August 17, 2024 • 22 mins
This week on the podcast John dove into the top stories that captured the NFL headlines starting with Haason Reddick, who hasn't done anything with the Jets since getting traded to them on April 1st requesting a trade out of New York (6:56), Sam Darnold getting another shot to start in the NFL after J.J. McCarthy is out for the season with a torn meniscus (15:50), and the lose-lose situation that Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni is in, in Philadelphia (24:07). #Volume #Herd
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Is going on? Everybody? John middlecoff three and OW podcast
How are we doing? Just got back from a little
golf and putting together a little best of because we
had a lot going on in the football world. This
week started with a crazy situation going on with a
saw On Reddick who requested a trade after he was
(01:53):
already traded and still hasn't shown up, So the Jets
got some issues going on there. Arnold, after JJ McCarthy
is officially out for the year, gets an incredible opportunity
that some guys people in his shoes, don't get again
and he's got a lot of money on the line.
And then Nick Sirianni, who is he gonna lose lose situation?
(02:17):
Obviously if they struggle, you know, his jobs clearly on
the line. What if they're successful on offense? Is Kellen
Morgan to get all the credit. So we're gonna dive
into those things, and yeah, talk a little football. But
before we dive into the jets, I got to tell
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(02:40):
season is coming. I mean, you can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. It felt a couple
months ago, a long long way away. It does not
feel long at all. Some of these teams have been
in camp for three and a half four weeks. We've
already got a preseason game. We've got more preseason games
this Thursday. It'll be here before you know it. And
if you want to go to one of these games,
I said on a recent podcast, I think I'm going
(03:00):
to go to Texas Oklahoma because of my friends. At
game time, someone hit me up in the DMS like,
that's not a real SEC game. Well, partly because I
gotta fly into a real airport, because I gotta be
back Sunday morning to work in Dallas. Just makes a
lot of sense. And actually it is a real SEC
game because Texas and Oklahoma are now in it. It's
one of the great rivalries in college football. And if
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as just a human being, when chaos is all around you.
(04:06):
I had no business to not somehow wind up successful.
I had two parents, they both had jobs. My dad
was on my ass twenty four to seven, three sixty
five with school, not just attending school. If I ever
got caught, you know, skipping class, I got in a
lot of trouble, but having good grades pushed me to
go to college. I never had a dinner unless I
(04:29):
got kicked out because I was in trouble that there
wasn't food on the table. I had no business not
to quote unquote make it in life. And we've all
known people, especially the older you get, that grew up
in chaotic situations, whether it was parent situations, whether it
was financial situations. When I went to work at Fresno
(04:49):
State saw some of the guys on our team what
they had to overcome to put themselves in college, the
first guy in the history of their family to get
a college degree. I remember co taking such great pride
in that because of what a big deal it was.
Most guys were not going to go on to the NFL.
But this isn't necessarily about sports. Like some people's path
(05:10):
in life is much more difficult, and when they make it,
they deserve more credit. It is much harder to make
it out of chaos than it is when everything's laid out. Now,
that doesn't mean you're guaranteed anything. We've known a lot
of people with easy access to stuff who have failed.
But I give you a lot more credit when you
(05:32):
overcome dysfunction to be successful. That's for business that's for life,
that's for any personal situation. I have a lot of
admiration for that. And obviously working in football in college
in the NFL, you saw a lot of that guys
overcoming just crazy odds. Now, obviously they were had god
given athletic ability, but some of their circumstances when they
(05:55):
were young, it's crazy how they were able to make it.
And usually you need some stability in your life, whether
it be a coach, whether it be a parent, whether
it be a grandparent, whether it be some other mentor
to kind of help you out and lead you that way,
because most humans get distracted easily. I thought Belichick, for
twenty years in the peak of the Patriots' powers, did
(06:17):
a really good job of the moment they had a
question mark, like we're going to Tom Brady, Drew Beries
trade him immediately. The moment a guy gets in trouble,
no matter how good he is, Chandler Jones, he's gone.
