're
saying that. I mean, I'll watch some of the Olympics.
I'm more World Cup than I think we're both more
World Cup than Olympic viewers. Olympic does a lot of
pad injury stuff I don't care about, but apparently it's
it's they're not selling a lot of tickets.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Nobody wants to be there. There's zero. We went to
Paris last year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
It's not my favorite city on planet Earth. I want
to go like every other year. That was no chance
I would go this year.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
First of all, July and August are the two months
you don't want to go to Paris. No, it is
crowded and it is hot. Awesome city though, it is
a great place.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I can't believe your kids are going. Wow Olympics.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They got some free tickets.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh wow, because you got hooked up.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Uh, just whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You're just such a big You're just moving in different
circles than all of us.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, No, I'm just I'm just moving in circles. I'm not.
They're not different circles. They're just circles. Jmack with the News, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Lie. I told both of them, I said, it's going
to be oppressively hot, it's going to be incredibly expensive.
It's going to be really crowded. Are you sure you
want to do this? My kids dipped into their savings
and they're like, all right, dad, can you uh? You
know they bought like you know, they got direct flights.
You know, it's you know, big airports where they live,
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and so.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Young people are crazy. You remember being young and crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, I know one of the things I've always encouraged
my kids get on planes very early. We got them
on planes. We've here's how airports work, watch the signage,
here's how to book your flights. We both you know,
everybody in the family, our kids travel and that was
one of the not always fancy places like this is
a big deal. Yeah. I mean a lot of times
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it's just Nowhereville. But I would say is I'm I'm
a huge fan of traveling. By the way, mister airport guy,
how's the Charles Degaul Airport?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Is that the one in uh?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
That's the one in Paris?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, how is it?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You're the one that went there the last year?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I don't remember, but he throw in London is awesome.
That airport is tremendous. I can't believe it didn't make
your list.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I don't. I don't like he thrown nearly as much
as Wow. Now, there's a lot of good airports in
this country. You know, the best airport in the countries Actually, Indianapolis.
Doesn't mean I want to go there a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You expect me to leave that nuts. Really, that's the
best airport of the country.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, the best one I've been in. Big city airports
are all a pain in the butt. They're all awful,
I mean, lax. It's fine.
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You ever heard the term unintent consequences. You have this
all the time, and anybody listening to me that owns
a business, there's probably something that happened after you started
owning the business. You had an unintended benefit or a consequence.
If those tear your company down, it's not a very
(30:19):
good company. But there are times I'll give you an
example golf. I golf in the summer. I don't do
it much in the winter. I'm too busy fall winter football.
But in the summer I'll go golf. The unintended benefit
of golf that I never really thought about is a
lot of business people golf, and over the course of time,
I have met people the last twenty years golfing that
(30:39):
I would have never met uh and had opportunities because
of that that I never really thought about. I just
like going with buddies and golfing. I like being outside.
I like the sun, maybe light up a cigar in.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
The back nine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I never really thought, oh it's it'd be some business
opportunities when I'm golf and even in the summer. I
never thought about it. But it can happen. So you
hear this all the time. Unintend benefits of a business.
Those are cool, and sometimes there's unintended consequences, but they
don't make or break a business, and if they do,
he didn't have a very good business. So I've always
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I've been hearing this in the last couple of years.
As we move into a college football season with a
twelve team playoff, there are going to be unintended consequences.
Oh boy, So here's a guy I like, but he's
old school, he's a traditionalist. Dabos twinty says, with a
twelve team playoff, what if players start taking day games
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off right before the playoff?
Speaker 11 (31:38):
See you guys opting out of bowl games and things
like that. You'll probably see some guys if you're four
and four and probably out of the playoffs, probably see
some guys head off to Arizona and train. You know,
it's probably an unintended consequence. Maybe you're eleven to zero
and you got that rivalry game, but oh, you play
your biggest foe next week in the conference championship, and
(32:00):
if you win that game, you're gonna get a bye.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
So those are things that are probably decisions you'll see
play out all throughout college football.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Okay, well, that happens in the NFL, as he noted,
does it hurt the sport? Really? You know, I love
the NFL, but they rest at a right tackle in
week sixteen. I'm turning my television off. Okay, listen, there's
one hundred and thirty four Division one programs, but there's
(32:31):
only sixty eight in the Power four. And those are
the big boy programs that win titles of all those games.
For those concerned about the unintended consequence that rivalry games
won't be as big, like Bama Auburn is gonna someday
not matter. Do you know how many rivalry games move
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the needle with ratings Michigan, Ohio, State, Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC, Army, Navy,
and sometimes Auburn Alabama five games. College football has a
lot of older fans and their demographic. They love tradition,
they love ritual, they love tailgating with their old buddies.
I love that too, and there'll be plenty of that
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that will all still exist. But now you're adding eleven
playoff games to those rivalries. And if the rivalries sometimes
they're not all played in the last week. By the way,
Notre Dame USC does know what's playing the last week.
Sometimes they play in the middle of the season. Texas
Oklahoma's middle of the season, Michigan Ohio State's at the end.
