August 19, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin points out some serious flaws the Steelers have and why it's time to start asking questions about head coach Mike Tomlin
He gives his reasons as to why he doesn't think Aaron Rodgers isn't the Jets best player
Caitlin Clark has proven she is a complete WNBA player
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh, We've got a good one today, live in Los
Angeles on a Monday. It's The Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. Chris Collins work stops by
Vinji Young, Texas football legend, stops by Ian O'Connor, who's
got that great book on wrapping it up on Aaron Rodgers.
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It's absolutely fascinating. Jamac also one hour from now, where
Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. So we have
a we have a packed show today and you know,
you know what I'm really happy about. You are seeing
Caleb Williams played the entire half. Bo Nix is getting
a lot of drives in Pittsburgh. They're only playing Russell
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Wilson and Justin Fields like they going to figure it out.
So I feel like there's been a little bit of
a pivot back to let's play the quarterbacks some snaps,
and the last couple of preseasons have been just like
I mean, basically third string guys. So I feel good
about this. Yeh bo Nicks woof, he looks great. So
let's start with the Steelers. Good God, are they awful
offensively again? So listen, if Belajet can get fired, if
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Andy Reid can get fired, and Pete Carroll can get fired,
I know he got an extension, but we can be
critical of Mike Tomlin. I mean, Russell Wilson had five
drives and one first down. Pass protection was awful. He
and Justin Fields and their mobile ten quarterback hits four sacks.
And these guys run well, they can't run the football now,
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they've tried that the last several years. Last year in
middle of the pack. So in the last five years,
Pittsburgh is thirtieth, thirtieth in total yards per game, below
Carolina blow teams, dysfunctional teams like the Raiders in Washington.
Only the Jets and Giants are worse. And it doesn't
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matter if it's old Big Ben young, Kenny Pickett, Mason
Rudolph doesn't matter. And now these guys two mobile guys.
They can't move the ball. Pass the Texan's terrible. And
by the way, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields the last
two years are the most sacked quarterbacks in the league.
So if you wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and
Russell is captain check down this weekend, they don't want
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to get hit. Would do you want to get hit?
If the last couple of years you're the most sacked
guy in the league. I wouldn't want to get hit either.
And so when you watch this kind of a neptitude
on one side of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell
you why. Because organizations the last ten years, like Washington,
the ownership was bad. They couldn't draft and develop. That's
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just a broke en franchise. The Raiders have felt like
a broken franchise. I would say the Jets and the
Giants right now. Jets have some players, let's not you know,
let's not be dishonest about that. They got some dudes,
but they kind of feel like a broken franchise. Pittsburgh doesn't.
Pittsburgh drafts well, really well, they develop well, they have
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excellent ownership. They're not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap.
And yet defensively they're always elite. Yet they're completely utterly
inapt on one side of the ball. That's on the
head coach. He's run through coordinators, he's run through quarterbacks.
That's on Mike Tomlin. They are awful. When a business
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is not broken, does many things fundamentally well, and you
have a department of the business, you know, maybe maybe
the sales part of your business is lousy, but the
marketing's good, the engineering is good, well, then you have
to go well as the CEO. You got to go
to the sales manager and replace the sales manager because
everything else is humbling. At the company like Pittsburgh does
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everything well. They draft, they develop, free agency, they're smart,
it's stable. They are just in neft offensively, young old
Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter who the quarterback is. Justin Fields
and Russell Wilson are running for their lives. So this
is Mike Tomlin's culture, it's his locker room, it's his
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offensive coordinator, it's his responsibility. And Tomlin acknowledged it's not
good on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't
get a chance to see them operate, or US operate,
or us established rhythm and personality when you're not winning
possession downs, and we weren't, you know, the first three
or so a series of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It was you know, three and out.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And that's you're not gonna get an opportunity to establish
rhythm or played a way that you would like as
an individual or collective. We didn't do a good enough
job of protecting the quarterback. We got to do a
better job in past protection than we did, not only
in possession downs, but just in general. And I was
really upfront with the group about it. In that regard.