He's on another team. The moment there's a contract situation,
we're not going to pay you. He's traded. Not because
he didn't value those players, not because he didn't think
(06:37):
he needed those guys to win. But you can't overcome
distractions in a sport and an industry that demands so
much focus and attention on what's going on. And the
different media markets obviously bring in more craziness. And there's
no bigger media market in America than New York. So
(06:58):
everything's under the microscope. With the Giants, with the Jets,
with the Knicks, with the Yankees, with the Mets. It's crazy,
it really is, and it's just different depending on where
you are in the country. That being said, when you
have chaotic situations as a team, even if things are
normal in your position room, with your coordinator, on the
(07:20):
practice field, you get asked about it constantly. And the Jets,
who last year no fault of their own. They trade
for Aaron Rodgers, spirits are high, they're on hard knocks.
People like me are like they're gonna win the division.
Tar's achilles, and then it just came off the rails
(07:40):
and was a complete embarrassment the rest of the season.
The Zach Wilson experiment that they tried to kind of
have their cake and eat it too. Instead of getting
rid of them, they kept them on the team. Then
by the mid season he got benched. He didn't want
to come back, and he was complaining that Rogers was
supposed to be his friend, and his mentor disappeared, and
it was a joke. It was typical Jets, crazy, dysfunctional, chaotic,
(08:05):
that is kind of what they're used to. And usually
I don't care how much talent you have on their
team or on your team and who's coaching you, you're
gonna lose in that situation. And they lost pretty consistently
and they weren't any good. And then this season it's like, Okay,
Rogers forty years old, healed. We had some pretty normal
veteran good guys, Tyron Smith, Mike Williams, we got some young,
(08:28):
ascending stars. Let's just let's take care of business. Let's
give ourselves a shot to not be that chaotic. Then
they trade for a son, Reddick from the Eagles. And
the reason the Eagles traded him, We've talked about this
a million times because he wanted more money and the
Eagles said, we're not gonna give you more money. It
(08:50):
was public knowledge. Then the Jets trade for him, and
as of August twelfth, he didn't show up to OTAs
he hasn't been there in training camp, and he officially
asks for another trade, and if they were to trade him,
I think it would be the first time in NFL
history a guy got traded to a team, never conducted
one moment with that franchise on the field, in a
(09:12):
meeting room, did nothing, and then got traded again. Which obviously,
when you see he gets request to trade, everyone laughs
and mocks the Jets because you realize they're not gonna
trade him. The Antonio Brown situation, let's let's, you know,
go back five six years with the Raiders. He practiced
during OTAs and I remember having known some guys on
(09:33):
that staff. They're like, he's our best player by a mile.
He's incredible, and they were really hopeful. Then obviously after
the summer things get weird. He burns off his feet
and then it just turns into a mess, and he
like demands to get traded. They cut him. It was
it was an embarrassment for the organization. But in that situation,
at least he had practiced and they thought they had something.
They're like, God, this guy's incredible, this guy's gonna help
(09:55):
us out. I do not understand trading for a player
who wants more money and then assume everything will just
be worked out without being willing to give him more money.
So Joe Douglas puts out a statement immediately like we're
not trading him, he has to follow the rules. He's
getting fined the CBA, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
(10:16):
None of that means anything. And asan Reddick is losing
money by the day, I think his fines are already
over a million dollars. But like, how is this thing
going to be solved if you are the Jets and
you are Joe Douglas and you're not willing to give
him a pay raise, And I think at this point
in time, we have to assume that they don't plan
(10:36):
on paying him. So eventually Reddick, if you take that tactic,
will just show up because he's not gonna miss game checks.
You wouldn't think. So you're gonna bring a disgruntled player
that you do not know, that you've never coached, that
does not know your scheme. There is no cohesion there
into your locker room. When the only thing you tried
(10:58):
to avoid after last year, in the previous couple of
years with the quarterback of disasters, the offensive coordinator just
being completely over his head and everyone making fun of you.
Is to bring in a player with pretty high name
recognition who is pissed off, who clearly isn't happy with you.
I just do not understand how they didn't see this coming.
