August 14, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin celebrates the near return of college football after a report about increased ticket sales and interest due to conference realignment
Thoughts on the ratings for the Olympics and why Women's US Basketball saw less viewership
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome in live in Los Angeles. It's the Hurt. Wherever
you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. A lot going on,
very exciting show. Jmac, I'm gonna do a little story.
I'm gonna tell a little story. And I've told this.
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I think I wrote about this in one of my books,
but I want to I want to tell a little
story about years and years ago. My first job out
of college was in Vegas, and I sat down. I
don't play video poker. I don't play poker at all,
little blackjack, So I sat down. Union Plaza was the casino,
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and it's going to take a few minutes. So I'm
in Vegas, out of college, starving, and my boss at
the time, Dawn was his name. He took me to
a big sales call but he said, it's like the
vice president of the casino. And he said, you're like
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an intern. You know, you're like fresh out of college.
So you stay down here. And you know, it was noon,
so I ordered a diet coke and I sat, you know,
talking to the bartender, not drinking. And I sat next
to a guy who had just sold ten twenty TV
radio stations, a Texan Arkansas, Texas guy. He looked like
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the Marlborough Man, looked like he had a lot of money,
white shirt, good looking, square job, his watch costs more
than my car. And over the course of time, at
like thirty minutes, I was just kind of like trying
to start up conversation. I was very annoying, even more
so than now. And I said, I asked about his
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life story, and he was waiting for somebody to come
pick him up, and they were late, so he was
just sitting there playing it and looking out at the
kind of the valet. And I asked for advice. I said,
you've obviously a very successful guy. Played to his vanity
a little bit and I said, uh, give me some advice.
I'm like twenty one year old kid from rural Washington
now in Vegas in sales. I want to do play
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by play, and you know, he went on and on
and on, and he talked about, you know, there's there's
kind of two types of people. And he gave me
an example. And this was at a time where a
million dollars was a lot. This is like thirty five
years ago, see sixty almost forty years ago. I remember
it very I remember what he was wearing, very tanned,
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looked like he'd vacationed a lot in his life, but
worked hard. And he said, you know, there's kind of
two types of people. And do a test. Tell somebody, uh,
I just made a million dollars, and see how they react.
He goes, there's two types of people. They'll be like, wow,
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how'd you do it? And they want to be part
of something new and fun and exciting. And then half
the people will go, no, you didn't, Yeah right, sure,
and dejectedly walk off. He goes, you don't want to
be around those people. You want to be around people
that want to be part of something fun and new
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because life's changing. And I always remember that conversation. Some
people just want to go to the country club and
hang out with the same guys every night and complain
about life and play bridge. That's fine. I have tried
to surround myself with young people, part of something new
and fun. Don't be threatened by change. Don't be threatened
by new join the party. Not everything new is great,
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but don't be negative of all the time. And I
think about this because I saw this last night. I
sent it to my producer Ryan. The college football season
preview from stub Hub shows forty two that's not a
small number. Forty two percent growth in ticket sales and
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college football this season forty two percent, most of it
fueled by the new matchups created by conference realignment. Aren't
you kind of embarrassed? Old guy playing bridge tonight? N
I l pack twelve conference realignments the end of times.
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I'm exhausted for you politics, sports, terrified of anything new. Smile,
Embrace something that's a challenge. You could fail at pack
twelve stadiums. I grew up with them. Cal against Washington
State it's empty. You know what won't be Oregon against
Ohio State, Penn State. USC stadiums won't be empty. The
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nil Well, yeah, why not pay the players? Everybody else
is getting rich? How about the employees making a little money,
transfer portal. Five of the last seven Heisman winners are transfers.
It's not the end of the world. The guys transferring
are just like you, transferring for a better job, more respect,
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little better pay. That's why we all transfer in life.
It's just not called a portal. I'm not trying to
lecture you, but the constant, perpetual negativity and fear of change.
Forty two percent growth in ticket sales, mostly because of
conference realignment Texas Oklahoma to the Sez, Oregon, Washington, SCUCLA
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to the Pack to the Big Ten. It's exhausting. New
stuff is fun. Think about this. Only fifteen college football
programms of one hundred what thirty five Division I programs
in the last decade, only fifteen made the playoffs. That's
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just not inclusive enough. Invite new people to an occasional party.
Let your wife make the list, right, Let her invite
some people you don't know, not the same old guys
playing bridge. I was told to transfer portal Christian McCaffrey
skipping a bowl game. The nil conference realignment it was
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going to rue in the sport. I've never in my
life been more excited for college football. I cannot wait.
Week zero starts in what pen days? How can you
not be excited about it? Oregon hosting Ohio State Penn
State USC. You don't have to wait once a decade
for a Rose Bowl matchup Michigan USC like week two?
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How are you not excited? I did for that? Do not?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Mister Rogers used to have a saying, he said, whenever
you're a little kid. He used to talk to kids
and say, find the helpers, Like if something happens you
lose your mom in a department store, find the helpers
in life. Find that fifty percent of the crowd that
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that rich cowboy at the Union Plaza in Vegas told
me about. Find the fifty percent that want to join
something new and fun and different. It's a better life,
it's a happier life. Not trying to lecture, but college
football is going to explode this year. Join the party.
Don't complain about it? All right, So there's no reason
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to thump our chest on this. But you know you've
heard of the gold medal count, right, the gold medal count?
How out the television official count? The ratings are in
Everything exploded in Paris, with one exception, Women's basketball. The
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ratings couldn't even beat the Tokyo Olympics that happened during COVID.
The men's with fading old stars Lebron Katie Steph got
twenty million viewers, overdoubled the last Olympics. And it's Lebron
and Steph and Katie. It's the old guys. People couldn't
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get enough. Break dancing was a hit, and yet the
women who won gold attendance down, ratings flat. How everything
else exploded because there was a giant wave in women's
college basketball and they forgot their surfboard. Only Caitlin Clark,
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but Angel Reese and Caitlin should have been on this team.
Women's basketball had a moment and they couldn't meet it.
The reality is they got too insular. They're too loyal
to the niche women's basketball media. Stop it ruffle feathers.
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Who cares if you leave a couple of talented, albeit
not that popular players off for Caitlin Clark, Team USA
left Jalen Brown off this team and Isaiah Thomas on
another team and put in Christian Ladner. Isaiah still pissed
about it, Get over it. They won the goal best
team ever probably this was a moment, and I'm not
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here to lecture. We won. As I say on Mondays often,
you know where Colin was right.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Where Colin was very right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I was very right. But it no need to
bang on women's basketball. This is a teaching moment. Is
that you've heard of that saying a disruptor like Caitlin
Clark was the disruptor. Connor McGregor kind of ended boxing.
Nobody wanted to watch boxing, and Dana White lean into it. Yes,
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sometimes Connor was inappropriate and did dumb things, and Bryce
Harper fought with teammates. But when you get these moments,
here comes the wave. Grab your surf forward, ride it.
Don't get don't get insular, don't get precious. Don't lecture
us that we didn't watch the sport. Everything in Paris
exploded except women's basketball. And now the Premier League starts Friday.
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College football ten days out. Dodgers Yankees will headline a
very interesting baseball postseason, NFL preseason, and the WNBA. It'll
be off the agenda. I spent all summer talking women's basketball.
It's crazy. We were like this amazing, this is fascinating.
Caitlin Clark is Taylor Swift and sneakers. And now it's over.
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Nobody's gonna care, so there's no reason to pound our
chest or lecture. But it was a moment, it was
your time. Well, we only had a few practices. Christian
Leitner wasn't even in the NBA yet this was it. Anecdotally,
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I watched twelve minutes of the women's team the Japan game.