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That can't be a problem for us. We got to
be better than we were tonight in that area.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They haven't been good for like seven years in that area,
and they can't produce a rhythm now last year, the
year before, the year before again. I think Tom would
be a great broadcaster. I don't think he's a bad coach.
But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly and Pete
Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out of New England.
This is the coach's responsibility. How many OC's we've had
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in the last seven years. I mean the Draft picks.
This is an organization like Green Bay that drafts and
develops really really well. It's on Mike Okay, So I
was later today next hour. We have Ian O'Connor, a
friend and a great New York Times best selling author,
the Aaron Rodgers book. It's all over everywhere. I saw
Fox News talking about it. You got the other networks
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talking about it, other shows on this network. It's getting
tons of play on podcasting, and it deserves it. Really
interesting book, but you know, and it's about Aaron Rodgers,
and it's fascinating his family and the complexities and how
far treated him poorly. And it's not all bang on Aaron.
It's it's a deep, complex look into a complex guy.
But you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this.
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So the last time Aaron Rodgers made a Pro Bowl
was twenty twenty one. So since that time, CJ. Stroud
is coming to the league. He's a top gun quarterback now.
In twenty twenty Burrow, Herbert Tua, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurtz
all got drafted and about that time just before Aaron's
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last Pro Bowl, They've all exploded. They're all much better today.
So if you look at the AFC, I mean the
NFL quarterback plays exploded last five six years. But even
since Aaron Rodgers won his last Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty one, and I think by twenty twenty one it
had been established Aaron was making his last Pro Bowl.
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Mahomes was better, Josh Allen was bigger, stronger. Lamar did
things Aaron couldn't so physically, by the time he made
his last Pro Bowl, he wasn't as dynamic as Lamar,
as Josh as Mahomes top of the class. And now
Burrow's better, and two is better, and Hurts is better,
and Herbert has hardball and c J. Stroud and Trevor
Lawrence has his best roster, and a lot of the
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young quarterbacks I like, or quarterbacks I like, have offensive
head coaches or great coordinators c J. Stroud, Matt Stafford Mahomes,
like Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, Tua Brock, perty Joe Burrow,
justin Herbert. Finally, they have offensive coaches or great coordinators.
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We love Jared goff as Ben Johnson. You know, a CJ.
Strouds offensive coordinator going to be a head coach next year.
Aaron's got Mat Hackett and Robert Salah and has taken
four snaps in five hundred plus days. So this idea
I was. I got into this discussion this weekend, this
idea that thank God, the Savior is back. Well, Sauce
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Gardner is a better corner than Aaron is a quarterback,
and Quinn Williams is a better defensive tackle than Aaron
is a quarterback. And my guess is you will find
out this year that Garrett Wilson's a better receiver than
Aaron is a quarterback, and Breece Hall is a better
running back. He's top three in the league. I think,
when healthy, that Aaron is a quarterback. The defense is
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better than the offense. Are we sure Aaron Rodgers is
the savior? And instead we will look at this team
by Thanksgiving and going I'd like to be a little
younger and more dynamic at quarterback. This idea that Aaron's
gonna save it. He's not their best player. Sauce Gardner,
Quinn william Garrett Wilson, these are top of the class guys.
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I think Bryce Hall would healthy. There's an argument he's
a top two back in the league. That kid is explosive.
I do think the offensive line will get better this year.
Cross your fingers on Tyron Smith's health and Elijah Vera
Tucker's health and the rookie from Penn State. But you
start looking around. I've watched old quarterbacks fall off a cliff.
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Peyton Manning was in Super Bowls then he was thirty nine,
had nine touchdowns and seventeen picks, fell off a cliff.
I watched Brett Fahr fall off a cliff eleven touchdowns,
nineteen picks the year after he was sensational in Minnesota.
Aaron's the oldest player in the league coming off a
major surgery. I mean again, his last season in Green Bay,
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he had a lower passer rating with a good old
line with a good running game. He had a lower
passer rating with a good coach than Daniel Jones. I
think New Yorkers are going, oh, this is the saving.
