August 15, 2024 • 41 mins
FOX Sports Soccer Analyst Alexi Lalas joined us in studio and talked about the reported hire of new US Men’s coach Mauricio Pochettino
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go, hour two, So fired up Urban
Meyer an hour from now, Alexilawas ten minutes from now,
live in Los Angeles. It's the hurt wherever you may be,
however you may be listening thanks for Megan as part
of your day. So what I'm about to say sounds
a little dicey, but you can get into trouble being
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too loyal now, I know what you're saying, Colin loyalties
the Kida live. Yeah, with my kids and my wife,
but not with my quarter, my houses, my businesses and
j Mack. I was thinking about this. So Drake May,
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who they drafted Greg Badard, who covers the team, is
like they may have overvalued Drake May and under under
scouted how much work he needs. I'm just saying that,
and now here comes Carson Beck next year. So if
you look at the NFL, Caroline is not great. But
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I went and checked their depth chart this morning and
some practice stories. All the receivers last year, the weakness
of the team was the receivers. All the guys they
depended on last year are now backups. So they have
upgraded wide receiver. They have a much They have Bryce Young,
who wants to win, They have an owner who wants
to win. Has been embarrassed, and it's a bad division.
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Caroline is not winning two games. Caroline is gonna win.
They still they have their tackles now, they have a
great edge rusher, They've upgraded weapons, and Bryce Young has talent.
He was running for his life that division. They're going
to win minimum five six games. The Giants are bad well,
slow down, excellent defensive front, excellent offensive coach. They went
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and got a star receiver, Daniel Jones did get to
a playoff. They're not going to win three games. If
you look and listen to what's going on. Matt Juden
is now gone, the best ed rusher, rookie coach, defensive coach,
and Jacoby Brissett is a career backup. Drake May they're
saying is overwhelmed. All I'm saying is I'm reading the
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Ian O'Connor book, and I had known this story, but
it reminded me of it. Regarding Ted Thompson in the Packers'
front office, why they drafted Aaron Rodgers despite having Brett Farr,
who was great. And their takeaway was the Packers didn't
want to be the Portland Trailblazers who had Clyde Drexler.
Knew Jordan was amazing, but they thought, we've got a
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twenty five point a game or more guy at guard.
We're going to pass on Michael. They went and got Sambuie.
And you know the rest of the story is that
when you have a chance to upgrade, figure it out,
draft him. I mean, seriously, if, by the way, let's
say the Spurs had a chance to draft another seven
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foot four guy who moved the floor, wasn't Wemby but
was the best player, you draft him. The Rockets had
the Twin Towers with Ralph Samson, like, you just draft them,
You just go get the player. Now, there are situations
like let's say you have a good quarterback c. J.
Stroud and there's a guy that grades slightly higher, Well,
ce j Stroud's inexpensive and he's really really good. You
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don't have to go from the sixth best quarterback to
the fourth. That's stupid. But if you have a guy,
I mean Arizona's like Josh Rosen doesn't work, we're gonna
draft number one again. Kyler Murray got him to the playoffs.
So it's very interesting. New England's going to be the
worst team in the league. It's I can't think of
anything else other than other teams losing their quarterback. You
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look at the Jets. If Aaron's upright, are gonna be good,
Miami's gonna be good, Buffalo's gonna be good. New England's bad.
So they don't get any break in division. There's no break.
If Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, two As stays healthy, Josh
Allen stays healthy, they're going Owen six in Division one
in five at best Owen six. So there's there's no
easy wins for New England and they're gonna have the
number one pick next year. Now you can move Carson
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Beck could get you two first three seconds of four.
I mean, you can get a bevy of picks, or
you could just take him. You can just take him.
And what I would do, I just take him. It's
almost like if because my take is I understand and
I said this before the draft. I said New England
can take Drake may or move down. I'm okay with both.
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I'm not sure i'd be okay with both. If you
have Carson Beck in your site six four two twenty
moves well enough, complete seventy three percent of his throws
last year in the SEC the kid Special. He is
a great prospect. He may not be Andrew Luck, he
may not be Caleb Williams, but he's an a prospect.
Drake Mayn was like a be prospect. So I think
that it's one of those things like houses. I've through
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the course of my life. My staff makes fun of me.
I'm not real loyal to houses. I've always told my wife,
don't fall in love with wood. Like just like, if
you can get a better house, better neighborhood, safer neighborhood,
nicer backyard, better for the dogs, just do it. It's
just wood. And so you can buy a house and
you can absolutely think it's a forever home and it's
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the greatest ever. But if you and your wife go
for a drive and you're like, oh my god, this
would be a better for our kids. It's better for
the animals, it's a better school district. What's the loyalty?
I mean, just better wins, better wins. And so that's
where I think if you start looking at Carson Beck,
you start looking at that organization. You know, go ask
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the Portland Trailblazer. That's why the Packers said, we're just
going to draft Aaron Rodgers. He's just too good not
to draft. By the way, there were several teams, twenty
teams that could have drafted Aaron Rodgers, but they got
loyal Go look it up. Look at the teams that
passed on Aaron. They were loyal to their guy. It
didn't work for almost any of them. I mean down
the line, they were loyal to less talented players. And
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the Packers are like, we got a Hall of famer.
We're gonna draft guy we think can be a Hall
of Famer. By the way, Aaron Rodgers was winn an MVPs.
Aaron Rodgers was, I mean, he was great, and they're like, no,
we're gonna We're gonna draft Jordan Love. We think he's special.
So the Green Bay Packers have never what's really interesting
for the small town Packers. You know, small towns tend
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to be very loyal, very very loyal, and the Packers
are like big city cold. They're like, go get another quarterback,
Go draft, Rogers, go draft. We don't forget all this formality,
forget all the loyalty, go get the guy. And it's
the New York giants, the cold, big city New York
giants who've been overly loyal to Daniel Jones. The Packers
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have been brutal. They're like, we don't care if you're
a Hall of Famer, you're getting old. We're getting the
new guy. So just stuff to think about. And with that,
I don't want to waste any time. I mean, I
can go to a commercial, but when you have somebody
with the inside of our next guest, you bring him on.
Alexi Lalas is joining us. He has raced up the
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freeway in Los Angeles kind enough to be here, my friend.
It's hard to see.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Hello, Hello, sir. How are you don't fall in love
with Wood's That's what I got out of the show
this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Don't fall in love with Wood? I love Wood?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, we all do, do it?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Ah, there's nothing like some good wood. You go home,
Hello America, how we doing.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, We've got a new manager.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Allegedly allegedly ALLEGI well, it's not official yet, but you know,
all signs point to a new manager when it comes coach, manager,
whatever you want to call it. When it comes to
the US men's national team. Maricio Pochettino, so fifty two
year old Argentine, and I think he ticks a lot
of the boxes when it comes to sexy big. He's
coached at PSG and Chelsea and Spurs. He's well known,
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world renowned, and a lot of people want that type
of thing. So pedigree when it comes to his club
success and his club experience. Never coached internationally before. Is
it an American? Is it an MLS coach? And for
a segment of American population, I'm sure they are engaged
at the thought of this happening right now. And I'm
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just excited that they're going to have a new coach
because we are less than two years away from the
seminal moment that is going to be the summer of
twenty twenty six in the World Cup, and I want
somebody in there that's going to inspire me to believe
that we are heading in the right direction towards doing
good things on and off the field in twenty six.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So I laid out the landmines earlier on the show,
and I said, a you'll be blamed for every loss
and draw. That's the way it works here. Sure, with
our professional athletes, we blame them a lot. We do
not blame our soccer stars, our soccer players for anything.
I think we have the highest level of European level
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skill we've ever had. I don't know if we have
a ton of grit. I thought the teams that you
played for had a kind of dog you Clinton, Dempsey
will fight Landon, Donovan, lit'll pissy. I kind of like that.
I think the skill level now is higher. I think
they lack grit. I also said it is very political.
There are landmines. You'll never have more leverage than the
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first eighteen months use it. It will wane quickly after
the world that almost does. Are those fair criticisms they are?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I think when you're looking at this particular higher, I
think it's important to note again he has not coached internationally,
and that's not a problem necessarily. You look at Argentina.
Their coach hadn't coached internationally to him obviously. Now he's
coaching Messi and Argentina, so this is a different situation.
I think that's where it gets into, you know, the
interesting conversation, because this coach that you are looking at
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right here in his club's success, day after day, he
is with these players in an international setting, you do
not have that. Sometimes you have one or two trainings,
sometimes you have hours with these players. And so the
detail oriented nature of Puschettino, which is what he is
known for, high pressing, high fitness, that's all fine and well,
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but he's going to have to switch his mind. A
very smart man and a very smart coach, but switch
his mind to be able to impart information very very quickly.