They had one player over six to one, and I
thought they're going to cruise, and they mostly did one
close game, but breakdancing exploded. This should have been This
should have been the Olympics of Katie Ledecki, Simone Biles
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and the women's basketball team, and it was the only
thing that was flat or down from Tokyo. Caitlin Clark
now trying to drum up interest in the Yankee Booth
recently over the weekend talking about not being picked.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think in time, it gives you something to work
for and obviously it's a tough turnaround. You know, they
played ten games in the WNBA before they picked the roster,
so that team is so talented. I think the USA
on the women's side is just so dominant. But it's definitely,
definitely something for me to work for a twenty twenty
eight and obviously that's in LA so that would be
a fun first opportunity for myself.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles, they will crush.
That's four years down the road. That's not the moment.
The WNBA was just flying regular commercial flights like you
and I Caitlyn arrive. They now have a two year
deal for their own flights. This was it. This was
the moment. They always say in real estate it's all location.
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They always say in business it's all about timing. You
had both Paris was the location, and the timing was now,
and you left your surfboards at home. All right, we
got stuff today. We got a lot of stuff. Aaron
Rodgers man, he's on New York Radio yesterday, getting all
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prickly the fascinating moment where he was talking about the
Malaysian airliner. You weren't.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You weren't pining for Aaron Rodgers thoughts on the missing airliner.
You weren't waiting on pins and needles for that one.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Colin, he's half quarterback, half podcaster.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I like how you laugh about the Jets and then
point at me like a look at that you gots
a fan of the Jets.
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
So if you went to a restaurant, let's say three
or four times and the service and the quality he
was not great, you would stop going to the restaurant
like most of us. Right. Or if you if you
bought a car from a dealership and it was a
bit of a lemon, you got another one happened again,
you'd probably stop buying cars from that dealership. Uh And
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And I've always said this about Los Angeles sports fans.
They're picky and they have options in life. It's sunny,
the beach, the mountains, it's LA hiking trails everywhere. If
a team's not good, fans bail. I respect it. They've
got options. It also is a reason LA teams are
all good, because owners know they can't take advantage of them. People.
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This is not Cleveland. People have a life. It's not Cincinnati.
There's a lot to do. You don't have to stay
indoors and watch TV in the summer. It's not that humid.
You don't have to stay indoors in the winter. It's
not snowing. People have options. I mean, Dean Spanos knew
I got to go get hardball. I had dinner with it.
We talked about it. He knew he didn't want to
he didn't want to disappear. The Rams are ascending. The
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Lakers had to get lebron ad. They're constantly changing their roster,
whether it works or not. I mean, USC fired their
entire defensive staff. I mean they won eleven games, they
won eight games. They're on their way now. They had
to get rid of their I mean multiple the whole staff.
Why Dodgers ohways elevating. They were good before Mookie and
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Freddie Freeman. You gotta get them. There's too many things.
And I respect the fact LA gets banged on because
they don't love They don't love their cheap Dodgers lead
Major League Baseball attendance by like seven thousand a game,
SOFI Stadium's packed. But the bottom line is, if you're
not good, fans bail. There's a standard here. It's an
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entertainment city. We got stuff to do, we got options.
Vegas is a forty minute flight away, so is Scottsdale.
La Malibu, Laguna. I respect it. I respect fans that
say no enough, you're not gonna use me. I demand
better ownership, gms, better coaches, quarterbacks. I respect that you
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wouldn't be loyal to any other thing in your life
that treated you like crap. And so Aaron Rodgers, let's
be frank, he went from the penthouse green Bay last
thirty years. Nobody does offense as consistently as green Bay,
regardless of the quarterback. Jordan Love, Aaron Farvre to the Jets, Rex, Ryan,
Todd Bowles, Adam Gase, Robert Sala. Offense is a you know,
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bring you the triangle. You see glimpses of it. It
disappears right like it doesn't exist, regardless of the coach.
And so, but Aaron on WFA and putting, you know,
painting a nice picture of the Jets who have such
incredibly high standards.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Here it is we realize that success and failure is
not binary wins or losses. You know, as a mindset,
it's going out there and willing to put your best
on the line, knowing that's not going to be good
enough in a win loss matrix. Every single time. Now,
I've been fortunate enough to play for two organizations that
set us stand out of excellence. Not hey, let's just
have a pretty good season, you know, No, let's be
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the best. And I think that's the less you want
to play it, and you don't want to play in
a city where they're just so excited to, you know,
win a few games every year.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's what the Jets are. That's precisely what the Jets are.
They were third in the NFL and attendance last year
and pathetic. Seventy eight thousand fans, that's what the Jets average.
That's top of the league. That's like top three. And
they haven't made the playoffs in thirteen years and they
haven't been interesting offensively in longer than that. That's what
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the Jets are. They have low standards, they sell out
the stadium, and the team's pathetic, I mean being I
used to work with a guy Greenie. His whole shtick
was why do I put myself through this? That's a
Jet fan. We have Jet fans in the building here.
Why do I put myself through this? Good question? They
don't in LA They just don't go to the games.
I mean, the Jets fans are are the They're at
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the bottom, and they keep on digging seventy eight thousand
fans every Sunday, and they're forget losing no playoffs thirteen years.
They're not interesting. Who's been worse offensively for thirteen years
consistently than the Jets. I'm honestly, I'm scratching my head. Bears,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean eight straight season a pack stadium to watch
a below five hundred team. They're not even competitive bolow
five hundred and can't score. I respect the Lions or
the Falcon fans or the Raider fans. It said, enough
is enough. They don't embrace pathetic and we got to
be honest about this. When Brady left New England, I
got it. Belichick was increasingly rigid. They couldn't draft skill players,
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and he had accomplished. I mean, he had a trophy
case of you know, stacked with Super Bowl trophies. When
Matt Stafford left the Lions, bad ownership, average coaches, wonky roster.
I got it. You know, Russell Wilson, by the way,
didn't want to leave Seattle. Pete wanted him out. I
got that. But leaving Green Bay, like, when's the last
time I had a bad offensive line or a bad
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receiving corps or casts in the front office. Like it's
the gold standard of small market American North American pro franchises.
The New York team stink in the NFL. They don't
in Green Bay. Well, they got rid of it, No
they didn't. Aaron got rid of himself. He got weird
and darkness, retreat and finicky and precious, and they just
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stayed within one more year. They didn't know what Jordan
Love was, so there's no way to sugarcoat it. Stafford
upgraded Brady, skill players, and control upgraded Russell Wilson didn't
want to leave Kirk Cousins with that old line in Atlanta,
you could argue, and those skilled players, that's a pretty
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good fit. This isn't a good this is going backwards.
But the idea that he went to a franchise with
high standards. The stick Jet fans, their stick is why
do I put myself through this? You don't have to
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
No, no, no, this is the herd line news.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I felt like that was personally directed at me, just
absolutely harsh. I mean, like, listen, when you say put
yourself through this, listen.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
I'm not like on the ground crying when.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The sho You don't. You're not that guy. You never
have been that guy. You almost laugh at the fact
that you're overly off to miss.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Well, I'm the most reasonable Jets fan on the planet.
That's the problem. I'm not like all in and I'm
not like we're the worst in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But my point in that rant was Aaron saying, Hey,
I didn't want to go to a city that was
just happy when in a few games. Well, if you're
averaging seventy eight thousand and you have been below five
hundred for eight straight, the fans are like, yeah, this
is what you're Basically, it's not like it's easy stadium
to get to or one of the great stadiums in
the league, or prices are cheap, or the offense is
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great and they lose shootout, you're just willing to ruin
your Sunday. You have as a franchise. Your standard is
let's fill the stadium and you know, probably came home
with a loss and you're okay with it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, I will say one thing. I actually was researching
the Packers last night. I'm going team by team every night.
That's my new thing, and the Jets have a better
offensive line this year than the Packers. The Packers' offensive
line is basically their biggest question on the team.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
You've done on this, but take a look. Pro Football
Focus doesn't even love their offensive line. I know you
big on them.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
They have a young quarterback who moves well and plenty
of weapons to get the ball too quickly in an
offensive coach, so I think they'll mitigate a lack of experience.
I'll go with they'll be able to mitigate a young front.
