August 8, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin continues his discussion about players chasing money over better teams
Some times a player just needs to leave one system for another
The unreasonable expectations that are put on rookie players
Guest: Mark Sanchez
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, right, here we go, Mark Sanchez in a couple
of minutes in our studio live in Los Angeles. It's
The Herd on the Thursday. Wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. You know, I was thinking
about this. The Niners just picked up sort of bounce
around the league speed guy, straight down the field runner
Robbie Anderson, who can really run. I think with Sam
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Darnold and the Jets one neat like one of his
go to guys.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He had a great season a Caseets.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, he's a straight runner down the field. Does that
mean they're getting close to a Brandon I Yout deal
is that they're losing Brandon eyuke down the field, so
they're gonna bring in Robbie anders So he could get
cut in four weeks, but they're gonna see it. We
don't need somebody that's wildly productive, but can we bring
a guy that can just run straight down the field,
because that tells me the Brandon Ayyuke deal is probably
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getting close to being finalized. You going to say the Steelers,
and that's fine, But what I'm telling you is you
go from Kyle Shanahan's ability to scheme you open on
a loaded offensive roster where the Niners squeeze every ounce
out of their talent, to a defensive culture that can't
get their offensive line right and quarterbacks that right now
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this morning aren't as good as Brock pretty And I'm
not the biggest Rock Purtty fan, but Brock pretty right
now runs that offense better than anybody's running the Pittsburgh offense.
I get a better offensive line, I get more continuity.
So I mean again, San Francisco does a much better
job to scheme open receivers. That's why when you watch
George Kittle two or three times a game, it's not
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like he's a burner. He'll be wide open. It's why
Cooper Cup to the Rams is always wide open. That's
what really good offensive coaches do. You don't see that
with the Steelers. So I think he'll make the Steelers
because they're not paying anything for their quarterback in Pittsburgh,
so that if the Steelers do land Ayuk, he could
be productive. But they also going to get the ball
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to Pickens. They also have a new offensive coordinator, so
it's he's and he's moving for a few million bucks
a year. It's fine. But I just think there are
certain positions that are dependent on other positions, and I
think if I was a wide receiver, I would love
to line up opposite of Deebo Samuel and then you
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can't cheat in the box because of George Kittle, and
then McCaffrey can catch the ball out of the backfield,
and then you have a coach scheming you up. So
I think it's a great place to be a wide receiver.
That's why Kittle's a fifth rounder, Jennings a sixth rounder,
McCaffrey's better than ever. Well, Kyle Shanahan's a big part
of that. So I'm if I Yuke wants to go
to a defensive culture, so they can't get the old
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line right. They've run through offensive coordinators. It's a tougher conference,
a tougher division. It's a choice and you'll make a
few million dollars, but you're not You're gonna win more
in San Francisco, and you're gonna make a lot of
money in San Francisco. You're just gonna make more. So
I'm not saying money doesn't matter. But as the season
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gets extended, do you want to be invisible in January?
Pittsburgh will be San Francisco won't. And you can make
so much money now on Instagram. NFL guys make money
on shoe deals. There's so many endorsements. It was so interesting.
Years ago. I heard a story. This was like six
years ago. Dak was like in his third year and
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somebody showed me a sheet of all his opportunities with endorsements.
I couldn't believe it. Brady and Mahomes I get. I'm like,
that's not when in playoff games? What there is value
to be an on TV, to be in part of
a big brand, and Niners win a lot of football games.
Niners matter in the NFC in January and February, that's
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when I mean, people love watching the NFL. That's when
they really wantch So it's a choice. But I just
think if I'm a wide receiver I'm like, I want
an offensive coach. I want a highly effective quarterback. Pittsburgh
doesn't even know who their quarterback is. They don't know
who it is. You got to learn a new playbook.
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It's a choice. But Robbie Anderson does feel like they
may be sealing up this deal. It's been rumored a
lot of smart NFL reporters. I got singed on this.
This thing's been back and forth. Apparently there's a lot
of acrimony right now in the Niners building a report today.
They're just over it. It's not like they haven't offered you money.
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They like him, but they're just like, hey, it's just
too noisy. And I also think the Niners are making
the right choice to get Brock Purty a left tackle.
Rock Purty is not Josh Allen. He's not six five
and a half two fifty. Brock Pertty's a smaller guy.
He needs a left tackle. I don't want him getting
banged on. And I said this earlier. If you told
me I yuk is leaving, I could still argue they'll
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win the NFC West. If you tell me Trent Williams
is gone, they got issues because that's not a good
offensive line with Trent Williams. He's a wall. He's Tyrone
Smith in his in his prime. He is a wall
if he gets his hands on you. And with that,
Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports, a decade in the NFL, is
joining us in studio on a Friday. We got all
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sorts of stuff you have that. I can think two things, Mark.
I can be happy for a guy making more money,
but think, man if I was a receiver, i'd like
Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Sure of course. I just okay, here's I know. I
understand your perspective, and I love that we can come
on the show and give different perspectives. Yeah, as a
former player, yeah, I think it's important to understand maybe
what he's thinking a little bit and watching, you know,
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Christian McCaffrey get who's already the highest paid running back
in the league, get another three million dollars or whatever
on his contract restructure a couple months ago.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think the number that you mentioned, the twenty six
million dollars, was offered back in May. I'm not positive
that that offer is still on the table. So it's
not like play for twenty six like we potentially we're
going to agree upon back in May. I think, right now,
it's play for your fifth year option, which is fourteen
point one.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Much different then.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I mean, we're talking astronomical amounts money for a kid's game.
I understand, but it is a business, right. There is
the business side, there's the dollars and cents side, and
so you got to you gotta deal with that animal.
So I think if you're saying play for fourteen point one,
and you know, shut up and playball, stop whining. We
play for fourteen point one. Let's say he has the
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exact same numbers as last year, then he gets tagged,
then you make twenty three, twenty four to twenty five maybe,
but on a one year deal. Now you're just playing
one year deals and gambling on any injuries.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
You see what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So, in my opinion, if it was strictly money, if
money was the only factor, and Brandon Ayuk says, I
want the most dollars I can get, he would have
went to New England. He would have went to New
England and been the fifth non QB and NFL history
to sign one hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
If it was money, yeah, but I think there's more
to it. Than that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think I don't recall a time where he's complained
about not getting the ball. Let's face it, he plays
with an ensemble cast. Ensemble cast, you don't get as
many monologues in that movie, right Like you're gonna win
Best Picture, not best whatever role. There's too many supporting characters,
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there's too many main characters. They got everything. But bottom
line is think about it this way. This analogy really
helped me understand. If I walk into a Ferrari dealership
and the price of that Ferrari is two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars, and I say, okay, two fifty I
like that. However, I'm only going to drive this car
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three days a week. I'd like to pay two hundred
thousand for it. Dealers going to look at you like
you're crazy, right, Well, that they have a Ferrari, a Lamborghini,
they got a Porsche. They got them all in the
garage and they use them at their own will. The
thing they'll miss out on if you don't sign Brandon
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Ayuk is some of his production and I think he
helps make this offense go in a way that I
don't know if somebody else that they're going to trade
for is gonna do? The guy can beat man coverage.
He's really fast.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah. And when you play man coverage against the forty
nine ers, good luck right, good luck.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Also, if he forces you into his own coverage, Shanahan
will pick you apart, and brock Perty will pick you apart.
And here comes u SEC coming in. I mean, that's
a what do we call him a UFO? Remember before
the Super Bowl? Unidentified flying object?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Why?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Because that guy's all over the place, right, How were
we going to match up with them? What personnel are
we putting in? Are they running it down hill at us?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Forces you to play zone?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, I mean he he can force you into his
own or he will rip your heart out in Manda man,
I mean, look at his production last year. Throw up
the stats for last year he had. I want to say,
what seventy five receptions. Sixty eight of those receptions, sixty
eight were first downs or touchdowns. Seven receptions were not
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moving the chains or giving your team six points.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's something to think about.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Look at all the players he's look at the company
he's in, and then look at the amount of targets.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Look at his production.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
If he just give him the numbers that Tyreek Hill has,
give him one hundred and seventy one catches, he'd have
two thousand yards. So if you're telling me he's not
worth it, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Now. Was twenty six million dollars enough in May?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Maybe? Maybe not. I'm not a cap guy, I'm not
an agent. I don't, you know, go back and forth.
Of course, they got to save a little room for
Trent Williams. They got to save a little room for
Brock Purdy a lot, right, And so this is this
is I'm not saying it's like a no brainer for
the forty nine ers, but there's gotta be some common ground.
Maybe it's not thirty five like justin Jefferson a year,
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thirty five million year, but maybe it's you know, maybe
not twenty six, maybe it's twenty eight or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And obviously this is me outside looking in players perspective
as a former player. Not that I know every you know,
transaction that the forty nine ers have done, but I
do know. I don't recall any of the and you
can fact check this, and if I'm wrong, I totally
own it. But I don't think anybody else has played
out their fifth year option. These guys got re up
re upped right, Deebo Cmuel re upped before the fifth year.
