July 25, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin defends Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy from criticisms by comparing his resume to other all-time head coaches in NFL history
He shares his Super Bowl bubble for the upcoming NFL season and why the Jets are on the outside of it
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go. It is a Thursday lie in
Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be, however
you may be listening for watch. Thanks for making us
part of your day. First of all, really good pig
ten football stuff. Ohio State oreon Michigan Penn State, A
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honest Lincoln Riley talk, very polarizing. I'll give you my
prediction in one hour from now of the twelve team playoff.
I think it's pretty easy in college football to figure
out many of the teams that'll be there. And we'll
kind of give you a breakdown of the playoff. J
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Mac I was thinking about this. When you have a
great job in any industry, you can make a small
mistake and it becomes, you know, a fire. If you
have a mediocre or an irrelevant job, you can make
a huge mistake and nobody cares. You know, Aaron Boone
for the Yankees, we pick him apart for a seventh
inning decision. Nobody breaks down or discusses the Tampa Bay
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Rays egregiously bad base running air in the ninth inning, Right,
And so I want to start the show with that,
is that the NFL is the biggest sport in America
and it's not really close. We watch it, we gamble
on it, we talk about it, shows like this obsess
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over it. And the two biggest brands in the NFL
to me are the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers.
I'm sorry, but the Pittsburgh Steelers were in the seventies,
but their standard now is Hey, we brag about never
being under five hundred. I don't think you can deny
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the Cowboys win a lot and the Packers win every year, right,
That's just what they do. And they have controversial quarterbacks.
They have massive brands. We would never talk about Green Bay,
Wisconsin if not for the Packers massive, massive brand. Same
with the Cowboys. And there's one guy that's coached both,
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Mike McCarthy. And if you make little mistakes with a
big brand Cowboys, Packers they get blown out, so whenever,
and we don't like to blame the quarterbacks for losses.
We blame Sean McDermott, John Harbaugh, We blame Andy Reid
in Philadelphia. Never Donovan McNabb. We tend to blame the coaches,
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not the quarterback. We wear the quarterbacks jerseys. We have
him on our fantasy team, so he's good to us.
We bet on our quarterback, not on our coach necessarily.
So I was thinking about Mike McCarthy of the Cowboys.
Is he the best coach in the NFL that is
considered a mediocre to a bad coach, And so think
about this. In Green Bay, he had an eight year stretch,
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won a Super Bowl, five division titles seven of eight years.
This is when the NFC was better than the AFC
seven of eight years, double digit wins in Dallas four seasons,
twelve wins three straight years. He's had a top five
scoring offense ten times with multiple quarterbacks, the number one
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offense in the NFL four times, one of them with Dak.
He's never had the mahomes with Josh Allen A Lamar,
one of them with Dak Dak Prescott number one offense
in the league, and he's succeeded at a high level
with three different quarterbacks. Old feisty ad Libber Gunslinger, hard
to coach, Brett Farv prickly young aloof at times arrogant,
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Aaron Rodgers, who wants to do things his own way,
and the highly coachable but kind of limited Dak Prescott. Hell,
he went like four and one with Cooper Rush. Three
different quarterbacks, three different personalities. He's won with all of them. Well,
colony has never won the Big Game. No, No, he
won the Big Game. He Actually, the only time Aaron
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Rodgers has ever won the Big Game in his career
was was with Mike McCarthy. He's won the Big Game. Well,
he just doesn't win enough playoff games. Eleven that's as
many as Bill Parcell's. Well, I mean he did five
hundred playoff coach. Oh, that's interesting. If you don't have
Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. That's what all the great
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coaches playoff records are. Mike McCarthy's eleven and eleven, John
Harbaugh twelve and ten, Mike Holmgren Great coach thirteen eleven,
Sean Payton nine to eight, winning his coach ever Don
Shulo with Dan Marino nineteen seventeen, Pete Carroll five hundred,
Ditka five hundred, Tony Dungee, Mike Tomlin under five hundred.
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If you don't have Brady or Mahomes, that is what
your playoff record looks like if you're a great coach.
So McCarthy inherited the old Brett Farv, who, as you know,
was already talking retirement. McCarthy went thirteen and three with him.
He was feisty, he didn't want to make any changes.
He was stubborn and gifted, and McCarthy had a great
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year with him. And then there's Aaron who can be
aloof and arrogant and prickly and difficult his best years
and a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Dak. We don't
consider Dak great. That's interesting. He's actually with very few
weapons now that he's paid, had a number one offense
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in the league. So it's just as interesting we're gonna
blame McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And not Dak.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The knock, even the knock on Mike McCarthy, even the
criticism of him, he's in an elite class. The biggest
knock on him is I don't like him. Late game situations.
Do you realize that was the only real criticism of
the best coach in football, Andy Reid his entire time
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in Philadelphia. He's in a very unique elite class. But
he's never had Brady and he's never had Mahomes. And
when that's the case, Aaron and Farv aren't as good
as those guys. I'd argue, the more you inspect it,
it's not necessarily close. So just get ready, he'll be
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on the hot seat. And we're not gonna blame Dak
because Dak's going to have a new contract. It's going
to be almost sixty million a year. You're trapped with Dak,
and it's much easier for fans to blame a coach
who you can fire than a quarterback you're stuck with.
But I would argue Mike McCarthy is the best coach
in the league that's considered a mediocre to bad coach.
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I consider him a B plus coach. I consider Mike
Tomlin a B plus coach. I think if you inspect
Pete Carroll, he's a B plus coach. Those are good
grades mostly what I got in college in high school.
So Jim Harbaugh the Chargers of open camp and Jim
Harbaugh is a complete breath of fresh air. So the
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Chargers before Harball never really paid their coach big boy money.
But the Chargers didn't just need a coach. If I
told you, and I didn't give you the team, but
I said, in the last twenty five years, there's been
this one NFL franchise. They're almost oh is really good
at quarterback, I mean really good. Yeah, They've had a
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lot of Hall of famers, Like some guys they don't
even draft them and they find them Antonio Gates. They've
had the best running back in the league at any
one time, a top five to seven quarterback at any
one time, the best receiving group at any one time,
the best linebacker at any one time, a Bosa off
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the edge. But this team, I mean they blow leads
like nobody's business. Nobody loses more games they should win
than this team. That team would be the Chargers. They've
had the same owner and the Spanhos family. Complain all
you'll want, but pretty solid ownership. Stay out of the limelight.
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I mean it's not like Dan Snyder, the Bidwells, I
mean the Marras now are getting cross to New York.
It's the Chargers. The Chargers didn't need a coach, they
needed this coach. And Jim was at the podium yesterday.
Just the way it feels, I mean, feels like New
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Year's Day. You know, it feels like being born. Heels
like coming out of the womb. You know, it's like
you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe, and
now you're out, you're born. Lights are on the you know,
it's bright, get chaos. People look people looking at you,
people people talking at you, and uh, just feels good to.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Have it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And here's my prediction on what it'll look like. Just
like Michigan Year one, Harball arrives at Michigan almost no
NFL players, and he wins ten games, massively overachieves rising expectations.
And a couple of years later he actually pulls back
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and only wins eight games. And there's a divide in
the room. Is he too intense for college football? Taking
recruiting trips to Rome, staying at a kid's house. He
will divide people. So the Chargers he will overachieve this year.
Don't be shocked if they win eleven games, maybe twelve.
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Raiders are two wins. Broncos could be two wins. Chargers
always seem to split, don't they? Or play the Chiefs well,
they'll win eleven or twelve games. He'll be intense and
he'll buy year two and three. If he doesn't have
a super Bowl, he'll divide people. But what he will
create is exactly what This franchise, more than any in
the league needs. Toughness, grit, accountability, a plan. They had
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talent forever, Dan Fouts, Winslow, John Jefferson, West Chandler, Philip Rivers,
Keenan Allen, Antonio Gates. This team's had talent forever, but toughness, grit, accountability, vision,
Marty Schottenheimer a few years, that's it. So to me,
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the right coach at the right time, they will massively
overachieve in year one. But because they're in a division
and a conference with Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen
and C. J. Stroud and Joe Burrow, they may not
win a Super Bowl. And by year two and three,
I don't know, you know, he should have stayed at Michigan.
