Jason Timpf reacts to LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Team USA's 92-88 win over Germany in their exhibition ahead of the Olympic Games in Paris. Jason discusses LeBron's dominant 4th quarter, in which he scored the final 11 points of the game for Team USA, and why the American team has found themselves in closer games than expected, including Saturday's unexpected thriller vs. South Sudan. Later, Jason breaks down who he thinks would win between LeBron and Anthony Davis' 2020 Lakers vs. Jayson Tatum's 2024 Boston Celtics.
Timeline:
4:30 - USA Select Team
6:30 - Jaime vs. LeBron
9:00 - Getting drafted by Heat
11:00 - Defending in NBA vs. college
12:45 - Why Erik Spoelstra is NBA's best coach
15:00 - How Kobe influenced Jaime's game
16:15- What NBA training is like?
23:00 - Biggest area for improvement
26:15 - Was Heat's offense difficult to learn?
28:00 - Jaime in Summer League
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Slash Baseball. All right, welcome to hoops tonight. Here at
the Volume presented by Chase Freedom. We have a very
special guest for you guys today, Hi Mayhawk has Junior
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Ford for the Miami Heat also on the USA Select Team,
something I'm very excited to talk about today. But before
we get into that, we're taping here at the MBPA
Brotherhood Deli presented by Chase Freedom. In front of an
incredible crowd of both Chase Freedom customers as well as fans,
some of whom you've had the opportunity to meet already.
So before we even dive into the episode, can we
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take a moment to talk about how cool this is,
what does this mean to you, and what has this
experience been like so far.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It has been a great experience, a chance to connect
with fans. Everybody who loves basketball always knows that Summer
League is the place to be Las Vegas. This is
I think a mini mecca of basketball when you think
of you know how many people come and play not
just in the NBA but au tournaments around you know,
teams around the country always come to Vegas to play.
So this is a mini mecca and it's great to
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be here. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You're walking around the casinos and you see all the
kids run into their camp games and stuff like that.
It's literally just a basketball event where everybody comes around
the country. So I want to start with you and
say Select Team. So I think this is a particular
literally a particularly amazing honor because it's getting selected to
the USA Select Team is not just about your talent.
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What those guys are saying. The guys who are the
decision makers for Team USA are saying, you can help
make the main team better.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It is a.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Payment of respect to you being a winning basketball player.
That's why I think it matters so much. Did you
expect to be invited? Was this like a goal of
yours that you achieved or were you surprised when you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Heard about it? I would say I was pretty shocked
when I got the news. My agent had called me
and let me know that I had been selected to participate.
I was blown away. I didn't think that was going
to happen. It wasn't like a goal of mine or
something that I was thinking about. But you know, when
you get honor like that, you have to take advantage
and jump into opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So that's what I did, And like, honestly, like if
someone asked me to explain Himehawk as his game in
like ten seconds, it would just be a really good
basketball player, just well rounded, does everything well. That's the
kind of guy that helps push people and make other
people better. That's why they wanted you there. That's why
they wanted you to compete against the best players in
the world. I thought it was such a cool, honor
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tell us more about the process. Was there like a
ton of scheme implementation at first, Like were they trying
to just inundate you with a ton of sets and
defensive coverages or was it more just kind of they
trusted you guys to go play basketball and you just
competed against each other for a few days.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I would say that, you know, the first couple of
days was a lot about putting an offense and defense
and a lot of what the Olympic team would see
during their competition. So we you know, got a bunch
of plays put in and for the very first day
so that we go execute the next day. A lot
of that and a lot of defensive principles. But at
the end of the day, they just told us to
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go out there and who play our game and you know,
really push those guys and give them a challenge because
that's what they're going to face.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, for sure. Was there a particular player on the
select team that you matched up against and like competed
against and then you left the that experience like feeling
more respect for that player, like a player you were
impressed by.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, the guy that I was probably matched up
the most with was probably Lebron. You know, I already
have incredible respect for what he's been able to do,
the longevity with he was able to play with. I
mean obviously still playing, but just how hard he goes.
Even Coach Bo was telling me that this guy, you know,
still wakes up at six am in the morning before
everybody else, that gets his lift in, and the way
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he prepares for practices is like he's playing a game.
So you get to see that, and you know, those
are things that I want to take and implement into
my routines and my lifestyle, and you know, just being
able to see that was incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I saw a quote from Katie the other day
talking about how like how he just the amount of
energy Lebron brings every day, how it's like contagious and
a basketball season is a grind. It's hard to bring
it every day. So when you have a guy that
brings that energy, it just kind of lifts everybody up
and then you get a little bit more out of
every practice and it just makes it better. Obviously, the
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selects team, that whole process includes the famous scrimmage against
the actual national team, and it's like goes all the
way back to nineteen ninety two when they actually beat
the Dream Team, right, and so this is kind of
a famous game for basketball players. Like where did that
stack up for you with your other core memories as
a basketball player, Like you played in that famous game,
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Like what was that experience? Like?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It was absolutely incredible. I use that word a lot,
but that's really the only way to have to describe it.