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They didn't play their fifth year option and then just
become an unrestricted free agent. So if that's been the
mo of the organization, why wouldn't you try and get
this deal done, which it sounds like they did before camp.
You know, like, let's avoid the nonsense and the noise
that we're talking about right now. I mean, it's great
for us, we have something to talk about. But you
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understand where I'm coming from. I think I think there's
you're leaving a lot on the table both sides. Well,
if you don't get this thing done, I feel like
repair the relationship, man, and figure out that common ground
and move on, because I think this kid wants to win.
I don't remember him complaining about getting the ball. I
think he helps his offense enough to warrant paying him enough.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Now, is it going to be top in the league.
I don't think it's top in the league.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Ran Williams wasn't up or was twenty nine. Yeah, they'd
probably get the deal done obably. Yeah, Well, I'm sure
they're they're terrified.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, which one are we gonna go with Are we
gonna lose our left tackle or lose a receiver and
try and plug and play somebody else.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You gotta go left tackle, Like, I get that. I
totally get that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
As soon as something happens to Rock Perdy and then yeah,
come on, man, I mean, now, that's no disrespect to
Dobbs and Alan, who are battling and out right I
think as Brandon Allen is one of their back hups.
But we have that Saints at forty nine Ers game
coming up here, and so I'm interesting interesting times, and
it's tough. You know, when guys go through this stuff.
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Your players understand, the coaches understand, the GM understands, agents understand.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But you got to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And I hope they do because he looks good in
that forty nine in your uniform, and so does that offense.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So we've got all you do. The Bears game, the opener,
We've got this weekend. There's just a everybody's playing this weekend, yep.
So there's a lot of games to look at. You know,
I was talking about this the other day that the
Raiders get Gardner minshew. But they're not going to get
the same one because you're not getting Shane Steichen And
a lot of times you think, oh we acquire a guy.
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About thirty three percent of free agent's hit ex like,
it's just a different coach culture, centerach.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Culture, the way they talk to you, the way the
plays come in, the way the offense is structured around
you or.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Not, so it matters.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
One of the teams I picked as a dark horse
is Washington, and the reason I like it they replaced everybody,
so every single there is no like, hey, this is
my office, well, this is my region, the owner down,
it's all new. They're the one team I look at
and think, there's no like tribal.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
You know, it's not clique.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
There's no clique.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Nobody knows where to sit at the lunch table.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's right. Everybody's new to the stand. So there that's
my team that I'm like, and I got rid of
people that were really struggling. They didn't replace legends. Is
there a team to you when you look around this
that's my His is Minnesota, mine's Washington. Is there a
team you look at and you're like, there's just a
you know, last year Houston shop yeah, do you think,
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I mean these rookie quarterbacks. I mean, I mean, is
there just a team mark that you look at and
you think, God, they're getting disrespected, They get no love
at all.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I feel like Minnesota I might agree with J mack
a little bit. I just the big question mark is
the quarterback. Is Sam Darnold going to be You know,
I loved him. I just is he going to be
enough for that team that's built to win right now?
Is the big question? And if he's not, is JJ
McCarthy ready? Okay, Well that's a big, big if. Especially
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in an offense like that that runs through the quarterback,
it does right percent. I mean it's Kevin O'Connell. It's
everything is seen through the quarterbacks. What do you mean
when you say, well, I think the entire building revolves
around the quarterback. And I don't care if it's ticket sales,
promotional stuff, offensive scheme. Make sure we have a left tackle,
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make sure the quarterback's upright, make sure we have a
running game, make sure we have a defense that Brian
Flora's defense is legit and they're built to win. Now,
that offense around whoever's playing quarterback is built to win.
Now they just re up their tackle big money, maybe
the most money in the franchise history. Like that tells
me they're in it to win it right this second.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's what I feel like.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So if the biggest question mark is the quarterback, that's that's.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
A big one.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And you know, hopefully Sam proves that he's what if
he comes in and he's like rich Gannon by the way,
re emerges and second part of his career and just
how about lights the world.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
On fire, Baker and Gino.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And it's a change in regime, a change in philosophy,
and when you get in one of those systems, just
for the audience's perspective as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, here we go. This is nice.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is nice, you know, and it's hard when it's
more of a defensive regime. That's just the nature of
the game. I'm sure the defensive guys love it and
that's great, But as a quarterback specifically, it's nice to
have either a former quarterback or former offensive coordinator or
something as your head coach running the show.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So you get there's two or three games in a week.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's no disrespect to Rex Ryan by the way, please
don't take you that a way.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I love directs. Okay, I'm still loyal to Rexs.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All Right, you get one of the fascinating games. You
get This is one of the best one o'clock games ever.
I know, Caleb and the Bears at Calm seventy two
in Chicago and green Grass. You can smell it. How
much will you take? You'll watch every snap of the Bears?
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What are you looking for? Like? What what team? I'm
just a sports guy, But what do you look at
and go?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But tell tell my immediate.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thing is And it's only going to be a small
sample size, but I want to know who his hu
he's most comfortable throwing to.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, is it Rome? Is it Keenan? Allen?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Is a DJ Moore? Who becomes that like number one?
Or is it just complete John Stockton? Spread it out
to everybody?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
You know what I mean. I'm excited to look for that.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm excited to see if this defense comes back the
way they finish the year, if there's any kind of
setback or any kind of lull or what they're looking at.
They're also going against the team in Tennessee with a
completely different identity, right they were defense with.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Rabel power run the ball, Henry.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean it was King Henry's getting the ball fifty
times a game maybe, so you know, buckle up your
chintz strap, make sure you got two mouthpieces, and go
try and knock this guy down. In good Luck, it's
like tackling Brandon Jacobs back in the day with the Giants,
Like good Luck, dude, it's gonna be a twelve round
slug fest. So we're they're probably gonna win that. Well,
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this is a totally different team. Who's Will Levis. I've
seen him play out of his shoes and I've seen
him play pretty pedestrian.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So what's that guy going to do? What are they
doing at receiver?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know what's They've been trying to replace aj Brown,
Trailing Burkes, and I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
That's quite worked out yet. So who's gonna be the
number one? There?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But a ton of stuff, a ton of storylines going
into that game. I'm fired up about it. That's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Does preseason I know what they always say, it's vanilla schemes,
Sure does it, but it's snaps.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh, it's real, it's real football. It gets turned up
in the regular season, turned up again in the playoffs.
Here's my thing on playing guys versus not playing guys,
a guy like Andy Reid. That's an old school West
Coast mentality. Where in the old in the old four
season preseason games, first game you get a series, Second
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game you get about a half maybe, third game you
get into the third quarter, maybe one drive into the
third quarter, and then fourth game you sit out. That
was the old mentality. Now mcveigh's flipped that on its
head and it's been plenty successful. That could be their thing,
just like they have with the draft. And then you know,
acquiring player is not picks kind of thing. Okay, fine,
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that's just a different way of looking at it. Six
to one way, half a dozen. The other my thing
is because of this evolution of not playing players in
the preseason right, avoiding injury because it is real football
and if they get hurt in the preseason then you're
really sunk. So if you're ultra conservative, you keep those
guys out, which I understand, but I need to get
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them reps.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I need to get them live.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Reps where he has to get that dust off the
old processor in between his ears and grind and be
exhausted after a few series a few you know, drives,
whatever it is, I need that. So how do you
create that? You do the joint practice. Joint practice to me,
especially if you do it two or three days in
a row. Those team periods are just like live football.
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The only thing you're missing is the flow, the ebbs
and flows of the game, right, because you have these
twelve play racks, right, you have twelve plays in a row,
good on good ones vers once one offense versus one
defense of whatever other team. So when you get those,
you don't get the they're scripted place, so it doesn't
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happen necessarily in a drive format like we're doing all
third and three to seven's right now, and these twelve
plays in a row are third and three to seven,
so you're locked in on that portion, that small sample
size of third downs. Well, in a game, you have
to go from that to oh man, it was third
and seven we converted. But now we're on the goal line.
Boom switched to goal line mode. Okay, here we are,
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or maybe didn't make it to the goal line. Maybe
he made it to the red zone. Boom, red zone mode.
What are my rules for red zone? What is this
defense doing?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
To me? In the red zone. Oh man, we took
a sack. We're backed up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
What's our philosophy on second and twenty? What's our philosophy
on whatever?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So you're constantly switching between these different scenarios of the game.
You don't quite get that in practice because it's not
just a full game. In practice, they try and simulate it.
That's where you get some of that preseason work in.
But whatever you do, you're taking a risk, right because
it's not too hand touched in a preseason game, at
least in those joint practices. You know, for the most part,
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nobody's going to take off your quarterback's head, right unless
it's a cheap shot, and then there goes the fight
and then everybody gets fined.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So Nick Saban was on hard great quote and he said,
you know why you guys can't get the quarterbacks right
in this league is the killer expectations. You build them
up and then you guys all get impatient if by
like year two, week four, they're not a start. It's
like stuff's hard. Yeah, don't we don't do that in college.
