August 16, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin believes the 2024 draft class of quarterbacks could be one of the best we've seen based on the early returns we've seen from the preseason
He gives his reasons why the Falcons will be fine this season
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Friday is a facially here. We got a
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making us part of your damn Rolling up my sleeves.
It's a work day. He's rolling the sleeves up, folks
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strapped in. I'm like a farmer with a microphoat hoe
the fields all day. That's all we do here up early,
feeding the cows.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Milk cows anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
They got no scenes for that in my family's heritage.
That's what we do. Go look up cowherd in the
old country, my friend. So we should all root for
all these quarterbacks to succeed, all these rookie quarterbacks. There's
nothing worse than the one o'clock window and watching Bryce
Young struggling, it's just turn it off. So Drake May
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is the one we worry about this year of all
the rookie quarterbacks. First round, that's what we worried about.
His comp was Justin Herbert, which is not a terrible comp.
That's what I was told by two NFL execs. He's
got a little Justin Herbert, but he's not as polished
as Justin Herbert was coming out of college. But the size,
the arm, he's sturdy, he moves well. Last night, he's
pretty good. He's pretty good. Drake made pretty good and
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that's good for all of us. He made a couple
of throws last night. I gotta be honest, and I
was like, Okay, I get it. And he's got nothing
to work with. He's going against backups, you know, the
vanilla schemes whatever. But JJ McCarthy looked excellent. Now he's
out for a year getting a meniscus rehab. Okay, But
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everybody else has looked good, including now Drake May and
against Philadelphia last night, And we've had recent drafts. By
the way, if you go to twenty twenty four years ago,
that's the greatest quarterback draft in the history of the league.
Nobody wants to admit it. Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Jordan Love
Hurts five for five, all got big second contracts and
they're all I'm not a huge to a fan, but
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they're all top twelve. I think two is in that
twelve range. That's fair, all of them in one class.
In fact, you go back to nineteen eighty three, the
John Lway Jim Kelly, Dan Marino class is considered the
all time greatest, but it's just three. Now we had
the Eli Manning, Big Ben Philip Rivers class that's two
thousand and four. But in twenty twenty, we got five
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dudes who look like they can all all get your
team on a playoff run, even to if they're hosting
playoff games. So more of these quarter should be hitting.
And I talked about this with our team this morning
as we were preparing. We've had these seven on seven
camps be ramped up over the last ten to twelve years.
The offensive coaching is just much better. In high school,
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it's much better. There's quarterback coaches. It's now not even
a cottage industry. It's a full blown industry. So the
quarterback should be getting better. They take ten thousand snaps
by the time they're thirteen years old. Look go look
at Drew Bledsoe and Troy Aigman's careers. You had to
be like your six year in the NFL to get
those snaps. So the kids had better coaching, more snaps
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early in their life. And I think, I think high
school and college football coaching gets smarter and smarter all
the time. NFL coaching gets better. So I watched him
last night, and I'm like, could we have another twenty
twenty because it should be hitting. We should not have
as many bus as we do. It's just like Hollywood
figured this out. Hollywood just had too many misses, too
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many misses. It was our house films, quirky, niche stuff.
The critics loved it, and eventually Hollywood said, let's just
reduce the number of whiffs. Let's do remakes, let's do franchises.
The art critics won't like it, but we won't have
as many whiffs. We want to fill theaters. Let's do
another mission impossible, Let's do another Jason Bourne like, sorry,
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John Wick, they don't miss And you know, all the
artists are like, there's nothing creative. You're not paying the bills,
you're not raising the capitol. And so I look at
the quarterback position and my take is, we got to
have fewer whiffs. And it looks like if Drake now now,
there are going to be misses. But if you look
at recent misses, let's think about him, Zach Wilson, well,
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that was a COVID class. He didn't have enough good
snaps against good teams. Trey Lamps miss. He didn't have
enough good snaps in high school or college against good teams.
Can he Pickett Steelers took the hometown kid. So those
were red flags. Those were major red flags. You try
to avoid those. Pittsburgh got a little desperate. Jets were
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after sam Donold a little desperate. Uh then San Francisco
and hits on brock Purty. So we forget about it.
But I mean the reality is, if you looked at
Drake May last night, my take was, oh this, God
get him some weapons now, and he's got stuff to
overcome defensive rookie head coach. They have a broken offensive culture.
The old lines have eroded for several years. They don't
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have enough weapons. But you're watching Drake May last night,
my takeaway is that's something. I know. I know it's
I know it's Philadelphia, it's preseason, but it was something.
And here's the coach and the kid after.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He had great composure. I thought it was a good drive.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I thought he went out there and did a lot
of good things.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So hopefully he can build on that and we'll see
how this week goes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah, has some good things, has some bad plays, uh,
I said, drop snaps, you know, excusable for me and
a or in that probably just sometimes I got scrambling
when I can passit in there and hang on and
try to make a throw. So definitely a lot of
these learned from could get out there. And I said,
I guess some some tape to learn from.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, now, I want to talk about something that
makes me very happy. I've said before I've never lost
more money betting in my life than I have in
the Atlanta Falcons. But I think they're going to be
a twelve win team this year. But the rest of
the media not us. I've got tape, archives and articles,
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not us. The rest of the media made the Falcons
a pinata in February for not hiring Belichick and then
in April for drafting Michael Pennox and I kept hearing
what about safety, what about edge rusher? Well, the Atlanta
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Falcons have signed in the last three days Matthew Juw
don An Edgrusser, and yesterday an excellent young safety, a
free agent Justin Simmons from Denver. Quarterback check, safety check,
edge rusher check, and they got Michael Pennix. How can
you not sign Belichick because Raheem Morris is younger, more offensive, friendly,
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best friends with Sean McVeigh, and collaborative. He'll let the
scouting department do the drafting. How can you not hire Belichick?
Look at New England's roster Bill controlled it last seven years.
It is a knemic. They will pick first or second
in next year's draft. That is all on Belichick. That's
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why he's broadcasting like us and not coaching. That's why well, well, well,
but the Cousins thing.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Interesting. I'm gonna give you seven teams last year that
literally it was a catastrophe at quarterback, not one or
two a quarter of the league. Jets, Raiders, Giants, Viking, Steelers, Brown's, Falcons.
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Go back one season. We had quarterbacks who I'm not
sure were NFL quarterbacks. I mean, oh, by the way,
the Jets, Giants and Raiders, boy, they had good edge rushers.
They could have done themselves well drafting another quarterback. So
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the Atlanta Falcons said, yeah, we watched the Jets and
the Raiders in Cleveland and the Steelers and the Vikings
and the Falcons we don't do that. So what we
want to do is draft a young guy after we
sign an old guy, ensuring that regardless of what happens,
we've got the future and we've got the present covered. Yeah.
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A lot of those bad NFL teams last year that
were a circus at quarterback. Cleveland had Miles Garrett, you know,
the Jets had Bryce Hoff, the Raiders had Max Crosby,
the Giants have Thibodeau. I had great eddrushers. There were
a clown show at quarterback, and the Falcon said, no,
we don't want to do that, and that's a catastrophe.
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I looked up an article that was printed after I
defended Atlanta back during the draft, and I'll just read
you basically what I said. Every great asset in America, everyone,
it could be a yacht, it could be your mansion,
has an insurance policy having two capable quarterbacks is a disaster.
And most insurance policies you pay into them for years
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and you never make any money out of it. You
never get anything back. It's a one way street. Atlanta
is going to have an insurance policy Michael Pennick's for
just one year, and then it's going to pay them
like an annuity for the next fifteen. That's a disaster.
It was all Belichick's allies and old heads. It reminds
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me of baseball living in their echo chamber complaining about
the pitch clock. It works. Next issue, the games are
better attendant up ratings out pitchclock works. Having an extra
quarterback does not rise to the level of catastrophe. The
Vikings are already out one of their quarterbacks, Matt Stafford's
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already missing time with a sore hammy. Listen, you can
be a linebacker shy, an edge rusher shy. They're always
available at the trade deadline. It's not a scarcity issue.
It's a cost issue. You're willing to pay for it.
