July 25, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin gives some predictions for the college football season
Thoughts on how people were wrong about Jim Harbaugh
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It's out War two. It's a Thursday,
live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making as part
of your day. So JMAC, Big Ten Media Days, SEC
Media Days last week, Big Ten this week. College football
going to a twelve team playoff this year. That's number one.
Number two is the sport's going to be really feel
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more like the NFL. And this is what the networks wanted,
including this network. They want to construct an AFC NFC
looking college football two haphazard, too many conferences, Texas, Oklahoma
moving to the SEC, four PAC twelve teams moving to
the Big Ten. And don't be shocked if the Big
Ten doesn't eventually add Notre Dame and the SEC adds
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Florida State and Clemson, and then you've got a twelve
team playoff and two or three teams at the bottom,
you know, are teams with no shot to win it,
but they get in the first four teams will have
a bye the next eight playoff. So I do think
j Mac, that there are teams that you can almost
pencil in. Now, Babe, we went and looked at all
the schedules, starting quarterbacks, recruiting momentum, what they did last year.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I do think you got to be careful with
the bottom teams that you know they're just gonna get in.
There are gonna be some upsets in this bad boy.
I just looked at your list. This is this is
pretty mind blowing stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So I think it's Listen, in college basketball, you didn't
know us have sixty eight teams getting in. Every time
they added teams there were more complaints. And in college
football you had a four team playoff and there was
always a complaint about number five. I can't believe you know,
you know Georgia or Alabama loos late in the season.
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You know those guys are top four. So just because
you're adding twelve does not mean you won't have arguments.
So the two teams that better be careful. I think
they're both really good. Tennessee Iowa are really good football teams.
But Tennessee plays Georgia late and the SEC. They're not
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gonna put in six SEC teams. They may put in five.
I think for sure they'll put in four. So a
team like a Tennessee is going to look the part.
But that Georgia game late if they don't win it,
and I don't think they do, could be a team
that's absolutely top twelve and doesn't get in. Iowa. Iowa's
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got a really really easy last four or five games,
probably wins all of them. They're from the they'll probably
knock off one of the twelve teams potentially or at
least one of the top fifteen teams. Iowa and ten
to see when I look at their teams, the quarterbacks,
the coach, and the schedules. Boy, they better get some
early season momentum or they're gonna get left out. So
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here to me are the twelve teams that you're gonna see.
We'll build a graphic later and show you the brackets.
But I think Oregon is going to be the best
Big ten team. Georgia, Ohio State, Texas and Bama. I
think those five teams will feel better than everybody in
college football. Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas and Alabama. Florida
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State I believe will win a very weak conference. Excellent
coaching staff, good recruiting momentum. They'll get in Penn State again,
really soft schedule early, really soft schedule late, and their
offense has some eye candy. I think they get in
LSU is interesting. I'm betting on the coach, Brian Kelly.
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They lose Jaden Daniels and they've sort of struggled defensively.
I think they get the defense right and they get
in Notre Dame. I do not think is a great team,
but I think Notre Dame schedule. If they beat USC
in their final game and it's in Los Angeles, the
rest of their schedule, I have a hard time believing
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Notre Dame will be left out. It's a money grab.
I know you don't want to believe it, but that's
college football. Ole Miss with Lane Kiffin a lot of
eye candy. NFL quarterback forty points a game they're getting in.
Utah wins the Big Twelve. Like Florida State, they win
a weaker conference. I think they edge out Kansas State
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and represent the Big twelve. K State's pretty good. And
then I put in Liberty from the Conference USA. The
rules state you have to take the group of five
conference champions. So the group of five is SEC, Big ten,
Big twelve, ACC Conference USA. So it's going to be
Boise State or Liberty. Now, the last time we saw
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Liberty in a big game, they got boat raced by
then they couldn't compete. But I think it's gonna look
like that now again it is. I'm I've got Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU,
and Ole Miss. I have five teams. I wouldn't be
shocked if Tennessee replaces LSU. But I think there's gonna
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be a very very good SEC team left out in
favor of Utah and Liberty. And so you're gonna have
plenty of arguments.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And with that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports college football reporter The Athletic a
great read. He's at the Big Ten media days. All right,
let's start with this. Anything of those teams jump out
to you as an egregious error in judgment by me.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean five SEC teams.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Colin is a big, bold statement Honestly, I was a
little surprised to see you have LSU in there. Missouri
would be the team that I think is the one
to watch. I mean, they finished last year, you know,
with a great and you know, they got the best
of Ohio State, have almost everybody back, great receivers, Ready
Cook's a really good quarterback, really good offensive line.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know, the schedules are also really really favorable.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's hard for me to look at their schedule and
know what they have personnel wise and not think it worse.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They'd be nine and three.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
You know, I look at LSU and they they lost
three first round picks. They were terrible on defense last year.
I do think Blake Baker, the defensive coordinator, by the way,
came from Missouri, is a good addition. But I'm not
seeing them as a playoff team. I think if there
is a fifth team, and that's a big if because
for one conference to have five playoff teams, I think
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this feels like it's a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is what will be? What will be your your forecast
for the big argument? Who will be?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Who will?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like I said, there's a lot of eye candy with
Penn State. They got a good quarterback, a very easy
late season schedule, So if they stumble against them all
i State they could reel off four big, pretty wins
at the end of the year. So could Iowa. They
won't be as pretty, but they could do it. Is
there a team you look at and say, man Tennessee
to me if they lose that late Georgia game. Is
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there a team to you that you think is going
to be on the outside looking in and they're really
really talented.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, I'm curious what happens with Old Miss right.
They have a talented quarterback, They've upgraded in the trenches
through the portal on both sides of the ball way,
better defensive defensive lineman, some really good offensive line. They
took two who are starters on that team that played
for the national title at Washington. But you know, the
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expectations on this team are really building. You know, you
look at them and say, Okay, this should be the
year Lane Kiffin makes a playoff team. I mean, the
last time Lane Kiffin had big expectations on them was
when he was at USC and they were preseason number one,
and that team didn't even finish in the top twenty five.
I think Lane Kiffin's come a long way from that,
but I also think that they're still an SEC team
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playing a really rough schedule and to get through it
when now all of a sudden, you know, there's all
these big expectations on it. That's going to be interesting
to see how that program handles it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So Lincoln Riley yesterday or the day before had a quote,
and I'm sure people at USC didn't love it, where
he said, listen, we've come a long way, but we
got to upgrade facilities in the NIL. Well I know
for fact that USC doesn't have Oregon's NIL, but they's
somewhere between twelve and fifteen million. They've actually done a
really good job rebooting that in the last year. And
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it did sound a little to me. It landed like, Okay,
it's a little excuse making Harbaugh won ten games overnight
at Michigan and there was no NIL, Like you're a
big brand, it's la. Where where are you with Lincoln
Riley and this team? Boy, they are bruce, they are young. Offensively,
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it's like freshman and sophomores everywhere as they venture into
a much tougher conference. Where are you on Lincoln and
the Trojans.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know, I think it feels like a reset right now.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
They're three years in and it feels like it's kind
of back to square one perception wise. And look, Caleb
Williams and Jordan Addison and Lincoln covered up a lot
of flaws because they were awful before he got there.
I mean, Brock, Youwar and I were part of the
crew that did the last USC UCLA game and it
was a mess. The culture of that of that program
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was toxic. And I think when Lincoln got there, I
think there were steps that were taken, but there were
still a lot of flaws within it that he inherited
that were still there.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
And I think, you.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Know, again, I think Caleb williams greatness, you know, overcame
a lot of that. But then last year, you know,
the defense was the personnel was is awful on defense,
and I think that was something that they just could
not overcome. The offensive line was worse last year and
the schedule got harder. So I think that's why we
saw them, you know, struggle to be you know, there
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were a seven win team at the end of the
regular season, they got beat by UCLA. You know, I
like the hires that Lincoln has made. On defense, Danton
Lynn did a really good job at u c l A.