(11:23):
I can't even fathom imagining a different outcome when you
knew you were trading for this player in this situation
and with these circumstances. And this is why, and I
said this at the combine, when you're there in Indy
and you actually see the teams and you start talking
to people, and you just realize the overwhelming majority of
(11:45):
the league, they're thirty two teams. You could argue ten,
maybe twelve are well run and have a shot every year,
and for the most part, it is the same freaking
twelve ten teams all the time. That's why the majority
of the playoffs over the last even just half decade
have been run by the same teams. It's why for
(12:06):
a long time, in the peak of the Brady Belichick
it were the same three or four teams. It was
the Ravens, it was obviously the Patriots, it was Peyton
Manning squad, it was the Steelers, like a couple other teams,
rotated in and out, but there were consistent teams now
in the NFC, the Diners, the Rams, the Eagles, and
the Cowboys. Right. Doesn't mean they don't have weird situations,
(12:29):
but they are so much more well run consistently. The
Lions now have thrown their hat in the ring with
their operation, at least based on a small sample size.
And then you have the Jets who have the record
currently for team sports playoff drout, and I just don't
think it's coincidence. It's funny with opportunities sports a lot
(12:53):
like life. They can come and they go, and sometimes
certain people get more than a for whatever reason, for
whatever circumstance, and some guys get an opportunity, fail and
never get that shot again. When you look, and we've
talked a lot about the twenty twenty one quarterback class,
(13:15):
Trey Lance is never getting a chance to be a
starting quarterback ever again, I would say the same thing
about Zach Wilson. It's never happening. It doesn't mean they
can't become one with injuries, work their way up a
depth chart. They will never be named the starter. As
of right now, Justin Fields gets traded to a team
with another quarterback that someone just paid eighty plus million
(13:38):
dollars a dead cap to kick away. Can't beat the
guy out, Mac Jones. Very difficult for him to become
a starter again. These guys have been in the league
just a couple of years already flipped like that. Yet
Sam Darnold, who looked like his career was down the drain,
got a lifeline and it actually didn't start this year.
(13:58):
Started the last year with Kyle sh Shanahan. And I
do think that belief in a coach who's viewed as
one of the best offensive coaches in the league changed
the perception about him. Goes there. He just told Albert Breer,
because let's face it, early on in his career was
kind of embarrassing. But we talked about this yesterday. When
it comes to the jet situation, most people can't overcome chaos,
(14:23):
most people can't overcome dysfunction. Most people can't overcome awful coaching.
And that's what Adam Gase was, that's what Matt Rule
was as an NFL coach. Yet he goes to Kyle Shanahan,
he's their backup, and they all really liked him. They
felt comfortable if they had to start him in a game,
and at one point in time last season after Party
(14:44):
got a concussion that Sam Darnold was going to start,
turned out pretty cleared, ended up starting, and Sam just
basically started the last game that they punted against the
Rams with a bunch of backups. But then Kevin O'Connell
came calling, So I want to give you ten million dollars.
We're gonna draft a quarterback. More than likely we got
a couple first round picks, but you're gonna be our starter.
(15:06):
He said that, no ta's. He said that in the
start of training camp, and he hasn't relinquished that even
after JJ McCarthy look good. Then it turns out a
couple days later, JJ McCarthy needs knee surgery now as
of right now, torn meniscus. From what I read, you
don't know how long you're out until they do surgery.
(15:27):
Could be a month, could be The season sucks. If
you're a Vikings fan, that is not what you want
to read. Glass half empty. If he misses the whole season,
you get all those reps. You know, Patrick mahomes. A
big part of his success, even though he red shirted,
was all the reps in practice constantly getting better, getting
used to and you Reid starting the last game, building
(15:47):
that momentum in the year two, that would be off
the table. Obviously he's out for the year. Best case
scenario post surgery, misses the rest of training camp, maybe
a couple weeks in the regular season, can come back,
run scout team. Every thing's fine. But the bright side is,
this is not the Bears, this is not Washington. You
(16:08):
didn't name your rookie the starter. You weren't planning on
starting him or even playing him. In a perfect world,
he wouldn't play all season long. And he signed Sam
Donald and now he has an enormous opportunity around a
young offensive coach that many believe is a rocket ship
with the best wide receiver in the league, with another
(16:28):
guy who's probably gonna get suspended because of a bad duy,
but when he does come back after two or three games,
is one of the better young wide receivers. It looks
like in the league. In Addison, they signed Aaron Jones
last time I checked, he's a stud. They have a
superstar offensive tackle that they just gave a lot of
money to, and it's an incredible opportunity. And if you're
(16:49):
lucky enough to screw something up, even if it's not
all your fault, and get handed another opportunity. You gotta
take advantage of it. And luckily for Sam Darnold, he's
not playing for a huge contract for the Vikings. They're
gonna go to JJ McCarthy unless they have to amputate
his lake. Like JJ McCarthy's going to be the Viking
starter in twenty twenty five, but he's playing for a
(17:11):
lot of other teams that have a lot of question
marks at quarterback. Some do not have a quarterback. And
if you can be a twenty six year old who
can be successful with Kevin O'Connell, who has Kyle Shanahan
on your resume as a reference, someone's gonna pay you.