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We didn't do that at Alabama. Wait your turn, Okay
to go to you with the jets. I mean, did
you feel the pressure of expectations?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Do?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And even when you try to block it out, it's
nearly impossible. You got this thing called a cell phone,
which is worse. Yeah, So, I mean, and it was
you know, Instagram hadn't even come out yet, and Twitter,
I think, like Ashton Kutcher Oprah Winfrey had just gotten
a million followers so to date myself, That's where I'm
at in life. But basically, these expectations make it difficult
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for a quarterback because you're trying to get the results
you want, but you want to make sure the process
is right and that this kid is developing into what
you want them to be. Now, winning games is great,
learning lessons while you win those games is even better.
But generally speaking, when you coach Saban was talking about
that clip that you're mentioning, that SoundBite he references Peyton
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Manning and the most interceptions thrown by a rookie. Well,
he completely flipped the script after that and the rest
is history. But you don't know if that kind of
terrible rookie season gives that guy shell shock. Not everybody's
as strong mentally as Peyton Manning. To just come back,
water off a duck's back and move on with your
life and go light up the league. So it's this
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balance of giving these guys weapons, trying to bring them along,
and the trickiest part is there's no rule book right
And it really flipped the year before me and Matthew
Stafford with Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan in two thousand
and eight. That draft was the year that both of
those guys went high. Both of those players played right away.
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Before that, the thinking was you wait your turn. Carson Palmer,
behind Kittna, you name it, and he was a number
one pick. Manning was like one of the early ones
to play right away. But it was a lot of
teams wanted you to wait your turn, watch a really
good player. Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith. Old school mentality,
old school regime.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That's why they do.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It that way. Now, there's benefits to that. There's also
benefits to playing right away. But after Matt Ryan made
the playoffs his rookie year, there was no way me
and Matt Stafford weren't starting in two thousand and nine,
it was like, oh they did it.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, well think about Caleb. Now everybody's looking at CJ. Stroud.
Well he did it.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He did it in Houston, and they suck compared to
you guys like hold on, they don't suck, and they're
actually really good. They were sneaky good. They had the team,
they had the coach, they had the motivator in Damico Ryans,
they had somebody to bring it all together. And all
those factors are important and they're hard enough to overcome.
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But expectation is one of the worst, and you have
to set realistic goals, realistic expectations. But when you add
all that talent, it only makes it tougher on a
guy like Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
What was the go to your first camp as a
rookie quarterback? Go, listen, it's tough. It's well, I mean
you we.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Played against one of the top five defenses in like
the decade prior to me. Andre No, no, no, Well
against Rex every day in practice, right.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So practice was brutal. Oh, practice was hold You were
played at USC with pros just.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Going like one for six in team pass. I was like, yes,
we completed one, Like really, oh my god, it was
so difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I never seen blitzes like this.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'd never seen simulated pressure where everybody looks like they're
coming from one side. Half of them drop out, and
here comes somebody literally running under my arm as I'm
trying to throw, and it's like Sack, you know, they're
screaming in your Earsack Bart Scott's screaming in my face
at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I mean it was Did you ever drive home? I know,
I know where you stayed on that golf course. Did
you ever drive home and think.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Is he like Voldemore? You can't say his name?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know.
I don't like to be polarizing with my guests. I'm
polarizing enough. So my takeaway is you were staying at
Trump's place whatever, So when you did you ever drive
home and think to yourself, I kind of miss southern California.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I could have come down until you started snowing, not
until it started snowing after I learned very quickly that
after Halloween you gotta put away your rainbow sandals, you
gotta wear actual shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And that one really broke my heart.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, but in all in all fairness, Rex Rex was
the first time coach as well, so he wanted his
defense to be right. Well, at the same time, you're
trying to develop a rookie quarterback and it's really hard
to do both. And that was before we had Brayln Edwards.
It was Jericho Coftree, Chauncey Stuckey and Dustin Keller, Thomas Jones,
Tony Richardson. Like, we had some players, but we were
(26:12):
searching for another wide receiver, somebody else to unlock some
of those things. Back to Brandon Ayuk unlock some of
those things to force a defensive coach to find out,
figure out, how am I going to play this guy?
And then you go up to the line of scrimmage
with clues and say they're going to play him that way.
I'm either going to him or I got other options. Okay,
you know what I mean. We didn't have quite that yet,
(26:33):
and Rex's team was loaded load. I mean, this defense
was nasty. Darrell Reeves was running routes for the receivers basically,
I mean he might have had he might have been
my top target in preseason. Like, it was ridiculous. The
guy was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, so when give me your first you know, Mahomes said,
Year three, the light went on. Was there a moment
for you? And it probably wasn't for a year yet
that thing slowed down.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
So not.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
This has nothing to do with like, I don't want
to be in a comparison with Mahomes. This is just
my second year when we had Brayln Edwards, Santonio Holmes,
Jerich O'cottrie, Dustin Keller, Sean Green. Uh did I say,
Ladanian Tomlinson, that's a legit group. Well, we didn't run
a ton of empty my rookie year. We come out
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in training camp and start running empty against our defense.
It made him look pretty plain vanilla because there's green, yellow,
red and empty green.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
They're rushing four. I got time.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Five is yellow at the stop light, right at the
signal yellow. Okay, be alert. It's man a man across
the board with five rushers on five pass protectors, my
o lineman six. I got a problem. I need to
bring somebody in or I need a quick answer. We
started playing the four to five to six game with
those guys and torched them in training camp. I mean
lit them up like a Christmas tree because we had players.
(27:52):
We had players that they needed to respect. Who's going
to run out with Ladanian Tomlinson. When he runs out
and empty and he's isolated on a linebacker, you gonna
send Dave Haret no offense to Dave Harris. I love you, Dave,
but you're gonna send Dave Harris to go.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Cover that gouty.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You're gonna go send Bart Scott to go cover La
Danian Thomlinson out in space.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Come on, man, let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Let's play that game till you guys figure it out, right,
and we're gonna keep going until you can stop us.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So we had a much more competitive training camp that
second year. We didn't win every snap by any means
because we still had an elite, but at least we
could compete.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Year one, it was like sleepless nights.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh dude, it was rough sleepless nights because you're so
dang sore and just trying to figure out what the
heck is going on. It's a blur, you know, It's
a blur.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That rookie year.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
There's so much going on, and I just felt a
lot more comfortable the second year. I wouldn't say the
light totally came on, but it was like, man, we
got options. I don't have to do everything here. Let's
let these guys eat. I just gotta facilitate.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And so no trips to corp Vallis that first year
okay too soon? Oh wait, time out. That was a
bad trip for you.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I couldn't win in the state of Oregon. I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
A lot of people golf Bandon Dunes can't win there,
Eugene Corvallis.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You're not the only one that struggled at Bandon Dunes
and Eugene.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, somebody, do you think? Just totally off topic.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But Trent Krim from The Independent, from Ted Lasso, am
I starting.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
To give it?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
So I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'll give your heads up. So my wife doesn't love sports,
doesn't really. And when you're on, she was in the
car and she goes, I like that guy you had
on today. Now she didn't see you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Oh and she.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, So she said, yeah, he uh, you know, he tells.
I could follow that. He tells good. But I didn't
want to tell you because you already got the looks.
You don't need any more.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh here we go, Here we go, Romeo.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
You don't need any more love. You get enough on
the show. I appreciate all right, Mark Sanchez, we gave
him the Bears game that you were going to have
more fun.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's gonna be awesome. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's a great opener. Cannot wait. Uh. I just discovered
JLab headphones. I'm hulked. Recent East coast trip. Unbelievable. They
are noise canceling headphones. Look for the blue box, Walmart, Target,
Best Buy airports across the country, Jylab, Mark Sanchez, you
crushed it.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
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Speaker 1 (30:23):
So this was a borderline comical. Yesterday, the NCUBA opposed
a four year show cause on Jim Harbaugh. If he
comes back to the NCUBLA the coach football in the
next four years, he's getting a spanking. He's not coming back.
Remember it was about a year ago. Two years ago
(30:45):
we kept hearing about the twelve team playoff was years away.
They're already talking about a fourteen team playoff and we
haven't gotten to the twelve yet. Do you know why
that is? Because of Fox and ESPN and NBC. The
grownups now run the sport, not the bureaucrats. College football
(31:06):
is like a great game of pickup basketball, and the
NCUBA is the one guy who keeps calling tiki tac
fouls and killing the vibe. The SEC this week said
we're going to now mandate injury reports like pro football.
The NCAA doesn't even lead with that. Headsets Big ten
SEC they've decided to use them. Why television networks, NCUBA,
(31:32):
It's too much work. I don't know more red tape needed.