So what do you know? The Atlanta Falcons to everybody crushed.
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Now they have their future quarterback, their present quarterback, a
Pro Bowl level safety and a great edge Rusher ah,
and they'll be just fine without Belichick. They'll be just fine.
I promise you. I may not bet them every week.
I've learned from that. But it's all gonna be okay. Jmac,
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you know you love college basketball more than almost anybody
I know, and you bet it very well. I've given
you credit for years. You bet it very well.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I had, I've had some good runs. I'm probably more
well versed in the NFL than I am college who but.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're everybody should be in our space.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You have to be yes.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay. But though and I used to love it, I
covered you and l V out of college, and then
it became a turnstile and nobody stays in college. And
you know, you watch the draft, it's like what country,
what league, what G league? What school is that guy from?
It feels like you're being constantly in an introduced to
new people. I have no connection with them, so it's
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too much of a turnstyle. I do think it's I
think it's flipping back with the nil that more guys
will stay in school at the Kansas, Carolina, Villanova, Syracuse
top schools. Very interesting though. J Mack is that the
NBA schedule came out and it once again proves the
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biggest blunder. Adam Silver has made it once again proves
and I like Adam Silver and you and I like
the NBA, but they have an issue and their new
schedule proves it. Oh boy, we'll talk about that coming up,
Jimmy Johnson, Hall of Fame Coach, Top of Next Hour.
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Speaker 1 (12:25):
So, the NBA released its schedule next year. Do you
know who's going to have the most games on? Not
the best team, Lebron James thirty nine. Do you know
who's going to be second? Not a top five team?
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Steph Curry. Now, the Celtics and the Knicks have really
good teams and I'd put them on a lot too.
Season number twenty two, Lebron has the most, and season
number sixteen, Steph is a second. All these young NBA
stars most don't move the needle. Jah morant A'll catch
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his highlights on Twitter if he's healthy. Zach Levine dunk contest, Okay,
Lebron and Steph It doesn't work that way in the NFL,
where even in Tom Brady's last few years in the league,
there's more promotions for Josh Allen and Mahomes and Jalen
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Hurts and the rising stars. Because the NFL has never
marginalized college football. They celebrate it. Watch the draft coverage.
They're rooting for them, promoting them, marketing them. They're microwavable stars.
Even the guys that are overdrafted, like Tim Tebow, are
selling jerseys like hot takes, as they say day one
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in the league. Adam Silver's a good commissioner in my opinion.
He just got seven billion a year in revenue. He
has one big hole. He marginalized college basketball, not understanding
how valuable it is the fact that in year twenty
two and year sixteen, Lebron and Steff dominate the TV
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coverage because we don't know who the hell any of
these college guys are. That's if they go to college,
maybe they go to the G League. The greatest example
of how effective college basketball is isn't with men, it's
with women. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese came into the
WNBA with a baked in rivalry. I couldn't wait to
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watch ratings indicate either. Could you I only know who
these guys are not because of their Twitter highlights from
the euro leagues or the G League because they play
at Carolina, Villanova, Kansas and Duke. But Adam Silver decided,
very very early in his stewardship of the NBA, getting
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that baton from the late and great David's earn college
basketball bad. No, Michael Jordan, Magic, Johnson Bird. You fell
in love with him in college, couldn't wait to watch him?
I mean the minute Michael Jordan, Burden Magic were in
the league, let's go build campaigns around him. Lebron and
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Stepp will dominate TV coverage. Isn't that crazy? Like the WNBA?
And I'll say this, even before Caitlyn and Angel Reyes
got to the WNBA, the ratings growth among women's basketball
was actually admirable. Now now, Caitlin Clark is jet fuel,
but it was growing faster than the NBA. Why because
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you knew who the girls were you watch them at
Yukon face South Carolina. I'm not a devotee of women's basketball.
I wasn't. I'm more of it now, but I know
who the Yukon players are So this goes back to
college sports. Are your ally, not your enemy. Adam Silver
had this, players must be paid at eighteen or the
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sport of the league is radically right wing. It's a business.
It's like I don't pay interns. There's huge value, and
now the players are getting paid. Like you know how
much money you can make on shoes over G League
contracts five years ago? How much money Zion made in
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shoes in making that if he went to the G League.
So this is you know, the WNBA draft this year,
and I'm not the only one. I watched the WNBA draft.
I sat there for an hour and a half and
I knew the top six to seven players. I watched
the NBA draft, which got terrible ratings despite the fact
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that players are better than ever. It's the only sport.
Now you realize that it's the only sport. Ratings aren't
growing up. F One's going up, NFL's going up, College football, WNBA, Olympics,
World Cup, copa's NBA down because they're relying on Steph
and Lebron still, which by the way, I love both.
I love both. But the reason the young guys don't
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move the needle because they go to the G League,
and then they go to a bad NBA team that
doesn't make the playoff for several years, and it's like,
then you want me to fall in love with them
Overnight's not how it works. We're all more distracted than
ever it. We're all more distracted. But college football, I mean,
I can't wait to watch Caleb Williams. Cannot wait. Wouldn't
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if he went to a rival league, the G League
in football, I'd be like, yeah, his Twitter videos, Okay,
I've watched Caleb boy and played twenty times. I can't
wait to watch molite neighbors. I can't wait to watch
Jaden Daniels. I have a relationship with them. Caitlin Clark
for two years was a rock star in college. She
had a rivalry with Angel Rees. Let's go, let's bring
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it to the pros. Immediate you're just like burd Magic.
Immediately you're like, oh, they're all stars. These girls, they
come out, they're all stars. So I'm praying hoping the
NIL will help college basketball and keep some NBA guys
around for one more year. If a kid can make
eight hundred thousand dollars, Tom I is, Oh, Michigan State,
why go to the G League, kick button, the Big ten,
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get marketed, get a better shoe deal. But it is fascinating,
is it not? That the NBA ratings are going down,
NFL college football going up, Women's going up, Olympic going up,
COPA going up. We need relationships and we have none
with these young NBA players. We would have them. If
they went to Duke in Kansas, we'd have it. If
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they went to Carolina, well we don't, and so they
go to crappy teams, sort of disappear. Maybe we see
them in a dunk contest. All that we're doing here,
all this stuff I'm doing all sports is just an
emotional tunnel. I'm trying to get you hooked to me.
You're trying to get leagues or trying to get you
hooked to them. When Brady was older, they weren't promoting
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Brady and all the commercials.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
They were promoting Mahomes and Lamar and there were kids.
There were kids like Caleb Williams is all over that
first weekend Chicago Bears. There's a reason you're watching it
because of USC, not because of the Bears. The Bears
have been around forever and you haven't been watching You're
watching it because of college football and what you watched
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J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
News No, no, no, the news. This is the herd
Line news.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I mean it's a good take, But Colin, I just
looked this up because it was so dumbfounded by it.
So you're not perturbed but surprised that Curry and Lebron
lead the way in TV games.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Right by a law, by a large margin. Yeah, by
a law.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
So in twenty twenty one, the Olympics were happened, and
the men's basketball team, not featuring Curry or Lebron, led
by like Kevin Durant, a bunch of guys, nine point
three million viewers for their gold medal win. Fast forward
to this summer featuring Lebron and Curry nineteen point five
million viewers for the US men's team.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I would say it's largely driven by Curry and Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Would you agree, Well, we have such connections to them.
You love or hate Lebron, You mostly love Curry. We
have relationships with All I'm saying is we could expedite
the relationships with the younger players if they'd been at
Duke for a couple of years and the NBA would,
instead of marginalizing them, would promote the fact they've been
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at Duke.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I bet you could ask some hardcore NBA fans, hey,
we're to Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Go to college.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
People would not. Now I know because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, Jojia, But most people wouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Most people would not because they don't have a relationship
with him. And he was like good, but they didn't
even make.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
The NCAA tournament, Like they weren't good. And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I mean, I get the Lebron Curry push, but some
of these young guys, they're just not Like, are people
tuning in on a Tuesday in November to watch Anthony
Edwards at like seven thirty?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't think so. Are they tuning in for Curry?
