August 2, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin calms NFL fans down by saying the new kickoff rule during the Hall of Fame game may seem weird but will become normal over the season
Bears QB Caleb Williams should have gotten a few reps last night
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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So I watched with anticipation for the new kickoff rule.
I was hoping for Caleb Williams. Still don't know why
it isn't play. You get into that later, But I
got a few thoughts on the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It was jarring, for sure, jarring.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, little video game looking it looks a little odd,
but and I think about this a lot in my life.
What was the intent. The intent is we're trying to
reduce the number of concussions for these amazing athletes who
put their body in harm's way. Generally, in my life,
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if your intent is good, I'm good. I don't have
to agree. I don't have to agree with every single
position or policy of my favorite political candidate to vote
for them. I don't have to agree with my wife
on every debate we have the lover. I've worked at
companies that make decisions I don't agree with. I can
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still like a company. People in life are too rigid.
Americans complain too much. Football is amazing. Stop seeking perfection.
You want perfection, look in the mirror. Do you live
up to that standard. Football's not perfect, but it's great.
There's a lot of rules in football I don't like.
I think it's way too punitive that you fumble out
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of the end zone and in football you lose possession.
I think that's ridiculous. I think college football has pass
interference right where it's a fifteen yard penalty, not fifty
eight yards because your legs get tangled up. The NFL's
not perfect, but they're always willing, unlike baseball, to change things.
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The catch rule was screwy for several years and they
changed it. In basketball, the Olympics have the FEEBA rules,
the NBA has their rules. I actually prefer some of
the FEBA rules. If your intent is in the right
place to protect these amazing athletes who are putting their
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body in treacherous positions in a sport with semi regulated
levels of violence, then I'm okay with it. I remember
when UFC started and Dana White and the Fritidas came
out and they took out some of the more ugly
eye gouging, and all the UFC fans can play, oh well,
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you put a skirt on. The sport has done nothing
but explode and grow. Yes, I know there's the guys
out there. Why don't you just play flag football? Oh yeah,
because nobody would watch it. I love soft. Pudgy guy
on the couch suddenly telling me the league went soft.
This league is for men, big strong men colliding into
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each other. Let's create rules that at least protect them.
And by the way, I watched the kickoffs last night,
seven of eight were return seven of more football, just
like when they changed the pat rule, more real football,
less going to the fridge for another beer. Last year,
seventy three percent of kickoffs were touchbacks. Less football. Trust
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the NFL. They know what they're doing. They're not perfect,
but their rules committee makes changes almost ohways for the
right reasons. It's better for the fans, or in this instance,
it's healthier for the players. Listen, it looks a little odd.
It'll take them getting used to. So did the three
point line the first year it came out, and then
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I got used to it. Here's the Bears coach Matt
Eberflus on the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You have to figure it out, like, hey, what is
it going to look like?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So certainly we've tried different things on the return team
and different way to attack on the cover team and
putting different bodies in different spots.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So we're really just trying to figure it out. And
I think that's where all coaches are. We're just trying
to figure it out and do the best thing we can,
and that's going to be on going through the whole season,
and then you'll have to adjust.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
That's the way the NFL is.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Many of you romanticize about the dream team, this Olympic
basketball team, deeper, more talented, more skilled, more positionless, and
many of you. When the NFL brought out rules to
protect the quarterback, I was at another company. This will
ruin the game, and the ratings and the revenue have
gone up, up, up, up up. I don't watch football
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for players getting hurt in violence. I watch it for efficiency,
great offense, amazing quarterback play. And yet last year, with
all the protective measures with quarterbacks, over sixty took a snap.
You don't watch football for the kickoffs. Stop it. Three
out of four go into the end zone. How many
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kickoff returns for touchdowns were there in the NFL last year,
less than a half dozen. I bet you we have
more this year. But I also know for a fact
you'll have more kicks returned. And let's circle back to
the very beginning. If the intent in life is good,
I'm not seeking perfe They're doing it for the right reasons.
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Take a deep breath. Change is hard for a lot
of people. You're still going to watch the games. So
I saw this the NFL. Interesting story. It feels small,
but is it. The NFL had to shut down a
rule book loophole that was being exploited last year by
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three teams. The three teams were the Miami Dolphins, the
San Francisco forty nine Ers, and the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
In Week one, the Dolphins used a certain motion that
it looked like players often got a running start. So
what of those three teams have in common? All three
have really smart, young offensive coaches. By the way, the
three teams that led the NFL in motion last year
in deception the same three teams. For the record, I
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want my accountant and my coaches pushing the envelope using
anything they can that is legal and it was now.
The league can step in just like the IRS can
and close a loophole, but I want my coaches pushing
to the edge. If you go to the last like
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twelve coaches that have got to Super Bowls or the
AFC NFC Championship, I think it's like eleven of twelve.
John Harbaugh is the only exception, but he knows offense.
Eleven of twelve have been offensive coaches. Push, push, push,
apologize later create progressive smart, looking for loopholes and edges.
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Bill Belichick was a great coach. Brady retired he fell
off a cliff. Look around at the teams that run
less motion, struggle to rebuild. Offensive lines aren't very creative.
It's overwhelmingly defensive staffs, defensive leaning cultures. That doesn't mean
Demko Ryans can't win a Super Bowl if he gets
a star quarterback, but if he loses his OC watch out.
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If I'm an owner today, I am looking around thinking,
why did my coaches not use that loophole that won
the Rams and the Dolphins and the Niners games?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Why?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Why is my accountant not doing that? Why is my
owner not doing that? You know what rich guys probably
do when they see somebody gets a loophole shut down
by the I R S, They call their accountant and say,
why weren't you using that? And That's what I'm doing today.
Is a GM or an owner, what Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin,
why weren't you using that Pete Carroll's last year? Why
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weren't you doing that? I want my coaches to push
the envelope. By the way, Philadelphia, the tush push make
the league outlawed. I think it's dangerous to have your
quarterback in a position where play pushing him from behind.
I saw a couple of quarterbacks I think Daniel Jones
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or a Herbert actually got a little dinged up with
the Toush push. But I love the creativity of it.
I love the Eagles creating something that absolutely moved the
chains and without a doubt, won a game or two.
There's no question they extended drives throughout the course of
the last two years with a Toushbush. It may not
work without Jason Kelce and Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni
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may move off it, or the league may end it.
That's up for debate. I think it's an ugly play
that could get guys hurt, but make the league outlawed.
Push to the very edge. All right, Albert Brear is
coming up about an hour from now. J Mack, I'm
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watching this Olympic basketball mostly guys. I would watch more
if Caitlin Clark was playing on the other side. But
it's such mismashes. And Steve Kerr got a little testy yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, he got a little testy with this, and I'm
going to defend us because I think and I love
Steve Kerr. I think he's really smart. He was a
Portland Trailblazer for a brief time when I covered the team,
so one of the smartest guys that's ever been in
this league. Great broadcaster, GM coach, player, But he is
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Speaker 1 (10:55):
So I'm happy in the Hall of Fame game that
back up Brett Rippon slinging it and that's great. But
as I watched the game, my takeaway was, why didn't
Caleb Williams play?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I get veterans not playing, I get banged up offensive
or defensive lineman not playing. I totally get it, but
as a rookie versus vanilla schemes, let's chop it up.
I mean, Caleb Williams hasn't played since like November it's like,
I think it's time to play a little bit. Andrew Luck,
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for the record, played almost the entire first half of
his first preseason game. Tom Brady debuted in this game,
the Hall of Fame game. Patrick Mahomes plays in the preseason.
And I think Caleb's going to be very successful. How successful,
I don't know. It's the Bears, and the Bears have
a history of screwing stuff up with young quarterbacks. They
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either draft the wrong one, or they don't protect him
with offensive line, or they hire the wrong coach or
coordinator for the young quarterback. So let's not treat Caleb
Williams like a star or superstar before. He's actually very good.