I would say, you know, you got guys Lebron, Steph, Katie,
you know Kawhi, you know some of the younger guys
as well, like Tyree's an ant. You know, this collective
together as a team. It's like the NBA is in
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a transitional period. You got guys like you know, Lebron, Steph,
kd On there, you know, who knows how many years
they got left, and you know they're on the floor
together at the same time, and you never know when
that's ever going to happen again. So just to be
able to be in that position experience that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, especial shout out to Steph, Kde and Lebron for
like still being this good as the younger generation is
coming up, because it kind of makes for this cool experience,
Like I was at the game on Wednesday and like
seeing the bench unit come in and bring all of
their youthful energy, but then also watching the starters get
off the way that they did. It's such a cool
basketball team because it's like two completely different generations playing together.
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Let's get into your NBA career. So before we get
into some of the specifics, did you actually have like
pretty good intel that you were going to end up
in Miami or was that a surprise to you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I didn't have intel, but I had faith. Okay, I
was going to land there. I didn't know for sure,
but I don't know. After one number eighteen was called
to pick, I just had a feeling that my name
was going to be called.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's awesome. You obviously had a very successful first NBA season.
You played over two thousand minutes for a playoff team.
The heat were two point two points per one hundred
possessions better with you all on the floor versus when
you were off. According to Cleaning the Glass, you had
nine to twenty point games. So to put it simply,
you were a good rotation player for a good team
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right away as a rookie, which is super rare in
the NBA. Was did you have any goals going into
that season that you lived up to or is there
anything that like, did you have any other specific goals
for next season, like a next step you want to
get to in your second campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I was having this conversation actually the other day about
goals and mindset and you know, expectations, and one of
the things that I've learned is that, you know, I
go in to have no expectations and just be ready
for my opportunity. So I went into my rookie season,
you know, not really knowing what was going to happen.
The the NBA season is so crazy, so many ups
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and downs. You know, guys get hurt, and then you know,
it's an opportunity for me to step in and be
able to play my game. And then so that's kind
of what happened. And then you know, this next year,
obviously you know everyone's pretty much healthy. So you know,
my job is just to be prepared as I can,
you know, for whatever opportunity calls, and just be ready
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to play my game and go out there and help
win games.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's actually a really interesting point because every season has
a different roster, a different health based on you know,
how things go over the eighty two games, so your
role could shift from year to year, and so yeah,
like you can't let your personal goals get in the
way of that. You have to just be ready for
whatever's next. That's kind of what it is. You know,
You're just ready for whatever comes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You know, one day, you know you're asked to, you know,
handle the ball, to play play the point guard. The
next day you're asked to, you know, guard the best player.
So I just try to be ready for anything at
all times.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I actually have a quick follow up on that. How
much harder was defending at the NBA level compared to
the Pack twelve level. Were you like blown away by
the speed? Like was it a tough transition?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I think well, when you talk about college basketball,
everything is so condensed and packed in the paint, whereas
you go in the NBA and you know there's three
second three seconds defensive and the key, so so you
know there's not anyone there, and it's a little bit
wider of a court. The spacing is just much bigger,
so there's a lot more room. So defensively, it's definitely
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makes it a lot more of a challenge because you know,
in college you got guys helping. You know, you get beat,
there's a guy helping on the baseline for you. And
you know that's not always the case in the NBA.
You know, you try to, but it's it's just a
lot harder.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, you like containing in space. It feels like it's
one of the most important things you have to be
able to do now. And like we even saw with
the Celtics in the finals, it's like if when you
can drive and kick and get the defense in rotation,
it just makes everything so much easier, and so being
able to contain the ball is so important. So obviously
every good basketball player has like a healthy amount of
respect for the Miami. Their organization is famous for good reason,
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their championship organization. Obviously, like you've been a fan. I
would assume of Spoe and of Jimmy and Vam from Afar,
But like you were in the trenches with those guys
this year, So what was that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like, Man, it was a it was a great experience.
There was no other people I'd rather be in the
trenches with than those guys. You know, I suppose one
guy that you know talk about bringing every day, that
guy brings it every single day to practice, you know,
Jimmy and Bam the same way. You know, it was
just a it was just a perfect storm for me
to be able to go in and learn from those
guys right away. And I was just really blessed to
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have that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I actually think Eric Sposer is the best coach in
the NBA, I would agree, And he's kind of a
psycho competitor. How does that like personality meshin with the
locker room? Does it almost like feel like there's just
another player in there because he's just as amped up
as you guys are.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh definitely. I mean that guy is always, uh all,
his mind is always racing thinking about basketball plays and
what he can do to, you know, help our team
get better. You know, I was telling they just asked
me a question. You know. One of the funniest moments
or craziest moments. I remember, Coach Spoe was lifting in
the weight room, well like he always does in the mornings,
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and I walk in and he's listening to you know,
zig Ziggler. I was born to win. I don't know
if anybody knows what zig ziggler is. Do you know
what that is? I don't I needed and I. But
I walked in and I was like, what is going on?
I was warrant win and you know it was like
something that was like almost hypnotizing him. And you know,
I was listening to it while I was working out.
It was, it was, it was. It was an interesting
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experience for sure. So zig Zigglar everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And he was a He was a guard I want
to say at the mid major level, wasn't he? If
I remember correctly, Like he played in college, so like,
I'm sure he's just wired like most most people that
come up through that mid mid major level too, where
they just have a chip on their shoulder and they're
always super super competitive. He came up through the film room,
so like that dude is grinded for everything that he's had.