Not a bad front, but a young front.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Fair enough, let's start with Brandon Aiyuk gosh If Saga
has just continued to drag on more reports overnight that
this dealers have a deal in place for Auk. We've
been hearing this for a week now, but yet no
trade has been completed. According to NFL Works, Mike Garafalo,
San Francisco has not pulled the trigger because they aren't
far apart on agreeing to terms with a disgruntled receiver,
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adding he's heard that you could prefer to stay and
has always maintained that preference.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yes, Colin.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
This leverage play by a Yuke seems to be working,
but I can't get too worked up until I see
what the deal is. What was Pittsburgh offering If they're
offering two ones, there's no way that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We have made it very clear. We think he's better
off making a little less in staying with the Niners. Now,
if Pittsburgh, well, I mean if Pittsburgh offford him thirty
and the San Francisco offered him on an annual basis, seventeen,
go to Pittsburgh. Okay, yeah, that's forty go to Pittsburgh.
But if it's twenty one in San Francisco and twenty
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five in Pittsburgh, you will make it up at endorsements
hoisting a trophy, he'll.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Be close to, like twenty seven to twenty nine in
that range. Is he better than Amara Saint Brown?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I'maran Saint Brown is the perfect receiver. You didn't
have to play Pam initially, you finally do. He's highly
productive and is like the ultimate locker room guy. I
can't know. You don't get those very often. He's a
perfect player.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
People love Ayuk, but if I gave you Dj Moore,
Brandon Ayuk and I'm a Rossain Brown.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
You're basically like.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This same guy, very very exceptional.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
So I don't this Iyuk stuff. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Forty nine.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hey, listen, that's content, right, Brandon Ayuk. We've never talked
about him this much, even last season when he was.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
All very noisy off season.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
You're not a fan of noise?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Huh nop?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Is that why we don't hang out more? I am
a noisy one. I get excited get you've got a
lot of energy.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I do have a lot of energy, not not today
though I almost got coffee this morning.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
I was so low energy. I was like, I need.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Coffee, not me. I had some neuro gum there and
I am jumping through hoops walking down the hallway today.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
And if people are watching it home, it looks like
you got a bit of a new hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
There is it?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Is it something cooking?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Got a new hairstyle? Like combed it?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You coked it?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay? Nice?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
I good to see.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Let's move on to the Cowboys, who have had their
fair share of contract drama this offseason.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Dak and Michaeh Parsons are in camp, Cede Lamb is not.
Despite Lamb's absence, Michaeh.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Parsons is confident they'll be ready for the season opener,
saying CD knows he's not going anywhere. The business side,
They're going to take care of it, no doubt about it.
Week one he will be suiting up for the Dallas Cowboys, hope.
So I really don't I think everybody agrees.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking yesterday I was reading
the Aaron Rodgers book by Een O'Connor. Some must read.
It's just a great two day read for me.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Really, I must read Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I just thought it was fascinating. I think Aaron's a
very complex guy, and I.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Just can't even take twenty minutes of him on a podcast. Now,
you could read a whole book about him.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah. Yeah, well, Ian's books are.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Ian is excellent.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, but it was you know, I was sitting there
as I put it down and had a little dinner,
I was just thinking about teams in the NFL, and
I thought, if CEEDE. Lamb held out, is this a
Is this a hot take that Dallas would be one
of the five lowest scoring teams in the league. No,
I don't know who would move the chains. I mean,
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as a defensive coordinator Ceedee Lamb. My first order of business,
roll coverage over to Ceedee Lamb. I mean, that's what
you have to do. You don't have any fear of
their running backs. Their tight ends are good, slightly better
than average, but not special. If I would just say
roll coverage, the CD put heat on Dak and I
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don't know where they god that offense without Ceedee Lamb.
It's very rare that an NFL team or any business
gets trapped. The Cowboys aren't trapped. You can live without
Michael Parsons because DeMarcus Lawrence. They've got a pass rush.
MICUs obviously makes it great, but they've got other pass rushers,
even Dak. They've won with Cooper rush. If Dak went
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down for a month, if Ceedee Lamb twists an ankle,
they couldn't score a touchdown against the Rams. Vanilla backups
with four interceptions couldn't get to the end.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Zone with four six is the preseason game.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But again it's preseason, but it's also Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Come on, an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's efficial. But for the record, it's preseason for everybody.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I think it's a little bit of a hot take.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay, you just start looking at offense. A lot of
offenses that we roll our eyes at, like the Bears
or the Bears offense now are stacked. All the Houston Texans. Oh,
actually they got Stefan Diggs. It's Joe Mixon. It's stacked.
Like a lot of these have notts offensively over the
last three years. Houston, Chicago, they got the quarterback, they
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got the weapons. Those are going to be top ten
scoring teams in the league. Houston and the Bears could
be top ten scoring teams for a decade. They were.
You know, it was like roll your eyes, Brock Osweiler's
rolling right. Those teams now are productive.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Final story is the NFL recently released their top one
hundred list. Number This was voted on by the players
last season. Well anyways, Tyreek Hill was number one, which
is a little bit insane. He was a little He
was ahead of Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey, and Patrick Mahomes,
who checked in at four, obviously making the list knowing void.
In a recent media appearance, Tyreek was asked if he
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is indeed better than Mahomes, and you wouldn't be surprised
what Tyreek Hill had to say.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Pat is great. He's great obviously for his team. You
feel me, like they want two back to back Super
Bowl YadA YadA. They did, they think right now, you
look at me, two back to back, seventeen hundred Pro Bowl,
All Pro, this that all decade, this consistency, all that. Man,
you feel me, And I'm doing this at five to
eight five, I'm gonna call myself, show it and No.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Five sel By one ninety. Come on, man, A lot
of people said, I come here, we see what here?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I am doing this? Yeah, okay, I think there'll be
a point when what he says about Mahomes, we just
will stop listening to. Like, I'm kind of over Tyreek
Hill and his football acumen. You left, they got better.
I'm done with it.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
They got better. They're still winning.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Mahomes is a better quarterback today because he doesn't get
the lollipop touchdowns. He's been forced and he's been great
to He can nibble death by a thousand cuts. I
think he's a much more efficient quarterback. He's taken a
little Joe Burrow into his game.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Maybe they test.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I mean, go look at this passing yards, passing touchdowns.
Since Tyreek Kell left come on first in the league.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Okay, real advanced stats say that he has not gotten
He was having his worst season last year and they
were stumbling.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, some of the not not counting yards.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
What are the advanced stats say about Miami's January? Didn't
you check those out? The advanced stats on a team
that can advance those status, those stats are fast. Here's
my advance stats for Kansas City. Oh, they won again
in January. They're advancing again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Need the Chiefs to go down.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
But you know how they say about boxers, He's the
best pound for pound in the world. They say that
about boxers. I think Tyreek Kills probably pound for pound best.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Player in the league. Good art, would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah? And let's say there was a flyweight that was
pound for pound the best fighter. Could he beat Lennox Lewis? Yeah,
so mahomes Is, Lennox Lewis, congrats on the pound for
pound bantamweight thing.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
There you go, We'll call them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
What does that get your standings? Pound for pound? What
does that mean?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Do we have that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I mean gray hair for gray hair, I'm as good
as anybody in AM radio. I've got Perry Gray hair.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You look at you defending Mahomes. Have you been talking
to Nick a lot or something? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm not defending him. It's just I'm giving you data
that he wins all the Super Bowls played in this
league for the last couple of years. What do you
want me to say? People banged on Brady forever and
I'm like, I don't know what you're watching Mahomes the
best Quotaback.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
No, No, we don't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I don't think we're just ringing with that. I think
we're just aren't you getting sick of the chief.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'll tell you this. I was walking the other night.
I was sitting. I was in Manhattan Beach with my
friend David and David Slam. We were walking and I
don't know, we were talking about something, and I just
I got I know he was talking to somebody. And
I wandered and thought and I thought to myself. As
I was walking, I thought to myself, I saw an
athletics store sketcher as I walked by, and I did
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there was a picture of an athlete. I was thinking.