College football going forward is going to be led by
TV networks for years, this sport's had a messed up schedule,
won't use available technology. They're just killing a great sport,
a remarkable vibe. Within two years, the top football programs
(31:56):
in college will have general managers running the program, giving
coaches more time to develop young high school and college players.
It will look more like pro football. The Big Ten
will be the AFC, the SEC will be the NFC,
and there'll be a couple of teams we allow to
come into the playoffs, but they won't do much. That's
(32:18):
because the TV network's tired for years of a sport
making eight billion dollars and not hiring a CEO. Sometimes
you need grownups and that's what college football needs. So
Jim Harball, if he comes back to college football, he'll
get a spanking. He'll be sent to the corner. Let
(32:39):
me tell you what he's going to be doing over
the next four years playing in January. It's so far
he's not coming back to college football, and college football
is exploding with the nil with a transfer portal, no
more or not as many boring bowl games because TV
Networks let us do it. You guys don't know what
(33:02):
you're doing. By the way, Michigan, if they face real
stiff violations, we'll sick attorneys on the NCUBLEA fight it
off for years, and the NC DOUBLEA will eventually wave
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
Very exciting stuff going on. I can't wait for this
weekend air show in Chicago. But beyond that, we got
NFL games this weekend and a lot of these a
lot of these star quarterbacks are playing. We're getting We're
getting right around mid August. Right now, in July is
dead month. Not that by the way. Wemby, Oh yeah,
against the Americans. Well, assuming the Americans win, we'll get
(34:33):
to it. Chorley Jmack with the News.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Turns this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So, as Cowherd just alluded to, France has taken down
favored Germany and France will meet the winner of USA
Serbia in the gold medal match.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
USA up next against Serbia. Here now, Colin, I'm just
I'm on record, this is a very dangerous spot. Everybody thinks,
oh USA beat them by the I bet.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Sir to cover and Lebron to have a good game
on my DraftKings back.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
So we talked about the spread. I think Wednesday morning
it was seventeen and a half. It's now fourteen and
a half.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, no, the money's pouring in on service now Serbia
is the side. Doesn't mean they'll win, but that's the
side again.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
One of the crazy stats was with Jokic on the floor,
the teams were even plus minus even, but Yokic off
it was like minus whatever win anyway. Steve Kerr does
not want his team to get too complacent, said the
US can't get lulled to sleep because they've beaten him twice.
I'm just I'm very nervous about this game for the US.
I'm optimistic, like you said, that they'll win, but this
will not be Why.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
My guess is Kerr tightens up the rotation. So don't
think aunt Edwards won't play as many minutes. Lebron will
play more minutes. Serbia is gonna play its butt off.
So my take is Lebron will have a nice, nice game.
They'll tighten up the rotation considerably. You're not gonna see
the bench scoring for Team USA. And I also I
(35:58):
think it's just a very very close game. I'll take
to win by about eight seven.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you this.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You know he's my favorite player, Steph Curry has struggled, okay,
and this is a physical, physical Serbia team. If Curry's
like one of nine, is there a world where he's like, listen,
I'm sorry, I'm rolling with Derek White or Drew Holiday
over Curry in the fourth quarter because they got are
guys struggling, and you know they're gonna target him defensively.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Well, I think Kurr's gonna go with the winning hands.
I think whoever's playing well gets to play. It's hard, though,
you're asking to ask international competition when you're facing Yokich
gonna be him a third time? Soundly? Good luck? Now,
I think it's gonna be the game of the tournament.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I'm a little nervous for the US. I do think
we get the job done. This is a tough match.
This ain't the dream team facing guys who want autographs
at halftime. Okay, this is like a real basketball team.
I know it's gonna be a great game coming up
soon here later today. Next up the Brandon Nayuk sweepstakes.
We're trying to monitor it by the minute.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Allegedly, the Niners are asked looking for two first round
picks from Pittsburgh. The Steelers were apparently the front runner.
Nothing has been agreed upon yet, although a bunch of
radio guys in Pittsburgh seem to think it's done. Two
first round picks seems a little bit steep.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And you've got to make him a top five I
would do a first round pick, but I don't want
two plus.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I have to pay him.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Where's the win for me?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
That's way too I just don't get why this The
Niners would want two first round pick?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
What are you doing with two picks?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
If you're the Niners, what would you demand?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Of all the deals so far that I've heard, Amari
Cooper and whatever picks is the best deal that to
me helps you now because you want to win now
your favorite in every game this season, but to go
back to the super Bowl, you cannot just remove you.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He's not to beat you down the field guy. He's more.
He's a good receiver, but he's not an over the
top guy.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
I don't think you're losing that much if you go
from Ayuk Took.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think's a much better blocker.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
But by all accounts, Ayuk only wants Pittsburgh. He's got
Billy Helbett. Apparently Washington was a team he wanted because
of Jaden Daniels connection, and then now he's kind of
off Washington. I guess they they're not willing to do
whatever deal the Niners wanted, but two first.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Round picks come.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
There's no way I'm moving two first round picks for
a receiver, I don't think. And I have to pay him. Yeah,
I need those picks because I got to hit on
some picks, because I'm paying a receiver twenty nine million.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Dollars the Picksbord's not paying anyone else on offense.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Well, but they're they're paying all sorts of people on defense.
That's Pittsburgh. How's that working out for? It's not They shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, all right, we got the final story here is
several quarterbacks under a ton of pressure to perform in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Four some competitions for a starting spot.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Bleacher Report broke down the quarterbacks most likely to lose
their starting jobs this season. At the top of the list,
no surprise, Daniel Jones, who has Drew Lock breathing down
his neck. Then there's the Aid and O'Connell Gardner minshew
poo pooh platter in Vegas. You got Russell Wilson justin fields,
which is.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Actual compet Sam Donald four. That's dumb, that's so disrespectful.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah, Jacoby Brissett five.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
They have Sam Donald, bubb Will Levis.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, that's it's just not you know, it's dumb.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
It's just not intelligent like that. Sam Donald's not gonna
lose his job. And Deshaun Watson at six, they have
to play him. Come on, I don't know, they're trapped.
That's the only bad contract in the league. I mean,
Russell Wilson's if you hit on five draft picks and
bow knicks heads, you're gonna forget about that by November. Yeah, Like,
we like Gino Smith, but he should be on this
list over Deshaun Watson. Like and Gino Smith probably not
(39:37):
gonna lose his job. But if you're doing a list.
How is Sam Donald four? Deshaun Watson six. I'm not
really feeling that.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I buy the first three.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
And well, by the way, where's the Denver Broncos situation.
They're just not on the list.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Well, bow Knicks is gonna start and not lose his job.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
You mean third on the depth chart, phone Nicks, you
can't buy that. You're buying that he's third. I mean
they so is JJ McCarthy. But they're those young guys
with the install they're not ready yet. The JJ McCarthy
will be a solid backup by the second week in September.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I think you're sleeping on Jared Sindham. Remember two years
ago he had a I think Jared's that it makes
me sleep. Come on, all right, Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
The herd Line News Lisa Leslie last hour, Our women
crushed and continue to crush at the Olympics. Jordan Palmer
stops by as well. By the way, Ed, this was
good news. Did you hear Cliff Kingsbury talking about Jayden Daniels,
who's a great athlete and you can get away with
just being a great athlete. For a couple of years.
But if you want to grow as a quarterback, you
(40:48):
got to study. Here is cliff On, his rookie quarterback.
This team I think makes the playoffs. Here's Kingsbury.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
I love the process and the love that approaches each day.
Harry handles the good all the installs. He must study
it like crazy at night because every morning when we
get here and he walks through with us, he nails it.
And so you just appreciate the work he's putting in.
He's paying the cost to try and get where he
wants to get, and that's all you can ask for
a young player.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, listen, I mean, you can get away with athleticism
for a while, but Cam Newton was shot at thirty
and totally unathletic. Philip Rivers in his last year at
thirty nine, won eleven games for the Colts, forty one
hundred yards and a ninety seven passer rating and couldn't
avoid that chair if it was chasing him because he
(41:36):
was good pre snap. Philip Rivers once told me on
the air, I like the process better than the actual games.
You can get away running around for a while, Kyler Murray,
but at some point you got to get off those
video games. You can audible your way out of sacks
and pressures. And I mean Johnny Mandel is a great example.
And Johnny and Michael Vick would both admit it. They
(41:57):
didn't put the work in the first couple of years.
They just didn't put working. And they're both excellent athletes.
The fact that this kid is such a great athlete.
And Cliff Kitingsbury, I'm reading the entire quote here. He's like,
we put an install in the next day, he nails it.
I know he's going back to his place and watching
film all night. That almost guarantees success if you have
the athleticism to beat people with your feet and you're
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a workaholic in the film room. I'm telling you last year,
the number two quarterback picked was the one that popped
Jade and Daniels. Washington, you got a fantasy team getting
down to your last pick. I wanna roll the dice.