I think that's the big question is in a very
short period of time, not just the less than two
years to the summer, but in a short period of
time that he's going to get with these players, what
is he going to tell them Because he can't do
it day in and day out, he can't see those
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building blocks happening day in and day out.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's got to be raw, it's got to be ruthless
to your.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Point, and I think it does have to be, for
lack of a better word, simplified in what he wants
to do, and you can't do what you do in
a club situation with a national team in particular, in
this type of situation, I.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Think this is very well stated. You've got a lot
to do very quickly, and you don't get the access
to the players that you would a college football coach
taking over a program. So if you were taking it
over and you could give him two pieces of advice,
now I'm talking on personnel, not the landmines politically. Sure,
and you said, listen, he was flying in for the job,
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and you happen to be sitting right next to him.
I imagine it would be in comfort class and you'd
be sitting with him, and he said, hey, just give
me two things about personnel. Two truths about personnel about
our players. What would they be.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I think these players not only need, but I think
they want somebody to come in and kick their ass.
I think they want somebody that doesn't suffer fools. I
think they want to be challenged. And while they may
say they want this, in reality, when it happens, it
might be a shock to the system.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But it's the best shock to the system that this
players we have.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't want to use the word coddled, but we
have given everything to this generation and I'm glad it's
a good thing because I think it's going to produce
better soccer players. But to your point, what you started out,
there also has to be a level for lack of
a better word, grits and all these different things that
we talk about and have associated with this team. And
I think he can come in and say, you know what, again,
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there are no sacred cows. I don't care what you
did before. I don't care how much money you make.
I don't care where you play, I don't care who
your girlfriend is. I don't care how many followers you
have on social media. You need to be able to
do it and it's a wide open field. You want
that ruthlessness. And Tyler Adams, one of our good players,
has talked about kind of the reality that Greg Burholter,
certainly at the end kind of gave them whatever they wanted.
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And sometimes players do need a kick in the ass.
I think these players need a big old kick in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, Geo Arena and Burholt or had a falling out.
To me, I view that as okay, a little bit
of a mutiny behind the scenes, A dad can be involved.
Is it fair to blame Burholt or mishandling that situation
or I mean that from you know, I'm watching and
reading stuff. I'm not with the team, just like NFL,
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I'm not in the locker room. That situation. Was that
Burrhalters undoing because he won almost sixty eight percent of
his games? Was it the Geo Rena situation that undid him?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, I don't think the Gio Rena is your situation
has anything to do with that. I actually think that
he handled that better than most. Okay, because that gets
about a pushback. Yeah, but I think ultimately, I think
this comes down to not winning. And so when it
comes to Puschettino, if he is the coach here, it's
going to be down to winning. You know, it's going
to be down He doesn't speak a lot of English,
and he doesn't speak the English that he does speak
isn't great. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But again,
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I kind of want somebody that is going to inspire,
and you can inspire in different ways, and I want
that that ambassador and that pioneer, and that person that
is going to go out there and be in front
of everybody, including the American public, and get us excited
about what is coming in twenty twenty six. I don't
know how much of that he's actually a competition. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he thinks about the game, and he thinks
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about every little type of detail. And again that's great,
but when you only have a couple hours and a
couple of training sessions, you can't get into the minutia.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So let me ask you one of the knocks on Burholter.
For years and years, I've said we don't play like
Argentina because we don't have those ingredients, right, like even
Gordon Ramsey dal Old Bagels has limitations. Okay, so now
I do think our skill level, and maybe I'm hyperbolic here,
I do think we have multiple players in Europe flourishing.
I do think it was and this is no affront
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to what you provided, but I thought we had to
play with a level of physicality and grit because we
lacked certain things twenty years ago. I don't think we
lack a lot. We may not be Argentina or Spain,
but we can go to Toto and Burholter or the knock
on him at the end was well, he's playing stylistically
like we don't have talent and we should be more aggressive.
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Is that a fair criticism?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That may be a fair criticism, but it should also
be noted. I think what Burholter wanted when he came
in and what he was at the end were two
different things. I think he was much more of an
idealist when he started and much more pragmatic when he finished.
And maybe to your point, there's a criticism in that
in that he wasn't ultimately a true believer and he
betrayed his ethos ultimately, but and it cost him his job.
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So if Putchattino comes in, he's going to have to
very very quickly suss out what this team is and
what this team isn't and say, while I may want
to play like this, I don't have this boy. I
think that that's a I think it's a mixture. I
think they are going to play out of the back
and continue to play out of the back. So in
the past it was much more lived to fight another day,
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and the way the game has evolved, playing out of
the back literally from your goalkeeper, short passes, trying to
break down a team. Often teams that press to gain
the advantage, but it all takes his one mistake, one
bad touch, one bad pass, and not only are you
losing the ball, but you're losing it in dangerous places.
And oftentimes this playing out of the back has become
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a disease because teams that don't have the skill to
do it just put their head down and say we're
going to do it, and they just keep banging their
head against the wall. I don't think that this team
shouldn't play out of the back, but I do think
that there has to be some pragmatism and the sooner
that Pochettino figures that out, the better he's going to be.
And in the past, with the teams that he's coached,
he hasn't really done that. He has been able to
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do it day after day after day and played in
a certain way. And if if months into this he
comes to the realization, Wow, I wanted to play this way,
but I can only play this way. That's a problem.
You need to hit the ground running. You need to
know what you're getting into on and off the field.
Whoever the coach is if it's Pochettino, he damn well
better understand what the situation is and the expectation that
we have. This is twenty twenty six. This is going
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to be a huge moment and we need somebody coming
in that is going to inspire America, inspire America when
it comes to the soccer culture, but inspire the greater
America that this is something to get behind. We're heading
in the right direction and we can be excited when
that whistle blows and have a belief that this team
is going to do things that we have not seen
in the past. And if he's the man to do it, fine,
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bring it on.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, Christian Polisic, clearly I test is special. Yeah, he
is many things, able to beat, you know, foot on ball,
beyond clever, sneaky quick. He's just a goal waiting to happen.
He's an opportunity waiting to happen. If I said to
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you give me two through four, give me another three
of our players that you think are still ascending and
can meet Polisic, because generally if you go play in
Netherlands or in Argentina, there are ways to defend the star.
I mean, Messi is messy. You need it. I always
feel like you need in the NFL. You got to
have seven great players in their prime. You can't be
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too old or too young. Green Bay was too young
last year. Maybe the Niners were too old. You need
a core of four if you have your goalie right,
and we know Matt Turner, we usually do. We always
have a goalie right.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think there's some question and when it comes to
Matt Turner and goal when it comes to the center
back position, and certainly when it comes to the nine,
when it comes to politic though, I think his body
has caught up with his brain. He has matured into
a man physically and that's translated into a consistency and
he hasn't been hurt.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Knock on Wood, who are our core four? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think you would go down the spine and you
would go, well, well, you would go with Polisic out
there on that left hand side. I think you would
go with someone like Wester McKinney and Tyler Adams. Absolutely,
and yes, I guess it would be Matt Turner. Tim
Reeen from a leadership, an elderly statesman type of thing,
I think he has moved on. I think Jedi Robinson
are left back is the most and one of the
most consistent.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then I think you have Tim.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Waia, who over the last cycle I actually think has
been the best attacking realizing he is polarizing, but he
needs and a lot of them need to kind of
do what Christian Policic has done. Is that grow into
themselves and in doing so, you're living up to I
don't want to use the word hype, but let's be honest,
when it comes to a lot of these players, it
is the word hype. And that's a credit to Christian
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Politic that he has been finally able to have a consistent,
uh you know, period of games, not be hurt, but
in those games for AC Milan and for the US
men's national team, do some incredible things and kind of
live up to everything that we thought he was going
to do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I from time to time will poke in the ribs
the online soccer community.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, yeah, because they won't poke back.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You similarly have been willing to at a KD level
engage with the public, and I think it's great. I
like how spirited we are as I as I often say,
you know, we we view ourselves as a five star
restaurant and we're a really talented three. I look at
US Men's National team as a broken tech company. The
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talents there, they don't have the culture right. So and
by the way, somebody buys it gets the culture right.
The talent's there, sure, and I got good bones. It's
like it's like a house with good bones.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Don't don't fall in love with wood, but you can
fall in love with the.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Frame and the house. So is that reasonable to say
it we're broken tech company. We don't we have the engineers.
It's we got Stanford all over the building. I feel
like the culture is a bit broken. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't think it's completely broken and unfetxable. It's unfixable.
