August 13, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin is hardly surprised the Jets are facing another contract issue with star pass rusher Haason Reddick because the Jets front office always finds themselves in a problematic situation
Why on Earth did the Red Sox trade Mookie Betts?
Colin gives his thoughts on the new book about Aaron Rodgers
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back in Toe today the show yesterday, last hour, The
Jets Hassan Reddick situation is now more in. They made
a move for him. He held out five million in fines.
Now he says he wants to be traded. So I
was thinking about this driving in this morning and how
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to position you know this story, and I thought so
much for people, for businesses, for life, so much of
what we do is not about our actions. It's about
how we handle bad days, our reactions. Everybody has bad days.
Michael Jordan had bad games, bad days. People get divorced,
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they go into bankruptcy. Good people they get, you know,
their scammers everywhere. How do you react to it? How
long are your dips? And I can remember my dad
saying years ago, like recessions are garage sales for the prepared,
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Like how long is the dip? Don't live up? You
know you don't need a fourth jet, ski, a third house,
the sixth car. Be ready for the dips from our economy.
And so the story comes out for the Jets about
Hassan Reddick, and the downside for the Jets is it's
not the distraction. Every team has distractions. It's that he's
actually a really good player in a place of need.
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Because Bryce Huff, who led them with ten sacks last
year and was their highest graded pass rusher according to PFF,
went to the Eagles, so they need a pass rusher.
It's not the distraction necessarily, it's his talent, his skill,
his ability. He plugs a hole and the Jets have
never been good with the dips. This team has very
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thin margins. Garrett Wilson's their only great receiver. Mike Williams
can't stay healthy. Love him, but he can't stay healthy.
Their offensive line, Tyron Smith never gives you a full season.
Elijah Vera Tucker, I like him, hurt a lot. So
their margins. They are one receiver injury and one running
back ankle twist from having issues. And now they've lost
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their best pass rusher and the guy they brought in
wants to be traded. So their margins are thin. But
it's okay. This stuff happens to everybody. But I'll give
you an example of people that are prepared. The Chiefs
have had to rebuild their own line, their defense, and
their wide receiver room, and yet they end up in
Super Bowls and win them. The LA Rams have had
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massive coaching turnover. Mcvay's lost four coordinators. They have a
different defensive coordinator every other year. Aaron Donald now leaves,
Andrew Whitworth leaves, Matt Stafford's been hurt. Cooper Cup is
out seven years. McVeigh five playoffs, two trips to the
Super Bowl. They draft well, their dips are brief. The
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Ravens have lost great coaches. They've missed on draft picks.
Lamar's been hurt, They've lost people to free agency, and
the Ravens are always in the Super Bowl bubble. Philadelphia
sign Carson Wentz to a huge deal, then they moved
off him. They won a super Bowl with Nick Foles
Doug Peterson, they move off him, they hire Nick Serioni,
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they get to another Super Bowl. Everybody in life has dips.
Action is about fifty percent of life. The other fifty
is reaction. How do you handle the dips? The Jets
don't handle them well. So it's not just that their
GM missed on a left tackle and a quarterback, because
he's hit on like eight to ten players, but those
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are ones you can't miss on, especially over a two
three year period. They're head coach. He's had public snaffoos
calling out Aaron Rodgers, why are you going there? And
if you've had public snaffoos, you've probably done stuff behind
the scenes that's not great, either in meetings or in conversations.
So it's not that the Jets necessarily make more bad
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moves than everybody else, but they're not good with the dips.
The Rams were supposed to be in a rebuild. They
were a play away from the NFC Championship last year
with an incredibly young roster. Aaron Rodgers leaves the Green
Bay Packers a year later, they're better. Everybody's losing star quarterbacks,
everybody's dealing with injuries, everybody's losing a great coordinator, everybody's
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got to hold out. Everybody loses a great pass rusher.
It's not that the Jets have more crap going on,
but they don't know what to do with it. They
don't react well. I mean a prime example is the
and because they don't have any like real identity, they
let Aaron Rodgers come in and Aaron's like, I want
Nat Hackett. No, no, Jets hired Net Hackett. Now they're
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bailing water to get another coordinator to run the clock
or call plays for their offensive coordinator. So when you
don't have an identity, which the Jets don't, impulsive owners
their identity that you're willing to be pushed around by
a star player. I want Alan Lazard, I want Nat Hackettyah,
how's that worked out? So it's the distraction here is
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not the big issue. It's they literally lost their best
pass rusher and they need this pass rusher, and they
don't come across as very organized in the process, and
they are. I mean, you can go look at Philadelphia
Rams Chiefs R. Forty nine Ers, forty nine Ers draft
Trey Lance Whiff, oh my boom, Brock Purty, you got
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it solved, Brandon I you draft two receivers, Trent Williams hurt. Okay,
they didn't overcome that one. But that's the difference. Is
is the Raiders and the Jets and historically the Bears,
and everybody's losing. Everybody's got bad days. I mean, good God,
the Packers lost Farv and Aaron Rodgers. They were within
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a year. You're like, may be better. They're organized, they
have an identity, they have a plan. They're the dips
in life. Everybody has them. Efficient, smart people. They're very
brief and with the Jets, they never are. All right. So,
the two worst trades in Major League Baseball history both
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belong to the Red Sox. They gave up Babe Ruth
and they gave up Mookey Bets. So and you think, oh,
I'm being hyperbolic here. Mookie bets has been gone for
two months. The kid's incredible in their prime, in his prime,
the Red Sox are like, we're gonna move him to
the Dodgers. Yeah, you'll need a search party to fine
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the players they traded for him, because only one guy
they got for Mookie Bets still remains with the Red Sox.
Don't need a lot of sleuthing. One guy's left. Mooky
returned last night and here's his second at bat.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
This is blasted Westfield, indeed on the track at the
Mooky Bets back with the band. A two run homer
for Mookie Bets. The Dodgers strike first in Milwaukee. Who
needs a rehab assignment? Not MOOKI well, there's a there's
a rule in business. Never let great walk out of
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the door. And in the six months after they signed
Mookie Batts. Six months later, the Dodger signed him to
a twelve year extension.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They knew what they had. Probably the best player in baseball.
He'll play any position. They put him at short last night.
You want to go play right field. He didn't even
really have a rehab. He's worked out at home. He
has bats all over his house. He grabs some swings.
I mean, he didn't go to the minor leagues. He
can play anything. Last night right field shortstop played second base,
probably could pitch, play catcher, the smile, he's great in
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the locker room. He's a leader, he can run any
defensive position, most well liked guy in the clubhouse. He
can hit for power. And the Red Sox let him go.
They let great walk out of the building. It's just now,
all they had to do with the Dodgers, all they
had to do was eat David Price's contract. I mean
that might as well be I mean the sighting of
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Haley's comet. Who remembers it? David Price? Where'd he go?
Like the contract? I remember it was a bad contract.
But in the end, you've got Mookie Bets for twelve years,
who's just an absolutely unbelievable player. And I'm watching last
night and I'm like, I know, Aaron Judge is great,
but do the Dodgers have the two best players in
baseball between Mokie Betts and Shoheo Tani and Otani this year?
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You know he's not. He's d eight. So Mookie's given
you defense, he's given you offense, He's given you shortstop,
and it's just it's incredible. By the way, since the
Dodgers traded for him, I was looking at some numbers
this morning. Since the Dodgers traded for him, the Dodgers
have the most wins in baseball, the number one the
first run differential, the second best home run differential, the
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best team at ERA, and the Red Sox are seventeenth
or lower in all those categories. They let Great walk
out of the building. This guy's unbelievable shortstop, second, right field.
It's he'll play him either way. Since he arrived, he's
been top five in MVP voting, I think three or
four times. Also, he has one hundred and twenty four
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home rows in five hundred and forty four games. And
when you look at him, he's slight. He's not a
big guy. Oh Tawny and Aaron Judge, John Carlos Stanton.
Some of the guys in this sport look like home
run hitters. He reminds me a little bit of Joe Morgan,
although Morgan was a second baseman, left hand and smaller.
But you're always like, how does Joe Morgan generate all
that power?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
He's a little guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And he batted third for the big Red Machine. You
watch Mookie Betts and you're like, how how does he
generate all that power? He swung from the heels on
his first bat and kind of flopped over. He is
also a profoundly good bowler, so whether it's baseball or bowling,
he hovers around three hundred a lot. But it is
remarkable that you don't see great players moving into their
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prime traded very often. It's not like he was a disruptor.