J Mack Jade Daniels, No thanks, pass our three next
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, right, here we go, Mark Sanchez in a couple
of minutes in our studio live in Los Angeles. It's
The Herd on the Thursday. Wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. You know, I was thinking
about this. The Niners just picked up sort of bounce
around the league speed guy, straight down the field runner
Robbie Anderson, who can really run. I think with Sam
(00:49):
Darnold and the Jets one neat like one of his
go to guys.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He had a great season a Caseets.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, he's a straight runner down the field. Does that
mean they're getting close to a Brandon I Yout deal
is that they're losing Brandon eyuke down the field, so
they're gonna bring in Robbie anders So he could get
cut in four weeks, but they're gonna see it. We
don't need somebody that's wildly productive, but can we bring
a guy that can just run straight down the field,
because that tells me the Brandon Ayyuke deal is probably
(01:14):
getting close to being finalized. You going to say the Steelers,
and that's fine, But what I'm telling you is you
go from Kyle Shanahan's ability to scheme you open on
a loaded offensive roster where the Niners squeeze every ounce
out of their talent, to a defensive culture that can't
get their offensive line right and quarterbacks that right now
(01:37):
this morning aren't as good as Brock pretty And I'm
not the biggest Rock Purtty fan, but Brock pretty right
now runs that offense better than anybody's running the Pittsburgh offense.
I get a better offensive line, I get more continuity.
So I mean again, San Francisco does a much better
job to scheme open receivers. That's why when you watch
George Kittle two or three times a game, it's not
(01:57):
like he's a burner. He'll be wide open. It's why
Cooper Cup to the Rams is always wide open. That's
what really good offensive coaches do. You don't see that
with the Steelers. So I think he'll make the Steelers
because they're not paying anything for their quarterback in Pittsburgh,
so that if the Steelers do land Ayuk, he could
be productive. But they also going to get the ball
(02:18):
to Pickens. They also have a new offensive coordinator, so
it's he's and he's moving for a few million bucks
a year. It's fine. But I just think there are
certain positions that are dependent on other positions, and I
think if I was a wide receiver, I would love
to line up opposite of Deebo Samuel and then you
(02:39):
can't cheat in the box because of George Kittle, and
then McCaffrey can catch the ball out of the backfield,
and then you have a coach scheming you up. So
I think it's a great place to be a wide receiver.
That's why Kittle's a fifth rounder, Jennings a sixth rounder,
McCaffrey's better than ever. Well, Kyle Shanahan's a big part
of that. So I'm if I Yuke wants to go
to a defensive culture, so they can't get the old
(03:01):
line right. They've run through offensive coordinators. It's a tougher conference,
a tougher division. It's a choice and you'll make a
few million dollars, but you're not You're gonna win more
in San Francisco, and you're gonna make a lot of
money in San Francisco. You're just gonna make more. So
I'm not saying money doesn't matter. But as the season
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gets extended, do you want to be invisible in January?
Pittsburgh will be San Francisco won't. And you can make
so much money now on Instagram. NFL guys make money
on shoe deals. There's so many endorsements. It was so interesting.
Years ago. I heard a story. This was like six
years ago. Dak was like in his third year and
(03:43):
somebody showed me a sheet of all his opportunities with endorsements.
I couldn't believe it. Brady and Mahomes I get. I'm like,
that's not when in playoff games? What there is value
to be an on TV, to be in part of
a big brand, and Niners win a lot of football games.
Niners matter in the NFC in January and February, that's
(04:06):
when I mean, people love watching the NFL. That's when
they really wantch So it's a choice. But I just
think if I'm a wide receiver I'm like, I want
an offensive coach. I want a highly effective quarterback. Pittsburgh
doesn't even know who their quarterback is. They don't know
who it is. You got to learn a new playbook.
(04:26):
It's a choice. But Robbie Anderson does feel like they
may be sealing up this deal. It's been rumored a
lot of smart NFL reporters. I got singed on this.
This thing's been back and forth. Apparently there's a lot
of acrimony right now in the Niners building a report today.
They're just over it. It's not like they haven't offered you money.
(04:49):
They like him, but they're just like, hey, it's just
too noisy. And I also think the Niners are making
the right choice to get Brock Purty a left tackle.
Rock Purty is not Josh Allen. He's not six five
and a half two fifty. Brock Pertty's a smaller guy.
He needs a left tackle. I don't want him getting
banged on. And I said this earlier. If you told
me I yuk is leaving, I could still argue they'll
(05:10):
win the NFC West. If you tell me Trent Williams
is gone, they got issues because that's not a good
offensive line with Trent Williams. He's a wall. He's Tyrone
Smith in his in his prime. He is a wall
if he gets his hands on you. And with that,
Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports, a decade in the NFL, is
joining us in studio on a Friday. We got all
(05:33):
sorts of stuff you have that. I can think two things, Mark.
I can be happy for a guy making more money,
but think, man if I was a receiver, i'd like
Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Sure of course. I just okay, here's I know. I
understand your perspective, and I love that we can come
on the show and give different perspectives. Yeah, as a
former player, yeah, I think it's important to understand maybe
what he's thinking a little bit and watching, you know,
(06:04):
Christian McCaffrey get who's already the highest paid running back
in the league, get another three million dollars or whatever
on his contract restructure a couple months ago.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think the number that you mentioned, the twenty six
million dollars, was offered back in May. I'm not positive
that that offer is still on the table. So it's
not like play for twenty six like we potentially we're
going to agree upon back in May. I think, right now,
it's play for your fifth year option, which is fourteen
point one.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Much different then.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I mean, we're talking astronomical amounts money for a kid's game.
I understand, but it is a business, right. There is
the business side, there's the dollars and cents side, and
so you got to you gotta deal with that animal.
So I think if you're saying play for fourteen point one,
and you know, shut up and playball, stop whining. We
play for fourteen point one. Let's say he has the
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exact same numbers as last year, then he gets tagged,
then you make twenty three, twenty four to twenty five maybe,
but on a one year deal. Now you're just playing
one year deals and gambling on any injuries.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
You see what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So, in my opinion, if it was strictly money, if
money was the only factor, and Brandon Ayuk says, I
want the most dollars I can get, he would have
went to New England. He would have went to New
England and been the fifth non QB and NFL history
to sign one hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
If it was money, yeah, but I think there's more
to it. Than that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think I don't recall a time where he's complained
about not getting the ball. Let's face it, he plays
with an ensemble cast. Ensemble cast, you don't get as
many monologues in that movie, right Like you're gonna win
Best Picture, not best whatever role. There's too many supporting characters,
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there's too many main characters. They got everything. But bottom
line is think about it this way. This analogy really
helped me understand. If I walk into a Ferrari dealership
and the price of that Ferrari is two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars, and I say, okay, two fifty I
like that. However, I'm only going to drive this car
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three days a week. I'd like to pay two hundred
thousand for it. Dealers going to look at you like
you're crazy, right, Well, that they have a Ferrari, a Lamborghini,
they got a Porsche. They got them all in the
garage and they use them at their own will. The
thing they'll miss out on if you don't sign Brandon
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Ayuk is some of his production and I think he
helps make this offense go in a way that I
don't know if somebody else that they're going to trade
for is gonna do? The guy can beat man coverage.
He's really fast.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah. And when you play man coverage against the forty
nine ers, good luck right, good luck.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Also, if he forces you into his own coverage, Shanahan
will pick you apart, and brock Perty will pick you apart.
And here comes u SEC coming in. I mean, that's
a what do we call him a UFO? Remember before
the Super Bowl? Unidentified flying object?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Why?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Because that guy's all over the place, right, How were
we going to match up with them? What personnel are
we putting in? Are they running it down hill at us?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Forces you to play zone?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, I mean he he can force you into his
own or he will rip your heart out in Manda man,
I mean, look at his production last year. Throw up
the stats for last year he had. I want to say,
what seventy five receptions. Sixty eight of those receptions, sixty
eight were first downs or touchdowns. Seven receptions were not
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moving the chains or giving your team six points.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's something to think about.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Look at all the players he's look at the company
he's in, and then look at the amount of targets.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Look at his production.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
If he just give him the numbers that Tyreek Hill has,
give him one hundred and seventy one catches, he'd have
two thousand yards. So if you're telling me he's not
worth it, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Now. Was twenty six million dollars enough in May?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Maybe? Maybe not. I'm not a cap guy, I'm not
an agent. I don't, you know, go back and forth.
Of course, they got to save a little room for
Trent Williams. They got to save a little room for
Brock Purdy a lot, right, And so this is this
is I'm not saying it's like a no brainer for
the forty nine ers, but there's gotta be some common ground.
Maybe it's not thirty five like justin Jefferson a year,
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thirty five million year, but maybe it's you know, maybe
not twenty six, maybe it's twenty eight or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And obviously this is me outside looking in players perspective
as a former player. Not that I know every you know,
transaction that the forty nine ers have done, but I
do know. I don't recall any of the and you
can fact check this, and if I'm wrong, I totally
own it. But I don't think anybody else has played
out their fifth year option. These guys got re up
re upped right, Deebo Cmuel re upped before the fifth year.