And as a matter of fact, I think that's why
Puschettino looks at this as a real opportunity, and I
would look at it as an opportunity. I think anybody
would look at this an opportunity. You don't have to
qualify for a World Cup. You're coaching the United States
team that to your point, while it has talent, hasn't
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lived up to that talent. So it's not just a
complete throwaway of what am I going to be able
to do with this, I think you can do more.
You're coming off an epic failure of a summer where
they have fired the coach, and you have the opportunity
to coach the home team, the host team in a
World Cup that I think is going to be when
it comes, when all is said and done, record breaking
in terms of the number of fans obviously, the number
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of teams going now going to forty eight, the money
that it makes, and again the impact that it makes
both domestically in the United States and around the world.
So that adds up to a pretty good game to me,
all right.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Speaking of gigs, yes, are you doing paying gigs with
your musical talent?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Nobody's gonna pay me to do my music all right now.
And I continue to write and record and to put
out music for all three of my fans out there,
including my mom sometimes, so you can check it out
over there on Spotify and do all that. By the way,
speaking of a performance, I'm gonna head up here and
go up to the fifth floor. We're gonna crank out
some digital stuff. When it comes to the State of
the Union podcast, we're going live right now because this
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is such a big story. The Poschettino hiring is such
a big story. We're gonna go live on all the
different platforms out there so you can check myself and
David Mossi and our good friends ste Holden, who is
zooming in from his vacation in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's how big the story is.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Holden does two things. He vacations and call soccer game.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I've never seen anybody vacation more. It is incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, Paris Hilton's like work right, I mean it's
like unbelieving it to work. Holding Thanks buddy, thank you,
thank you.
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
Urban Meyer joining us last hour today, All sorts of
news happening, Jamack with the news.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Going back to the well the Dallas Cowboys Colin Oh
it just continues to drag on. Cowboys Executive VP Stephen
Jones said yesterday that getting a deal done with Dak
Prescott by week one is their goal. We're only three
and a half weeks away from the Cowboys facing the
Browns on Fox. Still no progress from the Cowboys on
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extensions for their three biggest stars.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I don't know. I mean, at this point, are you
getting worried? Ors? It's still like, hey, wake me one
week one's here?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, order of need CD, Micah Dak. This order of
need CD, Micah Dak.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You've almost turned me into a guy who feels the
need to defend Dak Prescott, he finished his runner up
for MVP. They dominate teens, obliter eighteens, great point differential.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Again, I can like the quarterback, but not like him
at all. At sixty four million though.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Well, sixty four million is irrational.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean, the highest APR is what fifty five for Burrow?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Why would you get anywhere near that for Dak?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
The cap just went up fourteen million, did it not?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So we just want to funnel that into Dak's pockets.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I wouldn't. It's like everything, everything's got boundaries outside of
my kids. Well, my kids have boundaries. Everything's got boundaries.
Who I like that house not for that price? Who
I like that quarterback outside of my homes? Josh Allen,
those two even Burrow gets hurt too much for my
taste two quarterbacks in the league. I'll just pay whatever
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it is Burrow and Lamar. I like a lot Herbert,
but Herbert has it won enough. And then Burrow and
Lamar outside to Mahomes and Allen. Everybody's got a price
in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You sound like the million dollar man Ted Dbyassi remember
him from wrestling back in the day.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Everybody's got a price.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
So I walked into one of these high end stores
in Amsterdam when we're last month, and I see these sneakers.
I'm like, oh, these are for me, these are money.
They're so perfect. And I look at the price tag.
It was nine hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh yeah for tennis shoes.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well they're like high that you would wear with like
a suit and too.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well that's different. Those are dress shoes.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Then they're dress shoes, but they are tennis shoes like
brand name sneakers. And I was like, damn, I just
could not get over nine hundred dollars sneakers.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, of course that would look.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Cool, and like you know, I'm sure you know Tom
Brady probably walks in here wearing those kind of sneakers.
I just for me, I couldn't and I can't do
sixty four million a.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Year for DAK. I can't do sixty I couldn't do
fifty five, could you?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I would struggle with it.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, everybody has a price. Like you said, all right,
next stuff is ooh uh oh, not great news.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Matt Stafford experienced hamstring tightness and had to be pulled
out of their joint practice with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
So we have the siren emoji.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I know you're looking a little concern. This doesn't expect
to be a lingering issue. But Stafford is thirty six
and the injury history is about as long as a
CBS receipt.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Backup quarterbacks for the Rams Jimmy g.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And Stetson Bennett of Georgia bulldog theme first of all.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Stafford last year had elbow issues. I look at Stafford
as I look at a lot of older athletes. He's
never one hundred percent, but he's tough. He's tough, he
plays hurt. This is not baseball where if you have,
like if you have a sore elbow in your Clayton Kershaw,
shut it down. That's not what it is. NBA long season.
(25:43):
If you feel like a calf strain, you're Lebron it's
like Game thirty three. Shut it down. You're playing hurt
as a hockey player and as an NFL player. Hockey guys,
by the third week, nobody feels one hundred percent. Everybody's
dinged up. I'm not sure that the way it is,
Matt Stafford plays hurt uh every game, He's never one
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hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
How's the old line left at by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Guard center guard? Maybe the best in the league.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That'd be good if Stafford got a hammy injury.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And Blake Koram run, baby run.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I like, I like Korum Uh, you have faith in
Jimmy g is the backup.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
By the way, We're not gonna have to worry about
the backup. Stafford will be ready to roll.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I love the Rams optimism. By the way, Rams are
top five team that I root for.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Jets obviously won, and then there's like Chargers and Rams
are in there.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's hard when you when I've lived in cities. When
I lived in the New England region, it was impossible
not to be impressed, like like you. Like when I
used to work up in Oregon, there was this uh
tire company and they were so uh so well run.
You literally parked your car and they'd run out to
your car. That was part of their stick. And it
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was like it was hard to not have affection. They
were so well run. You know, there's certain businesusinesses you're like,
I just like I feel good when I go there, right,
And it's the same with certain teams the Rams, owner,
GM coach, quarterback, draft picks. It's hard not to feel
an affection for a team. I just look at these
as businesses and it's like, boy, they're well run. That's
(27:16):
why I know Andy Reid, I you know Brett Beach,
I text I met their president of this offseason, the
Hunt family. They're well run. I root for people that
are doing the packers like they just know what they're doing.
So it's I get frustrated watching teams like the Jets,
who when's the last time they had an offensively clever
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head coach?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Exhausting shaker A took in ninety minutes to take shots
at the Jets of the show.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Usually it's like first thirty minutes, just rapid fire.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But Laalas talked about like the spine of the soccer team,
you know, like center forward, center midfielder, center back, Like that's.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Important in football. I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Ownership, huge head, coach, massive quarter those three if you
could align those three, if you craft Belichick, Brady perfect right, Mahomes,
Hunt Red immaculate.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
A lot of teas. You can look around the league.
You can't find three in lockship. The Jets owner is it.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm not gonna call him a buffoon, but he's like
below that and solid. We don't know, Rogers can be great, but.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, it really you know what you are before the
season starts. Now now, I still don't love the ownership
in Houston, but the coach, the quarterback, and so.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Far it's sample size of one year.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But but it looked pretty sharp. I mean good no
that that Nick Casario comes in. They have nailed the
last two drafts, I think, and their free agent signings
have all been smart. They've gotten really good players at
a reasonable price. They haven't overpaid for anybody. I mean,
I'm Stefan Diggs for them.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Isn't a C. J.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Stroud's contract. Now, Stefan Digs is such a smart get.
You're not You're gonna cost you Jeffers justin Jefferson money.
But he's a and by the way, hold hung two
three good years with him. Just the time you got
to face c J. Stroud, They're off Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Giggs is a veteran who's playing for a big money contract,
his last big money.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Don't have to give him one.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Okay, you think.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
He's going to be thrilled if Nico Collins and Tank
Deller getting the looks that he should be getting.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, he'll move. They'll move off him.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Right and not in the middle of the season. And
is he going to cause trouble for your young quarterback?
I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He's never caused trouble in years one or two anywhere.
He's not. He's not ab He's not.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Oh he's different because he's playing for a contract.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, I'm I'm hosting for a contract. I'm a grown up.