The challenges. I think Danton Lynn had better talent at
UCLA than he's going to have this year at USC.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And there's no.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Lieout to a lot to on that USC defense. There's
nothing close to that in the you know, in the
defensive front. And I think that's going to still be
a problem for them. You know, Can they be an
eight win team?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Can they be play a real playoff contender? I doubt it,
you know. And they have good young receivers. I think
Miller Moss will will play well. But the problem I
think perception wise Colin is it doesn't look like they're
recruiting that well and it doesn't feel like for all
to talk about the nil part, you know, it was
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it was all over the place when Lincoln got there.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That is not his fault.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think that was you know, you had an athletic
department that was in disarray.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I think it was a great move for them to
get Jen Cohen, the ad who came from Washington. Now
there's like real eight real people in the athletic department.
Before it was kind of a It was kind of
like all smoke and mirrors. So I think there's some
promising signs. But how are USC fans going to feel
if their team goes seven and five again? You know,
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I think that's a tougher sell, but they need to
see and it's a tough sell to recruits.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Also, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
You're not turning down Georgia for some of the SEC
schools to go for a place that's defense has been
really bad the last few years. So they got to
get I feel like they got to get good before
they can even think about being a playoff contender at
this point. And that's why I feel like it's really
kind of a reset for Lincoln right now.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, Ryan Day lost his last three games to Jim Harball,
and in all three games, no question, Michigan was the
more physical team took over the games in the second half.
Ohio State was pretty and was fun and was talented
and has great recruiting, but I didn't feel like I
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didn't know what Ohio State was other than talented. I
sometimes feel that with Sark teams, they're talented that Harbaugh,
Saban Kirby smart build cultures. Sark and Ryan Day to
this point build rosters and that matters too. But I
look at Ryan Day and I'm like, Okay, you lose
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that game in Eugene. Are the Wolves out? I know
it sounds ridiculous because he only loses the Michigan and
maybe a Georgia, But I do feel like there's some heat.
I think people look at this conference and go two
teams have way better players and way better nils. That's
what it feels like to me, like Harbaugh puts almost
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more weird pressure on him because the best coach is gone.
Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, you're crazy? But be that as it may. I think,
what would you have to losing to Oregon.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
At Oregon, it's not like all of a sudden he's
going to get fired or he's gonna his seat's going
to get that much hotter. It'd be losing to Michigan,
especially they lost the entire offensive line. No JJ McCarthy,
A lot of the leaders are gone, and obviously Jim
Harbaugh now lives by us on the West Coast and
is coaching the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I think they'll still be a good team.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't think they're a you know, a top five,
top ten team at Michigan. So if they were to
lose that game, and that game is in Columbus this year,
you know, then that would be a brutal one for him.
But I still think, you know, you look at the
success he's had. I also like some of the moves
he's made. He made some tough decisions. You know, he
gave up play calling, and I think to bring in
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Chip Kelly, who by the way, is as good in
the run game as anybody in college football, I think
that piece will be critical to them because if you're
going to be good in the run game, you're going
to be physical. I think that kind of sends a tone.
I'm not saying that Ryan Day when he certainly when
Antj's out and some of the other great receivers that
also they have, there was it was like playing seven
to seven.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
That's I don't think that's that's fair.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I don't think their problems, to me are not what
like USC and Lincoln's problems are in terms of like
that perception.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
They still have really talented receivers.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Everybody's raving about Jeremiah Smith will be the next great
star there as a freshman receiver. But they have a
lot of really good defensive players who decided I'm going
to hold off on the NFL and I'm gonna come
back for one more year. To me, I know, you
who you have as your preseason number one, this would
be my preseason number one.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I think there this is the year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I don't want to say it's a national championship or bust,
because I think if they lose, you know, in the playoff,
deep in the playoff, after beating Michigan, I don't think
you can turn the page on a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Guy who has the success he has had. And also,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
That you know, one of those years when they lost
to Michigan, they came within a field goal of beating Georgia,
a team they were beating by you know, two touchdowns
going into the fourth quarter, and if they make that
field goal at the end of the day game, they're
beating TCU and they're winning a national title. So I
think people there know he's a terrific coach, and I
think they know there's a lot of good things, you know,
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in place, as you mentioned in IL, they really ramped up.
I think they have some you know, some new leadership
and key places there. You know the Oregon game will
be huge, but I don't think win or lose it's
gonna to me. The Michigan game again will be the
one where it's like, that's the must win. You know,
it's not any you know, again, it's a long way
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between now and then.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
But I think that you're going to see this team as.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Much better than it's been because they will be multi
dimensional and they will be physical in the run game. Again,
they haven't been that way for a couple of years.
They will be this year.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I want to talk about Sark and not not the SEC,
just Sark. I think the twelve team playoff is a
huge benefit for Sark. And here's why, because he's going
to make this playoff with his recruiting every year he's
at Texas, and he may never win a national title
when it's a four teamer and you can't get in
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with the Texas budget, that's a punitive off season. But
like college basketball coaches, you can go to your donors,
your boosters, your ad and say we've made the tournament
twelve years in a row. I think more than any program,
Texas tends to be almost delusional in its belief system,
and they have good players. But I think it really
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benefits Sark because I think he'll win a Natty. But
I think George is loaded, Kaylin de Boor is great.
Oregon Ohio State are equally as good and maybe an
easier conferences that let's talk about that Texas runs through coaches.
They've got multiple billionaires in their donor group. I think
the playoff more than any coach. It's an advantage for
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Sark and the impatience of Longhorn boosters. What say you?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I would agree.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I also think Colin, what you have is they came
off a great year last year. I know they didn't
win the national title, but they came within a play
of getting to the game. And I think considering where
Texas has been and honestly considering where he had been,
you know, when he got to Washington was the first
time head coach coming out of USC.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
The program was awful, they didn't win a game. He went,
he took them.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
From awful to respectable, but then he kind of hit
a ceiling and then obviously went to USC and it
was a debacle, you know, for issues from you know,
off the field, for him personally, he seems like he's
grown a lot since then, and I know he's grown
a lot as a coach because he took a lot
of the things from that he learned under Nick Sabe.
Also took some of Nick Sabans best coaches and brought
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them to Austin. So I think he's got a really
good staff. And you know, towards that part of the playoff,
I think Sark is a guy whose reputation like they
won't be able to recruit really well because there are
going to be kids who are going to say, hey,
you know this guy knows exactly what he's doing, offensive
he's a great play caller.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I think that's going to make it.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Attractive for guys who sit there and think about NFL
as much as NIL And you know, you're right, I
don't think they need to now. At some point, he's
gonna have to win a national title. And I honestly
think after seeing what I saw last year, I think
at some point he is going to win a national title.
I don't know if it's going to be this year.
I mean, I want to see Quinn Wers taking another step.
He took a big step last year, but I think
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they're in position because what he's done really good is
He's Texas used to have one of the most disappointing
offensive lines in college football.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's Texas, you should have good linement. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
They do now, and I think that's something they're keep
building on. So I think they're going to be you know,
I don't say the SEC is up for grabs because
Kirby's still there. Obviously Saban's not. But I think right
now for recruits who don't remember when Sark was at
USC and much you know, certainly don't remember at Washington,
I think they only know of you know, recent history,
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and to me, that's something they can really sell. And
I think, like you said, the money people, I think
at Texas they're all on board. Plus they have a
really good who's really good at at at you know,
raising everything in the support piece of it, in Krystal Connie.
So I think this is these are good times right
now for University of Texas new football, especially you know,
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for Sark.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Great stuff, Bruce Feldman, Big ten media game, Hey good
see anybody.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Good seeing Collins. We'll see us soon.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah. The twelve team playoff, in a strange way, reduces
a little bit of tension for coaches. Is that you
got your Sark and you're like, dude, I've made the
playoffs seven straight years. Hard to fire that guy, And
you're I mean, Sark would win games in the tournament, right,
Like it's it's harder for an athletic director. The college
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football has always been like great or if you don't
make the top four, is a power conference or a
power team like Ohio State. I mean, like Ryan Day
is getting heat. He only loses to Hardball and Georgia,
But a twelve team playoff virtually guarantees Bama, Ohio State,
in my opinion, Oregon, Texas, Georgia, those five are gonna
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make it every year. And I like that because I
think the carousel and the heat on the coaches is ridiculous.
Twelve to more playoff teams you have, it's harder to
fire coaches. And there are certain brands in college football.
I got news for it. Ohio State's making this puppy
every year. If Sarks at Texas they're making it every year.
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Kaylin de Bor and Bama are making it every year.