So it just fits so nicely with your guys' identity.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I would agree. I would completely agree. He brings it
every day. You know, he always has that chip on
his shoulder. That's kind of our our identity as the
Miami Heat and part of our culture.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So I want to dive into your game for a
little bit. You were an excellent post player right away.
This year, you averaged one point twenty six points per
possession including passes. According to Energy, out of sixty three
players in the NBA last year that ran at least
seventy five post up you ranked post ups, you ranked third. Okay,
so you were one of the very best post players.
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You were one of the best post players in the
NBA last year. You personally, on your own shot attempts
out of the post shot fifty percent. Like what, it
really looked like it clicked for you. When I went
back and watched your film, it looked like it clicked
for you. That junior year at UCLA was the year
where you really started to develop that post game. What
drove you to to develop your low post game.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I would say watching Kobe Bryant working from the elbows,
work from the post, you know, mid post, low posts,
all of that. So he was one guy I really
looked up to. DeMar de Rosen is another guy. You know,
the face of game, the pivots, everything, the fakes. So
those are guys I really looked up to. And you
know when I was a well, when I was a kid,
I would go to the park all the time and
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just you know, work on my game, just me versus nobody,
and just try to be as creative as I could be,
you know, thinking of moves and how it gets scored
to basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, one of the specific things you do really well,
most most basketball players when they go into a drop
step have to pick up their dribble. Like so they'll
spin towards the baseline and they'll pick up their dribble,
and so if they don't get a decent look, they're
in trouble. They're like trapped down there. And one of
the things you do is you keep your dribble alive
as you go into that half spin, like as you
drop step back and forth, and so you kind of
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do like almost like a post up from the three
point line sometimes where you're just kind of spinning and
spinning until you get into the lane. That's like a
little piece of like footwork and and just you know,
coordination that I know you worked insanely hard on behind
the scenes. So like what is your skill training regimen, Like,
Like what in the off season do you have like
a super regimented day by day kind of approach do
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you have like, oh, this day I work on post work?
Like what is what is the process of making yourself
the best possible basketball player?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You can be.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
What does that look like, Well.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I would say, for you know, specifically post subs. I
think the only way you really get good or great
at that is by going against somebody and having someone
guard you in those areas. So that's something that I
really like. I like going against live competition. But as
far as regimen, I mean, you know, one of the
things I like to I like to get up a
lot of shots. I like to get shots on the
move stan stills, you know, mid ranges, trying to everywhere floaters,
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get up as many shots as I can. And then defensively,
you know, work on my defense, you know, guard guys.
Instead of me just playing you know, one on one
versus them, I'll go and guard and work on my
work on my defense, try to find angles and really
play around with stuff like that. So it's all to me,
you know, thinking creatively about how I can be the best,
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what works and what doesn't. And that's really the approach
that I take.
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Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's interesting because like there are there are a lot
of young basketball players that play too much and they
don't do enough skill work. But then there are also
players that do so much skill work and they're not
going against live bodies, and you have to go against
live bodies. And I find that fascinating because specifically with
your post game, you are a master of leverage on
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the ground. Because I actually wanted to ask you about this.
I saw a tweet going around or just one one
of the videos of that scrimmage against Team USA and
you were driveling up the floor against Lebron and you
attacked him in the post and you drew a foul
on him, and we all remember the famous shot from
the and I'm a Laker fan, so it was a
little devastating for me. But you hit like a left
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shoulder fade along the right baseline over Lebron that was
going everywhere. But then I started digging through your film
and it's like, oh, here's he's taking a step back
in the post against Isaiah Stewart, Like oh, he's got
Herb Jones on him, and he just posted him up
and hit a hook shot over the top. You have
this like obsession with the attacking taller players in the post,
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like are you just challenging yourself or do you see
an advantage there?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, I would say, I don't know. I hear
what you're saying. I mean, Herb Jones, I think we're
about the same height. I the story is definitely tall.
But as far as attacking other players, I think you
know it's expected, you know, especially you know if you're smaller,
No big guys expecting a smaller guy to post them up.
And you know that's a place where I feel comfortable,
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and a lot of the times you know they're you know,
they're expecting something else. So it kind of is a
is a switch in their mind, something that they're not expecting.
And you know, when I see a big guy, I
try to, you know, face up, try to take them
off the dribble, and if I can't, then you know,
I just get back to what I know, try to
post up. And you know a lot of the times,
you know, you pump take a big guy there, most
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of the time they're going to jump. So you know,
that's something that I always keep in the back of
my head.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, and then again it goes back to that ground
battle piece, Like that's what I think of when I
watch you in those situations, Like you're seeing that you
can win the battle on the ground. I can pivot
around this guy, get to my spot, and then you
have the left shoulder fade, you have the right shoulder fade,
you have the left shoulder hook. So like those are
all over the top shots anyway, they're designed to be
hit over length. So like I think you see that
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you just have an advantage there and that and that
you can go to work. Let's uh, what do you
think is your biggest area of improvement for a player
As a player.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Right now, I would just say for me, being consistent
knocked down three point shooters one of the things that
I'm looking to to really improve this offseason, as well as,
you know, just being a hound on defense, being able
to you know, guard the best player on the opposing
team and shut them down.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah. You your junior year at UCLA, according to Synergy,
you got zero point seven to nine points per jump shot,
zero point eight seven. The next year zero point nine
to one with Miami. So you're steadily tearing up as
a jump shooter every year. And it's funny because I
listen to people like either commenting underneath my videos or
just people talking about basketball on Twitter, and they're under
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the impression that, like, you just go in for a
summer and you can come out a great jump shooter.