I can get through it. I mean, Stefan Diggs is
not this crazy person. He's not. He has gotten frustrated, yes,
but usually year three or year four he'll bust his
butt for the first two years and it'll all.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
You want to give him a diva tag or is
he short of it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't think he I don't. It's funny. I don't
view him as a diva. I don't view him. I
thought des Bryant was disruptive. Ab was disruptive. I think
there are players that, and then I think there are
just players who they're a little needy, a little needy, and.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
A lot of people are I'm a little needy, you're
a little bit hey, hey, hey hey, Now we'll be
careful over there.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Final story. Aaron Judge Collin, how about this?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Became the fastest player in MLB history to reach three
hundred career home runs bombs.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
He did it in nine hundred and fifty five games.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Crazy, here's the call of another mammoth milestone homer from
Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The three to zero.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
De time failed history for three hundred for Aaron.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Judge, the fastest man.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Ever in Major League Baseball to reach the three hundred
home run plateau.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Was that game in Chicago because it was loud there
for an.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Aaron Judge hoe runs, Well, he's a star baby. A
lot of times baseball fans go, I mean, oh, Tawny
on the road, have you have you bowed that? I
was watching the Milwaukee Series, so I watched two games
in the Milwaukee Series in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Do you see how many? Did you see how many
Dodger fans? This is a fascinating thing to me. Is
this the Otani effect? Because Freeman and Molki betric great players.
I cannot believe how many Dodger fans are on the road.
Baseball is not a sport where people travel. Is that
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just an oti? I couldn't believe in Milwaukee how many
Blue jerseys in the crowd. Probably that's incredibly my guess, right,
remember when the Dodgers went to Yankee Stadium earlier this
year and it felt like a corner of the stadium
were Dodger fans.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You you get that a little in the NBA with
Steph Curry and oh you go, kids are wearing Curry
jersey in the lower bowl, right.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I don't think you get that in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's not like, No, Patrick Mahomes goes to Jacksonville and
there's a ton of like Patrick Mahomes fans.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I don't think it works like that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, But I I said this the other night. I
was sitting there talking to a friend watching the Dodgers,
having to played a pasta, and I said, look the
crowd and Milwaukee's good it's not like there's just all
these seats available in the lower bowl. The Dodger fans everywhere,
it has to be O Tawny, I've never noticed this.
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I mean, there's obviously there's Steeler fans everywhere. There's Laker
fans in Atlanta, we all know this, But I didn't
know that there's many Dodger fans in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
When Mike Trout was in Milwaukee two years ago, was
the crowd going wild and with him?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No, no, this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I mean he looks like a movie stars hits for power.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
He's so. He's like a kind person too.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Like I saw him drill a foul ball off the
umpire's face. He feel terrible, and he felt so bad.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He was like, are you okay? Like checking on the guy.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
He's just awesome, easy, got a roof it.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Very h J. Mack with the news, Well, that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. We've
got a lot of stuff going on here today. Greg Bdard,
Alexei Lawas urban Meyer joins us next Hour. That's pretty strong.
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I was so excited for the football season. College football
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what is the date today? By the way, August?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
What agst?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So it's August fifteenth. God, this month is flying by.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I got some good intel on Notre Dame, on what's
going on internally, some interesting, possibly really good things happening
for the Irish. Talk to one of my sources. I'm
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And you're hearing good things about Riley Leonard.
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Speaker 1 (35:06):
I like, whaten Notre Dame's Could I saw this?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Hollywood Brown is the latest wide receiver Kansas City brought in.
He just got hurt, so he'll be out six weeks.
Kansas City, their wide receiver position is a has met spill.
It's incredible. Rashi Rice is a disaster off the field.
Kadarius Tony they don't trust him. I mean he's been
like a DNP two immature sky more semi bust Nicole Hardman,
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they played ping pong with him and the Jets, Juju
Smith Schuster one good year left and now I think
New England cut him MBS. I mean it's it's thank god.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are resourceful, they and they
are well run. They have struggled at wide receiver. So
(36:03):
now it's Xavier Worthy, the fresh the rookie out of Texas.
Tiny guy. You're gonna have to keep in motion otherwise
he'll get jammed up at the line. But nobody in
this league, with any unit, has made Chicken Marsala out
of chicken. You know what? Like the Chiefs at wide receiver.
I mean now Hollywood Brown's hurt. I mean they have busts,
semi busts, cast offs. I mean when New England's like, yeah,
(36:28):
we don't need this receiver and Kansas City resourcefully got
a lot out of him in a Super Bowl run.
So and I mean again, this is how great Mahomes is.
Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl, but Cooper Cup for
that year was uncoverable. Brady Great went to Tampa, ab Gronk,
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Their receiving corps. There's nothing here.
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They don't have a one. I'm not sure they have
a two. I think Rashid Rice is really talented, but
it is. I mean, it's just cast offs, misses. Everybody
else's nonsense, and it's like Tom Cruise emission impossible, doesn't
really matter about the plot, the supporting cast. He'll take
a motorcycle offic cliff parachute save the day. You'll watch.
It'll be great. But we talked about this. The gap
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between Mahomes and everybody else in this league is what
he's doing at wide receiver. And it also illustrates why
I have said Trent Williams is the guy you've got
to sign, not Brandon Ayuk. Now nobody thinks pretty is Mahomes.
There are a lot of teams winning in this league
without a number one wide receiver. Mahomes went to a
(37:36):
Super Bowl without a left tackle and got his doors
blown off. Quarterback one. I'd argue left tackle, two ed rusher,
three weapons, four need a couple of weapons. Although Kansas
City's winning Super Bowls with one weapon and a seventh
round running back, think about that seventh round running back.
A tight end passed his prime and an anemic wide
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receiver corps and Mahomes is a Super Bowls that is
that tells you the gap between him and Matt Stafford.
That's how good he is. I mean, it's just different.
I can remember watching Michael Jordan in his prime. He's
sixty six, wasn't the best shooter, wasn't the best ball handler,
and it was just like he just makes it look
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so easy. And that's Mahomes. He just he didn't have
to play well for four quarters and he just turns
it on the last two drives you can't stop in
two touchdowns they win by a field goal. He's just different.
The great ones are as good as the soccer players
are Imbape or a MESSI. It's just and think about
the great players around them, and they are a notch.
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Djokovic at his prime was a notch above Feeder. Serena
in her prime, like the great ones are, you take
all think how great you have to be to make
the NBA. You have to be All State, All Region
on an AAU team, Detroit Metro, Atlanta Metro. You made
me have four of those guys become college stars or
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end up on a bench in the NBA and Yokich
is significantly better than all Stars. Jason Tatum's an all
star Jokich, I mean, Lebron James was eight straight finals,
the truly great ones. I mean, just think how good
Jason Tatum is can't get off the bench, and Yokic
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almost single handedly beats the entire American roster. That's the gap.
That's like what I feel, what mahomes right now, the
whole lea. I mean, as much as like Josh Allen
makes too many mistakes, He's had good he's had a
number one receiver, he's had all these gifts. By the way,
Bill's lost their best linebacker until probably Thanksgiving. Did you
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see that, j Mac?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Yeah, we're talking about it. Final hour, big, big loss
for the Bills. Matt Mulano. They're great line and he's outstanding,
great coverage linebacker, tackling machine.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yeah, he's great and biceps.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
He's a great player out they said until at least December.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
There's Fred Warner to Mario Davis, Rokwan Smith and he's getting.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And this is a defense that I think lost four
starters last year.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Like secondary has a bit in space.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Safetyortunity, a lot of veteran leadership out the door when.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
They had Josh Allen in a rookie contract. They wasted opportunities.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Well, they went far in the playoffs, they just couldn't
get by Mahome.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Look what they had to do this offseason. They had
to let go of offensive linemen. They're now in the
space of letting go, of letting go of guy. Kansas
City won when Mahomes was on the rookie deal and
they won when they let go of Tyreek Hill. That's
the gap between Josh Allen the second best quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Right, let me try to correct. The Chiefs just keep
winning super Bowls even though they got off Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Listen, yes, they won a Super Bowl. Patrick Maholmes had
the worst season of his career this past season. They
had to go on the on the road for two
playoff games. Buffalo vomited all over themselves in the fourth quarter,
Baltimore with the worst game plan in AFC Championship game history,
and the Niners were so close.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
So let's not act like the Chiefs are just this juggernaut.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Don't care how the sausage is made. They've won two
Super Bowls without Tiger. They have that is impressive. I'm
not interested in bad offensive game plans.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
This one was very fortunate. Take it to the bank.
They're not winning a third straight.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
We agree, right, Daddy wants trophies, not stories. I don't
want stories. I want trophies. Kansas City wins trophies. You've
got stories. Well, it's game plan in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Well that was It was inexplicable.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So is winning a Super Bowl with Rashi Rice is
your go to guy?
