August 17, 2024 • 39 mins
Richard Sherman interviews San Francisco 49ers cornerback Deommodore Lenoir. Deommodore updates Richard on the 49ers training camp including the debut of new DC Nick Sorensen, the return of Talanoa Hufanga, and the vibes without Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams. They discuss his upcoming contract year, San Francisco's revenge game vs. Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs in Week 7 of the NFL season, Deommodore's Tom Brady encounter, how guarding Justin Jefferson in a joint practice with the Minnesota Vikings was the moment that changed his career, and what Deommodore and the 49ers defense has in store for Aaron Rodgers in their Week 1 matchup vs. the New York Jets.
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
Man, go ahead. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.
And we got a very very special guest rejoining us,
Diamador Lenor, cornerback for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Happy to have him. Excited to talk to him about
this upcoming season, his goals, and maybe some of the
games from the past season.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
What's up, what's up doing good?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Your fault is flying now?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, went by fast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right right? You playing a lot of football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I felt like I was just I was just coming
in here trying to earn a name right right now,
it's here and everybody knows me, so it's kind of
it's a surreal feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Gotta be you gotta be and you got a little boring.
Oh yeah, our big boy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, just to yeah, just to have him. And then
you know, with him noticing like, you know, the stuff
I do now and me playing football and then now
he wanted to play catch and stuff. You know, it's
you know, it's it's a it's a great feeling, you know,
a great dad feeling, you know, it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is it is Kyle still the way you still at
the house. Are you at the It's still at the hotel?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh, now we at the house.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
He let us you know, after the first game, you know,
he loosened up on us.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, okay, yeah, he didn't get soft in his old age.
That's good though, that's good. How you feeling about training camp?
It's been Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Man, I feel like I've been having my best training
camp you know so far, you know, with me just
being in the NFL, and I feel like this is
one of those years for me, you know, ready to
take that next step?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Right right, I mean, what next step can you take?
You didn't played in every big game. You didn't played
really good football in all the big games, you know,
played and what what you're playing six seven playoff games now?
Oh yeah, and played really well. Tell me about that, Like,
how how is that feeling now? Because you're not only
a veteran, but you're a playoff VET in a Super
Bowl VET. So do you feel like even more confidence,
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even more ad ease you know, going?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I would say yeah, I'm more, I'm more poised
out there, especially you know with just like when the
ball is coming, you know, it's more it's not like
a panic no more. It's like it's my ball, like,
so it's like kind of a different feeling. And then
like with just the playoffs, everybody is expecting me to
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make a play or like get a turnover. So I
feel like that's that's what it's expect is expected of me.
So you know, that's kind of like my standard. That's
kind of how I push myself, you know, with just
you know, just that feeling, you know, just wanting to
get that feeling back.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
How's the energy around the team. I mean, obviously it's
always some kind of chaos going on in training camp.
It was Nick last year. It was b A and
Trent this year. But it's a veteran groups. I'm sure
everybody handling it pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, every everybody's under control, they knowing like it's gonna
get done at some point. We just, you know, everybody
just ready for Week one really, just you know, the
emotions is high, you know, just ready to get that
feeling back, get back out there, you know, because we
left with a sour taste. You know, we're losing the
super Bowl. So everybody just really want to get back
out there and just show what we got.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I believe you me, I know how I feel. It's
not good. Boy.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah that was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I know, Uh what's you thinking? Nick?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Oh, he's he's great, you know. Uh, you know the
energy level he brings, you know, to the defensive room.
And then everybody is more familiar with him, you know,
because he was already on staff and you know, he
used to always be in front of the team, presenting
third down and stuff like, so he has attention of
the room already. So we just need that, you know,
that game, get that first game, jitters out for everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Really, how much different is it having Nick than it
was having Steve? Because I know Steve want to bring
random zero pressures and pressure, and he's all fire zone,
fire zone, get to the quarterback, get to the quarterback.
I was with Nick for a long time, so I
would assume he sit back, let the four rush, and.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's more of, yeah, let the front eat.
You know, we sit back, you know and play, you know,
play our sound defense and you gotta literally pick us
apart from every angle. So you know, I kind of
I kind of like that model too also too, you know,
I'm more of like a team player. I'm with, you know,
whatever coach called, I'm gonna try to execute.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It right right as you should be, as you should be.
How is it feel I saw Huff out there for
a little bit. I don't know if he out there
fully practicing yet, but it looked like he was in
good spirits. How's it been having back around?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh? Man, his energy, you know, Huff. You know, it's
a guy. He's a guy like he's hard not to like,
you know, he just you know, so positive. He brings
so much energy to the room and just when he speaks,
you know, everybody listen.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like he's just a natural moren leader for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is he for sure is Hey, all I've been here
is you've been killing during camp. Obviously it's a contract year.
They got you playing inside, they got you playing outside.
How are you feeling about that? Are you are you
trying to trying to spend more of your time outside?
You know there are coaches that have said if you
would have played inside the Super Bowl, the game would
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have went different. But that's the story for a different day,
you know, shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I believe that also, you know, I'm I'm more
like whatever the team needs, you know. But like with
the contract part, you know, it just got to make sense,
like you know, it can't just be you know, something
that that that's really not my worth, I would say,
but like just you know, being here and playing here,
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like you know, I love this team and I love
everything about it, the organization and just me me wanting
to execute and be be one of those you know,
pro Bowl players, all pro players.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'll just constantly you know, and uh preach to myself
that I just got to work and just you know,
be be one of them guys, like I got to
show up. Like so that's kind of like the chip
I'll play with on my shoulders, like, I just have
to show.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up right right, and it's gonna be that way until
you get paid. After you get paid a couple of
years later, Like, it's gonna be that way. You gotta
stay hungry and you gotta stay after it. But I've
been proud of you, man, I've been really proud of
your growth. You played really well. You you you showing
up and showing out. You got a family. Now they
said your kid broke the record at Kaiser, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wow was that it was?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It was actually crazy because you know, they be doing
it in kilos when they when they weigh the babies
and I was looking at it. I was looking at
the numbers and I was like and then I'll just
put up my phone and I start doing the numbers.
I was like, no, this is crazy. Now, this can't
be because they was telling us the whole time that
he was gonna be like seven pounds. So we was
like not expecting a huge, huge baby like that. So
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so when he came out and it happened, and they
was like, this is the biggest baby. Like they gave
us like a certificate, this is the biggest baby that
we didn't had, you know, being born here. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's sane. I hope you got your old lady something
because boy, yeah, yeah, sound like so like Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
What you name me Titan?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay? I like that. I like that went into that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I really liked that Dad just him being so big,
like he was so so we just tightened. It was
just one of those names that really stuck out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So who else? Who else has been showing out in
your opinion and training camp? Obviously you got the rookie
persale who they drafted in the first round, and you know,
I mean, I'm sure you didn't got the up close
and personal. But I try to tell people like rookie
receivers is rare that they're gonna come in and have
all the craftiness to deal with a veteran corner, you
know what I mean. They might get you every now
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and then, But what have you seen from him that
makes you feel optimistic?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I would say, his his worth, his work, work ethic,
Like he one of those guys that you know I
could tell like he put time into his craft, like
just just I don't even know if he noticed, but
like you know, I was watching like his Instagram videos
and like like him when he working working out. I
think he was like in Florida or something, or he
was working out with some trainer, and I was just
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watching him and you could tell like he was real determined.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And then when I seen him like in camp, like like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He showed he showed up on film, like you know,
his his routes and stuff, like his crispiness and his hands.