And it's like, no, it's a grind. You got to
shoot thousands and thousands of jump shots every single day
for months and months and months, and it's a slow grind.
And so there's obviously signs that you're making improvements on
that front, And honestly, I would imagine that's something that
they need within that Miami offense actually have a follow
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for you on the.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Post up stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Did Eric Spolstra approach you and say like, hey, I
watched her film at UCLA. I saw how successful you
are attacking matchups in the post Let's incorporate that or
did you demonstrate it? And then everyone was like, Oh,
he can do this, Let's let's try to build this
out more.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I would say he definitely watched his film because some
of the sets that we ran were like almost identical
to the ones I ran at UCLA. So I think,
you know, that's just how great of a coach he is.
He knows what his player's strengths are and he tries
to you know, expose that on the court and then
give us an opportunity to play to our strengths. And
that's just what makes him such a great coach. And
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you know, going back to you know, the jump shooting thing,
that's one of the things that we talk about a
lot is you know, success is not linear. You know,
it's not a straight uphill. You're gonna go down, you're
gonna go up, and then you're gonna go down again,
and then you're gonna go up and then you know,
to see those jumps. It takes time and it's like
you said, it's a grind.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, especially with jump shoot because jump shooting is it's
such a head game too, because you can go cold
and miss four or five in a row even if
you're doing everything right, and it can just be frustrated.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So mental, it's it's such such a mental thing. You
shoot somebody shots, you're like, how do I miss? So
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So specifically with spolshra, was there a set? Is there
a specific set that they would draw up for you
to get a bucket that was your favorite that you
can think of, like in the huddle, it's like we're
running this for high may he's going to attack this matchup.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is thereveryone that you have in mind? Yeah, there's there's
a few that I like. The cross green on the
baseline is one that sticks out to me. And then
we have a little nose where I catch it around.
Uh well they set it downscreen for me and I
and you know go up around to the elbow winging
area and then catch it and pick a roll. So
those are those are two much.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That get you to a good spot at the defender
and trail positions, you have a little bit of an
advantage for sure. Was it hard for you to pick
up Miami's offense or was it pretty like it was
a pretty standard read and react five out stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I mean, you know, it's basketball. I think the difference
in the NBA versus colleges and the NBA a lot
of actions versus sets. You know, we got to get
to this action. Okay, let's get to another action. You know,
usually you got you got two ball swings and then
you need a shot because of the short you know,
twenty four seconds and versus college where you can swing
the ball maybe three times and get a shot. But
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it's all actions. It's all you know, basketball stuff. So
it wasn't too complicated. So you played with Jimmy Butler. Obviously,
this is a guy that you probably were fan of
from Afar for a long time. What was it like
being his teammate? I mean it was great, man. You know,
that was my favorite player growing up, so you know,
now to be his teammate, it's it's a little weird,
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you know, having you know, one of your idols now
become you know, one of your teammates slash friends. So
it's it was such a cool experience.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And then you're doing commercials together and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Have you guys had some battles in practice?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, we had some battles, you know, the one on one.
That's something that we do a lot after practice is
have one on ones and you know, from different spots,
whether it be the low post elbows, even on the wings,
and then shooting competitions as well, it gets it gets competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Did you talk some trash to you at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, we definitely try to test me for sure.
You know, I stepped my ground, which I think you know,
he respected.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So so what's the plan for the rest of the summer.
You're gonna take some time off after the Select team?
Are you going to get right back into it?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh? Well I got a game tomorrow, so oh okay,
yeah I'll be playing here. Oh you're playing with Summer League. Yeah,
that's already three three tomorrow. I got a game. So
you know, it's been working continuing. We have practice this
morning and then you know, got a game tomorrow. Excited
for it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What's different about Summer League this year compared to last year?
Do you just feel like so much more confident?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, I mean I was confident before. I think I
just got a year of the league under my belt,
and you know, now it's not the first time of league,
it's a second. So that's pretty The biggest difference.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Are the summer league practices. Is that do you feel
like you get a lot out of them? Do you
feel like this is a good offseason workout for you anyway?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, for sure. I mean any practice as you do,
I think is good practice. You know, you have to
also practice with intentions, so you know, it would be
able to get out here, you know, connect with some
of the guys, you know, Kalou Pele or two draft picks.
It's been great seeing how they work and operate and
getting to connect and you know, start you know, being
that guy that welcomes the new guys and like you know,
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they did they did to me the last year.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
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Speaker 1 (24:40):
They'll give me one. I'll I got here with a
sue side basketball all right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Guys, Hi Man, thank you so much for taking the
time to sit down. I sincerely appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Good luck to you with the rest of the Summer League.
Good luck, but next season I'll be here to tomorrow watching.