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They didn't play their fifth year option and then just
become an unrestricted free agent. So if that's been the
mo of the organization, why wouldn't you try and get
this deal done, which it sounds like they did before camp.
You know, like, let's avoid the nonsense and the noise
that we're talking about right now. I mean, it's great
for us, we have something to talk about. But you
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understand where I'm coming from. I think I think there's
you're leaving a lot on the table both sides. Well,
if you don't get this thing done, I feel like
repair the relationship, man, and figure out that common ground
and move on, because I think this kid wants to win.
I don't remember him complaining about getting the ball. I
think he helps his offense enough to warrant paying him enough.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Now, is it going to be top in the league.
I don't think it's top in the league.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Ran Williams wasn't up or was twenty nine. Yeah, they'd
probably get the deal done obably. Yeah, Well, I'm sure
they're they're terrified.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, which one are we gonna go with Are we
gonna lose our left tackle or lose a receiver and
try and plug and play somebody else.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You gotta go left tackle, Like, I get that. I
totally get that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
As soon as something happens to Rock Perdy and then yeah,
come on, man, I mean, now, that's no disrespect to
Dobbs and Alan, who are battling and out right I
think as Brandon Allen is one of their back hups.
But we have that Saints at forty nine Ers game
coming up here, and so I'm interesting interesting times, and
it's tough. You know, when guys go through this stuff.
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Your players understand, the coaches understand, the GM understands, agents understand.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But you got to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And I hope they do because he looks good in
that forty nine in your uniform, and so does that offense.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So we've got all you do. The Bears game, the opener,
We've got this weekend. There's just a everybody's playing this weekend, yep.
So there's a lot of games to look at. You know,
I was talking about this the other day that the
Raiders get Gardner minshew. But they're not going to get
the same one because you're not getting Shane Steichen And
a lot of times you think, oh we acquire a guy.
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About thirty three percent of free agent's hit ex like,
it's just a different coach culture, centerach.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Culture, the way they talk to you, the way the
plays come in, the way the offense is structured around
you or.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Not, so it matters.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
One of the teams I picked as a dark horse
is Washington, and the reason I like it they replaced everybody,
so every single there is no like, hey, this is
my office, well, this is my region, the owner down,
it's all new. They're the one team I look at
and think, there's no like tribal.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
You know, it's not clique.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
There's no clique.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Nobody knows where to sit at the lunch table.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's right. Everybody's new to the stand. So there that's
my team that I'm like, and I got rid of
people that were really struggling. They didn't replace legends. Is
there a team to you when you look around this
that's my His is Minnesota, mine's Washington. Is there a
team you look at and you're like, there's just a
you know, last year Houston shop yeah, do you think,
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I mean these rookie quarterbacks. I mean, I mean, is
there just a team mark that you look at and
you think, God, they're getting disrespected, They get no love
at all.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I feel like Minnesota I might agree with J mack
a little bit. I just the big question mark is
the quarterback. Is Sam Darnold going to be You know,
I loved him. I just is he going to be
enough for that team that's built to win right now?
Is the big question? And if he's not, is JJ
McCarthy ready? Okay, Well that's a big, big if. Especially
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in an offense like that that runs through the quarterback,
it does right percent. I mean it's Kevin O'Connell. It's
everything is seen through the quarterbacks. What do you mean
when you say, well, I think the entire building revolves
around the quarterback. And I don't care if it's ticket sales,
promotional stuff, offensive scheme. Make sure we have a left tackle,
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make sure the quarterback's upright, make sure we have a
running game, make sure we have a defense that Brian
Flora's defense is legit and they're built to win. Now,
that offense around whoever's playing quarterback is built to win.
Now they just re up their tackle big money, maybe
the most money in the franchise history. Like that tells
me they're in it to win it right this second.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's what I feel like.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So if the biggest question mark is the quarterback, that's that's.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
A big one.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And you know, hopefully Sam proves that he's what if
he comes in and he's like rich Gannon by the way,
re emerges and second part of his career and just
how about lights the world.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
On fire, Baker and Gino.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And it's a change in regime, a change in philosophy,
and when you get in one of those systems, just
for the audience's perspective as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, here we go. This is nice.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is nice, you know, and it's hard when it's
more of a defensive regime. That's just the nature of
the game. I'm sure the defensive guys love it and
that's great, But as a quarterback specifically, it's nice to
have either a former quarterback or former offensive coordinator or
something as your head coach running the show.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So you get there's two or three games in a week.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's no disrespect to Rex Ryan by the way, please
don't take you that a way.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I love directs. Okay, I'm still loyal to Rexs.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
All Right, you get one of the fascinating games. You
get This is one of the best one o'clock games ever.
I know, Caleb and the Bears at Calm seventy two
in Chicago and green Grass. You can smell it. How
much will you take? You'll watch every snap of the Bears?
(16:38):
What are you looking for? Like? What what team? I'm
just a sports guy, But what do you look at
and go?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But tell tell my immediate.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thing is And it's only going to be a small
sample size, but I want to know who his hu
he's most comfortable throwing to.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, is it Rome? Is it Keenan? Allen?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Is a DJ Moore? Who becomes that like number one?
Or is it just complete John Stockton? Spread it out
to everybody?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
You know what I mean. I'm excited to look for that.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm excited to see if this defense comes back the
way they finish the year, if there's any kind of
setback or any kind of lull or what they're looking at.
They're also going against the team in Tennessee with a
completely different identity, right they were defense with.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Rabel power run the ball, Henry.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean it was King Henry's getting the ball fifty
times a game maybe, so you know, buckle up your
chintz strap, make sure you got two mouthpieces, and go
try and knock this guy down. In good Luck, it's
like tackling Brandon Jacobs back in the day with the Giants,
Like good Luck, dude, it's gonna be a twelve round
slug fest. So we're they're probably gonna win that. Well,
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this is a totally different team. Who's Will Levis. I've
seen him play out of his shoes and I've seen
him play pretty pedestrian.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So what's that guy going to do? What are they
doing at receiver?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know what's They've been trying to replace aj Brown,
Trailing Burkes, and I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
That's quite worked out yet. So who's gonna be the
number one? There?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But a ton of stuff, a ton of storylines going
into that game. I'm fired up about it. That's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Does preseason I know what they always say, it's vanilla schemes,
Sure does it, but it's snaps.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh, it's real, it's real football. It gets turned up
in the regular season, turned up again in the playoffs.
Here's my thing on playing guys versus not playing guys,
a guy like Andy Reid. That's an old school West
Coast mentality. Where in the old in the old four
season preseason games, first game you get a series, Second
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game you get about a half maybe, third game you
get into the third quarter, maybe one drive into the
third quarter, and then fourth game you sit out. That
was the old mentality. Now mcveigh's flipped that on its
head and it's been plenty successful. That could be their thing,
just like they have with the draft. And then you know,
acquiring player is not picks kind of thing. Okay, fine,
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that's just a different way of looking at it. Six
to one way, half a dozen. The other my thing
is because of this evolution of not playing players in
the preseason right, avoiding injury because it is real football
and if they get hurt in the preseason then you're
really sunk. So if you're ultra conservative, you keep those
guys out, which I understand, but I need to get
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them reps.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I need to get them live.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Reps where he has to get that dust off the
old processor in between his ears and grind and be
exhausted after a few series a few you know, drives,
whatever it is, I need that. So how do you
create that? You do the joint practice. Joint practice to me,
especially if you do it two or three days in
a row. Those team periods are just like live football.
(19:49):
The only thing you're missing is the flow, the ebbs
and flows of the game, right, because you have these
twelve play racks, right, you have twelve plays in a row,
good on good ones vers once one offense versus one
defense of whatever other team. So when you get those,
you don't get the they're scripted place, so it doesn't
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happen necessarily in a drive format like we're doing all
third and three to seven's right now, and these twelve
plays in a row are third and three to seven,
so you're locked in on that portion, that small sample
size of third downs. Well, in a game, you have
to go from that to oh man, it was third
and seven we converted. But now we're on the goal line.
Boom switched to goal line mode. Okay, here we are,
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or maybe didn't make it to the goal line. Maybe
he made it to the red zone. Boom, red zone mode.
What are my rules for red zone? What is this
defense doing?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
To me? In the red zone. Oh man, we took
a sack. We're backed up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
What's our philosophy on second and twenty? What's our philosophy
on whatever?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So you're constantly switching between these different scenarios of the game.
You don't quite get that in practice because it's not
just a full game. In practice, they try and simulate it.
That's where you get some of that preseason work in.
But whatever you do, you're taking a risk, right because
it's not too hand touched in a preseason game, at
least in those joint practices. You know, for the most part,
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nobody's going to take off your quarterback's head, right unless
it's a cheap shot, and then there goes the fight
and then everybody gets fined.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So Nick Saban was on hard great quote and he said,
you know why you guys can't get the quarterbacks right
in this league is the killer expectations. You build them
up and then you guys all get impatient if by
like year two, week four, they're not a start. It's
like stuff's hard. Yeah, don't we don't do that in college.