You know, we always say a great quarterback is like
worth four points a game. Is it possible a great
quarterback is worth like fifteen and the analytics just can't
figure out how to say that. I was thinking, is
that Baltimore last year with Lamar Jackson, he hadn't played right,
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he got banged up the previous years. At the end
they were scoring like sixteen a game. Baltimore literally crushed Detroit,
crushed Miami. They crushed everybody except the Rams in the
regular season. Is that I don't think we understand how
great the truly great are. I don't think people understand
how great Brady was. The minute Brady left Bill Belichick.
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The whole operation is a disaster. The whole operation is
a disaster. If Mahomes left Kansas City tomorrow and they
missed on a draft pick. With that receiving corps, they're
a three win team, a four win team.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
With Andy Reid a coach.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Go ask Andy and listen, nothing against Kevin Cobb, but
how much can you win? I mean, Andy's the best
coach ever. But sometimes I think about this, do we understand, literally,
think about how great Lawrence Taylor was for the New
York Giants. Your entire offensive game plan every week was
chip him. Put your best tackle against him, divert his attention,
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double him, and he was still unblockable. Aaron Donald. There
were videos last year. I contend Aaron Donald got frustrated
because he didn't have people next to him. When von
Miller left, you could then double and triple team Aaron Donald.
There was video last year in the NFL Regular Weekly
video of Aaron Donald being triple teamed in pass blocking situations.
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Because Kobe Turner's a kid, he's not ready to dominate yet.
And I think Aaron Donald said, Aaron Donald would be
the best defensive lineman in the league right now if
he came back with Chris Jones. They literally people couldn't
figure it. Aaron Donald never got single blocking Lawrence Taylor,
Reggie White. They dominate statistically, and they're being doubled on
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every snap. If you single blocked lt Donald, they would
end up with thirty five sacks. They're so much better
than even good players. That's my take.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
That's a take. Well, I'll just say Joe Burrow's not
in the class.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Then a Mahomes because he went down and the Bengals
nearly made the playoffs without him.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Timeout timeout. Okay, there you go. So the Bengals who
got to a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow almost made
the playoffs without him, but fourteen other teams did. You
don't see the gap in getting to a Super Bowl
with a bad old line play away from winning and
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almost made it in.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
A three win team without Mahomes, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Maybe it's six okay, But if they drafted a guy
that can't play and he gets just six wins off
his genius? Do we understand Patrick Mahomes won a Super
Bowl with, in my opinion, the worst receiving core in
the league.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
How many wins for the outside of Carolina Josh Allen
goes down tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
How many wins for the Bills this season? Five?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Four? I mean, say what you want about Aaron Rodgers.
They well they won seven games. They did they were
unwatchable offensively. I think we don't understand how valuable quarterbacks are.
If Aaron Rodgers goes down in week two, they are
drafting first, second or third. If Aaron Rodgers is upright
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in week seventeen, they are vying and with a real
shot I believe, to get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Baltimore loses Lamar tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
They're a six win team. That's what they are. Last
year they weren't winning. They were destroying San Francisco. They
destroyed the Lions, not beat them, humiliated Detroit or something.
They were like, what is Lamar worth twenty five points?
I don't care what. I don't care what Vegas says like.
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I think we underappreciate because in life, it's not what
you do, it's also what you don't do, the dumb
decisions you make. And Mahomes never makes it. He almost
never throws a bad pick.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
It was Super Bowl he had that bad pick against
then Iron. When he threw that, I thought San fran
had the game and they could not get in the answer, and.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Then they didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
That was a brutal pick.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I think to start the second half, Moms the pedestrian
admit it.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
In the playoffs until the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Jmak with the news. We have to end this.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
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At Sometimes it is just healthier to enjoy the moment. Yesterday,
on the other network, their NBA Today crew was theorizing
and building up the possibility that Lebron for the Lakers
and Steph for the Warriors. After their magnificent play together
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in Paris, could actually join forces in a couple of years.
Oh boy, the Olympics was shorter games six total games,
no back to backs, and way less travel. Yeah, it
was built for old guys. Basically, Paris was a stacked roster,
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a number one seed facing a number eight seed, and
the games are eight minute. It's shorter. Let's appreciate it
for what it was. Are aging somewhat fading superstars on
a really cool long vacation and they were asked to
work about two hours a day on that vacation. Don't
(37:14):
confuse a ten day vacation in July in Nantucket for
full time residency in Nantucket. Got a small house in January,
it would be like living in a frisbee in the
middle of a nor'easter. Don't confuse the Olympics short games,
(37:35):
stack roster, playing with leads, relying on great teammates. Lebron
averaged twenty four minutes a game. Of course he was great.
He'll average thirty seven for the Lakers and they'll usually
have the second best roster. Don't confuse midnight in Paris
with Midnight in OKC. Two different experiences. Oh, it was magical.
(38:01):
It's our older players. It was built for our team.
That's why you didn't want a young team. You can
use old players in the Olympics. The games are short,
they only have to play twenty twenty two minutes. The
bench is great, there's only you know, every third game
you're challenged a little. If we had not played Serbia
yet and it was the first time, the game wouldn't
(38:21):
have been as close. So the Olympics is not real life.
Soak it up. It's it's you know, it's like honeymoons.
You know, people go on honeymoons and you're not working.
Now somebody else may have paid for it. The weather's perfect,
the kids aren't there. Let's move to Hawaii. That's different
(38:42):
than vacationing all paid in Hawaii, don't That's the Olympics
are a totally separate experience. Stephan Lebron, if they could
play together in twenty twenty six, Lebron's in his forties,
Steph's playing forty five to fifty five games. Come on now,
(39:03):
so Hard Knocks. Last week, the episode of Hard Knocks,
the one with the Bears was the show's highest rated
premiere in five years. Episode two airs tonight at nine
Eastern last night. Excuse me, episode two aired last night.
(39:26):
I didn't see it, So it appears the nail polish
didn't offend people. They were kind of fascinated by it.
Tayleb Williams College nail polish. It wasn't the end of times.
It is important to note, though, that seven of the
last nine Hard Knock teams missed the playoffs. Now remember
with Hard Knocks to be selected, you have to miss
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the playoffs the previous two years, so you get very,
very dysfunctional teams. Over the last thirteen seasons, there's only
one playoff win with Hard Knock teams. So let's just
let's look at our expectations with the Bears. I see
I look at their schedule. I see eight wins. I
don't see a playoff team. I think they're going to
go from where they were last year twenty seventh in
(40:11):
passing last year with Justin Fields, I think they'll be
closer to top ten twelve in passing. They'll be much easier
on the eyes, They'll be able to win coming from behind.
They'll be a more functional, better offense laden games. I
see some wins. I absolutely think they'll beat Tennessee in
the opener, but then it gets rough at the Colts, Rams,
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at the Texans. They could be one in three. I
think they should beat Carolina to go two and three.
I can see a win over Arizona and New England,
maybe hosting Seattle. But there's a lot of losses here.
The idea that you're going to be a well polished
Stafford and McVeigh or CJ. Stroud in year two, or
(40:55):
the best roster Trevor Lawrence has had, or the Pack
or the Lions. I'm being optimistic here. I see an
eight win team. That's why I've said with the Bears,
do not judge them just on the wins. Judge them
on ascension, efficiency and are they better on the more
(41:18):
important side of the ball, that being offense. I went
through that thing this morning, and I get to seven
eight wins. Now again, as the schedule lays out post Thanksgiving,
quarterbacks get hurt. You know, if Darnold got hurt, Minnesota
didn't have he or potentially JJ McCarthy, that would feel
like a win, right, But cross your fingers on McCarthy
(41:40):
but to me it's an eight win team but looks
the part
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Welcome in live in Los Angeles. It's the Hurt. Wherever
you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. A lot going on,
very exciting show. Jmac, I'm gonna do a little story.