Saviors are usually players in their prime, like Aaron Judge
or show Hey o'tani like saviors are Mahomes or Josh Allen.
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They're players in their prime, often inexpensive early in their prime.
So you know, I kind of look at this, And
that's not to mention all the side stuff with Aaron,
which this book points out. I mean, Eric Mangini is
one of the nicer guys I've ever worked with, and
he tends to be pro player and pro franchise. But
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I mean even he has he had this blunt kind
of opinion last week on Aaron's character, which is you
cannot deny it once you read this book.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He doesn't care about
the other ten guys. He cares about himself. And with
Tom Brady, Tom was coachable. Tom wanted to be coached,
and even though Tom was the greatest at that position,
he was opened ideas that could make him better. But
for Aaron, he is just gonna do whatever he wants
to do, whatever's best for him. You are the ten guys.
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If it's not good for you, it's not good for
the coaching staff, it's not good for anybody else. It
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He's not wrong. Ian O'Connor one hour from now, Colin Wright,
Colin wrong as well. I don't want to go hard
on the Jets, but I will say this, he is
not the best player on the team, and I think
it will be established very early. He's not a top
four player on the team. Sauce quinnin Garrett Breese our
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dynamic jump off a TV screen. He's taking four snaps
in five hundred days and he's forty. And I watch
Manning in farv fall off a cut lift, don't you.
He's not Lebron and he's not Brady. He is not
that obsessive about his health. He did not get that DNA.
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He's not as big as Tom. He's not as obsessed
as Tom. He's not as big as Lebron. Lebron's a
freak of nature. Aaron's just really talented. He's not a
freak of nature. Just saying you think he's the savior,
I think you could look up. I think you could
look up and look around at a C. J. Stroud
and a Burrow and a Trevor Lawrence and Herbert with
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Harbaugh and Josh Allen and Lamar and Deshaun's got Stefanski
and go I wish we were a little younger at
quarterback and moved a little better. I don't think that's crazy,
Jay Mack. I know that starts your week with a
bit of a thud, a negative.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Come on, we're buddies. It's Monday. It's a great week ahead.
But you have a really great week coming up. I
have a good week coming up.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
You don't need to take a dump on the Jets
to start the show. Where's a Caleb Williams. I expect
you move to come out here basically saying he's the
savior of the NFL and he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, we will say he is interesting.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He played the first half. Couldn't take my eyes off him.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
It's almost it's like Brock perty when I watch him
in playoff games, just dominating.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm like, oh, how was Brock this weekend? Without starters?
I don't know, I didn't watch pre season eleven yards passing?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Not worth?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
How many eleven? That's funny when you put him on
a roster equivalent to Carolina, what was he eleven yards past?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Here we go, we see we combative today. You're choosing violince. Huh.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, So did you see the Caitlin Clark over the weekend?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I saw that. Wow, Like that is something. Man, we
are watching this, this is magic, And I had a
thought about not just Caitlin Clark and women's basketball. But
it may be a nightmare for Major League Baseball, and
I'll tell you that coming up.
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
So, by the way, Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, Caitlin
Clark's driving the TV ratings, but Angel Reese is having
a monster season. Both feel like all stars to me,
not the best players in the league, but all star
level players. And Caitlin Clark just set the record for
a WNBA rookie record for assist She is a complete playmaker.
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And I'm watching it this weekend and I'm watching all
the NFL and NBA players and different pro athletes and
celebrities go on social media and they're watching the WNBA.
And I don't see that with baseball a lot. And
I was just thinking about this. If you ran a
sports network, and these are big decisions, and you could
have a ten year contract with a WNBA or a
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ten year contract with baseball and the WNBA is won
eighth the price, what would you choose? What would you choose?
Basketball players last forever. She could play for fifteen years.
This is a rookie season. This is Angel Reese's rookie season.