Someone's gonna give you some money, and you can go
from a laughingstock in this league, especially when you're a
(17:34):
highly drafted player, to someone people covet pretty quick. We
just saw with Baker Mayfield no one will touch him.
Then he goes to Tampa resurrect his career, gets one
hundred million dollars. I'm not saying that's gonna happen here.
I wouldn't bet my life savings on it. But I
do know the right people believe in this guy and
(17:55):
think there's something there. Now it's on Sam to prove it.
I've seen a lot, and I've talked to people that
have been to these practices that there's a lot of
positive stuff coming out of Eagle training camp in regards
(18:16):
to the offense and most specifically the quarterback. Talk to
people that have been at these practices, they the Eagles
look really good, as they should. I mean, they got
a highly paid roster on offense. Quarterback makes a ton.
Wide receivers make a ton, tight end makes a lot.
Saquon Barkley, offensive linemen, both tackles are paid, guards paid.
(18:37):
They got good players everywhere. They look good. I started thinking,
right because McCarthy, Sirianni Sirianni McCarthy. We're gonna talk a
lot about these two guys, and I feel like I've
come to the defense of McCarthy. I'm like, well, I
know he's let you down in the playoffs, but he's
won the division two out of three years. They won
twelve games three straight years. They he took the play
(19:00):
calling and proved that he can call plays. Do I
think he's Andy Reid. No, but is he better than
the way the conversation is being talked about. Probably Now
With the Eagles, Sirianni almost feels like he's in a
no lose situation, or excuse me, a no win situation,
because if they lose, he's obviously screwed. But what if
(19:23):
they win, and what if the offense is awesome? Well,
there's no pretending anymore.
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We all know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He's been excommunicated, told be the true CEO, stay away,
try not to get in people's way. Essentially, so if
the Eagles have success specifically on offense, guess what two
years ago they had that happen and they let the
offensive coordinator go to the Colts. Clearly, if they could
(19:53):
have a redo last year, they would have taken a
redo and just kept Shane Psyching and gotten rid of Siriani.
But now they have Kellen Moore, who checks a lot
of boxes. In my opinion, he's one of the better
college players I've ever seen. He was remarkable at Boise State,
a dominant individual. I mean that those teams were awesome.
(20:13):
So played quarterback at a really high level, even made
it in the NFL for a while as a backup
transitioned immediately to coaching and within a couple of years
was calling plays in the NFL an NFL play caller,
starting at like thirty one years old, so he has
many years of calling plays now for several different quarterbacks,
(20:36):
Dakota Prescott, Justin Herbert, and now Jalen hurts well if
it does go well on offense and he has a
good rapport with a quarterback, because let's face it, does
Jalen have that much on the line this year? Maybe
with us that talk about football or fans, but financially no,
(20:57):
He's already been paid. He's one of the highest paid
in the league. He got his as the kids say, bag.
I hate that word because you don't get bags of money.
This isn't the mob. You get direct deposits that are taxed.
But that's a conversation for another day. But regardless, I
would say Kellen Moore has a lot to gain because
(21:21):
it's kind of twofold one. He has a ton of success.
He'd be a lock to get head coaching interviews. But
how would the Eagles let him go? Do they value
Sirianni's CEO approach that much that they would risk the
guy that they've given the biggest contract in the history
of the franchise. Who can impact that guy letting him
(21:42):
leave the building again? They just had that happen. Once
you break up with someone and regret it, well, if
you find yourself in another good relationship and you go,
maybe I shouldn't go down that road again. And to me,
that's kind of what the Eagles feel like. They have
a previous situation in which they know they don't want
(22:04):
to experience again. And if the Eagles are good on
offense this year, if their team's good, I don't see
how Kellen Moore gets out of the building. So you
could argue that if the Eagles lose, Sirianni's done. Even
if the Eagles win, he's probably in trouble as well.