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But a lot of those rivalry games are in the
middle of the season. Most will still be huge, and
if one or two aren't quite as huge, they may
meet to get in the playoff and they'll be bigger
than they are now. You don't think Michigan Ohio State
meeting in a twelve team playoff for the right to
go to the championships bigger than the annual meeting. Damn straight,
(33:53):
it will be. So you know I say this, Clemson
just had its worst seat in a long time. Why
because Dabbo a guy like his old school, and he
doesn't want to do the nil. He doesn't want to
do the transfer portal. They have lost fifty players at
Clemson since the portal started and gained two. And Clemson
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isn't as good today as five years ago. Adapter Die
nil's going nowhere. Transfer portal's going nowhere. Twelve team playoff
going nowhere. We just had the highest rated college football
season ever. And be honest, about ninety percent of you
were belly achin about the transfer portal and the nil
(34:38):
ruling the sport. I had friends pouting, telling me, I
will never watch college football. It's just pro football now, No,
it's not kids go to school, it's not NFL football,
and it just had its highest ratings many people in America.
Forty percent of people in America never leave their area code.
(34:58):
I get it. Some of you don't like It's okay,
but rivalries are going to exist. Michigan, Ohio State Army
Navy is going to be big for the rest of
our lives. And now you ad a march madness at
the end of the rivalries. Yeah, I'm here for it.
I think we're all gonna be okay. You know. I
mean again, there are communities in America that don't embrace technology.
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There are not only consequences of that, but limitations in
that lifestyle. So you know, and I just I hear
this all the time. Well, I started a company three
years ago. There have been some unintended benefits to it.
I didn't think about much that I've really met amazing
young people. I mean, I knew I could hire people,
(35:43):
but you become friends with people and rely on young
Vietles really cool, and there's some consequences. I don't have
the time I once did certain times to see something
he or something that now I gotta work, okay, but
neither one is destroying my life or taking it to
a place it's never been. So take a deep breath.
College football is gonna be amazing. Auburn Alabama may not
(36:05):
feel as big, quite as big, but if Auburn makes
the playoff, Alabama will for sure with Kaylin to Boord,
they're gonna be in that puppy every year. But if
Auburn makes the playoff, you're gonna forget about Auburn Alabama.
If you're playing Ohio State for a right to play
for the championship, that Bama game's in the rearview mirror,
you're gonna be good with it. And I like Dabo,
(36:27):
but he had one quote yesterday. I saw this. It
said Dabbo used to say he was in favor of
returning to the BCS era Tabo. You had algorithms and
computers deciding the national championship teams. Now I don't miss
that at all. And we were talking about this yesterday. Overwhelmingly,
sports is so much better today when I hear all
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these people at these conventions. Oh the crime is up. No,
it's actually down. It's actually the America's terrible stock markets
at an all time high. All the inflation coming down,
gas price is coming down, Unemployment historic low. Everybody belly
aches about everything because negativity gets more attention than optimism
(37:10):
and positivity. You know what I mean. It's much easier
to build a tech talker, an IG or an X
platform saying the world's gonna end. It's not. I mean,
all I see on this is AI stories. How AI
is going to destroy the world. Does everybody understand the
medical advances that are already happening now because of AI,
(37:32):
Like lives potentially in your family will be saved over
the next decade because of AI. Yeah, and they'll probably
create a freaky robot somewhere that'll all scare us a
little bit. It's not gonna end the world. We're all
gonna be okay. But I know this because of what
I do for a living. Negative YouTube comments, negative opinion
drives more coverage, and so take a deep breath. Turn
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the phone off occasionally where all college football is going
to be great, if I have to hear another person
say I'm turning it off because of the nil and
transfer portal. Give me a break. Have you moved in
your life. I've moved several times. Why can't a player move?
Coaches leave programs? Why can't players leave programs? And by
the way, tell me about eight percent of the players
(38:16):
that are leaving programs anyway, and they're guys that weren't
starting for your team. They're disgruntled. They go to another place,
and they often transfer another time. Very few of these
transfer guys have met. USC has lived off the transfer portal.
Two players have mattered, Jordan Addison and Caleb Williams. They've
had sixty transfers, two of mattered. So it's not changing
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the sport. When I turn on Saturday Football and I
watch Michigan, I don't know if it's nineteen eighty or
it's twenty twenty three. It looks like Michigan to me,
I got a hard ball, I got a physical football team.
I got the uniforms, the ban, I got the stadium,
I got Victor's. It looks the same to me. What
do I care if they got a cornerback from Cincinnati
that came to a portal, What do I care? What
(38:58):
do I care if the left tackle makes three hundred
thousand dollars a year. What do I care? It's good
on television. See this is the this is my I'm
wearing an optimistic shirt today. That's where all this optimism
comes from. The world's not ending. We're going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The world is not.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Come on, you got a traffic in.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
The fear mongering that's like so popular now right now,
you just got to scare people.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Hey man, someone's coming to take your job. Sooner or later, Collins.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You know what, you know what, in a few years
they can have it. You think you're taking it, I'll
give it to you.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's the outlook. But the fear mongering, you're right, it's.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
How about you and Dabbo, didn't you guys have a
good relationship.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I like him, Yeah, I would. I think he's I
think he's got a good sense of humor. I think
he's a great coach. But you can, you can stop
worrying about this. They got to get in the transfer portal.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
And you know why he wants to go back to
the BCS era because they were winning more well, because it's.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
An easy path for them.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
They don't play anybody.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
You know now you got this playoff, you got to
go through several good teams like they used to have
a free ride Clemson.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, well the ACC is not good and.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
They lost Shawn Watson, who is oh my gosh Lawrence.
You remember how good he was against Alabama those two games.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Listen, they had back to back to had the Deshaun
Watson Trevor Lawrence for about a seven year period or
six year period. They were beating Bama and didn't have
the recruits of Bama. They've never had Alabama Georgia level,
Ohio state level recruited defenses. But yeah, okay, second hour
coming up, we got a Eric Musselman, a fascinating guy
is gonna be is he in studio? I can't wait
(40:25):
for that today, USC's new coach. Guy knows a lot
about the NBA college. He's got a million opinions on everything.