For sure, he ran. He ran like one of one
of those routes that he ran like a seven stop
on me, and it was like it was like blanket
cut ridge was tight. And then you know, he stuck it.
He stuck his hands out and caught it, and then
we went down to the ground and then he like
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he like spent the ball after and then after that,
after that, I.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Was like, I was like, oh yeah, I gotta get it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I gotta get him back. Like so then you know
we've been battling. You know, it's been a it's been
a great battle. You know. I feel like he's gonna
he's gonna come in and be a good guy, you know,
to come in and help us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I like that. I like that all pro Fred. Obviously,
again you're playing on such a talented defense but still
making an impact what's that? What's those conversations like, because
y'all have been a great defense for I mean since
you've been in the league. Is that do you feel
like the standards the same? Do you feel like guys
are are are making sure they're they're deliberate and intentional
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about keeping god holding the standard and teaching guys like
like the rookies coming in, like Rinardo, who's coming in,
you know, to the standard and teaching him how things
are done so that the next group is ready to play.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh yeah, Fred, you know, he's he is the standard, really,
you know, I mean you've seen him work. Uh, he's
deliberate and walk throughs, you know everything about him. You know,
it's like he's the standard. You know. So a lot
of people see him and walkthroughs and in practice and
then you know coaches, you know, they they actually pointed
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out and like this is like this is how you
get it done. Like and his resume it shows so
like everybody want that same type of resume. So we
all kind of like follow in, follow in the footsteps
and you know, try to try to be you know,
be that you know, but in our own way. Fred
is one of those. He's one of those guys you know,
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like you don't you don't see, you don't come across
him like in this league, and.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It shows like you know, he's different.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like I remember, like my first time getting in there,
it was a preseason against the Raiders. They my first
time at Nickel. It was it was so much communication,
like he was calling out so much stuff and it
was crazy. And I was like after that point on,
I was like, yeah, he wanted them once right, like
he wanted them ones. Like it was just like it
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was undeniable, right, That's how it is.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, I'm sure you're communicating like that now once.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You get h yeah yeah once yeah once you know you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Know yeah yeah. So question, because I never watched, did
you ever get a chance to go back and watch
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah? Yeah, I went back. I had I had to.
I had to watch it, like I just had to see.
But I kind of like I kind of felt because
like I talked to it. I talked to Wilk's like
before the like before the game, and I was just
telling him how I was feeling, you know. I was like,
you know, me, I just I watched a lot of films,
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so I was just seeing where the ball was going
and I was like, it's mainly in between the hashes,
you know, it's on to the slots. Like they don't
really got no dominant outside guy. So like I was
telling him, like I feel like I should be in
the slot this game. Like I never came to him
never because I never questioned the coach, never questioned decisions
and nothing. I came to him. That was the only
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time I came to him. And I and I said,
and I said that, but you know, they had their
philosophy and what they felt worked, well what was going
to work, and they made that decision. So I was like,
all right, I'm gonna just roll with it. I'm gonna
just try to do what I can to help us win.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, look, i'm gonna tell you this from experience and
as an old man who don't play no more. Let's
go talk to Kyle. Like at that point, look, if
you get, if you get any kind of feeling in
your heart, any kind of England, any kind of just
go talk to Kyle and let it. It's his team.
It's just what do you want to do with it?
Because I think that moved a needle. Next time, Like
if you just said that to him, you would have
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been playing inside the super Bowl and that would have
been the end of it. Like he would have lived
with it. He would have lived with it because it
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That had to feel good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All you got. Let's talk you got Tom Brady reached out.
He said Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's good.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Because because I kind of have my heart to her
with Tom Brady, like after that Bucks game when we
when we played we played them, it was like my
first time meeting them, like seeing them it was like crazy.
That was like one of the craziest feelings. I was like, Wow,
this is Tom Brady, Like I've been watching him for
a long time, like and I'm actually seeing him up
in person, and then like I'm talking to him and
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shaking his hand and like we conversating it. It was
like that was.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Crazy, right, It don't even feel real when you're talking
to it, right.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, it was like it was like, man, I didn't
seen you on TV so many times and never thought
I'd be speaking to you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right right, and good he a good dude. Man. I
liked h So this year, you know, year four, you
got you established. People know who you are, Opponents know
who you are, what receivers you're looking forward to facing
this year. And don't tell me everybody, because I.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Mean the whole schedule, the whole schedule on the menu,
I ain't gonna lie to you. Like week one, we
starting off week one, Garrett Wilson. He's on there because
you know, the league respect him. Justin Jefferson. Of course
you see his contract, but we justin Jefferson the most
really because when we had that joint practice, I felt
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like me going against him really helped me make the
team right that year, because like I was coming off
of a rookie slum or what like the doghouse, and
you know, my second year, they was already you know
that we drafted some guys and I was already in
a bad position. Well I felt like it kind of
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was looking like I was in a bad position to
where I was like fighting for a roster spot. So
like I was seeing like all the articles and stuff,
and I was like I was like thinking in my head,
like this can't be true because like I know how
good I am, Like this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So then like that that whole second year, it was
like a big.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Drive, like I'm like like I'm I'm taking my shot,
like I'm going in, like I'm doing whatever I gotta
do to make this team because like I ain't never
I ain't grubged like to be like I was never
trying to be number two, Like I was always trying
to be one. Like I was always trying to be
the one like that guy. So so just seeing those articles,
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it was like it was like crazy to me, like wow,
like this is what they think, like all right, So
then I just locked in. When I moved to Arizona,
I had moved to Arizona, I was my son was
like six months and I was just study. I was
studying film like this the most film I probably ever watched. Like,
I was just studying film, and uh, I was hitting
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you up, I hit I hit you up. You know,
I was talking to you. And then I was I
started watching film like, I started locking in, started learning
concepts and start like it. Stuff started making making sense.
So then I start I started pairing it with you know, playbook,
so I'll put myself through a call to the playbook
and then it was like it started getting easy. So
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then I started to see it. So then once we
came back, that's when the coaches was telling me, like,
you look like a different player now, like and I
was like it just had to make sense for me.
So that was like kind of like my whole little
second year jump. And then what drove me into making
the team. So when I got lined up against Justin Jefferson.
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How I remember Kyle was standing right behind him watching
and I was like, this is my shot to make
the team, really like right here. So then that rep
I think he like he ran like a dig route.
I broke it up and then I looked at Kyle
and he was smiling. So I was like, all right,
I'm in the plus. So then the whole practice, I
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was like like every time everywhere, Justin Jefferson was going.
I'm like like I'm trying to I'm telling Ambry like
I'm trying to follow him, like like I need this one.
So he motioned over. He run it out. He catch it,
but it's like tight covers. He catch it. So yeah,
we're talking. We're going back and forth. Run players going
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at it. We're going at it. He like this time
he run a hitch. I covered a hitch and then
he scrambled drill and then scrambled drill and then he
running down the field and then they throw it. They
throw a D ball. You know I did up. You
know I'm talking. I'm like, We're going at it the
whole practice. So then I felt like after that, after that,
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it was kind of like respect. And then I went
and then I bought in the game, and then that's
when I felt like I was in a better position
to make the team.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Bro, that's inspired. Bro, you gonna have to tell that story.