(22:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:31):
Is going on? Everybody? John middlecoff three and OW podcast
How are we doing? Just got back from a little
golf and putting together a little best of because we
had a lot going on in the football world. This
week started with a crazy situation going on with a
saw On Reddick who requested a trade after he was
(01:53):
already traded and still hasn't shown up, So the Jets
got some issues going on there. Arnold, after JJ McCarthy
is officially out for the year, gets an incredible opportunity
that some guys people in his shoes, don't get again
and he's got a lot of money on the line.
And then Nick Sirianni, who is he gonna lose lose situation?
(02:17):
Obviously if they struggle, you know, his jobs clearly on
the line. What if they're successful on offense? Is Kellen
Morgan to get all the credit. So we're gonna dive
into those things, and yeah, talk a little football. But
before we dive into the jets, I got to tell
you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing
app of this podcast. And listen. Like I said, football
(02:40):
season is coming. I mean, you can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. It felt a couple
months ago, a long long way away. It does not
feel long at all. Some of these teams have been
in camp for three and a half four weeks. We've
already got a preseason game. We've got more preseason games
this Thursday. It'll be here before you know it. And
if you want to go to one of these games,
I said on a recent podcast, I think I'm going
(03:00):
to go to Texas Oklahoma because of my friends. At
game time, someone hit me up in the DMS like,
that's not a real SEC game. Well, partly because I
gotta fly into a real airport, because I gotta be
back Sunday morning to work in Dallas. Just makes a
lot of sense. And actually it is a real SEC
game because Texas and Oklahoma are now in it. It's
one of the great rivalries in college football. And if
you want to attend one of those events, obviously concerts.
(03:22):
Like I said, I knew a bunch of people last
week at in Vegas to see Morgan Wallen Brady and
Mike Tyson rolled out with them. If you want to
go to any concert this fall, I highly recommend it.
Nothing like a good concert to just kind of relax,
have a few pops, enjoy yourself. Use game Time because
take the guests work out of buying tickets With game Time.
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(03:43):
the code John for twenty dollars off your first purchase.
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last minute tickets, lowest prices guaranteed. It is really hard
to be successful in any walk of life, in any industry,
as just a human being, when chaos is all around you.
(04:06):
I had no business to not somehow wind up successful.
I had two parents, they both had jobs. My dad
was on my ass twenty four to seven, three sixty
five with school, not just attending school. If I ever
got caught, you know, skipping class, I got in a
lot of trouble, but having good grades pushed me to
go to college. I never had a dinner unless I
(04:29):
got kicked out because I was in trouble that there
wasn't food on the table. I had no business not
to quote unquote make it in life. And we've all
known people, especially the older you get, that grew up
in chaotic situations, whether it was parent situations, whether it
was financial situations. When I went to work at Fresno
(04:49):
State saw some of the guys on our team what
they had to overcome to put themselves in college, the
first guy in the history of their family to get
a college degree. I remember co taking such great pride
in that because of what a big deal it was.
Most guys were not going to go on to the NFL.
But this isn't necessarily about sports. Like some people's path
(05:10):
in life is much more difficult, and when they make it,
they deserve more credit. It is much harder to make
it out of chaos than it is when everything's laid out. Now,
that doesn't mean you're guaranteed anything. We've known a lot
of people with easy access to stuff who have failed.
But I give you a lot more credit when you
(05:32):
overcome dysfunction to be successful. That's for business that's for life,
that's for any personal situation. I have a lot of
admiration for that. And obviously working in football in college
in the NFL, you saw a lot of that guys
overcoming just crazy odds. Now, obviously they were had god
given athletic ability, but some of their circumstances when they
(05:55):
were young, it's crazy how they were able to make it.
And usually you need some stability in your life, whether
it be a coach, whether it be a parent, whether
it be a grandparent, whether it be some other mentor
to kind of help you out and lead you that way,
because most humans get distracted easily. I thought Belichick, for
twenty years in the peak of the Patriots' powers, did
(06:17):
a really good job of the moment they had a
question mark, like we're going to Tom Brady, Drew Beries
trade him immediately. The moment a guy gets in trouble,
no matter how good he is, Chandler Jones, he's gone.