And I think the answers, yes, Lebron, you'll give a luxie, right,
you'll at least check it out.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah. Then this goes to my basic theory is the
NBA it does a poor job of connecting with college
elevating March badness. It is all about get the guys paid,
Let's get him to a G league, and it's like
they're gonna get enormous deal. I mean, the highest paid
athletes in America are NBA players. If you're good enough,
you're gonna be rich. By the time you're twenty four
years old, you're gonna have more money than you'll ever spend.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I would say, keep an eye on Cooper Flag this year.
There's gonna be a big push.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
By the way, going to Duke, I'll watch you and
I will watch him play twenty times, so by the
time he comes out, I'm like, I can't wait to
watch Cooper Flag. That's not because of Cooper Flag. It's
because of Duke plus Cooper Flat, plus the network that
airs him. And that by the way, when you stay
in college, you not only get the love from Duke,
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but all these major schools have relationships with Nike or whoever.
And then you also get networks promoting you. Fox and
ESPN and NBC, CBS are promoting you. There is so
much free every company in America that starts, including the
volume when I started it, the first thing you're looking
for is marketing. College basketball and football give pro leagues
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free marketing hundreds of millions. The NFL embraces it. NBA doesn't.
They're not there and that's why we don't know the
young stars.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
All right, let's start with CD Lambs holdout looking for
a contract extension. I mean, Kyle, we could be doing
this for another two weeks. So the rivals of the Cowboys,
the Philadelphia Eagles. Their quarterback Darius Slay has chimed in
on his Big Play Slag podcast about Cede Lamb and
he took a shot at Jerry Jones in the process.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Because I'm all for it. Oh, I may I get
paid because he is one of the best receivers out
of the league. And for Jerry to see his say,
he is not in a rush to get him situated.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
He's kind of crazed.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
One of your best players on your team, and you're
not in a rush to get him you know his word.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
It'd be hard for me to play for an organization
like that, as a guy that's just not wanting to
take care of his guys.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, I will say, when you draft somebody in the
first round and they hit and you mess around with it,
it sends a message to your other employees. I mean
Micah Parson first round hit, Ceedee Lamb first round hit.
If you don't. What's the point of drafting guy, What's
the point of the draft if you're not going to reward.
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Now again, it's one you don't have to reward everybody.
Some guys don't. But Ceedee Lamb is better than I
thought he would be in college at Oklahoma. I was like,
I don't know, I don't know. It's kind of skinny.
I don't know. He is over delivered on his contract,
over delivered. So it's like, yeah, you gotta be careful.
You're sending messages to players when you don't take care.
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Not only is Ceedee Lamb great and his outperformance contract,
but he plays a crucial position. Again, if he was
a safety, I totally get saying we're just not gonna
pay a safety top of market. But edge rusher, quarterback,
perimeter weapon, left tackle and you draft him and they
hit pay. You pay Miles Garrett as long as he
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can walk. If you're the Browns.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I theorize this on my podcast this week.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Do you believe that Jerry is gonna get all the
deals done with his guys? He's just doing this to
keep the Dallas name out there in the ether? Talk
about us on the Herd, The Dallas Cowboys are being
talked about every day because of players who are not
signed every single day. And then you know Jerry at
the last minute's going to come in ceedee lamb hiats
paid receiver in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I love my guys.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I treat him great, and he got all this juice
of us talking about Dallas?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Is that? What do you think of that theory?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I would worry less about getting juice and more about
getting my best players in a timing position. With a
quarterback in camp, I just think. I think, I think
companies send messages all the time, and I think you
have to be careful about it. You got to you.
The whole draft is trying to find stars. Micah and
CD are stars and valuable. They both outperformed their draft space.
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I think. I mean, did anybody think Micah was gonna
be the I thought Michael was word to go out
of Penn State.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Remember he took the final year.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
It was like a COVID year and he just sat
out and people were like, ooh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, I remember we were like, hey, it should be good.
He was dominant his second week in the league.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So it's when you do that, like seed I'm serious
on this with c. J. Stroud, He's in year two.
By the end of next year, you still have two years.
You don't have to pay him. I would sign him.
I would send the message you deliver and people say
that's crazy, but you're gonna save money.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
In the long term to pay early. Hey early, get Mary.
A topic we talked about this week.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
The Cowboys now have the highest valuation of any franchise
in American sports.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Right ten billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Part of that is people talking about the Cowboys all
the time. I think, my guess is this is a
master's stroke by Jerry. He's just let's let this string
out and then give Cede Lamb all the money, which
you know probably is not a great deal.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But he's getting the milk. He's getting the juice.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Out of this. You know, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
That would not be how I would run an NFL FOW.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I agree, he's also not into juice.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm into rewarding my best employees and getting him into camp.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Next up, Russell Wilson is set to start in his
Steeler's debut tomorrow against the reeling Buffalo Bills. Mike Tomlin
said that the first team units are scheduled to play
roughly four series in the contest. Justin Field certainly didn't
do anything to challenge that with a.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Couple of picks last week.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Took a couple of bad sacks, but he'll also get
a crack tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
What are your thoughts, Russell Wilson? Does he have something
to prove against the Bills?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't know. I just want to watch it. I
think his journey is weird. I think he's weird. It's
gotten weird, it's it's so it's just crazy. He's got
He went from good enough to get people drafted. I
mean he got Baker and the Johnny Manziels, he got
him drafted, Kyler Murray like Kyler Murray was like a
more athletic version of Russell Wilson under he literally got
guys drafted like Steph Curry's gotten guys drafted like just shooters.
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And then all of a sudden, from that to Pete's
like I'm out to a catastrophe in Denver, Sean Payton's
like I'm not interested, and then Pittsburgh gets him for free,
and You're like, is this the end? It is? Now?
It does look like it's been established after Justin Herbert
Justin Field's first performance, that Russell has established a pecking order,
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which is Russ one Field's work in progress. So I
think that's good. But I'm really interested to see how
this works.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
People forget the Russell Wilson narrative. Remember he was drafted,
I believe, third round out of Wiscon consin. So it
started at NC State, was awesome, and then the coaches like, yeah,
we're moving on, goes to Wisconsin. I think they went
to a Rose Bowl. But the Seahawks the year they
drafted him, they had just signed Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You remember that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I remember it.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It was signed into a huge contract.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Russ has had like an uphill climb his entire time
in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Oh it's the legional boom, it's not Russ.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
And then he had the issues in Denver and now
like he has had a weird, strange journey.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I'm rooting for him. I just don't think it's gonna
go great in Pittsburgh. Comma.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
It doesn't look like they're getting a Yuke now, right,
So it's it's just gonna be Pickens.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
They got a nice tight end a couple of good
running backs.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And an offensive line that's been in flocks for seven years.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, conservative, defensive minded coach.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
I don't love it. Final story, now that this is spicy,
I don't think any other stories they're talking about this college.
So Anthony Slater of The Athletic dropped an interesting NBA
piece on Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Comes out right after the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Slater, warriors have great beat guys.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
He's speculated Golden State's declining roster might be wearing on
Steph Curry. They struck out on Paul George, they struck
out on Lawry Markinen, and they lost Klay Thompson.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And they also after Lebron Remember last year.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Steph has two years left on his deal and has
until October twenty first of this year to decide whether
or not he would like to extend an additional year.
Curry will reportedly take his time in making that decision.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, they're not a championship club. Hell no, noto, And
I mean, okay, see between the picks.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They might be a playing team.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But I think they are a playing team.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, the West is stacked.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, I think Golden State. Nobody roots for Golden State
more than me. We both love Curry, Kurr, Draymond. I'm
i'm I think POD's a good player. Kaminga is just talented,
but he's not moving the needle in the playoffs. It's
it's Steph, it's Draymond and guys, and that's in the West.
That is not a top three four seed.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'll continue to ask this question.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Is Steph Curry shooting up for the Warriors on Game
one in the fall of twenty twenty five, So after
this season, is he suiting up Night one for the
Golden State Warriors or not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think he'll just re sign. I think he'll trust
Kerr and Dunlevy, and I think Joe lakeb I think
I think it's like it's like Jeter, he didn't have
a lot of years left, and I think he is
so embedded in that franchise. We don't even know the
relationship Joe Lacob and Steph. How many how many tech
(30:20):
companies do you think Curry's invested in that Joe Lacob
has made him probably three hundred million dollars in tech companies.