He was wonderful in the clubhouse. Everybody loved Mookie Bets,
but they know the Red Sox financially, they had it
to get somebody to eat a big contract. And I
look up and I'm just like, that guy is unbelievable.
He has changed. I know we give a lot of
press to O Tawny, but Mooky Betts arrived. It just
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changed everything. And last night was his first game back.
He'd been out for a couple of months. They call
it a five tool player, but if he had personality
and leadership, he's probably a seven tool player. And his
first game he also had a RBI single. And just
the energy around him. He's always smiling. There's great energy.
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First guy up the steps, a dugout to greet somebody.
It's just watching him. Last night, I'm like, how in
the world did the Red Sox let him go, Babe
Ruth and Mookie Betts. And we don't talk a lot
of baseball on this show, but it's very rare when
you watch a sporting event. You see it in basketball
a lot and somebody jumps off the screen. That's like,
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you know, a t O when he was an NFL player,
was so big and strong for a wide receiver, he
like jumped off the TV screen. Lebron's like that. Shaq
was like that. You watch a baseball game with Mookie
Betts and even at its pace, which is slow, just
if he he's involved in a play. Who's that guy?
Who is that guy? Mookie Betts returns for the Dodgers.
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So the Aaron Rodgers book, I'm about seventy percent through it.
It is It is a lot. I was watching an
interview this morning with Aaron on a New York morning show,
and you know, he's just he's just prickly. He just
you know, and he's one of these people that believes
increasingly that he's a truth teller, like Elon Musk views
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himself as that, even though his platform often has to
put underneath one of his tweets, yeah this is not true.
His own company is like, Yeah, the guy who owns
us is just making crap up. But he views himself
as sort of Aaron, as sort of a truth teller.
I do my own homework. It's Elon Musk. We have
a presidential candidate like that. We've got podcasters like that.
I am the one giving you the real story. I've
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done my own homework. And he comes across complex. He
can be sweet, he can be thoughtful. There's a lot
to unpack, and I'll give you more thoughts on that
book because there's one thing to defend Aaron Rodgers. There
is one element of that book where I found myself
for about thirty minutes feeling sorry for Aaron Rodgers. And
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one of the things he went through. It's Ian O'Connor
wrote the book. It is called Out of the Darkness,
The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. He was going to write
a Lebron book and he said, you know people had
come out and written Lebron books. And the one reason
he wrote it was because of the mystery around Aaron Rodgers.
And when you read this book, there are a lot
of layers on the onion appeal. I mean, there is
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there's a lot to appeal his great grandfather who looks
like Aaron. The first chapter is incredible. I mean, in
a fighter pilot enemy territory, like Aaron's life story is
a mile deep and a mile wide. And we'll get
to that next.
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, welcome back. I got to talk about this
Nick Wright top of next hour, Mark Fugh, Michael Rubin.
So there's this book out a friend of mine, I O'Connor,
who's written, you know, the Derek Jeter book, Captain Belichick.
He's as good as anybody in this business as writing
a book that goes a mile deep. So he chose
Aaron Rodgers. He was in New York. Aaron had come
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to town and he wrote a book called Out of
the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Interviewed over five
hundred people. You can tell there's just so many areas here.
Aaron admits that he wishes he would have been more
upfront with a vaccine, but you know, there was a
lot of reactions from a lot of people with vaccines.
I can't hold it against anybody, nor should I in
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my position. You know, I will tell you you start
to get a little greater understanding. I mean, obviously when
you go deep with anybody. Aaron's very complex. He can
be petty, he can be co he can be kind,
he can be sweet, he can be thoughtful, He's incredibly loyal,
and then he can ghost you. And so there's that.
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I have two major takeaways, maybe three. Number one is
Aaron was being hazed for the first three four years
in this organization. The packers front office was trapped with
an old bitter Brett Farv, who was territorial and insecure,
and Aaron was the golden boy. And he was good looking,
he was cocky, and he was smarter than Farv, and
he let him know it. And he had a ton
of talent. And Brett was a little beat up. You know,
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Brett never missed a start, and Brett was stubborn. But
Brett was also hunt fish guy, get on a tractor guy,
gunslinger guy. That plays very well in Green Bay, small town.
Everybody's hunting and fishing in that area. And Aaron's you know,
he's kind of a Hollywood looking guy with a bit
of a chip on his shoulder to begin with some
of these problems. You know, he kept poking Farv in
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the ribs and Mike McCarthy in the ribs and got
called out for it. So it's not all against Aaron.
But there's chunks in this book that I was upset, like,
I was like mad how Aaron was being treated, And
he deserves a lot of credit for fighting through it.
You had a front office that wasn't upfront with him.
The town wouldn't let go. It's like a high school town.
They wouldn't let go of the love quarterback you had.
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Farv was territorial. It was a lot and Aaron deserves
a ton of credit putting his head down and just
fighting through it deserves a ton of credit.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It was almost like Farv in Green Bay were getting
a divorce and Aaron was the new girlfriend and nobody
liked her. That's what it felt like. The second thing
it made me think about is I wonder how Aaron
Rodgers would have done if he'd ha gone to like
a Buffalo or Kansas City or a Detroit or somewhere
else instead of the smallest town in the league. And
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I think, no, Green Bay was perfect. And the reason
I think Green Bay was perfect Aaron's got so much
in his head he's thinking about stuff most people don't,
is that he needed quiet and Green Bay's quiet. The
last thing Aaron needed was San Francisco and La or
New York. He can handle it now, maybe, but Aaron
was battling so much stuff. He needed a place to
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sort of like just be into football. It's quiet, it's
not chaotic, although the late Far years felt chaotic by
Green Bay standards. But I think Green Bay's the perfect
place for him. That they really did eventually fall in
love with him. It's the only game in town. And
they gave him out after that far mess. They gave
him the love that he had earned and deserved. And
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the other thing I take away from this book is,
and I've said this about Michael Jordan and Tom Brady,
there's a reason so few people are super successful. It's
damn hard. I was last night having dinner with a
friend who's a very popular chef in Los Angeles, very talented,
and it's just hard all the time. And Aaron Rodgers
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is smart. I mean you find out very quickly high
school college he was different, like he was really talented.
I mean, Josh Allen got overlooked by a lot of people.
People knew Aaron was great, Like they figured it out
very quickly. The junior college coaches like, I've never seen
a player like that. Cal knew he was great the
Pac twelve. You know, people in the NFL knew he
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was great. And he dropped in the draft for a
lot of reasons. Some of it was he could be
off putting with his personality, little cocky. Some of it
was teams back then, you know, didn't not many teams
needed quarterbacks that year, and after he didn't get like
number one pick, a lot of teams just didn't need
a quarterback. So but Aaron's a great example, good looking, smart,
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super talented, very early, went to a great organization. And
it's still that tunnel Andy dufrain went through in Shawshank redemption.
I mean it is it is. There are years in
there with that Brett farvn Packer situation. It's Andy Dufrayne
stuff and the fact that Andy and Aaron Rodgers came
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out of that stuff little dirty. It made me like
Aaron because some of the stories I'd heard. It made
me like Aaron Moore respect him more the crab. I
didn't didn't like Brett Farrv at all in the book necessarily.
Jeff Pearlman also wrote Gunslinger. So I heard a lot
of these stories or read a lot of these stories before,
but this was this book was all about Aaron, not
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about far And it also Aaron digs his own holes,
like you know, he would do things and McCarthy had
to call him out because he did stuff that people
shouldn't do if you're the quarterback of the team, and
he said stuff to Brett Farv that you got to
do better. I mean, he's a legend, but it encompasses
a lot, and I had a lot of feelings, and
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the feelings were he basically went through three to four
years of hazing. Brett farr was incredibly territorial. Green Bay
in the end, I think is the perfect place to
create that chip on his shoulder Aaron, as my wife says,
Aaron is balanced. He has a chip on bow shoulders.