WNBA has got a younger audience, It's growing quickly. It's
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got a greater ceiling, relatively inexpensive TV rights right in
the middle of the summer. We know this with stocks
and Wall Street. It's all about timing and purchase price.
This league is a buy now. It was growing before
Caitlin Clark, much better than the NBA or baseball. It
was growing. She's the accelerator. And when something is truly big,
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it doesn't just elevate their business, it kills other businesses.
Uber killed Taxis. Didn't just make our life easier, It
killed Taxis. I mean Connor McGregor not only elevated UFC.
It feels like he was the beginning to the end
of boxing. And I'm watching Caitlin Clark and I'm watching this,
and I'm like, there's a reason Major League Baseball in
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the last two years is making wholesale changes international games.
Let's put a man at second base. The pitch clock
now they are introducing they want to introduce next year.
Starters have to pick pitch six innings unless they get hurt.
Why is baseball making these moves because ESPN has told them,
We're not buying your sport, and fall doesn't have as
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keen interest in it either. Because Fox is an NFL
College Football World Cup network. That's what it is. Every
network makes choices, you know, and we have chosen football,
and I totally agree with it. I just I'm looking
at this, these arenas, this energy, the celebrities, the ratings,
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right in the middle of the summer, and you look
at Baseball's changes. They are making these changes because they
have to. The NBC is not interested. The Major League
Baseball Apple deal was a mess. The Roku deals embarrassing,
Like this is not going away. Women's basketball is smack
dab in the summer. It's catching fire. She's a rookie.
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It's not like Larry Burden. Magic got smaller over time.
It usually takes America a while. We're very distracted. This
is a political year. There are just some people that
are sitting on Fox News, MSNBC or CNN and will
be for the next six months, right, Like that's what happens.
This is their rookie year. We have you know, it's
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an election year. This was a World Cup year. When
the summer next year is all open for the WNBA,
what do the ratings do then. So this was a
sport that was growing, but between the celebrities and the
upside and the youth, you know, it's not like the
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NBA didn't exist pre Magic and Bird, But over the
next ten years it became a monster, and it replaced
a lot of baseball talk, It replaced some college football talk.
Even a lot of the times Badgic and Magic and
Bird overshadowed the NFL. So I'm just watching this and thinking,
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Caitlin Clark is emotional, and she can be chippy, and
she's getting technical fouls, and she is a playmaker. She
is you know, edge all Steph Curry here, and she
talked about her tea after the game.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I got it technical from basically being mad at myself
because I missed the three and then I went and
hit the backboard and he told me it was disrespectful
to the game of basketball. So I don't know. It
reminded me of the technical that I got in college,
where I said, damn it, where it's like a personal
frustration had nothing to do with my team, had nothing
to do with their refing had nothing to do with
other team. It was just because I'm a competitor. But
I think he fired me up to continue to play
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a lot harder. I thought we got a lot better
after he did that, so I want to thank him.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, we are at the This has been a very
distracted summer. It's a Kamala, It's Trump, it's Coopa, it's
the Euros, it's the World Cup. You take all that
stuff out and just say here you go, Caitlin Clark.
I mean I say this. Angel Reese is important too.
I think she just set a rookie record for double doubles.
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So we're going to have this rivalry is at the
very beginning. It is going nowhere. When you watch baseball's changes,
they're seeing the numbers they're seeing right now. If I
was a sports network, I would buy the WNBA. I
got three months in the summer. What else is there?
Little League World Series, regular season baseball. I would buy
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any package I could of the w NBA. And I
did not feel that eighteen months ago, twelve months ago,
J Mack with a news. Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Let's start with your Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, Colin, Listen,
He's had He's been compared a lot to Patrick Mahomes,
and that was before he took his first preseason snap. Well, uh,
this weekend we saw Tyreek Hill teasing Caleb, and Caleb
said after the game he downplayed his amazing performance which
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he was compared to Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
That's respect, you know, It's it's cool and all, but
you know, I'm Caleb Williams, Patch Mahomes, Patch Mahomes, tyre Ki,
Tyreek Hile. You know, I much love to them and
things like that. Met him, talk to him both and
things like that. But you know, we're here. We're here
to win games for Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He looks, man, they played them some snaps too. We
got into this weird thing for a couple of years
that nobody played anybody in the preseason that you're seeing
like Bonecks taking real snaps, Caleb Williams playing entire half.