Let you don't know me late, Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think what Michael Jordan and his career.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I forgot you know, Michael Jordan was bitter and didn't
like Rhyin Storff or Jerry Krause.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Steph could be getting there.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
They don't improve the roster.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think people understand the relationship, what the ownership,
the the affection Kerr and Curry have reached out, or
the respect.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That stuff can exaporate quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Maybe in your prime, but I don't think so. Remember
Jordan always felt he was being screwed over in chicag
Patrick Youwing.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I could name a two dozen athletes who are.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Absolutely but Patrick Ewing didn't win squad. Curry's got a trophy.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Roachem Elijah won won two titles, ended up in Toronto, Well,
Brett Farr, Aaron Rodgers, like so many guys, I'm just
so many super Kansas City cheese.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But again, there was some acrimony with Walsh Montana.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
They had Seve Young waiting in the winds. I get
that there's circumstances everywhere, but.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
There are there and I'm not one. I am not
one of these romanticized the past guys. But there are
occasional athletes like Jeter would have looked ridiculous, even in
a Braves Jersey. It's just it's a chipper. Jones was
a little bit like that, like he's a Southerner, it's
the Braves.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I just, oh wait, Wade Bogs legendary.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But he didn't feel like he I know more about
his chicken diet than I do about didn't. I don't
play for the come on, like, I just there are
very few, but there's there are people Like when Brady left,
I was like, oh yeah, but yeah, he didn't have
dinner in twenty two years with Belichick. He was subversive
or subservient to him. He literally had to take pay cuts.
(32:08):
I got Brady leaving. They couldn't draft receivers. I totally
got Brady leaving. Cheeter's like, we have a huge payroll.
We usually have a guys that hit behind me are good?
Why leave for one great year with Blank? I don't
get Like I get why Griffy left, go back to
his hometown Seattle to Cincinnati. Most of these guys, even
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if they're old, I get it. Gretzky left Canada. He
wanted to make money. He was winning at Edmondson. He
wanted to get you know, I got it. Steph's gonna
do what Where's he gonna go?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I don't I mean, he's gonna have options. Give him
what we just saw in the Olympics. I wonder if
there's something that went down in Paris with Curry and
I don't know Lebron James, who looked super duper cheting.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
What could the Lakers give the Warriors? Literally, talk to
me in a year. Here's Austin Reeves in the second rounder.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well let's not go overboard.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
But Brodny put Roddy at a bad I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't have anything to get I do think this
is an awesome topic. Steph Curry leaving the Warriors because
they screwed it up at the end.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
No, I just don't want to see it. Listen, just
you don't want to see it.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I mean, and I'm not a sport Curry above the Warriors,
like I put Curry here in the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Words, Well, you're a young fan that young fans, that's
how what the research says, young fans like player over team.
I'm a little more old school. I kind of root
team over player, although in some instances, like I like
watching Curry more than the Warriors. Yeah, I like the
Curry Draymond Dynamic and Curry Special. I don't know, that's
a weird one. That's jeter even the Yanks to me
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too much success to leave j Mack with the news.
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You ever wanted to go to a party and meet
like Usher? I mean, you're at the same party, but
there's a certain rope you can't get past, but you
can tell your friends a month later he hi partying
with Usher. That's a little bit what is happening in
college football and we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I reported this earlier in actually I got it
from Christy Dash Sports Business. The college football season preview
at stub Hub shows forty two percent growth in ticket sales,
and they have a specific reason why. It's fueled by
the new matchups in conference realignment. That's what's fueling it,
all the new stuff everybody was fearful of Texas Oklahoma
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playing SEC teams, Oregon, Washington, and FCUCLA playing Big ten teams.
That's what's fueling it, the stuff everybody was terrified of.
I do think it's interesting. There's a lot of reasons
this is gonna be the biggest college football season ever.
I'm for including as many people as you can at
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a party, right, Like college football should not be a
country club, right, it should be more like a neighborhood
party where everybody at least gets an invitation. Maybe you
don't stay around to the end and have fun when
they open up that thirteenth bottle of wine, but you
get invited, right, and the twelve team college football Playoff.
It's not going to change outcomes Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon.
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Big Dog's still gonna win Alabama, but it's going to
appear that it's more fair, and that's a big deal.
Utah and Liberty are not winning this thing, or Boise State,
but now they get invited to the party. I mean,
I invest in the stock market. I've got a four
to one k. Sixty one percent of America is in
the stock market. We all know it's still run by
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six or seven big firms and banks, but we're allowed
to play two sixty one percent of us get a
play along, and maybe it elevates our retirement a little.
I mean, the college basketball Playoff has sixty eight teams.
Here's the last ten to twelve winners. Yukon, Yukon, Kansas, Nova, Nova, Carolina, Yukon, Duke,
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Oh Baylor's snuck in. Well, Baylor's now a top ten
twelve program. So but it's important that Saint Peter's or
Loyola of Chicago or a VCU they need to be
part of the story too. So you know, it's it's
it's again. All these college programs they just felt like
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it was a country club. They couldn't get in. And
maybe maybe like a country club, it'll be more like
a social membership to Liberty Boise State, it'll be a
social membership. You can play like once a month, but
you can use the pool, right, and you're not gonna
be a full fledged member. That's gonna be Georgia and Texas.
But that's okay, that's okay. It opens things up, it
(37:40):
feels more fair. It doesn't necessarily change the outcome. You
and I will never have any pull on Wall Street.
That's nice to play along, right, puts everybody a little
better mood. You're part of the party. So urban Meyer
was on yesterday, and you know it. There's he's coached
in the Big Ten that he dominated, and while he
was in his prime down there, he dominated the SEC.
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So that's rare territory. And I asked him, I said,
I think the PAC twelve schools, I think they're going
to do fine in the Big Ten. But Texas, Oklahoma,
from the pillow fight of the Big twelve to the
brawl of the SEC, I think it's going to be
a shock to the system. And here's Urban on that.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
The difference calling is that damn defensive line and linebackers,
the way they run in the South and the SEC
and the way they take their football. So there's there.
I count eight. Now you have Texas and Oklahoma. I
count ten teams that really they're alumni, they're budgeted, and
their fans expect them to compete for a national title.
In the Big Ten, you know, youve got Ohio State,
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and over ange, you got Penn State, And now I
put USC in that category. Oregon is getting close. You know,
they played in a couple of national championship games, so
they're very very close. Washington played in a championship game.
They're very close. But until you win that dark thing,
you know, I don't know if you can put them
up there. So I think the SEC is a whole
different level as far as top to bottom.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I think there's also this misconception that these West Coast
teams will not be able to handle the frigid weather
of like Chicago, folks. USC's toughest road game is November
two in Seattle. You do get it, rains, it's windy,
it snows, it's cold. In the Pacific Northwest, it'll be
(39:29):
just fine. And also, college football the Big Ten schedule.
You know, it's not playing into January, so I think
that's overstated. I think the Pac twelve teams will do
just fine. I don't think I think Oregon is as
good as Ohio State this year. In fact, I think
Oregon will beat them in Eugene. But I think Ohio
State has a chance to win the national championship. I
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like them, as you know, over the course of time,
more and more players. But the Texas Oklahoma to the SEC,
that's a whole different ballgame that the body saw. The
bodies are different, the intensity. Also, you have these massive
even like the basketball school Kentucky. They got seventy thousand
people at their stadium. So I think we all think
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a lot of this narrative is at Texas Oklahoma. It's
just a little easy pivot. No, I don't think so.
I think it's an easier pivot for Oregon to go
to the only school right now in the Big Ten
that has Oregon athletes, there's one Ohio State, and they
get a host them. I mean, USC doesn't even have
to play Ohio State this year, and they get Michigan
(40:33):
with an unproven coach rebuilding the whole program. They're gonna
be fine, Jimmy Johnson on a Friday Hour two the
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Friday is a facially here. We got a
good week of shows. Let's just crush the whole week,
all right, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever
you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your damn Rolling up my sleeves.