He may be too intense for the new NFL players
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have more power now all of it will be just
like at Michigan, absolute nonsense, and I can't wait for
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
J Mack.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think you and I both believe if you look
at their schedule, they did get a a little favor
from the NFL early in the schedule. Raiders, Panthers early
buy going into a Denver game, Arizona Saints as a
lot of w's here early. I think the league, and
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we know the NFL, has done this with their schedule.
I think the league wants to see Jim harbassucceed and
succeed quickly, and I think he will.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It'd be nice to have them in the playoffs. We're
doing for Herdline tomorrow. AFC playoff Seeds and Chargers.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I don't know what to do with them. Are they
a playoff team or not? Because there's a I mean, well, listen,
the Browns are going to be very good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The history of Harball with the Niners, with Michigan year one,
he exceeds expectations and so this team has some really
good players. They're good at offensive tackle. They upgraded it
running back actually when they if you look at Eckler
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leaving what they brought in. So they're good at edge rusher,
two edge rushers, two good tackles, excellent quarterback, solid at
tight end, pretty good in the secondary. Linebackers that move.
Our question is do they have the weapons? But remember
it's San Francisco. With the Niners, it was Crabtree. We
didn't love his perimeter weapons. We love the Niners, we
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didn't love that part. At Michigan they won a natty
Colin Wilson won elite receiver hardball. With this Chargers team,
it looks a little like the Niners and a little
like Michigan, which is not an elite team necessarily on
the perimeter, but tackles in defense, special teams, game planning, toughness. Immediately,
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it's a whole different look, vibe and field.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Hardball's worth at least or upgrade over Stalley at least a.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Win and a half Monthent Oh god, oh that might
be low. I don't know. Oh. I think you're going
from not to pick on anybody, the worst staff in
the league top to bottom, to a top five staff.
I don't think it's worth what was CJ. Stroudworth of
the Texans seven wins. I don't buy that a coach
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is worth a win or two I think Harbaugh's worth
five wins. He's not replacing a really solid coach, Mike Zimmer.
He's replacing a coach that spent most of their money
on defense and was the worst third down, fourth down
situational defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Late game execution of the play calls, it just was
all a disaster for Staley.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't think this is a have said this for years.
The NFL considers a quarterback like worth four and a
half points if you're great, maybe six and a half. Now,
Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers in their prime are worth
eleven and a half points. They don't play, They score
eleven less. A really good football coach isn't worth a touchdown.
You don't think Harbaugh's from the bottom to the near
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top of the league. You don't think he's worth four
to six wins? I do? I mean, do you remember
how bad the Sparrows family does not want to fire
you during a season? They went interim a lot of
the older owners, and they qualify as that they don't
want to do the interim. The interim is very dangerous
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because if you put an interim guy in and he wins,
which interim coaches often do because the inject energy. You're
stuck hiring the interim. Antonio Pearson with the Raiders, you're
stuck hiring him because the locker room falls in love
with him. So interim. Most of the smart older owners
that have been around the block, they don't want to
fire in season because if you give an interim. So
that's how bad Staley was for a franchise that doesn't
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get a lot of media attention. The Spanos family felt
so much heat they had to fire Staley in the season.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, it's like the team quit on it. Remember that
Raiders game. I just had to look it up. Sixty
three to twenty one.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
They lost. Remember that was like a third name was
a defensive coach. I mean it was like they quit.
You could tell. So it's over. We don't want to
play for this guy anymore. That's how bad it was.
I don't think Hardball's worth a win and a half.
I think he's more. Oh, I look at their schedule.
They got an NFL favor. You know they had a
good draft because Harball just came out of college football.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's this new head coach, new oc, new skill position
players everywhere, A lot of newness.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So I remember, newness is great in Houston, when you
go from bad to good. I'm not anti new.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But there were now expectations in Houston last year. Right
It's like, oh, we got a new coach in new
rookie quarterback. We'll say how it goes with hardball. It's
like spotlight on. You know their practices right now? This
week are packed. People are very into this hardball thing.
There is some pressure. There was none in Houston last
year on.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I would say this in Los Angeles, the Dodgers, the Lakers,
the Rams, and USC just in Los Angeles face more
pressure on a weekly basis than the Chargers in Los Angeles.
I mean, Lincoln Riley's getting heat. He took over a
shipwreck one eleven games, year two, they're all over him.
That's pressure. Pressure's not hey, can you just right the ship?
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I mean, I think if he wins ten games, he
will be be parades in LA. And I think if
you look at their schedule, twelve is not off the table.
I'm not I'm trying to. I'm not very positive Collin today.
Mike McCarthy, what a guy. And okay, Charger twelve wins.
Just look at the schedule, find me games. I mean,
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they get Baltimore at home. That's their toughest out of
conference game. Baltimore at home. They get multiple teams with
a coach on the hot seat, a rookie coach, a
rookie quarterback. This is as easy as schedule as you
can get in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Okay, So Browns and Bengals are very very tough games.
Raven very tough games.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So that's put it again. But let's once again. Bengals
at home, Raven's at home. No, churches don't have a
home field Evans. No no, no, they do not no no, no,
no no. Their season ticket sales they do. Now, Harboss
sold seven thousand seats. I'll guarantee you sixty five to
thirty five Bengals. Oh, I think that's so. I think
the charge now.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The game Ravens game is gonna be seventy thirty Ravens face.
Come on, and I know whatdd's with season tickets to
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
They laugh about this. I think they're gonna be good.
I do ten wins. I think ten wins would be great.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
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video out there of Aaron Rodgers at practice lighting it up,
people getting very excited. We've said two of the three
biggest stories this year are going to be Harbaugh Chargers,
Mike McCarthy on the hot seat, Caleb Williams in Chicago,
and Aaron, who hasn't taken but four or five snaps
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here in six hundred days, are close to it. Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets. So he said yesterday he thinks
they're an elite team in a group of teams that
could win it all.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It has to be the goal, I mean beauty is
every single year there's eight to twelve teams, maybe probably less,
but eight to twelve teams that could actually do it.
And we're one of those eight to twelve.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So in my entire life, there's never been twelve teams
that can win the Super Bowl. It's usually about seven
to eight. Here are the last eight teams that have
won a Super Bowl. Now this spans much longer than
eight years, but the last eight teams to win a
Super Bowl are Chiefs, Rams, Bucks, Patriots, Eagles, Broncos, Seahawks, Ravens.
Two things with those groups, you don't have impulsive ownership
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that often feels like the franchise is in chaos. You
do with the Jets. And all those teams had at
least been to a Super Bowl, many had won a
Super Bowl in the previous twenty years. The Jets haven't.
The Jets do have, however, things that super Bowl teams have.
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They have an elite quarterback, and Denver proved even if
your elite quarterback Peyton Manning and Day is way past
his prime, if you have an elite defense the Jets
think they do, and they may, you can win a
Super Bowl. So they got a quarterback they'll past his prime.
And when you have a quarterback in his prime, you
don't need a great defense. If he's passed his prime,
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you do. And the Jets may have had that. Although
the Manning defense had a nickname No Fly Zone, and
was a number one until the defense the Jets last
year were like thirteenth, But in fairness, it's a good defense.
They lost Brice huff If hasan Reddick doesn't sign but
the season, it's not an elite defense yet. Also, generally speaking,
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you have an above average coach. And we don't know
really what Robert sala is right now. We're not sure
he's average. We're not really sure if he's going to
finish the season based on how this thing plays. But
I do believe, and I do this every year. I
have what I call a Super Bowl bubble, and I
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think they're seven or eight teams that I have in
the bubble, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo. In the AFC, it's
better than the NFC at the top, but I think
the Rams, Niners, Detroit, Green Bay, and Philly are in it.