You're gonna have to tell that story a lot. When
you're done, after fifteen years of playing National Football League
or ever long you want to play, You're gonna have
to tell that story. You're gonna inspire some young man
who having a tough camp or having a tough year
to go out there and believe he can get it done.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, that's that Kyle. I knew it. I knew it
because like he never really watching one of I mean
he watching one on ones, but this one, like it
was like a different position, and he was like right there.
He was like like, this is the receivers right in
front of me. He was standing directly behind him. And
then my position, coach, he was like off to the right.
So I was like, this is the one, this, this
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is the rep that that could save me right here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Look a lot of times what you feel is what
it was, what it really is. You know what it
feels like when you're in that bubble and things ain't
going how you want him to go where. Yeah, we
don't want to say it, but football is one of
those other sports you go into that film room every
goddamn day and they tell you exactly how they feel
about you, good, bad, or indifferent.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So and then like at that time, I was I
was running with the threes on like yeah, So it
was like it was looking like, you know, Green Bay.
We played Green Bay that year, like first game, and
I didn't play till like the second I want to
say they put me in in the first quarter because
I think somebody got was tired or they put me
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in and then but I wasn't realistically supposed to play
till like the second quarter. So I was already feeling
like man like ah, Like it was already like I
don't know, but I'm like I'm gonna keep going. I'm
gonna do whatever I gotta do, Like that's just what
it is, Like, I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do.
And then I was like I knew he was having
a joint practice, but I didn't know just if Justin
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Jefferson was gonna practice. But I was like whoever out there,
like right strap, yeah, Like I was that whole camp,
that whole camp like I but I felt like this
camp was like more of like me, you know, perfecting
my craft and trying to, you know, just take my
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game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But bro, that's part of the journeys, Like, like that's
exactly how it was. I was fifth round, just like
you was. You come in, You're fighting for your life.
You don't know up from down. You don't care, like
I'm not about to drown, like I'm about to scrap.
You'all gonna have to put me out of this place. Yeah.
In the second year, Hey, I kind of know what's
going on, but still I'm strapping everybody. I'm about what
I'm about ten toes. And then get thirty year, You're like,
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all right, Like I got it. I got it pretty
much together. Like let me let me lock in. I
want to be oppressed. I want to be a step kick.
Let me schematically, let me understand the concepts, understand the scheme,
understand the team, you know what I mean, how I
can be a leader or how I can impact others.
And then you keep going from there and like you said,
like you start to help other guys, bring other people along,
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and continue to elevate your game because you a dog,
and that's sometimes what Kyle we want to see. That's
why he probably went over there in one on once
because he knew he was like, he probably said something
about you, and then he wanted to go see if
it was true. And so he was like I got
to go see this rep for myself. And you showed
him what he thought he was gonna see. And that's
I respect the hell out of that, because Kyle is
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a straight shooter if you go talk conversation that you
have with him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Because because that same that same like that same training camp,
like in practice he had he had like called me out.
He had called me out and was like like, I
know you a dog, but you gotta show it, like
show it all the time. And I was like wait,
like I felt like I've been showing I'm a dog,
Like this is not dog enough for you? Like so
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then I'm like, uh, like least off now, Like it's
like you just gave me, you just gave me the
keys now, and now on it this this week. I'm
gonna give you what you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Want right right now. Every time I do something, I'm gonnay,
this is what you wanted, this is what you want.
Oh that's that's cool, man, That's that's exactly how I was.
I was scrapping, scratching and fighting, and then after a
while you feel so dominant. You're like, hey, I'm in
one on ones, I'm working tech. I sometimes didn't even
use to chimp button my chin strap. And then office
coordinator be like, you didn't even buffle your trinch strap?
(24:46):
How did you stop that runch? You're not taking it serious.
I was like, I'll tell you that serious. I'm just
I don't give a damn about none of that. I'm
locked into my keys thang. It's all technical. You ain't
gonna speed me up and me not buckling. It is
me just letting you know you not speed me like,
I'm not concerned out here? Yeah, which corners? Did you?
Because we different body type? So I could try to
(25:07):
help you as much as I want. My guy, I've
always meant to talk to you about this Green Bay game.
It might have been two years ago. They gave you PI. Yeah,
you used my move and I could not believe they
called that on you.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You caught, Yeah, that one was. I was kind of
because I was watching. I got all your tape, so
I got everybody like I got yours. I got Reevist,
I got Champ like just all the ghats, you know
what I'm saying. I got all your tape. So I
seen you did it one time and I've seen they
(25:44):
didn't call it. So I was like, that's kind of good,
Like that's a good And I had the white gloves on,
so I was thinking, like you were just gonna get it.
I was gonna get away with it. And I was
surprised they called it. That's why because like after the play,
I start celebrating and then I seen the flag and
I'm like, whoa he saw that?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Like wait, bro, bro, I watched it live, but I said,
I've never seen him call it never.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I was sick. I was sick. I was sick.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I was so clean too.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I thought, yeah, I thought I got away with it,
But it's probably because I was because he was so
much taller than me or something. And they just.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Because because where he was looking from, because where he
threw the flat round, he couldn't have saw your body
to body inside got his here.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah that it was crazy and can that was like
my first game. That was that was my first game
at Nickel too, and yeah, and that that was the
game that Aaron Rodgers had, he had set me down,
like that was my rookie slump, Like after that game,
you know, so that so I got something in store
for him Monday night we won.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I love that. I love that. I love that. Hey
this ain't this ain't the rookie no more. Yeah, you
got your revenge list. We're gonna revisit it during this
middle season. Likes them off. Oh yeah, but man, that's
that's pretty cool. But I like I like that you
(27:09):
let that out because sometimes that that was my biggest
thing in the Senior bowl the Senior Bowls when I
kind of let myself off the leaf because in college
I used to be like, you know, the coaches like
you gotta get lower in your technique, you gotta do this,
you got to do that, And I'm like, bro, if
y'all just leave me alone, I promise you I could
strap y y'all won't be bending down to five ft
six when I'm six three. And that's.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah. Sometimes you can't over coach it. Like sometimes somebody
just got the natural, like God given the ability to
do that, to stand stand tall and be able to
just stop on the dime and you know, change direction,
like some stuff you just can't coach.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right, and so so that's what happened when I got
to the league. They I got to the senior ball,
I was like, I'm gonna do I'm gonna play it
my way. If they gonna cut me and I'm gonna
get eliminade and get sent home, I'm gonna get sent
home doing it how I was supposed to do it. Yeah,
and I did that all the way until I retire.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
All right, it worked out, Yeah, it worked out for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So what's your goal this season? Got to be Pro Bowl?
I'm guessing yeah, Pro Bowl, all Pro.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like I'm setting the I'm setting the bar so high,
like I want to shoot for the stars. Yeah, you know,
because I feel like when I help set myself to
a standard like I'll be expecting to do, I'm trying
to do more than the standard, Like I'm trying to
be higher, like I want to Pro Bowl all Pro.
(28:32):
Five interceptions, Uh, you know a good amount of tackles
because I know they say dB is not supposed to
have a lot of tackles. That mean you're getting the
ball caught on you.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So you know a good amount of tackles where just
strap the whole season.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Right right, right right, get you a few TFLs. You know, somehow.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Sacks I've been I've been doing good like on my
past rush moves now and you know getting to the quarterbacks.
So I feel like I can show case some of
that too.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I like that it all come with experience and time.