It's I'm telling you something. This is between the college
football realignment and between these young quarterbacks. I'm telling you
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I cannot wait the one o'clock window. You're gonna get
a lot of these Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams Bonnicks
are gonna be the one o'clock window, right like the
power teams, the Packers, the Lions, the Niners, the Eagles,
the Chiefs, Baltimore, the CBS and Fox gonna put those
NBC late window games the one o'clock window. It's gonna
be exhilarating this year.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I just I don't want to pour cold water on
what Caleb did over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It was fun, exciting.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
It was the backyard football stuff, which we were early
on I don't think other shows were talking about the
backyard football, and caught up with him against Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Remember he thought he could just make plays, scramble around
or Notre Dame destroyed it.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It was like an embarrassing performance. You had some of
these draft guys say, oh, I don't know if you
could take him one.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Look, he's struggling.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
The backyard football's fun, Colin, but he has to win
from the pocket. Here's the vanilla defenses he's seeing now.
The stuff he was doing this weekend. In the preseason,
it was splashy. You cannot live continuing that like fifteen
times a game.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's not gonna work, Colin, As it takes two years
for the lights to go on for young quarterbacks Lamar
Mahomes more Josh Allen, it is an advantage to be
able to run around Russell Wilson. Even Mahomes admitted year three,
the light went off, the game slowed down. So I
do think it's an advantage to not be Jared Goff,
to not be just a pocket passer. As you're learning
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the pocket, you can move the chains with your feet.
And I think that's the other thing is Chicago's been
so unwatchable offensive. Oh, it's just fun to watch the Bears.
But if you're a consumer, you're you live in Chicago,
you can't wait to go to the games because it's
such a magic trick. I mean, it's just last year
they were so bad in the fourth quarter. They I
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mean if they had a lead, they lost it. There
was only like one way to win and that was turnovers.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And I think they were two and six in one
score games. They were just blew three fourth quarter. And
this is a team that won seven games as such,
I know Bears fans are gonna be unhappy. I'm talking
about the backyard football. I've upgraded the bill Bears to.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
A playoff team. In the NFC over the Vikings. Remember
I had Vikings a couple of weeks did. There's just
too much positive stuff with.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
The Bears, Goat, they have too many good players.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Just riddled me this who was the last number one
quarterback to come into the league and have this array
of weapons at his arsenal.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I mean last year his number two receiver was Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Okay, now it's like Keenan Allen Roma Dunze looks like
a player.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
They upgraded tight end running back. They've got so many
webs and I also think they've got their tackles right.
I think their on line has taken a lot of criticism,
but they're GM's a former all lineman, and I actually
think just fields holding onto the ball that long makes
you believe the O line's bad. I watch the Bears games.
The O lines not terrible. It's not top six, it's
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not Detroit, it's not Atlanta, but it's not the Giants.
It's a can you can win playoff games with that
O line. It's fine.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Eber Flues. I think the biggest question for.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Me is that's right, that's right. Same thing. I don't
doubt their personally. I think I wish they had one
more edge rusher. Well, he's coaching for his job. Guys
are coaching for their job. They tend to get a
little tight.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Hey Caleb, let's let's not drop back twenty five times
a game.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
We want to hand them all off and win with defense.
This improved, you know, and if you see that, like.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It is interesting. Sometimes in sports you get the perfect
combination of coach, you know, like Brady was a brilliant
offensive mine, Belichick a brilliant defensive mind. Andy Reid inspags.
They're both geniuses at what they do. And I will
say iber Flus has one advantage as a defensive coach.
Defensive coaches struggle for whatever reasons with O line development.