In the NFC, I'll give three AFC teams. I'll put
them on the periphery of it, Bengals, Texans, Jets for
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the Jets, which Aaron Rodgers do I get? I will
say it again. His last year in Green Bay, with
Matt Lafleur and an excellent top three offensive line, he
had a lower passer rating that year than Daniel Jones Cincinnati.
Which Burrow do I get? The great healthy one or
the one watching from the sidelines. And Houston's still really young.
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But man, those last two years of acquisitions. In drafting CJ. Stroud,
does he have a soft more pullback. I didn't include Dallas.
I've told you I think this is the beginning of
their decline. But I do think there's an argument they've
got an elite quarterback, albeit past his prime. They've got
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a potentially good defense if they sign Hassan Reddick. What
I think historically gets in the way of teams like
the Jets is they don't have any momentum. So the
minute they go on a two game losing streak, here
come the knives and the backstabbing. And I don't trust
their ownership, but but I do think they're close. If
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the offensive line stays healthy, if Aaron is upright, I
think they're battling for a postseason. In Week sixteen seventeen,
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
News no, no, no, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Nice to see the green and white there in your
Super Bowl bubble.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Just outside the Super Bowl bubble. I mean, the odds
are with you. Jets have good odds in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
if I think they really are potentially the Denver Bronco
team that won it was Gary Kubiak, a great coach
Peyton Manning was past his prime. They were overwhelmingly carried
by a great defense. If Hassan Reddick signs and Sola
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gets some early wins, which the schedule dictates he could,
then you create momentum. What Denver didn't have. What Denver
did have the Jets hadn't is when Peyton Manning first
got to Denver, they won a bunch of games, and
so they had momentum. They were winning games. So the
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Jets have to create momentum. Almost none of the eight
teams that have won a Super Bowl the last twenty
some years didn't start from zero. They were good the
year before. They've been to a super Bowl seven years ago.
They had cultural momentum. The Jets have none. So it's impairible.
And when you don't have momentum, you go to a
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losing network or a losing law. Of if it's a
losing team, the minute you stumble, everybody has self doubt.
So Baltimore never does, the Rams don't, the Niners don't,
New England, Kansas City. So the one thing nobody discusses this,
to win a Super Bowl, it's a long road and
you're gonna have losing streaks. Kansas City eleven through Week
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fourteen was bad, but there was never a loss of
self doubt or finger pointing the Jets because they're a
losing culture for the last decade plus. You go in
a two, three game losing streak. Aaron, by the way,
doesn't do you any favors. He tends to be passive, aggressive,
and a finger pointer. It's not gonna be that they
lack the reservoir of talent. What happens when they go
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through the undoubtable struggle in this season? They will It's
the AFC three four. The wheels will be falling off
the sky. I say undoubtable, that's not a word. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
All right, Let's go from the Jets who haven't won,
Jack Squatt to the Niners, who are perpetually right there
on the cusp of the Super Bowl. But now Colin,
they start trading camp without two of their top players.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It was expected that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Brandon Ayuk would not be practicing because he's demanded of trade.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
However, he did.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Report on time and is holding in which is a
new thing. However, the other missing piece is Trent Williams,
the hulking left tackle who Shanahan says is holding out
for contract related issues issues.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
This is what happens to old expensive teams. Guys don't
want to get they're not old. They want to kidle.
Trentim Williams is aging. All the rest of their core
players are still in their prime. Anyways, Is this a
nothing burger? What do we got?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Is this all?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think this is what happens to highly talented teams.
Guys take a beating for years. They can see the end.
Trent McCaffrey, they can see the end. They don't have
the trophy yet. They want to make sure they're taken
care of. They've won a lot of games that it's
not necessarily They have a very good culture. But you
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don't get this with the Green Bay Packers of the Lions.
They're very young ascending teams. This is not a young
ascending team. It is a team like a Philadelphia that's
been successful for a lot of years and they want
to grab that trophy again. And I think this is
the natural preseason pattern of teams like this. A lot
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of contract talk, a lot of I gotta get my
it's my last big deal. I want to get that
extra year of guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
How about some extra days off for like a thirty
six or eight. Can I extend my summer over?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They don't win. For the record, they don't win. When
Trent Williams doesn't play right, we know he so keep
him healthy. Who cares if he misses a week at training.
It's Trent Williams. He knows what he's doing over there
are left tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I do wonder if some of this, just a small amount,
is related to Brock Purdy maybe paid next year and
I yuk and Williams saying, yo, I better get paid
before because we're gonna have to lose some.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Guys if they pay party now. I mean, you just
there's three or four guys they can't lose Trent, McCaffrey
and Bosa. You can't lose those guys. Everybody else is negotiable,
even the good guys Hafunga, Fred Warner, who I love,
but he's a linebacker. Move off linebackers. Yeah, I mean
it's there's three guys you can't screw with. Shannan keeps
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his job, Christian, Trent and Bosa. Those are the non starters.
I'm not picking up the phone, not taking a phone call.
Everybody else you're gonna have to make tough decisions tight ends, linebackers, safeties,
age very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right, we got some breaking news here in story
number two is Pittsburgh where Russell Wilson today woke up
with a bit of a CAF issue.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh and is sitting out now.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Listen, we don't know how bad it is, but only
calf I know right now is Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's missed a ton of time on the basketball court.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Mike Tomlin announced this offseason Russ was in position to
get the starting job, but now the campus.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Started, Tomlin isn't giving out any more details. Here we go, Okay,
rust up altation, nothing has changed. How do you plan
on working those rafts with ending job?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Very carefully?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
He guys think I'm actually back myself into a corner.
So you guys are gonna ask me daily about the
rep allocations.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In no way.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I've been on the job too long for that. You
want to understand why he isn't just saying Russ is
the starter, Well, I think he likes to encourage competition.
Here's the thing. Russ should be the starter, but I'm
kind of rooting for Justin Fields to get looks because
I really probably doesn't go there if he doesn't get
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the hang. You know, I absolutely believe he has been
told he's quarterback one, but he likes just playing games.
But they don't want to end the competition. And I
also don't think it's good for the locker room because
I think the young guys are gonna like Justin Fields.
You're gonna watch Justin Field to practice do stuff Russ can't.
He's bigger, he stronger, he moves better. So I think
Justin Fields is gonna buy a lot of credibility in
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that locker room. That's what he did in Chicago. People
were like, it's amazing. His question is game time, red
light comes on? Could you make the play? But I
don't think you want to end this comp First of all,
Russell can be a bit cringy and not always loved
in the locker room. Justin Fields to the very end
in Chicago, everybody loved him in the locker room. So
what you're gonna have is a guy starting that's less
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popular than the backup. And the backup not a recipe
for some, No, no, no it's not. But it's just
I'm not banging on Russ. But Russ has very few
close NFL teammates. He can just change and become very likable.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I don't know who's seattle Man.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It's just for years like it's not likability, it's authenticity,
and people question that. But Fields remember this to the
very end, usually a losing quarterback. As Zach Wilson hit
the road, pal Field's teammates, his best teammates, Jalen Johnson,
DJ Moore, DJ Moose say we need to keep by
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love Justin. So Justin's likable, he's talented, he'll shine in practice.
He's younger, he's cooler, he's authentic. Those players are gonna
like him. But Russell at this point is the better quarterback.
So I think Mike Tomlin understands that I can't be
all all camp Russ. We gotta let this thing play out.
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And I think it's the smart tack by Tomlin.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I mean, either way, they're not going to the playoffs
with dependent regardless of who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right, I think it's probably last place in the division.
If that's last place, that is the best last place
roster in the history of the National Football League. That
roster is good. Oh. I love it's right because they
got all this spend their money on details. Well, by
the way, two backs, I like a star receiver, an
excellent tight end. Running backs, but they're good. Who's got
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a better combination than Najia Harrison Warren? Those guys are great,
very good backs. That the better roster Cleveland Browns or
Pittsburgh Steelers Steelers, No way, not even close.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Steel The Browns are a playoff team last year with
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Coming off the sofa and leading him to the playoffs.