It's a work day. He's rolling the sleeves up, folks
(00:50):
strapped in. I'm like a farmer with a microphoat hoe
the fields all day. That's all we do here up early,
feeding the cows.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Milk cows anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
They got no scenes for that in my family's heritage.
That's what we do. Go look up cowherd in the
old country, my friend. So we should all root for
all these quarterbacks to succeed, all these rookie quarterbacks. There's
nothing worse than the one o'clock window and watching Bryce
Young struggling, it's just turn it off. So Drake May
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is the one we worry about this year of all
the rookie quarterbacks. First round, that's what we worried about.
His comp was Justin Herbert, which is not a terrible comp.
That's what I was told by two NFL execs. He's
got a little Justin Herbert, but he's not as polished
as Justin Herbert was coming out of college. But the size,
the arm, he's sturdy, he moves well. Last night, he's
pretty good. He's pretty good. Drake made pretty good and
(01:47):
that's good for all of us. He made a couple
of throws last night. I gotta be honest, and I
was like, Okay, I get it. And he's got nothing
to work with. He's going against backups, you know, the
vanilla schemes whatever. But JJ McCarthy looked excellent. Now he's
out for a year getting a meniscus rehab. Okay, But
(02:09):
everybody else has looked good, including now Drake May and
against Philadelphia last night, And we've had recent drafts. By
the way, if you go to twenty twenty four years ago,
that's the greatest quarterback draft in the history of the league.
Nobody wants to admit it. Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Jordan Love
Hurts five for five, all got big second contracts and
they're all I'm not a huge to a fan, but
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they're all top twelve. I think two is in that
twelve range. That's fair, all of them in one class.
In fact, you go back to nineteen eighty three, the
John Lway Jim Kelly, Dan Marino class is considered the
all time greatest, but it's just three. Now we had
the Eli Manning, Big Ben Philip Rivers class that's two
thousand and four. But in twenty twenty, we got five
(02:50):
dudes who look like they can all all get your
team on a playoff run, even to if they're hosting
playoff games. So more of these quarter should be hitting.
And I talked about this with our team this morning
as we were preparing. We've had these seven on seven
camps be ramped up over the last ten to twelve years.
The offensive coaching is just much better. In high school,
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it's much better. There's quarterback coaches. It's now not even
a cottage industry. It's a full blown industry. So the
quarterback should be getting better. They take ten thousand snaps
by the time they're thirteen years old. Look go look
at Drew Bledsoe and Troy Aigman's careers. You had to
be like your six year in the NFL to get
those snaps. So the kids had better coaching, more snaps
(03:35):
early in their life. And I think, I think high
school and college football coaching gets smarter and smarter all
the time. NFL coaching gets better. So I watched him
last night, and I'm like, could we have another twenty
twenty because it should be hitting. We should not have
as many bus as we do. It's just like Hollywood
figured this out. Hollywood just had too many misses, too
(03:58):
many misses. It was our house films, quirky, niche stuff.
The critics loved it, and eventually Hollywood said, let's just
reduce the number of whiffs. Let's do remakes, let's do franchises.
The art critics won't like it, but we won't have
as many whiffs. We want to fill theaters. Let's do
another mission impossible, Let's do another Jason Bourne like, sorry,
(04:20):
John Wick, they don't miss And you know, all the
artists are like, there's nothing creative. You're not paying the bills,
you're not raising the capitol. And so I look at
the quarterback position and my take is, we got to
have fewer whiffs. And it looks like if Drake now now,
there are going to be misses. But if you look
at recent misses, let's think about him, Zach Wilson, well,
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that was a COVID class. He didn't have enough good
snaps against good teams. Trey Lamps miss. He didn't have
enough good snaps in high school or college against good teams.
Can he Pickett Steelers took the hometown kid. So those
were red flags. Those were major red flags. You try
to avoid those. Pittsburgh got a little desperate. Jets were
(05:02):
after sam Donold a little desperate. Uh then San Francisco
and hits on brock Purty. So we forget about it.
But I mean the reality is, if you looked at
Drake May last night, my take was, oh this, God
get him some weapons now, and he's got stuff to
overcome defensive rookie head coach. They have a broken offensive culture.
The old lines have eroded for several years. They don't
(05:24):
have enough weapons. But you're watching Drake May last night,
my takeaway is that's something. I know. I know it's
I know it's Philadelphia, it's preseason, but it was something.
And here's the coach and the kid after.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He had great composure. I thought it was a good drive.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I thought he went out there and did a lot
of good things.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So hopefully he can build on that and we'll see
how this week goes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah, has some good things, has some bad plays, uh,
I said, drop snaps, you know, excusable for me and
a or in that probably just sometimes I got scrambling
when I can passit in there and hang on and
try to make a throw. So definitely a lot of
these learned from could get out there. And I said,
I guess some some tape to learn from.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, now, I want to talk about something that
makes me very happy. I've said before I've never lost
more money betting in my life than I have in
the Atlanta Falcons. But I think they're going to be
a twelve win team this year. But the rest of
the media not us. I've got tape, archives and articles,
(06:28):
not us. The rest of the media made the Falcons
a pinata in February for not hiring Belichick and then
in April for drafting Michael Pennox and I kept hearing
what about safety, what about edge rusher? Well, the Atlanta
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Falcons have signed in the last three days Matthew Juw
don An Edgrusser, and yesterday an excellent young safety, a
free agent Justin Simmons from Denver. Quarterback check, safety check,
edge rusher check, and they got Michael Pennix. How can
you not sign Belichick because Raheem Morris is younger, more offensive, friendly,
(07:13):
best friends with Sean McVeigh, and collaborative. He'll let the
scouting department do the drafting. How can you not hire Belichick?
Look at New England's roster Bill controlled it last seven years.
It is a knemic. They will pick first or second
in next year's draft. That is all on Belichick. That's
(07:33):
why he's broadcasting like us and not coaching. That's why well, well, well,
but the Cousins thing.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Interesting. I'm gonna give you seven teams last year that
literally it was a catastrophe at quarterback, not one or
two a quarter of the league. Jets, Raiders, Giants, Viking, Steelers, Brown's, Falcons.
(08:01):
Go back one season. We had quarterbacks who I'm not
sure were NFL quarterbacks. I mean, oh, by the way,
the Jets, Giants and Raiders, boy, they had good edge rushers.
They could have done themselves well drafting another quarterback. So
(08:24):
the Atlanta Falcons said, yeah, we watched the Jets and
the Raiders in Cleveland and the Steelers and the Vikings
and the Falcons we don't do that. So what we
want to do is draft a young guy after we
sign an old guy, ensuring that regardless of what happens,
we've got the future and we've got the present covered. Yeah.
(08:47):
A lot of those bad NFL teams last year that
were a circus at quarterback. Cleveland had Miles Garrett, you know,
the Jets had Bryce Hoff, the Raiders had Max Crosby,
the Giants have Thibodeau. I had great eddrushers. There were
a clown show at quarterback, and the Falcon said, no,
we don't want to do that, and that's a catastrophe.
(09:10):
I looked up an article that was printed after I
defended Atlanta back during the draft, and I'll just read
you basically what I said. Every great asset in America, everyone,
it could be a yacht, it could be your mansion,
has an insurance policy having two capable quarterbacks is a disaster.
And most insurance policies you pay into them for years
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and you never make any money out of it. You
never get anything back. It's a one way street. Atlanta
is going to have an insurance policy Michael Pennick's for
just one year, and then it's going to pay them
like an annuity for the next fifteen. That's a disaster.
It was all Belichick's allies and old heads. It reminds
(09:53):
me of baseball living in their echo chamber complaining about
the pitch clock. It works. Next issue, the games are
better attendant up ratings out pitchclock works. Having an extra
quarterback does not rise to the level of catastrophe. The
Vikings are already out one of their quarterbacks, Matt Stafford's
(10:14):
already missing time with a sore hammy. Listen, you can
be a linebacker shy, an edge rusher shy. They're always
available at the trade deadline. It's not a scarcity issue.
It's a cost issue. You're willing to pay for it.