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Hey, don't sleep on Isaiah Pacheco. He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Seventh rounder. All right, Urban Meyer, our three shows line by,
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Ah, here we go, hour two, So fired up Urban
Meyer an hour from now, Alexilawas ten minutes from now,
live in Los Angeles. It's the hurt wherever you may be,
however you may be listening thanks for Megan as part
of your day. So what I'm about to say sounds
a little dicey, but you can get into trouble being
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too loyal now, I know what you're saying, Colin loyalties
the Kida live. Yeah, with my kids and my wife,
but not with my quarter, my houses, my businesses and
j Mack. I was thinking about this. So Drake May,
(01:07):
who they drafted Greg Badard, who covers the team, is
like they may have overvalued Drake May and under under
scouted how much work he needs. I'm just saying that,
and now here comes Carson Beck next year. So if
you look at the NFL, Caroline is not great. But
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I went and checked their depth chart this morning and
some practice stories. All the receivers last year, the weakness
of the team was the receivers. All the guys they
depended on last year are now backups. So they have
upgraded wide receiver. They have a much They have Bryce Young,
who wants to win, They have an owner who wants
to win. Has been embarrassed, and it's a bad division.
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Caroline is not winning two games. Caroline is gonna win.
They still they have their tackles now, they have a
great edge rusher, They've upgraded weapons, and Bryce Young has talent.
He was running for his life that division. They're going
to win minimum five six games. The Giants are bad well,
slow down, excellent defensive front, excellent offensive coach. They went
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and got a star receiver, Daniel Jones did get to
a playoff. They're not going to win three games. If
you look and listen to what's going on. Matt Juden
is now gone, the best ed rusher, rookie coach, defensive coach,
and Jacoby Brissett is a career backup. Drake May they're
saying is overwhelmed. All I'm saying is I'm reading the
(02:35):
Ian O'Connor book, and I had known this story, but
it reminded me of it. Regarding Ted Thompson in the Packers'
front office, why they drafted Aaron Rodgers despite having Brett Farr,
who was great. And their takeaway was the Packers didn't
want to be the Portland Trailblazers who had Clyde Drexler.
Knew Jordan was amazing, but they thought, we've got a
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twenty five point a game or more guy at guard.
We're going to pass on Michael. They went and got Sambuie.
And you know the rest of the story is that
when you have a chance to upgrade, figure it out,
draft him. I mean, seriously, if, by the way, let's
say the Spurs had a chance to draft another seven
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foot four guy who moved the floor, wasn't Wemby but
was the best player, you draft him. The Rockets had
the Twin Towers with Ralph Samson, like, you just draft them,
You just go get the player. Now, there are situations
like let's say you have a good quarterback c. J.
Stroud and there's a guy that grades slightly higher, Well,
ce j Stroud's inexpensive and he's really really good. You
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don't have to go from the sixth best quarterback to
the fourth. That's stupid. But if you have a guy,
I mean Arizona's like Josh Rosen doesn't work, we're gonna
draft number one again. Kyler Murray got him to the playoffs.
So it's very interesting. New England's going to be the
worst team in the league. It's I can't think of
anything else other than other teams losing their quarterback. You
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look at the Jets. If Aaron's upright, are gonna be good,
Miami's gonna be good, Buffalo's gonna be good. New England's bad.
So they don't get any break in division. There's no break.
If Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, two As stays healthy, Josh
Allen stays healthy, they're going Owen six in Division one
in five at best Owen six. So there's there's no
easy wins for New England and they're gonna have the
number one pick next year. Now you can move Carson
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Beck could get you two first three seconds of four.
I mean, you can get a bevy of picks, or
you could just take him. You can just take him.
And what I would do, I just take him. It's
almost like if because my take is I understand and
I said this before the draft. I said New England
can take Drake may or move down. I'm okay with both.
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I'm not sure i'd be okay with both. If you
have Carson Beck in your site six four two twenty
moves well enough, complete seventy three percent of his throws
last year in the SEC the kid Special. He is
a great prospect. He may not be Andrew Luck, he
may not be Caleb Williams, but he's an a prospect.
Drake Mayn was like a be prospect. So I think
that it's one of those things like houses. I've through
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the course of my life. My staff makes fun of me.
I'm not real loyal to houses. I've always told my wife,
don't fall in love with wood. Like just like, if
you can get a better house, better neighborhood, safer neighborhood,
nicer backyard, better for the dogs, just do it. It's
just wood. And so you can buy a house and
you can absolutely think it's a forever home and it's
(05:25):
the greatest ever. But if you and your wife go
for a drive and you're like, oh my god, this
would be a better for our kids. It's better for
the animals, it's a better school district. What's the loyalty?
I mean, just better wins, better wins. And so that's
where I think if you start looking at Carson Beck,
you start looking at that organization. You know, go ask
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the Portland Trailblazer. That's why the Packers said, we're just
going to draft Aaron Rodgers. He's just too good not
to draft. By the way, there were several teams, twenty
teams that could have drafted Aaron Rodgers, but they got
loyal Go look it up. Look at the teams that
passed on Aaron. They were loyal to their guy. It
didn't work for almost any of them. I mean down
the line, they were loyal to less talented players. And
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the Packers are like, we got a Hall of famer.
We're gonna draft guy we think can be a Hall
of Famer. By the way, Aaron Rodgers was winn an MVPs.
Aaron Rodgers was, I mean, he was great, and they're like, no,
we're gonna We're gonna draft Jordan Love. We think he's special.
So the Green Bay Packers have never what's really interesting
for the small town Packers. You know, small towns tend
(06:30):
to be very loyal, very very loyal, and the Packers
are like big city cold. They're like, go get another quarterback,
Go draft, Rogers, go draft. We don't forget all this formality,
forget all the loyalty, go get the guy. And it's
the New York giants, the cold, big city New York
giants who've been overly loyal to Daniel Jones. The Packers
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have been brutal. They're like, we don't care if you're
a Hall of Famer, you're getting old. We're getting the
new guy. So just stuff to think about. And with that,
I don't want to waste any time. I mean, I
can go to a commercial, but when you have somebody
with the inside of our next guest, you bring him on.
Alexi Lalas is joining us. He has raced up the
(07:17):
freeway in Los Angeles kind enough to be here, my friend.
It's hard to see.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Hello, Hello, sir. How are you don't fall in love
with Wood's That's what I got out of the show
this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Don't fall in love with Wood? I love Wood?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, we all do, do it?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Ah, there's nothing like some good wood. You go home,
Hello America, how we doing.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, We've got a new manager.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Allegedly allegedly ALLEGI well, it's not official yet, but you know,
all signs point to a new manager when it comes coach, manager,
whatever you want to call it. When it comes to
the US men's national team. Maricio Pochettino, so fifty two
year old Argentine, and I think he ticks a lot
of the boxes when it comes to sexy big. He's
coached at PSG and Chelsea and Spurs. He's well known,
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world renowned, and a lot of people want that type
of thing. So pedigree when it comes to his club
success and his club experience. Never coached internationally before. Is
it an American? Is it an MLS coach? And for
a segment of American population, I'm sure they are engaged
at the thought of this happening right now. And I'm
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just excited that they're going to have a new coach
because we are less than two years away from the
seminal moment that is going to be the summer of
twenty twenty six in the World Cup, and I want
somebody in there that's going to inspire me to believe
that we are heading in the right direction towards doing
good things on and off the field in twenty six.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So I laid out the landmines earlier on the show,
and I said, a you'll be blamed for every loss
and draw. That's the way it works here. Sure, with
our professional athletes, we blame them a lot. We do
not blame our soccer stars, our soccer players for anything.
I think we have the highest level of European level
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skill we've ever had. I don't know if we have
a ton of grit. I thought the teams that you
played for had a kind of dog you Clinton, Dempsey
will fight Landon, Donovan, lit'll pissy. I kind of like that.
I think the skill level now is higher. I think
they lack grit. I also said it is very political.
There are landmines. You'll never have more leverage than the
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first eighteen months use it. It will wane quickly after
the world that almost does. Are those fair criticisms they are?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I think when you're looking at this particular higher, I
think it's important to note again he has not coached internationally,
and that's not a problem necessarily. You look at Argentina.
Their coach hadn't coached internationally to him obviously. Now he's
coaching Messi and Argentina, so this is a different situation.
I think that's where it gets into, you know, the
interesting conversation, because this coach that you are looking at
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right here in his club's success, day after day, he
is with these players in an international setting, you do
not have that. Sometimes you have one or two trainings,
sometimes you have hours with these players. And so the
detail oriented nature of Puschettino, which is what he is
known for, high pressing, high fitness, that's all fine and well,
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but he's going to have to switch his mind. A
very smart man and a very smart coach, but switch
his mind to be able to impart information very very quickly.