(21:38):
We didn't do that at Alabama. Wait your turn, Okay
to go to you with the jets. I mean, did
you feel the pressure of expectations?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Do?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And even when you try to block it out, it's
nearly impossible. You got this thing called a cell phone,
which is worse. Yeah, So, I mean, and it was
you know, Instagram hadn't even come out yet, and Twitter,
I think, like Ashton Kutcher Oprah Winfrey had just gotten
a million followers so to date myself, That's where I'm
at in life. But basically, these expectations make it difficult
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for a quarterback because you're trying to get the results
you want, but you want to make sure the process
is right and that this kid is developing into what
you want them to be. Now, winning games is great,
learning lessons while you win those games is even better.
But generally speaking, when you coach Saban was talking about
that clip that you're mentioning, that SoundBite he references Peyton
(22:32):
Manning and the most interceptions thrown by a rookie. Well,
he completely flipped the script after that and the rest
is history. But you don't know if that kind of
terrible rookie season gives that guy shell shock. Not everybody's
as strong mentally as Peyton Manning. To just come back,
water off a duck's back and move on with your
life and go light up the league. So it's this
(22:54):
balance of giving these guys weapons, trying to bring them along,
and the trickiest part is there's no rule book right
And it really flipped the year before me and Matthew
Stafford with Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan in two thousand
and eight. That draft was the year that both of
those guys went high. Both of those players played right away.
(23:16):
Before that, the thinking was you wait your turn. Carson Palmer,
behind Kittna, you name it, and he was a number
one pick. Manning was like one of the early ones
to play right away. But it was a lot of
teams wanted you to wait your turn, watch a really
good player. Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith. Old school mentality,
old school regime.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That's why they do.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It that way. Now, there's benefits to that. There's also
benefits to playing right away. But after Matt Ryan made
the playoffs his rookie year, there was no way me
and Matt Stafford weren't starting in two thousand and nine,
it was like, oh they did it.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, well think about Caleb. Now everybody's looking at CJ. Stroud.
Well he did it.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He did it in Houston, and they suck compared to
you guys like hold on, they don't suck, and they're
actually really good. They were sneaky good. They had the team,
they had the coach, they had the motivator in Damico Ryans,
they had somebody to bring it all together. And all
those factors are important and they're hard enough to overcome.
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But expectation is one of the worst, and you have
to set realistic goals, realistic expectations. But when you add
all that talent, it only makes it tougher on a
guy like Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
What was the go to your first camp as a
rookie quarterback? Go, listen, it's tough. It's well, I mean
you we.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Played against one of the top five defenses in like
the decade prior to me. Andre No, no, no, Well
against Rex every day in practice, right.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So practice was brutal. Oh, practice was hold You were
played at USC with pros just.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Going like one for six in team pass. I was like, yes,
we completed one, Like really, oh my god, it was
so difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I never seen blitzes like this.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'd never seen simulated pressure where everybody looks like they're
coming from one side. Half of them drop out, and
here comes somebody literally running under my arm as I'm
trying to throw, and it's like Sack, you know, they're
screaming in your Earsack Bart Scott's screaming in my face
at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I mean it was Did you ever drive home? I know,
I know where you stayed on that golf course. Did
you ever drive home and think.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Is he like Voldemore? You can't say his name?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know.
I don't like to be polarizing with my guests. I'm
polarizing enough. So my takeaway is you were staying at
Trump's place whatever, So when you did you ever drive
home and think to yourself, I kind of miss southern California.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I could have come down until you started snowing, not
until it started snowing after I learned very quickly that
after Halloween you gotta put away your rainbow sandals, you
gotta wear actual shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And that one really broke my heart.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, but in all in all fairness, Rex Rex was
the first time coach as well, so he wanted his
defense to be right. Well, at the same time, you're
trying to develop a rookie quarterback and it's really hard
to do both. And that was before we had Brayln Edwards.
It was Jericho Coftree, Chauncey Stuckey and Dustin Keller, Thomas Jones,
Tony Richardson. Like, we had some players, but we were
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searching for another wide receiver, somebody else to unlock some
of those things. Back to Brandon Ayuk unlock some of
those things to force a defensive coach to find out,
figure out, how am I going to play this guy?
And then you go up to the line of scrimmage
with clues and say they're going to play him that way.
I'm either going to him or I got other options. Okay,
you know what I mean. We didn't have quite that yet,
(26:33):
and Rex's team was loaded load. I mean, this defense
was nasty. Darrell Reeves was running routes for the receivers basically,
I mean he might have had he might have been
my top target in preseason. Like, it was ridiculous. The
guy was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, so when give me your first you know, Mahomes said,
Year three, the light went on. Was there a moment
for you? And it probably wasn't for a year yet
that thing slowed down.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
So not.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
This has nothing to do with like, I don't want
to be in a comparison with Mahomes. This is just
my second year when we had Brayln Edwards, Santonio Holmes,
Jerich O'cottrie, Dustin Keller, Sean Green. Uh did I say,
Ladanian Tomlinson, that's a legit group. Well, we didn't run
a ton of empty my rookie year. We come out
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in training camp and start running empty against our defense.
It made him look pretty plain vanilla because there's green, yellow,
red and empty green.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
They're rushing four. I got time.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Five is yellow at the stop light, right at the
signal yellow. Okay, be alert. It's man a man across
the board with five rushers on five pass protectors, my
o lineman six. I got a problem. I need to
bring somebody in or I need a quick answer. We
started playing the four to five to six game with
those guys and torched them in training camp. I mean
lit them up like a Christmas tree because we had players.
(27:52):
We had players that they needed to respect. Who's going
to run out with Ladanian Tomlinson. When he runs out
and empty and he's isolated on a linebacker, you gonna
send Dave Haret no offense to Dave Harris. I love you, Dave,
but you're gonna send Dave Harris to go.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Cover that gouty.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You're gonna go send Bart Scott to go cover La
Danian Thomlinson out in space.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Come on, man, let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Let's play that game till you guys figure it out, right,
and we're gonna keep going until you can stop us.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So we had a much more competitive training camp that
second year. We didn't win every snap by any means
because we still had an elite, but at least we
could compete.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Year one, it was like sleepless nights.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh dude, it was rough sleepless nights because you're so
dang sore and just trying to figure out what the
heck is going on. It's a blur, you know, It's
a blur.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That rookie year.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
There's so much going on, and I just felt a
lot more comfortable the second year. I wouldn't say the
light totally came on, but it was like, man, we
got options. I don't have to do everything here. Let's
let these guys eat. I just gotta facilitate.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And so no trips to corp Vallis that first year
okay too soon? Oh wait, time out. That was a
bad trip for you.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I couldn't win in the state of Oregon. I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
A lot of people golf Bandon Dunes can't win there,
Eugene Corvallis.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You're not the only one that struggled at Bandon Dunes
and Eugene.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, somebody, do you think? Just totally off topic.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But Trent Krim from The Independent, from Ted Lasso, am
I starting.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
To give it?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
So I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'll give your heads up. So my wife doesn't love sports,
doesn't really. And when you're on, she was in the
car and she goes, I like that guy you had
on today. Now she didn't see you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Oh and she.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, So she said, yeah, he uh, you know, he tells.
I could follow that. He tells good. But I didn't
want to tell you because you already got the looks.
You don't need any more.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh here we go, Here we go, Romeo.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
You don't need any more love. You get enough on
the show. I appreciate all right, Mark Sanchez, we gave
him the Bears game that you were going to have
more fun.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's gonna be awesome. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's a great opener. Cannot wait. Uh. I just discovered
JLab headphones. I'm hulked. Recent East coast trip. Unbelievable. They
are noise canceling headphones. Look for the blue box, Walmart, Target,
Best Buy airports across the country, Jylab, Mark Sanchez, you
crushed it.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
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Speaker 1 (30:23):
So this was a borderline comical. Yesterday, the NCUBA opposed
a four year show cause on Jim Harbaugh. If he
comes back to the NCUBLA the coach football in the
next four years, he's getting a spanking. He's not coming back.
Remember it was about a year ago. Two years ago
(30:45):
we kept hearing about the twelve team playoff was years away.
They're already talking about a fourteen team playoff and we
haven't gotten to the twelve yet. Do you know why
that is? Because of Fox and ESPN and NBC. The
grownups now run the sport, not the bureaucrats. College football
(31:06):
is like a great game of pickup basketball, and the
NCUBA is the one guy who keeps calling tiki tac
fouls and killing the vibe. The SEC this week said
we're going to now mandate injury reports like pro football.
The NCAA doesn't even lead with that. Headsets Big ten
SEC they've decided to use them. Why television networks, NCUBA,
(31:32):
It's too much work. I don't know more red tape needed.