I'll be covering you closely next year. You've been one
of my favorite players for a long time. It was
awesome to sit down and talk some hoops with you. Everybody.
Thank you so much for the support as always, and
we will see you next time.
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Slash Baseball. All right, welcome to hoops tonight. Here at
the Volume presented by Chase Freedom. We have a very
special guest for you guys today, Hi Mayhawk has Junior
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Ford for the Miami Heat also on the USA Select Team,
something I'm very excited to talk about today. But before
we get into that, we're taping here at the MBPA
Brotherhood Deli presented by Chase Freedom. In front of an
incredible crowd of both Chase Freedom customers as well as fans,
some of whom you've had the opportunity to meet already.
So before we even dive into the episode, can we
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take a moment to talk about how cool this is,
what does this mean to you, and what has this
experience been like so far.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It has been a great experience, a chance to connect
with fans. Everybody who loves basketball always knows that Summer
League is the place to be Las Vegas. This is
I think a mini mecca of basketball when you think
of you know how many people come and play not
just in the NBA but au tournaments around you know,
teams around the country always come to Vegas to play.
So this is a mini mecca and it's great to
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be here. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You're walking around the casinos and you see all the
kids run into their camp games and stuff like that.
It's literally just a basketball event where everybody comes around
the country. So I want to start with you and
say Select Team. So I think this is a particular
literally a particularly amazing honor because it's getting selected to
the USA Select Team is not just about your talent.
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What those guys are saying. The guys who are the
decision makers for Team USA are saying, you can help
make the main team better.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It is a.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Payment of respect to you being a winning basketball player.
That's why I think it matters so much. Did you
expect to be invited? Was this like a goal of
yours that you achieved or were you surprised when you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Heard about it? I would say I was pretty shocked
when I got the news. My agent had called me
and let me know that I had been selected to participate.
I was blown away. I didn't think that was going
to happen. It wasn't like a goal of mine or
something that I was thinking about. But you know, when
you get honor like that, you have to take advantage
and jump into opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So that's what I did, And like, honestly, like if
someone asked me to explain Himehawk as his game in
like ten seconds, it would just be a really good
basketball player, just well rounded, does everything well. That's the
kind of guy that helps push people and make other
people better. That's why they wanted you there. That's why
they wanted you to compete against the best players in
the world. I thought it was such a cool, honor
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tell us more about the process. Was there like a
ton of scheme implementation at first, Like were they trying
to just inundate you with a ton of sets and
defensive coverages or was it more just kind of they
trusted you guys to go play basketball and you just
competed against each other for a few days.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I would say that, you know, the first couple of
days was a lot about putting an offense and defense
and a lot of what the Olympic team would see
during their competition. So we you know, got a bunch
of plays put in and for the very first day
so that we go execute the next day. A lot
of that and a lot of defensive principles. But at
the end of the day, they just told us to
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go out there and who play our game and you know,
really push those guys and give them a challenge because
that's what they're going to face.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, for sure. Was there a particular player on the
select team that you matched up against and like competed
against and then you left the that experience like feeling
more respect for that player, like a player you were
impressed by.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, the guy that I was probably matched up
the most with was probably Lebron. You know, I already
have incredible respect for what he's been able to do,
the longevity with he was able to play with. I
mean obviously still playing, but just how hard he goes.
Even Coach Bo was telling me that this guy, you know,
still wakes up at six am in the morning before
everybody else, that gets his lift in, and the way
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he prepares for practices is like he's playing a game.
So you get to see that, and you know, those
are things that I want to take and implement into
my routines and my lifestyle, and you know, just being
able to see that was incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I saw a quote from Katie the other day
talking about how like how he just the amount of
energy Lebron brings every day, how it's like contagious and
a basketball season is a grind. It's hard to bring
it every day. So when you have a guy that
brings that energy, it just kind of lifts everybody up
and then you get a little bit more out of
every practice and it just makes it better. Obviously, the
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selects team, that whole process includes the famous scrimmage against
the actual national team, and it's like goes all the
way back to nineteen ninety two when they actually beat
the Dream Team, right, and so this is kind of
a famous game for basketball players. Like where did that
stack up for you with your other core memories as
a basketball player, Like you played in that famous game,
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Like what was that experience? Like?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It was absolutely incredible. I use that word a lot,
but that's really the only way to have to describe it.
I would say, you know, you got guys Lebron, Steph, Katie,
you know Kawhi, you know some of the younger guys
as well, like Tyree's an ant. You know, this collective
together as a team. It's like the NBA is in
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a transitional period. You got guys like you know, Lebron, Steph,
kd On there, you know, who knows how many years
they got left, and you know they're on the floor
together at the same time, and you never know when
that's ever going to happen again. So just to be
able to be in that position experience that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, especial shout out to Steph, Kde and Lebron for
like still being this good as the younger generation is
coming up, because it kind of makes for this cool experience,
Like I was at the game on Wednesday and like
seeing the bench unit come in and bring all of
their youthful energy, but then also watching the starters get
off the way that they did. It's such a cool
basketball team because it's like two completely different generations playing together.