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His general manager is a former offensive lineman and drafts
the position well. And he's got a magical quarterback that
can add lib off script. And so, Ibra, if you
were a defensive coach and that's your and you said,
what do I need? Give me somebody that can solve
the offensive line, I don't have to worry about. And
give me a quarterback. I'm a pretty conservative guy who
can do stuff off script. So Chicago's got some components here.
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That really help a young defensive coach. Magic off script
at quarterback. I think Ryan Poles I first year in,
I had real doubts. You got to be fair with people.
He's had a very good eighteen months. He is really
really found some gems. I mean, even Gerald Everett tight end.
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Nobody talks about that like he was a fairly dependable
guy for the Chargers. He's very solid guy. He'll be
a two tight end. He can be a one on
five or six, seven, eight teams.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah. That Tennessee opener, that's got to make the best.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I'm not doing a first week blazing pub. I'll lay
off fin management, though, I will say I saw management
this morning in the break room. A lot of pressure
on week one.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Blazon five, I've already got four of my picks locked
in week one.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
All right, let's move on.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Let's move on.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Cowboys and CD Lamb are still working on that contract extension.
The team reportedly submitted a new offer that is slightly
under thirty three million ear three. Yeah, thirty three million
per year, but Lamb is said to want more than that.
Justin Jefferson set the market getting thirty five million per year.
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I don't know thirty three MILLI year and he's not happy.
That to me is almost a sign like are we
not going to.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
See him week one? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I thought it was a lock, but that is a
lot of coin for a wide receiver. Totally CD.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Lamb's not better than Justin Jefferson. I'm sorry. Now.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
What he means to the Cowboys is a lot because,
as you've been harping on, they don't have any weapons.
I know Clarence Hill said here was like, Hey, Jake
Ferguson's an elite tight end.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's like, oh, let's slow down.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
They just don't have a lot outside of Lamb.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
They're desperate. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Jerry, once again he screwed up a big, big money
free agent situation in Dallas. Final story Colin is, Oh, yeah,
here we go, awful football, Look at this.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Mike Tyson and Jake Paul have relaunched their fight.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Remember they were supposed to fight this summer, Well Tyson
had an issue.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
They have rescheduled it for November fifteenth.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
During a press conference this weekend, Paul was trying to
get Tyson to engage in trash talk, but Tyson wasn't
taking the bait.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
However, when the two came face to face, things.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Got physical, some punches are thrown.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
They had to be separated.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Look at Tyson just laughing, and you know when Tyson's
got that crazy man laugh, it's like, dude, you don't
want to be on I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
This felt this felt really Listen. I'm NETFLX, I do
this too. I mean, it's worth the role the dice.
If I'm Netflix, I'm not. I guests at them doing it.
You're a streamer, you're making massive money. They're kind of
getting into the sports business. Like I get Netflix doing this,
the receiver series, the quarterback like, I get it. They're
tiptoeing in. I watched this and I thought, oh, I
(27:13):
don't know, it's a put on very stage.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah yeah, but will do will the young audience who
loves this.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Jigo I think, I I YouTube. I'm in supportive of
Jake Paul. I think he's a I think in this
day and age, he's a big, strong kid. He's totally
committed to it. I don't think he's an all timer, obviously,
but I don't know. They're just part of me. Thinks
if Mike can get to him in the first two rounds.
That's it. Mike does not want this puppy to go
six rounds Like, that's not old guys, get them early.
(27:42):
Like if I'm Mike Tyson, first two rounds is the fight?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Does this devalue boxing?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Colin?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I just ask I think I think UFC is killed boxing.
I mean I watched the UFC card in Perth, Australia
this weekend. Had a blast, had a blast. I love
a great final fight. By the way, I'll take your
word for it. Great Boxing's not on my radar, but
this is well, it's become almost boxing is like the
(28:08):
only thing that gets me into Carnival. It's like anytime
a sport is like gets real purists you don't understand boxing.
Congrats Champ, knock yourself out. I watch UFC.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, Mayweather's basically done.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
There's good, but doesn't get me to a doesn't. He's
not an exciting, fun knockout guy. No, So I mean
this is it's a side show. So I mean UFC fights.