And I said yesterday, I do think he's the only
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quarterback in this draft that if the organization can't get
it right, he'll be productive. He'll be like Kyler Murray
is the example I used. He'll get paid, he'll have
good stats, he'll move the chains. But there's a lot
of doubters. I'll tell you this, it's not Andrew Luck.
When Andrew Luck came out, I called every exec and
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scout I knew the year before he came out, and
they were like that's Lway. Stanford, smart, tough arm moves,
that's Lway. Always considered the greatest prospect ever, that's Lway.
Trevor Lawrence had people that pushed back, even though I
loved him. Greg Cosell to this day is like, he's
not as talented Colin as you think. Caleb Williams gets
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pushed back, the fingernagels with vulgarity on them, jumping in
the stands. He could be moody on the sidelines. Sometimes
his accuracy was a little hit and miss. The perpetual
ad libbing out of plays designed by Lincoln Riley that
could be successful. And add to all of that the
Chicago Bears who screwed up all the time on offense.
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So he is not a slam dunk. I think he's
too talented not to be productive. But remember Patrick Mahomes.
SAT has had Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola, Travis Kelcey, a
great GM and great ownership. Do you know the only
MLS team I'm told there's only one or two MLS
teams that are highly profitable. One of them's Dallas FC,
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who's it owned by Clark Hunt, who owns the Chiefs.
Clark Hunt Patrick Mahomes would go into the weeds all
the time, and Andy Reid would pull him back and
get his mechanics on track. Matt Eberflus, that's not his specialty. Again,
you have in Kansas City great ownership, not good front office,
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great coach, great support system. You don't really have that
in Chicago. I think Ryan Poles the GM has been
impressive in the last eighteen months, but you don't have
great ownership. Little old and out of touch. We don't
know about Matt Eberflus. The targets young and old, many
passed their prime outside of Dj Moore, or too young
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to be substantially impactful. So I don't understand. I mean
only one. I start looking at these quarterbacks and you
can't play scared. I mean, only one quarterback in the
league the last two years has played every started every game,
played every snap, right, So it's like you just got
to play guys if they get hurt, and what do
you do? You cross your fingers. So he didn't have
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good offensive lines at USC and he didn't get banged
up very much, So I just I didn't get it.
Andrew Luck first time he could play, played him for
a first half vanilla schemes against third teamers. Get him
some apps, let him chop it up. J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
This is the Herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's a not great news to start the show.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Justin Herbert was diagnosed with plantar fascia in his right foot,
which will put him in a walking boot for the
next two weeks, very painful. Following the walking boot, Herbert
will be on a gradual return to play protocol, but
is expected to be ready for Week one.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
This is not great.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
I know several you know moms and dads who have
plantar fasci itis and.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It is just it's gruel.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
It just doesn't go away. I don't know how NFL
quarterback is going.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
To deal with this. I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I mean, if he's not one hundred percent, you can
just forget the season, right.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The Chargers are not going to contend to compete.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, that for anything I've said. The next month is
the worst month for football. There's no great news for
the next month. There's only bad news there. What's the
best news you could get? Hey, that rookie in the
fourth round looks like he may start. There's no that's
not great news. It's good news. There's incouraging news. So
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this is the only month of the year in football
with the news is all bad. The rest of it's
rumor speculation, which is fun. We dabble in that. That's fun.
You never know. But yeah, this is a bad month.
This has cross your fingers month. Every morning I get up,
I go to the NFL wire. First thing I look
at is is everybody helping?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's clutch. All right.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Next up, let's go to brock party. You were kind
of scoffing at the combined seven interceptions he had in
practice on Monday, Gary, you know, now turnover free.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
On Wednesday, he was lighting it up.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
But I guess Brock Purdy heard your derision and he's
addressed why he's throwing so many picks in the warm
up to the preseason.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Oh, you want to go out, you want to be efficient,
you want to go through reads and obviously protect the
ball and whatnot. But right now is the time for
us to go out. And you know, you always hear
the quarterbacks say experiment, but that's really what it is.
Can I fit it in this window on this hitch?
Can I look off Fred or Flann or Devandre in
a certain way and then make that throwbackside. You got
to try it out. I mean in the game and
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in the season. It comes down to protecting the ball
every snap, every player. So you can't necessarily try those
things out right now. We can, and so my mindset
right now is, you know, protect the ball, but let's
be aggressive. Let's try this out. Let's figure it out.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You know, did you want You see the crowds there
at Niners camp. It's packed.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You see the crowds at Cowboy Camp. Nobody's there.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was thinking about this. So if you live in
the Midwest or the East Coast, you may not know this,
but the Niners are the Yankees of the West Coast.
No matter what stadium you go into in the NFL,
they'll bring thirty thousand people to a Raiders game, to
a Chargers game, to a Rams game. They'll turn your
stadium red. It's like the Yankees. At the height of
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the Yankees' power is you see Yankee hats everywhere, and
they're kind of the baseball team that moves the needle.
I watch crowds, and I started watching over the last
couple of years, watch the ratings the Cowboys still do well,
but even in Dallas there's sort of an apathy about them.
At their camp, the attendance has been really unspectacular. And
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I'm dead serious on this. I wonder if the Niners,
They've been so good for so many years and so
exciting and so star studied, and we're a celebrity culture.
Everybody plays fantasy football, everybody's betting, so you know, everybody,
Now what team has the most stars? The Niners by far.
I wonder if, slowly, and I'm serious, if the Niners
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aren't becoming America's team. They've got like nine star players.
The Cowboys have three, and in Cowboy fans in a
survey this week, said yeah, we have no chance to
get to the Super Bowl over the next ten years.
So when Cowboy fans are bailing, what does it tell you.
I'm fascinated to watch the early ratings this year. I
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feel like most of my life now, when I was
young J Mack in the seventies, I felt like the
Steelers were America's team.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
They were they were then they win three or four Super.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bowl Well, they were just they were just they had
like nine Hall of Famers and the steel Workers eventually
around the country who had been displaced would move around
the country had steeler bars everywhere. And then I felt
during Farb's run it was a little bit like the
Packers got really really popular. The numbers were very even
with the cow with the Cowboys. During the Barb run,
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Farb was beloved.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was like mid late nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But if you go to the Niners since Bill Walsh
and Montana and you know, even the Kaepernick years, they
were exciting. Uh, And now I kind of feel like
I should go upstairs and ask Mobile Hill or Mike Molbihill.
I wonder if the Niners aren't becoming we've hit a
rubicon that they're gonna move past the Cowboys as the
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most popular national team.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Well, it's possible. Listen, Niners Jets Week one is going
to have a massive number.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That's huge.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But when's the last Niner game that didn't get a
massive number? Rogers returning, and I think, think how big
the brand is. They're quarterbacks, they are you know, eight
best players. The quarterback's not a superstar. So where's the Cowboys?
Were led by Romo or dak or eight?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You wrote you get led by Romo.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Romo was wildly popular and polarizing.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, tell me how many times he finished top three
in the MVP voting.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Why is he at CBS doing the games?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
What does that mean he's a popular This is mean
a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He was was a B plus quarterback, So what's Party
a B quarter That's insane.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
But by the way, Party makes a great point about Hey,
I'm gonna toss interceptions in camp.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Who cares?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
This is when you're time time to experiment. Can fit
it in this window. I know people are going overboard
trying to bast Party.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We're not, first of all, making fun of his camp interceptions.
This show is not that sick. I agree with a
little tongue in cheek on the show.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
That being said, you we both like to pick our favorites,
and it's clear Party is not one of your favorites,
and he has.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Been come one of mine. As I'm a champion for
the underdog.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
You like the Coastal Elite, you like your super so
tectric behooves, he's so good.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, I'll champion the underdog.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Final story is, Oh, here we go, Dak Prescott for
fading America's team, still waiting for that long term deal
as he enters the final year of his contract. He
had a one on one sit down with the Dallas
TV stations and Colin he can't stop talking about the
possibility of finishing his career elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Oh let me here, let me hear.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Having a kid your perspective changes a little bit of life.