I think that's the big question is in a very
short period of time, not just the less than two
years to the summer, but in a short period of
time that he's going to get with these players, what
is he going to tell them Because he can't do
it day in and day out, he can't see those
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building blocks happening day in and day out.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's got to be raw, it's got to be ruthless
to your.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Point, and I think it does have to be, for
lack of a better word, simplified in what he wants
to do, and you can't do what you do in
a club situation with a national team in particular, in
this type of situation, I.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Think this is very well stated. You've got a lot
to do very quickly, and you don't get the access
to the players that you would a college football coach
taking over a program. So if you were taking it
over and you could give him two pieces of advice,
now I'm talking on personnel, not the landmines politically. Sure,
and you said, listen, he was flying in for the job,
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and you happen to be sitting right next to him.
I imagine it would be in comfort class and you'd
be sitting with him, and he said, hey, just give
me two things about personnel. Two truths about personnel about
our players. What would they be.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I think these players not only need, but I think
they want somebody to come in and kick their ass.
I think they want somebody that doesn't suffer fools. I
think they want to be challenged. And while they may
say they want this, in reality, when it happens, it
might be a shock to the system.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But it's the best shock to the system that this
players we have.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't want to use the word coddled, but we
have given everything to this generation and I'm glad it's
a good thing because I think it's going to produce
better soccer players. But to your point, what you started out,
there also has to be a level for lack of
a better word, grits and all these different things that
we talk about and have associated with this team. And
I think he can come in and say, you know what, again,
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there are no sacred cows. I don't care what you
did before. I don't care how much money you make.
I don't care where you play, I don't care who
your girlfriend is. I don't care how many followers you
have on social media. You need to be able to
do it and it's a wide open field. You want
that ruthlessness. And Tyler Adams, one of our good players,
has talked about kind of the reality that Greg Burholter,
certainly at the end kind of gave them whatever they wanted.
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And sometimes players do need a kick in the ass.
I think these players need a big old kick in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, Geo Arena and Burholt or had a falling out.
To me, I view that as okay, a little bit
of a mutiny behind the scenes, A dad can be involved.
Is it fair to blame Burholt or mishandling that situation
or I mean that from you know, I'm watching and
reading stuff. I'm not with the team, just like NFL,
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I'm not in the locker room. That situation. Was that
Burrhalters undoing because he won almost sixty eight percent of
his games? Was it the Geo Rena situation that undid him?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, I don't think the Gio Rena is your situation
has anything to do with that. I actually think that
he handled that better than most. Okay, because that gets
about a pushback. Yeah, but I think ultimately, I think
this comes down to not winning. And so when it
comes to Puschettino, if he is the coach here, it's
going to be down to winning. You know, it's going
to be down He doesn't speak a lot of English,
and he doesn't speak the English that he does speak
isn't great. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But again,
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I kind of want somebody that is going to inspire,
and you can inspire in different ways, and I want
that that ambassador and that pioneer, and that person that
is going to go out there and be in front
of everybody, including the American public, and get us excited
about what is coming in twenty twenty six. I don't
know how much of that he's actually a competition. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he thinks about the game, and he thinks
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about every little type of detail. And again that's great,
but when you only have a couple hours and a
couple of training sessions, you can't get into the minutia.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So let me ask you one of the knocks on Burholter.
For years and years, I've said we don't play like
Argentina because we don't have those ingredients, right, like even
Gordon Ramsey dal Old Bagels has limitations. Okay, so now
I do think our skill level, and maybe I'm hyperbolic here,
I do think we have multiple players in Europe flourishing.
I do think it was and this is no affront
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to what you provided, but I thought we had to
play with a level of physicality and grit because we
lacked certain things twenty years ago. I don't think we
lack a lot. We may not be Argentina or Spain,
but we can go to Toto and Burholter or the knock
on him at the end was well, he's playing stylistically
like we don't have talent and we should be more aggressive.
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Is that a fair criticism?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That may be a fair criticism, but it should also
be noted. I think what Burholter wanted when he came
in and what he was at the end were two
different things. I think he was much more of an
idealist when he started and much more pragmatic when he finished.
And maybe to your point, there's a criticism in that
in that he wasn't ultimately a true believer and he
betrayed his ethos ultimately, but and it cost him his job.
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So if Putchattino comes in, he's going to have to
very very quickly suss out what this team is and
what this team isn't and say, while I may want
to play like this, I don't have this boy. I
think that that's a I think it's a mixture. I
think they are going to play out of the back
and continue to play out of the back. So in
the past it was much more lived to fight another day,
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and the way the game has evolved, playing out of
the back literally from your goalkeeper, short passes, trying to
break down a team. Often teams that press to gain
the advantage, but it all takes his one mistake, one
bad touch, one bad pass, and not only are you
losing the ball, but you're losing it in dangerous places.
And oftentimes this playing out of the back has become
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a disease because teams that don't have the skill to
do it just put their head down and say we're
going to do it, and they just keep banging their
head against the wall. I don't think that this team
shouldn't play out of the back, but I do think
that there has to be some pragmatism and the sooner
that Pochettino figures that out, the better he's going to be.
And in the past, with the teams that he's coached,
he hasn't really done that. He has been able to
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do it day after day after day and played in
a certain way. And if if months into this he
comes to the realization, Wow, I wanted to play this way,
but I can only play this way. That's a problem.
You need to hit the ground running. You need to
know what you're getting into on and off the field.
Whoever the coach is if it's Pochettino, he damn well
better understand what the situation is and the expectation that
we have. This is twenty twenty six. This is going
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to be a huge moment and we need somebody coming
in that is going to inspire America, inspire America when
it comes to the soccer culture, but inspire the greater
America that this is something to get behind. We're heading
in the right direction and we can be excited when
that whistle blows and have a belief that this team
is going to do things that we have not seen
in the past. And if he's the man to do it, fine,
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bring it on.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, Christian Polisic, clearly I test is special. Yeah, he
is many things, able to beat, you know, foot on ball,
beyond clever, sneaky quick. He's just a goal waiting to happen.
He's an opportunity waiting to happen. If I said to
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you give me two through four, give me another three
of our players that you think are still ascending and
can meet Polisic, because generally if you go play in
Netherlands or in Argentina, there are ways to defend the star.
I mean, Messi is messy. You need it. I always
feel like you need in the NFL. You got to
have seven great players in their prime. You can't be
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too old or too young. Green Bay was too young
last year. Maybe the Niners were too old. You need
a core of four if you have your goalie right,
and we know Matt Turner, we usually do. We always
have a goalie right.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think there's some question and when it comes to
Matt Turner and goal when it comes to the center
back position, and certainly when it comes to the nine,
when it comes to politic though, I think his body
has caught up with his brain. He has matured into
a man physically and that's translated into a consistency and
he hasn't been hurt.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Knock on Wood, who are our core four? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think you would go down the spine and you
would go, well, well, you would go with Polisic out
there on that left hand side. I think you would
go with someone like Wester McKinney and Tyler Adams. Absolutely,
and yes, I guess it would be Matt Turner. Tim
Reeen from a leadership, an elderly statesman type of thing,
I think he has moved on. I think Jedi Robinson
are left back is the most and one of the
most consistent.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then I think you have Tim.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Waia, who over the last cycle I actually think has
been the best attacking realizing he is polarizing, but he
needs and a lot of them need to kind of
do what Christian Policic has done. Is that grow into
themselves and in doing so, you're living up to I
don't want to use the word hype, but let's be honest,
when it comes to a lot of these players, it
is the word hype. And that's a credit to Christian
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Politic that he has been finally able to have a consistent,
uh you know, period of games, not be hurt, but
in those games for AC Milan and for the US
men's national team, do some incredible things and kind of
live up to everything that we thought he was going
to do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I from time to time will poke in the ribs
the online soccer community.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, yeah, because they won't poke back.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You similarly have been willing to at a KD level
engage with the public, and I think it's great. I
like how spirited we are as I as I often say,
you know, we we view ourselves as a five star
restaurant and we're a really talented three. I look at
US Men's National team as a broken tech company. The
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talents there, they don't have the culture right. So and
by the way, somebody buys it gets the culture right.
The talent's there, sure, and I got good bones. It's
like it's like a house with good bones.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Don't don't fall in love with wood, but you can
fall in love with the.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Frame and the house. So is that reasonable to say
it we're broken tech company. We don't we have the engineers.
It's we got Stanford all over the building. I feel
like the culture is a bit broken. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't think it's completely broken and unfetxable. It's unfixable.
And as a matter of fact, I think that's why
Puschettino looks at this as a real opportunity, and I
would look at it as an opportunity. I think anybody
would look at this an opportunity. You don't have to
qualify for a World Cup. You're coaching the United States
team that to your point, while it has talent, hasn't
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lived up to that talent. So it's not just a
complete throwaway of what am I going to be able
to do with this, I think you can do more.