Kirby Smart and Georgia every year. Now there's a second
tier of teams like an LSU of Penn State, they
should make it two out of three years. But again,
James Franklin is going to be in this thing a lot.
There's just too the bigger these conferences get. You have
a very weak middle and end. I mean you go
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look at Penn State schedule. Penn State faces one team
on their schedule with better players.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean you start now at a lot of these
conferences that are going to have sixteen teams and eventually
like twenty teams. You got like six WS guaranteed if
you can split your big games. Ohio State's getting in.
You just don't want to lose back to back games
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Lot of stuff going on right now. James Jones will
join us in studio. Former Raider and Packers is going
to be joining us today. Camp's opening up. Russell Wilson's
hobbling around justin Fields getting snaps. Today, Aaron Rodgers has
some interesting video coming out. Lighting it up at Jets practice.
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Without further Ado J Mack with a news no, no,
this is.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The herd line news.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So you've been teasing it for ninety minutes. Here we
have video footage of Aaron Rodgers deep check Garrett Wilson
streaking for the easy touchdown. Now listen, if you want
to get excited as a Jets fan. Forget the pass,
forget the catch, forget the bad coverage. Look at the
clean pocket Aaron Rodgers is operating from. Look at that
couldn't get through Tyron Smith and left tack. I mean
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the offensive line jelling like that is bad.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Looks like a cement wall.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Basically, you got to get through that to get to
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It feels good, doesn't it. Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is happy.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
He does.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
His legs look fine and look gimpy, doesn't look panicked
in the pocket. Look at that easy action for Rogers. Now,
some people, of course, are going on lines, say, what
about the coverage?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It was horrible.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, I guess the expected the defense to get through
and Wilson's fast, but it's gonna come down to the
offensive line. It's not a sexy topic, but that's really
the Jets season in a nutshet.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I think we both agreed.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Rods was running for his life early in the fourth
NATS he played against Buffalo Alaska. So it's if they
hold up, you know, maybe they penetrate your Super Bowl bubble.
They're close, they're on fringes. I know you're excited, very exactly.
Just one question, in all honesty, are you you don't
root for teams, but are you rooting for the Jets
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given their sad sack history.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, I root for stories. I'm rooting for Harbaugh too,
And if you look at their schedule to get off
to a really good start. I mean I talked about
this yesterday Kamala Harris and Donald Trump and JD. Vance
and whoever the Democrat VP pick is. It is going
to be the most turbulent, nasty. It's already getting really
ugly already. Oh god, it's brutal, brutal, And so the
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bottom line that will suck viewers from sports shows in
September and October. Now the elections like November fourth, so
we'll be fine, But the first thirty percent of our
season is going to be to some degree overwhelmed by
this title wave of angst and anger and venom and
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the presidential debate. So there are stories I'm rooting for.
I said this yesterday, Harbaugh getting a thresh start, really
nice start, Chicago, Caleb Williams looking like the next star quarterback,
and I think Aaron Rodgers getting hurt or playing poorly
hurts us. I think a big, major market New York team,
and it's not going to be the Giants. The Jets
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have better personnel. If the offensive line is good, the
Jets are going to be a nice team. Great, I
don't know, but I don't think it serves us, and
I'm loyal to ratings. What is what are the factors
that enlarge the audience? And I think for us we
need a New York team. Can you imagine a Chicago
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team and a New York team all locked in on
their star quarterbacks playing great? That is great because right now,
it's funny a lot of the best quarterbacks are in
smaller markets undesirable, Yeah, I mean or like historically like
Detroit and Green Bay and Kansas City and Cincinnati and Baltimore,
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and a lot of the great quarterbacks are in small markets.
What's really interesting is the NFL's popularity as both New
York teams stink.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
DC stinks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Chicago has been stinking forever, like major markets have not delivered.
The Rams are good, but it's hard to get major
fandom in Los Angeles it's so distracted, so many teams.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But it's interesting you said small markets had some of
the best quarterbacks. Those small markets. You know what else?
They don't have NBA teams.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
A lot of them don't, right.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And you know, NFL's America sport. They don't play football
around the world. Like I think people are gonna latch on.
It doesn't matter what they're The markets good or not.
But I will say it's interesting. We saw the New
York Knicks in the playoffs. How they galvanize that city.
Can you imagine what the Jets would do to an
NFL city that It's like they haven't had a lot
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to cheer about in the last five years. The Jets
and Giants have been two of the worst teams in
the league and the.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yankees, I mean outside of Aaron Judge, who consistently hits
at the top of their lineup. So if the Yankee
season ends quickly, that's another reason people. So I'd say
it again, I am rooting for the Jets to be good.
And if you look at their schedule, one of the
best things that could happen to any sports show Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets upset the Niners.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
That will just be competitive, just be You lose twenty
four to twenty three on a Lake Deald goal, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
That to me is like a win.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hey, we're in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I mean, basically one of the best.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Teams in the got You've got rebuilds at the top Tennessee, Denver,
New England, Minnesota. You beat San Francisco, go five and zero.
That is doing us a solid.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Look at it this way. The Jets are facing Will Levis,
Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nicks, Sam Donald, Like, that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Should be four straight wins.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't want to hear any and no excuse win
those dafens.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It should be absolutely all right.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Next up is there's a report that indicated Jalen Hurts
and Nick Sirianni are still trying to find common ground
interesting alleged beef here. According to the Athletic, their relationship
is a work in progress due to their different personalities.
Eagles camp open this week and Jalen Hurts cut off
the first question, had his press conference to make a statement.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Who decided to be back aside to go through this
journey and go through the season, whateveryone here. You know,
from everyone, No, and I truly trust uh trust miss Lewry,
I trust how I trust Chrisci to lead us in
that right direction. But I think to win championships, to
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be the team we want to be, everyone has to
buy into that role and everyone has to you know,
Gon be fully committed to do another part of helping
the team. So I'm excited to go on to Giant.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm excited too.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm writing up a piece for Fox sports dot Com
NFL MVP bets Jalen Hurts currently plus fifteen hundred. We
talked about the schedule. By Halloween. Jalen Hurts could be
like clearly the best quarterback in line.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I'm actually excited for Sakwan Barkley, who was played in
his career behind the bottom three offensive line every year.
So now he has a better quarterback, he has a
better offensive line and tremendous perimeter weapons. What does that mean?
Safeties can't stack in the box. So not only in
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New York did the Giants have a bad offensive line,
like beyond bad. They had no perimeter weapons, so it
allowed safeties to cheat in playing the box. So now
it's great, o'd line, better quarterback who often on those
you know on a lot of the carries, keeps it.
I think Sa Kuan's gonna pop. I think the last
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place the Giants wanted him to go was Philadelphia. If
he stays healthy, he will leave the league in rushing
that old line, those weapons, no safeties in the box,
He's gonna have a huge year.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's a take leave the league in rushing. Just the
injury history. They're not gonna want to wear him down,
save him for the playoffs, right, not quite running back
by committee, but I don't expect to see a lot
of tush push action with Jalen Hurts. Remember Kelsey's gone,
so now you have Barkley, you feel more confident handing
it off to is a by team. Eagles to keep
an eye on a final story, Colin is in the NBA.
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Kevin Durant returned to Team USA practice as he returned
from that calf injury. He participated in non contact drills
and was part of scrimmages. If you go on Instagram,
there is a good video of like an inter squad
scrimmage and Durant look pretty damn good. Steve Curse said
Durant looked great, but he is unsure if Kad will
be able to play Sunday versus Serbia. Here is the
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scrimmage to have a seat there.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh that would have been great to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love I love Olympic practice video. Oh yeah, I
mean he says all great players practice video. I still
watch that Michael Jordan Magic Larry Bird laying down on
the side of the court Dream Team video. No, I
think you pointed this out. Our bigs are not necessarily
perimeter guys, BAM and a d so to have length
(30:30):
and shooting is kind of the thing missing with this
team right now. I think their defense will be fine,
but most of our bigs are true bigs. Bamin a
d are true bigs. Embid thinks he's a three point shooter,
but he's also a true big. He can just handle
the ball better. But we need length that can shoot
to pull out their bigs.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
So a week from today we get our first preseason game.
I'm pretty sure. Right next Thursday and this Sunday we
get USA Serbia. So the next week, starting Sunday, USA Servia.