Lout of quarterbacks that have done that. And that's just
the business and the nature of this game. That's me
not being naive to that and to those potentials. And
as I said in that press conference, and that's something
that I look for or prepare even planned for. But
if something like that happens, I'll be most certainly ready
for it. I've got a ton of confidence. But that's
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also not something that I, honestly I think about. I'm
here in training camp and focused on this year. I'm
on a contract for this year, and that's all care about.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No. I think I think those are I don't have
a problem with any of that. He's listen. If Dak
is going to do interviews and people are obviously going
to ask about it, he has a right to answer
the question. I don't feel like he's feeding anything. I
think those are very grown up. Dak has never disappointed
me in front of a microphone. I think he is
the model. Dak Prescott is the NFL model of how
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to act at the podium and in interviews. He's literally
as good as I've ever seen. He's like Brady franchise quarterback. No,
I mean, and by the way, there's that matters. I
know you guys out there think it's about arm and speed.
That is a big deal. Dak is the goal. He
is the role model for how to act at a
podium and during an interview.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, you get like the Rookie Quarterback Symposium or whatever,
and you put on a Dak video.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
This is what we want from you at the podium. Now,
let me ask you true or false?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
This is the best three year run for the Cowboys
post Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
If I'm Dak Prescott, I go to Elise and say,
I'm your guy.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You guys drafted me. I've been here forever. I'm eligible
to make a lot of money from him.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
If you don't want to pay that to me, guess what,
I'm okay taking less money to go elsewhere. And I
would not be surprised at that unfolds here. He knows, Hey,
I'm your guy. Jerry, pay me the money, and if
you don't want to pay me, fine, I don't mind
going play for forty five for the Raiders. You know
why out of principle that you're not showing me the
respect I.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Deserve for what I did for this team. Well, I
think Dak Prescott is complex. So one of the things
I take pride in is I can admit I'm wrong,
and I can also say I don't love Dak's talent necessarily.
I think he's pretty okay throwing and moving. But two
things I love is his ability to be a grown
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up and also his work ethic. Clearly the players love
him in the locker room. He's a leader. Here's the
other thing I could admit. There's going to be a
bigger market for Dak than anybody thinks. I have already
talked to one general manager in the last month that
will be very interested in Dak Prescott. Why if you're
a chaotic organization with a temperamental, weird owner, Dak Prescott
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brings the temperature.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Okay, that's that is a let me take you something.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It used to be NFL owners were worth eight hundred
million dollars seven hundred million dollars ten years ago, twelve
years ago. So you just didn't fire a staff. It
wasn't a rounding air. You didn't want to pay twenty
eight million for them. Now they're worth four billion, three billion,
six billion. When people get richer, they get crazier, okay,
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and these owners now are more impulsive. There's a higher
percentage of looney tunes upstairs. And when coaches know the
owners wacko, what do they want? Stability on the field
and at quarterback Dak just put in Dak's helmet or
back of his jersey, say grown up a dull And
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I'm telling you more than people think watching this show.
General managers and coaches have to put out fires because
of looney tunes upstairs. I could name five off the
top of my head. And so Dak will bring the
temperature down, he'll win you games. There's a lot I
like about Dak. I don't want to pay him fifty
nine million dollars, but if I have to go fifty two,
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the CAP's gonna go up thirteen million bucks next year
of the year.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
After all, he's in a no tax, great tax situation
in Texas. If the Raiders won him another great tax
situation in Nevada. Now there are some other teams that
could be interested that are in high tax states where
maybe that three four, five, seven million dollars is going
to matter to him, right Like, I don't, I don't
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end Don Cason.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't think Dak is driven by money. I think
he's driven by respect. That this organization post Romo, could
have teetered into the ABYSS and Dak won thirteen games
as a rookie. He's kept him on tell, he's gotten
him into the playoffs in a division with Philadelphia, And
I think Dak's looking for a level of respect and
I can respect that.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And would you say that he's not getting that respect currently?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
No, he's been respected. I'm just saying that right now.
I think he's always been I think Dallas has treated
him fairly. This is going to be wrapped up before
the end of.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The season, end of the season or preseason.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
End of the season. I think they'll get I think
they'll get The MIC is going to get wrapped up
pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Too.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I don't want worry.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
About because if Dak comes out and plays like he
did last year, you can't pay him anything less than
top dollar.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
If he has another year like last year where he
was excellent.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Jerry Jones has proven despite what Jerry says, it's more
important for him to be relevant than great. Jerry proves
that time and time again. He signed stars to contracts.
Jerry loves to be in the news. I've argued this before.
Jerry pushes all these contracts down the road. Why because
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people like us talk about it instead of signing a
quick contract and getting off television. Jerry loves it being
discussed for four or five six months. At Dack's last
contract got discussed for a year. Jerry's like free publicity.
Jerry tells you he wants to win the Super Bowl. No,
what Jerry wants to be is relevant. It's good for business,
it sells merch. J Mack with a news Well.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
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Speaker 1 (27:28):
Herd Line News to see college football teams out for practice.
I'm told Lincoln Riley's on the hot seat. He's not,
by the way, very excited for this season. It's gonna
be a massive college football year. I can't get enough
of it. So two stories yesterday about the Olympic men's
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basketball team. Number one, Steve Kerr reacting to all the
Tatum topics and the mb'd criticism, says, listen, the NBA
is popular worldwide, said Steve Kerr. Regular season's kind of
a soap opera. We understand that social media takes over.
Everybody now gets so dramatic. I think we have to
give the guys more credit. Uh, they're gonna you know,
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they're that they understand what the gold medal means. Snoop
Dogg came out and reported that the men's basketball players
are unbothered by Steve Kerr's rotations. Okay, so let me
support the media here a little bit. And I don't
always Yes, people overreact in the media and they get
very dramatic. Yes, and I do think players Snoop Dogg
is right, are unbothered by this. But Jason Tatum playing
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no minutes is newsworthy and Joe Lmbid once again clogging
up an offense and being yanked out of a game
two and a half minutes in is newsworthy as a
former NBA MVP. Now, NBA players I think are smart.
They understand that this is the Olympic. There is no bench.
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Bench guys are all NBA. It's only forty minutes. It's
eight minutes shorter. It is harder to get guys in.
But I will argue no minutes for a guy two
years ago that was the most valuable player in the league,
m beat and he clearly clogs up and messes up
the offense, And no minutes in the game for Jason Tatum.
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When Derek White, the fourth best player or fifth best
player for the Celtics, is getting substantial minutes, it's newsworthy.
It needs to be talked about. And the other thing
is social media is a big part of the NBA's popularity.
We watch football. How do I know. I work at
a TV network. I see the ratings every day. We
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watch college football, we watch the NFL. We sort of
debate the NBA. We don't watch it. We don't really
watch college basketball's regular season. We watch the tournament because
it's a bracket, and we don't really watch the NBA
until you get mostly to the finals or maybe occasionally
a conference finals. But we debated on social media, and
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that's okay. Baseball gets neither big ratings or debate on
social media. So that's a lane that the NBA does
well at. But I can't unsee what I didn't see
with MBID, which is not playing, which is getting yanked
off the floor in two minutes, it's newsworthy. It's debatable,
it's discussable. Again. It'd be one thing if the only
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Celtic on the team was Tatum. But when Derek White
and Drew Holliday are playing substantial minutes and Tatum gets none.
I've been told these first team All NBA Top five
player for a year. None. It's something. Listen, when Isaiah
Thomas didn't make the team Dream Team, it was newsworthy.
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When Jalen Brown didn't make this team Finals MVP, Conference Finals, MVP,
it's newsworthy. Now, I'm not saying the media can't be
a little over dramatic at times. It's you'll notice this,
you know when the media tends to be really dramatic
during the summer, when there's fewer sports actually for seven
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months of the fall in the winter. With football, college
and pro, you don't have to be The stories create
themselves and people watch football.
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Guardian Baseball talk Yankees Dodgers World.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Series back the next week. You're gonna bet up in
the Pacific Northwest. Phillies come to Los Angeles. Bryce Harper's
in a terrible slump. He's won for his last thirty
who we're slump in his career, but he's got the
right mindset. Just go up, swing hard. But Phillies are
not playing well. It's impossible to play well the whole season.