I'm gonna tell a little story. And I've told this.
(00:49):
I think I wrote about this in one of my books,
but I want to I want to tell a little
story about years and years ago. My first job out
of college was in Vegas, and I sat down. I
don't play video poker. I don't play poker at all,
little blackjack, So I sat down. Union Plaza was the casino,
(01:11):
and it's going to take a few minutes. So I'm
in Vegas, out of college, starving, and my boss at
the time, Dawn was his name. He took me to
a big sales call but he said, it's like the
vice president of the casino. And he said, you're like
(01:31):
an intern. You know, you're like fresh out of college.
So you stay down here. And you know, it was noon,
so I ordered a diet coke and I sat, you know,
talking to the bartender, not drinking. And I sat next
to a guy who had just sold ten twenty TV
radio stations, a Texan Arkansas, Texas guy. He looked like
(01:52):
the Marlborough Man, looked like he had a lot of money,
white shirt, good looking, square job, his watch costs more
than my car. And over the course of time, at
like thirty minutes, I was just kind of like trying
to start up conversation. I was very annoying, even more
so than now. And I said, I asked about his
(02:13):
life story, and he was waiting for somebody to come
pick him up, and they were late, so he was
just sitting there playing it and looking out at the
kind of the valet. And I asked for advice. I said,
you've obviously a very successful guy. Played to his vanity
a little bit and I said, uh, give me some advice.
I'm like twenty one year old kid from rural Washington
now in Vegas in sales. I want to do play
(02:34):
by play, and you know, he went on and on
and on, and he talked about, you know, there's there's
kind of two types of people. And he gave me
an example. And this was at a time where a
million dollars was a lot. This is like thirty five
years ago, see sixty almost forty years ago. I remember
it very I remember what he was wearing, very tanned,
(02:54):
looked like he'd vacationed a lot in his life, but
worked hard. And he said, you know, there's kind of
two types of people. And do a test. Tell somebody, uh,
I just made a million dollars, and see how they react.
He goes, there's two types of people. They'll be like, wow,
(03:14):
how'd you do it? And they want to be part
of something new and fun and exciting. And then half
the people will go, no, you didn't, Yeah right, sure,
and dejectedly walk off. He goes, you don't want to
be around those people. You want to be around people
that want to be part of something fun and new
(03:36):
because life's changing. And I always remember that conversation. Some
people just want to go to the country club and
hang out with the same guys every night and complain
about life and play bridge. That's fine. I have tried
to surround myself with young people, part of something new
and fun. Don't be threatened by change. Don't be threatened
by new join the party. Not everything new is great,
(03:59):
but don't be negative of all the time. And I
think about this because I saw this last night. I
sent it to my producer Ryan. The college football season
preview from stub Hub shows forty two that's not a
small number. Forty two percent growth in ticket sales and
(04:22):
college football this season forty two percent, most of it
fueled by the new matchups created by conference realignment. Aren't
you kind of embarrassed? Old guy playing bridge tonight? N
I l pack twelve conference realignments the end of times.
(04:45):
I'm exhausted for you politics, sports, terrified of anything new. Smile,
Embrace something that's a challenge. You could fail at pack
twelve stadiums. I grew up with them. Cal against Washington
State it's empty. You know what won't be Oregon against
Ohio State, Penn State. USC stadiums won't be empty. The
(05:08):
nil Well, yeah, why not pay the players? Everybody else
is getting rich? How about the employees making a little money,
transfer portal. Five of the last seven Heisman winners are transfers.
It's not the end of the world. The guys transferring
are just like you, transferring for a better job, more respect,
(05:29):
little better pay. That's why we all transfer in life.
It's just not called a portal. I'm not trying to
lecture you, but the constant, perpetual negativity and fear of change.
Forty two percent growth in ticket sales, mostly because of
conference realignment Texas Oklahoma to the Sez, Oregon, Washington, SCUCLA
(05:51):
to the Pack to the Big Ten. It's exhausting. New
stuff is fun. Think about this. Only fifteen college football
programms of one hundred what thirty five Division I programs
in the last decade, only fifteen made the playoffs. That's
(06:11):
just not inclusive enough. Invite new people to an occasional party.
Let your wife make the list, right, Let her invite
some people you don't know, not the same old guys
playing bridge. I was told to transfer portal Christian McCaffrey
skipping a bowl game. The nil conference realignment it was
(06:35):
going to rue in the sport. I've never in my
life been more excited for college football. I cannot wait.
Week zero starts in what pen days? How can you
not be excited about it? Oregon hosting Ohio State Penn
State USC. You don't have to wait once a decade
for a Rose Bowl matchup Michigan USC like week two?
(06:59):
How are you not excited? I did for that? Do not?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Mister Rogers used to have a saying, he said, whenever
you're a little kid. He used to talk to kids
and say, find the helpers, Like if something happens you
lose your mom in a department store, find the helpers
in life. Find that fifty percent of the crowd that
(07:24):
that rich cowboy at the Union Plaza in Vegas told
me about. Find the fifty percent that want to join
something new and fun and different. It's a better life,
it's a happier life. Not trying to lecture, but college
football is going to explode this year. Join the party.
Don't complain about it? All right, So there's no reason
(07:52):
to thump our chest on this. But you know you've
heard of the gold medal count, right, the gold medal count?
How out the television official count? The ratings are in
Everything exploded in Paris, with one exception, Women's basketball. The
(08:14):
ratings couldn't even beat the Tokyo Olympics that happened during COVID.
The men's with fading old stars Lebron Katie Steph got
twenty million viewers, overdoubled the last Olympics. And it's Lebron
and Steph and Katie. It's the old guys. People couldn't
(08:37):
get enough. Break dancing was a hit, and yet the
women who won gold attendance down, ratings flat. How everything
else exploded because there was a giant wave in women's
college basketball and they forgot their surfboard. Only Caitlin Clark,
(09:01):
but Angel Reese and Caitlin should have been on this team.
Women's basketball had a moment and they couldn't meet it.
The reality is they got too insular. They're too loyal
to the niche women's basketball media. Stop it ruffle feathers.
(09:24):
Who cares if you leave a couple of talented, albeit
not that popular players off for Caitlin Clark, Team USA
left Jalen Brown off this team and Isaiah Thomas on
another team and put in Christian Ladner. Isaiah still pissed
about it, Get over it. They won the goal best
team ever probably this was a moment, and I'm not
(09:47):
here to lecture. We won. As I say on Mondays often,
you know where Colin was right.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Where Colin was very right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I was very right. But it no need to
bang on women's basketball. This is a teaching moment. Is
that you've heard of that saying a disruptor like Caitlin
Clark was the disruptor. Connor McGregor kind of ended boxing.
Nobody wanted to watch boxing, and Dana White lean into it. Yes,
(10:21):
sometimes Connor was inappropriate and did dumb things, and Bryce
Harper fought with teammates. But when you get these moments,
here comes the wave. Grab your surf forward, ride it.
Don't get don't get insular, don't get precious. Don't lecture
us that we didn't watch the sport. Everything in Paris
exploded except women's basketball. And now the Premier League starts Friday.
(10:48):
College football ten days out. Dodgers Yankees will headline a
very interesting baseball postseason, NFL preseason, and the WNBA. It'll
be off the agenda. I spent all summer talking women's basketball.
It's crazy. We were like this amazing, this is fascinating.
Caitlin Clark is Taylor Swift and sneakers. And now it's over.
(11:14):
Nobody's gonna care, so there's no reason to pound our
chest or lecture. But it was a moment, it was
your time. Well, we only had a few practices. Christian
Leitner wasn't even in the NBA yet this was it. Anecdotally,
(11:34):
I watched twelve minutes of the women's team the Japan game.