He'll be joining us today as well. Hour two next
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go on eight Thursday. So many things
to talk and grumble about live in Los Angeles. It's
the Herd. I'm gonna roll up my sleeves here wherever
you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. It's a workday.
(00:47):
It's not a dress up day. It's a work day.
I'm gonna roll my sleeves up. Jmax literally and metaphorically.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Right, you're rolling the sleeves up. You're getting in the mud.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Here we go, So a Jmac once again today we
have very light optimistic So Anthony Davis and Joel Embiid
are vying for a starting center spot on the Olympic
team that's going to be in Paris. Uh, you know
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it's gonna be in Paris by a week or two. Right,
I have the Olympics, and so he got these games
yesterday against Serbia and Embiid had the worst plus minus
of any player for Team USA. And Embiid you know,
France wanted him on there to Everybody fought hard for him, right,
and he goes. Anthony Davis, by the way, has been
very subtle about even being included. His quote was about
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the Olympics. I'd be happy to play if I'm asked.
And he has been an absolutely dominant figure when he's
been on the floor. But I've been I've said this
for years because the NBA is very much into esthetics
and style.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I get.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I get lectured for years about players. Carmelo Anthony is unbelievable.
He was a terrible defender, never in elite shape, a
complete isolation player, very few assists, never made a teammate better,
didn't do squat in the playoffs. I was told Derrick
Rose was going to dominate the league. A highly efficient shooter,
(02:23):
more turnovers than I'd like, and hurt all the time.
I'm sorry he's not going to physically dominate the league.
I was told Westbrook's an MVP. I thought he was
a stat patter, bad hands, can't shoot for a guard,
hyper athletic, but played one speed and often out of control.
My eyes did not tell me that Westbrook was an
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MVP and Carmelo was an absolutely dominant player, or Derreck
Rose was going to run the league. And my eyes
are telling me the same for years. With Joel Embete,
I'm not denying he's got a shack feel to him.
But Shaq won in the playoffs. Shaq was dominant when
it mannered. I'm watching this Olympic stuff. Embiid gets in
(03:07):
the way of the offense. Anthony Davis doesn't.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Anthony Davis took two shots yesterday and was the second
most dominating player in the game to Steph Curry. He
is literally jumps off the television set. And here's the
thing I like about ad and we've seen this for
years in Los Angeles. He can be a star and
dominate a game, but he's also an incredibly complementary player.
He elevates Lebron. Lebron doesn't have to worry about defending
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the rim. He can be a complimentary player on this
Olympic team, or he can dominate moments with Embiid, there
is no complimentary to his game. He forces you to
play his style, and so does Steph Curry. But I
get four titles, and so did Lebron. But I got
eight straight finals with Embiid. He forces you to play
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his game, but I don't get the payoff at the
end of the season. He gets in the way of
the Olympic offense. And I find sometimes watching Philadelphia. Yes,
he's productive. So was Zach Levine, and the Bulls can't
give him away. So was Carmelo, Anthony and Westbrook. They
didn't win in the playoffs. If you're talking about the
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greatest bigs of all time, Russell titles, Kareem titles, Shack titles,
akeem titles. EMBIID can't win a second round playoff series
in the weaker conference. So you know again, I'm willing
to sacrifice things. Lebron does this a little. You gotta
kind of build your team around Lebron, but in his prime.
(04:40):
So what I'm going to the finals, Steph Curry, You're
gonna build some stuff and you're gonna have to sacrifice
a little defense with Steph Curry. All right, I'm getting
the like five six finals, I got four rings. I
don't get the payoff for EMBIID. Once again, you're lecturing
me on how great he is. Well great in the
(05:00):
NBA is May in June. Who gives a rip about
January and Cleveland? I want May and June success. I
get it with Steph. Like Magic Johnson wasn't a great defender,
but I got the paff. He elevated everybody around him.
Magic could play center, he could play guard, of he
could do anything. Embiid, to me, is a great productive talent,
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but he's closer to the Westbrook Carmelo where I get
all this productivity. I'm lectured on how great he is.
I'm not sure he elevates anybody like Carmelo. You had
to kind of run the offense around him. He was
kind of a rigid player, but he was an isolation player,
a bit of a hole if he gave him the
ball and he couldn't defend well. Again, there's limitations to
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how much I'm going to sacrifice in life. I got
to get a payoff in the end, right, So I'm
watching this stuff. I'm watching Serbia, USA, Australia, US say.
Embiid is not as dominant a player, as important a player,
as complimentary a player as Anthony Davis, and I don't
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think it's relatively close. So you know, I've said this
that I think Angel reeson Caitlin Clark. The rivalry is great.
I don't need Caitlin Clark to win everything. It's a
magic bird thing back and forth. If Angel Reeves wins
Rookie of the Year, good for her. I like the
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back and forth. But I just want to tell you
that Caitlyn Clark last night had nineteen assists in a
game to set a league record. She's a rookie and
a bad team. She has scored or assisted on sixty
six points, seventy one percent of the fevers points. That's
the most ever in league history. She's breaking records every week.
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So part of the silliness of not allowing her on
the Olympic team is she was a very quickly improving
player and now you kind of look silly. She's arguably
the best playmaker in the league, arguably the second best
three point shooter in the league. I don't know, they
seem valuable Olympic competition and she's not on the team.
(07:15):
But yesterday they also announced the skills competition for the
WNBA All Star Team, and she didn't make that either.