I'm at the edge of my seat. I'm sitting there
for an hour. I can't take my eyes off the screen.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, and like Jake Paul yelling at the audience, You
stupid liberals in New York who cares about politics?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I thought the beginning of that line was funny. He
goes New York, You're just like Tyson, you were great
twenty years ago. That made me laugh. He didn't have
to go into the politics. But why is well new York?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
As a New Yorker? I take umbradge to that. I think,
you know, Jake Paul's a bit of a dope. But anyways,
what was New York better? Why was it or twenty years?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I think it's had COVID, cannabis legalization, bad politics, They've
got problems, like a lot of big cities. I think
New York's had better decades.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Well, where's Jake Paul? From Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's a fine, beautiful oh yeah, a little warmer Mississippi
and from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
He's from Ohio.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think, so it's a very bad Ohio. You ever
been to Columbus?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
No, it's very nice missing out, it's a very nice.
I've heard decent things about Ohio. Isn't that We're all like,
I'm not going to get in a mess.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And drugs, Well, let's not get into that. I think
I've been to Columbus four or five times.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I'll take New York over Ohio every day of the week. Okay, well, I.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Probably Upstate New York is very nice stop from Buffalo. Okay.
My wife used to work in hr. She claims Buffalo's
got the nicest people in the country. Again, very nice
summers and falls.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
You just don't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, that's not right. How do you know. I may
retire by Niagara Falls, have a little cottage, or I
stare the waterfalls in great serenity. You just you have
literally two places in America you're willing to live. I'm
out there one of the people I want to I
may just retire right next to Niagara Miami or Ohio?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Miami?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Would you rather live life? Wouldn't live in Miami. She
thinks it's two nightclubs. She wouldn't live there. I love,
wouldn't let us live there.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
That's a city for me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Lie Colin Colin wrong, top of the hour. By the way,
I told you I'm excited for Washington, and I'm going
to tell you how Jade and Daniels has a chance
to be the next steph Curry. I'm not joking. I'm
not joking on this.
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Speaker 1 (31:32):
So Jaden Daniels played very very well again for Washington.
For those who have have not been listening to me
since the draft, I think Washington is my surprise team
in the NFC. I think they're gonna make the playoffs
and every year. Last year it was the Rams, I
said they're better than people think. The year before it
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was the Vikings. So I'm on a two season heater.
This is my third. I think Washington's gonna be a
pretty good not a super Bowl team, pretty good team
right away. And it's because of Jayden Daniels. But it's
I just want to give you a cop here. People
forget because from nineteen ninety five to about twenty fifteen,
the Warriors were just invisible. Sacramento became a more notable
(32:17):
NBA franchise, bad ownership, bad draft picks, if the culture
was weird, and you forget what a great basketball city
San Francisco was. I grew up and the Warriors had
Rick Berry. They were great, and the city loves basketball.
But it's like after a while, people Chicago loves basketball too.
After a while, people just give up. If you have
(32:38):
the wrong owners, aging owners or if you got the
wrong you know, coaches and players and so, and then
Steph Curry arrives about this time, they get new ownership
two thousand and nine, twenty ten. He's a skinny kid,
little small, little, skinny, little fin highly creative with a
new owner, and all of a sudden, very quickly, because
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Steph was good in year one, Oh oh, this Sam Francisco,
Oakland's back. You forget what a great basketball city this is.
And Jaden Daniels similarly, new owner. You forget what a
great football city Washington, DC was. They used to have
a twenty five year waiting list. When I was a
kid growing up, the best fans in the sport were
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Washington the stadium RFK Stadium rocked on television, twenty twenty
five year waiting list. The Packers when I was a
kid growing up, stunk in the seventies and eighties, right
like nobody talked about it was Washington, George Allen, Super Bowls,
most loyal fans. And then you get a bad owner.
And so it just reminds me and don't forget. Steph
(33:45):
Curry was not the first point guard taken in the draft.