And it just illustrates again, if you're Michael Jordan or
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you're Aaron Rodgers, there's a reason so few people are
super successful. It's really hard. That's for the good looking,
great guys, right that's for the guys that are stylish
and look like they should be in movies and and
are brilliant and are dominating. It's still so hard to
be at the top of the mountain. Here's j Mack
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with a news.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No tarn on the news. This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
All right, sir, Let's stick with the Packers Colum, because
they have yet to find a bona fide number one
wide receiver since losing DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
But that didn't hurt Jordan Love were the Packers last season.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Love ranks second in the NFL and with thirty two
passing touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Matt Lafleur was asked.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
About who would be the number one option this season,
and here's what he had to say.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I want to vombent. Every time I hear number one receiver,
to be honest with it drives me crazy. That's something
that you guys talk about. Well, I feel like we
got a bunch of them. I think the beauty of
them is they're all capable of doing many things, which
gives us a lot of versatility from an offensive perspective
in terms of how we use these guys and deploy
their talents, especially those I would say top four guys.
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They're all capable of being a number one in some capacity.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, I think we've discussed this. I think it's the
most overstated position in the pro football, which is the
need for a number one receiver. And it's really nonsense.
Is that Brady I mean, Edelman was his favorite target,
but often it was Gronk in the red zone. And
the one time he had a number one receiver, Randy Moss.
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They didn't win a Super.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Bowl, but I mean, come on, they were undefeated. They
were one of the great teams in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, but Tyreek Hill leaves and Mahomes is a better quarterback.
And I think number one receivers come with ego. They
can with their high maintenance. They want the ball, and
it's I just don't think they're necessary. I really don't.
I would rather have It's not like baseball, where if
I go into a five or seven game series and
I get Justin Verland or Clayton Kershaw and their prime
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I have two w's. If I had four number two's
and no number one and they're all just complimenting each other,
I would take that in a day over a great one,
and then I have like not really a two, A
couple threes, give me balance. I don't know who is
Puka Nakua or Cooper Cup number one. It doesn't matter.
Get open on third down, That's all I care about.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
I wanted to disagree with you, but you're on my
take here. Now let me ask you packers. I'm just
gonna name their top four receivers last year. You want
to guess who led them in receptions. There's Christian Watson,
Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reid, and dun Tavian Wicks.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, I think Jaden Reid is the one that looks
like he's really emerging a. Watson is the big guy
that runs well but struggles to stay healthy and stay healthy.
Dobbs had a drop issue early. I think he's really
talented as well. And the last guy you named again,
they also have very serviceable tight ends. Yeah, who was
their number one?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
So Jaden Reid led them in receptions, Dobbs led them
in first downs and targets, Watson's the game breaker, and
Wix like came out of nowhere, Like, I think this
is going to be potentially a new model. Hey, we're
not paying all the money to Devonte Adams. I'd rather
have picks and disperse them that way. Well, yeah, Kisas
City's doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
People are confusing the need for receivers, which you do
need weapons, but they're even gms in the league are
confusing the need for receivers with a need for a
number one receiver. And I just don't think it's necessary.
I mean, it's great if you have a Jamar Chase.
It's less great when I pay him thirty four million
a year.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, Buffalo has now decided we're going to go that route.
We don't have a number one this season. That's fine.
We're gonna go with the tight end sets obviously in
the running back.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
But because of what these receivers are demanding in the market,
I think we're going to see some teams copy this.
I'm in to see what shakes out with because he
we think is a number one, right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think he's in number one, and in certain ecosystems
like New England, he would be absolutely elevating the team.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
But no way he would be Devanta Adams with the Raiders, like,
I'll put up good numbers, but we're gonna stink, right.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And I just I think if you have like if
T Higgins left the Bengals, eventually, Okay, I'll double Jamar Chase.
It's much harder to double Jamar Chase now when I've
got T. Higgins on the other side. So it's again
the Randy Moss New England years. The numbers were great
in the regular season. But think about this too, when
do you decide champions in the NFL outdoors in January
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and February. You better have a strong arm quarterback because
it's windy and cold. Even the Randy Moss years September
and October, early November, Randy's putting up big numbers. You
start facing the best coordinators, the best corners, the wins
crappier tyreek Hill is wonderful in the regular season. Yeah,
with to his arm, what's he going to do in
January when he's at Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You know how you your financial advisor and he goes
over your portfolio and he might say, hey, you're way
too heavy in stock weighted here, you're too much in
real estate. It's like the Miami Dolphins right now. They're
all in crypto right all offense and receivers and quarterback,
and it's like you can't win a Super Bowl with
Tyreek and Waddell and Tuoa being your three guys.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
There's no balance.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It's in the NFL. You don't have to be great
or even very good everywhere. You have the coaching so good,
you have to avoid being awful anywhere, like like like
you like when even the Chiefs, when the O line
was awful because of injuries, got blown out in the
Super Bowl. You can't be awful anywhere the coaching is
too good. In college, you can be awful and people
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can't take advantage of it.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You can hide your awfulness right so like, but not
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, I don't know where the Packers awful colin the
defense last year, but and the defense coordinator was was
not great.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, but I would and I don't have the numbers
in front of me. They don't generate a consistent pass rush.
That is just off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
You got a lot of number ones on the defense
you're starting getting.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
They don't miss much. They don't miss on offense much
at all. I don't know where they were in sacks,
but I felt like watching Packer games, the pass rush
was inconsistent body at best.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'll just say this and I've got some of the numbers,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Being away for the weekend, I was able to look
the Aaron Jones factors being underplayed, like he was a
big time stud for them, the Packers last year.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
When he was healthy.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know, they have very very good Now they don't.
They have Jacobs now.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You like him.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
You see what he did last season after getting paid
by the Raiders, winning that battle.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Something to think about.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
All right, Let's move on to Tua and the Dolphins too.
Obviously got paid four years, two hundred twelve million. He
set highs for his career in completion percentage, yards and
twenty nine touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Tyreek Hill believes that too, it could be even better.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
That's gonna be scary this year, man. I can see
a lot of improvements in OOS's game. Man. He'd done
a tremendous job on you know, just really honing in
on his craft like each and every offseason and then
obviously like calling us like me and Wado and some
of the other guys to come work out with him.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Man.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
So it's been a beautiful thing, man, like each and
every year, just to be a part of his whole development.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
From year one, I've been with him to year three,
like I can.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
I can say that this year, like I'm gonna call
my shot, like he can be an MVP candidate once
again and even win the thing man because he's just
that nice.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
We'll see, I'll put up some numbers, right, we agree
that the defense ain't stoping. Nobody's gonna have to score.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, I was saying this last week. Is in whereas
a guy like Dak who's made a lot of money
no state tax cowboys have helped him get huge endorsements,
I would sign more of a team friendly deal with
Jalen Hurtzer to us smaller guys had injuries. I'd take
whatever I could get. And it's different, you know, mahomes
take a little less, win more rings. He's also making
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forty million in endorsements. There's a lot of different ways
to make money in the NFL. Brady took less, but
now he's an icon. Signs with Fox five minutes after
he retires for all that money. And so with Tua,
I do think they're trapped a little. Tua needs to
take the most money and he did because he just
you don't know if it's gonna last, and so it's
not one size fits all in the NFL. Where I
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will defend to is Tua should not do necessarily a
team friendly deal because his body is not built for
twelve years in this league, Jalen Hurts has been I
always feel like Jalen Hurts is not one hundred percent.
Jalen should take the most he can get. But what's
interesting with two. I think when you have these injuries
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and his lack of size, the downside is you can't
play the long game. You got to take the most
you can get, and that's what they did, and so
I think eventually it will potentially limit some of their
personnel moves because they have so much money in two
and now in the receivers they're lobsided.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
The final story is the Dallas Cowboys AH this offseason
and drama continues well. Vegas has their win total at
ten and a half. We've talked about how their favorites
in like thirteen games. According to one sportsbook, though colin
Dallas has the most under money wagered of any NFL
team wopping ninety three percent of the money is on
the under which is now juiced to minus two hundred.
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So you got to pay up if you want to
bet the under on the Cowboys. I guess a lot
of people have been watching the show going and betting
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Ten and a half. I can't go over on ten
and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For sure, No way.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The other thing is there's so much more accessible information
for fans, and fans were awful betting games twenty years ago.
Fans are much better at betty games. There's more information
and they know where to get it, and there's more
handicappers like professional people that do this for a living
that can give you information. When you look at that
Dallas schedule, it's not the toughest schedule in the league.