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Let's get into your NBA career. So before we get
into some of the specifics, did you actually have like
pretty good intel that you were going to end up
in Miami or was that a surprise to you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I didn't have intel, but I had faith. Okay, I
was going to land there. I didn't know for sure,
but I don't know. After one number eighteen was called
to pick, I just had a feeling that my name
was going to be called.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's awesome. You obviously had a very successful first NBA season.
You played over two thousand minutes for a playoff team.
The heat were two point two points per one hundred
possessions better with you all on the floor versus when
you were off. According to Cleaning the Glass, you had
nine to twenty point games. So to put it simply,
you were a good rotation player for a good team
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right away as a rookie, which is super rare in
the NBA. Was did you have any goals going into
that season that you lived up to or is there
anything that like, did you have any other specific goals
for next season, like a next step you want to
get to in your second campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I was having this conversation actually the other day about
goals and mindset and you know, expectations, and one of
the things that I've learned is that, you know, I
go in to have no expectations and just be ready
for my opportunity. So I went into my rookie season,
you know, not really knowing what was going to happen.
The the NBA season is so crazy, so many ups
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and downs. You know, guys get hurt, and then you know,
it's an opportunity for me to step in and be
able to play my game. And then so that's kind
of what happened. And then you know, this next year,
obviously you know everyone's pretty much healthy. So you know,
my job is just to be prepared as I can,
you know, for whatever opportunity calls, and just be ready
(09:05):
to play my game and go out there and help
win games.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's actually a really interesting point because every season has
a different roster, a different health based on you know,
how things go over the eighty two games, so your
role could shift from year to year, and so yeah,
like you can't let your personal goals get in the
way of that. You have to just be ready for
whatever's next. That's kind of what it is. You know,
You're just ready for whatever comes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You know, one day, you know you're asked to, you know,
handle the ball, to play play the point guard. The
next day you're asked to, you know, guard the best player.
So I just try to be ready for anything at
all times.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I actually have a quick follow up on that. How
much harder was defending at the NBA level compared to
the Pack twelve level. Were you like blown away by
the speed? Like was it a tough transition?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I think well, when you talk about college basketball,
everything is so condensed and packed in the paint, whereas
you go in the NBA and you know there's three
second three seconds defensive and the key, so so you
know there's not anyone there, and it's a little bit
wider of a court. The spacing is just much bigger,
so there's a lot more room. So defensively, it's definitely
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makes it a lot more of a challenge because you know,
in college you got guys helping. You know, you get beat,
there's a guy helping on the baseline for you. And
you know that's not always the case in the NBA.
You know, you try to, but it's it's just a
lot harder.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, you like containing in space. It feels like it's
one of the most important things you have to be
able to do now. And like we even saw with
the Celtics in the finals, it's like if when you
can drive and kick and get the defense in rotation,
it just makes everything so much easier, and so being
able to contain the ball is so important. So obviously
every good basketball player has like a healthy amount of
respect for the Miami. Their organization is famous for good reason,
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their championship organization. Obviously, like you've been a fan. I
would assume of Spoe and of Jimmy and Vam from Afar,
But like you were in the trenches with those guys
this year, So what was that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like, Man, it was a it was a great experience.
There was no other people I'd rather be in the
trenches with than those guys. You know, I suppose one
guy that you know talk about bringing every day, that
guy brings it every single day to practice, you know,
Jimmy and Bam the same way. You know, it was
just a it was just a perfect storm for me
to be able to go in and learn from those
guys right away. And I was just really blessed to
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have that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I actually think Eric Sposer is the best coach in
the NBA, I would agree, And he's kind of a
psycho competitor. How does that like personality meshin with the
locker room? Does it almost like feel like there's just
another player in there because he's just as amped up
as you guys are.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh definitely. I mean that guy is always, uh all,
his mind is always racing thinking about basketball plays and
what he can do to, you know, help our team
get better. You know, I was telling they just asked
me a question. You know. One of the funniest moments
or craziest moments. I remember, Coach Spoe was lifting in
the weight room, well like he always does in the mornings,
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and I walk in and he's listening to you know,
zig Ziggler. I was born to win. I don't know
if anybody knows what zig ziggler is. Do you know
what that is? I don't I needed and I. But
I walked in and I was like, what is going on?
I was warrant win and you know it was like
something that was like almost hypnotizing him. And you know,
I was listening to it while I was working out.
It was, it was, it was. It was an interesting
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experience for sure. So zig Zigglar everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And he was a He was a guard I want
to say at the mid major level, wasn't he? If
I remember correctly, Like he played in college, so like,
I'm sure he's just wired like most most people that
come up through that mid mid major level too, where
they just have a chip on their shoulder and they're
always super super competitive. He came up through the film room,
so like that dude is grinded for everything that he's had.
So it just fits so nicely with your guys' identity.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I would agree. I would completely agree. He brings it
every day. You know, he always has that chip on
his shoulder. That's kind of our our identity as the
Miami Heat and part of our culture.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So I want to dive into your game for a
little bit. You were an excellent post player right away.
This year, you averaged one point twenty six points per
possession including passes. According to Energy, out of sixty three
players in the NBA last year that ran at least
seventy five post up you ranked post ups, you ranked third. Okay,
so you were one of the very best post players.