College football going forward is going to be led by
TV networks for years, this sport's had a messed up schedule,
won't use available technology. They're just killing a great sport,
a remarkable vibe. Within two years, the top football programs
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in college will have general managers running the program, giving
coaches more time to develop young high school and college players.
It will look more like pro football. The Big Ten
will be the AFC, the SEC will be the NFC,
and there'll be a couple of teams we allow to
come into the playoffs, but they won't do much. That's
(32:18):
because the TV network's tired for years of a sport
making eight billion dollars and not hiring a CEO. Sometimes
you need grownups and that's what college football needs. So
Jim Harball, if he comes back to college football, he'll
get a spanking. He'll be sent to the corner. Let
(32:39):
me tell you what he's going to be doing over
the next four years playing in January. It's so far
he's not coming back to college football, and college football
is exploding with the nil with a transfer portal, no
more or not as many boring bowl games because TV
Networks let us do it. You guys don't know what
(33:02):
you're doing. By the way, Michigan, if they face real
stiff violations, we'll sick attorneys on the NCUBLEA fight it
off for years, and the NC DOUBLEA will eventually wave
a white flag. Jmax around the corner with herdline News
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
Very exciting stuff going on. I can't wait for this
weekend air show in Chicago. But beyond that, we got
NFL games this weekend and a lot of these a
lot of these star quarterbacks are playing. We're getting We're
getting right around mid August. Right now, in July is
dead month. Not that by the way. Wemby, Oh yeah,
against the Americans. Well, assuming the Americans win, we'll get
(34:33):
to it. Chorley Jmack with the News.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Turns this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So, as Cowherd just alluded to, France has taken down
favored Germany and France will meet the winner of USA
Serbia in the gold medal match.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
USA up next against Serbia. Here now, Colin, I'm just
I'm on record, this is a very dangerous spot. Everybody thinks,
oh USA beat them by the I bet.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Sir to cover and Lebron to have a good game
on my DraftKings back.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
So we talked about the spread. I think Wednesday morning
it was seventeen and a half. It's now fourteen and
a half.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, no, the money's pouring in on service now Serbia
is the side. Doesn't mean they'll win, but that's the
side again.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
One of the crazy stats was with Jokic on the floor,
the teams were even plus minus even, but Yokic off
it was like minus whatever win anyway. Steve Kerr does
not want his team to get too complacent, said the
US can't get lulled to sleep because they've beaten him twice.
I'm just I'm very nervous about this game for the US.
I'm optimistic, like you said, that they'll win, but this
will not be Why.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
My guess is Kerr tightens up the rotation. So don't
think aunt Edwards won't play as many minutes. Lebron will
play more minutes. Serbia is gonna play its butt off.
So my take is Lebron will have a nice, nice game.
They'll tighten up the rotation considerably. You're not gonna see
the bench scoring for Team USA. And I also I
(35:58):
think it's just a very very close game. I'll take
to win by about eight seven.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you this.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You know he's my favorite player, Steph Curry has struggled, okay,
and this is a physical, physical Serbia team. If Curry's
like one of nine, is there a world where he's like, listen,
I'm sorry, I'm rolling with Derek White or Drew Holiday
over Curry in the fourth quarter because they got are
guys struggling, and you know they're gonna target him defensively.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Well, I think Kurr's gonna go with the winning hands.
I think whoever's playing well gets to play. It's hard, though,
you're asking to ask international competition when you're facing Yokich
gonna be him a third time? Soundly? Good luck? Now,
I think it's gonna be the game of the tournament.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I'm a little nervous for the US. I do think
we get the job done. This is a tough match.
This ain't the dream team facing guys who want autographs
at halftime. Okay, this is like a real basketball team.
I know it's gonna be a great game coming up
soon here later today. Next up the Brandon Nayuk sweepstakes.
We're trying to monitor it by the minute.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Allegedly, the Niners are asked looking for two first round
picks from Pittsburgh. The Steelers were apparently the front runner.
Nothing has been agreed upon yet, although a bunch of
radio guys in Pittsburgh seem to think it's done. Two
first round picks seems a little bit steep.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And you've got to make him a top five I
would do a first round pick, but I don't want
two plus.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I have to pay him.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Where's the win for me?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
That's way too I just don't get why this The
Niners would want two first round pick?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
What are you doing with two picks?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
If you're the Niners, what would you demand?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Of all the deals so far that I've heard, Amari
Cooper and whatever picks is the best deal that to
me helps you now because you want to win now
your favorite in every game this season, but to go
back to the super Bowl, you cannot just remove you.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He's not to beat you down the field guy. He's more.
He's a good receiver, but he's not an over the
top guy.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
I don't think you're losing that much if you go
from Ayuk Took.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think's a much better blocker.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
But by all accounts, Ayuk only wants Pittsburgh. He's got
Billy Helbett. Apparently Washington was a team he wanted because
of Jaden Daniels connection, and then now he's kind of
off Washington. I guess they they're not willing to do
whatever deal the Niners wanted, but two first.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Round picks come.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
There's no way I'm moving two first round picks for
a receiver, I don't think. And I have to pay him. Yeah,
I need those picks because I got to hit on
some picks, because I'm paying a receiver twenty nine million.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Dollars the Picksbord's not paying anyone else on offense.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Well, but they're they're paying all sorts of people on defense.
That's Pittsburgh. How's that working out for? It's not They shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, all right, we got the final story here is
several quarterbacks under a ton of pressure to perform in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Four some competitions for a starting spot.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Bleacher Report broke down the quarterbacks most likely to lose
their starting jobs this season. At the top of the list,
no surprise, Daniel Jones, who has Drew Lock breathing down
his neck. Then there's the Aid and O'Connell Gardner minshew
poo pooh platter in Vegas. You got Russell Wilson justin fields,
which is.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Actual compet Sam Donald four. That's dumb, that's so disrespectful.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah, Jacoby Brissett five.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
They have Sam Donald, bubb Will Levis.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, that's it's just not you know, it's dumb.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
It's just not intelligent like that. Sam Donald's not gonna
lose his job. And Deshaun Watson at six, they have
to play him. Come on, I don't know, they're trapped.
That's the only bad contract in the league. I mean,
Russell Wilson's if you hit on five draft picks and
bow knicks heads, you're gonna forget about that by November. Yeah, Like,
we like Gino Smith, but he should be on this
list over Deshaun Watson. Like and Gino Smith probably not
(39:37):
gonna lose his job. But if you're doing a list.
How is Sam Donald four? Deshaun Watson six. I'm not
really feeling that.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I buy the first three.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
And well, by the way, where's the Denver Broncos situation.
They're just not on the list.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Well, bow Knicks is gonna start and not lose his job.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
You mean third on the depth chart, phone Nicks, you
can't buy that. You're buying that he's third. I mean
they so is JJ McCarthy. But they're those young guys
with the install they're not ready yet. The JJ McCarthy
will be a solid backup by the second week in September.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I think you're sleeping on Jared Sindham. Remember two years
ago he had a I think Jared's that it makes
me sleep. Come on, all right, Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
The herd Line News Lisa Leslie last hour, Our women
crushed and continue to crush at the Olympics. Jordan Palmer
stops by as well. By the way, Ed, this was
good news. Did you hear Cliff Kingsbury talking about Jayden Daniels,
who's a great athlete and you can get away with
just being a great athlete. For a couple of years.
But if you want to grow as a quarterback, you
(40:48):
got to study. Here is cliff On, his rookie quarterback.
This team I think makes the playoffs. Here's Kingsbury.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
I love the process and the love that approaches each day.
Harry handles the good all the installs. He must study
it like crazy at night because every morning when we
get here and he walks through with us, he nails it.
And so you just appreciate the work he's putting in.
He's paying the cost to try and get where he
wants to get, and that's all you can ask for
a young player.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, listen, I mean, you can get away with athleticism
for a while, but Cam Newton was shot at thirty
and totally unathletic. Philip Rivers in his last year at
thirty nine, won eleven games for the Colts, forty one
hundred yards and a ninety seven passer rating and couldn't
avoid that chair if it was chasing him because he
(41:36):
was good pre snap. Philip Rivers once told me on
the air, I like the process better than the actual games.
You can get away running around for a while, Kyler Murray,
but at some point you got to get off those
video games. You can audible your way out of sacks
and pressures. And I mean Johnny Mandel is a great example.
And Johnny and Michael Vick would both admit it. They
(41:57):
didn't put the work in the first couple of years.
They just didn't put working. And they're both excellent athletes.
The fact that this kid is such a great athlete.
And Cliff Kitingsbury, I'm reading the entire quote here. He's like,
we put an install in the next day, he nails it.
I know he's going back to his place and watching
film all night. That almost guarantees success if you have
the athleticism to beat people with your feet and you're
(42:19):
a workaholic in the film room. I'm telling you last year,
the number two quarterback picked was the one that popped
Jade and Daniels. Washington, you got a fantasy team getting
down to your last pick. I wanna roll the dice.
J Mack Jade Daniels, No thanks, pass our three next
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