So what do you know? The Atlanta Falcons to everybody crushed.
(10:37):
Now they have their future quarterback, their present quarterback, a
Pro Bowl level safety and a great edge Rusher ah,
and they'll be just fine without Belichick. They'll be just fine.
I promise you. I may not bet them every week.
I've learned from that. But it's all gonna be okay. Jmac,
(11:00):
you know you love college basketball more than almost anybody
I know, and you bet it very well. I've given
you credit for years. You bet it very well.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I had, I've had some good runs. I'm probably more
well versed in the NFL than I am college who but.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're everybody should be in our space.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You have to be yes.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay. But though and I used to love it, I
covered you and l V out of college, and then
it became a turnstile and nobody stays in college. And
you know, you watch the draft, it's like what country,
what league, what G league? What school is that guy from?
It feels like you're being constantly in an introduced to
new people. I have no connection with them, so it's
(11:36):
too much of a turnstyle. I do think it's I
think it's flipping back with the nil that more guys
will stay in school at the Kansas, Carolina, Villanova, Syracuse
top schools. Very interesting though. J Mack is that the
NBA schedule came out and it once again proves the
(11:57):
biggest blunder. Adam Silver has made it once again proves
and I like Adam Silver and you and I like
the NBA, but they have an issue and their new
schedule proves it. Oh boy, we'll talk about that coming up,
Jimmy Johnson, Hall of Fame Coach, Top of Next Hour.
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Speaker 1 (12:25):
So, the NBA released its schedule next year. Do you
know who's going to have the most games on? Not
the best team, Lebron James thirty nine. Do you know
who's going to be second? Not a top five team?
(12:45):
Steph Curry. Now, the Celtics and the Knicks have really
good teams and I'd put them on a lot too.
Season number twenty two, Lebron has the most, and season
number sixteen, Steph is a second. All these young NBA
stars most don't move the needle. Jah morant A'll catch
(13:08):
his highlights on Twitter if he's healthy. Zach Levine dunk contest, Okay,
Lebron and Steph It doesn't work that way in the NFL,
where even in Tom Brady's last few years in the league,
there's more promotions for Josh Allen and Mahomes and Jalen
(13:29):
Hurts and the rising stars. Because the NFL has never
marginalized college football. They celebrate it. Watch the draft coverage.
They're rooting for them, promoting them, marketing them. They're microwavable stars.
Even the guys that are overdrafted, like Tim Tebow, are
selling jerseys like hot takes, as they say day one
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in the league. Adam Silver's a good commissioner in my opinion.
He just got seven billion a year in revenue. He
has one big hole. He marginalized college basketball, not understanding
how valuable it is the fact that in year twenty
two and year sixteen, Lebron and Steff dominate the TV
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coverage because we don't know who the hell any of
these college guys are. That's if they go to college,
maybe they go to the G League. The greatest example
of how effective college basketball is isn't with men, it's
with women. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese came into the
WNBA with a baked in rivalry. I couldn't wait to
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watch ratings indicate either. Could you I only know who
these guys are not because of their Twitter highlights from
the euro leagues or the G League because they play
at Carolina, Villanova, Kansas and Duke. But Adam Silver decided,
very very early in his stewardship of the NBA, getting
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that baton from the late and great David's earn college
basketball bad. No, Michael Jordan, Magic, Johnson Bird. You fell
in love with him in college, couldn't wait to watch him?
I mean the minute Michael Jordan, Burden Magic were in
the league, let's go build campaigns around him. Lebron and
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Stepp will dominate TV coverage. Isn't that crazy? Like the WNBA?
And I'll say this, even before Caitlyn and Angel Reyes
got to the WNBA, the ratings growth among women's basketball
was actually admirable. Now now, Caitlin Clark is jet fuel,
but it was growing faster than the NBA. Why because
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you knew who the girls were you watch them at
Yukon face South Carolina. I'm not a devotee of women's basketball.
I wasn't. I'm more of it now, but I know
who the Yukon players are So this goes back to
college sports. Are your ally, not your enemy. Adam Silver
had this, players must be paid at eighteen or the
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sport of the league is radically right wing. It's a business.
It's like I don't pay interns. There's huge value, and
now the players are getting paid. Like you know how
much money you can make on shoes over G League
contracts five years ago? How much money Zion made in
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shoes in making that if he went to the G League.
So this is you know, the WNBA draft this year,
and I'm not the only one. I watched the WNBA draft.
I sat there for an hour and a half and
I knew the top six to seven players. I watched
the NBA draft, which got terrible ratings despite the fact
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that players are better than ever. It's the only sport.
Now you realize that it's the only sport. Ratings aren't
growing up. F One's going up, NFL's going up, College football, WNBA, Olympics,
World Cup, copa's NBA down because they're relying on Steph
and Lebron still, which by the way, I love both.
I love both. But the reason the young guys don't
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move the needle because they go to the G League,
and then they go to a bad NBA team that
doesn't make the playoff for several years, and it's like,
then you want me to fall in love with them
Overnight's not how it works. We're all more distracted than
ever it. We're all more distracted. But college football, I mean,
I can't wait to watch Caleb Williams. Cannot wait. Wouldn't
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if he went to a rival league, the G League
in football, I'd be like, yeah, his Twitter videos, Okay,
I've watched Caleb boy and played twenty times. I can't
wait to watch molite neighbors. I can't wait to watch
Jaden Daniels. I have a relationship with them. Caitlin Clark
for two years was a rock star in college. She
had a rivalry with Angel Rees. Let's go, let's bring
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it to the pros. Immediate you're just like burd Magic.
Immediately you're like, oh, they're all stars. These girls, they
come out, they're all stars. So I'm praying hoping the
NIL will help college basketball and keep some NBA guys
around for one more year. If a kid can make
eight hundred thousand dollars, Tom I is, Oh, Michigan State,
why go to the G League, kick button, the Big ten,
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get marketed, get a better shoe deal. But it is fascinating,
is it not? That the NBA ratings are going down,
NFL college football going up, Women's going up, Olympic going up,
COPA going up. We need relationships and we have none
with these young NBA players. We would have them. If
they went to Duke in Kansas, we'd have it. If
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they went to Carolina, well we don't, and so they
go to crappy teams, sort of disappear. Maybe we see
them in a dunk contest. All that we're doing here,
all this stuff I'm doing all sports is just an
emotional tunnel. I'm trying to get you hooked to me.
You're trying to get leagues or trying to get you
hooked to them. When Brady was older, they weren't promoting
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Brady and all the commercials.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
They were promoting Mahomes and Lamar and there were kids.
There were kids like Caleb Williams is all over that
first weekend Chicago Bears. There's a reason you're watching it
because of USC, not because of the Bears. The Bears
have been around forever and you haven't been watching You're
watching it because of college football and what you watched
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J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
News No, no, no, the news. This is the herd
Line news.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I mean it's a good take, But Colin, I just
looked this up because it was so dumbfounded by it.
So you're not perturbed but surprised that Curry and Lebron
lead the way in TV games.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Right by a law, by a large margin. Yeah, by
a law.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
So in twenty twenty one, the Olympics were happened, and
the men's basketball team, not featuring Curry or Lebron, led
by like Kevin Durant, a bunch of guys, nine point
three million viewers for their gold medal win. Fast forward
to this summer featuring Lebron and Curry nineteen point five
million viewers for the US men's team.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I would say it's largely driven by Curry and Lebron.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Would you agree, Well, we have such connections to them.
You love or hate Lebron, You mostly love Curry. We
have relationships with All I'm saying is we could expedite
the relationships with the younger players if they'd been at
Duke for a couple of years and the NBA would,
instead of marginalizing them, would promote the fact they've been
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at Duke.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I bet you could ask some hardcore NBA fans, hey,
we're to Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Go to college.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
People would not. Now I know because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, Jojia, But most people wouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Most people would not because they don't have a relationship
with him. And he was like good, but they didn't
even make.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
The NCAA tournament, Like they weren't good. And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I mean, I get the Lebron Curry push, but some
of these young guys, they're just not Like, are people
tuning in on a Tuesday in November to watch Anthony
Edwards at like seven thirty?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't think so. Are they tuning in for Curry?