I mean you can argue the playoff spot with Kenny Pickett. Uh, yeah,
that's true. Yeah that happened. Who's the third on somebody's
depth chart right now, Mike Tomlin or Stefanski? I know
Tomlin historically has been better. I think is, in my opinion,
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the best coach nobody puts in that class.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Okay, and now how about this one, Deshaun Watson or
Russell Wilson DeShawn Okay, So the Browns are better than
the Steelers at quarterback and coach and which you love.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And you've got the Steelers ahead of them in the
vision because only one of those is massively dysfunctional. I
think you need to revisit the Browns final story.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
In a recent survey about survey about the best NFL quarterbacks,
one executive said Josh Allen was one of the more
overrated players in the league. Bill GM Brandon Bean has
an issue with that comment, and here's what he said yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
There's idiots everywhere. I don't know where to start. It's
frustrating you try to ignore this stuff like that. Josh
is going into year seven and there's still the naysayers.
I don't get it. I know people love the rankings
of whoever, But when you don't put your name to it,
or and you make comments like that, like who is
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this executive? If you're not going to put your name
on it, we really shouldn't validate it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I don't think anybody really believes he's overrated. Well somebody,
but you're just I think you're just saying that to
take shots of people like nobody thinks he's that he's
not a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He has to be on any list top three in
the league, right, Yes, there's no way around it. So
have you overrated? They're idiots everywhere?
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
I am I'm gonna have my kind of preview. Bruce
Feldmantill stop by as well. Big Ten Media Days this week,
SEC Media Days the week before College football is going
to be two conferences now dominating the twelve spots. Don't
be surprised if eight of the twelve spots go to
Big Ten or SEC teams. In fact, I think it's
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possible the SEC could get almost half of the spots.
They won't because the way it works out, you gotta
have some somebody from the Big twelve and somebody from
the ACC and then either a well, I'll save it
for the top of the hour. But the most controversial
spot is not going to be the number one spot.
It's going to be the number twelve spot, which is
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eventually going to bounce out a really good two loss team.
And I'll give you the two teams in college football
that have a chance to get knocked out of a
playoff before the season starts, and it's not because they're
not top twelve teams in college football. Our buddy Matt
Mosley has been covering the Cowboys for a long time.
He's got the Doomsday podcast. Here we go, it is
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Cowboys camp. Very quickly upon it. You know, I made
the argument earlier with McCarthy. He's had three different quarterbacks,
the old feisty Farv, the young aloof prickly Aaron Rodgers,
and the highly coachable but limited athletic lead Dak Prescott.
He's won division titles, a Super Bowl. And if you
don't have Brady and Mahomes, your playoff record for parcels
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John Harbaugh, Mike tomlin Ton, Sean Payton is about five
hundred and that's what his playoff record is. I made
the argument Matt that because he's coached the Packers and
the Cowboys, his situational miscues are blown entirely out of proportion,
and that he's a good NFL coach, He's a Tomlin,
he's a Pete Carroll. But those guys didn't coach the
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Cowboys or the Packers. Is that a fair support of
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
It's somewhat fair.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
I don't I don't like those I don't think he's
anything like those two you mentioned. I think by the
force of personality, they bring a different edge and he
simply does not have that edge. And Jerry's put him
in a tough spot here going to the final year
of his contract. And Jerry, by the way, loves this
more than any owner in football, this thought of putting
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somebody and making them sing for their supper. So I
assure you the one person that is comfortable in this
is Jerry.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Mike is not. I mean Mike Sherdy yesterday, He's not.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
He said this is you know, this presents a challenge
to he and his coaching staff, and Jerry really does
not care. Mike is one of the best regular season
coaches really the Catholics have had in a long time.
It's twelve wins every season, but last year, the Green
Bay thing, that's all it's on everybody's mind, and that's
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that's a really hard thing to change.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
So I like where you're going. But the two names you.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
Mentioned, uh, from a leadership and from how he carries himself,
far far different than those two because he does not
have that kind of force of personality.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Doomsday Podcast our buddy Matt Moseley, four minutes left. I
want to get these two questions in number one. Ceede
Lamb's a holdout. Listen, they need ceedee Lamb. They are
not deep up. They're very dak reliant. Is he going
to get a deal here before he enters camp?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
No, before he enters the season, Like it'll be like
the week. It'll be like Zeke. He'll get it. He'll
get it done. They'll hold out. He's in Houston today
and they'll just wait and it'll be fine. They have
to get it done. They know what the number is.
It's kind of ridiculous. It's even gotten to this point.
Speaker 9 (38:17):
He'll wait, both sides will wait, he'll be comfortable, he'll
get fined a whole bunch, and then he'll Uh, he's
got him over the barrel, just like everybody does with
this organization, like who doesn't have Jerry over the barrel
right now? So he'll he'll wait and uh, it'll be fine,
and they'll they'll play it down and go, hey, we've
been working out together.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We'll be fine.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
And about a week, five six days before we'll all, oh,
my gosh, this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Is he really gonna miss a game? And he won't.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
He'll come in because what are they They're gonna fold,
they have no recourse or do you go to the
Brandon coach Jalen tober To mean, like what do you
what are you gonna do with your offense? Yeah, you
don't have a running back. You don't have any running backs.
So no, it won't happen.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It won't happen that quickly. And I don't think he'll
get any time in training camp.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The NFC was wide open as Aaron left the NFC,
Russell Wilson left the NFC. Couple of teams missed on
quarterback draft picks. It is not wide open anymore. Philadelphia's
got Saquon green Bay no longer in a rebuild either.
Are the Rams Detroit San Francisco really really good? And
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I think if Washington and Chicago hit on their quarterbacks.
Watch out, give me in a minute. Realistic expectations. You've
always been authentic and honest about Dallas. What are realistic
expectations in a much better NFC this year?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Well, I think I think it's a ten win team.
I think nine or ten win wins is realistic. They
have not gotten better on defense. They do have a
new defensive coordinator. I like Mike Zimmer. I like the
attitude he brings of no Mike Forever. So I think
in some ways that could be helpful. A new voice
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for Micah. And it's not like I mean, he wasn't
doing great with the last boys, but it'll be interesting
to see because he's way more old school and I
don't know how Micah is going to respond to that.
But I think realistically, the best you can hope for
is ten or eleven. If I was gonna if I
were gonna bet and we said the over under it
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was like nine and a half, I think I would
lean to the under right now, and maybe we'll see something.
Maybe getting Digs back, you know, maybe that'll be helpful,
but I'm not I'm not feeling that optimistic. But when
I get out there and that gorgeous weather around Oxnard
in Ventura, and I get out around with you and
your staff, I really probably could have a more positive outlook.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
California's weather does that to people. Matt Mosley, Cowboy Insider
Doomsday Podcast, one of our faves. Good seeing you, buddy,
right to see you. Yeah, he feels exactly.
Speaker 9 (41:02):
Like I do.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I think they're in that nine to ten win space
and they are a ankle sprain to see the lamb
from being a bb gun. Offensively, that is arguably the
worst running back room in the league. No depth at
tight end. You can tell from the draft. They're trying
to rebuild depth on the offensive line. It's going to
be very, very Dak reliant. The Lions are good, but
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they're not Goff reliant. The Packers are good. They got
talent everywhere. I don't feel like they're Jordan Love reliant.
They got playmakers everywhere. They upgraded it running back. I
don't even think the Bears are Caleb reliant. They brought
in receivers and tight end. Dallas is Dak reliant, and
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they have not been good when they are previously. All Right,
Bruce Feldman around the corner, I'll lay out the twelve
things teams I think make the college football Playoff. We
know who's going to be good. We know who the
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go. It is a Thursday lie in
Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be, however
you may be listening for watch. Thanks for making us
part of your day. First of all, really good pig
ten football stuff. Ohio State oreon Michigan Penn State, A
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honest Lincoln Riley talk, very polarizing. I'll give you my
prediction in one hour from now of the twelve team playoff.