It all come experience the time. So in your full year,
your three years, who's been the toughest receiver you saw?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Uh? It was it was It was justin Jefferson, I
would say, because I felt like that was like the
first you know, dominant receiver that you know, I went
against what I was like dominating in the league. Like
I felt like he was the first one that I
actually was able to guard because uh i Man and
(29:32):
uh Mooney, they was both they was both hurt. So
I was I was able to get out there and
you know, actually you know, get with him like a
couple of times. So I felt like I felt like
it was it was him. But like it'll be a
different it'll be a different approach this year because you know,
like I didn't I didn't outgrew that rookie stage and
(29:53):
that you know, that second year of stage. So it'll
be like a different, different battle. So but so far, yeah,
it's been him, I would say him, and then are
you in there? Are you in there? You know, we
didn't have our battles like all training camp last year,
like we was having battles like it was battles like
(30:16):
and he was lining up at the X on the
right side all the time and I played the right corner,
so I was able to see him like majority of
like every day in practice. Every day in practice, we
was going at it right. So I felt like that
that helped boost my game too. And also, you know,
going against Deebo, you know, you never know what you're
gonna get out of debo, Like he can line up
(30:39):
anywhere and do anything really like he's just one of
those players and then he get the ball in his
hand and now you got to tackle him, right, So
like I felt like they all played the part in
you know, making me to who I am, you know,
with just building the confidence.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So the Hyena going from thirty eight to two, what
went into that was it just grow? It was it
just like shdding the rookie young kid and going back.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's definitely what it was. It
was it was that, and then it was like the number,
the number looked way better. I knew it looked better
when when Kyle said in the meeting, like the night
before the game, he was like, oh my god, you
look so much better in two. And that was like,
(31:27):
He's definitely right, because I used to see that thirty eight,
Like even the players I used to make a player,
I used to be like, I wish I had.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
A better number on.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's like, oh man, it's like if I would have
just had two on, maybe I would have had a
way more Jersey sales, right right, people.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Ain't buying that three eight willingly, I'm telling you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I was like I tried to make it look good,
you know, I was trying to do the extra. But
then it was just like nah, I knew. I knew
it was bad. When my my video guys was was
talking about me, they was like, bro, you need to
get rid of that. You're a vent now.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Look look I talked about schar Berry's and Sneed and
then boys in Kansas City. I was like, y'all be balling,
but got the stakest thirty thirty eight. Yeah, I said,
I was hoping he didn't come over to San Francisco
with that three and three five. He had it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He had it at first. He had it at first,
like in Ota when he first came he had the
three five and he's like, I think I'm about to
change my number to seven. I was like seven. I
was like, I gotta I gotta see it. And then
he put on and I was like, all right, yeah
you see it. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh I'm glad he did because he get he gets
a lot more love because he used to ball out.
But people he had that three five old people just
would not get.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I think I definitely played the part too that like
he didn't get much love because he had thirty five.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Like it's more like it's like it's a better look
for sure, no.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Question, no question. So it's Pat. Well, clearly, I'm not
gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna argue who is
the best quarterback. You didn't seen us outside of Pat
and then.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Brock outside of all right, Pat and Brock, Matthew, Stafford,
Crafty Amy and then Kirk Cousins, them two, Like I
slept on them too, because like I always grew up like, oh,
he played for the Lions, all right, he played for
the Redskins, so I didn't really know, like like when
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when Kyle like start breaking down the offense and like
what how they have to read and like you know,
and then it's like the EDG Dressers nowadays is running
FUX three, So you got to do all this and
a matter of time quickness. So I start like, so
once we played Minnesota that week and we lost to
them at their house and Kirk Cousins having the hell
(33:51):
of a game, I was like, I had so much
respect for him after because it was like I didn't
think he could do it. Be honest, I didn't think
he could do it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That that don't look. I'm gonna let you know something.
There's certain quarterbacks that the media get in their little
feelings about that they don't get credit, and Kirk is
one of them. Dudes, you will never hear it from me.
Kirk is one of them. Like he got the right
important cass. He gonna give somebody a long day.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh yeah, for sure. Because I was talking to Trent
about it and he was like, man, I'm telling you
Kirk is good brood. I'm like I'm like, yeah, okay,
we got the Bosa coming off the edge like yeah,
we'll see. Like you know, I was, I'm just you know,
just being young, just thinking of the Kirk Cousins and
the Redskins, like they haven't losing records and stuff. So
(34:38):
I'm thinking like that, and I'm like so then once
I actually seen him and he was standing in there
throwing dots, I was like, wow, that boy was nice.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
He do he can be tripped, but if he if
he all, he gonna get the wall where's supposed to
be going. But oh yeah, for sure. And Stafford just
was in Detroit. The difference between staf after the A
Rod seems great outside, you know what I mean, because
a Rod got the MVPs and all that. On that field,
it is not as great as you think. Like that
(35:09):
boy Stafford can sling the rock sign on here.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah no look, yeah he was. He was throwing a
couple of no looks when we played them versus the Rams.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
He was throwing it.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I was like, wow, like this is Hall of Fame quarterback. Bro.
He was doing the ball like he was putting the
ball to where it was like you couldn't even like
I couldn't even break the ball up. It was like
he's just putting it there right. I'm like, I know
that was great covers. He's just putting it there right.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's a hitch. He throwing it to his back hip
away from you, to the sideline. You're like broro inside pick.
So yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So when I finally intercepted him, I was I was
happy as hell. I was like, I got him back. No,
finally who he even now.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You want to hear a good quarterback? Man, It's it's
a lot of people that that they It's some people
they get too much credit to, and then it's some
people that they just think are cheeks and they not
like Dak. They give Dak a lot of like a
head Dak will get let that beyond Oh yeah yeah
when Dak is on and that's why he was second
team All Pro. But what's your what?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What else? What else you got for me that you're
excited for this season?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Really? That that game versus Case I think I think
that's another game that's on the list that I myself like,
we have to win that game. That game is like
a must win, like we we we got to get
some type of get back and then you know, at
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the end, get another get back, we set it, we
settled it off, like we all on one against them. Well,
I mean since since I've been on the team, we're
one against them. Yeah, we're in two against.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Them against the Yeah you know, yes I do.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But I feel like this year, this is our year,
and we all determined and focused and we know what's
at state, Like we knew like this this could possibly
be the last dance, right, so we know what needs
to be done.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
What you're doing is different this year.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Really just being more like vocal. I feel like last
year I was kind of in a phase where like
I ain't make enough players yet to really you know,
say something or really voice how I feel. Uh. But
this year, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm more of like being in that like trying to
be a leader, like you know, trying to lead and like.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Speak because actually some of the guys in the room,
well most of the guys in the room, like when
I when I do say something, like they actually do listen.
Like I never thought like it was like that, like,
you know, just because I was what I came in
fifth round and you know, then made a couple of players,
but I wasn't really like, you know, the guy in
the room so it was like I really never really
(38:05):
said anything, but like now it's like just like a
different approach.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And I'm sure they appreciate that. I'm sure everybody appreciate that.
In gluting dB oh yeah, DV. Well let me you
got if you got any questions for me. I ain't
gonna take too much more of your day. I know
you got got stuff to do. And get back to
that baby. Oh yeah, I wonder how big he is now?
How big is he now?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Two years old and he's about he's knocking on forty pounds. Yeah,
he wearing four year old clothes. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, see, I thought you had a DD You might
want to just put his hand in the ground and
make him mean, because just come off that got to
come off there. I don't know what he's your next
came from, but that's what we're doing with this back. Yeah.