Phillies have the best team. They're just going through the
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dregs of baseball.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Dodgers will get their guys back'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So that's gonna be a big series in Los Angeles.
So Drake may has been the one rookie quarterback drafted
and his not good. But he's also young, not very polished.
This is all pretty predictable. There's some justin Herbert comps.
That's what all my you know, scouts and execs that
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I called said, there's a little justin Herbert, very little.
Apparently yesterday he had a decent practice. But a Girard Mayo.
Gerard Mayo says being a rookies hard.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Noice like to be a rookie, and it's not it's
not all peaches and cream. You probably remember this in
San Francisco my rookie year. You know, I got benched
on third down. I only played early downs because I
just wasn't ready. That was like week ten, right, it
was like week ten, week eleven. But it was a
wake up call for me to get benched in you know,
from there on I was done.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I was Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Still got benched, So I think whatever we want to
talk about with Drake there, we'll be up to downsand
hopefully it ends on up.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
By the way, Apparently my take that Joe Milton, the
sixth round quarterback who is kind of his last year
at Tennessee, a touchdown machine in the best conference, could
get real snaps on this team eventually. Apparently that was
a hot take. Let me ask you if I had
said the day after the twenty twenty two draft that
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Brock Purdy the two hundred and sixty second pick, would
eventually replace Trey Lance, the number three pick, they would
dump Trey Lance, would that have been a hot take? Oh,
it would have. If I'd have said a year before
Kevin Durant went to the Warriors, I suspect Kevin Durant
will leave okay See and go to his rival, that
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too would have been a hot take. Be careful about
hot takes. They happen all the time. Joe Milton, in
the best college football conference in the country, had thirty
touchdown passes, rushed for seven touchdowns, and had five picks.
Passer rating through the roof completed sixty five percent, and
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had easily the strongest arm of any quarterback in this draft.
Both Josh Hype and Jim Harbaugh fell in love with him.
Now he misses open receivers. He can be a little,
very inconsistent throwing the ball. But I'll throw this out
to you, Jacoby Brissette has been benched or has been
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injured during a season more than once. Sixty quarterbacks played
last year, and I will tell you, of all the
first round quarterbacks, Drake May is the least prepared to
play right now in a culture in New England that
leads heavily to the defensive side. So if Brissett goes down,
you're telling me Joe Milton, bigger, stronger, arm, better athlete
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than Drake May, potentially wouldn't get snaps. I don't know
what's going to happen, but the idea that it couldn't happen.
The SEC is the best football conference. Go look at
Tennessee's schedule. Go watch the first half of Joe Milton
against Alabama. Go watch the first half of that game.
Go watch it. Some of you are selling me Will Levis.
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I'm not sure Will Levis is better than Joe Milton.
I mean, didn't, didn't Will Levis lose to Vanderbilt. Okay,
the academic power of the South. So slow down on this.
I just think a lot of things. If you look
at the NFL sixty quarterbacks play, Patriots don't have a
great old line. They've missed on several picks. They have
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one of the worst O lines, receiving cores, running back rooms,
defensive culture. They are not going to move the ball.
Do you think they're gonna stick with Jacoby Brissett for
seventeen weeks? At some point They're gonna go to a backup.
I'm just saying, could he take snaps? Why not? Why
couldn't he take snaps? Remember if Brock Purty came out
and I said they're they're gonna go with pretty over
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Trey Lance, that would have been outrageous, and it actually happened.
So I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I wouldn't
be surprised at all. Jim Harbugh, jish Hipel, they know offense,
they both fell in love with him. Now he frustrated them.
But you know, some guys are developed more slowly. I mean,
he took a lot of snaps in college. He bounced
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around in college. He had a lot of great personnel.
Guys really like him. Misses a lot of throws, but
he's a power thrower on a team that's going to struggle.
I mean, my guess is New England will be the
lowest scoring team in the NFL, and I don't think
it'll be particularly close. You could say Carolina they have
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an offensive coach. Well, the Giants, they have an offensive coach.
I got a rookie defensive coach and bad everywhere. I
think all three of these guys are going to play.
And Milton can be impressive. I've watched enough of him.
You go watch half here and a half there. I mean,
Harbaugh fell in love with him, not for long, but
he fell in love with him. He's an impressive thrower
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of the football. By the way, Albert Breer is going
to be joining us here on a Friday. He has
been so far. These are the camps he's been to,
the Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, the Cowboys, the Cardinals,
the Seahawks, Niners, Broncos, Packers. Very excited for that. Plus
it's college football. Very excited as the Pac twelve merges
into the Big Ten this year. J Mack, I'm a
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college football addict. You're you're a college basketball addict, but
you love college football. What are give me? If as
we had as we head into the college football's practice today,
one practice today, one give me a story, Like I'll
give you an example, Shaduur Sanders Deon Sanders. Are you
over at the core into that?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Well, mostly because of the NFL, he's gonna be if
he stays on track at top ten pick maybe top five,
top five, Well maybe we'll see. Like you said, he
didn't end the season strong last year, had the injuries,
had some offseason online kerfuffles if you will, Yeah, but
I'm interested in that. I'm interested in the Ohio State
quarterback situation. I like the Georgia quarterback a lot. I
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see our guy Bruce Feldman hyping up, like the Kansas
State quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Keep Kansas State and Utah are going to battle for
the Big twelve. They're both good teams.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
That's what I like about college football.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Guys pop and they rise and you're like, who is
this guy?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Where he come from? And then you know his full story.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Then he goes to the league and like you said,
that's hurt the NBA. You have this entire narrative and
career arc of a quarterback. Joe Burrows story was amazing
in college, couldn't crack the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Room at Ohio. Then he went to LSU. In his
junior year he was.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Okay, fifteen touchdown passes, You're like, oh this guy, eh,
seventh round pick maybe and then boom, the greatest season
in college football.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Penns. Keep your eye on Shador Sanders back the quarterback
at Georgia Riley Leonard I think is now Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think he transferred from Duke to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So keep your He's a little fin, a little raw,
but the.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
People Daniel Jones ish, which is nuts.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Also, the kid at Penn State is very very interesting, promising.
He's promising. We'll see Oregon's got Nebraska's got a quarterback
that he's a kid.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Looks like he's a Pat Homes look a lot now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
He's not coming out of the draft. But Nebraska's fascinating
because the quarterback for the Cornhuskers, there's stuff all over
the internet that he actually does his stylistically looks like
he's a high school kid. He was like a five
star kid. They got him at Nebraska. He looks like Mahomes,
the way he throws off balance.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
The mannerisms shot he basically has the Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Starter kid, and he's like, Okay, what do I wear today?
Speaker 6 (40:23):
It comes out and it looks exactly like he does,
and it's kind of become like you're right a thing
in Nebraska's leaning into it socially and you could see
the Chiefs, I think are even pushing.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It a little bit.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
It's and the kid is I think he had like
an SEC commit and then decommitted.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, no, he's like everybody in the country wanted him
so but there's some really good stories. I mean, I
think Texas Oklahoma going to the SEC. Texas has packed
jam with talent, maybe next to George is the best
talent in the conference. At Bama's got a new coach.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I think.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I think the team that everybody is overlooking is Oregon.
I think Oregon can go toe to toe with anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Their NIL is the best in college football along with
Texas and Texas A and m so. Some of it
is they bought more players whatever, it's legal.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Finally me low key interesting, Dabo Sweeney, what's going on there?
In Clemson? He was the toast of the town.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well, he's a couple of years ago and will not
use the portal.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Like this is an easy way to fortify your roster,
and he refuses to do it. I wonder if they
have a middling year and he's on the hot seat
all of a sudden, and they will do that to you.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
How about this? How about this first game? LSU USC
Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, two of the most polarizing coaches.
What's either team great? I would think LSU is favored
by six or something. It's in Vegas. I like LSU
to win, but I LSU lost Jayden Daniels. Their defense
has been a mess the last couple of years. Hour
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So I watched with anticipation for the new kickoff rule.