I think it's pretty easy in college football to figure
out many of the teams that'll be there. And we'll
kind of give you a breakdown of the playoff. J
(01:13):
Mac I was thinking about this. When you have a
great job in any industry, you can make a small
mistake and it becomes, you know, a fire. If you
have a mediocre or an irrelevant job, you can make
a huge mistake and nobody cares. You know, Aaron Boone
for the Yankees, we pick him apart for a seventh
inning decision. Nobody breaks down or discusses the Tampa Bay
(01:37):
Rays egregiously bad base running air in the ninth inning, Right,
And so I want to start the show with that,
is that the NFL is the biggest sport in America
and it's not really close. We watch it, we gamble
on it, we talk about it, shows like this obsess
(01:58):
over it. And the two biggest brands in the NFL
to me are the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers.
I'm sorry, but the Pittsburgh Steelers were in the seventies,
but their standard now is Hey, we brag about never
being under five hundred. I don't think you can deny
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the Cowboys win a lot and the Packers win every year, right,
That's just what they do. And they have controversial quarterbacks.
They have massive brands. We would never talk about Green Bay,
Wisconsin if not for the Packers massive, massive brand. Same
with the Cowboys. And there's one guy that's coached both,
(02:41):
Mike McCarthy. And if you make little mistakes with a
big brand Cowboys, Packers they get blown out, so whenever,
and we don't like to blame the quarterbacks for losses.
We blame Sean McDermott, John Harbaugh, We blame Andy Reid
in Philadelphia. Never Donovan McNabb. We tend to blame the coaches,
(03:05):
not the quarterback. We wear the quarterbacks jerseys. We have
him on our fantasy team, so he's good to us.
We bet on our quarterback, not on our coach necessarily.
So I was thinking about Mike McCarthy of the Cowboys.
Is he the best coach in the NFL that is
considered a mediocre to a bad coach, And so think
about this. In Green Bay, he had an eight year stretch,
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won a Super Bowl, five division titles seven of eight years.
This is when the NFC was better than the AFC
seven of eight years, double digit wins in Dallas four seasons,
twelve wins three straight years. He's had a top five
scoring offense ten times with multiple quarterbacks, the number one
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offense in the NFL four times, one of them with Dak.
He's never had the mahomes with Josh Allen A Lamar,
one of them with Dak Dak Prescott number one offense
in the league, and he's succeeded at a high level
with three different quarterbacks. Old feisty ad Libber Gunslinger, hard
to coach, Brett Farv prickly young aloof at times arrogant,
(04:11):
Aaron Rodgers, who wants to do things his own way,
and the highly coachable but kind of limited Dak Prescott. Hell,
he went like four and one with Cooper Rush. Three
different quarterbacks, three different personalities. He's won with all of them. Well,
colony has never won the Big Game. No, No, he
won the Big Game. He Actually, the only time Aaron
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Rodgers has ever won the Big Game in his career
was was with Mike McCarthy. He's won the Big Game. Well,
he just doesn't win enough playoff games. Eleven that's as
many as Bill Parcell's. Well, I mean he did five
hundred playoff coach. Oh, that's interesting. If you don't have
Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. That's what all the great
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coaches playoff records are. Mike McCarthy's eleven and eleven, John
Harbaugh twelve and ten, Mike Holmgren Great coach thirteen eleven,
Sean Payton nine to eight, winning his coach ever Don
Shulo with Dan Marino nineteen seventeen, Pete Carroll five hundred,
Ditka five hundred, Tony Dungee, Mike Tomlin under five hundred.
(05:18):
If you don't have Brady or Mahomes, that is what
your playoff record looks like if you're a great coach.
So McCarthy inherited the old Brett Farv, who, as you know,
was already talking retirement. McCarthy went thirteen and three with him.
He was feisty, he didn't want to make any changes.
He was stubborn and gifted, and McCarthy had a great
(05:43):
year with him. And then there's Aaron who can be
aloof and arrogant and prickly and difficult his best years
and a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Dak. We don't
consider Dak great. That's interesting. He's actually with very few
weapons now that he's paid, had a number one offense
(06:04):
in the league. So it's just as interesting we're gonna
blame McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And not Dak.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The knock, even the knock on Mike McCarthy, even the
criticism of him, he's in an elite class. The biggest
knock on him is I don't like him. Late game situations.
Do you realize that was the only real criticism of
the best coach in football, Andy Reid his entire time
(06:34):
in Philadelphia. He's in a very unique elite class. But
he's never had Brady and he's never had Mahomes. And
when that's the case, Aaron and Farv aren't as good
as those guys. I'd argue, the more you inspect it,
it's not necessarily close. So just get ready, he'll be
(06:57):
on the hot seat. And we're not gonna blame Dak
because Dak's going to have a new contract. It's going
to be almost sixty million a year. You're trapped with Dak,
and it's much easier for fans to blame a coach
who you can fire than a quarterback you're stuck with.
But I would argue Mike McCarthy is the best coach
in the league that's considered a mediocre to bad coach.
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I consider him a B plus coach. I consider Mike
Tomlin a B plus coach. I think if you inspect
Pete Carroll, he's a B plus coach. Those are good
grades mostly what I got in college in high school.
So Jim Harbaugh the Chargers of open camp and Jim
Harbaugh is a complete breath of fresh air. So the
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Chargers before Harball never really paid their coach big boy money.
But the Chargers didn't just need a coach. If I
told you, and I didn't give you the team, but
I said, in the last twenty five years, there's been
this one NFL franchise. They're almost oh is really good
at quarterback, I mean really good. Yeah, They've had a
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lot of Hall of famers, Like some guys they don't
even draft them and they find them Antonio Gates. They've
had the best running back in the league at any
one time, a top five to seven quarterback at any
one time, the best receiving group at any one time,
the best linebacker at any one time, a Bosa off
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the edge. But this team, I mean they blow leads
like nobody's business. Nobody loses more games they should win
than this team. That team would be the Chargers. They've
had the same owner and the Spanhos family. Complain all
you'll want, but pretty solid ownership. Stay out of the limelight.
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I mean it's not like Dan Snyder, the Bidwells, I
mean the Marras now are getting cross to New York.
It's the Chargers. The Chargers didn't need a coach, they
needed this coach. And Jim was at the podium yesterday.
Just the way it feels, I mean, feels like New
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Year's Day. You know, it feels like being born. Heels
like coming out of the womb. You know, it's like
you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe, and
now you're out, you're born. Lights are on the you know,
it's bright, get chaos. People look people looking at you,
people people talking at you, and uh, just feels good to.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Have it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And here's my prediction on what it'll look like. Just
like Michigan Year one, Harball arrives at Michigan almost no
NFL players, and he wins ten games, massively overachieves rising expectations.
And a couple of years later he actually pulls back
(09:56):
and only wins eight games. And there's a divide in
the room. Is he too intense for college football? Taking
recruiting trips to Rome, staying at a kid's house. He
will divide people. So the Chargers he will overachieve this year.
Don't be shocked if they win eleven games, maybe twelve.
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Raiders are two wins. Broncos could be two wins. Chargers
always seem to split, don't they? Or play the Chiefs well,
they'll win eleven or twelve games. He'll be intense and
he'll buy year two and three. If he doesn't have
a super Bowl, he'll divide people. But what he will
create is exactly what This franchise, more than any in
the league needs. Toughness, grit, accountability, a plan. They had
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talent forever, Dan Fouts, Winslow, John Jefferson, West Chandler, Philip Rivers,
Keenan Allen, Antonio Gates. This team's had talent forever, but toughness, grit, accountability, vision,
Marty Schottenheimer a few years, that's it. So to me,
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the right coach at the right time, they will massively
overachieve in year one. But because they're in a division
and a conference with Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen
and C. J. Stroud and Joe Burrow, they may not
win a Super Bowl. And by year two and three,
I don't know, you know, he should have stayed at Michigan.