I love that. I love that. Well, Shoot, I appreciate
you joining me. I'm gonna have you again before the
season is up. If you won't. Oh yeah, you're talking
(39:06):
about it again.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Appreciate you. Be more good luck, all right, appreciate you.
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
Man, go ahead. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.
And we got a very very special guest rejoining us,
Diamador Lenor, cornerback for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Happy to have him. Excited to talk to him about
this upcoming season, his goals, and maybe some of the
games from the past season.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
What's up, what's up doing good?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Your fault is flying now?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, went by fast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right right? You playing a lot of football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I felt like I was just I was just coming
in here trying to earn a name right right now,
it's here and everybody knows me, so it's kind of
it's a surreal feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Gotta be you gotta be and you got a little boring.
Oh yeah, our big boy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, just to yeah, just to have him. And then
you know, with him noticing like, you know, the stuff
I do now and me playing football and then now
he wanted to play catch and stuff. You know, it's
you know, it's it's a it's a great feeling, you know,
a great dad feeling, you know, it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is it is Kyle still the way you still at
the house. Are you at the It's still at the hotel?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh, now we at the house.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
He let us you know, after the first game, you know,
he loosened up on us.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, okay, yeah, he didn't get soft in his old age.
That's good though, that's good. How you feeling about training camp?
It's been Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Man, I feel like I've been having my best training
camp you know so far, you know, with me just
being in the NFL, and I feel like this is
one of those years for me, you know, ready to
take that next step?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Right right, I mean, what next step can you take?
You didn't played in every big game. You didn't played
really good football in all the big games, you know,
played and what what you're playing six seven playoff games now?
Oh yeah, and played really well. Tell me about that, Like,
how how is that feeling now? Because you're not only
a veteran, but you're a playoff VET in a Super
Bowl VET. So do you feel like even more confidence,
(04:09):
even more ad ease you know, going?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I would say yeah, I'm more, I'm more poised
out there, especially you know with just like when the
ball is coming, you know, it's more it's not like
a panic no more. It's like it's my ball, like,
so it's like kind of a different feeling. And then
like with just the playoffs, everybody is expecting me to
(04:32):
make a play or like get a turnover. So I
feel like that's that's what it's expect is expected of me.
So you know, that's kind of like my standard. That's
kind of how I push myself, you know, with just
you know, just that feeling, you know, just wanting to
get that feeling back.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
How's the energy around the team. I mean, obviously it's
always some kind of chaos going on in training camp.
It was Nick last year. It was b A and
Trent this year. But it's a veteran groups. I'm sure
everybody handling it pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, every everybody's under control, they knowing like it's gonna
get done at some point. We just, you know, everybody
just ready for Week one really, just you know, the
emotions is high, you know, just ready to get that
feeling back, get back out there, you know, because we
left with a sour taste. You know, we're losing the
super Bowl. So everybody just really want to get back
out there and just show what we got.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I believe you me, I know how I feel. It's
not good. Boy.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah that was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I know, Uh what's you thinking? Nick?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Oh, he's he's great, you know. Uh, you know the
energy level he brings, you know, to the defensive room.
And then everybody is more familiar with him, you know,
because he was already on staff and you know, he
used to always be in front of the team, presenting
third down and stuff like, so he has attention of
the room already. So we just need that, you know,
that game, get that first game, jitters out for everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Really, how much different is it having Nick than it
was having Steve? Because I know Steve want to bring
random zero pressures and pressure, and he's all fire zone,
fire zone, get to the quarterback, get to the quarterback.
I was with Nick for a long time, so I
would assume he sit back, let the four rush, and.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's more of, yeah, let the front eat.
You know, we sit back, you know and play, you know,
play our sound defense and you gotta literally pick us
apart from every angle. So you know, I kind of
I kind of like that model too also too, you know,
I'm more of like a team player. I'm with, you know,
whatever coach called, I'm gonna try to execute.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It right right as you should be, as you should be.
How is it feel I saw Huff out there for
a little bit. I don't know if he out there
fully practicing yet, but it looked like he was in
good spirits. How's it been having back around?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh? Man, his energy, you know, Huff. You know, it's
a guy. He's a guy like he's hard not to like,
you know, he just you know, so positive. He brings
so much energy to the room and just when he speaks,
you know, everybody listen.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like he's just a natural moren leader for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is he for sure is Hey, all I've been here
is you've been killing during camp. Obviously it's a contract year.
They got you playing inside, they got you playing outside.
How are you feeling about that? Are you are you
trying to trying to spend more of your time outside?
You know there are coaches that have said if you
would have played inside the Super Bowl, the game would
(07:31):
have went different. But that's the story for a different day,
you know, shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I believe that also, you know, I'm I'm more
like whatever the team needs, you know. But like with
the contract part, you know, it just got to make sense,
like you know, it can't just be you know, something
that that that's really not my worth, I would say,
but like just you know, being here and playing here,
(07:59):
like you know, I love this team and I love
everything about it, the organization and just me me wanting
to execute and be be one of those you know,
pro Bowl players, all pro players.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'll just constantly you know, and uh preach to myself
that I just got to work and just you know,
be be one of them guys, like I got to
show up. Like so that's kind of like the chip
I'll play with on my shoulders, like, I just have
to show.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up right right, and it's gonna be that way until
you get paid. After you get paid a couple of
years later, Like, it's gonna be that way. You gotta
stay hungry and you gotta stay after it. But I've
been proud of you, man, I've been really proud of
your growth. You played really well. You you you showing
up and showing out. You got a family. Now they
said your kid broke the record at Kaiser, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wow was that it was?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It was actually crazy because you know, they be doing
it in kilos when they when they weigh the babies
and I was looking at it. I was looking at
the numbers and I was like and then I'll just
put up my phone and I start doing the numbers.
I was like, no, this is crazy. Now, this can't
be because they was telling us the whole time that
he was gonna be like seven pounds. So we was
like not expecting a huge, huge baby like that. So
(09:20):
so when he came out and it happened, and they
was like, this is the biggest baby. Like they gave
us like a certificate, this is the biggest baby that
we didn't had, you know, being born here. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's sane. I hope you got your old lady something
because boy, yeah, yeah, sound like so like Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
What you name me Titan?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay? I like that. I like that went into that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I really liked that Dad just him being so big,
like he was so so we just tightened. It was
just one of those names that really stuck out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So who else? Who else has been showing out in
your opinion and training camp? Obviously you got the rookie
persale who they drafted in the first round, and you know,
I mean, I'm sure you didn't got the up close
and personal. But I try to tell people like rookie
receivers is rare that they're gonna come in and have
all the craftiness to deal with a veteran corner, you
know what I mean. They might get you every now
(10:14):
and then, But what have you seen from him that
makes you feel optimistic?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I would say, his his worth, his work, work ethic,
Like he one of those guys that you know I
could tell like he put time into his craft, like
just just I don't even know if he noticed, but
like you know, I was watching like his Instagram videos
and like like him when he working working out. I
think he was like in Florida or something, or he
was working out with some trainer, and I was just
(10:42):
watching him and you could tell like he was real determined.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And then when I seen him like in camp, like like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He showed he showed up on film, like you know,
his his routes and stuff, like his crispiness and his hands.
For sure, he ran. He ran like one of one
of those routes that he ran like a seven stop
on me, and it was like it was like blanket
cut ridge was tight. And then you know, he stuck it.