I was hoping for Caleb Williams. Still don't know why
it isn't play. You get into that later, But I
got a few thoughts on the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It was jarring, for sure, jarring.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, little video game looking it looks a little odd,
but and I think about this a lot in my life.
What was the intent. The intent is we're trying to
reduce the number of concussions for these amazing athletes who
put their body in harm's way. Generally, in my life,
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if your intent is good, I'm good. I don't have
to agree. I don't have to agree with every single
position or policy of my favorite political candidate to vote
for them. I don't have to agree with my wife
on every debate we have the lover. I've worked at
companies that make decisions I don't agree with. I can
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still like a company. People in life are too rigid.
Americans complain too much. Football is amazing. Stop seeking perfection.
You want perfection, look in the mirror. Do you live
up to that standard. Football's not perfect, but it's great.
There's a lot of rules in football I don't like.
I think it's way too punitive that you fumble out
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of the end zone and in football you lose possession.
I think that's ridiculous. I think college football has pass
interference right where it's a fifteen yard penalty, not fifty
eight yards because your legs get tangled up. The NFL's
not perfect, but they're always willing, unlike baseball, to change things.
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The catch rule was screwy for several years and they
changed it. In basketball, the Olympics have the FEEBA rules,
the NBA has their rules. I actually prefer some of
the FEBA rules. If your intent is in the right
place to protect these amazing athletes who are putting their
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body in treacherous positions in a sport with semi regulated
levels of violence, then I'm okay with it. I remember
when UFC started and Dana White and the Fritidas came
out and they took out some of the more ugly
eye gouging, and all the UFC fans can play, oh well,
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you put a skirt on. The sport has done nothing
but explode and grow. Yes, I know there's the guys
out there. Why don't you just play flag football? Oh yeah,
because nobody would watch it. I love soft. Pudgy guy
on the couch suddenly telling me the league went soft.
This league is for men, big strong men colliding into
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each other. Let's create rules that at least protect them.
And by the way, I watched the kickoffs last night,
seven of eight were return seven of more football, just
like when they changed the pat rule, more real football,
less going to the fridge for another beer. Last year,
seventy three percent of kickoffs were touchbacks. Less football. Trust
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the NFL. They know what they're doing. They're not perfect,
but their rules committee makes changes almost ohways for the
right reasons. It's better for the fans, or in this instance,
it's healthier for the players. Listen, it looks a little odd.
It'll take them getting used to. So did the three
point line the first year it came out, and then
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I got used to it. Here's the Bears coach Matt
Eberflus on the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You have to figure it out, like, hey, what is
it going to look like?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So certainly we've tried different things on the return team
and different way to attack on the cover team and
putting different bodies in different spots.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So we're really just trying to figure it out. And
I think that's where all coaches are. We're just trying
to figure it out and do the best thing we can,
and that's going to be on going through the whole season,
and then you'll have to adjust.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
That's the way the NFL is.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Many of you romanticize about the dream team, this Olympic
basketball team, deeper, more talented, more skilled, more positionless, and
many of you. When the NFL brought out rules to
protect the quarterback, I was at another company. This will
ruin the game, and the ratings and the revenue have
gone up, up, up, up up. I don't watch football
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for players getting hurt in violence. I watch it for efficiency,
great offense, amazing quarterback play. And yet last year, with
all the protective measures with quarterbacks, over sixty took a snap.
You don't watch football for the kickoffs. Stop it. Three
out of four go into the end zone. How many
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kickoff returns for touchdowns were there in the NFL last year,
less than a half dozen. I bet you we have
more this year. But I also know for a fact
you'll have more kicks returned. And let's circle back to
the very beginning. If the intent in life is good,
I'm not seeking perfe They're doing it for the right reasons.
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Take a deep breath. Change is hard for a lot
of people. You're still going to watch the games. So
I saw this the NFL. Interesting story. It feels small,
but is it. The NFL had to shut down a
rule book loophole that was being exploited last year by
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three teams. The three teams were the Miami Dolphins, the
San Francisco forty nine Ers, and the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
In Week one, the Dolphins used a certain motion that
it looked like players often got a running start. So
what of those three teams have in common? All three
have really smart, young offensive coaches. By the way, the
three teams that led the NFL in motion last year
in deception the same three teams. For the record, I
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want my accountant and my coaches pushing the envelope using
anything they can that is legal and it was now.
The league can step in just like the IRS can
and close a loophole, but I want my coaches pushing
to the edge. If you go to the last like
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twelve coaches that have got to Super Bowls or the
AFC NFC Championship, I think it's like eleven of twelve.
John Harbaugh is the only exception, but he knows offense.
Eleven of twelve have been offensive coaches. Push, push, push,
apologize later create progressive smart, looking for loopholes and edges.
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Bill Belichick was a great coach. Brady retired he fell
off a cliff. Look around at the teams that run
less motion, struggle to rebuild. Offensive lines aren't very creative.
It's overwhelmingly defensive staffs, defensive leaning cultures. That doesn't mean
Demko Ryans can't win a Super Bowl if he gets
a star quarterback, but if he loses his OC watch out.
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If I'm an owner today, I am looking around thinking,
why did my coaches not use that loophole that won
the Rams and the Dolphins and the Niners games?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Why?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Why is my accountant not doing that? Why is my
owner not doing that? You know what rich guys probably
do when they see somebody gets a loophole shut down
by the I R S, They call their accountant and say,
why weren't you using that? And That's what I'm doing today.
Is a GM or an owner, what Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin,
why weren't you using that Pete Carroll's last year? Why
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weren't you doing that? I want my coaches to push
the envelope. By the way, Philadelphia, the tush push make
the league outlawed. I think it's dangerous to have your
quarterback in a position where play pushing him from behind.
I saw a couple of quarterbacks I think Daniel Jones
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or a Herbert actually got a little dinged up with
the Toush push. But I love the creativity of it.
I love the Eagles creating something that absolutely moved the
chains and without a doubt, won a game or two.
There's no question they extended drives throughout the course of
the last two years with a Toushbush. It may not
work without Jason Kelce and Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni
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may move off it, or the league may end it.
That's up for debate. I think it's an ugly play
that could get guys hurt, but make the league outlawed.
Push to the very edge. All right, Albert Brear is
coming up about an hour from now. J Mack, I'm
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watching this Olympic basketball mostly guys. I would watch more
if Caitlin Clark was playing on the other side. But
it's such mismashes. And Steve Kerr got a little testy yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, he got a little testy with this, and I'm
going to defend us because I think and I love
Steve Kerr. I think he's really smart. He was a
Portland Trailblazer for a brief time when I covered the team,
so one of the smartest guys that's ever been in
this league. Great broadcaster, GM coach, player, But he is
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saying something that I can agree with in principle, but
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Speaker 1 (10:55):
So I'm happy in the Hall of Fame game that
back up Brett Rippon slinging it and that's great. But
as I watched the game, my takeaway was, why didn't
Caleb Williams play?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I get veterans not playing, I get banged up offensive
or defensive lineman not playing. I totally get it, but
as a rookie versus vanilla schemes, let's chop it up.
I mean, Caleb Williams hasn't played since like November it's like,
I think it's time to play a little bit. Andrew Luck,
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for the record, played almost the entire first half of
his first preseason game. Tom Brady debuted in this game,
the Hall of Fame game. Patrick Mahomes plays in the preseason.
And I think Caleb's going to be very successful. How successful,
I don't know. It's the Bears, and the Bears have
a history of screwing stuff up with young quarterbacks. They
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either draft the wrong one, or they don't protect him
with offensive line, or they hire the wrong coach or
coordinator for the young quarterback. So let's not treat Caleb
Williams like a star or superstar before. He's actually very good.
And I said yesterday, I do think he's the only
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quarterback in this draft that if the organization can't get
it right, he'll be productive. He'll be like Kyler Murray
is the example I used. He'll get paid, he'll have
good stats, he'll move the chains. But there's a lot
of doubters. I'll tell you this, it's not Andrew Luck.