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You were one of the best post players in the
NBA last year. You personally, on your own shot attempts
out of the post shot fifty percent. Like what, it
really looked like it clicked for you. When I went
back and watched your film, it looked like it clicked
for you. That junior year at UCLA was the year
where you really started to develop that post game. What
drove you to to develop your low post game.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I would say watching Kobe Bryant working from the elbows,
work from the post, you know, mid post, low posts,
all of that. So he was one guy I really
looked up to. DeMar de Rosen is another guy. You know,
the face of game, the pivots, everything, the fakes. So
those are guys I really looked up to. And you
know when I was a well, when I was a kid,
I would go to the park all the time and
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just you know, work on my game, just me versus nobody,
and just try to be as creative as I could be,
you know, thinking of moves and how it gets scored
to basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, one of the specific things you do really well,
most most basketball players when they go into a drop
step have to pick up their dribble. Like so they'll
spin towards the baseline and they'll pick up their dribble,
and so if they don't get a decent look, they're
in trouble. They're like trapped down there. And one of
the things you do is you keep your dribble alive
as you go into that half spin, like as you
drop step back and forth, and so you kind of
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do like almost like a post up from the three
point line sometimes where you're just kind of spinning and
spinning until you get into the lane. That's like a
little piece of like footwork and and just you know,
coordination that I know you worked insanely hard on behind
the scenes. So like what is your skill training regimen, Like,
Like what in the off season do you have like
a super regimented day by day kind of approach do
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you have like, oh, this day I work on post work?
Like what is what is the process of making yourself
the best possible basketball player?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You can be.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
What does that look like, Well.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I would say, for you know, specifically post subs. I
think the only way you really get good or great
at that is by going against somebody and having someone
guard you in those areas. So that's something that I
really like. I like going against live competition. But as
far as regimen, I mean, you know, one of the
things I like to I like to get up a
lot of shots. I like to get shots on the
move stan stills, you know, mid ranges, trying to everywhere floaters,
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get up as many shots as I can. And then defensively,
you know, work on my defense, you know, guard guys.
Instead of me just playing you know, one on one
versus them, I'll go and guard and work on my
work on my defense, try to find angles and really
play around with stuff like that. So it's all to me,
you know, thinking creatively about how I can be the best,
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what works and what doesn't. And that's really the approach
that I take.
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Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's interesting because like there are there are a lot
of young basketball players that play too much and they
don't do enough skill work. But then there are also
players that do so much skill work and they're not
going against live bodies, and you have to go against
live bodies. And I find that fascinating because specifically with
your post game, you are a master of leverage on
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the ground. Because I actually wanted to ask you about this.
I saw a tweet going around or just one one
of the videos of that scrimmage against Team USA and
you were driveling up the floor against Lebron and you
attacked him in the post and you drew a foul
on him, and we all remember the famous shot from
the and I'm a Laker fan, so it was a
little devastating for me. But you hit like a left
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shoulder fade along the right baseline over Lebron that was
going everywhere. But then I started digging through your film
and it's like, oh, here's he's taking a step back
in the post against Isaiah Stewart, Like oh, he's got
Herb Jones on him, and he just posted him up
and hit a hook shot over the top. You have
this like obsession with the attacking taller players in the post,
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like are you just challenging yourself or do you see
an advantage there?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, I would say, I don't know. I hear
what you're saying. I mean, Herb Jones, I think we're
about the same height. I the story is definitely tall.
But as far as attacking other players, I think you
know it's expected, you know, especially you know if you're smaller,
No big guys expecting a smaller guy to post them up.
And you know that's a place where I feel comfortable,
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and a lot of the times you know they're you know,
they're expecting something else. So it kind of is a
is a switch in their mind, something that they're not expecting.
And you know, when I see a big guy, I
try to, you know, face up, try to take them
off the dribble, and if I can't, then you know,
I just get back to what I know, try to
post up. And you know a lot of the times,
you know, you pump take a big guy there, most
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of the time they're going to jump. So you know,
that's something that I always keep in the back of
my head.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, and then again it goes back to that ground
battle piece, Like that's what I think of when I
watch you in those situations, Like you're seeing that you
can win the battle on the ground. I can pivot
around this guy, get to my spot, and then you
have the left shoulder fade, you have the right shoulder fade,
you have the left shoulder hook. So like those are
all over the top shots anyway, they're designed to be
hit over length. So like I think you see that
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you just have an advantage there and that and that
you can go to work. Let's uh, what do you
think is your biggest area of improvement for a player
As a player.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Right now, I would just say for me, being consistent
knocked down three point shooters one of the things that
I'm looking to to really improve this offseason, as well as,
you know, just being a hound on defense, being able
to you know, guard the best player on the opposing
team and shut them down.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah. You your junior year at UCLA, according to Synergy,
you got zero point seven to nine points per jump shot,
zero point eight seven. The next year zero point nine
to one with Miami. So you're steadily tearing up as
a jump shooter every year. And it's funny because I
listen to people like either commenting underneath my videos or
just people talking about basketball on Twitter, and they're under
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the impression that, like, you just go in for a
summer and you can come out a great jump shooter.
And it's like, no, it's a grind. You got to
shoot thousands and thousands of jump shots every single day
for months and months and months, and it's a slow grind.