He stuck his hands out and caught it, and then
we went down to the ground and then he like
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he like spent the ball after and then after that,
after that, I.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Was like, I was like, oh yeah, I gotta get it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I gotta get him back. Like so then you know
we've been battling. You know, it's been a it's been
a great battle. You know. I feel like he's gonna
he's gonna come in and be a good guy, you know,
to come in and help us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I like that. I like that all pro Fred. Obviously,
again you're playing on such a talented defense but still
making an impact what's that? What's those conversations like, because
y'all have been a great defense for I mean since
you've been in the league. Is that do you feel
like the standards the same? Do you feel like guys
are are are making sure they're they're deliberate and intentional
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about keeping god holding the standard and teaching guys like
like the rookies coming in, like Rinardo, who's coming in,
you know, to the standard and teaching him how things
are done so that the next group is ready to play.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh yeah, Fred, you know, he's he is the standard, really,
you know, I mean you've seen him work. Uh, he's
deliberate and walk throughs, you know everything about him. You know,
it's like he's the standard. You know. So a lot
of people see him and walkthroughs and in practice and
then you know coaches, you know, they they actually pointed
(12:25):
out and like this is like this is how you
get it done. Like and his resume it shows so
like everybody want that same type of resume. So we
all kind of like follow in, follow in the footsteps
and you know, try to try to be you know,
be that you know, but in our own way. Fred
is one of those. He's one of those guys you know,
(12:45):
like you don't you don't see, you don't come across
him like in this league, and.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It shows like you know, he's different.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like I remember, like my first time getting in there,
it was a preseason against the Raiders. They my first
time at Nickel. It was it was so much communication,
like he was calling out so much stuff and it
was crazy. And I was like after that point on,
I was like, yeah, he wanted them once right, like
he wanted them ones. Like it was just like it
(13:14):
was undeniable, right, That's how it is.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, I'm sure you're communicating like that now once.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You get h yeah yeah once yeah once you know you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Know yeah yeah. So question, because I never watched, did
you ever get a chance to go back and watch
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah? Yeah, I went back. I had I had to.
I had to watch it, like I just had to see.
But I kind of like I kind of felt because
like I talked to it. I talked to Wilk's like
before the like before the game, and I was just
telling him how I was feeling, you know. I was like,
you know, me, I just I watched a lot of films,
(13:53):
so I was just seeing where the ball was going
and I was like, it's mainly in between the hashes,
you know, it's on to the slots. Like they don't
really got no dominant outside guy. So like I was
telling him, like I feel like I should be in
the slot this game. Like I never came to him
never because I never questioned the coach, never questioned decisions
and nothing. I came to him. That was the only
(14:14):
time I came to him. And I and I said,
and I said that, but you know, they had their
philosophy and what they felt worked, well what was going
to work, and they made that decision. So I was like,
all right, I'm gonna just roll with it. I'm gonna
just try to do what I can to help us win.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, look, i'm gonna tell you this from experience and
as an old man who don't play no more. Let's
go talk to Kyle. Like at that point, look, if
you get, if you get any kind of feeling in
your heart, any kind of England, any kind of just
go talk to Kyle and let it. It's his team.
It's just what do you want to do with it?
Because I think that moved a needle. Next time, Like
if you just said that to him, you would have
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been playing inside the super Bowl and that would have
been the end of it. Like he would have lived
with it. He would have lived with it because it
was a gut feeling from you. It's one of the
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the goat reached out to you and gave you some encouragement.
That had to feel good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All you got. Let's talk you got Tom Brady reached out.
He said Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's good.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Because because I kind of have my heart to her
with Tom Brady, like after that Bucks game when we
when we played we played them, it was like my
first time meeting them, like seeing them it was like crazy.
That was like one of the craziest feelings. I was like, Wow,
this is Tom Brady, Like I've been watching him for
a long time, like and I'm actually seeing him up
in person, and then like I'm talking to him and
(16:32):
shaking his hand and like we conversating it. It was
like that was.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Crazy, right, It don't even feel real when you're talking
to it, right.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, it was like it was like, man, I didn't
seen you on TV so many times and never thought
I'd be speaking to you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right right, and good he a good dude. Man. I
liked h So this year, you know, year four, you
got you established. People know who you are, Opponents know
who you are, what receivers you're looking forward to facing
this year. And don't tell me everybody, because I.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Mean the whole schedule, the whole schedule on the menu,
I ain't gonna lie to you. Like week one, we
starting off week one, Garrett Wilson. He's on there because
you know, the league respect him. Justin Jefferson. Of course
you see his contract, but we justin Jefferson the most
really because when we had that joint practice, I felt
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like me going against him really helped me make the
team right that year, because like I was coming off
of a rookie slum or what like the doghouse, and
you know, my second year, they was already you know
that we drafted some guys and I was already in
a bad position. Well I felt like it kind of
(17:45):
was looking like I was in a bad position to
where I was like fighting for a roster spot. So
like I was seeing like all the articles and stuff,
and I was like I was like thinking in my head,
like this can't be true because like I know how
good I am, Like this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So then like that that whole second year, it was
like a big.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Drive, like I'm like like I'm I'm taking my shot,
like I'm going in, like I'm doing whatever I gotta
do to make this team because like I ain't never
I ain't grubged like to be like I was never
trying to be number two, Like I was always trying
to be one. Like I was always trying to be
the one like that guy. So so just seeing those articles,
(18:25):
it was like it was like crazy to me, like wow,
like this is what they think, like all right, So
then I just locked in. When I moved to Arizona,
I had moved to Arizona, I was my son was
like six months and I was just study. I was
studying film like this the most film I probably ever watched. Like,
I was just studying film, and uh, I was hitting
(18:45):
you up, I hit I hit you up. You know,
I was talking to you. And then I was I
started watching film like, I started locking in, started learning
concepts and start like it. Stuff started making making sense.
So then I start I started pairing it with you know, playbook,
so I'll put myself through a call to the playbook
and then it was like it started getting easy. So
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then I started to see it. So then once we
came back, that's when the coaches was telling me, like,
you look like a different player now, like and I
was like it just had to make sense for me.
So that was like kind of like my whole little
second year jump. And then what drove me into making
the team. So when I got lined up against Justin Jefferson.
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How I remember Kyle was standing right behind him watching
and I was like, this is my shot to make
the team, really like right here. So then that rep
I think he like he ran like a dig route.
I broke it up and then I looked at Kyle
and he was smiling. So I was like, all right,
I'm in the plus. So then the whole practice, I
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was like like every time everywhere, Justin Jefferson was going.
I'm like like I'm trying to I'm telling Ambry like
I'm trying to follow him, like like I need this one.
So he motioned over. He run it out. He catch it,
but it's like tight covers. He catch it. So yeah,
we're talking. We're going back and forth. Run players going
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at it. We're going at it. He like this time
he run a hitch. I covered a hitch and then
he scrambled drill and then scrambled drill and then he
running down the field and then they throw it. They
throw a D ball. You know I did up. You
know I'm talking. I'm like, We're going at it the
whole practice. So then I felt like after that, after that,
(20:33):
it was kind of like respect. And then I went
and then I bought in the game, and then that's
when I felt like I was in a better position
to make the team.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Bro, that's inspired. Bro, you gonna have to tell that story.
You're gonna have to tell that story a lot. When
you're done, after fifteen years of playing National Football League
or ever long you want to play, You're gonna have
to tell that story. You're gonna inspire some young man
who having a tough camp or having a tough year
to go out there and believe he can get it done.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, that's that Kyle. I knew it. I knew it
because like he never really watching one of I mean
he watching one on ones, but this one, like it
was like a different position, and he was like right there.