I know we smashed them with Colin, but Donovia didn't play. Jokic,
I think you might have sat out the entire fourth
quarter like it was. It was a weird situation. I
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wouldn't be betting this game. I think it will be close.
USA survey on Sunday and it sounds like Durant probably
won't go. I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I'm excited, but a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
J Manck with a news.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
This is such an interesting time of the year. It's
the cross your fingers time of the year when camp starts.
You're not gonna get any great news over the next month.
Nothing's gonna happen that's gonna be great. You could get
horrible news in a season, you can get great and horrible,
but this is the time, this is the only time
of the year. In the draft, what are you gonna get?
(31:48):
What's horrible news? In the draft? What's horrible news? In
free agency? There's really no horrible news. There's one month
of the year where it only goes in one direction.
You can only have your season ruined, not elevated. I
mean you could say, well, oie, our rookie right tackles
really look good. That's not great news.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's hope.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is the only month to five six week period
of the year in football. It only goes one way.
The traffic goes one way, horrible news. If you found
tomorrow c J. Stroud out for the year injury terrible news.
What's the best news you could get? All the offensive
lines cohesions been excellent, doesn't mean anything. So to me,
this is the finger crossing expedition of the football season.
(32:33):
All I do is go on all day and look
at injury reports and depth charts, and it is what
it is.
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Speaker 1 (34:08):
So twelve team playoff college football. It's gonna be a
bit quirky. The four highest conference winners get buys doesn't
mean the the four best teams. Here's what I think
the bracket will look like. Here's my prediction. Obviously, it's
not gonna be perfect, but I think Oregon beats Ohio
State in Eugene, wins the Big Ten. I think Utah
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wins the Big Twelve, edging out a very good Kansas
State team, Florida State wins the weaker se ACC, and
Georgia wins the SEC. So those teams will get buys. Oregon, Utah,
Florida State, Georgia the highest rated team that doesn't get
a bye as Ohio State, but they'll get the weakest
first round team, Liberty from Conference USA into Utah, who will,
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in my opinion, be the weakest second matchup, so Ohio
State will actually get two easier games than an Oregon
team would get in their first game, which I think
they'd play Penn State that would beat LSU. But for
our radio audience, we have a little bracket here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
My guess is Alabama beats Notre Dame and faces Georgia.
I don't know who. I take Texas beats Old Miss
and then beats Florida State. Ohio State hammers Liberty and
probably beats Utah convincingly. Penn State beats LSU. I'll take
Oregon to beat Penn State. So I think in the end,
I think we're going to get Oregon Ohio State in
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the final four along with Texas and Georgia. Is my guest.
I think Alabama is better than people think. I think
Kalin de Bores are rockstar as a head coach. So
that's kind of where we go on it. Remember you say, Liberty,
what about this? I would have no problem with six
SEC teams getting in Now. I'm taking a bit of
a flyer on LSU because I think Brian Kelly's a
(35:57):
good coach. They upgraded coordinator Bruce Feldman said, keep your
eye on Missouri entirely possible. I think you have to
keep your eye on Iowa. I think you have to
keep your eye on Tennessee. But Tennessee plays Georgia late
in the year, and if they don't win that game,
they'll they're They're not gonna win the SEC. Tennessee is
not as good as Bama, Georgia or Texas, and I
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don't think they're as good as Old miss They may be,
but if they lose that Georgia game late, my gut
feeling is Tennessee is going to be the best team
left out and Iowa's going to be the second best
team left out. Now where is USC? I think USC
got a scheduling break, And let's talk about the Trojans
No Oregon and no Ohio State huge break. Michigan and
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Washington lost star quarterbacks and most of their offense, so
those are totally winnable games, even though they play in
n Arbor and in Seattle. They open up with an
LSU team. I think they lose that game, but USC
got a huge scheduling break. They also get Penn stayed
at home and Notre Dame at home. So this idea
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that USC is going to be a seven win team,
I think if Miller Moss is healthy, they're gonna win
nine games just on schedule. I don't think they beat LSU.
I'm not sure at home if they can beat Penn
State or Notre Dame. But they don't face the buck guys,
and they don't face the Ducks. And Washington's in a
complete rebuild, having lost their OC who was great, their
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star quarterback. They're two best receivers, their best offensive linemen,
and they don't have great defense at personnel, and their
recruiting's been since Jedfish got there. Okay, not great, But
here's Lincoln Riley this week on turning around the Trojans.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
You're building for the teams you know that you're gonna
play and what you feel like it's going to take
to win those games you're in and you're out.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
In your conference, But then you know there's also a
bigger picture for us.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
We're building to be a in the national championship race
every single year, and that's.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's what you come for.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
At USC.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
We didn't take over one that was a national championship tender,
just walk into it right like this was a revamp,
and so this has been a rebuild. From a roster standpoint,
It's to be honest with you, it's a lot like
Harbaugh Michigan. So the year before Jim Harbaugh gets to Michigan,
they're five and seven. The year before Lincoln Riley gets there,
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they're four and eight, and they are bad with almost
no NFL players, certainly no first round talent. In year one,
they massively overachieve. I watched Michigan live that year. I
watched USC twice live. They were good. They weren't special,
but they still didn't have any NFL talent of note.
In year two, they're good, but you start hearing criticisms
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of Lincoln he didn't know defense, or of the polarizing
Jim Harbaugh. Have you getting hammered by Ohio state fraud?
Year three you actually get pulled back by Harbaugh. They
can't quite get the quarterback right.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And year three for Lincoln Riley they're predicted the winds
seven and a half games, and the question is the
quarterback position. So I think with Harbaugh and Lincoln they're polarizing.
They took over big brands that were absolutely awful. Michigan
was awful. Thirty percent of the Big House was empty,
the coliseum was empty. So and they didn't have any
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NFL first round talent. The difference is then Harbaugh, you're four, five, six.
Then it started to look different. Then it was even
when he was losing to Ohio State, they had seven
eight NFL guys, and so USC like Harby's going into
year three and I think they're going into a much
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tougher conference, get a bit of a scheduling break, much
tougher conference. I think they'll win eight or nine. But
you forget that Harbaugh in year three, he was losing
to Michigan State. You can lose to the Buckeyes. You
can't lose to Michigan State, and he was. They lost
him a couple of times. There were a lot of
people selling their stuff on Jim Harbaugh after year three,
(40:03):
a lot, and you were all wrong. And there were
a couple people Joel Klatt and I were a couple
of people. We kept saying, are you people out of
your mind? They're gonna be fine. I'll say the same
thing with Lincoln Riley. USC's nil is twelve to fifteen
a year. It's not Oregon, but it's really good. You
start looking at their schedule. There's a lot of wins here. LSU,
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it's on a neutral field, winnable. I'll give them an
l Utahs state. Michigan's in an utter rebuild, and we
don't know if their coach can coach Wisconsin at home,
Penn State home, Rutgers home, Nebraska home, UCLN or rebuild
Notre Dame home. That feels like to me. Eight wins
(40:50):
I think at Washington LSU are really really tough games.
Notre Dame right now has better players, so.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
You can bet on to make the college football playoffs,
right they have odds for those. So I looked at USC.
Do you want to guess what they are to make
the playoff?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Twenty five to one, No, no, no, twelve to one only.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Plus four hundred, so they have like a good chance. Now,
there's several teams ahead of the movie we haven't talked
about at all, But the one team you've missed is
the Michigan Wolverines. I know they're replacing a lot colin
plus one fifteen to make the playoff.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
That's all you gotta do is make the playoffs. They
are rebuilding both their lines completely. They didn't only lose
guys to the NFL. They lost all their team leaders.
They lost their eight team leaders, they lost seven of them.
So it's not just losing talent, they lost the soul
of their team. Harbaugh and all those senior offensive defensive
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line there. I think Michigan's going way. I think Penn
State's good in that conference. Iowa's good. SC's good. I
think Washington's fine. Oregon and Ohio State are great.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
The only teams you seem to have missed other than
Michigan are the Missouri Tigers.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Now they're good. They just return everybody, yeah plus five
to make the playoffs, so now they're they're in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
They're not there the s C. Yeah, Clemson plus one ninety.
I gotta see this f SU team. If they're that
legit coming.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, I think they have. F s u's got a
great coach. I think the staff can win you eight
games a year in college football, and then your talent's
going to win you the next three
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It's out War two. It's a Thursday,
live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making as part
of your day. So JMAC, Big Ten Media Days, SEC
Media Days last week, Big Ten this week. College football
going to a twelve team playoff this year. That's number one.