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There's a lot of breaks in it. Anytime you have
the Giants in it, it's a break. But it doesn't
you don't get to me. The Dallas schedule is really important.
The first two weeks, if they beat Cleveland and the Saints,
they're on their way. But it's Baltimore week three, and
and then it's Detroit San Francisco. I'm here to tell
you that at Atlanta game, Atlanta's Atlanta's going to be.
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Then it's Philadelphia, then it's Houston. So for Dallas to me,
they have got to get to a fast start, because
there's some real potholes starting in about week six.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I just you know, I don't want to go back
to the Dak thing. But you just said, like I
don't know three minutes ago. You know, Dak could take
a team friendly deal and colin the way this Dallas
offseason has gone, So Mike McCarthy is suddenly on the
hot seat and they're like, oh, he's won twelve game three.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Years in a row, but he's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Dak Prescott has was runner up for MVP last year,
and it's like, ah, we don't want to pay.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Him, and it's like, what's going on here? What are
we missing?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Like Dak has been a loyal quarterback for that franchise,
a perfect podium guy as you like to say. He's
a great faith of the franchise. All he does is win,
and now Dallas doesn't want to pay him.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
No, Dallas doesn't want to pay him what Dak wants.
They want to build the PAM. It's just a it's
just a game. And I think, and there's also this
narrative out there that the Cowboys are so poorly run.
No they're not. When's the last time. The Cowboys were
bad in back to back seasons. They underachieve late. They're
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not poorly run. They draft pretty well. They found they
found a lot. Look at their first round picks. I
mean they got Dak in the fourth round. Micah Ceedee
Lammer home runs. Dallas is not poorly run. I tend
to think it's they run like the Lakers. There. It's
a big business run like a local general store, you know.
I mean the Lakers hire Kobe's agents, their general manager,
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and people close to Genie buss or in the front office.
That's fine. The Cowboys are the same thing. They don't
let enough eyes outside of the building parcels and Jimmy
Johnson they'd tell you what you didn't want to hear,
and they let them go. Jason Garrett was more of
felt like the family. And so I don't think the
Cowboys are poorly run. I do think they are over
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loyal to their draft picks because of Jerry's ego at
validates his draft picks. Okay, but but when I ever
I hear the Cowboys Dak should take every penny. They're
poorly run. No, Dak inherited the best offensive line in football,
you know, who drafted those guys, Jerry Jones, so he
also inherited the best running back in football. I mean,
so let's not make it out the Cowboys are poorly run.
(32:23):
They have now become, I think, very insular, and they're
incredibly top heaf, top heavy.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
But the Rams are top heavy when they won the
Super Bowl, yes they were. Now they were better. Staff
are better than Dak. But I don't know, I just
maybe we're over exaggerating three tough playoff losses the Packers. No,
so stinks the forty nine ers losses. You're losing great
teams in the forty nine ers. And then there was
the des Bryant, you know, the fumble against the Packers.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Like, yeah, maybe they're closer than we think.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
No, not really, Okay. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Well that's the and thanks for stopping by the heard line.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
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Speaker 1 (34:16):
All right, this is breaking news. JJ McCarthy, who had
a really nice debut against the Raiders, ran the ball. Well.
He has a torn meniscus in his right knee, according
to his coach, Kevin O'Connell. And they don't know how
extensive the surgery is. But JJ McCarthy the quarterback out
of Michigan. The meniscus tear. He's not going to start
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early in the season. They don't know yet how long
he'll be sidelined. Generally, young athletes, especially, they return much
faster than you think, so it doesn't say season ending injury.
I think it puts Sam Donald was going to start anyway.
I think JJ McCarthy made everybody feel like it was
closer than we previously predicted. But Sam Donald's the quarterback.
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So you know, we talked about this all the time.
Sixty quarterbacks played last year, and so when people freak
out that the Falcons drafted Michael Pennix and got Kirk Cousins,
Minnesota's already out one of their best quarterbacks. We're one
preseason game in, they're already down one quarterback. So the
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best problem in the NFL to have is we've got
a loaded quarterback room. You can deal with it. So
he looked good. You know, all these quarterbacks I have
different feelings about. I think Caleb is the only one
good enough in this draft to overcome a bad coach,
bad coordinator. He'll still be productive. I think everybody else
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needs something. I think Sean Payton is really important for
bow Nicks. He could not overcome a bad old line
or a bad defensive coach. JJ McCarthy feels like he
needs the right coach and the right fit. He's not
big enough, strong enough, you know, he's not that. I
think the draft has one super talent and then you're
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gonna be as successful as the situation you're placed in.
Even Jayden Daniels, who I like, is pretty slight. That
Bill's not going to take a beating. So they've got
a they got their quarterback, they got the coaching staff.
They got to get the on line right and protect him.
So there you go. Sam Darnold's gonna play and start
a week one without a doubt. Here's the other thing.
(36:24):
I I was thinking about Justin Fields, and I think
JJ McCarthy isn't as physically gifted as Justin Fields, but
he's probably a better prospect. When he went to Pittsburgh,
I had said that, you know, he's not great enough
to overcome the wrong coach or the wrong coordinator or
a bad old line. But the Pittsburgh thing, after watching
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this weekend, it's I'm trying to talk myself into Justin Fields,
and every time I watch him I see the same thing,
and it does show you why so many scouts and
general managers make mistakes on players, because you fall in
love with talent. He just doesn't see the field, he
doesn't recognize defenses, whatever it is. It's way too hard
(37:08):
and I was thinking about this this morning as we
were prepping for the show. I'm not sure Pittsburgh is
a great place for him. Here's the one thing Mike
Tomlin does not do well, and it's not arguable develop
offensive lines. He just doesn't. I mean, if you go
look at the best offensive lines in the NFL last year,
for the top five had offensive coaches at the time Falcons, Philly, Colts,
(37:31):
and Lions. I don't think it's a coincidence. McVeigh, Andy Reid,
Matt Lafleur in Green Bay, Sean Payton in one off
season fixed mostly fixed the Denver offensive line. How long
before Buffalo can get a great offensive line outside a
left tackle. It's been like nine years. It feels like
it's still mediocre. Josh Allen's still running for his life.
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Pittsburgh ten straight drafts under Mike Tomlin. They didn't take
an offensive lineman in the first or second round and
yet during that stretch they took five linebackers and overwhelmingly
defensive players as the league was pivoting to offense. And
that's just Mike Tomlin. That's what he's comfortable with. That's
what he knows. Now. The Steelers have always drafted wide
receivers well, but they can't get the O line right.
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And they went into the OD line again this year.
So I kind of look at justin Fields and he
is just not good enough to succeed unless he's got
the right coordinator and the right protection. He holds on
to the ball too long. I mean, he gets sacked
a lot, so did Zach Wilson. For a guy that
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can move, Like when you think guys that get sacked,
you'd be like, well, Kirk Cousins or Jared Goff, not really,
they get rid of the ball. Brady, he'll get say
didn't move.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Tom got rid of it really quickly in red defenses.
So I don't know how well it's gonna work. But
as I was watching him this week, and I'm like,
I just feel like it's just it's harder than it
should be. Just taking the snap. It's just harder than
it should be. And I'm not sure it's a great fit.
Here's Mike Tomlin on Justin Field's fumbling issue on their
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game Friday against Houston.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
I thought he did some nice things, but obviously he
was a component of the CQ exchange, and from my perspective,
that's dual responsibility on the center end the quarterback. I'm
indicated a lot of good things going on in those
first couple of drives, you get behind the change, particularly
at the early stages, before you gain real cohesion and
have enough of a menu to get you out of
them circumstances, you're dead group, and so the SEQ exchanges
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were an issue.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, it's justin Fields. I always feel like he takes
a big step forward and then two back he'll take
a sack, he's holding onto the ball, he'll funble a step.
It's his Like Tom Pelisarro said it yesterday his YouTube
highlight reel, it looks like he's the best player in
the league, but a lot of steps back and God,
Pittsburgh just can't get the O line right. And they've
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drafted good player that got guys I like, but the
Ohesian they're running game despite two backs that I think
are good is always to me hit and miss Sunday
to Sunday. So we'll see Nick Wright topping next hour
stops by. Also, Dion Sanders is not happy with where
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his team has been picked. And and I was looking
the Dallas Cowboys today, according to Forbes, became the first
franchise in league history worth ten billion dollars? Is that
Sportico who came up with that? Not Forbes? Ten billion?