They had one player over six to one, and I
thought they're going to cruise, and they mostly did one
close game, but breakdancing exploded. This should have been This
should have been the Olympics of Katie Ledecki, Simone Biles
(11:55):
and the women's basketball team, and it was the only
thing that was flat or down from Tokyo. Caitlin Clark
now trying to drum up interest in the Yankee Booth
recently over the weekend talking about not being picked.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think in time, it gives you something to work
for and obviously it's a tough turnaround. You know, they
played ten games in the WNBA before they picked the roster,
so that team is so talented. I think the USA
on the women's side is just so dominant. But it's definitely,
definitely something for me to work for a twenty twenty
eight and obviously that's in LA so that would be
a fun first opportunity for myself.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles, they will crush.
That's four years down the road. That's not the moment.
The WNBA was just flying regular commercial flights like you
and I Caitlyn arrive. They now have a two year
deal for their own flights. This was it. This was
the moment. They always say in real estate it's all location.
(12:54):
They always say in business it's all about timing. You
had both Paris was the location, and the timing was now,
and you left your surfboards at home. All right, we
got stuff today. We got a lot of stuff. Aaron
Rodgers man, he's on New York Radio yesterday, getting all
(13:16):
prickly the fascinating moment where he was talking about the
Malaysian airliner. You weren't.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You weren't pining for Aaron Rodgers thoughts on the missing airliner.
You weren't waiting on pins and needles for that one.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Colin, he's half quarterback, half podcaster.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I like how you laugh about the Jets and then
point at me like a look at that you gots
a fan of the Jets.
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So if you went to a restaurant, let's say three
or four times and the service and the quality he
was not great, you would stop going to the restaurant
like most of us. Right. Or if you if you
bought a car from a dealership and it was a
bit of a lemon, you got another one happened again,
you'd probably stop buying cars from that dealership. Uh And
(14:16):
And I've always said this about Los Angeles sports fans.
They're picky and they have options in life. It's sunny,
the beach, the mountains, it's LA hiking trails everywhere. If
a team's not good, fans bail. I respect it. They've
got options. It also is a reason LA teams are
all good, because owners know they can't take advantage of them. People.
(14:38):
This is not Cleveland. People have a life. It's not Cincinnati.
There's a lot to do. You don't have to stay
indoors and watch TV in the summer. It's not that humid.
You don't have to stay indoors in the winter. It's
not snowing. People have options. I mean, Dean Spanos knew
I got to go get hardball. I had dinner with it.
We talked about it. He knew he didn't want to
he didn't want to disappear. The Rams are ascending. The
(15:00):
Lakers had to get lebron ad. They're constantly changing their roster,
whether it works or not. I mean, USC fired their
entire defensive staff. I mean they won eleven games, they
won eight games. They're on their way now. They had
to get rid of their I mean multiple the whole staff.
Why Dodgers ohways elevating. They were good before Mookie and
(15:22):
Freddie Freeman. You gotta get them. There's too many things.
And I respect the fact LA gets banged on because
they don't love They don't love their cheap Dodgers lead
Major League Baseball attendance by like seven thousand a game,
SOFI Stadium's packed. But the bottom line is, if you're
not good, fans bail. There's a standard here. It's an
(15:44):
entertainment city. We got stuff to do, we got options.
Vegas is a forty minute flight away, so is Scottsdale.
La Malibu, Laguna. I respect it. I respect fans that
say no enough, you're not gonna use me. I demand
better ownership, gms, better coaches, quarterbacks. I respect that you
(16:04):
wouldn't be loyal to any other thing in your life
that treated you like crap. And so Aaron Rodgers, let's
be frank, he went from the penthouse green Bay last
thirty years. Nobody does offense as consistently as green Bay,
regardless of the quarterback. Jordan Love, Aaron Farvre to the Jets, Rex, Ryan,
Todd Bowles, Adam Gase, Robert Sala. Offense is a you know,
(16:27):
bring you the triangle. You see glimpses of it. It
disappears right like it doesn't exist, regardless of the coach.
And so, but Aaron on WFA and putting, you know,
painting a nice picture of the Jets who have such
incredibly high standards.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Here it is we realize that success and failure is
not binary wins or losses. You know, as a mindset,
it's going out there and willing to put your best
on the line, knowing that's not going to be good
enough in a win loss matrix. Every single time. Now,
I've been fortunate enough to play for two organizations that
set us stand out of excellence. Not hey, let's just
have a pretty good season, you know, No, let's be
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the best. And I think that's the less you want
to play it, and you don't want to play in
a city where they're just so excited to, you know,
win a few games every year.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's what the Jets are. That's precisely what the Jets are.
They were third in the NFL and attendance last year
and pathetic. Seventy eight thousand fans, that's what the Jets average.
That's top of the league. That's like top three. And
they haven't made the playoffs in thirteen years and they
haven't been interesting offensively in longer than that. That's what
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the Jets are. They have low standards, they sell out
the stadium, and the team's pathetic, I mean being I
used to work with a guy Greenie. His whole shtick
was why do I put myself through this? That's a
Jet fan. We have Jet fans in the building here.
Why do I put myself through this? Good question? They
don't in LA They just don't go to the games.
I mean, the Jets fans are are the They're at
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the bottom, and they keep on digging seventy eight thousand
fans every Sunday, and they're forget losing no playoffs thirteen years.
They're not interesting. Who's been worse offensively for thirteen years
consistently than the Jets. I'm honestly, I'm scratching my head. Bears,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean eight straight season a pack stadium to watch
a below five hundred team. They're not even competitive bolow
five hundred and can't score. I respect the Lions or
the Falcon fans or the Raider fans. It said, enough
is enough. They don't embrace pathetic and we got to
be honest about this. When Brady left New England, I
got it. Belichick was increasingly rigid. They couldn't draft skill players,
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and he had accomplished. I mean, he had a trophy
case of you know, stacked with Super Bowl trophies. When
Matt Stafford left the Lions, bad ownership, average coaches, wonky roster.
I got it. You know, Russell Wilson, by the way,
didn't want to leave Seattle. Pete wanted him out. I
got that. But leaving Green Bay, like, when's the last
time I had a bad offensive line or a bad
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receiving corps or casts in the front office. Like it's
the gold standard of small market American North American pro franchises.
The New York team stink in the NFL. They don't
in Green Bay. Well, they got rid of it, No
they didn't. Aaron got rid of himself. He got weird
and darkness, retreat and finicky and precious, and they just
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stayed within one more year. They didn't know what Jordan
Love was, so there's no way to sugarcoat it. Stafford
upgraded Brady, skill players, and control upgraded Russell Wilson didn't
want to leave Kirk Cousins with that old line in Atlanta,
you could argue, and those skilled players, that's a pretty
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good fit. This isn't a good this is going backwards.
But the idea that he went to a franchise with
high standards. The stick Jet fans, their stick is why
do I put myself through this? You don't have to
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
No, no, no, this is the herd line news.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I felt like that was personally directed at me, just
absolutely harsh. I mean, like, listen, when you say put
yourself through this, listen.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
I'm not like on the ground crying when.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The sho You don't. You're not that guy. You never
have been that guy. You almost laugh at the fact
that you're overly off to miss.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Well, I'm the most reasonable Jets fan on the planet.
That's the problem. I'm not like all in and I'm
not like we're the worst in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But my point in that rant was Aaron saying, Hey,
I didn't want to go to a city that was
just happy when in a few games. Well, if you're
averaging seventy eight thousand and you have been below five
hundred for eight straight, the fans are like, yeah, this
is what you're Basically, it's not like it's easy stadium
to get to or one of the great stadiums in
the league, or prices are cheap, or the offense is
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great and they lose shootout, you're just willing to ruin
your Sunday. You have as a franchise. Your standard is
let's fill the stadium and you know, probably came home
with a loss and you're okay with it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, I will say one thing. I actually was researching
the Packers last night. I'm going team by team every night.
That's my new thing, and the Jets have a better
offensive line this year than the Packers. The Packers' offensive
line is basically their biggest question on the team.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
You've done on this, but take a look. Pro Football
Focus doesn't even love their offensive line. I know you
big on them.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
They have a young quarterback who moves well and plenty
of weapons to get the ball too quickly in an
offensive coach, so I think they'll mitigate a lack of experience.