She didn't make the three point shooting contest, so you
argued she wasn't good for the Olympics. Your argument, though,
I don't buy it, but it was your argument women's
basketball that she would be a distraction. Eye roll. But okay,
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so isn't the perfect place to put her in the
skills competition where she's one of the best three point
shooters and she's a highly skilled player. So now, what
is it? Pettiness? Gatekeeping, insular dumb? If you're not gonna
put her in the Olympics, you're oh for one. Now
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you're not putting her in the skills competition, she quadruple
the ratings. Nobody's gonna watch that skills competition. They would
have highlighting Clark and other players. Thank god the w
NBA didn't go oh for three. They did find it
in their heart to put her on the w NBA
All Star Team. But she'll probably be at the end
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of the bench and struggle to get minutes, I would imagine.
But I mean, it's it's almost hard rooting for women's basketball.
You're you're like, it cracks me up how they treat her.
If you really think about it. They're trying to get
her to pay her dues. But she's the one paying
(08:46):
all the fees. She's the reason you're flying private. She's
paying for everything, and you want her to pay her dues.
It's really ridiculous. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
But Bird and Magic came into the league and they
put them on everything. They tried to highlight them because
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the NBA was more secure in itself. They understood Bird
and Magic could elevate all the players, the league, the revenue,
the pie, the pettiness. You gotta get her in the
skills competition. What are you doing? You should have her
on the Olympic team. What are you doing? Last night?
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Got nineteen assists? Here she is on setting the record.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I just try to set my teammates up for success.
I think at times like I can almost overpass, and
that can maybe I don't know. There probably could have
been a few times where instead of passing that leads
to turnover that I may have. I can probably shoot
the ball, but especially with ab like I'm just looking
to set her up so much like my eyes are
just always on our post players.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
By the way, you know who is in the dunk
contest his rookie year, Michael Jordan. They got Michael Jordan
in the dunk contest. He didn't have to pay his dues.
Everybody was like, get that kid in the dunk contest, WNBA.
I mean, for years and years you wanted all this attention,
(10:13):
we finally pay it. You have somebody that can absolutely
as a catalyst, get you more attention, and you're now
very precious. You're experts insula gatekeeping. You're exhausting, exhausting, and
I wore my optimistic shirt today. You wore your Dynamic
(10:36):
Beach optimism shirt. And here I got to come in
with a hammer again today new NBA rule More Caitlin
Clark always skills Olympics All Star more, Caitlin.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
This is back to back days where you've come in
with a hammer to open the show. Is the heat
getting to you out here?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Goodness?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Do you need to take some more time off of me? Whoof?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
So?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's just so I yesterday Bronnie James actually hit a
couple of jumpers yesterday and Brown wild listen. He's he's
popular among young fans. It matters, you know, I mean,
if you're you know, he got drafted fifty fifth and
at fifty to fifth in a bad draft. Maybe he's
just good for merch, you know. By the way, that's something. Yeah,
(11:20):
I mean the NBA. By the way, Caitlin Clark is
a star. They're suppressing her. Bronnie James, we're not sure
if he can play, they're putting him on television. It's
not hard to figure out why the NBA is the NBA.
So I want to talk about Bronny in his game
last night night, I kind of lined some stuff up
and it made me laugh. There's some funny stuff going
on in the Summer League, and we'll talk about that next.
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You're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible
Great Rates None of the bulls so lebron James had
twelve points last night. Early in the game at a
seven fifteen footer, Bronnie, Bronnie. The crowd erupted, Bronnie James.
Everybody went freaking out. Bronnie James arrived. Influencers love and
Mary's take a picture's of him. So for the record,
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he has struggled offensively. Bronnie James has in the summer league,
but the number two pick in the draft on Tuesday
went over fifteen from the floor. Alec sar the number
two pick high ceiling over fifteen with several airballs. So
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Brownie in a terrible draft. I defended as the fifty
to fifth pick. So just to keep score a little bit,
let's go to the second round of the draft and
let's take the player that was drafted right before Brownie.
How's he doing it right after? So the fifty fourth pick,
an Tom Watson is with the Celtics. He's had a
good summer league, ten points, five rebound. Celtics who draft
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well really like him, great front office, really like him
doing well. But he will be a g leaguer. The
player drafted right after him was hurt. So let's go
to the fifty seventh pick. It's all Rich chom Chi.
Four points a game. He is viewed very raw as
a g leaguer. So Brownie James hot cold, offensively, mostly cold,
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nice little defensive player, is you know, averaging about four
or five points a game and selling a bunch of merge?
Is it the end of the world? I mean, I
know in politics, clickbait bad actors make a lot of money,
but is this really worth getting worked up over the
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player before him, g leaguer, the player after him, hurt
player after that g leaguer, the number two pick, oh
for fifteen, much higher ceiling, but oh for fifteen. The
bigger issue for him is he's a six to one
and a half player and is not clearly not a
pure point guard, totally limiting his career. He is, at best,
to me, a middle to back into the rote defensive player.
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That's it. Smart kid, athletic, can defend. Never going to
be a fluid, natural offensive player, almost mechanical to me,
that's what he is. I'm sure his shot will get better,
but his bigger issue he's he's six to one and
a half and the Lakers don't trust him to bring
the ball up the floor. Now maybe they will eventually,
but he at some point, you got to be a
point guard at six one and a half. You can
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be a defensive point guard, but you got to be
a point guard. But the fifty fourth pick, the fifty
fifth pick, the fifty sixth pick, ffty seventh pick in
this draft, they're all G leaguers and I mean could
stay in the G League. It's as if the critics
are insisting the Lakers took him as a lottery pick
and are demanding and forcing him to start at point guard. No,
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that's not what JJ Reddick is doing. In fact, here's
JJ Reddick on Bronnie.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
He's a development player. That's how we're looking at Bronnie.