Number two is the sport's going to be really feel
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more like the NFL. And this is what the networks wanted,
including this network. They want to construct an AFC NFC
looking college football two haphazard, too many conferences, Texas, Oklahoma
moving to the SEC, four PAC twelve teams moving to
the Big Ten. And don't be shocked if the Big
Ten doesn't eventually add Notre Dame and the SEC adds
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Florida State and Clemson, and then you've got a twelve
team playoff and two or three teams at the bottom,
you know, are teams with no shot to win it,
but they get in the first four teams will have
a bye the next eight playoff. So I do think
j Mac, that there are teams that you can almost
pencil in. Now, Babe, we went and looked at all
the schedules, starting quarterbacks, recruiting momentum, what they did last year.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I do think you got to be careful with
the bottom teams that you know they're just gonna get in.
There are gonna be some upsets in this bad boy.
I just looked at your list. This is this is
pretty mind blowing stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So I think it's Listen, in college basketball, you didn't
know us have sixty eight teams getting in. Every time
they added teams there were more complaints. And in college
football you had a four team playoff and there was
always a complaint about number five. I can't believe you know,
you know Georgia or Alabama loos late in the season.
(02:05):
You know those guys are top four. So just because
you're adding twelve does not mean you won't have arguments.
So the two teams that better be careful. I think
they're both really good. Tennessee Iowa are really good football teams.
But Tennessee plays Georgia late and the SEC. They're not
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gonna put in six SEC teams. They may put in five.
I think for sure they'll put in four. So a
team like a Tennessee is going to look the part.
But that Georgia game late if they don't win it,
and I don't think they do, could be a team
that's absolutely top twelve and doesn't get in. Iowa. Iowa's
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got a really really easy last four or five games,
probably wins all of them. They're from the they'll probably
knock off one of the twelve teams potentially or at
least one of the top fifteen teams. Iowa and ten
to see when I look at their teams, the quarterbacks,
the coach, and the schedules. Boy, they better get some
early season momentum or they're gonna get left out. So
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here to me are the twelve teams that you're gonna see.
We'll build a graphic later and show you the brackets.
But I think Oregon is going to be the best
Big ten team. Georgia, Ohio State, Texas and Bama. I
think those five teams will feel better than everybody in
college football. Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas and Alabama. Florida
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State I believe will win a very weak conference. Excellent
coaching staff, good recruiting momentum. They'll get in Penn State again,
really soft schedule early, really soft schedule late, and their
offense has some eye candy. I think they get in
LSU is interesting. I'm betting on the coach, Brian Kelly.
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They lose Jaden Daniels and they've sort of struggled defensively.
I think they get the defense right and they get
in Notre Dame. I do not think is a great team,
but I think Notre Dame schedule. If they beat USC
in their final game and it's in Los Angeles, the
rest of their schedule, I have a hard time believing
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Notre Dame will be left out. It's a money grab.
I know you don't want to believe it, but that's
college football. Ole Miss with Lane Kiffin a lot of
eye candy. NFL quarterback forty points a game they're getting in.
Utah wins the Big Twelve. Like Florida State, they win
a weaker conference. I think they edge out Kansas State
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and represent the Big twelve. K State's pretty good. And
then I put in Liberty from the Conference USA. The
rules state you have to take the group of five
conference champions. So the group of five is SEC, Big ten,
Big twelve, ACC Conference USA. So it's going to be
Boise State or Liberty. Now, the last time we saw
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Liberty in a big game, they got boat raced by
then they couldn't compete. But I think it's gonna look
like that now again it is. I'm I've got Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU,
and Ole Miss. I have five teams. I wouldn't be
shocked if Tennessee replaces LSU. But I think there's gonna
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be a very very good SEC team left out in
favor of Utah and Liberty. And so you're gonna have
plenty of arguments.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And with that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports college football reporter The Athletic a
great read. He's at the Big Ten media days. All right,
let's start with this. Anything of those teams jump out
to you as an egregious error in judgment by me.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean five SEC teams.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Colin is a big, bold statement Honestly, I was a
little surprised to see you have LSU in there. Missouri
would be the team that I think is the one
to watch. I mean, they finished last year, you know,
with a great and you know, they got the best
of Ohio State, have almost everybody back, great receivers, Ready
Cook's a really good quarterback, really good offensive line.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know, the schedules are also really really favorable.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's hard for me to look at their schedule and
know what they have personnel wise and not think it worse.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They'd be nine and three.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
You know, I look at LSU and they they lost
three first round picks. They were terrible on defense last year.
I do think Blake Baker, the defensive coordinator, by the way,
came from Missouri, is a good addition. But I'm not
seeing them as a playoff team. I think if there
is a fifth team, and that's a big if because
for one conference to have five playoff teams, I think
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this feels like it's a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is what will be? What will be your your forecast
for the big argument? Who will be?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Who will?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like I said, there's a lot of eye candy with
Penn State. They got a good quarterback, a very easy
late season schedule, So if they stumble against them all
i State they could reel off four big, pretty wins
at the end of the year. So could Iowa. They
won't be as pretty, but they could do it. Is
there a team you look at and say, man Tennessee
to me if they lose that late Georgia game. Is
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there a team to you that you think is going
to be on the outside looking in and they're really
really talented.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, I'm curious what happens with Old Miss right.
They have a talented quarterback, They've upgraded in the trenches
through the portal on both sides of the ball way,
better defensive defensive lineman, some really good offensive line. They
took two who are starters on that team that played
for the national title at Washington. But you know, the
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expectations on this team are really building. You know, you
look at them and say, Okay, this should be the
year Lane Kiffin makes a playoff team. I mean, the
last time Lane Kiffin had big expectations on them was
when he was at USC and they were preseason number one,
and that team didn't even finish in the top twenty five.
I think Lane Kiffin's come a long way from that,
but I also think that they're still an SEC team
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playing a really rough schedule and to get through it
when now all of a sudden, you know, there's all
these big expectations on it. That's going to be interesting
to see how that program handles it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So Lincoln Riley yesterday or the day before had a quote,
and I'm sure people at USC didn't love it, where
he said, listen, we've come a long way, but we
got to upgrade facilities in the NIL. Well I know
for fact that USC doesn't have Oregon's NIL, but they's
somewhere between twelve and fifteen million. They've actually done a
really good job rebooting that in the last year. And
(08:32):
it did sound a little to me. It landed like, Okay,
it's a little excuse making Harbaugh won ten games overnight
at Michigan and there was no NIL, Like you're a
big brand, it's la. Where where are you with Lincoln
Riley and this team? Boy, they are bruce, they are young. Offensively,
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it's like freshman and sophomores everywhere as they venture into
a much tougher conference. Where are you on Lincoln and
the Trojans.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know, I think it feels like a reset right now.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
They're three years in and it feels like it's kind
of back to square one perception wise. And look, Caleb
Williams and Jordan Addison and Lincoln covered up a lot
of flaws because they were awful before he got there.
I mean, Brock, Youwar and I were part of the
crew that did the last USC UCLA game and it
was a mess. The culture of that of that program
(09:29):
was toxic. And I think when Lincoln got there, I
think there were steps that were taken, but there were
still a lot of flaws within it that he inherited
that were still there.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
And I think, you.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Know, again, I think Caleb williams greatness, you know, overcame
a lot of that. But then last year, you know,
the defense was the personnel was is awful on defense,
and I think that was something that they just could
not overcome. The offensive line was worse last year and
the schedule got harder. So I think that's why we
saw them, you know, struggle to be you know, there
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were a seven win team at the end of the
regular season, they got beat by UCLA. You know, I
like the hires that Lincoln has made. On defense, Danton
Lynn did a really good job at u c l A.
The challenges. I think Danton Lynn had better talent at
UCLA than he's going to have this year at USC.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And there's no.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Lieout to a lot to on that USC defense. There's
nothing close to that in the you know, in the
defensive front. And I think that's going to still be
a problem for them. You know, Can they be an
eight win team?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Can they be play a real playoff contender? I doubt it,
you know. And they have good young receivers. I think
Miller Moss will will play well. But the problem I
think perception wise Colin is it doesn't look like they're
recruiting that well and it doesn't feel like for all
to talk about the nil part, you know, it was
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it was all over the place when Lincoln got there.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That is not his fault.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think that was you know, you had an athletic
department that was in disarray.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I think it was a great move for them to
get Jen Cohen, the ad who came from Washington. Now
there's like real eight real people in the athletic department.