(40:38):
They're the first. Won't believe who's second.
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back in Toe today the show yesterday, last hour, The
Jets Hassan Reddick situation is now more in. They made
a move for him. He held out five million in fines.
Now he says he wants to be traded. So I
was thinking about this driving in this morning and how
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to position you know this story, and I thought so
much for people, for businesses, for life, so much of
what we do is not about our actions. It's about
how we handle bad days, our reactions. Everybody has bad days.
Michael Jordan had bad games, bad days. People get divorced,
(01:34):
they go into bankruptcy. Good people they get, you know,
their scammers everywhere. How do you react to it? How
long are your dips? And I can remember my dad
saying years ago, like recessions are garage sales for the prepared,
(01:54):
Like how long is the dip? Don't live up? You
know you don't need a fourth jet, ski, a third house,
the sixth car. Be ready for the dips from our economy.
And so the story comes out for the Jets about
Hassan Reddick, and the downside for the Jets is it's
not the distraction. Every team has distractions. It's that he's
actually a really good player in a place of need.
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Because Bryce Huff, who led them with ten sacks last
year and was their highest graded pass rusher according to PFF,
went to the Eagles, so they need a pass rusher.
It's not the distraction necessarily, it's his talent, his skill,
his ability. He plugs a hole and the Jets have
never been good with the dips. This team has very
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thin margins. Garrett Wilson's their only great receiver. Mike Williams
can't stay healthy. Love him, but he can't stay healthy.
Their offensive line, Tyron Smith never gives you a full season.
Elijah Vera Tucker, I like him, hurt a lot. So
their margins. They are one receiver injury and one running
back ankle twist from having issues. And now they've lost
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their best pass rusher and the guy they brought in
wants to be traded. So their margins are thin. But
it's okay. This stuff happens to everybody. But I'll give
you an example of people that are prepared. The Chiefs
have had to rebuild their own line, their defense, and
their wide receiver room, and yet they end up in
Super Bowls and win them. The LA Rams have had
(03:20):
massive coaching turnover. Mcvay's lost four coordinators. They have a
different defensive coordinator every other year. Aaron Donald now leaves,
Andrew Whitworth leaves, Matt Stafford's been hurt. Cooper Cup is
out seven years. McVeigh five playoffs, two trips to the
Super Bowl. They draft well, their dips are brief. The
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Ravens have lost great coaches. They've missed on draft picks.
Lamar's been hurt, They've lost people to free agency, and
the Ravens are always in the Super Bowl bubble. Philadelphia
sign Carson Wentz to a huge deal, then they moved
off him. They won a super Bowl with Nick Foles
Doug Peterson, they move off him, they hire Nick Serioni,
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they get to another Super Bowl. Everybody in life has dips.
Action is about fifty percent of life. The other fifty
is reaction. How do you handle the dips? The Jets
don't handle them well. So it's not just that their
GM missed on a left tackle and a quarterback, because
he's hit on like eight to ten players, but those
(04:23):
are ones you can't miss on, especially over a two
three year period. They're head coach. He's had public snaffoos
calling out Aaron Rodgers, why are you going there? And
if you've had public snaffoos, you've probably done stuff behind
the scenes that's not great, either in meetings or in conversations.
So it's not that the Jets necessarily make more bad
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moves than everybody else, but they're not good with the dips.
The Rams were supposed to be in a rebuild. They
were a play away from the NFC Championship last year
with an incredibly young roster. Aaron Rodgers leaves the Green
Bay Packers a year later, they're better. Everybody's losing star quarterbacks,
everybody's dealing with injuries, everybody's losing a great coordinator, everybody's
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got to hold out. Everybody loses a great pass rusher.
It's not that the Jets have more crap going on,
but they don't know what to do with it. They
don't react well. I mean a prime example is the
and because they don't have any like real identity, they
let Aaron Rodgers come in and Aaron's like, I want
Nat Hackett. No, no, Jets hired Net Hackett. Now they're
(05:34):
bailing water to get another coordinator to run the clock
or call plays for their offensive coordinator. So when you
don't have an identity, which the Jets don't, impulsive owners
their identity that you're willing to be pushed around by
a star player. I want Alan Lazard, I want Nat Hackettyah,
how's that worked out? So it's the distraction here is
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not the big issue. It's they literally lost their best
pass rusher and they need this pass rusher, and they
don't come across as very organized in the process, and
they are. I mean, you can go look at Philadelphia
Rams Chiefs R. Forty nine Ers, forty nine Ers draft
Trey Lance Whiff, oh my boom, Brock Purty, you got
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it solved, Brandon I you draft two receivers, Trent Williams hurt. Okay,
they didn't overcome that one. But that's the difference. Is
is the Raiders and the Jets and historically the Bears,
and everybody's losing. Everybody's got bad days. I mean, good God,
the Packers lost Farv and Aaron Rodgers. They were within
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a year. You're like, may be better. They're organized, they
have an identity, they have a plan. They're the dips
in life. Everybody has them. Efficient, smart people. They're very
brief and with the Jets, they never are. All right. So,
the two worst trades in Major League Baseball history both
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belong to the Red Sox. They gave up Babe Ruth
and they gave up Mookey Bets. So and you think, oh,
I'm being hyperbolic here. Mookie bets has been gone for
two months. The kid's incredible in their prime, in his prime,
the Red Sox are like, we're gonna move him to
the Dodgers. Yeah, you'll need a search party to fine
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the players they traded for him, because only one guy
they got for Mookie Bets still remains with the Red Sox.
Don't need a lot of sleuthing. One guy's left. Mooky
returned last night and here's his second at bat.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
This is blasted Westfield, indeed on the track at the
Mooky Bets back with the band. A two run homer
for Mookie Bets. The Dodgers strike first in Milwaukee. Who
needs a rehab assignment? Not MOOKI well, there's a there's
a rule in business. Never let great walk out of
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the door. And in the six months after they signed
Mookie Batts. Six months later, the Dodger signed him to
a twelve year extension.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They knew what they had. Probably the best player in baseball.
He'll play any position. They put him at short last night.
You want to go play right field. He didn't even
really have a rehab. He's worked out at home. He
has bats all over his house. He grabs some swings.
I mean, he didn't go to the minor leagues. He
can play anything. Last night right field shortstop played second base,
probably could pitch, play catcher, the smile, he's great in
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the locker room. He's a leader, he can run any
defensive position, most well liked guy in the clubhouse. He
can hit for power. And the Red Sox let him go.
They let great walk out of the building. It's just now,
all they had to do with the Dodgers, all they
had to do was eat David Price's contract. I mean
that might as well be I mean the sighting of
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Haley's comet. Who remembers it? David Price? Where'd he go?
Like the contract? I remember it was a bad contract.
But in the end, you've got Mookie Bets for twelve years,
who's just an absolutely unbelievable player. And I'm watching last
night and I'm like, I know, Aaron Judge is great,
but do the Dodgers have the two best players in
baseball between Mokie Betts and Shoheo Tani and Otani this year?
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You know he's not. He's d eight. So Mookie's given
you defense, he's given you offense, He's given you shortstop,
and it's just it's incredible. By the way, since the
Dodgers traded for him, I was looking at some numbers
this morning. Since the Dodgers traded for him, the Dodgers
have the most wins in baseball, the number one the
first run differential, the second best home run differential, the
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best team at ERA, and the Red Sox are seventeenth
or lower in all those categories. They let Great walk
out of the building. This guy's unbelievable shortstop, second, right field.
It's he'll play him either way. Since he arrived, he's
been top five in MVP voting, I think three or
four times. Also, he has one hundred and twenty four
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home rows in five hundred and forty four games. And
when you look at him, he's slight. He's not a
big guy. Oh Tawny and Aaron Judge, John Carlos Stanton.
Some of the guys in this sport look like home
run hitters. He reminds me a little bit of Joe Morgan,
although Morgan was a second baseman, left hand and smaller.
But you're always like, how does Joe Morgan generate all
that power?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
He's a little guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And he batted third for the big Red Machine. You
watch Mookie Betts and you're like, how how does he
generate all that power? He swung from the heels on
his first bat and kind of flopped over. He is
also a profoundly good bowler, so whether it's baseball or bowling,
he hovers around three hundred a lot. But it is
remarkable that you don't see great players moving into their
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prime traded very often. It's not like he was a disruptor.