He's certainly going to spend time with the Lakers. He
will spend time as well in the G League. We're
going to develop his shot, will develop his ball skills.
He's already got a great feel. He has a really
good instinctive nature on the defensive end.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yes, he does. When you watch him play. He's got hops,
he's got some length, he's quick, he's athletic, got a
little bit of a football build. Almost He'll be a
defensive player, probably middle to back end of the rotation.
You have to remember, though, even Ray Allen came into
this league, he wasn't a great shooter. He developed into it.
I've always defended players who don't shoot early in their career.
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Very few players come into this league as brilliant shooters. Hell,
lebron James didn't have a lot of range, when he
came into this league. Michael Jordan was never a great
distant shooter. So I'm going to give Brownie a pass
on the three point shooting. I think, I mean, he's
going to develop into a better shooter. But he's athletic,
he's smart, he's a hard worker, he can defend. I
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think he's fine. But in this draft he's been basically
what we were told he would be. Limited offensively, good
defensive player, and a project. The biggest issue with him
is the one that Chris Brussard mentioned yesterday. Project is
the perfect word. You don't typically think.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Of six one guys as projects, but that's what Bridy is.
What is really telling Colin is the fact that they
almost never have him bringing the ball up like he's
a six to ones player. He's gonna have the guard
point guards. He's got obviously not the basketball IQ of
his dad, but a solid, smart basketball IQ, and.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yet they never have.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
They're not even attempting to have him learn point guard
at this point.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, and that's really the issue because that's his only
way to work in this league. He's too small to
be a five, a four, or three or a two,
but he can if he can defend the point on
a basketball team that's got scores at the two, three, four,
and five. Then you got a shot to be a
back end of the bench project g leaguer, maybe at
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some point a rotational NBA player. Jmack with a news no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No, this is the herd line news.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Your note on Brownie with like bringing the ball up
the court, he couldn't do that in high school. He
just didn't have to handle. They wouldn't full court press
him and ease. And that's that's basically a time issue.
I mean, there's there's you can't well. I mean he
grew up.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Let's face it distracted a lot of guys. Can I'm
not saying he didn't work on his game, but a
lot of professional athletes most don't come from wealth. And
so sports is a way out of a life into
a cooler life, right, and so it's you see it
in entertainment. You see it all over entertainment, could be acting, singing, sports.
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You know, not a lot of people grow up with wealth,
and so you have to go through a series of
years of discomfort to become great. Well, it is harder
when your dad's a superstar. Michael or Lebron Magic, they're kids.
It's different Tom Brady's kids. So there's not a lot
of discomfort for those stars children's lives. And I've said
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this before. Granite countertops and crown molding are the death
of aspiration. Your life's comfortable, you're going on vacations, you're
not grinding on a camp just to get onto the field.
So I do think quarterback's a little bit of an
exception in pro sports where there's a lot of dads
who played quarterback, their sons do it. That's not a
hyper athletic position usually, but in most sports you can
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go to Brazil and soccer, Argentine and soccer, they don't
come from wealthy families. And so my thing with Browny is,
you know, it's I just look at pro athletes and
all these countries. They usually are fighting through things. There's
a toughness, fighting through layers to become great. It's hard
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to fight for stuff when dads worth nine hundred million dollars, right,
And I'm not blaming anybody, but that's just the reality
of pro athletes.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, no doubt well said it is Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Clark's family wealthy. They could be, but I doubt it.
I mean, I did you know she's out there playing
basketball six seven years, eight years old, nine years old, she's.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Playing in boys leagues at that age.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's just the reality of pro
sports globally.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Yeah, all right, let's get started. Good news for Caleb
Williams and Bears fans. You always like to say, hey,
when you get new information, you change your opinion, And
I've changed my opinion on this Caleb Williams contract. First
of all, it's official, four years, thirty nine million dollars,
twenty five million dollars signing bonus. So what was all
the haggling about. And some of the reports are coming out. Okay,
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he wanted the Bears to agree not to franchise tag
him in the future.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, they refused to do that. But this is interesting.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Reportedly, Caleb wanted to be paid through an LLC so
that he could get his money tax free. In Illinois,
LLC's have zero tax filing requirements. Well that is smart
as hell.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, smart as hell. And here's the utter thing in
the nil money in calif I think you're able to
do the LLC thing. It's in Los Angeles. I mean specifically,
in California, but in Los Angeles, which has a lot
of entertainers. A way around to marginalize some of the
punitive taxes is creating s corps and LLC's and all
this stuff production companies, and so that's I'm sure he
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had an LLC in California to protect or limit some
of the taxation on his nil USC money. So he
probably wanted to try that in the NFL. Yeah, and
the NFL doesn't allow that, or everybody would do that.
I got to give it to Caleb. This is really smart.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
There's a difference between tax evasion, which is a felony,
and tax avoidance.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Tax avoidance is what anyone who's.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Smart, anyone who's going to be making money, you should
be doing. TAXI Like, how to lessen your taxes in
LLCES corp. Is exactly by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Your accountants are telling you to do this. They're suggesting
this stuff. So he is the first NIL superstar, So
I can assure you USC aligned him with a very
good tax avoiding entertainment attorney, which, by the way, I
have one. I'm sure you have one or will eventually
have one. That's what people in our business have really smart.