Before it was kind of a It was kind of
like all smoke and mirrors. So I think there's some
promising signs. But how are USC fans going to feel
if their team goes seven and five again? You know,
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I think that's a tougher sell, but they need to
see and it's a tough sell to recruits.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Also, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
You're not turning down Georgia for some of the SEC
schools to go for a place that's defense has been
really bad the last few years. So they got to
get I feel like they got to get good before
they can even think about being a playoff contender at
this point. And that's why I feel like it's really
kind of a reset for Lincoln right now.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, Ryan Day lost his last three games to Jim Harball,
and in all three games, no question, Michigan was the
more physical team took over the games in the second half.
Ohio State was pretty and was fun and was talented
and has great recruiting, but I didn't feel like I
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didn't know what Ohio State was other than talented. I
sometimes feel that with Sark teams, they're talented that Harbaugh,
Saban Kirby smart build cultures. Sark and Ryan Day to
this point build rosters and that matters too. But I
look at Ryan Day and I'm like, Okay, you lose
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that game in Eugene. Are the Wolves out? I know
it sounds ridiculous because he only loses the Michigan and
maybe a Georgia, But I do feel like there's some heat.
I think people look at this conference and go two
teams have way better players and way better nils. That's
what it feels like to me, like Harbaugh puts almost
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more weird pressure on him because the best coach is gone.
Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, you're crazy? But be that as it may. I think,
what would you have to losing to Oregon.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
At Oregon, it's not like all of a sudden he's
going to get fired or he's gonna his seat's going
to get that much hotter. It'd be losing to Michigan,
especially they lost the entire offensive line. No JJ McCarthy,
A lot of the leaders are gone, and obviously Jim
Harbaugh now lives by us on the West Coast and
is coaching the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I think they'll still be a good team.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't think they're a you know, a top five,
top ten team at Michigan. So if they were to
lose that game, and that game is in Columbus this year,
you know, then that would be a brutal one for him.
But I still think, you know, you look at the
success he's had. I also like some of the moves
he's made. He made some tough decisions. You know, he
gave up play calling, and I think to bring in
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Chip Kelly, who by the way, is as good in
the run game as anybody in college football, I think
that piece will be critical to them because if you're
going to be good in the run game, you're going
to be physical. I think that kind of sends a tone.
I'm not saying that Ryan Day when he certainly when
Antj's out and some of the other great receivers that
also they have, there was it was like playing seven
to seven.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
That's I don't think that's that's fair.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I don't think their problems, to me are not what
like USC and Lincoln's problems are in terms of like
that perception.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
They still have really talented receivers.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Everybody's raving about Jeremiah Smith will be the next great
star there as a freshman receiver. But they have a
lot of really good defensive players who decided I'm going
to hold off on the NFL and I'm gonna come
back for one more year. To me, I know, you
who you have as your preseason number one, this would
be my preseason number one.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I think there this is the year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I don't want to say it's a national championship or bust,
because I think if they lose, you know, in the playoff,
deep in the playoff, after beating Michigan, I don't think
you can turn the page on a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Guy who has the success he has had. And also,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
That you know, one of those years when they lost
to Michigan, they came within a field goal of beating Georgia,
a team they were beating by you know, two touchdowns
going into the fourth quarter, and if they make that
field goal at the end of the day game, they're
beating TCU and they're winning a national title. So I
think people there know he's a terrific coach, and I
think they know there's a lot of good things, you know,
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in place, as you mentioned in IL, they really ramped up.
I think they have some you know, some new leadership
and key places there. You know the Oregon game will
be huge, but I don't think win or lose it's
gonna to me. The Michigan game again will be the
one where it's like, that's the must win. You know,
it's not any you know, again, it's a long way
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between now and then.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
But I think that you're going to see this team as.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Much better than it's been because they will be multi
dimensional and they will be physical in the run game. Again,
they haven't been that way for a couple of years.
They will be this year.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I want to talk about Sark and not not the SEC,
just Sark. I think the twelve team playoff is a
huge benefit for Sark. And here's why, because he's going
to make this playoff with his recruiting every year he's
at Texas, and he may never win a national title
when it's a four teamer and you can't get in
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with the Texas budget, that's a punitive off season. But
like college basketball coaches, you can go to your donors,
your boosters, your ad and say we've made the tournament
twelve years in a row. I think more than any program,
Texas tends to be almost delusional in its belief system,
and they have good players. But I think it really
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benefits Sark because I think he'll win a Natty. But
I think George is loaded, Kaylin de Boor is great.
Oregon Ohio State are equally as good and maybe an
easier conferences that let's talk about that Texas runs through coaches.
They've got multiple billionaires in their donor group. I think
the playoff more than any coach. It's an advantage for
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Sark and the impatience of Longhorn boosters. What say you?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I would agree.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I also think Colin, what you have is they came
off a great year last year. I know they didn't
win the national title, but they came within a play
of getting to the game. And I think considering where
Texas has been and honestly considering where he had been,
you know, when he got to Washington was the first
time head coach coming out of USC.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
The program was awful, they didn't win a game. He went,
he took them.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
From awful to respectable, but then he kind of hit
a ceiling and then obviously went to USC and it
was a debacle, you know, for issues from you know,
off the field, for him personally, he seems like he's
grown a lot since then, and I know he's grown
a lot as a coach because he took a lot
of the things from that he learned under Nick Sabe.
Also took some of Nick Sabans best coaches and brought
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them to Austin. So I think he's got a really
good staff. And you know, towards that part of the playoff,
I think Sark is a guy whose reputation like they
won't be able to recruit really well because there are
going to be kids who are going to say, hey,
you know this guy knows exactly what he's doing, offensive
he's a great play caller.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I think that's going to make it.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Attractive for guys who sit there and think about NFL
as much as NIL And you know, you're right, I
don't think they need to now. At some point, he's
gonna have to win a national title. And I honestly
think after seeing what I saw last year, I think
at some point he is going to win a national title.
I don't know if it's going to be this year.
I mean, I want to see Quinn Wers taking another step.
He took a big step last year, but I think
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they're in position because what he's done really good is
He's Texas used to have one of the most disappointing
offensive lines in college football.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's Texas, you should have good linement. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
They do now, and I think that's something they're keep
building on. So I think they're going to be you know,
I don't say the SEC is up for grabs because
Kirby's still there. Obviously Saban's not. But I think right
now for recruits who don't remember when Sark was at
USC and much you know, certainly don't remember at Washington,
I think they only know of you know, recent history,
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and to me, that's something they can really sell. And
I think, like you said, the money people, I think
at Texas they're all on board. Plus they have a
really good who's really good at at at you know,
raising everything in the support piece of it, in Krystal Connie.
So I think this is these are good times right
now for University of Texas new football, especially you know,
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for Sark.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Great stuff, Bruce Feldman, Big ten media game, Hey good
see anybody.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Good seeing Collins. We'll see us soon.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah. The twelve team playoff, in a strange way, reduces
a little bit of tension for coaches. Is that you
got your Sark and you're like, dude, I've made the
playoffs seven straight years. Hard to fire that guy, And
you're I mean, Sark would win games in the tournament, right,
Like it's it's harder for an athletic director. The college
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football has always been like great or if you don't
make the top four, is a power conference or a
power team like Ohio State. I mean, like Ryan Day
is getting heat. He only loses to Hardball and Georgia,
But a twelve team playoff virtually guarantees Bama, Ohio State,
in my opinion, Oregon, Texas, Georgia, those five are gonna
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make it every year. And I like that because I
think the carousel and the heat on the coaches is ridiculous.
Twelve to more playoff teams you have, it's harder to
fire coaches. And there are certain brands in college football.
I got news for it. Ohio State's making this puppy
every year. If Sarks at Texas they're making it every year.
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Kaylin de Bor and Bama are making it every year.
Kirby Smart and Georgia every year. Now there's a second
tier of teams like an LSU of Penn State, they
should make it two out of three years. But again,
James Franklin is going to be in this thing a lot.