He may be too intense for the new NFL players
(11:32):
have more power now all of it will be just
like at Michigan, absolute nonsense, and I can't wait for
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
J Mack.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think you and I both believe if you look
at their schedule, they did get a a little favor
from the NFL early in the schedule. Raiders, Panthers early
buy going into a Denver game, Arizona Saints as a
lot of w's here early. I think the league, and
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we know the NFL, has done this with their schedule.
I think the league wants to see Jim harbassucceed and
succeed quickly, and I think he will.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It'd be nice to have them in the playoffs. We're
doing for Herdline tomorrow. AFC playoff Seeds and Chargers.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I don't know what to do with them. Are they
a playoff team or not? Because there's a I mean, well, listen,
the Browns are going to be very good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The history of Harball with the Niners, with Michigan year one,
he exceeds expectations and so this team has some really
good players. They're good at offensive tackle. They upgraded it
running back actually when they if you look at Eckler
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leaving what they brought in. So they're good at edge rusher,
two edge rushers, two good tackles, excellent quarterback, solid at
tight end, pretty good in the secondary. Linebackers that move.
Our question is do they have the weapons? But remember
it's San Francisco. With the Niners, it was Crabtree. We
didn't love his perimeter weapons. We love the Niners, we
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didn't love that part. At Michigan they won a natty
Colin Wilson won elite receiver hardball. With this Chargers team,
it looks a little like the Niners and a little
like Michigan, which is not an elite team necessarily on
the perimeter, but tackles in defense, special teams, game planning, toughness. Immediately,
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it's a whole different look, vibe and field.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Hardball's worth at least or upgrade over Stalley at least a.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Win and a half Monthent Oh god, oh that might
be low. I don't know. Oh. I think you're going
from not to pick on anybody, the worst staff in
the league top to bottom, to a top five staff.
I don't think it's worth what was CJ. Stroudworth of
the Texans seven wins. I don't buy that a coach
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is worth a win or two I think Harbaugh's worth
five wins. He's not replacing a really solid coach, Mike Zimmer.
He's replacing a coach that spent most of their money
on defense and was the worst third down, fourth down
situational defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Late game execution of the play calls, it just was
all a disaster for Staley.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't think this is a have said this for years.
The NFL considers a quarterback like worth four and a
half points if you're great, maybe six and a half. Now,
Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers in their prime are worth
eleven and a half points. They don't play, They score
eleven less. A really good football coach isn't worth a touchdown.
You don't think Harbaugh's from the bottom to the near
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top of the league. You don't think he's worth four
to six wins? I do? I mean, do you remember
how bad the Sparrows family does not want to fire
you during a season? They went interim a lot of
the older owners, and they qualify as that they don't
want to do the interim. The interim is very dangerous
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because if you put an interim guy in and he wins,
which interim coaches often do because the inject energy. You're
stuck hiring the interim. Antonio Pearson with the Raiders, you're
stuck hiring him because the locker room falls in love
with him. So interim. Most of the smart older owners
that have been around the block, they don't want to
fire in season because if you give an interim. So
that's how bad Staley was for a franchise that doesn't
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get a lot of media attention. The Spanos family felt
so much heat they had to fire Staley in the season.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, it's like the team quit on it. Remember that
Raiders game. I just had to look it up. Sixty
three to twenty one.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
They lost. Remember that was like a third name was
a defensive coach. I mean it was like they quit.
You could tell. So it's over. We don't want to
play for this guy anymore. That's how bad it was.
I don't think Hardball's worth a win and a half.
I think he's more. Oh, I look at their schedule.
They got an NFL favor. You know they had a
good draft because Harball just came out of college football.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's this new head coach, new oc, new skill position
players everywhere, A lot of newness.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So I remember, newness is great in Houston, when you
go from bad to good. I'm not anti new.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But there were now expectations in Houston last year. Right
It's like, oh, we got a new coach in new
rookie quarterback. We'll say how it goes with hardball. It's
like spotlight on. You know their practices right now? This
week are packed. People are very into this hardball thing.
There is some pressure. There was none in Houston last
year on.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I would say this in Los Angeles, the Dodgers, the Lakers,
the Rams, and USC just in Los Angeles face more
pressure on a weekly basis than the Chargers in Los Angeles.
I mean, Lincoln Riley's getting heat. He took over a
shipwreck one eleven games, year two, they're all over him.
That's pressure. Pressure's not hey, can you just right the ship?
(16:56):
I mean, I think if he wins ten games, he
will be be parades in LA. And I think if
you look at their schedule, twelve is not off the table.
I'm not I'm trying to. I'm not very positive Collin today.
Mike McCarthy, what a guy. And okay, Charger twelve wins.
Just look at the schedule, find me games. I mean,
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they get Baltimore at home. That's their toughest out of
conference game. Baltimore at home. They get multiple teams with
a coach on the hot seat, a rookie coach, a
rookie quarterback. This is as easy as schedule as you
can get in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Okay, So Browns and Bengals are very very tough games.
Raven very tough games.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So that's put it again. But let's once again. Bengals
at home, Raven's at home. No, churches don't have a
home field Evans. No no, no, they do not no no, no,
no no. Their season ticket sales they do. Now, Harboss
sold seven thousand seats. I'll guarantee you sixty five to
thirty five Bengals. Oh, I think that's so. I think
the charge now.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The game Ravens game is gonna be seventy thirty Ravens face.
Come on, and I know whatdd's with season tickets to
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
They laugh about this. I think they're gonna be good.
I do ten wins. I think ten wins would be great.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
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Great Rates, None of the bull. So oh, there's some
video out there of Aaron Rodgers at practice lighting it up,
people getting very excited. We've said two of the three
biggest stories this year are going to be Harbaugh Chargers,
Mike McCarthy on the hot seat, Caleb Williams in Chicago,
and Aaron, who hasn't taken but four or five snaps
(18:44):
here in six hundred days, are close to it. Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets. So he said yesterday he thinks
they're an elite team in a group of teams that
could win it all.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It has to be the goal, I mean beauty is
every single year there's eight to twelve teams, maybe probably less,
but eight to twelve teams that could actually do it.
And we're one of those eight to twelve.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So in my entire life, there's never been twelve teams
that can win the Super Bowl. It's usually about seven
to eight. Here are the last eight teams that have
won a Super Bowl. Now this spans much longer than
eight years, but the last eight teams to win a
Super Bowl are Chiefs, Rams, Bucks, Patriots, Eagles, Broncos, Seahawks, Ravens.
Two things with those groups, you don't have impulsive ownership
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that often feels like the franchise is in chaos. You
do with the Jets. And all those teams had at
least been to a Super Bowl, many had won a
Super Bowl in the previous twenty years. The Jets haven't.
The Jets do have, however, things that super Bowl teams have.
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They have an elite quarterback, and Denver proved even if
your elite quarterback Peyton Manning and Day is way past
his prime, if you have an elite defense the Jets
think they do, and they may, you can win a
Super Bowl. So they got a quarterback they'll past his prime.
And when you have a quarterback in his prime, you
don't need a great defense. If he's passed his prime,
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you do. And the Jets may have had that. Although
the Manning defense had a nickname No Fly Zone, and
was a number one until the defense the Jets last
year were like thirteenth, But in fairness, it's a good defense.
They lost Brice huff If hasan Reddick doesn't sign but
the season, it's not an elite defense yet. Also, generally speaking,
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you have an above average coach. And we don't know
really what Robert sala is right now. We're not sure
he's average. We're not really sure if he's going to
finish the season based on how this thing plays. But
I do believe, and I do this every year. I
have what I call a Super Bowl bubble, and I
(21:03):
think they're seven or eight teams that I have in
the bubble, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo. In the AFC, it's
better than the NFC at the top, but I think
the Rams, Niners, Detroit, Green Bay, and Philly are in it.
In the NFC, I'll give three AFC teams. I'll put
them on the periphery of it, Bengals, Texans, Jets for
(21:28):
the Jets, which Aaron Rodgers do I get? I will
say it again. His last year in Green Bay, with
Matt Lafleur and an excellent top three offensive line, he
had a lower passer rating that year than Daniel Jones Cincinnati.