I have an entertainment attorney. I took the advice of
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Oprah Winfrey CEO years ago, Eric my buddy, to tell
me how to do it. And so that's what he
did in Los Angeles. So he's just trying to pivot
to the NFL and say, hey, I did this in
LA Can I do it? And they're like, hey, by
the way, you can't do it in the NBA either.
You can do it with shoe deals and production companies
as a player in the NBA, you can't do it
with your NBA salary.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Correct now. The other thing he tried was what's called
a forgivable loan.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
It's kind of in the weeds, but basically he was
hoping to get his money tax free until the loan
was forgiven, which could be like ten years later. NFL said, no,
that not happening. But I will applaud Kayleb Williams. This
is pretty genius stuff. Listen, really smart, it's very smart.
And also, this is what the Dodgers are doing. The
Dodgers are paying Otawani down the road so if he
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retires or leaves California later years, he can get money
in a less punitive tax code.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So like everybody's doing this. By the way, I've suggested
this has hurt New York because in New York, you
pay the federal, you pay the state, you also pay
a city tax. So a lot of times, I'm LA
has the same issues, but LA's got better weather and
it's an entertainment capital. I think this has hurt New
York in free agency through the years. This tax stuff.
It's why Miami is the one Eastern Seaboard team in
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the NBA where all the veterans want to go play.
No state tax, very pro business down in Florida.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, you would hope Orlando could somehow turn that around,
but they haven't been.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Able to keep their superstars all right.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Next up is Tua Tungova still waiting on that long
term deal. Colin Man starting to feel bad for this guy,
Tyreek Hills caping up for him, and now left tackle
Tront Armstead is pointing out how the team needs their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
They're going to reach their goals, so we.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Need to go anywhere that we're trying to go.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
All our dreams, goals and aspirations is reliant on number one.
And the Dolphins know that, the organization know that, and city,
the league, so the way they.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Are, not the numbers.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
All that negotiation gets tough. Tough in contracts, teams start
to bring up bad plays, bad games, injuries, You'll you
start to get offended, like, oh man, that's how you
really feel. What is leverage? And once you get you
peel back those layers and you keep it about the business,
it'll get done.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, he's gonna get his you sure, Yeah, I think
he's gonna get his. I don't think he's gonna get
quite the number that his fan voice want him to get,
but I think he'll get a number.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We're getting close to the end of the summer, right
and in August.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I think you're gonna redo your NFL teams based on
maybe some preseason.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And when is the Greg Twoey is one of my
producers I do about before the season starts. I usually
do four predictions. I do post free agency and coaching hires,
post free agency, coaching hires, post draft, then sort of
a pre camp, and then a post camp see if
there's any injuries. Yeah, I'm not I have I done
(23:59):
the third one yet? Can I do the third one?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Because I want to know if you've got the Dolphins
in the play.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, so tomorrow I can do my playoff preview pre camp.
That means pre injuries because we have the free agency done,
we have the draft done, all the coaching done, and
we're also getting reports out of and signings for quarterbacks.
So that creates a little less chaos, some more foundational
good stuff for teams.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
So all the schedule, we've got this schedule.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's a good point. We have the schedules come out,
so why don't I do that? Tomorrow we will have
our well our third big NFL playoff prediction, and then
we'll do one after see if there's any injuries after
the preseason.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I keep looking at this Dolphins seaton, regardless of what
happens with Tua.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't see a path to the playoffs for them,
not in that division.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They're gonna score a lot of points.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Okay, to score a lot of points last year, and
then they made the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well they kind of backed in there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well they made the playoffs. I don't care how you
get into the playoffs. They I don't care if you're
back in, you topple in, you fumble in, you got
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I see all those cold weather games there at the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
End, No there. I will say this week thirteen on
is a it's a tough, slight doozy. It's a doozy,
but there's a lot of wins here for a team
averaging twenty eight a game, a lot of ws, a
lot of win How about Buffalo week two having to
go down to that swamp in Miami where it's ninety
four in Hughet Matt Miswell, just put a w on
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that one.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
I tell you, yesterday it was Josh Allen's amazing and
now he kept handles and in Miami, Come on, bro,
what is that?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
All?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Final story?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Let's go to Team USA. They beat down Serbia yesterday.
It's won by twenty six. We're now three and oh
tuning up ahead of the Olympics. Curry was cooking eighteen
or twenty four in the first eleven minutes. I had
a sweet four point play listen, guys, tremendous. Bam Outebayo
was awesome, seventeen points. I think he had three threes
and Edward sixteen. Your guy Ad went off us USA
(25:56):
now heads to London for two more games Saturday, face
so Dan. The only concern I have over this absolute
butt whooping of Serbia. Is you know, the US is
gonna go into the matchup that matters in the.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Olympics and group play.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yeah, and they're gonna be like, we just smashed these
guys like twenty six, and they're probably gonna be a
little overcontident, and you know, we know what.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I find treat a little caution. I really like Olympic basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, I get all the stars and then I get
the patriotism, So a convergence of two things I like.
I like the big stars. They deeply care about playing
in it. I think it's pretty cool that all these
NBA guys who have one hundred and fifty two hundred
and fifty million dollar net worth love playing for the country.
They're into it, they're feisty.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Well, you're also going to Paris and you're going to
London's a nice little summer summer travel.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
My kids are going. They got some tickets. The kids
are going to Paris, and I told them bring sunscreen
in the hat. It'll gonna be And they're saying they're
saying that. I mean, I'll watch some of the Olympics.