And I think the answers, yes, Lebron, you'll give a luxie, right,
you'll at least check it out.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah. Then this goes to my basic theory is the
NBA it does a poor job of connecting with college
elevating March badness. It is all about get the guys paid,
Let's get him to a G league, and it's like
they're gonna get enormous deal. I mean, the highest paid
athletes in America are NBA players. If you're good enough,
you're gonna be rich. By the time you're twenty four
years old, you're gonna have more money than you'll ever spend.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I would say, keep an eye on Cooper Flag this year.
There's gonna be a big push.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
By the way, going to Duke, I'll watch you and
I will watch him play twenty times, so by the
time he comes out, I'm like, I can't wait to
watch Cooper Flag. That's not because of Cooper Flag. It's
because of Duke plus Cooper Flat, plus the network that
airs him. And that by the way, when you stay
in college, you not only get the love from Duke,
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but all these major schools have relationships with Nike or whoever.
And then you also get networks promoting you. Fox and
ESPN and NBC, CBS are promoting you. There is so
much free every company in America that starts, including the
volume when I started it, the first thing you're looking
for is marketing. College basketball and football give pro leagues
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free marketing hundreds of millions. The NFL embraces it. NBA doesn't.
They're not there and that's why we don't know the
young stars.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
All right, let's start with CD Lambs holdout looking for
a contract extension. I mean, Kyle, we could be doing
this for another two weeks. So the rivals of the Cowboys,
the Philadelphia Eagles. Their quarterback Darius Slay has chimed in
on his Big Play Slag podcast about Cede Lamb and
he took a shot at Jerry Jones in the process.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Because I'm all for it. Oh, I may I get
paid because he is one of the best receivers out
of the league. And for Jerry to see his say,
he is not in a rush to get him situated.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
He's kind of crazed.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
One of your best players on your team, and you're
not in a rush to get him you know his word.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
It'd be hard for me to play for an organization
like that, as a guy that's just not wanting to
take care of his guys.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, I will say, when you draft somebody in the
first round and they hit and you mess around with it,
it sends a message to your other employees. I mean
Micah Parson first round hit, Ceedee Lamb first round hit.
If you don't. What's the point of drafting guy, What's
the point of the draft if you're not going to reward.
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Now again, it's one you don't have to reward everybody.
Some guys don't. But Ceedee Lamb is better than I
thought he would be in college at Oklahoma. I was like,
I don't know, I don't know. It's kind of skinny.
I don't know. He is over delivered on his contract,
over delivered. So it's like, yeah, you gotta be careful.
You're sending messages to players when you don't take care.
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Not only is Ceedee Lamb great and his outperformance contract,
but he plays a crucial position. Again, if he was
a safety, I totally get saying we're just not gonna
pay a safety top of market. But edge rusher, quarterback,
perimeter weapon, left tackle and you draft him and they
hit pay. You pay Miles Garrett as long as he
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can walk. If you're the Browns.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I theorize this on my podcast this week.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Do you believe that Jerry is gonna get all the
deals done with his guys? He's just doing this to
keep the Dallas name out there in the ether? Talk
about us on the Herd, The Dallas Cowboys are being
talked about every day because of players who are not
signed every single day. And then you know Jerry at
the last minute's going to come in ceedee lamb hiats
paid receiver in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I love my guys.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I treat him great, and he got all this juice
of us talking about Dallas?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Is that? What do you think of that theory?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I would worry less about getting juice and more about
getting my best players in a timing position. With a
quarterback in camp, I just think. I think, I think
companies send messages all the time, and I think you
have to be careful about it. You got to you.
The whole draft is trying to find stars. Micah and
CD are stars and valuable. They both outperformed their draft space.
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I think. I mean, did anybody think Micah was gonna
be the I thought Michael was word to go out
of Penn State.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Remember he took the final year.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
It was like a COVID year and he just sat
out and people were like, ooh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, I remember we were like, hey, it should be good.
He was dominant his second week in the league.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So it's when you do that, like seed I'm serious
on this with c. J. Stroud, He's in year two.
By the end of next year, you still have two years.
You don't have to pay him. I would sign him.
I would send the message you deliver and people say
that's crazy, but you're gonna save money.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
In the long term to pay early. Hey early, get Mary.
A topic we talked about this week.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
The Cowboys now have the highest valuation of any franchise
in American sports.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Right ten billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Part of that is people talking about the Cowboys all
the time. I think, my guess is this is a
master's stroke by Jerry. He's just let's let this string
out and then give Cede Lamb all the money, which
you know probably is not a great deal.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But he's getting the milk. He's getting the juice.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Out of this. You know, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
That would not be how I would run an NFL FOW.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I agree, he's also not into juice.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm into rewarding my best employees and getting him into camp.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Next up, Russell Wilson is set to start in his
Steeler's debut tomorrow against the reeling Buffalo Bills. Mike Tomlin
said that the first team units are scheduled to play
roughly four series in the contest. Justin Field certainly didn't
do anything to challenge that with a.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Couple of picks last week.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Took a couple of bad sacks, but he'll also get
a crack tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
What are your thoughts, Russell Wilson? Does he have something
to prove against the Bills?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't know. I just want to watch it. I
think his journey is weird. I think he's weird. It's
gotten weird, it's it's so it's just crazy. He's got
He went from good enough to get people drafted. I
mean he got Baker and the Johnny Manziels, he got
him drafted, Kyler Murray like Kyler Murray was like a
more athletic version of Russell Wilson under he literally got
guys drafted like Steph Curry's gotten guys drafted like just shooters.
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And then all of a sudden, from that to Pete's
like I'm out to a catastrophe in Denver, Sean Payton's
like I'm not interested, and then Pittsburgh gets him for free,
and You're like, is this the end? It is? Now?
It does look like it's been established after Justin Herbert
Justin Field's first performance, that Russell has established a pecking order,
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which is Russ one Field's work in progress. So I
think that's good. But I'm really interested to see how
this works.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
People forget the Russell Wilson narrative. Remember he was drafted,
I believe, third round out of Wiscon consin. So it
started at NC State, was awesome, and then the coaches like, yeah,
we're moving on, goes to Wisconsin. I think they went
to a Rose Bowl. But the Seahawks the year they
drafted him, they had just signed Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You remember that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I remember it.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It was signed into a huge contract.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Russ has had like an uphill climb his entire time
in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Oh it's the legional boom, it's not Russ.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
And then he had the issues in Denver and now
like he has had a weird, strange journey.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I'm rooting for him. I just don't think it's gonna
go great in Pittsburgh. Comma.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
It doesn't look like they're getting a Yuke now, right,
So it's it's just gonna be Pickens.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
They got a nice tight end a couple of good
running backs.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And an offensive line that's been in flocks for seven years.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, conservative, defensive minded coach.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
I don't love it. Final story, now that this is spicy,
I don't think any other stories they're talking about this college.
So Anthony Slater of The Athletic dropped an interesting NBA
piece on Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Comes out right after the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Slater, warriors have great beat guys.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
He's speculated Golden State's declining roster might be wearing on
Steph Curry. They struck out on Paul George, they struck
out on Lawry Markinen, and they lost Klay Thompson.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And they also after Lebron Remember last year.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Steph has two years left on his deal and has
until October twenty first of this year to decide whether
or not he would like to extend an additional year.
Curry will reportedly take his time in making that decision.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, they're not a championship club. Hell no, noto, And
I mean, okay, see between the picks.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
They might be a playing team.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But I think they are a playing team.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, the West is stacked.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, I think Golden State. Nobody roots for Golden State
more than me. We both love Curry, Kurr, Draymond. I'm
i'm I think POD's a good player. Kaminga is just talented,
but he's not moving the needle in the playoffs. It's
it's Steph, it's Draymond and guys, and that's in the West.
That is not a top three four seed.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'll continue to ask this question.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Is Steph Curry shooting up for the Warriors on Game
one in the fall of twenty twenty five, So after
this season, is he suiting up Night one for the
Golden State Warriors or not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think he'll just re sign. I think he'll trust
Kerr and Dunlevy, and I think Joe lakeb I think
I think it's like it's like Jeter, he didn't have
a lot of years left, and I think he is
so embedded in that franchise. We don't even know the
relationship Joe Lacob and Steph. How many how many tech
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companies do you think Curry's invested in that Joe Lacob
has made him probably three hundred million dollars in tech companies.