When Andrew Luck came out, I called every exec and
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scout I knew the year before he came out, and
they were like that's Lway. Stanford, smart, tough arm moves,
that's Lway. Always considered the greatest prospect ever, that's Lway.
Trevor Lawrence had people that pushed back, even though I
loved him. Greg Cosell to this day is like, he's
not as talented Colin as you think. Caleb Williams gets
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pushed back, the fingernagels with vulgarity on them, jumping in
the stands. He could be moody on the sidelines. Sometimes
his accuracy was a little hit and miss. The perpetual
ad libbing out of plays designed by Lincoln Riley that
could be successful. And add to all of that the
Chicago Bears who screwed up all the time on offense.
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So he is not a slam dunk. I think he's
too talented not to be productive. But remember Patrick Mahomes.
SAT has had Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola, Travis Kelcey, a
great GM and great ownership. Do you know the only
MLS team I'm told there's only one or two MLS
teams that are highly profitable. One of them's Dallas FC,
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who's it owned by Clark Hunt, who owns the Chiefs.
Clark Hunt Patrick Mahomes would go into the weeds all
the time, and Andy Reid would pull him back and
get his mechanics on track. Matt Eberflus, that's not his specialty. Again,
you have in Kansas City great ownership, not good front office,
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great coach, great support system. You don't really have that
in Chicago. I think Ryan Poles the GM has been
impressive in the last eighteen months, but you don't have
great ownership. Little old and out of touch. We don't
know about Matt Eberflus. The targets young and old, many
passed their prime outside of Dj Moore, or too young
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to be substantially impactful. So I don't understand. I mean
only one. I start looking at these quarterbacks and you
can't play scared. I mean, only one quarterback in the
league the last two years has played every started every game,
played every snap, right, So it's like you just got
to play guys if they get hurt, and what do
you do? You cross your fingers. So he didn't have
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good offensive lines at USC and he didn't get banged
up very much, So I just I didn't get it.
Andrew Luck first time he could play, played him for
a first half vanilla schemes against third teamers. Get him
some apps, let him chop it up. J Mack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
This is the Herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's a not great news to start the show.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Justin Herbert was diagnosed with plantar fascia in his right foot,
which will put him in a walking boot for the
next two weeks, very painful. Following the walking boot, Herbert
will be on a gradual return to play protocol, but
is expected to be ready for Week one.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
This is not great.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
I know several you know moms and dads who have
plantar fasci itis and.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It is just it's gruel.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
It just doesn't go away. I don't know how NFL
quarterback is going.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
To deal with this. I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I mean, if he's not one hundred percent, you can
just forget the season, right.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The Chargers are not going to contend to compete.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, that for anything I've said. The next month is
the worst month for football. There's no great news for
the next month. There's only bad news there. What's the
best news you could get? Hey, that rookie in the
fourth round looks like he may start. There's no that's
not great news. It's good news. There's incouraging news. So
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this is the only month of the year in football
with the news is all bad. The rest of it's
rumor speculation, which is fun. We dabble in that. That's fun.
You never know. But yeah, this is a bad month.
This has cross your fingers month. Every morning I get up,
I go to the NFL wire. First thing I look
at is is everybody helping?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's clutch. All right.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Next up, let's go to brock party. You were kind
of scoffing at the combined seven interceptions he had in
practice on Monday, Gary, you know, now turnover free.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
On Wednesday, he was lighting it up.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
But I guess Brock Purdy heard your derision and he's
addressed why he's throwing so many picks in the warm
up to the preseason.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Oh, you want to go out, you want to be efficient,
you want to go through reads and obviously protect the
ball and whatnot. But right now is the time for
us to go out. And you know, you always hear
the quarterbacks say experiment, but that's really what it is.
Can I fit it in this window on this hitch?
Can I look off Fred or Flann or Devandre in
a certain way and then make that throwbackside. You got
to try it out. I mean in the game and
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in the season. It comes down to protecting the ball
every snap, every player. So you can't necessarily try those
things out right now. We can, and so my mindset
right now is, you know, protect the ball, but let's
be aggressive. Let's try this out. Let's figure it out.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You know, did you want You see the crowds there
at Niners camp. It's packed.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You see the crowds at Cowboy Camp. Nobody's there.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was thinking about this. So if you live in
the Midwest or the East Coast, you may not know this,
but the Niners are the Yankees of the West Coast.
No matter what stadium you go into in the NFL,
they'll bring thirty thousand people to a Raiders game, to
a Chargers game, to a Rams game. They'll turn your
stadium red. It's like the Yankees. At the height of
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the Yankees' power is you see Yankee hats everywhere, and
they're kind of the baseball team that moves the needle.
I watch crowds, and I started watching over the last
couple of years, watch the ratings the Cowboys still do well,
but even in Dallas there's sort of an apathy about them.
At their camp, the attendance has been really unspectacular. And
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I'm dead serious on this. I wonder if the Niners,
They've been so good for so many years and so
exciting and so star studied, and we're a celebrity culture.
Everybody plays fantasy football, everybody's betting, so you know, everybody,
Now what team has the most stars? The Niners by far.
I wonder if, slowly, and I'm serious, if the Niners
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aren't becoming America's team. They've got like nine star players.
The Cowboys have three, and in Cowboy fans in a
survey this week, said yeah, we have no chance to
get to the Super Bowl over the next ten years.
So when Cowboy fans are bailing, what does it tell you.
I'm fascinated to watch the early ratings this year. I
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feel like most of my life now, when I was
young J Mack in the seventies, I felt like the
Steelers were America's team.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
They were they were then they win three or four Super.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bowl Well, they were just they were just they had
like nine Hall of Famers and the steel Workers eventually
around the country who had been displaced would move around
the country had steeler bars everywhere. And then I felt
during Farb's run it was a little bit like the
Packers got really really popular. The numbers were very even
with the cow with the Cowboys. During the Barb run,
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Farb was beloved.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was like mid late nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But if you go to the Niners since Bill Walsh
and Montana and you know, even the Kaepernick years, they
were exciting. Uh, And now I kind of feel like
I should go upstairs and ask Mobile Hill or Mike Molbihill.
I wonder if the Niners aren't becoming we've hit a
rubicon that they're gonna move past the Cowboys as the
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most popular national team.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Well, it's possible. Listen, Niners Jets Week one is going
to have a massive number.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That's huge.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But when's the last Niner game that didn't get a
massive number? Rogers returning, and I think, think how big
the brand is. They're quarterbacks, they are you know, eight
best players. The quarterback's not a superstar. So where's the Cowboys?
Were led by Romo or dak or eight?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You wrote you get led by Romo.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Romo was wildly popular and polarizing.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, tell me how many times he finished top three
in the MVP voting.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Why is he at CBS doing the games?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
What does that mean he's a popular This is mean
a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He was was a B plus quarterback, So what's Party
a B quarter That's insane.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
But by the way, Party makes a great point about Hey,
I'm gonna toss interceptions in camp.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Who cares?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
This is when you're time time to experiment. Can fit
it in this window. I know people are going overboard
trying to bast Party.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We're not, first of all, making fun of his camp interceptions.
This show is not that sick. I agree with a
little tongue in cheek on the show.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
That being said, you we both like to pick our favorites,
and it's clear Party is not one of your favorites,
and he has.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Been come one of mine. As I'm a champion for
the underdog.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
You like the Coastal Elite, you like your super so
tectric behooves, he's so good.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, I'll champion the underdog.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Final story is, Oh, here we go, Dak Prescott for
fading America's team, still waiting for that long term deal
as he enters the final year of his contract. He
had a one on one sit down with the Dallas
TV stations and Colin he can't stop talking about the
possibility of finishing his career elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Oh let me here, let me hear.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Having a kid your perspective changes a little bit of life.