I'm more World Cup than I think we're both more
World Cup than Olympic viewers. Olympic does a lot of
pad injury stuff I don't care about, but apparently it's
it's they're not selling a lot of tickets.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Nobody wants to be there. There's zero. We went to
Paris last year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
It's not my favorite city on planet Earth. I want
to go like every other year. That was no chance
I would go this year.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
First of all, July and August are the two months
you don't want to go to Paris. No, it is
crowded and it is hot. Awesome city though, it is
a great place.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I can't believe your kids are going. Wow Olympics.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They got some free tickets.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh wow, because you got hooked up.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Uh, just whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You're just such a big You're just moving in different
circles than all of us.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now, No, I'm just I'm just moving in circles. I'm not.
They're not different circles. They're just circles. Jmack with the News, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Lie. I told both of them, I said, it's going
to be oppressively hot, it's going to be incredibly expensive.
It's going to be really crowded. Are you sure you
want to do this? My kids dipped into their savings
and they're like, all right, dad, can you uh? You
know they bought like you know, they got direct flights.
You know, it's you know, big airports where they live,
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and so.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Young people are crazy. You remember being young and crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, I know one of the things I've always encouraged
my kids get on planes very early. We got them
on planes. We've here's how airports work, watch the signage,
here's how to book your flights. We both you know,
everybody in the family, our kids travel and that was
one of the not always fancy places like this is
a big deal. Yeah. I mean a lot of times
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it's just Nowhereville. But I would say is I'm I'm
a huge fan of traveling. By the way, mister airport guy,
how's the Charles Degaul Airport?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Is that the one in uh?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
That's the one in Paris?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, how is it?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You're the one that went there the last year?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I don't remember, but he throw in London is awesome.
That airport is tremendous. I can't believe it didn't make
your list.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I don't. I don't like he thrown nearly as much
as Wow. Now, there's a lot of good airports in
this country. You know, the best airport in the countries Actually, Indianapolis.
Doesn't mean I want to go there a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You expect me to leave that nuts. Really, that's the
best airport of the country.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, the best one I've been in. Big city airports
are all a pain in the butt. They're all awful,
I mean, lax. It's fine.
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Speaker 1 (29:57):
You ever heard the term unintent consequences. You have this
all the time, and anybody listening to me that owns
a business, there's probably something that happened after you started
owning the business. You had an unintended benefit or a consequence.
If those tear your company down, it's not a very
(30:19):
good company. But there are times I'll give you an
example golf. I golf in the summer. I don't do
it much in the winter. I'm too busy fall winter football.
But in the summer I'll go golf. The unintended benefit
of golf that I never really thought about is a
lot of business people golf, and over the course of time,
I have met people the last twenty years golfing that
(30:39):
I would have never met uh and had opportunities because
of that that I never really thought about. I just
like going with buddies and golfing. I like being outside.
I like the sun, maybe light up a cigar in.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
The back nine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I never really thought, oh it's it'd be some business
opportunities when I'm golf and even in the summer. I
never thought about it. But it can happen. So you
hear this all the time. Unintend benefits of a business.
Those are cool, and sometimes there's unintended consequences, but they
don't make or break a business, and if they do,
he didn't have a very good business. So I've always
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I've been hearing this in the last couple of years.
As we move into a college football season with a
twelve team playoff, there are going to be unintended consequences.
Oh boy, So here's a guy I like, but he's
old school, he's a traditionalist. Dabos twinty says, with a
twelve team playoff, what if players start taking day games
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off right before the playoff?
Speaker 11 (31:38):
See you guys opting out of bowl games and things
like that. You'll probably see some guys if you're four
and four and probably out of the playoffs, probably see
some guys head off to Arizona and train. You know,
it's probably an unintended consequence. Maybe you're eleven to zero
and you got that rivalry game, but oh, you play
your biggest foe next week in the conference championship, and
(32:00):
if you win that game, you're gonna get a bye.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
So those are things that are probably decisions you'll see
play out all throughout college football.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Okay, well, that happens in the NFL, as he noted,
does it hurt the sport? Really? You know, I love
the NFL, but they rest at a right tackle in
week sixteen. I'm turning my television off. Okay, listen, there's
one hundred and thirty four Division one programs, but there's
(32:31):
only sixty eight in the Power four. And those are
the big boy programs that win titles of all those games.
For those concerned about the unintended consequence that rivalry games
won't be as big, like Bama Auburn is gonna someday
not matter. Do you know how many rivalry games move
(32:51):
the needle with ratings Michigan, Ohio, State, Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC, Army, Navy,
and sometimes Auburn Alabama five games. College football has a
lot of older fans and their demographic. They love tradition,
they love ritual, they love tailgating with their old buddies.
I love that too, and there'll be plenty of that
(33:12):
that will all still exist. But now you're adding eleven
playoff games to those rivalries. And if the rivalries sometimes
they're not all played in the last week. By the way,
Notre Dame USC does know what's playing the last week.
Sometimes they play in the middle of the season. Texas
Oklahoma's middle of the season, Michigan Ohio State's at the end.
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But a lot of those rivalry games are in the
middle of the season. Most will still be huge, and
if one or two aren't quite as huge, they may
meet to get in the playoff and they'll be bigger
than they are now. You don't think Michigan Ohio State
meeting in a twelve team playoff for the right to
go to the championships bigger than the annual meeting. Damn straight,
(33:53):
it will be. So you know I say this, Clemson
just had its worst seat in a long time. Why
because Dabbo a guy like his old school, and he
doesn't want to do the nil. He doesn't want to
do the transfer portal. They have lost fifty players at
Clemson since the portal started and gained two. And Clemson
(34:17):
isn't as good today as five years ago. Adapter Die
nil's going nowhere. Transfer portal's going nowhere. Twelve team playoff
going nowhere. We just had the highest rated college football
season ever. And be honest, about ninety percent of you
were belly achin about the transfer portal and the nil
(34:38):
ruling the sport. I had friends pouting, telling me, I
will never watch college football. It's just pro football now, No,
it's not kids go to school, it's not NFL football,
and it just had its highest ratings many people in America.