And so there's obviously signs that you're making improvements on
that front, And honestly, I would imagine that's something that
they need within that Miami offense actually have a follow
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for you on the.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Post up stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Did Eric Spolstra approach you and say like, hey, I
watched her film at UCLA. I saw how successful you
are attacking matchups in the post Let's incorporate that or
did you demonstrate it? And then everyone was like, Oh,
he can do this, Let's let's try to build this
out more.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I would say he definitely watched his film because some
of the sets that we ran were like almost identical
to the ones I ran at UCLA. So I think,
you know, that's just how great of a coach he is.
He knows what his player's strengths are and he tries
to you know, expose that on the court and then
give us an opportunity to play to our strengths. And
that's just what makes him such a great coach. And
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you know, going back to you know, the jump shooting thing,
that's one of the things that we talk about a
lot is you know, success is not linear. You know,
it's not a straight uphill. You're gonna go down, you're
gonna go up, and then you're gonna go down again,
and then you're gonna go up and then you know,
to see those jumps. It takes time and it's like
you said, it's a grind.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, especially with jump shoot because jump shooting is it's
such a head game too, because you can go cold
and miss four or five in a row even if
you're doing everything right, and it can just be frustrated.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So mental, it's it's such such a mental thing. You
shoot somebody shots, you're like, how do I miss? So
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So specifically with spolshra, was there a set? Is there
a specific set that they would draw up for you
to get a bucket that was your favorite that you
can think of, like in the huddle, it's like we're
running this for high may he's going to attack this matchup.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is thereveryone that you have in mind? Yeah, there's there's
a few that I like. The cross green on the
baseline is one that sticks out to me. And then
we have a little nose where I catch it around.
Uh well they set it downscreen for me and I
and you know go up around to the elbow winging
area and then catch it and pick a roll. So
those are those are two much.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That get you to a good spot at the defender
and trail positions, you have a little bit of an
advantage for sure. Was it hard for you to pick
up Miami's offense or was it pretty like it was
a pretty standard read and react five out stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I mean, you know, it's basketball. I think the difference
in the NBA versus colleges and the NBA a lot
of actions versus sets. You know, we got to get
to this action. Okay, let's get to another action. You know,
usually you got you got two ball swings and then
you need a shot because of the short you know,
twenty four seconds and versus college where you can swing
the ball maybe three times and get a shot. But
(22:16):
it's all actions. It's all you know, basketball stuff. So
it wasn't too complicated. So you played with Jimmy Butler. Obviously,
this is a guy that you probably were fan of
from Afar for a long time. What was it like
being his teammate? I mean it was great, man. You know,
that was my favorite player growing up, so you know,
now to be his teammate, it's it's a little weird,
(22:37):
you know, having you know, one of your idols now
become you know, one of your teammates slash friends. So
it's it was such a cool experience.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And then you're doing commercials together and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Have you guys had some battles in practice?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, we had some battles, you know, the one on one.
That's something that we do a lot after practice is
have one on ones and you know, from different spots,
whether it be the low post elbows, even on the wings,
and then shooting competitions as well, it gets it gets competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Did you talk some trash to you at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, we definitely try to test me for sure.
You know, I stepped my ground, which I think you know,
he respected.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So so what's the plan for the rest of the summer.
You're gonna take some time off after the Select team?
Are you going to get right back into it?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh? Well I got a game tomorrow, so oh okay,
yeah I'll be playing here. Oh you're playing with Summer League. Yeah,
that's already three three tomorrow. I got a game. So
you know, it's been working continuing. We have practice this
morning and then you know, got a game tomorrow. Excited
for it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What's different about Summer League this year compared to last year?
Do you just feel like so much more confident?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, I mean I was confident before. I think I
just got a year of the league under my belt,
and you know, now it's not the first time of league,
it's a second. So that's pretty The biggest difference.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Are the summer league practices. Is that do you feel
like you get a lot out of them? Do you
feel like this is a good offseason workout for you anyway?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, for sure. I mean any practice as you do,
I think is good practice. You know, you have to
also practice with intentions, so you know, it would be
able to get out here, you know, connect with some
of the guys, you know, Kalou Pele or two draft picks.
It's been great seeing how they work and operate and
getting to connect and you know, start you know, being
that guy that welcomes the new guys and like you know,
(24:17):
they did they did to me the last year.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
All right, we'll one last question before we get out
of here, before we wrap up. I saw some awesome
merch here at the Chase Free at the Brotherhood Deli
presented by Chase Freedom and the MVPA designed by Scoot Henderson.
That's a pretty awesome collaboration. And there's also some limited
edition mini basketballs by Susai, are you walking out here
with one of those?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
They'll give me one. I'll I got here with a
sue side basketball all right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Guys, Hi Man, thank you so much for taking the
time to sit down. I sincerely appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Good luck to you with the rest of the Summer League.
Good luck, but next season I'll be here to tomorrow watching.
I'll be covering you closely next year. You've been one
of my favorite players for a long time. It was
awesome to sit down and talk some hoops with you. Everybody.
Thank you so much for the support as always, and
we will see you next time.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Thank you the volume.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What's up guys? As always, I appreciate you for listening
to and supporting hoops tonight. It would actually be really
helpful for us if you guys would take a second
and leave a rating and a review. As always, I
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