You're coming off an epic failure of a summer where
they have fired the coach, and you have the opportunity
to coach the home team, the host team in a
World Cup that I think is going to be when
it comes, when all is said and done, record breaking
in terms of the number of fans obviously, the number
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of teams going now going to forty eight, the money
that it makes, and again the impact that it makes
both domestically in the United States and around the world.
So that adds up to a pretty good game to me,
all right.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Speaking of gigs, yes, are you doing paying gigs with
your musical talent?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Nobody's gonna pay me to do my music all right now.
And I continue to write and record and to put
out music for all three of my fans out there,
including my mom sometimes, so you can check it out
over there on Spotify and do all that. By the way,
speaking of a performance, I'm gonna head up here and
go up to the fifth floor. We're gonna crank out
some digital stuff. When it comes to the State of
the Union podcast, we're going live right now because this
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is such a big story. The Poschettino hiring is such
a big story. We're gonna go live on all the
different platforms out there so you can check myself and
David Mossi and our good friends ste Holden, who is
zooming in from his vacation in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's how big the story is.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Holden does two things. He vacations and call soccer game.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I've never seen anybody vacation more. It is incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, Paris Hilton's like work right, I mean it's
like unbelieving it to work. Holding Thanks buddy, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
Urban Meyer joining us last hour today, All sorts of
news happening, Jamack with the news.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Going back to the well the Dallas Cowboys Colin Oh
it just continues to drag on. Cowboys Executive VP Stephen
Jones said yesterday that getting a deal done with Dak
Prescott by week one is their goal. We're only three
and a half weeks away from the Cowboys facing the
Browns on Fox. Still no progress from the Cowboys on
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extensions for their three biggest stars.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I don't know. I mean, at this point, are you
getting worried? Ors? It's still like, hey, wake me one
week one's here?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, order of need CD, Micah Dak. This order of
need CD, Micah Dak.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You've almost turned me into a guy who feels the
need to defend Dak Prescott, he finished his runner up
for MVP. They dominate teens, obliter eighteens, great point differential.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Again, I can like the quarterback, but not like him
at all. At sixty four million though.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Well, sixty four million is irrational.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean, the highest APR is what fifty five for Burrow?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Why would you get anywhere near that for Dak?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
The cap just went up fourteen million, did it not?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So we just want to funnel that into Dak's pockets.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I wouldn't. It's like everything, everything's got boundaries outside of
my kids. Well, my kids have boundaries. Everything's got boundaries.
Who I like that house not for that price? Who
I like that quarterback outside of my homes? Josh Allen,
those two even Burrow gets hurt too much for my
taste two quarterbacks in the league. I'll just pay whatever
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it is Burrow and Lamar. I like a lot Herbert,
but Herbert has it won enough. And then Burrow and
Lamar outside to Mahomes and Allen. Everybody's got a price
in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You sound like the million dollar man Ted Dbyassi remember
him from wrestling back in the day.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Everybody's got a price.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
So I walked into one of these high end stores
in Amsterdam when we're last month, and I see these sneakers.
I'm like, oh, these are for me, these are money.
They're so perfect. And I look at the price tag.
It was nine hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh yeah for tennis shoes.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well they're like high that you would wear with like
a suit and too.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well that's different. Those are dress shoes.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Then they're dress shoes, but they are tennis shoes like
brand name sneakers. And I was like, damn, I just
could not get over nine hundred dollars sneakers.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, of course that would look.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Cool, and like you know, I'm sure you know Tom
Brady probably walks in here wearing those kind of sneakers.
I just for me, I couldn't and I can't do
sixty four million a.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Year for DAK. I can't do sixty I couldn't do
fifty five, could you?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I would struggle with it.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, everybody has a price. Like you said, all right,
next stuff is ooh uh oh, not great news.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Matt Stafford experienced hamstring tightness and had to be pulled
out of their joint practice with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
So we have the siren emoji.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I know you're looking a little concern. This doesn't expect
to be a lingering issue. But Stafford is thirty six
and the injury history is about as long as a
CBS receipt.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Backup quarterbacks for the Rams Jimmy g.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And Stetson Bennett of Georgia bulldog theme first of all.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Stafford last year had elbow issues. I look at Stafford
as I look at a lot of older athletes. He's
never one hundred percent, but he's tough. He's tough, he
plays hurt. This is not baseball where if you have,
like if you have a sore elbow in your Clayton Kershaw,
shut it down. That's not what it is. NBA long season.
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If you feel like a calf strain, you're Lebron it's
like Game thirty three. Shut it down. You're playing hurt
as a hockey player and as an NFL player. Hockey guys,
by the third week, nobody feels one hundred percent. Everybody's
dinged up. I'm not sure that the way it is,
Matt Stafford plays hurt uh every game, He's never one
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hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
How's the old line left at by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Guard center guard? Maybe the best in the league.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That'd be good if Stafford got a hammy injury.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And Blake Koram run, baby run.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I like, I like Korum Uh, you have faith in
Jimmy g is the backup.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
By the way, We're not gonna have to worry about
the backup. Stafford will be ready to roll.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I love the Rams optimism. By the way, Rams are
top five team that I root for.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Jets obviously won, and then there's like Chargers and Rams
are in there.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's hard when you when I've lived in cities. When
I lived in the New England region, it was impossible
not to be impressed, like like you. Like when I
used to work up in Oregon, there was this uh
tire company and they were so uh so well run.
You literally parked your car and they'd run out to
your car. That was part of their stick. And it
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was like it was hard to not have affection. They
were so well run. You know, there's certain businesusinesses you're like,
I just like I feel good when I go there, right,
And it's the same with certain teams the Rams, owner,
GM coach, quarterback, draft picks. It's hard not to feel
an affection for a team. I just look at these
as businesses and it's like, boy, they're well run. That's
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why I know Andy Reid, I you know Brett Beach,
I text I met their president of this offseason, the
Hunt family. They're well run. I root for people that
are doing the packers like they just know what they're doing.
So it's I get frustrated watching teams like the Jets,
who when's the last time they had an offensively clever
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head coach?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Exhausting shaker A took in ninety minutes to take shots
at the Jets of the show.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Usually it's like first thirty minutes, just rapid fire.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But Laalas talked about like the spine of the soccer team,
you know, like center forward, center midfielder, center back, Like that's.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Important in football. I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Ownership, huge head, coach, massive quarter those three if you
could align those three, if you craft Belichick, Brady perfect right, Mahomes,
Hunt Red immaculate.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
A lot of teas. You can look around the league.
You can't find three in lockship. The Jets owner is it.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm not gonna call him a buffoon, but he's like
below that and solid. We don't know, Rogers can be great, but.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, it really you know what you are before the
season starts. Now now, I still don't love the ownership
in Houston, but the coach, the quarterback, and so.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Far it's sample size of one year.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But but it looked pretty sharp. I mean good no
that that Nick Casario comes in. They have nailed the
last two drafts, I think, and their free agent signings
have all been smart. They've gotten really good players at
a reasonable price. They haven't overpaid for anybody. I mean,
I'm Stefan Diggs for them.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Isn't a C. J.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Stroud's contract. Now, Stefan Digs is such a smart get.
You're not You're gonna cost you Jeffers justin Jefferson money.
But he's a and by the way, hold hung two
three good years with him. Just the time you got
to face c J. Stroud, They're off Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Giggs is a veteran who's playing for a big money contract,
his last big money.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Don't have to give him one.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Okay, you think.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
He's going to be thrilled if Nico Collins and Tank
Deller getting the looks that he should be getting.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, he'll move. They'll move off him.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Right and not in the middle of the season. And
is he going to cause trouble for your young quarterback?
I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
He's never caused trouble in years one or two anywhere.
He's not. He's not ab He's not.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Oh he's different because he's playing for a contract.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, I'm I'm hosting for a contract. I'm a grown up.
I can get through it. I mean, Stefan Diggs is
not this crazy person. He's not. He has gotten frustrated, yes,
but usually year three or year four he'll bust his
butt for the first two years and it'll all.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
You want to give him a diva tag or is
he short of it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't think he I don't. It's funny. I don't
view him as a diva. I don't view him. I
thought des Bryant was disruptive. Ab was disruptive. I think
there are players that, and then I think there are
just players who they're a little needy, a little needy, and.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
A lot of people are I'm a little needy, you're
a little bit hey, hey, hey hey, Now we'll be
careful over there.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Final story. Aaron Judge Collin, how about this?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Became the fastest player in MLB history to reach three
hundred career home runs bombs.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
He did it in nine hundred and fifty five games.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Crazy, here's the call of another mammoth milestone homer from
Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The three to zero.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
De time failed history for three hundred for Aaron.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Judge, the fastest man.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Ever in Major League Baseball to reach the three hundred
home run plateau.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Was that game in Chicago because it was loud there
for an.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Aaron Judge hoe runs, Well, he's a star baby. A
lot of times baseball fans go, I mean, oh, Tawny
on the road, have you have you bowed that? I
was watching the Milwaukee Series, so I watched two games
in the Milwaukee Series in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Do you see how many? Did you see how many
Dodger fans? This is a fascinating thing to me. Is
this the Otani effect? Because Freeman and Molki betric great players.