He's on another team. The moment there's a contract situation,
we're not going to pay you. He's traded. Not because
he didn't value those players, not because he didn't think
(06:37):
he needed those guys to win. But you can't overcome
distractions in a sport and an industry that demands so
much focus and attention on what's going on. And the
different media markets obviously bring in more craziness. And there's
no bigger media market in America than New York. So
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everything's under the microscope. With the Giants, with the Jets,
with the Knicks, with the Yankees, with the Mets. It's crazy,
it really is, and it's just different depending on where
you are in the country. That being said, when you
have chaotic situations as a team, even if things are
normal in your position room, with your coordinator, on the
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practice field, you get asked about it constantly. And the Jets,
who last year no fault of their own. They trade
for Aaron Rodgers, spirits are high, they're on hard knocks.
People like me are like they're gonna win the division.
Tar's achilles, and then it just came off the rails
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and was a complete embarrassment the rest of the season.
The Zach Wilson experiment that they tried to kind of
have their cake and eat it too. Instead of getting
rid of them, they kept them on the team. Then
by the mid season he got benched. He didn't want
to come back, and he was complaining that Rogers was
supposed to be his friend, and his mentor disappeared, and
it was a joke. It was typical Jets, crazy, dysfunctional, chaotic,
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that is kind of what they're used to. And usually
I don't care how much talent you have on their
team or on your team and who's coaching you, you're
gonna lose in that situation. And they lost pretty consistently
and they weren't any good. And then this season it's like, Okay,
Rogers forty years old, healed. We had some pretty normal
veteran good guys, Tyron Smith, Mike Williams, we got some young,
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ascending stars. Let's just let's take care of business. Let's
give ourselves a shot to not be that chaotic. Then
they trade for a son, Reddick from the Eagles. And
the reason the Eagles traded him, We've talked about this
a million times because he wanted more money and the
Eagles said, we're not gonna give you more money. It
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was public knowledge. Then the Jets trade for him, and
as of August twelfth, he didn't show up to OTAs
he hasn't been there in training camp, and he officially
asks for another trade, and if they were to trade him,
I think it would be the first time in NFL
history a guy got traded to a team, never conducted
one moment with that franchise on the field, in a
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meeting room, did nothing, and then got traded again. Which obviously,
when you see he gets request to trade, everyone laughs
and mocks the Jets because you realize they're not gonna
trade him. The Antonio Brown situation, let's let's, you know,
go back five six years with the Raiders. He practiced
during OTAs and I remember having known some guys on
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that staff. They're like, he's our best player by a mile.
He's incredible, and they were really hopeful. Then obviously after
the summer things get weird. He burns off his feet
and then it just turns into a mess, and he
like demands to get traded. They cut him. It was
it was an embarrassment for the organization. But in that situation,
at least he had practiced and they thought they had something.
They're like, God, this guy's incredible, this guy's gonna help
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us out. I do not understand trading for a player
who wants more money and then assume everything will just
be worked out without being willing to give him more money.
So Joe Douglas puts out a statement immediately like we're
not trading him, he has to follow the rules. He's
getting fined the CBA, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
(10:16):
None of that means anything. And asan Reddick is losing
money by the day, I think his fines are already
over a million dollars. But like, how is this thing
going to be solved if you are the Jets and
you are Joe Douglas and you're not willing to give
him a pay raise, And I think at this point
in time, we have to assume that they don't plan
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on paying him. So eventually Reddick, if you take that tactic,
will just show up because he's not gonna miss game checks.
You wouldn't think. So you're gonna bring a disgruntled player
that you do not know, that you've never coached, that
does not know your scheme. There is no cohesion there
into your locker room. When the only thing you tried
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to avoid after last year, in the previous couple of
years with the quarterback of disasters, the offensive coordinator just
being completely over his head and everyone making fun of you.
Is to bring in a player with pretty high name
recognition who is pissed off, who clearly isn't happy with you.
I just do not understand how they didn't see this coming.