There's just too the bigger these conferences get. You have
a very weak middle and end. I mean you go
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look at Penn State schedule. Penn State faces one team
on their schedule with better players.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean you start now at a lot of these
conferences that are going to have sixteen teams and eventually
like twenty teams. You got like six WS guaranteed if
you can split your big games. Ohio State's getting in.
You just don't want to lose back to back games
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Lot of stuff going on right now. James Jones will
join us in studio. Former Raider and Packers is going
to be joining us today. Camp's opening up. Russell Wilson's
hobbling around justin Fields getting snaps. Today, Aaron Rodgers has
some interesting video coming out. Lighting it up at Jets practice.
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Without further Ado J Mack with a news no, no,
this is.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The herd line news.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So you've been teasing it for ninety minutes. Here we
have video footage of Aaron Rodgers deep check Garrett Wilson
streaking for the easy touchdown. Now listen, if you want
to get excited as a Jets fan. Forget the pass,
forget the catch, forget the bad coverage. Look at the
clean pocket Aaron Rodgers is operating from. Look at that
couldn't get through Tyron Smith and left tack. I mean
(22:35):
the offensive line jelling like that is bad.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Looks like a cement wall.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Basically, you got to get through that to get to
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It feels good, doesn't it. Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is happy.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
He does.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
His legs look fine and look gimpy, doesn't look panicked
in the pocket. Look at that easy action for Rogers. Now,
some people, of course, are going on lines, say, what
about the coverage?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It was horrible.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, I guess the expected the defense to get through
and Wilson's fast, but it's gonna come down to the
offensive line. It's not a sexy topic, but that's really
the Jets season in a nutshet.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I think we both agreed.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Rods was running for his life early in the fourth
NATS he played against Buffalo Alaska. So it's if they
hold up, you know, maybe they penetrate your Super Bowl bubble.
They're close, they're on fringes. I know you're excited, very exactly.
Just one question, in all honesty, are you you don't
root for teams, but are you rooting for the Jets
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given their sad sack history.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, I root for stories. I'm rooting for Harbaugh too,
And if you look at their schedule to get off
to a really good start. I mean I talked about
this yesterday Kamala Harris and Donald Trump and JD. Vance
and whoever the Democrat VP pick is. It is going
to be the most turbulent, nasty. It's already getting really
ugly already. Oh god, it's brutal, brutal, And so the
(23:56):
bottom line that will suck viewers from sports shows in
September and October. Now the elections like November fourth, so
we'll be fine, But the first thirty percent of our
season is going to be to some degree overwhelmed by
this title wave of angst and anger and venom and
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the presidential debate. So there are stories I'm rooting for.
I said this yesterday, Harbaugh getting a thresh start, really
nice start, Chicago, Caleb Williams looking like the next star quarterback,
and I think Aaron Rodgers getting hurt or playing poorly
hurts us. I think a big, major market New York team,
and it's not going to be the Giants. The Jets
(24:40):
have better personnel. If the offensive line is good, the
Jets are going to be a nice team. Great, I
don't know, but I don't think it serves us, and
I'm loyal to ratings. What is what are the factors
that enlarge the audience? And I think for us we
need a New York team. Can you imagine a Chicago
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team and a New York team all locked in on
their star quarterbacks playing great? That is great because right now,
it's funny a lot of the best quarterbacks are in
smaller markets undesirable, Yeah, I mean or like historically like
Detroit and Green Bay and Kansas City and Cincinnati and Baltimore,
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and a lot of the great quarterbacks are in small markets.
What's really interesting is the NFL's popularity as both New
York teams stink.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
DC stinks.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Chicago has been stinking forever, like major markets have not delivered.
The Rams are good, but it's hard to get major
fandom in Los Angeles it's so distracted, so many teams.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But it's interesting you said small markets had some of
the best quarterbacks. Those small markets. You know what else?
They don't have NBA teams.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
A lot of them don't, right.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And you know, NFL's America sport. They don't play football
around the world. Like I think people are gonna latch on.
It doesn't matter what they're The markets good or not.
But I will say it's interesting. We saw the New
York Knicks in the playoffs. How they galvanize that city.
Can you imagine what the Jets would do to an
NFL city that It's like they haven't had a lot
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to cheer about in the last five years. The Jets
and Giants have been two of the worst teams in
the league and the.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yankees, I mean outside of Aaron Judge, who consistently hits
at the top of their lineup. So if the Yankee
season ends quickly, that's another reason people. So I'd say
it again, I am rooting for the Jets to be good.
And if you look at their schedule, one of the
best things that could happen to any sports show Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets upset the Niners.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
That will just be competitive, just be You lose twenty
four to twenty three on a Lake Deald goal, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
That to me is like a win.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Hey, we're in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I mean, basically one of the best.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Teams in the got You've got rebuilds at the top Tennessee, Denver,
New England, Minnesota. You beat San Francisco, go five and zero.
That is doing us a solid.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Look at it this way. The Jets are facing Will Levis,
Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nicks, Sam Donald, Like, that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Should be four straight wins.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't want to hear any and no excuse win
those dafens.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It should be absolutely all right.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Next up is there's a report that indicated Jalen Hurts
and Nick Sirianni are still trying to find common ground
interesting alleged beef here. According to the Athletic, their relationship
is a work in progress due to their different personalities.
Eagles camp open this week and Jalen Hurts cut off
the first question, had his press conference to make a statement.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Who decided to be back aside to go through this
journey and go through the season, whateveryone here. You know,
from everyone, No, and I truly trust uh trust miss Lewry,
I trust how I trust Chrisci to lead us in
that right direction. But I think to win championships, to
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be the team we want to be, everyone has to
buy into that role and everyone has to you know,
Gon be fully committed to do another part of helping
the team. So I'm excited to go on to Giant.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm excited too.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm writing up a piece for Fox sports dot Com
NFL MVP bets Jalen Hurts currently plus fifteen hundred. We
talked about the schedule. By Halloween. Jalen Hurts could be
like clearly the best quarterback in line.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I'm actually excited for Sakwan Barkley, who was played in
his career behind the bottom three offensive line every year.
So now he has a better quarterback, he has a
better offensive line and tremendous perimeter weapons. What does that mean?
Safeties can't stack in the box. So not only in
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New York did the Giants have a bad offensive line,
like beyond bad. They had no perimeter weapons, so it
allowed safeties to cheat in playing the box. So now
it's great, o'd line, better quarterback who often on those
you know on a lot of the carries, keeps it.
I think Sa Kuan's gonna pop. I think the last
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place the Giants wanted him to go was Philadelphia. If
he stays healthy, he will leave the league in rushing
that old line, those weapons, no safeties in the box,
He's gonna have a huge year.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's a take leave the league in rushing. Just the
injury history. They're not gonna want to wear him down,
save him for the playoffs, right, not quite running back
by committee, but I don't expect to see a lot
of tush push action with Jalen Hurts. Remember Kelsey's gone,
so now you have Barkley, you feel more confident handing
it off to is a by team. Eagles to keep
an eye on a final story, Colin is in the NBA.
(29:42):
Kevin Durant returned to Team USA practice as he returned
from that calf injury. He participated in non contact drills
and was part of scrimmages. If you go on Instagram,
there is a good video of like an inter squad
scrimmage and Durant look pretty damn good. Steve Curse said
Durant looked great, but he is unsure if Kad will
be able to play Sunday versus Serbia. Here is the
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scrimmage to have a seat there.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh that would have been great to watch.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love I love Olympic practice video. Oh yeah, I
mean he says all great players practice video. I still
watch that Michael Jordan Magic Larry Bird laying down on
the side of the court Dream Team video. No, I
think you pointed this out. Our bigs are not necessarily
perimeter guys, BAM and a d so to have length
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and shooting is kind of the thing missing with this
team right now. I think their defense will be fine,
but most of our bigs are true bigs. Bamin a
d are true bigs. Embid thinks he's a three point shooter,
but he's also a true big. He can just handle
the ball better. But we need length that can shoot
to pull out their bigs.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
So a week from today we get our first preseason game.
I'm pretty sure. Right next Thursday and this Sunday we
get USA Serbia. So the next week, starting Sunday, USA Servia.
I know we smashed them with Colin, but Donovia didn't play. Jokic,
I think you might have sat out the entire fourth
quarter like it was. It was a weird situation. I
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wouldn't be betting this game. I think it will be close.