Lout of quarterbacks that have done that. And that's just
the business and the nature of this game. That's me
not being naive to that and to those potentials. And
as I said in that press conference, and that's something
that I look for or prepare even planned for. But
if something like that happens, I'll be most certainly ready
for it. I've got a ton of confidence. But that's
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also not something that I, honestly I think about. I'm
here in training camp and focused on this year. I'm
on a contract for this year, and that's all care about.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No. I think I think those are I don't have
a problem with any of that. He's listen. If Dak
is going to do interviews and people are obviously going
to ask about it, he has a right to answer
the question. I don't feel like he's feeding anything. I
think those are very grown up. Dak has never disappointed
me in front of a microphone. I think he is
the model. Dak Prescott is the NFL model of how
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to act at the podium and in interviews. He's literally
as good as I've ever seen. He's like Brady franchise quarterback. No,
I mean, and by the way, there's that matters. I
know you guys out there think it's about arm and speed.
That is a big deal. Dak is the goal. He
is the role model for how to act at a
podium and during an interview.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, you get like the Rookie Quarterback Symposium or whatever,
and you put on a Dak video.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
This is what we want from you at the podium. Now,
let me ask you true or false?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
This is the best three year run for the Cowboys
post Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
If I'm Dak Prescott, I go to Elise and say,
I'm your guy.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You guys drafted me. I've been here forever. I'm eligible
to make a lot of money from him.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
If you don't want to pay that to me, guess what,
I'm okay taking less money to go elsewhere. And I
would not be surprised at that unfolds here. He knows, Hey,
I'm your guy. Jerry, pay me the money, and if
you don't want to pay me, fine, I don't mind
going play for forty five for the Raiders. You know
why out of principle that you're not showing me the
respect I.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Deserve for what I did for this team. Well, I
think Dak Prescott is complex. So one of the things
I take pride in is I can admit I'm wrong,
and I can also say I don't love Dak's talent necessarily.
I think he's pretty okay throwing and moving. But two
things I love is his ability to be a grown
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up and also his work ethic. Clearly the players love
him in the locker room. He's a leader. Here's the
other thing I could admit. There's going to be a
bigger market for Dak than anybody thinks. I have already
talked to one general manager in the last month that
will be very interested in Dak Prescott. Why if you're
a chaotic organization with a temperamental, weird owner, Dak Prescott
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brings the temperature.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Okay, that's that is a let me take you something.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It used to be NFL owners were worth eight hundred
million dollars seven hundred million dollars ten years ago, twelve
years ago. So you just didn't fire a staff. It
wasn't a rounding air. You didn't want to pay twenty
eight million for them. Now they're worth four billion, three billion,
six billion. When people get richer, they get crazier, okay,
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and these owners now are more impulsive. There's a higher
percentage of looney tunes upstairs. And when coaches know the
owners wacko, what do they want? Stability on the field
and at quarterback Dak just put in Dak's helmet or
back of his jersey, say grown up a dull And
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I'm telling you more than people think watching this show.
General managers and coaches have to put out fires because
of looney tunes upstairs. I could name five off the
top of my head. And so Dak will bring the
temperature down, he'll win you games. There's a lot I
like about Dak. I don't want to pay him fifty
nine million dollars, but if I have to go fifty two,
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the CAP's gonna go up thirteen million bucks next year
of the year.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
After all, he's in a no tax, great tax situation
in Texas. If the Raiders won him another great tax
situation in Nevada. Now there are some other teams that
could be interested that are in high tax states where
maybe that three four, five, seven million dollars is going
to matter to him, right Like, I don't, I don't
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end Don Cason.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't think Dak is driven by money. I think
he's driven by respect. That this organization post Romo, could
have teetered into the ABYSS and Dak won thirteen games
as a rookie. He's kept him on tell, he's gotten
him into the playoffs in a division with Philadelphia, And
I think Dak's looking for a level of respect and
I can respect that.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And would you say that he's not getting that respect currently?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
No, he's been respected. I'm just saying that right now.
I think he's always been I think Dallas has treated
him fairly. This is going to be wrapped up before
the end of.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The season, end of the season or preseason.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
End of the season. I think they'll get I think
they'll get The MIC is going to get wrapped up
pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Too.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I don't want worry.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
About because if Dak comes out and plays like he
did last year, you can't pay him anything less than
top dollar.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
If he has another year like last year where he
was excellent.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Jerry Jones has proven despite what Jerry says, it's more
important for him to be relevant than great. Jerry proves
that time and time again. He signed stars to contracts.
Jerry loves to be in the news. I've argued this before.
Jerry pushes all these contracts down the road. Why because
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people like us talk about it instead of signing a
quick contract and getting off television. Jerry loves it being
discussed for four or five six months. At Dack's last
contract got discussed for a year. Jerry's like free publicity.
Jerry tells you he wants to win the Super Bowl. No,
what Jerry wants to be is relevant. It's good for business,
it sells merch. J Mack with a news Well.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Herd Line News to see college football teams out for practice.
I'm told Lincoln Riley's on the hot seat. He's not,
by the way, very excited for this season. It's gonna
be a massive college football year. I can't get enough
of it. So two stories yesterday about the Olympic men's
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basketball team. Number one, Steve Kerr reacting to all the
Tatum topics and the mb'd criticism, says, listen, the NBA
is popular worldwide, said Steve Kerr. Regular season's kind of
a soap opera. We understand that social media takes over.
Everybody now gets so dramatic. I think we have to
give the guys more credit. Uh, they're gonna you know,
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they're that they understand what the gold medal means. Snoop
Dogg came out and reported that the men's basketball players
are unbothered by Steve Kerr's rotations. Okay, so let me
support the media here a little bit. And I don't
always Yes, people overreact in the media and they get
very dramatic. Yes, and I do think players Snoop Dogg
is right, are unbothered by this. But Jason Tatum playing
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no minutes is newsworthy and Joe Lmbid once again clogging
up an offense and being yanked out of a game
two and a half minutes in is newsworthy as a
former NBA MVP. Now, NBA players I think are smart.
They understand that this is the Olympic. There is no bench.
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Bench guys are all NBA. It's only forty minutes. It's
eight minutes shorter. It is harder to get guys in.
But I will argue no minutes for a guy two
years ago that was the most valuable player in the league,
m beat and he clearly clogs up and messes up
the offense, And no minutes in the game for Jason Tatum.
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When Derek White, the fourth best player or fifth best
player for the Celtics, is getting substantial minutes, it's newsworthy.
It needs to be talked about. And the other thing
is social media is a big part of the NBA's popularity.
We watch football. How do I know. I work at
a TV network. I see the ratings every day. We
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watch college football, we watch the NFL. We sort of
debate the NBA. We don't watch it. We don't really
watch college basketball's regular season. We watch the tournament because
it's a bracket, and we don't really watch the NBA
until you get mostly to the finals or maybe occasionally
a conference finals. But we debated on social media, and
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that's okay. Baseball gets neither big ratings or debate on
social media. So that's a lane that the NBA does
well at. But I can't unsee what I didn't see
with MBID, which is not playing, which is getting yanked
off the floor in two minutes, it's newsworthy. It's debatable,
it's discussable. Again. It'd be one thing if the only
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Celtic on the team was Tatum. But when Derek White
and Drew Holliday are playing substantial minutes and Tatum gets none.
I've been told these first team All NBA Top five
player for a year. None. It's something. Listen, when Isaiah
Thomas didn't make the team Dream Team, it was newsworthy.
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When Jalen Brown didn't make this team Finals MVP, Conference Finals, MVP,
it's newsworthy. Now, I'm not saying the media can't be
a little over dramatic at times. It's you'll notice this,
you know when the media tends to be really dramatic
during the summer, when there's fewer sports actually for seven
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months of the fall in the winter. With football, college
and pro, you don't have to be The stories create
themselves and people watch football.
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Guardian's pretty good, says Guardians.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Guardian Baseball talk Yankees Dodgers World.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Series back the next week. You're gonna bet up in
the Pacific Northwest. Phillies come to Los Angeles. Bryce Harper's
in a terrible slump. He's won for his last thirty
who we're slump in his career, but he's got the
right mindset. Just go up, swing hard. But Phillies are
not playing well. It's impossible to play well the whole season.