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I can't even fathom imagining a different outcome when you
knew you were trading for this player in this situation
and with these circumstances. And this is why, and I
said this at the combine, when you're there in Indy
and you actually see the teams and you start talking
to people, and you just realize the overwhelming majority of
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the league, they're thirty two teams. You could argue ten,
maybe twelve are well run and have a shot every year,
and for the most part, it is the same freaking
twelve ten teams all the time. That's why the majority
of the playoffs over the last even just half decade
have been run by the same teams. It's why for
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a long time, in the peak of the Brady Belichick
it were the same three or four teams. It was
the Ravens, it was obviously the Patriots, it was Peyton
Manning squad, it was the Steelers, like a couple other teams,
rotated in and out, but there were consistent teams now
in the NFC, the Diners, the Rams, the Eagles, and
the Cowboys. Right. Doesn't mean they don't have weird situations,
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but they are so much more well run consistently. The
Lions now have thrown their hat in the ring with
their operation, at least based on a small sample size.
And then you have the Jets who have the record
currently for team sports playoff drout, and I just don't
think it's coincidence. It's funny with opportunities sports a lot
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like life. They can come and they go, and sometimes
certain people get more than a for whatever reason, for
whatever circumstance, and some guys get an opportunity, fail and
never get that shot again. When you look, and we've
talked a lot about the twenty twenty one quarterback class,
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Trey Lance is never getting a chance to be a
starting quarterback ever again, I would say the same thing
about Zach Wilson. It's never happening. It doesn't mean they
can't become one with injuries, work their way up a
depth chart. They will never be named the starter. As
of right now, Justin Fields gets traded to a team
with another quarterback that someone just paid eighty plus million
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dollars a dead cap to kick away. Can't beat the
guy out, Mac Jones. Very difficult for him to become
a starter again. These guys have been in the league
just a couple of years already flipped like that. Yet
Sam Darnold, who looked like his career was down the drain,
got a lifeline and it actually didn't start this year.
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Started the last year with Kyle sh Shanahan. And I
do think that belief in a coach who's viewed as
one of the best offensive coaches in the league changed
the perception about him. Goes there. He just told Albert Breer,
because let's face it, early on in his career was
kind of embarrassing. But we talked about this yesterday. When
it comes to the jet situation, most people can't overcome chaos,
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most people can't overcome dysfunction. Most people can't overcome awful coaching.
And that's what Adam Gase was, that's what Matt Rule
was as an NFL coach. Yet he goes to Kyle Shanahan,
he's their backup, and they all really liked him. They
felt comfortable if they had to start him in a game,
and at one point in time last season after Party
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got a concussion that Sam Darnold was going to start,
turned out pretty cleared, ended up starting, and Sam just
basically started the last game that they punted against the
Rams with a bunch of backups. But then Kevin O'Connell
came calling, So I want to give you ten million dollars.
We're gonna draft a quarterback. More than likely we got
a couple first round picks, but you're gonna be our starter.
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He said that, no ta's. He said that in the
start of training camp, and he hasn't relinquished that even
after JJ McCarthy look good. Then it turns out a
couple days later, JJ McCarthy needs knee surgery now as
of right now, torn meniscus. From what I read, you
don't know how long you're out until they do surgery.
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Could be a month, could be The season sucks. If
you're a Vikings fan, that is not what you want
to read. Glass half empty. If he misses the whole season,
you get all those reps. You know, Patrick mahomes. A
big part of his success, even though he red shirted,
was all the reps in practice constantly getting better, getting
used to and you Reid starting the last game, building
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that momentum in the year two, that would be off
the table. Obviously he's out for the year. Best case
scenario post surgery, misses the rest of training camp, maybe
a couple weeks in the regular season, can come back,
run scout team. Every thing's fine. But the bright side is,
this is not the Bears, this is not Washington. You
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didn't name your rookie the starter. You weren't planning on
starting him or even playing him. In a perfect world,
he wouldn't play all season long. And he signed Sam
Donald and now he has an enormous opportunity around a
young offensive coach that many believe is a rocket ship
with the best wide receiver in the league, with another
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guy who's probably gonna get suspended because of a bad duy,
but when he does come back after two or three games,
is one of the better young wide receivers. It looks
like in the league. In Addison, they signed Aaron Jones
last time I checked, he's a stud. They have a
superstar offensive tackle that they just gave a lot of
money to, and it's an incredible opportunity. And if you're
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lucky enough to screw something up, even if it's not
all your fault, and get handed another opportunity. You gotta
take advantage of it. And luckily for Sam Darnold, he's
not playing for a huge contract for the Vikings. They're
gonna go to JJ McCarthy unless they have to amputate
his lake. Like JJ McCarthy's going to be the Viking
starter in twenty twenty five, but he's playing for a
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lot of other teams that have a lot of question
marks at quarterback. Some do not have a quarterback. And
if you can be a twenty six year old who
can be successful with Kevin O'Connell, who has Kyle Shanahan
on your resume as a reference, someone's gonna pay you.