Which Burrow do I get? The great healthy one or
the one watching from the sidelines. And Houston's still really young.
(21:53):
But man, those last two years of acquisitions. In drafting CJ. Stroud,
does he have a soft more pullback. I didn't include Dallas.
I've told you I think this is the beginning of
their decline. But I do think there's an argument they've
got an elite quarterback, albeit past his prime. They've got
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a potentially good defense if they sign Hassan Reddick. What
I think historically gets in the way of teams like
the Jets is they don't have any momentum. So the
minute they go on a two game losing streak, here
come the knives and the backstabbing. And I don't trust
their ownership, but but I do think they're close. If
(22:39):
the offensive line stays healthy, if Aaron is upright, I
think they're battling for a postseason. In Week sixteen seventeen,
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
News no, no, no, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Nice to see the green and white there in your
Super Bowl bubble.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Just outside the Super Bowl bubble. I mean, the odds
are with you. Jets have good odds in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
if I think they really are potentially the Denver Bronco
team that won it was Gary Kubiak, a great coach
Peyton Manning was past his prime. They were overwhelmingly carried
by a great defense. If Hassan Reddick signs and Sola
(23:21):
gets some early wins, which the schedule dictates he could,
then you create momentum. What Denver didn't have. What Denver
did have the Jets hadn't is when Peyton Manning first
got to Denver, they won a bunch of games, and
so they had momentum. They were winning games. So the
(23:41):
Jets have to create momentum. Almost none of the eight
teams that have won a Super Bowl the last twenty
some years didn't start from zero. They were good the
year before. They've been to a super Bowl seven years ago.
They had cultural momentum. The Jets have none. So it's impairible.
And when you don't have momentum, you go to a
(24:02):
losing network or a losing law. Of if it's a
losing team, the minute you stumble, everybody has self doubt.
So Baltimore never does, the Rams don't, the Niners don't,
New England, Kansas City. So the one thing nobody discusses this,
to win a Super Bowl, it's a long road and
you're gonna have losing streaks. Kansas City eleven through Week
(24:23):
fourteen was bad, but there was never a loss of
self doubt or finger pointing the Jets because they're a
losing culture for the last decade plus. You go in
a two, three game losing streak. Aaron, by the way,
doesn't do you any favors. He tends to be passive, aggressive,
and a finger pointer. It's not gonna be that they
lack the reservoir of talent. What happens when they go
(24:45):
through the undoubtable struggle in this season? They will It's
the AFC three four. The wheels will be falling off
the sky. I say undoubtable, that's not a word. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
All right, Let's go from the Jets who haven't won,
Jack Squatt to the Niners, who are perpetually right there
on the cusp of the Super Bowl. But now Colin,
they start trading camp without two of their top players.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It was expected that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Brandon Ayuk would not be practicing because he's demanded of trade.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
However, he did.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Report on time and is holding in which is a
new thing. However, the other missing piece is Trent Williams,
the hulking left tackle who Shanahan says is holding out
for contract related issues issues.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
This is what happens to old expensive teams. Guys don't
want to get they're not old. They want to kidle.
Trentim Williams is aging. All the rest of their core
players are still in their prime. Anyways, Is this a
nothing burger? What do we got?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Is this all?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think this is what happens to highly talented teams.
Guys take a beating for years. They can see the end.
Trent McCaffrey, they can see the end. They don't have
the trophy yet. They want to make sure they're taken
care of. They've won a lot of games that it's
not necessarily They have a very good culture. But you
(26:09):
don't get this with the Green Bay Packers of the Lions.
They're very young ascending teams. This is not a young
ascending team. It is a team like a Philadelphia that's
been successful for a lot of years and they want
to grab that trophy again. And I think this is
the natural preseason pattern of teams like this. A lot
(26:31):
of contract talk, a lot of I gotta get my
it's my last big deal. I want to get that
extra year of guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
How about some extra days off for like a thirty
six or eight. Can I extend my summer over?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They don't win. For the record, they don't win. When
Trent Williams doesn't play right, we know he so keep
him healthy. Who cares if he misses a week at training.
It's Trent Williams. He knows what he's doing over there
are left tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I do wonder if some of this, just a small amount,
is related to Brock Purdy maybe paid next year and
I yuk and Williams saying, yo, I better get paid
before because we're gonna have to lose some.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Guys if they pay party now. I mean, you just
there's three or four guys they can't lose Trent, McCaffrey
and Bosa. You can't lose those guys. Everybody else is negotiable,
even the good guys Hafunga, Fred Warner, who I love,
but he's a linebacker. Move off linebackers. Yeah, I mean
it's there's three guys you can't screw with. Shannan keeps
(27:25):
his job, Christian, Trent and Bosa. Those are the non starters.
I'm not picking up the phone, not taking a phone call.
Everybody else you're gonna have to make tough decisions tight ends, linebackers, safeties,
age very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
All right, we got some breaking news here in story
number two is Pittsburgh where Russell Wilson today woke up
with a bit of a CAF issue.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh and is sitting out now.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Listen, we don't know how bad it is, but only
calf I know right now is Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's missed a ton of time on the basketball court.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Mike Tomlin announced this offseason Russ was in position to
get the starting job, but now the campus.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Started, Tomlin isn't giving out any more details. Here we go, Okay,
rust up altation, nothing has changed. How do you plan
on working those rafts with ending job?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Very carefully?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
He guys think I'm actually back myself into a corner.
So you guys are gonna ask me daily about the
rep allocations.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In no way.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I've been on the job too long for that. You
want to understand why he isn't just saying Russ is
the starter, Well, I think he likes to encourage competition.
Here's the thing. Russ should be the starter, but I'm
kind of rooting for Justin Fields to get looks because
I really probably doesn't go there if he doesn't get
(28:46):
the hang. You know, I absolutely believe he has been
told he's quarterback one, but he likes just playing games.
But they don't want to end the competition. And I
also don't think it's good for the locker room because
I think the young guys are gonna like Justin Fields.
You're gonna watch Justin Field to practice do stuff Russ can't.
He's bigger, he stronger, he moves better. So I think
Justin Fields is gonna buy a lot of credibility in
(29:07):
that locker room. That's what he did in Chicago. People
were like, it's amazing. His question is game time, red
light comes on? Could you make the play? But I
don't think you want to end this comp First of all,
Russell can be a bit cringy and not always loved
in the locker room. Justin Fields to the very end
in Chicago, everybody loved him in the locker room. So
what you're gonna have is a guy starting that's less
(29:28):
popular than the backup. And the backup not a recipe
for some, No, no, no it's not. But it's just
I'm not banging on Russ. But Russ has very few
close NFL teammates. He can just change and become very likable.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I don't know who's seattle Man.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It's just for years like it's not likability, it's authenticity,
and people question that. But Fields remember this to the
very end, usually a losing quarterback. As Zach Wilson hit
the road, pal Field's teammates, his best teammates, Jalen Johnson,
DJ Moore, DJ Moose say we need to keep by
(30:07):
love Justin. So Justin's likable, he's talented, he'll shine in practice.
He's younger, he's cooler, he's authentic. Those players are gonna
like him. But Russell at this point is the better quarterback.
So I think Mike Tomlin understands that I can't be
all all camp Russ. We gotta let this thing play out.
(30:28):
And I think it's the smart tack by Tomlin.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I mean, either way, they're not going to the playoffs
with dependent regardless of who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right, I think it's probably last place in the division.
If that's last place, that is the best last place
roster in the history of the National Football League. That
roster is good. Oh. I love it's right because they
got all this spend their money on details. Well, by
the way, two backs, I like a star receiver, an
excellent tight end. Running backs, but they're good. Who's got
(30:57):
a better combination than Najia Harrison Warren? Those guys are great,
very good backs. That the better roster Cleveland Browns or
Pittsburgh Steelers Steelers, No way, not even close.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Steel The Browns are a playoff team last year with
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Coming off the sofa and leading him to the playoffs.