He was like like, this is the receivers right in
front of me. He was standing directly behind him. And
then my position, coach, he was like off to the right.
So I was like, this is the one, this, this
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is the rep that that could save me right here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Look a lot of times what you feel is what
it was, what it really is. You know what it
feels like when you're in that bubble and things ain't
going how you want him to go where. Yeah, we
don't want to say it, but football is one of
those other sports you go into that film room every
goddamn day and they tell you exactly how they feel
about you, good, bad, or indifferent.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So and then like at that time, I was I
was running with the threes on like yeah, So it
was like it was looking like, you know, Green Bay.
We played Green Bay that year, like first game, and
I didn't play till like the second I want to
say they put me in in the first quarter because
I think somebody got was tired or they put me
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in and then but I wasn't realistically supposed to play
till like the second quarter. So I was already feeling
like man like ah, Like it was already like I
don't know, but I'm like I'm gonna keep going. I'm
gonna do whatever I gotta do, Like that's just what
it is, Like, I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do.
And then I was like I knew he was having
a joint practice, but I didn't know just if Justin
(22:23):
Jefferson was gonna practice. But I was like whoever out there,
like right strap, yeah, Like I was that whole camp,
that whole camp like I but I felt like this
camp was like more of like me, you know, perfecting
my craft and trying to, you know, just take my
(22:44):
game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But bro, that's part of the journeys, Like, like that's
exactly how it was. I was fifth round, just like
you was. You come in, You're fighting for your life.
You don't know up from down. You don't care, like
I'm not about to drown, like I'm about to scrap.
You'all gonna have to put me out of this place. Yeah.
In the second year, Hey, I kind of know what's
going on, but still I'm strapping everybody. I'm about what
I'm about ten toes. And then get thirty year, You're like,
(23:08):
all right, Like I got it. I got it pretty
much together. Like let me let me lock in. I
want to be oppressed. I want to be a step kick.
Let me schematically, let me understand the concepts, understand the scheme,
understand the team, you know what I mean, how I
can be a leader or how I can impact others.
And then you keep going from there and like you said,
like you start to help other guys, bring other people along,
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and continue to elevate your game because you a dog,
and that's sometimes what Kyle we want to see. That's
why he probably went over there in one on once
because he knew he was like, he probably said something
about you, and then he wanted to go see if
it was true. And so he was like I got
to go see this rep for myself. And you showed
him what he thought he was gonna see. And that's
I respect the hell out of that, because Kyle is
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a straight shooter if you go talk conversation that you
have with him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Because because that same that same like that same training camp,
like in practice he had he had like called me out.
He had called me out and was like like, I
know you a dog, but you gotta show it, like
show it all the time. And I was like wait,
like I felt like I've been showing I'm a dog,
Like this is not dog enough for you? Like so
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then I'm like, uh, like least off now, Like it's
like you just gave me, you just gave me the
keys now, and now on it this this week. I'm
gonna give you what you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Want right right now. Every time I do something, I'm gonnay,
this is what you wanted, this is what you want.
Oh that's that's cool, man, That's that's exactly how I was.
I was scrapping, scratching and fighting, and then after a
while you feel so dominant. You're like, hey, I'm in
one on ones, I'm working tech. I sometimes didn't even
use to chimp button my chin strap. And then office
coordinator be like, you didn't even buffle your trinch strap?
(24:46):
How did you stop that runch? You're not taking it serious.
I was like, I'll tell you that serious. I'm just
I don't give a damn about none of that. I'm
locked into my keys thang. It's all technical. You ain't
gonna speed me up and me not buckling. It is
me just letting you know you not speed me like,
I'm not concerned out here? Yeah, which corners? Did you?
Because we different body type? So I could try to
(25:07):
help you as much as I want. My guy, I've
always meant to talk to you about this Green Bay game.
It might have been two years ago. They gave you PI. Yeah,
you used my move and I could not believe they
called that on you.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You caught, Yeah, that one was. I was kind of
because I was watching. I got all your tape, so
I got everybody like I got yours. I got Reevist,
I got Champ like just all the ghats, you know
what I'm saying. I got all your tape. So I
seen you did it one time and I've seen they
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didn't call it. So I was like, that's kind of good,
Like that's a good And I had the white gloves on,
so I was thinking, like you were just gonna get it.
I was gonna get away with it. And I was
surprised they called it. That's why because like after the play,
I start celebrating and then I seen the flag and
I'm like, whoa he saw that?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Like wait, bro, bro, I watched it live, but I said,
I've never seen him call it never.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I was sick. I was sick. I was sick.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I was so clean too.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I thought, yeah, I thought I got away with it,
But it's probably because I was because he was so
much taller than me or something. And they just.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Because because where he was looking from, because where he
threw the flat round, he couldn't have saw your body
to body inside got his here.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah that it was crazy and can that was like
my first game. That was that was my first game
at Nickel too, and yeah, and that that was the
game that Aaron Rodgers had, he had set me down,
like that was my rookie slump, Like after that game,
you know, so that so I got something in store
for him Monday night we won.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I love that. I love that. I love that. Hey
this ain't this ain't the rookie no more. Yeah, you
got your revenge list. We're gonna revisit it during this
middle season. Likes them off. Oh yeah, but man, that's
that's pretty cool. But I like I like that you
(27:09):
let that out because sometimes that that was my biggest
thing in the Senior bowl the Senior Bowls when I
kind of let myself off the leaf because in college
I used to be like, you know, the coaches like
you gotta get lower in your technique, you gotta do this,
you got to do that, And I'm like, bro, if
y'all just leave me alone, I promise you I could
strap y y'all won't be bending down to five ft
six when I'm six three. And that's.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah. Sometimes you can't over coach it. Like sometimes somebody
just got the natural, like God given the ability to
do that, to stand stand tall and be able to
just stop on the dime and you know, change direction,
like some stuff you just can't coach.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right, and so so that's what happened when I got
to the league. They I got to the senior ball,
I was like, I'm gonna do I'm gonna play it
my way. If they gonna cut me and I'm gonna
get eliminade and get sent home, I'm gonna get sent
home doing it how I was supposed to do it. Yeah,
and I did that all the way until I retire.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
All right, it worked out, Yeah, it worked out for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So what's your goal this season? Got to be Pro Bowl?
I'm guessing yeah, Pro Bowl, all Pro.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like I'm setting the I'm setting the bar so high,
like I want to shoot for the stars. Yeah, you know,
because I feel like when I help set myself to
a standard like I'll be expecting to do, I'm trying
to do more than the standard, Like I'm trying to
be higher, like I want to Pro Bowl all Pro.
(28:32):
Five interceptions, Uh, you know a good amount of tackles
because I know they say dB is not supposed to
have a lot of tackles. That mean you're getting the
ball caught on you.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So you know a good amount of tackles where just
strap the whole season.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Right right, right right, get you a few TFLs. You know, somehow.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Sacks I've been I've been doing good like on my
past rush moves now and you know getting to the quarterbacks.
So I feel like I can show case some of
that too.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I like that it all come with experience and time.