He was wonderful in the clubhouse. Everybody loved Mookie Bets,
but they know the Red Sox financially, they had it
to get somebody to eat a big contract. And I
look up and I'm just like, that guy is unbelievable.
He has changed. I know we give a lot of
press to O Tawny, but Mooky Betts arrived. It just
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changed everything. And last night was his first game back.
He'd been out for a couple of months. They call
it a five tool player, but if he had personality
and leadership, he's probably a seven tool player. And his
first game he also had a RBI single. And just
the energy around him. He's always smiling. There's great energy.
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First guy up the steps, a dugout to greet somebody.
It's just watching him. Last night, I'm like, how in
the world did the Red Sox let him go, Babe
Ruth and Mookie Betts. And we don't talk a lot
of baseball on this show, but it's very rare when
you watch a sporting event. You see it in basketball
a lot and somebody jumps off the screen. That's like,
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you know, a t O when he was an NFL player,
was so big and strong for a wide receiver, he
like jumped off the TV screen. Lebron's like that. Shaq
was like that. You watch a baseball game with Mookie
Betts and even at its pace, which is slow, just
if he he's involved in a play. Who's that guy?
Who is that guy? Mookie Betts returns for the Dodgers.
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So the Aaron Rodgers book, I'm about seventy percent through it.
It is It is a lot. I was watching an
interview this morning with Aaron on a New York morning show,
and you know, he's just he's just prickly. He just
you know, and he's one of these people that believes
increasingly that he's a truth teller, like Elon Musk views
(12:29):
himself as that, even though his platform often has to
put underneath one of his tweets, yeah this is not true.
His own company is like, Yeah, the guy who owns
us is just making crap up. But he views himself
as sort of Aaron, as sort of a truth teller.
I do my own homework. It's Elon Musk. We have
a presidential candidate like that. We've got podcasters like that.
I am the one giving you the real story. I've
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done my own homework. And he comes across complex. He
can be sweet, he can be thoughtful. There's a lot
to unpack, and I'll give you more thoughts on that
book because there's one thing to defend Aaron Rodgers. There
is one element of that book where I found myself
for about thirty minutes feeling sorry for Aaron Rodgers. And
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one of the things he went through. It's Ian O'Connor
wrote the book. It is called Out of the Darkness,
The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. He was going to write
a Lebron book and he said, you know people had
come out and written Lebron books. And the one reason
he wrote it was because of the mystery around Aaron Rodgers.
And when you read this book, there are a lot
of layers on the onion appeal. I mean, there is
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there's a lot to appeal his great grandfather who looks
like Aaron. The first chapter is incredible. I mean, in
a fighter pilot enemy territory, like Aaron's life story is
a mile deep and a mile wide. And we'll get
to that next.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, welcome back. I got to talk about this
Nick Wright top of next hour, Mark Fugh, Michael Rubin.
So there's this book out a friend of mine, I O'Connor,
who's written, you know, the Derek Jeter book, Captain Belichick.
He's as good as anybody in this business as writing
a book that goes a mile deep. So he chose
Aaron Rodgers. He was in New York. Aaron had come
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to town and he wrote a book called Out of
the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Interviewed over five
hundred people. You can tell there's just so many areas here.
Aaron admits that he wishes he would have been more
upfront with a vaccine, but you know, there was a
lot of reactions from a lot of people with vaccines.
I can't hold it against anybody, nor should I in
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my position. You know, I will tell you you start
to get a little greater understanding. I mean, obviously when
you go deep with anybody. Aaron's very complex. He can
be petty, he can be co he can be kind,
he can be sweet, he can be thoughtful, He's incredibly loyal,
and then he can ghost you. And so there's that.
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I have two major takeaways, maybe three. Number one is
Aaron was being hazed for the first three four years
in this organization. The packers front office was trapped with
an old bitter Brett Farv, who was territorial and insecure,
and Aaron was the golden boy. And he was good looking,
he was cocky, and he was smarter than Farv, and
he let him know it. And he had a ton
of talent. And Brett was a little beat up. You know,
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Brett never missed a start, and Brett was stubborn. But
Brett was also hunt fish guy, get on a tractor guy,
gunslinger guy. That plays very well in Green Bay, small town.
Everybody's hunting and fishing in that area. And Aaron's you know,
he's kind of a Hollywood looking guy with a bit
of a chip on his shoulder to begin with some
of these problems. You know, he kept poking Farv in
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the ribs and Mike McCarthy in the ribs and got
called out for it. So it's not all against Aaron.
But there's chunks in this book that I was upset, like,
I was like mad how Aaron was being treated, And
he deserves a lot of credit for fighting through it.
You had a front office that wasn't upfront with him.
The town wouldn't let go. It's like a high school town.
They wouldn't let go of the love quarterback you had.
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Farv was territorial. It was a lot and Aaron deserves
a ton of credit putting his head down and just
fighting through it deserves a ton of credit.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It was almost like Farv in Green Bay were getting
a divorce and Aaron was the new girlfriend and nobody
liked her. That's what it felt like. The second thing
it made me think about is I wonder how Aaron
Rodgers would have done if he'd ha gone to like
a Buffalo or Kansas City or a Detroit or somewhere
else instead of the smallest town in the league. And
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I think, no, Green Bay was perfect. And the reason
I think Green Bay was perfect Aaron's got so much
in his head he's thinking about stuff most people don't,
is that he needed quiet and Green Bay's quiet. The
last thing Aaron needed was San Francisco and La or
New York. He can handle it now, maybe, but Aaron
was battling so much stuff. He needed a place to
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sort of like just be into football. It's quiet, it's
not chaotic, although the late Far years felt chaotic by
Green Bay standards. But I think Green Bay's the perfect
place for him. That they really did eventually fall in
love with him. It's the only game in town. And
they gave him out after that far mess. They gave
him the love that he had earned and deserved. And
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the other thing I take away from this book is,
and I've said this about Michael Jordan and Tom Brady,
there's a reason so few people are super successful. It's
damn hard. I was last night having dinner with a
friend who's a very popular chef in Los Angeles, very talented,
and it's just hard all the time. And Aaron Rodgers
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is smart. I mean you find out very quickly high
school college he was different, like he was really talented.
I mean, Josh Allen got overlooked by a lot of people.
People knew Aaron was great, Like they figured it out
very quickly. The junior college coaches like, I've never seen
a player like that. Cal knew he was great the
Pac twelve. You know, people in the NFL knew he
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was great. And he dropped in the draft for a
lot of reasons. Some of it was he could be
off putting with his personality, little cocky. Some of it
was teams back then, you know, didn't not many teams
needed quarterbacks that year, and after he didn't get like
number one pick, a lot of teams just didn't need
a quarterback. So but Aaron's a great example, good looking, smart,
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super talented, very early, went to a great organization. And
it's still that tunnel Andy dufrain went through in Shawshank redemption.
I mean it is it is. There are years in
there with that Brett farvn Packer situation. It's Andy Dufrayne
stuff and the fact that Andy and Aaron Rodgers came
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out of that stuff little dirty. It made me like
Aaron because some of the stories I'd heard. It made
me like Aaron Moore respect him more the crab. I
didn't didn't like Brett Farrv at all in the book necessarily.
Jeff Pearlman also wrote Gunslinger. So I heard a lot
of these stories or read a lot of these stories before,
but this was this book was all about Aaron, not
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about far And it also Aaron digs his own holes,
like you know, he would do things and McCarthy had
to call him out because he did stuff that people
shouldn't do if you're the quarterback of the team, and
he said stuff to Brett Farv that you got to
do better. I mean, he's a legend, but it encompasses
a lot, and I had a lot of feelings, and
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the feelings were he basically went through three to four
years of hazing. Brett farr was incredibly territorial. Green Bay
in the end, I think is the perfect place to
create that chip on his shoulder Aaron, as my wife says,
Aaron is balanced. He has a chip on bow shoulders.