Phillies have the best team. They're just going through the
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dregs of baseball.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Dodgers will get their guys back'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So that's gonna be a big series in Los Angeles.
So Drake may has been the one rookie quarterback drafted
and his not good. But he's also young, not very polished.
This is all pretty predictable. There's some justin Herbert comps.
That's what all my you know, scouts and execs that
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I called said, there's a little justin Herbert, very little.
Apparently yesterday he had a decent practice. But a Girard Mayo.
Gerard Mayo says being a rookies hard.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Noice like to be a rookie, and it's not it's
not all peaches and cream. You probably remember this in
San Francisco my rookie year. You know, I got benched
on third down. I only played early downs because I
just wasn't ready. That was like week ten, right, it
was like week ten, week eleven. But it was a
wake up call for me to get benched in you know,
from there on I was done.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I was Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Still got benched, So I think whatever we want to
talk about with Drake there, we'll be up to downsand
hopefully it ends on up.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
By the way, Apparently my take that Joe Milton, the
sixth round quarterback who is kind of his last year
at Tennessee, a touchdown machine in the best conference, could
get real snaps on this team eventually. Apparently that was
a hot take. Let me ask you if I had
said the day after the twenty twenty two draft that
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Brock Purdy the two hundred and sixty second pick, would
eventually replace Trey Lance, the number three pick, they would
dump Trey Lance, would that have been a hot take? Oh,
it would have. If I'd have said a year before
Kevin Durant went to the Warriors, I suspect Kevin Durant
will leave okay See and go to his rival, that
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too would have been a hot take. Be careful about
hot takes. They happen all the time. Joe Milton, in
the best college football conference in the country, had thirty
touchdown passes, rushed for seven touchdowns, and had five picks.
Passer rating through the roof completed sixty five percent, and
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had easily the strongest arm of any quarterback in this draft.
Both Josh Hype and Jim Harbaugh fell in love with him.
Now he misses open receivers. He can be a little,
very inconsistent throwing the ball. But I'll throw this out
to you, Jacoby Brissette has been benched or has been
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injured during a season more than once. Sixty quarterbacks played
last year, and I will tell you, of all the
first round quarterbacks, Drake May is the least prepared to
play right now in a culture in New England that
leads heavily to the defensive side. So if Brissett goes down,
you're telling me Joe Milton, bigger, stronger, arm, better athlete
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than Drake May, potentially wouldn't get snaps. I don't know
what's going to happen, but the idea that it couldn't happen.
The SEC is the best football conference. Go look at
Tennessee's schedule. Go watch the first half of Joe Milton
against Alabama. Go watch the first half of that game.
Go watch it. Some of you are selling me Will Levis.
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I'm not sure Will Levis is better than Joe Milton.
I mean, didn't, didn't Will Levis lose to Vanderbilt. Okay,
the academic power of the South. So slow down on this.
I just think a lot of things. If you look
at the NFL sixty quarterbacks play, Patriots don't have a
great old line. They've missed on several picks. They have
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one of the worst O lines, receiving cores, running back rooms,
defensive culture. They are not going to move the ball.
Do you think they're gonna stick with Jacoby Brissett for
seventeen weeks? At some point They're gonna go to a backup.
I'm just saying, could he take snaps? Why not? Why
couldn't he take snaps? Remember if Brock Purty came out
and I said they're they're gonna go with pretty over
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Trey Lance, that would have been outrageous, and it actually happened.
So I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I wouldn't
be surprised at all. Jim Harbugh, jish Hipel, they know offense,
they both fell in love with him. Now he frustrated them.
But you know, some guys are developed more slowly. I mean,
he took a lot of snaps in college. He bounced
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around in college. He had a lot of great personnel.
Guys really like him. Misses a lot of throws, but
he's a power thrower on a team that's going to struggle.
I mean, my guess is New England will be the
lowest scoring team in the NFL, and I don't think
it'll be particularly close. You could say Carolina they have
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an offensive coach. Well, the Giants, they have an offensive coach.
I got a rookie defensive coach and bad everywhere. I
think all three of these guys are going to play.
And Milton can be impressive. I've watched enough of him.
You go watch half here and a half there. I mean,
Harbaugh fell in love with him, not for long, but
he fell in love with him. He's an impressive thrower
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of the football. By the way, Albert Breer is going
to be joining us here on a Friday. He has
been so far. These are the camps he's been to,
the Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, the Cowboys, the Cardinals,
the Seahawks, Niners, Broncos, Packers. Very excited for that. Plus
it's college football. Very excited as the Pac twelve merges
into the Big Ten this year. J Mack, I'm a
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college football addict. You're you're a college basketball addict, but
you love college football. What are give me? If as
we had as we head into the college football's practice today,
one practice today, one give me a story, Like I'll
give you an example, Shaduur Sanders Deon Sanders. Are you
over at the core into that?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Well, mostly because of the NFL, he's gonna be if
he stays on track at top ten pick maybe top five,
top five, Well maybe we'll see. Like you said, he
didn't end the season strong last year, had the injuries,
had some offseason online kerfuffles if you will, Yeah, but
I'm interested in that. I'm interested in the Ohio State
quarterback situation. I like the Georgia quarterback a lot. I
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see our guy Bruce Feldman hyping up, like the Kansas
State quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Keep Kansas State and Utah are going to battle for
the Big twelve. They're both good teams.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
That's what I like about college football.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Guys pop and they rise and you're like, who is
this guy?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Where he come from? And then you know his full story.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Then he goes to the league and like you said,
that's hurt the NBA. You have this entire narrative and
career arc of a quarterback. Joe Burrows story was amazing
in college, couldn't crack the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Room at Ohio. Then he went to LSU. In his
junior year he was.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Okay, fifteen touchdown passes, You're like, oh this guy, eh,
seventh round pick maybe and then boom, the greatest season
in college football.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Penns. Keep your eye on Shador Sanders back the quarterback
at Georgia Riley Leonard I think is now Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think he transferred from Duke to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So keep your He's a little fin, a little raw,
but the.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
People Daniel Jones ish, which is nuts.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Also, the kid at Penn State is very very interesting, promising.
He's promising. We'll see Oregon's got Nebraska's got a quarterback
that he's a kid.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Looks like he's a Pat Homes look a lot now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
He's not coming out of the draft. But Nebraska's fascinating
because the quarterback for the Cornhuskers, there's stuff all over
the internet that he actually does his stylistically looks like
he's a high school kid. He was like a five
star kid. They got him at Nebraska. He looks like Mahomes,
the way he throws off balance.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
The mannerisms shot he basically has the Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Starter kid, and he's like, Okay, what do I wear today?
Speaker 6 (40:23):
It comes out and it looks exactly like he does,
and it's kind of become like you're right a thing
in Nebraska's leaning into it socially and you could see
the Chiefs, I think are even pushing.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It a little bit.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
It's and the kid is I think he had like
an SEC commit and then decommitted.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, no, he's like everybody in the country wanted him
so but there's some really good stories. I mean, I
think Texas Oklahoma going to the SEC. Texas has packed
jam with talent, maybe next to George is the best
talent in the conference. At Bama's got a new coach.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I think.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I think the team that everybody is overlooking is Oregon.
I think Oregon can go toe to toe with anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Their NIL is the best in college football along with
Texas and Texas A and m so. Some of it
is they bought more players whatever, it's legal.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Finally me low key interesting, Dabo Sweeney, what's going on there?
In Clemson? He was the toast of the town.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well, he's a couple of years ago and will not
use the portal.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Like this is an easy way to fortify your roster,
and he refuses to do it. I wonder if they
have a middling year and he's on the hot seat
all of a sudden, and they will do that to you.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
How about this? How about this first game? LSU USC
Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, two of the most polarizing coaches.
What's either team great? I would think LSU is favored
by six or something. It's in Vegas. I like LSU
to win, but I LSU lost Jayden Daniels. Their defense
has been a mess the last couple of years. Hour
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