I'll go with they'll be able to mitigate a young front.
Not a bad front, but a young front.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Fair enough, let's start with Brandon Aiyuk gosh If Saga
has just continued to drag on more reports overnight that
this dealers have a deal in place for Auk. We've
been hearing this for a week now, but yet no
trade has been completed. According to NFL Works, Mike Garafalo,
San Francisco has not pulled the trigger because they aren't
far apart on agreeing to terms with a disgruntled receiver,
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adding he's heard that you could prefer to stay and
has always maintained that preference.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yes, Colin.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
This leverage play by a Yuke seems to be working,
but I can't get too worked up until I see
what the deal is. What was Pittsburgh offering If they're
offering two ones, there's no way that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We have made it very clear. We think he's better
off making a little less in staying with the Niners. Now,
if Pittsburgh, well, I mean if Pittsburgh offford him thirty
and the San Francisco offered him on an annual basis, seventeen,
go to Pittsburgh. Okay, yeah, that's forty go to Pittsburgh.
But if it's twenty one in San Francisco and twenty
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five in Pittsburgh, you will make it up at endorsements
hoisting a trophy, he'll.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Be close to, like twenty seven to twenty nine in
that range. Is he better than Amara Saint Brown?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I'maran Saint Brown is the perfect receiver. You didn't
have to play Pam initially, you finally do. He's highly
productive and is like the ultimate locker room guy. I
can't know. You don't get those very often. He's a
perfect player.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
People love Ayuk, but if I gave you Dj Moore,
Brandon Ayuk and I'm a Rossain Brown.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
You're basically like.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This same guy, very very exceptional.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
So I don't this Iyuk stuff. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Forty nine.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hey, listen, that's content, right, Brandon Ayuk. We've never talked
about him this much, even last season when he was.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
All very noisy off season.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
You're not a fan of noise?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Huh nop?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Is that why we don't hang out more? I am
a noisy one. I get excited get you've got a
lot of energy.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I do have a lot of energy, not not today
though I almost got coffee this morning.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
I was so low energy. I was like, I need.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Coffee, not me. I had some neuro gum there and
I am jumping through hoops walking down the hallway today.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
And if people are watching it home, it looks like
you got a bit of a new hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
There is it?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Is it something cooking?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Got a new hairstyle? Like combed it?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You coked it?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay? Nice?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
I good to see.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Let's move on to the Cowboys, who have had their
fair share of contract drama this offseason.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Dak and Michaeh Parsons are in camp, Cede Lamb is not.
Despite Lamb's absence, Michaeh.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Parsons is confident they'll be ready for the season opener,
saying CD knows he's not going anywhere. The business side,
They're going to take care of it, no doubt about it.
Week one he will be suiting up for the Dallas Cowboys, hope.
So I really don't I think everybody agrees.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking yesterday I was reading
the Aaron Rodgers book by Een O'Connor. Some must read.
It's just a great two day read for me.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Really, I must read Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I just thought it was fascinating. I think Aaron's a
very complex guy, and I.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Just can't even take twenty minutes of him on a podcast. Now,
you could read a whole book about him.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah. Yeah, well, Ian's books are.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Ian is excellent.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, but it was you know, I was sitting there
as I put it down and had a little dinner,
I was just thinking about teams in the NFL, and
I thought, if CEEDE. Lamb held out, is this a
Is this a hot take that Dallas would be one
of the five lowest scoring teams in the league. No,
I don't know who would move the chains. I mean,
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as a defensive coordinator Ceedee Lamb. My first order of business,
roll coverage over to Ceedee Lamb. I mean, that's what
you have to do. You don't have any fear of
their running backs. Their tight ends are good, slightly better
than average, but not special. If I would just say
roll coverage, the CD put heat on Dak and I
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don't know where they god that offense without Ceedee Lamb.
It's very rare that an NFL team or any business
gets trapped. The Cowboys aren't trapped. You can live without
Michael Parsons because DeMarcus Lawrence. They've got a pass rush.
MICUs obviously makes it great, but they've got other pass rushers,
even Dak. They've won with Cooper rush. If Dak went
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down for a month, if Ceedee Lamb twists an ankle,
they couldn't score a touchdown against the Rams. Vanilla backups
with four interceptions couldn't get to the end.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Zone with four six is the preseason game.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But again it's preseason, but it's also Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Come on, an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's efficial. But for the record, it's preseason for everybody.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I think it's a little bit of a hot take.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay, you just start looking at offense. A lot of
offenses that we roll our eyes at, like the Bears
or the Bears offense now are stacked. All the Houston Texans. Oh,
actually they got Stefan Diggs. It's Joe Mixon. It's stacked.
Like a lot of these have notts offensively over the
last three years. Houston, Chicago, they got the quarterback, they
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got the weapons. Those are going to be top ten
scoring teams in the league. Houston and the Bears could
be top ten scoring teams for a decade. They were.
You know, it was like roll your eyes, Brock Osweiler's
rolling right. Those teams now are productive.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Final story is the NFL recently released their top one
hundred list. Number This was voted on by the players
last season. Well anyways, Tyreek Hill was number one, which
is a little bit insane. He was a little He
was ahead of Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey, and Patrick Mahomes,
who checked in at four, obviously making the list knowing void.
In a recent media appearance, Tyreek was asked if he
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is indeed better than Mahomes, and you wouldn't be surprised
what Tyreek Hill had to say.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Pat is great. He's great obviously for his team. You
feel me, like they want two back to back Super
Bowl YadA YadA. They did, they think right now, you
look at me, two back to back, seventeen hundred Pro Bowl,
All Pro, this that all decade, this consistency, all that. Man,
you feel me, And I'm doing this at five to
eight five, I'm gonna call myself, show it and No.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Five sel By one ninety. Come on, man, A lot
of people said, I come here, we see what here?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I am doing this? Yeah, okay, I think there'll be
a point when what he says about Mahomes, we just
will stop listening to. Like, I'm kind of over Tyreek
Hill and his football acumen. You left, they got better.
I'm done with it.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
They got better. They're still winning.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Mahomes is a better quarterback today because he doesn't get
the lollipop touchdowns. He's been forced and he's been great
to He can nibble death by a thousand cuts. I
think he's a much more efficient quarterback. He's taken a
little Joe Burrow into his game.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Maybe they test.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I mean, go look at this passing yards, passing touchdowns.
Since Tyreek Kell left come on first in the league.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Okay, real advanced stats say that he has not gotten
He was having his worst season last year and they
were stumbling.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, some of the not not counting yards.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
What are the advanced stats say about Miami's January? Didn't
you check those out? The advanced stats on a team
that can advance those status, those stats are fast. Here's
my advance stats for Kansas City. Oh, they won again
in January. They're advancing again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Need the Chiefs to go down.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
But you know how they say about boxers, He's the
best pound for pound in the world. They say that
about boxers. I think Tyreek Kills probably pound for pound best.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Player in the league. Good art, would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah? And let's say there was a flyweight that was
pound for pound the best fighter. Could he beat Lennox Lewis? Yeah,
so mahomes Is, Lennox Lewis, congrats on the pound for
pound bantamweight thing.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
There you go, We'll call them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
What does that get your standings? Pound for pound? What
does that mean?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Do we have that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I mean gray hair for gray hair, I'm as good
as anybody in AM radio. I've got Perry Gray hair.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You look at you defending Mahomes. Have you been talking
to Nick a lot or something? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm not defending him. It's just I'm giving you data
that he wins all the Super Bowls played in this
league for the last couple of years. What do you
want me to say? People banged on Brady forever and
I'm like, I don't know what you're watching Mahomes the
best Quotaback.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
No, No, we don't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I don't think we're just ringing with that. I think
we're just aren't you getting sick of the chief.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'll tell you this. I was walking the other night.