And it just illustrates again, if you're Michael Jordan or
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you're Aaron Rodgers, there's a reason so few people are
super successful. It's really hard. That's for the good looking,
great guys, right that's for the guys that are stylish
and look like they should be in movies and and
are brilliant and are dominating. It's still so hard to
be at the top of the mountain. Here's j Mack
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with a news.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No tarn on the news. This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
All right, sir, Let's stick with the Packers Colum, because
they have yet to find a bona fide number one
wide receiver since losing DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
But that didn't hurt Jordan Love were the Packers last season.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Love ranks second in the NFL and with thirty two
passing touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Matt Lafleur was asked.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
About who would be the number one option this season,
and here's what he had to say.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I want to vombent. Every time I hear number one receiver,
to be honest with it drives me crazy. That's something
that you guys talk about. Well, I feel like we
got a bunch of them. I think the beauty of
them is they're all capable of doing many things, which
gives us a lot of versatility from an offensive perspective
in terms of how we use these guys and deploy
their talents, especially those I would say top four guys.
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They're all capable of being a number one in some capacity.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, I think we've discussed this. I think it's the
most overstated position in the pro football, which is the
need for a number one receiver. And it's really nonsense.
Is that Brady I mean, Edelman was his favorite target,
but often it was Gronk in the red zone. And
the one time he had a number one receiver, Randy Moss.
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They didn't win a Super.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Bowl, but I mean, come on, they were undefeated. They
were one of the great teams in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, but Tyreek Hill leaves and Mahomes is a better quarterback.
And I think number one receivers come with ego. They
can with their high maintenance. They want the ball, and
it's I just don't think they're necessary. I really don't.
I would rather have It's not like baseball, where if
I go into a five or seven game series and
I get Justin Verland or Clayton Kershaw and their prime
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I have two w's. If I had four number two's
and no number one and they're all just complimenting each other,
I would take that in a day over a great one,
and then I have like not really a two, A
couple threes, give me balance. I don't know who is
Puka Nakua or Cooper Cup number one. It doesn't matter.
Get open on third down, That's all I care about.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
I wanted to disagree with you, but you're on my
take here. Now let me ask you packers. I'm just
gonna name their top four receivers last year. You want
to guess who led them in receptions. There's Christian Watson,
Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reid, and dun Tavian Wicks.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, I think Jaden Reid is the one that looks
like he's really emerging a. Watson is the big guy
that runs well but struggles to stay healthy and stay healthy.
Dobbs had a drop issue early. I think he's really
talented as well. And the last guy you named again,
they also have very serviceable tight ends. Yeah, who was
their number one?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
So Jaden Reid led them in receptions, Dobbs led them
in first downs and targets, Watson's the game breaker, and
Wix like came out of nowhere, Like, I think this
is going to be potentially a new model. Hey, we're
not paying all the money to Devonte Adams. I'd rather
have picks and disperse them that way. Well, yeah, Kisas
City's doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
People are confusing the need for receivers, which you do
need weapons, but they're even gms in the league are
confusing the need for receivers with a need for a
number one receiver. And I just don't think it's necessary.
I mean, it's great if you have a Jamar Chase.
It's less great when I pay him thirty four million
a year.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, Buffalo has now decided we're going to go that route.
We don't have a number one this season. That's fine.
We're gonna go with the tight end sets obviously in
the running back.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
But because of what these receivers are demanding in the market,
I think we're going to see some teams copy this.
I'm in to see what shakes out with because he
we think is a number one, right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think he's in number one, and in certain ecosystems
like New England, he would be absolutely elevating the team.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
But no way he would be Devanta Adams with the Raiders, like,
I'll put up good numbers, but we're gonna stink, right.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And I just I think if you have like if
T Higgins left the Bengals, eventually, Okay, I'll double Jamar Chase.
It's much harder to double Jamar Chase now when I've
got T. Higgins on the other side. So it's again
the Randy Moss New England years. The numbers were great
in the regular season. But think about this too, when
do you decide champions in the NFL outdoors in January
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and February. You better have a strong arm quarterback because
it's windy and cold. Even the Randy Moss years September
and October, early November, Randy's putting up big numbers. You
start facing the best coordinators, the best corners, the wins
crappier tyreek Hill is wonderful in the regular season. Yeah,
with to his arm, what's he going to do in
January when he's at Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You know how you your financial advisor and he goes
over your portfolio and he might say, hey, you're way
too heavy in stock weighted here, you're too much in
real estate. It's like the Miami Dolphins right now. They're
all in crypto right all offense and receivers and quarterback,
and it's like you can't win a Super Bowl with
Tyreek and Waddell and Tuoa being your three guys.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
There's no balance.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It's in the NFL. You don't have to be great
or even very good everywhere. You have the coaching so good,
you have to avoid being awful anywhere, like like like
you like when even the Chiefs, when the O line
was awful because of injuries, got blown out in the
Super Bowl. You can't be awful anywhere the coaching is
too good. In college, you can be awful and people
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can't take advantage of it.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You can hide your awfulness right so like, but not
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, I don't know where the Packers awful colin the
defense last year, but and the defense coordinator was was
not great.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, but I would and I don't have the numbers
in front of me. They don't generate a consistent pass rush.
That is just off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
You got a lot of number ones on the defense
you're starting getting.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
They don't miss much. They don't miss on offense much
at all. I don't know where they were in sacks,
but I felt like watching Packer games, the pass rush
was inconsistent body at best.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'll just say this and I've got some of the numbers,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Being away for the weekend, I was able to look
the Aaron Jones factors being underplayed, like he was a
big time stud for them, the Packers last year.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
When he was healthy.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know, they have very very good Now they don't.
They have Jacobs now.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You like him.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
You see what he did last season after getting paid
by the Raiders, winning that battle.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Something to think about.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
All right, Let's move on to Tua and the Dolphins too.
Obviously got paid four years, two hundred twelve million. He
set highs for his career in completion percentage, yards and
twenty nine touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Tyreek Hill believes that too, it could be even better.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
That's gonna be scary this year, man. I can see
a lot of improvements in OOS's game. Man. He'd done
a tremendous job on you know, just really honing in
on his craft like each and every offseason and then
obviously like calling us like me and Wado and some
of the other guys to come work out with him.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Man.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
So it's been a beautiful thing, man, like each and
every year, just to be a part of his whole development.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
From year one, I've been with him to year three,
like I can.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
I can say that this year, like I'm gonna call
my shot, like he can be an MVP candidate once
again and even win the thing man because he's just
that nice.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
We'll see, I'll put up some numbers, right, we agree
that the defense ain't stoping. Nobody's gonna have to score.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, I was saying this last week. Is in whereas
a guy like Dak who's made a lot of money
no state tax cowboys have helped him get huge endorsements,
I would sign more of a team friendly deal with
Jalen Hurtzer to us smaller guys had injuries. I'd take
whatever I could get. And it's different, you know, mahomes
take a little less, win more rings. He's also making
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forty million in endorsements. There's a lot of different ways
to make money in the NFL. Brady took less, but
now he's an icon. Signs with Fox five minutes after
he retires for all that money. And so with Tua,
I do think they're trapped a little. Tua needs to
take the most money and he did because he just
you don't know if it's gonna last, and so it's
not one size fits all in the NFL. Where I
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will defend to is Tua should not do necessarily a
team friendly deal because his body is not built for
twelve years in this league, Jalen Hurts has been I
always feel like Jalen Hurts is not one hundred percent.
Jalen should take the most he can get. But what's
interesting with two. I think when you have these injuries
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and his lack of size, the downside is you can't
play the long game. You got to take the most
you can get, and that's what they did, and so
I think eventually it will potentially limit some of their
personnel moves because they have so much money in two
and now in the receivers they're lobsided.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
The final story is the Dallas Cowboys AH this offseason
and drama continues well. Vegas has their win total at
ten and a half. We've talked about how their favorites
in like thirteen games. According to one sportsbook, though colin
Dallas has the most under money wagered of any NFL
team wopping ninety three percent of the money is on
the under which is now juiced to minus two hundred.
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So you got to pay up if you want to
bet the under on the Cowboys. I guess a lot
of people have been watching the show going and betting
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Ten and a half. I can't go over on ten
and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For sure, No way.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The other thing is there's so much more accessible information
for fans, and fans were awful betting games twenty years ago.
Fans are much better at betty games. There's more information
and they know where to get it, and there's more
handicappers like professional people that do this for a living
that can give you information. When you look at that
Dallas schedule, it's not the toughest schedule in the league.
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There's a lot of breaks in it. Anytime you have
the Giants in it, it's a break. But it doesn't
you don't get to me. The Dallas schedule is really important.