Let you don't know me late, Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think what Michael Jordan and his career.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I forgot you know, Michael Jordan was bitter and didn't
like Rhyin Storff or Jerry Krause.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Steph could be getting there.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
They don't improve the roster.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think people understand the relationship, what the ownership,
the the affection Kerr and Curry have reached out, or
the respect.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That stuff can exaporate quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Maybe in your prime, but I don't think so. Remember
Jordan always felt he was being screwed over in chicag
Patrick Youwing.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I could name a two dozen athletes who are.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Absolutely but Patrick Ewing didn't win squad. Curry's got a trophy.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Roachem Elijah won won two titles, ended up in Toronto, Well,
Brett Farr, Aaron Rodgers, like so many guys, I'm just
so many super Kansas City cheese.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But again, there was some acrimony with Walsh Montana.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
They had Seve Young waiting in the winds. I get
that there's circumstances everywhere, but.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
There are there and I'm not one. I am not
one of these romanticized the past guys. But there are
occasional athletes like Jeter would have looked ridiculous, even in
a Braves Jersey. It's just it's a chipper. Jones was
a little bit like that, like he's a Southerner, it's
the Braves.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I just, oh wait, Wade Bogs legendary.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But he didn't feel like he I know more about
his chicken diet than I do about didn't. I don't
play for the come on, like, I just there are
very few, but there's there are people Like when Brady left,
I was like, oh yeah, but yeah, he didn't have
dinner in twenty two years with Belichick. He was subversive
or subservient to him. He literally had to take pay cuts.
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I got Brady leaving. They couldn't draft receivers. I totally
got Brady leaving. Cheeter's like, we have a huge payroll.
We usually have a guys that hit behind me are good?
Why leave for one great year with Blank? I don't
get Like I get why Griffy left, go back to
his hometown Seattle to Cincinnati. Most of these guys, even
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if they're old, I get it. Gretzky left Canada. He
wanted to make money. He was winning at Edmondson. He
wanted to get you know, I got it. Steph's gonna
do what Where's he gonna go?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I don't I mean, he's gonna have options. Give him
what we just saw in the Olympics. I wonder if
there's something that went down in Paris with Curry and
I don't know Lebron James, who looked super duper cheting.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
What could the Lakers give the Warriors? Literally, talk to
me in a year. Here's Austin Reeves in the second rounder.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well let's not go overboard.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
But Brodny put Roddy at a bad I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't have anything to get I do think this
is an awesome topic. Steph Curry leaving the Warriors because
they screwed it up at the end.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
No, I just don't want to see it. Listen, just
you don't want to see it.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I mean, and I'm not a sport Curry above the Warriors,
like I put Curry here in the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Words, Well, you're a young fan that young fans, that's
how what the research says, young fans like player over team.
I'm a little more old school. I kind of root
team over player, although in some instances, like I like
watching Curry more than the Warriors. Yeah, I like the
Curry Draymond Dynamic and Curry Special. I don't know, that's
a weird one. That's jeter even the Yanks to me
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too much success to leave j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You ever wanted to go to a party and meet
like Usher? I mean, you're at the same party, but
there's a certain rope you can't get past, but you
can tell your friends a month later he hi partying
with Usher. That's a little bit what is happening in
college football and we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I reported this earlier in actually I got it
from Christy Dash Sports Business. The college football season preview
at stub Hub shows forty two percent growth in ticket sales,
and they have a specific reason why. It's fueled by
the new matchups in conference realignment. That's what's fueling it,
all the new stuff everybody was fearful of Texas Oklahoma
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playing SEC teams, Oregon, Washington, and FCUCLA playing Big ten teams.
That's what's fueling it, the stuff everybody was terrified of.
I do think it's interesting. There's a lot of reasons
this is gonna be the biggest college football season ever.
I'm for including as many people as you can at
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a party, right, Like college football should not be a
country club, right, it should be more like a neighborhood
party where everybody at least gets an invitation. Maybe you
don't stay around to the end and have fun when
they open up that thirteenth bottle of wine, but you
get invited, right, and the twelve team college football Playoff.
It's not going to change outcomes Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon.
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Big Dog's still gonna win Alabama, but it's going to
appear that it's more fair, and that's a big deal.
Utah and Liberty are not winning this thing, or Boise State,
but now they get invited to the party. I mean,
I invest in the stock market. I've got a four
to one k. Sixty one percent of America is in
the stock market. We all know it's still run by
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six or seven big firms and banks, but we're allowed
to play two sixty one percent of us get a
play along, and maybe it elevates our retirement a little.
I mean, the college basketball Playoff has sixty eight teams.
Here's the last ten to twelve winners. Yukon, Yukon, Kansas, Nova, Nova, Carolina, Yukon, Duke,
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Oh Baylor's snuck in. Well, Baylor's now a top ten
twelve program. So but it's important that Saint Peter's or
Loyola of Chicago or a VCU they need to be
part of the story too. So you know, it's it's
it's again. All these college programs they just felt like
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it was a country club. They couldn't get in. And
maybe maybe like a country club, it'll be more like
a social membership to Liberty Boise State, it'll be a
social membership. You can play like once a month, but
you can use the pool, right, and you're not gonna
be a full fledged member. That's gonna be Georgia and Texas.
But that's okay, that's okay. It opens things up, it
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feels more fair. It doesn't necessarily change the outcome. You
and I will never have any pull on Wall Street.
That's nice to play along, right, puts everybody a little
better mood. You're part of the party. So urban Meyer
was on yesterday, and you know it. There's he's coached
in the Big Ten that he dominated, and while he
was in his prime down there, he dominated the SEC.
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So that's rare territory. And I asked him, I said,
I think the PAC twelve schools, I think they're going
to do fine in the Big Ten. But Texas, Oklahoma,
from the pillow fight of the Big twelve to the
brawl of the SEC, I think it's going to be
a shock to the system. And here's Urban on that.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
The difference calling is that damn defensive line and linebackers,
the way they run in the South and the SEC
and the way they take their football. So there's there.
I count eight. Now you have Texas and Oklahoma. I
count ten teams that really they're alumni, they're budgeted, and
their fans expect them to compete for a national title.
In the Big Ten, you know, youve got Ohio State,
(38:45):
and over ange, you got Penn State, And now I
put USC in that category. Oregon is getting close. You know,
they played in a couple of national championship games, so
they're very very close. Washington played in a championship game.
They're very close. But until you win that dark thing,
you know, I don't know if you can put them
up there. So I think the SEC is a whole
different level as far as top to bottom.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I think there's also this misconception that these West Coast
teams will not be able to handle the frigid weather
of like Chicago, folks. USC's toughest road game is November
two in Seattle. You do get it, rains, it's windy,
it snows, it's cold. In the Pacific Northwest, it'll be
(39:29):
just fine. And also, college football the Big Ten schedule.
You know, it's not playing into January, so I think
that's overstated. I think the Pac twelve teams will do
just fine. I don't think I think Oregon is as
good as Ohio State this year. In fact, I think
Oregon will beat them in Eugene. But I think Ohio
State has a chance to win the national championship. I
(39:49):
like them, as you know, over the course of time,
more and more players. But the Texas Oklahoma to the SEC,
that's a whole different ballgame that the body saw. The
bodies are different, the intensity. Also, you have these massive
even like the basketball school Kentucky. They got seventy thousand
people at their stadium. So I think we all think
(40:12):
a lot of this narrative is at Texas Oklahoma. It's
just a little easy pivot. No, I don't think so.
I think it's an easier pivot for Oregon to go
to the only school right now in the Big Ten
that has Oregon athletes, there's one Ohio State, and they
get a host them. I mean, USC doesn't even have
to play Ohio State this year, and they get Michigan
(40:33):
with an unproven coach rebuilding the whole program. They're gonna
be fine, Jimmy Johnson on a Friday Hour two the
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