I mean you can argue the playoff spot with Kenny Pickett. Uh, yeah,
that's true. Yeah that happened. Who's the third on somebody's
depth chart right now, Mike Tomlin or Stefanski? I know
Tomlin historically has been better. I think is, in my opinion,
(31:36):
the best coach nobody puts in that class.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Okay, and now how about this one, Deshaun Watson or
Russell Wilson DeShawn Okay, So the Browns are better than
the Steelers at quarterback and coach and which you love.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And you've got the Steelers ahead of them in the
vision because only one of those is massively dysfunctional. I
think you need to revisit the Browns final story.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
In a recent survey about survey about the best NFL quarterbacks,
one executive said Josh Allen was one of the more
overrated players in the league. Bill GM Brandon Bean has
an issue with that comment, and here's what he said yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
There's idiots everywhere. I don't know where to start. It's
frustrating you try to ignore this stuff like that. Josh
is going into year seven and there's still the naysayers.
I don't get it. I know people love the rankings
of whoever, But when you don't put your name to it,
or and you make comments like that, like who is
(32:33):
this executive? If you're not going to put your name
on it, we really shouldn't validate it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I don't think anybody really believes he's overrated. Well somebody,
but you're just I think you're just saying that to
take shots of people like nobody thinks he's that he's
not a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He has to be on any list top three in
the league, right, Yes, there's no way around it. So
have you overrated? They're idiots everywhere?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Zach Partzer, Jim McK the news, Well that's the news,
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
I am I'm gonna have my kind of preview. Bruce
Feldmantill stop by as well. Big Ten Media Days this week,
SEC Media Days the week before College football is going
to be two conferences now dominating the twelve spots. Don't
be surprised if eight of the twelve spots go to
Big Ten or SEC teams. In fact, I think it's
(34:52):
possible the SEC could get almost half of the spots.
They won't because the way it works out, you gotta
have some somebody from the Big twelve and somebody from
the ACC and then either a well, I'll save it
for the top of the hour. But the most controversial
spot is not going to be the number one spot.
It's going to be the number twelve spot, which is
(35:13):
eventually going to bounce out a really good two loss team.
And I'll give you the two teams in college football
that have a chance to get knocked out of a
playoff before the season starts, and it's not because they're
not top twelve teams in college football. Our buddy Matt
Mosley has been covering the Cowboys for a long time.
He's got the Doomsday podcast. Here we go, it is
(35:34):
Cowboys camp. Very quickly upon it. You know, I made
the argument earlier with McCarthy. He's had three different quarterbacks,
the old feisty Farv, the young aloof prickly Aaron Rodgers,
and the highly coachable but limited athletic lead Dak Prescott.
He's won division titles, a Super Bowl. And if you
don't have Brady and Mahomes, your playoff record for parcels
(35:58):
John Harbaugh, Mike tomlin Ton, Sean Payton is about five
hundred and that's what his playoff record is. I made
the argument Matt that because he's coached the Packers and
the Cowboys, his situational miscues are blown entirely out of proportion,
and that he's a good NFL coach, He's a Tomlin,
he's a Pete Carroll. But those guys didn't coach the
(36:20):
Cowboys or the Packers. Is that a fair support of
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
It's somewhat fair.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
I don't I don't like those I don't think he's
anything like those two you mentioned. I think by the
force of personality, they bring a different edge and he
simply does not have that edge. And Jerry's put him
in a tough spot here going to the final year
of his contract. And Jerry, by the way, loves this
more than any owner in football, this thought of putting
(36:51):
somebody and making them sing for their supper. So I
assure you the one person that is comfortable in this
is Jerry.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Mike is not. I mean Mike Sherdy yesterday, He's not.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
He said this is you know, this presents a challenge
to he and his coaching staff, and Jerry really does
not care. Mike is one of the best regular season
coaches really the Catholics have had in a long time.
It's twelve wins every season, but last year, the Green
Bay thing, that's all it's on everybody's mind, and that's
(37:25):
that's a really hard thing to change.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
So I like where you're going. But the two names you.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
Mentioned, uh, from a leadership and from how he carries himself,
far far different than those two because he does not
have that kind of force of personality.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Doomsday Podcast our buddy Matt Moseley, four minutes left. I
want to get these two questions in number one. Ceede
Lamb's a holdout. Listen, they need ceedee Lamb. They are
not deep up. They're very dak reliant. Is he going
to get a deal here before he enters camp?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
No, before he enters the season, Like it'll be like
the week. It'll be like Zeke. He'll get it. He'll
get it done. They'll hold out. He's in Houston today
and they'll just wait and it'll be fine. They have
to get it done. They know what the number is.
It's kind of ridiculous. It's even gotten to this point.
Speaker 9 (38:17):
He'll wait, both sides will wait, he'll be comfortable, he'll
get fined a whole bunch, and then he'll Uh, he's
got him over the barrel, just like everybody does with
this organization, like who doesn't have Jerry over the barrel
right now? So he'll he'll wait and uh, it'll be fine,
and they'll they'll play it down and go, hey, we've
been working out together.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We'll be fine.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
And about a week, five six days before we'll all, oh,
my gosh, this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Is he really gonna miss a game? And he won't.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
He'll come in because what are they They're gonna fold,
they have no recourse or do you go to the
Brandon coach Jalen tober To mean, like what do you
what are you gonna do with your offense? Yeah, you
don't have a running back. You don't have any running backs.
So no, it won't happen.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It won't happen that quickly. And I don't think he'll
get any time in training camp.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The NFC was wide open as Aaron left the NFC,
Russell Wilson left the NFC. Couple of teams missed on
quarterback draft picks. It is not wide open anymore. Philadelphia's
got Saquon green Bay no longer in a rebuild either.
Are the Rams Detroit San Francisco really really good? And
(39:27):
I think if Washington and Chicago hit on their quarterbacks.
Watch out, give me in a minute. Realistic expectations. You've
always been authentic and honest about Dallas. What are realistic
expectations in a much better NFC this year?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Well, I think I think it's a ten win team.
I think nine or ten win wins is realistic. They
have not gotten better on defense. They do have a
new defensive coordinator. I like Mike Zimmer. I like the
attitude he brings of no Mike Forever. So I think
in some ways that could be helpful. A new voice
(40:05):
for Micah. And it's not like I mean, he wasn't
doing great with the last boys, but it'll be interesting
to see because he's way more old school and I
don't know how Micah is going to respond to that.
But I think realistically, the best you can hope for
is ten or eleven. If I was gonna if I
were gonna bet and we said the over under it
(40:27):
was like nine and a half, I think I would
lean to the under right now, and maybe we'll see something.
Maybe getting Digs back, you know, maybe that'll be helpful,
but I'm not I'm not feeling that optimistic. But when
I get out there and that gorgeous weather around Oxnard
in Ventura, and I get out around with you and
your staff, I really probably could have a more positive outlook.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
California's weather does that to people. Matt Mosley, Cowboy Insider
Doomsday Podcast, one of our faves. Good seeing you, buddy,
right to see you. Yeah, he feels exactly.
Speaker 9 (41:02):
Like I do.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I think they're in that nine to ten win space
and they are a ankle sprain to see the lamb
from being a bb gun. Offensively, that is arguably the
worst running back room in the league. No depth at
tight end. You can tell from the draft. They're trying
to rebuild depth on the offensive line. It's going to
be very, very Dak reliant. The Lions are good, but
(41:26):
they're not Goff reliant. The Packers are good. They got
talent everywhere. I don't feel like they're Jordan Love reliant.
They got playmakers everywhere. They upgraded it running back. I
don't even think the Bears are Caleb reliant. They brought
in receivers and tight end. Dallas is Dak reliant, and
(41:46):
they have not been good when they are previously. All Right,
Bruce Feldman around the corner, I'll lay out the twelve
things teams I think make the college football Playoff. We
know who's going to be good. We know who the
star coaches and quarterbacks are next
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