The first two weeks, if they beat Cleveland and the Saints,
they're on their way. But it's Baltimore week three, and
and then it's Detroit San Francisco. I'm here to tell
you that at Atlanta game, Atlanta's Atlanta's going to be.
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Then it's Philadelphia, then it's Houston. So for Dallas to me,
they have got to get to a fast start, because
there's some real potholes starting in about week six.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I just you know, I don't want to go back
to the Dak thing. But you just said, like I
don't know three minutes ago. You know, Dak could take
a team friendly deal and colin the way this Dallas
offseason has gone, So Mike McCarthy is suddenly on the
hot seat and they're like, oh, he's won twelve game three.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Years in a row, but he's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Dak Prescott has was runner up for MVP last year,
and it's like, ah, we don't want to pay.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Him, and it's like, what's going on here? What are
we missing?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Like Dak has been a loyal quarterback for that franchise,
a perfect podium guy as you like to say. He's
a great faith of the franchise. All he does is win,
and now Dallas doesn't want to pay him.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
No, Dallas doesn't want to pay him what Dak wants.
They want to build the PAM. It's just a it's
just a game. And I think, and there's also this
narrative out there that the Cowboys are so poorly run.
No they're not. When's the last time. The Cowboys were
bad in back to back seasons. They underachieve late. They're
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not poorly run. They draft pretty well. They found they
found a lot. Look at their first round picks. I
mean they got Dak in the fourth round. Micah Ceedee
Lammer home runs. Dallas is not poorly run. I tend
to think it's they run like the Lakers. There. It's
a big business run like a local general store, you know.
I mean the Lakers hire Kobe's agents, their general manager,
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and people close to Genie buss or in the front office.
That's fine. The Cowboys are the same thing. They don't
let enough eyes outside of the building parcels and Jimmy
Johnson they'd tell you what you didn't want to hear,
and they let them go. Jason Garrett was more of
felt like the family. And so I don't think the
Cowboys are poorly run. I do think they are over
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loyal to their draft picks because of Jerry's ego at
validates his draft picks. Okay, but but when I ever
I hear the Cowboys Dak should take every penny. They're
poorly run. No, Dak inherited the best offensive line in football,
you know, who drafted those guys, Jerry Jones, so he
also inherited the best running back in football. I mean,
so let's not make it out the Cowboys are poorly run.
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They have now become, I think, very insular, and they're
incredibly top heaf, top heavy.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
But the Rams are top heavy when they won the
Super Bowl, yes they were. Now they were better. Staff
are better than Dak. But I don't know, I just
maybe we're over exaggerating three tough playoff losses the Packers. No,
so stinks the forty nine ers losses. You're losing great
teams in the forty nine ers. And then there was
the des Bryant, you know, the fumble against the Packers.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Like, yeah, maybe they're closer than we think.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
No, not really, Okay. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
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Speaker 1 (34:16):
All right, this is breaking news. JJ McCarthy, who had
a really nice debut against the Raiders, ran the ball. Well.
He has a torn meniscus in his right knee, according
to his coach, Kevin O'Connell. And they don't know how
extensive the surgery is. But JJ McCarthy the quarterback out
of Michigan. The meniscus tear. He's not going to start
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early in the season. They don't know yet how long
he'll be sidelined. Generally, young athletes, especially, they return much
faster than you think, so it doesn't say season ending injury.
I think it puts Sam Donald was going to start anyway.
I think JJ McCarthy made everybody feel like it was
closer than we previously predicted. But Sam Donald's the quarterback.
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So you know, we talked about this all the time.
Sixty quarterbacks played last year, and so when people freak
out that the Falcons drafted Michael Pennix and got Kirk Cousins,
Minnesota's already out one of their best quarterbacks. We're one
preseason game in, they're already down one quarterback. So the
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best problem in the NFL to have is we've got
a loaded quarterback room. You can deal with it. So
he looked good. You know, all these quarterbacks I have
different feelings about. I think Caleb is the only one
good enough in this draft to overcome a bad coach,
bad coordinator. He'll still be productive. I think everybody else
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needs something. I think Sean Payton is really important for
bow Nicks. He could not overcome a bad old line
or a bad defensive coach. JJ McCarthy feels like he
needs the right coach and the right fit. He's not
big enough, strong enough, you know, he's not that. I
think the draft has one super talent and then you're
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gonna be as successful as the situation you're placed in.
Even Jayden Daniels, who I like, is pretty slight. That
Bill's not going to take a beating. So they've got
a they got their quarterback, they got the coaching staff.
They got to get the on line right and protect him.
So there you go. Sam Darnold's gonna play and start
a week one without a doubt. Here's the other thing.
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I I was thinking about Justin Fields, and I think
JJ McCarthy isn't as physically gifted as Justin Fields, but
he's probably a better prospect. When he went to Pittsburgh,
I had said that, you know, he's not great enough
to overcome the wrong coach or the wrong coordinator or
a bad old line. But the Pittsburgh thing, after watching
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this weekend, it's I'm trying to talk myself into Justin Fields,
and every time I watch him I see the same thing,
and it does show you why so many scouts and
general managers make mistakes on players, because you fall in
love with talent. He just doesn't see the field, he
doesn't recognize defenses, whatever it is. It's way too hard
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and I was thinking about this this morning as we
were prepping for the show. I'm not sure Pittsburgh is
a great place for him. Here's the one thing Mike
Tomlin does not do well, and it's not arguable develop
offensive lines. He just doesn't. I mean, if you go
look at the best offensive lines in the NFL last year,
for the top five had offensive coaches at the time Falcons, Philly, Colts,
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and Lions. I don't think it's a coincidence. McVeigh, Andy Reid,
Matt Lafleur in Green Bay, Sean Payton in one off
season fixed mostly fixed the Denver offensive line. How long
before Buffalo can get a great offensive line outside a
left tackle. It's been like nine years. It feels like
it's still mediocre. Josh Allen's still running for his life.
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Pittsburgh ten straight drafts under Mike Tomlin. They didn't take
an offensive lineman in the first or second round and
yet during that stretch they took five linebackers and overwhelmingly
defensive players as the league was pivoting to offense. And
that's just Mike Tomlin. That's what he's comfortable with. That's
what he knows. Now. The Steelers have always drafted wide
receivers well, but they can't get the O line right.
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And they went into the OD line again this year.
So I kind of look at justin Fields and he
is just not good enough to succeed unless he's got
the right coordinator and the right protection. He holds on
to the ball too long. I mean, he gets sacked
a lot, so did Zach Wilson. For a guy that
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can move, Like when you think guys that get sacked,
you'd be like, well, Kirk Cousins or Jared Goff, not really,
they get rid of the ball. Brady, he'll get say
didn't move.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Tom got rid of it really quickly in red defenses.
So I don't know how well it's gonna work. But
as I was watching him this week, and I'm like,
I just feel like it's just it's harder than it
should be. Just taking the snap. It's just harder than
it should be. And I'm not sure it's a great fit.
Here's Mike Tomlin on Justin Field's fumbling issue on their
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game Friday against Houston.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
I thought he did some nice things, but obviously he
was a component of the CQ exchange, and from my perspective,
that's dual responsibility on the center end the quarterback. I'm
indicated a lot of good things going on in those
first couple of drives, you get behind the change, particularly
at the early stages, before you gain real cohesion and
have enough of a menu to get you out of
them circumstances, you're dead group, and so the SEQ exchanges
(39:32):
were an issue.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, it's justin Fields. I always feel like he takes
a big step forward and then two back he'll take
a sack, he's holding onto the ball, he'll funble a step.
It's his Like Tom Pelisarro said it yesterday his YouTube
highlight reel, it looks like he's the best player in
the league, but a lot of steps back and God,
Pittsburgh just can't get the O line right. And they've
(39:56):
drafted good player that got guys I like, but the
Ohesian they're running game despite two backs that I think
are good is always to me hit and miss Sunday
to Sunday. So we'll see Nick Wright topping next hour
stops by. Also, Dion Sanders is not happy with where
(40:16):
his team has been picked. And and I was looking
the Dallas Cowboys today, according to Forbes, became the first
franchise in league history worth ten billion dollars? Is that
Sportico who came up with that? Not Forbes? Ten billion?
(40:38):
They're the first. Won't believe who's second.
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