I cannot believe how many Dodger fans are on the road.
Baseball is not a sport where people travel. Is that
(31:23):
just an oti? I couldn't believe in Milwaukee how many
Blue jerseys in the crowd. Probably that's incredibly my guess, right,
remember when the Dodgers went to Yankee Stadium earlier this
year and it felt like a corner of the stadium
were Dodger fans.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You you get that a little in the NBA with
Steph Curry and oh you go, kids are wearing Curry
jersey in the lower bowl, right.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I don't think you get that in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's not like, No, Patrick Mahomes goes to Jacksonville and
there's a ton of like Patrick Mahomes fans.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I don't think it works like that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, But I I said this the other night. I
was sitting there talking to a friend watching the Dodgers,
having to played a pasta, and I said, look the
crowd and Milwaukee's good it's not like there's just all
these seats available in the lower bowl. The Dodger fans everywhere,
it has to be O Tawny, I've never noticed this.
(32:11):
I mean, there's obviously there's Steeler fans everywhere. There's Laker
fans in Atlanta, we all know this, But I didn't
know that there's many Dodger fans in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
When Mike Trout was in Milwaukee two years ago, was
the crowd going wild and with him?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No, no, this.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I mean he looks like a movie stars hits for power.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
He's so. He's like a kind person too.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Like I saw him drill a foul ball off the
umpire's face. He feel terrible, and he felt so bad.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He was like, are you okay? Like checking on the guy.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
He's just awesome, easy, got a roof it.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Very h J. Mack with the news, Well, that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. We've
got a lot of stuff going on here today. Greg Bdard,
Alexei Lawas urban Meyer joins us next Hour. That's pretty strong.
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couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up
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Speaker 4 (34:10):
Sunday, the NFL preseason kicks off on Fox as the
Saints take on Brockberdy and the Niners. At All Begains
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Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I was so excited for the football season. College football
opens up next next week. Week Zeros next week, so
you know, not a smorgasboard of games mid August. But
what is the date today? By the way, August?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
What agst?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So it's August fifteenth. God, this month is flying by.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I got some good intel on Notre Dame, on what's
going on internally, some interesting, possibly really good things happening
for the Irish. Talk to one of my sources. I'm
learning from you recently. So Notre Dame has a Week
one or zero game, they have an early game.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And you're hearing good things about Riley Leonard.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Can't comment officially on air yet, we'll talk about it
off airon take it from there, all right?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I like, whaten Notre Dame's Could I saw this?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Hollywood Brown is the latest wide receiver Kansas City brought in.
He just got hurt, so he'll be out six weeks.
Kansas City, their wide receiver position is a has met spill.
It's incredible. Rashi Rice is a disaster off the field.
Kadarius Tony they don't trust him. I mean he's been
like a DNP two immature sky more semi bust Nicole Hardman,
(35:40):
they played ping pong with him and the Jets, Juju
Smith Schuster one good year left and now I think
New England cut him MBS. I mean it's it's thank god.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are resourceful, they and they
are well run. They have struggled at wide receiver. So
(36:03):
now it's Xavier Worthy, the fresh the rookie out of Texas.
Tiny guy. You're gonna have to keep in motion otherwise
he'll get jammed up at the line. But nobody in
this league, with any unit, has made Chicken Marsala out
of chicken. You know what? Like the Chiefs at wide receiver.
I mean now Hollywood Brown's hurt. I mean they have busts,
semi busts, cast offs. I mean when New England's like, yeah,
(36:28):
we don't need this receiver and Kansas City resourcefully got
a lot out of him in a Super Bowl run.
So and I mean again, this is how great Mahomes is.
Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl, but Cooper Cup for
that year was uncoverable. Brady Great went to Tampa, ab Gronk,
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Their receiving corps. There's nothing here.
(36:53):
They don't have a one. I'm not sure they have
a two. I think Rashid Rice is really talented, but
it is. I mean, it's just cast offs, misses. Everybody
else's nonsense, and it's like Tom Cruise emission impossible, doesn't
really matter about the plot, the supporting cast. He'll take
a motorcycle offic cliff parachute save the day. You'll watch.
It'll be great. But we talked about this. The gap
(37:16):
between Mahomes and everybody else in this league is what
he's doing at wide receiver. And it also illustrates why
I have said Trent Williams is the guy you've got
to sign, not Brandon Ayuk. Now nobody thinks pretty is Mahomes.
There are a lot of teams winning in this league
without a number one wide receiver. Mahomes went to a
(37:36):
Super Bowl without a left tackle and got his doors
blown off. Quarterback one. I'd argue left tackle, two ed rusher,
three weapons, four need a couple of weapons. Although Kansas
City's winning Super Bowls with one weapon and a seventh
round running back, think about that seventh round running back.
A tight end passed his prime and an anemic wide
(37:58):
receiver corps and Mahomes is a Super Bowls that is
that tells you the gap between him and Matt Stafford.
That's how good he is. I mean, it's just different.
I can remember watching Michael Jordan in his prime. He's
sixty six, wasn't the best shooter, wasn't the best ball handler,
and it was just like he just makes it look
(38:19):
so easy. And that's Mahomes. He just he didn't have
to play well for four quarters and he just turns
it on the last two drives you can't stop in
two touchdowns they win by a field goal. He's just different.
The great ones are as good as the soccer players
are Imbape or a MESSI. It's just and think about
the great players around them, and they are a notch.
(38:40):
Djokovic at his prime was a notch above Feeder. Serena
in her prime, like the great ones are, you take
all think how great you have to be to make
the NBA. You have to be All State, All Region
on an AAU team, Detroit Metro, Atlanta Metro. You made
me have four of those guys become college stars or
(39:03):
end up on a bench in the NBA and Yokich
is significantly better than all Stars. Jason Tatum's an all
star Jokich, I mean, Lebron James was eight straight finals,
the truly great ones. I mean, just think how good
Jason Tatum is can't get off the bench, and Yokic
(39:24):
almost single handedly beats the entire American roster. That's the gap.
That's like what I feel, what mahomes right now, the
whole lea. I mean, as much as like Josh Allen
makes too many mistakes, He's had good he's had a
number one receiver, he's had all these gifts. By the way,
Bill's lost their best linebacker until probably Thanksgiving. Did you
(39:50):
see that, j Mac?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Yeah, we're talking about it. Final hour, big, big loss
for the Bills. Matt Mulano. They're great line and he's outstanding,
great coverage linebacker, tackling machine.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yeah, he's great and biceps.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
He's a great player out they said until at least December.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
There's Fred Warner to Mario Davis, Rokwan Smith and he's getting.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And this is a defense that I think lost four
starters last year.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Like secondary has a bit in space.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Safetyortunity, a lot of veteran leadership out the door when.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
They had Josh Allen in a rookie contract. They wasted opportunities.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Well, they went far in the playoffs, they just couldn't
get by Mahome.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Look what they had to do this offseason. They had
to let go of offensive linemen. They're now in the
space of letting go, of letting go of guy. Kansas
City won when Mahomes was on the rookie deal and
they won when they let go of Tyreek Hill. That's
the gap between Josh Allen the second best quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Right, let me try to correct. The Chiefs just keep
winning super Bowls even though they got off Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Listen, yes, they won a Super Bowl. Patrick Maholmes had
the worst season of his career this past season. They
had to go on the on the road for two
playoff games. Buffalo vomited all over themselves in the fourth quarter,
Baltimore with the worst game plan in AFC Championship game history,
and the Niners were so close.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
So let's not act like the Chiefs are just this juggernaut.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Don't care how the sausage is made. They've won two
Super Bowls without Tiger. They have that is impressive. I'm
not interested in bad offensive game plans.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
This one was very fortunate. Take it to the bank.
They're not winning a third straight.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
We agree, right, Daddy wants trophies, not stories. I don't
want stories. I want trophies. Kansas City wins trophies. You've
got stories. Well, it's game plan in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Well that was It was inexplicable.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So is winning a Super Bowl with Rashi Rice is
your go to guy?
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Hey, don't sleep on Isaiah Pacheco. He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Seventh rounder. All right, Urban Meyer, our three shows line by,
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