It all come experience the time. So in your full year,
your three years, who's been the toughest receiver you saw?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Uh? It was it was It was justin Jefferson, I
would say, because I felt like that was like the
first you know, dominant receiver that you know, I went
against what I was like dominating in the league. Like
I felt like he was the first one that I
actually was able to guard because uh i Man and
(29:32):
uh Mooney, they was both they was both hurt. So
I was I was able to get out there and
you know, actually you know, get with him like a
couple of times. So I felt like I felt like
it was it was him. But like it'll be a
different it'll be a different approach this year because you know,
like I didn't I didn't outgrew that rookie stage and
(29:53):
that you know, that second year of stage. So it'll
be like a different, different battle. So but so far, yeah,
it's been him, I would say him, and then are
you in there? Are you in there? You know, we
didn't have our battles like all training camp last year,
like we was having battles like it was battles like
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and he was lining up at the X on the
right side all the time and I played the right corner,
so I was able to see him like majority of
like every day in practice. Every day in practice, we
was going at it right. So I felt like that
that helped boost my game too. And also, you know,
going against Deebo, you know, you never know what you're
gonna get out of debo, Like he can line up
(30:39):
anywhere and do anything really like he's just one of
those players and then he get the ball in his
hand and now you got to tackle him, right, So
like I felt like they all played the part in
you know, making me to who I am, you know,
with just building the confidence.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So the Hyena going from thirty eight to two, what
went into that was it just grow? It was it
just like shdding the rookie young kid and going back.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's definitely what it was. It
was it was that, and then it was like the number,
the number looked way better. I knew it looked better
when when Kyle said in the meeting, like the night
before the game, he was like, oh my god, you
look so much better in two. And that was like,
(31:27):
He's definitely right, because I used to see that thirty eight,
Like even the players I used to make a player,
I used to be like, I wish I had.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
A better number on.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's like, oh man, it's like if I would have
just had two on, maybe I would have had a
way more Jersey sales, right right, people.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Ain't buying that three eight willingly, I'm telling you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I was like I tried to make it look good,
you know, I was trying to do the extra. But
then it was just like nah, I knew. I knew
it was bad. When my my video guys was was
talking about me, they was like, bro, you need to
get rid of that. You're a vent now.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Look look I talked about schar Berry's and Sneed and
then boys in Kansas City. I was like, y'all be balling,
but got the stakest thirty thirty eight. Yeah, I said,
I was hoping he didn't come over to San Francisco
with that three and three five. He had it.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He had it at first. He had it at first,
like in Ota when he first came he had the
three five and he's like, I think I'm about to
change my number to seven. I was like seven. I
was like, I gotta I gotta see it. And then
he put on and I was like, all right, yeah
you see it. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Oh I'm glad he did because he get he gets
a lot more love because he used to ball out.
But people he had that three five old people just
would not get.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I think I definitely played the part too that like
he didn't get much love because he had thirty five.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Like it's more like it's like it's a better look
for sure, no.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Question, no question. So it's Pat. Well, clearly, I'm not
gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna argue who is
the best quarterback. You didn't seen us outside of Pat
and then.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Brock outside of all right, Pat and Brock, Matthew, Stafford,
Crafty Amy and then Kirk Cousins, them two, Like I
slept on them too, because like I always grew up like, oh,
he played for the Lions, all right, he played for
the Redskins, so I didn't really know, like like when
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when Kyle like start breaking down the offense and like
what how they have to read and like you know,
and then it's like the EDG Dressers nowadays is running
FUX three, So you got to do all this and
a matter of time quickness. So I start like, so
once we played Minnesota that week and we lost to
them at their house and Kirk Cousins having the hell
(33:51):
of a game, I was like, I had so much
respect for him after because it was like I didn't
think he could do it. Be honest, I didn't think
he could do it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That that don't look. I'm gonna let you know something.
There's certain quarterbacks that the media get in their little
feelings about that they don't get credit, and Kirk is
one of them. Dudes, you will never hear it from me.
Kirk is one of them. Like he got the right
important cass. He gonna give somebody a long day.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh yeah, for sure. Because I was talking to Trent
about it and he was like, man, I'm telling you
Kirk is good brood. I'm like I'm like, yeah, okay,
we got the Bosa coming off the edge like yeah,
we'll see. Like you know, I was, I'm just you know,
just being young, just thinking of the Kirk Cousins and
the Redskins, like they haven't losing records and stuff. So
(34:38):
I'm thinking like that, and I'm like so then once
I actually seen him and he was standing in there
throwing dots, I was like, wow, that boy was nice.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
He do he can be tripped, but if he if
he all, he gonna get the wall where's supposed to
be going. But oh yeah, for sure. And Stafford just
was in Detroit. The difference between staf after the A
Rod seems great outside, you know what I mean, because
a Rod got the MVPs and all that. On that field,
it is not as great as you think. Like that
(35:09):
boy Stafford can sling the rock sign on here.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah no look, yeah he was. He was throwing a
couple of no looks when we played them versus the Rams.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
He was throwing it.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I was like, wow, like this is Hall of Fame quarterback. Bro.
He was doing the ball like he was putting the
ball to where it was like you couldn't even like
I couldn't even break the ball up. It was like
he's just putting it there right. I'm like, I know
that was great covers. He's just putting it there right.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's a hitch. He throwing it to his back hip
away from you, to the sideline. You're like broro inside pick.
So yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So when I finally intercepted him, I was I was
happy as hell. I was like, I got him back. No,
finally who he even now.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You want to hear a good quarterback? Man, It's it's
a lot of people that that they It's some people
they get too much credit to, and then it's some
people that they just think are cheeks and they not
like Dak. They give Dak a lot of like a
head Dak will get let that beyond Oh yeah yeah
when Dak is on and that's why he was second
team All Pro. But what's your what?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What else? What else you got for me that you're
excited for this season?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Really? That that game versus Case I think I think
that's another game that's on the list that I myself like,
we have to win that game. That game is like
a must win, like we we we got to get
some type of get back and then you know, at
(36:44):
the end, get another get back, we set it, we
settled it off, like we all on one against them. Well,
I mean since since I've been on the team, we're
one against them. Yeah, we're in two against.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Them against the Yeah you know, yes I do.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But I feel like this year, this is our year,
and we all determined and focused and we know what's
at state, Like we knew like this this could possibly
be the last dance, right, so we know what needs
to be done.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
What you're doing is different this year.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Really just being more like vocal. I feel like last
year I was kind of in a phase where like
I ain't make enough players yet to really you know,
say something or really voice how I feel. Uh. But
this year, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm more of like being in that like trying to
be a leader, like you know, trying to lead and like.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Speak because actually some of the guys in the room,
well most of the guys in the room, like when
I when I do say something, like they actually do listen.
Like I never thought like it was like that, like,
you know, just because I was what I came in
fifth round and you know, then made a couple of players,
but I wasn't really like, you know, the guy in
the room so it was like I really never really
(38:05):
said anything, but like now it's like just like a
different approach.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And I'm sure they appreciate that. I'm sure everybody appreciate that.
In gluting dB oh yeah, DV. Well let me you
got if you got any questions for me. I ain't
gonna take too much more of your day. I know
you got got stuff to do. And get back to
that baby. Oh yeah, I wonder how big he is now?
How big is he now?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Two years old and he's about he's knocking on forty pounds. Yeah,
he wearing four year old clothes. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, see, I thought you had a DD You might
want to just put his hand in the ground and
make him mean, because just come off that got to
come off there. I don't know what he's your next
came from, but that's what we're doing with this back. Yeah.
I love that. I love that. Well, Shoot, I appreciate
you joining me. I'm gonna have you again before the
season is up. If you won't. Oh yeah, you're talking
(39:06):
about it again.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Appreciate you. Be more good luck, all right, appreciate you.
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