Someone's gonna give you some money, and you can go
from a laughingstock in this league, especially when you're a
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highly drafted player, to someone people covet pretty quick. We
just saw with Baker Mayfield no one will touch him.
Then he goes to Tampa resurrect his career, gets one
hundred million dollars. I'm not saying that's gonna happen here.
I wouldn't bet my life savings on it. But I
do know the right people believe in this guy and
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think there's something there. Now it's on Sam to prove it.
I've seen a lot, and I've talked to people that
have been to these practices that there's a lot of
positive stuff coming out of Eagle training camp in regards
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to the offense and most specifically the quarterback. Talk to
people that have been at these practices, they the Eagles
look really good, as they should. I mean, they got
a highly paid roster on offense. Quarterback makes a ton.
Wide receivers make a ton, tight end makes a lot.
Saquon Barkley, offensive linemen, both tackles are paid, guards paid.
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They got good players everywhere. They look good. I started thinking,
right because McCarthy, Sirianni Sirianni McCarthy. We're gonna talk a
lot about these two guys, and I feel like I've
come to the defense of McCarthy. I'm like, well, I
know he's let you down in the playoffs, but he's
won the division two out of three years. They won
twelve games three straight years. They he took the play
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calling and proved that he can call plays. Do I
think he's Andy Reid. No, but is he better than
the way the conversation is being talked about. Probably Now
With the Eagles, Sirianni almost feels like he's in a
no lose situation, or excuse me, a no win situation,
because if they lose, he's obviously screwed. But what if
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they win, and what if the offense is awesome? Well,
there's no pretending anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We all know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He's been excommunicated, told be the true CEO, stay away,
try not to get in people's way. Essentially, so if
the Eagles have success specifically on offense, guess what two
years ago they had that happen and they let the
offensive coordinator go to the Colts. Clearly, if they could
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have a redo last year, they would have taken a
redo and just kept Shane Psyching and gotten rid of Siriani.
But now they have Kellen Moore, who checks a lot
of boxes. In my opinion, he's one of the better
college players I've ever seen. He was remarkable at Boise State,
a dominant individual. I mean that those teams were awesome.
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So played quarterback at a really high level, even made
it in the NFL for a while as a backup
transitioned immediately to coaching and within a couple of years
was calling plays in the NFL an NFL play caller,
starting at like thirty one years old, so he has
many years of calling plays now for several different quarterbacks,
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Dakota Prescott, Justin Herbert, and now Jalen hurts well if
it does go well on offense and he has a
good rapport with a quarterback, because let's face it, does
Jalen have that much on the line this year? Maybe
with us that talk about football or fans, but financially no,
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He's already been paid. He's one of the highest paid
in the league. He got his as the kids say, bag.
I hate that word because you don't get bags of money.
This isn't the mob. You get direct deposits that are taxed.
But that's a conversation for another day. But regardless, I
would say Kellen Moore has a lot to gain because
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it's kind of twofold one. He has a ton of success.
He'd be a lock to get head coaching interviews. But
how would the Eagles let him go? Do they value
Sirianni's CEO approach that much that they would risk the
guy that they've given the biggest contract in the history
of the franchise. Who can impact that guy letting him
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leave the building again? They just had that happen. Once
you break up with someone and regret it, well, if
you find yourself in another good relationship and you go,
maybe I shouldn't go down that road again. And to me,
that's kind of what the Eagles feel like. They have
a previous situation in which they know they don't want
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to experience again. And if the Eagles are good on
offense this year, if their team's good, I don't see
how Kellen Moore gets out of the building. So you
could argue that if the Eagles lose, Sirianni's done. Even
if the Eagles win, he's probably in trouble as well.
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