USA survey on Sunday and it sounds like Durant probably
won't go. I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I'm excited, but a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
J Manck with a news.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
This is such an interesting time of the year. It's
the cross your fingers time of the year when camp starts.
You're not gonna get any great news over the next month.
Nothing's gonna happen that's gonna be great. You could get
horrible news in a season, you can get great and horrible,
but this is the time, this is the only time
of the year. In the draft, what are you gonna get?
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What's horrible news? In the draft? What's horrible news? In
free agency? There's really no horrible news. There's one month
of the year where it only goes in one direction.
You can only have your season ruined, not elevated. I
mean you could say, well, oie, our rookie right tackles
really look good. That's not great news.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's hope.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is the only month to five six week period
of the year in football. It only goes one way.
The traffic goes one way, horrible news. If you found
tomorrow c J. Stroud out for the year injury terrible news.
What's the best news you could get? All the offensive
lines cohesions been excellent, doesn't mean anything. So to me,
this is the finger crossing expedition of the football season.
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All I do is go on all day and look
at injury reports and depth charts, and it is what
it is.
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Speaker 1 (34:08):
So twelve team playoff college football. It's gonna be a
bit quirky. The four highest conference winners get buys doesn't
mean the the four best teams. Here's what I think
the bracket will look like. Here's my prediction. Obviously, it's
not gonna be perfect, but I think Oregon beats Ohio
State in Eugene, wins the Big Ten. I think Utah
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wins the Big Twelve, edging out a very good Kansas
State team, Florida State wins the weaker se ACC, and
Georgia wins the SEC. So those teams will get buys. Oregon, Utah,
Florida State, Georgia the highest rated team that doesn't get
a bye as Ohio State, but they'll get the weakest
first round team, Liberty from Conference USA into Utah, who will,
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in my opinion, be the weakest second matchup, so Ohio
State will actually get two easier games than an Oregon
team would get in their first game, which I think
they'd play Penn State that would beat LSU. But for
our radio audience, we have a little bracket here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
My guess is Alabama beats Notre Dame and faces Georgia.
I don't know who. I take Texas beats Old Miss
and then beats Florida State. Ohio State hammers Liberty and
probably beats Utah convincingly. Penn State beats LSU. I'll take
Oregon to beat Penn State. So I think in the end,
I think we're going to get Oregon Ohio State in
(35:34):
the final four along with Texas and Georgia. Is my guest.
I think Alabama is better than people think. I think
Kalin de Bores are rockstar as a head coach. So
that's kind of where we go on it. Remember you say, Liberty,
what about this? I would have no problem with six
SEC teams getting in Now. I'm taking a bit of
a flyer on LSU because I think Brian Kelly's a
(35:57):
good coach. They upgraded coordinator Bruce Feldman said, keep your
eye on Missouri entirely possible. I think you have to
keep your eye on Iowa. I think you have to
keep your eye on Tennessee. But Tennessee plays Georgia late
in the year, and if they don't win that game,
they'll they're They're not gonna win the SEC. Tennessee is
not as good as Bama, Georgia or Texas, and I
(36:19):
don't think they're as good as Old miss They may be,
but if they lose that Georgia game late, my gut
feeling is Tennessee is going to be the best team
left out and Iowa's going to be the second best
team left out. Now where is USC? I think USC
got a scheduling break, And let's talk about the Trojans
No Oregon and no Ohio State huge break. Michigan and
(36:42):
Washington lost star quarterbacks and most of their offense, so
those are totally winnable games, even though they play in
n Arbor and in Seattle. They open up with an
LSU team. I think they lose that game, but USC
got a huge scheduling break. They also get Penn stayed
at home and Notre Dame at home. So this idea
(37:04):
that USC is going to be a seven win team,
I think if Miller Moss is healthy, they're gonna win
nine games just on schedule. I don't think they beat LSU.
I'm not sure at home if they can beat Penn
State or Notre Dame. But they don't face the buck guys,
and they don't face the Ducks. And Washington's in a
complete rebuild, having lost their OC who was great, their
(37:26):
star quarterback. They're two best receivers, their best offensive linemen,
and they don't have great defense at personnel, and their
recruiting's been since Jedfish got there. Okay, not great, But
here's Lincoln Riley this week on turning around the Trojans.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
You're building for the teams you know that you're gonna
play and what you feel like it's going to take
to win those games you're in and you're out.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
In your conference, But then you know there's also a
bigger picture for us.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
We're building to be a in the national championship race
every single year, and that's.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's what you come for.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
At USC.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
We didn't take over one that was a national championship tender,
just walk into it right like this was a revamp,
and so this has been a rebuild. From a roster standpoint,
It's to be honest with you, it's a lot like
Harbaugh Michigan. So the year before Jim Harbaugh gets to Michigan,
they're five and seven. The year before Lincoln Riley gets there,
(38:19):
they're four and eight, and they are bad with almost
no NFL players, certainly no first round talent. In year one,
they massively overachieve. I watched Michigan live that year. I
watched USC twice live. They were good. They weren't special,
but they still didn't have any NFL talent of note.
In year two, they're good, but you start hearing criticisms
(38:43):
of Lincoln he didn't know defense, or of the polarizing
Jim Harbaugh. Have you getting hammered by Ohio state fraud?
Year three you actually get pulled back by Harbaugh. They
can't quite get the quarterback right.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And year three for Lincoln Riley they're predicted the winds
seven and a half games, and the question is the
quarterback position. So I think with Harbaugh and Lincoln they're polarizing.
They took over big brands that were absolutely awful. Michigan
was awful. Thirty percent of the Big House was empty,
the coliseum was empty. So and they didn't have any
(39:19):
NFL first round talent. The difference is then Harbaugh, you're four, five, six.
Then it started to look different. Then it was even
when he was losing to Ohio State, they had seven
eight NFL guys, and so USC like Harby's going into
year three and I think they're going into a much
(39:41):
tougher conference, get a bit of a scheduling break, much
tougher conference. I think they'll win eight or nine. But
you forget that Harbaugh in year three, he was losing
to Michigan State. You can lose to the Buckeyes. You
can't lose to Michigan State, and he was. They lost
him a couple of times. There were a lot of
people selling their stuff on Jim Harbaugh after year three,
(40:03):
a lot, and you were all wrong. And there were
a couple people Joel Klatt and I were a couple
of people. We kept saying, are you people out of
your mind? They're gonna be fine. I'll say the same
thing with Lincoln Riley. USC's nil is twelve to fifteen
a year. It's not Oregon, but it's really good. You
start looking at their schedule. There's a lot of wins here. LSU,
(40:28):
it's on a neutral field, winnable. I'll give them an
l Utahs state. Michigan's in an utter rebuild, and we
don't know if their coach can coach Wisconsin at home,
Penn State home, Rutgers home, Nebraska home, UCLN or rebuild
Notre Dame home. That feels like to me. Eight wins
(40:50):
I think at Washington LSU are really really tough games.
Notre Dame right now has better players, so.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
You can bet on to make the college football playoffs,
right they have odds for those. So I looked at USC.
Do you want to guess what they are to make
the playoff?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Twenty five to one, No, no, no, twelve to one only.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Plus four hundred, so they have like a good chance. Now,
there's several teams ahead of the movie we haven't talked
about at all, But the one team you've missed is
the Michigan Wolverines. I know they're replacing a lot colin
plus one fifteen to make the playoff.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
That's all you gotta do is make the playoffs. They
are rebuilding both their lines completely. They didn't only lose
guys to the NFL. They lost all their team leaders.
They lost their eight team leaders, they lost seven of them.
So it's not just losing talent, they lost the soul
of their team. Harbaugh and all those senior offensive defensive
(41:43):
line there. I think Michigan's going way. I think Penn
State's good in that conference. Iowa's good. SC's good. I
think Washington's fine. Oregon and Ohio State are great.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
The only teams you seem to have missed other than
Michigan are the Missouri Tigers.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Now they're good. They just return everybody, yeah plus five
to make the playoffs, so now they're they're in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
They're not there the s C. Yeah, Clemson plus one ninety.
I gotta see this f SU team. If they're that
legit coming.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, I think they have. F s u's got a
great coach. I think the staff can win you eight
games a year in college football, and then your talent's
going to win you the next three
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