Forty percent of people in America never leave their area code.
(34:58):
I get it. Some of you don't like It's okay,
but rivalries are going to exist. Michigan, Ohio State Army
Navy is going to be big for the rest of
our lives. And now you ad a march madness at
the end of the rivalries. Yeah, I'm here for it.
I think we're all gonna be okay. You know. I
mean again, there are communities in America that don't embrace technology.
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There are not only consequences of that, but limitations in
that lifestyle. So you know, and I just I hear
this all the time. Well, I started a company three
years ago. There have been some unintended benefits to it.
I didn't think about much that I've really met amazing
young people. I mean, I knew I could hire people,
(35:43):
but you become friends with people and rely on young
Vietles really cool, and there's some consequences. I don't have
the time I once did certain times to see something
he or something that now I gotta work, okay, but
neither one is destroying my life or taking it to
a place it's never been. So take a deep breath.
College football is gonna be amazing. Auburn Alabama may not
(36:05):
feel as big, quite as big, but if Auburn makes
the playoff, Alabama will for sure with Kaylin to Boord,
they're gonna be in that puppy every year. But if
Auburn makes the playoff, you're gonna forget about Auburn Alabama.
If you're playing Ohio State for a right to play
for the championship, that Bama game's in the rearview mirror,
you're gonna be good with it. And I like Dabo,
(36:27):
but he had one quote yesterday. I saw this. It
said Dabbo used to say he was in favor of
returning to the BCS era Tabo. You had algorithms and
computers deciding the national championship teams. Now I don't miss
that at all. And we were talking about this yesterday. Overwhelmingly,
sports is so much better today when I hear all
(36:50):
these people at these conventions. Oh the crime is up. No,
it's actually down. It's actually the America's terrible stock markets
at an all time high. All the inflation coming down,
gas price is coming down, Unemployment historic low. Everybody belly
aches about everything because negativity gets more attention than optimism
(37:10):
and positivity. You know what I mean. It's much easier
to build a tech talker, an IG or an X
platform saying the world's gonna end. It's not. I mean,
all I see on this is AI stories. How AI
is going to destroy the world. Does everybody understand the
medical advances that are already happening now because of AI,
(37:32):
Like lives potentially in your family will be saved over
the next decade because of AI. Yeah, and they'll probably
create a freaky robot somewhere that'll all scare us a
little bit. It's not gonna end the world. We're all
gonna be okay. But I know this because of what
I do for a living. Negative YouTube comments, negative opinion
drives more coverage, and so take a deep breath. Turn
(37:55):
the phone off occasionally where all college football is going
to be great, if I have to hear another person
say I'm turning it off because of the nil and
transfer portal. Give me a break. Have you moved in
your life. I've moved several times. Why can't a player move?
Coaches leave programs? Why can't players leave programs? And by
the way, tell me about eight percent of the players
(38:16):
that are leaving programs anyway, and they're guys that weren't
starting for your team. They're disgruntled. They go to another place,
and they often transfer another time. Very few of these
transfer guys have met. USC has lived off the transfer portal.
Two players have mattered, Jordan Addison and Caleb Williams. They've
had sixty transfers, two of mattered. So it's not changing
(38:36):
the sport. When I turn on Saturday Football and I
watch Michigan, I don't know if it's nineteen eighty or
it's twenty twenty three. It looks like Michigan to me,
I got a hard ball, I got a physical football team.
I got the uniforms, the ban, I got the stadium,
I got Victor's. It looks the same to me. What
do I care if they got a cornerback from Cincinnati
that came to a portal, What do I care? What
(38:58):
do I care if the left tackle makes three hundred
thousand dollars a year. What do I care? It's good
on television. See this is the this is my I'm
wearing an optimistic shirt today. That's where all this optimism
comes from. The world's not ending. We're going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The world is not.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Come on, you got a traffic in.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
The fear mongering that's like so popular now right now,
you just got to scare people.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Hey man, someone's coming to take your job. Sooner or later, Collins.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You know what, you know what, in a few years
they can have it. You think you're taking it, I'll
give it to you.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's the outlook. But the fear mongering, you're right, it's.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
How about you and Dabbo, didn't you guys have a
good relationship.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I like him, Yeah, I would. I think he's I
think he's got a good sense of humor. I think
he's a great coach. But you can, you can stop
worrying about this. They got to get in the transfer portal.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
And you know why he wants to go back to
the BCS era because they were winning more well, because it's.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
An easy path for them.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
They don't play anybody.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
You know now you got this playoff, you got to
go through several good teams like they used to have
a free ride Clemson.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, well the ACC is not good and.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
They lost Shawn Watson, who is oh my gosh Lawrence.
You remember how good he was against Alabama those two games.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Listen, they had back to back to had the Deshaun
Watson Trevor Lawrence for about a seven year period or
six year period. They were beating Bama and didn't have
the recruits of Bama. They've never had Alabama Georgia level,
Ohio state level recruited defenses. But yeah, okay, second hour
coming up, we got a Eric Musselman, a fascinating guy
is gonna be is he in studio? I can't wait
(40:25):
for that today, USC's new coach. Guy knows a lot
about the NBA college. He's got a million opinions on everything.
He'll be joining us today as well. Hour two next
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