I was sitting. I was in Manhattan Beach with my
friend David and David Slam. We were walking and I
don't know, we were talking about something, and I just
I got I know he was talking to somebody. And
I wandered and thought and I thought to myself. As
I was walking, I thought to myself, I saw an
athletics store sketcher as I walked by, and I did
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there was a picture of an athlete. I was thinking.
You know, we always say a great quarterback is like
worth four points a game. Is it possible a great
quarterback is worth like fifteen and the analytics just can't
figure out how to say that. I was thinking, is
that Baltimore last year with Lamar Jackson, he hadn't played right,
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he got banged up the previous years. At the end
they were scoring like sixteen a game. Baltimore literally crushed Detroit,
crushed Miami. They crushed everybody except the Rams in the
regular season. Is that I don't think we understand how
great the truly great are. I don't think people understand
how great Brady was. The minute Brady left Bill Belichick.
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The whole operation is a disaster. The whole operation is
a disaster. If Mahomes left Kansas City tomorrow and they
missed on a draft pick. With that receiving corps, they're
a three win team, a four win team.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
With Andy Reid a coach.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Go ask Andy and listen, nothing against Kevin Cobb, but
how much can you win? I mean, Andy's the best
coach ever. But sometimes I think about this, do we understand, literally,
think about how great Lawrence Taylor was for the New
York Giants. Your entire offensive game plan every week was
chip him. Put your best tackle against him, divert his attention,
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double him, and he was still unblockable. Aaron Donald. There
were videos last year. I contend Aaron Donald got frustrated
because he didn't have people next to him. When von
Miller left, you could then double and triple team Aaron Donald.
There was video last year in the NFL Regular Weekly
video of Aaron Donald being triple teamed in pass blocking situations.
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Because Kobe Turner's a kid, he's not ready to dominate yet.
And I think Aaron Donald said, Aaron Donald would be
the best defensive lineman in the league right now if
he came back with Chris Jones. They literally people couldn't
figure it. Aaron Donald never got single blocking Lawrence Taylor,
Reggie White. They dominate statistically, and they're being doubled on
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every snap. If you single blocked lt Donald, they would
end up with thirty five sacks. They're so much better
than even good players. That's my take.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
That's a take. Well, I'll just say Joe Burrow's not
in the class.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Then a Mahomes because he went down and the Bengals
nearly made the playoffs without him.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Timeout timeout. Okay, there you go. So the Bengals who
got to a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow almost made
the playoffs without him, but fourteen other teams did. You
don't see the gap in getting to a Super Bowl
with a bad old line play away from winning and
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almost made it in.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
A three win team without Mahomes, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Maybe it's six okay, But if they drafted a guy
that can't play and he gets just six wins off
his genius? Do we understand Patrick Mahomes won a Super
Bowl with, in my opinion, the worst receiving core in
the league.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
How many wins for the outside of Carolina Josh Allen
goes down tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
How many wins for the Bills this season? Five?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Four? I mean, say what you want about Aaron Rodgers.
They well they won seven games. They did they were
unwatchable offensively. I think we don't understand how valuable quarterbacks are.
If Aaron Rodgers goes down in week two, they are
drafting first, second or third. If Aaron Rodgers is upright
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in week seventeen, they are vying and with a real
shot I believe, to get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Baltimore loses Lamar tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
They're a six win team. That's what they are. Last
year they weren't winning. They were destroying San Francisco. They
destroyed the Lions, not beat them, humiliated Detroit or something.
They were like, what is Lamar worth twenty five points?
I don't care what. I don't care what Vegas says like.
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I think we underappreciate because in life, it's not what
you do, it's also what you don't do, the dumb
decisions you make. And Mahomes never makes it. He almost
never throws a bad pick.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
It was Super Bowl he had that bad pick against
then Iron. When he threw that, I thought San fran
had the game and they could not get in the answer, and.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Then they didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
That was a brutal pick.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I think to start the second half, Moms the pedestrian
admit it.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
In the playoffs until the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Jmak with the news. We have to end this.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
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Speaker 1 (36:11):
At Sometimes it is just healthier to enjoy the moment. Yesterday,
on the other network, their NBA Today crew was theorizing
and building up the possibility that Lebron for the Lakers
and Steph for the Warriors. After their magnificent play together
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in Paris, could actually join forces in a couple of years.
Oh boy, the Olympics was shorter games six total games,
no back to backs, and way less travel. Yeah, it
was built for old guys. Basically, Paris was a stacked roster,
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a number one seed facing a number eight seed, and
the games are eight minute. It's shorter. Let's appreciate it
for what it was. Are aging somewhat fading superstars on
a really cool long vacation and they were asked to
work about two hours a day on that vacation. Don't
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confuse a ten day vacation in July in Nantucket for
full time residency in Nantucket. Got a small house in January,
it would be like living in a frisbee in the
middle of a nor'easter. Don't confuse the Olympics short games,
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stack roster, playing with leads, relying on great teammates. Lebron
averaged twenty four minutes a game. Of course he was great.
He'll average thirty seven for the Lakers and they'll usually
have the second best roster. Don't confuse midnight in Paris
with Midnight in OKC. Two different experiences. Oh, it was magical.
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It's our older players. It was built for our team.
That's why you didn't want a young team. You can
use old players in the Olympics. The games are short,
they only have to play twenty twenty two minutes. The
bench is great, there's only you know, every third game
you're challenged a little. If we had not played Serbia
yet and it was the first time, the game wouldn't
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have been as close. So the Olympics is not real life.
Soak it up. It's it's you know, it's like honeymoons.
You know, people go on honeymoons and you're not working.
Now somebody else may have paid for it. The weather's perfect,
the kids aren't there. Let's move to Hawaii. That's different
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than vacationing all paid in Hawaii, don't That's the Olympics
are a totally separate experience. Stephan Lebron, if they could
play together in twenty twenty six, Lebron's in his forties,
Steph's playing forty five to fifty five games. Come on now,
(39:03):
so Hard Knocks. Last week, the episode of Hard Knocks,
the one with the Bears was the show's highest rated
premiere in five years. Episode two airs tonight at nine
Eastern last night. Excuse me, episode two aired last night.
(39:26):
I didn't see it, So it appears the nail polish
didn't offend people. They were kind of fascinated by it.
Tayleb Williams College nail polish. It wasn't the end of times.
It is important to note, though, that seven of the
last nine Hard Knock teams missed the playoffs. Now remember
with Hard Knocks to be selected, you have to miss
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the playoffs the previous two years, so you get very,
very dysfunctional teams. Over the last thirteen seasons, there's only
one playoff win with Hard Knock teams. So let's just
let's look at our expectations with the Bears. I see
I look at their schedule. I see eight wins. I
don't see a playoff team. I think they're going to
go from where they were last year twenty seventh in
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passing last year with Justin Fields, I think they'll be
closer to top ten twelve in passing. They'll be much easier
on the eyes, They'll be able to win coming from behind.
They'll be a more functional, better offense laden games. I
see some wins. I absolutely think they'll beat Tennessee in
the opener, but then it gets rough at the Colts, Rams,
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at the Texans. They could be one in three. I
think they should beat Carolina to go two and three.
I can see a win over Arizona and New England,
maybe hosting Seattle. But there's a lot of losses here.
The idea that you're going to be a well polished
Stafford and McVeigh or CJ. Stroud in year two, or
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the best roster Trevor Lawrence has had, or the Pack
or the Lions. I'm being optimistic here. I see an
eight win team. That's why I've said with the Bears,
do not judge them just on the wins. Judge them
on ascension, efficiency and are they better on the more
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important side of the ball, that being offense. I went
through that thing this morning, and I get to seven
eight wins. Now again, as the schedule lays out post Thanksgiving,
quarterbacks get hurt. You know, if Darnold got hurt, Minnesota
didn't have he or potentially JJ McCarthy, that would feel
like a win, right, But cross your fingers on McCarthy
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but to me it's an eight win team but looks
the part
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