Jaden Daniels is not the first quarterback taken in the draft. Also,
remember in Steph Curry's draft class, there was enough other
player that got much more publicity, was bigger, he was
considered more dynamic, Blake Griffin. In Jaden Daniels draft class,
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there is a player that's thicker and more dynamic, gonna
steal most of the thunder Caleb Williams new ownership, small
guy A Steph Curry everags twenty eight to twenty nine
a game, but everybody said it's against the competition he
played against. He put up huge college numbers UH Jaden
(34:29):
Daniels last year fifty touchdowns, four picks. Well, a lot
of those games against the weaker team. So the criticism
for both isn't their lack of UH dynastic qualities or
not there there are, or dynamic qualities. It is that, well,
you know, they got a lot of their numbers against
weaker competition. Steph Curry eighteen a game as a rookie,
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new owner changed everything. You're like, man, I forgot they
love basketball in the Bay. I think he's gonna hit.
I think he's gonna hit fast. I think I think
you're gonna see Washington get really good, really fast. Now.
It took a while for Steph. He had Don Nelson,
he had Mark Jackson. He had to get the right
offensive coach to explode. And is Dan Quinn it I
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don't know, but Dan, seeing what we're seeing, he's good
right now.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
He had another really good outing. Honestly, I don't know
passing wise what it was, but uh the accuracy, the
decision making of where to go. He really is a
unique competitor. And uh so, but yes, he was definitely
in trouble again with the with the head coach. That's
exactly right. So he does not have a zero POI zero.
(35:41):
I will absolutely assure you of that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay. Also, now j Mack is flopping around on his team.
That's going to shock the world. Not this host. It's
Washington and it's Denver. So I don't know if you've
noticed this. Bonix is really good right now. I know
now it's pre season. I know it's just preseason, but
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I have I said this Friday, top three quarterbacks taken
have defensive coaches. He has Sean Payton defensive coach or
next to Andy Reid, arguably the best offensive coach in football.
Think it matters for a young quarterback sixty one college starts?
Are you watching this kid? He is tearing it up.
(36:30):
And as Sean Payton was talking about Bo Nicks on
the Scoop City podcast with Diana Rossini, listen to this,
what did you know?
Speaker 12 (36:38):
It was the guy that you wanted no matter what
the individual workout. After the meeting, we went on to
the field in about throw sixteen, I just said to George,
this is a guy. I'd say the single most important
trait besides his processing, which is always hard to really measure, Yeah,
I'd say, is his ability to throw from the dirty pocket.
You know, there's just a little bit of penetration and
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he kind of take that quick step up and be
right on points.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I know what you're saying, Colin, you can't judge the
preseason time out, time out. You're gonna tell me all
you fanboys for Dak Prescott. After one preseason game you
were like, get Tony Romo out of here. Remember that
game at the Coliseum in LA. You literally made a decision.
Super Bowls to follow. I do think you can see
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overwhelmed very quickly. You can see bad mechanics, anxiety from
a quarterback very quickly. You can see when somebody's got it.
B Nix has it. This is a fit. And again
I think JJ McCarthy, with an offensive coach and good
weapons would have excelled. He's out for the year. But
Pennix has a defensive coach, Caleb defensive coach Drake May,
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defensive coach Jayden Daniels defensive coach bow Knicks got arguably
the second best offensive coach in this league with good weapons,
and they brought Troy Franklin is best college receiver with
him and Mims and Courtland Sutton and two three backs
who are capable.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
O line.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Not terrible. Left tackle's good. I'm just telling you, I'm
watching this, and I know it's preseason, but you can
see lost very quickly. You know I'm watching Justin Field's career.
It didn't take long to goo man. He he didn't see.
Zach Wilson's a great example. You could see very quickly
he doesn't see the field. There's open guys, a bony season,
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and that arm strength is way better than he got
credit for zipping that puppy in there. It's very exciting.
I like to win vets before the season even starts.
I have already purchased jet skis, multiple jet skis. Ryan,
you want to go, Ryan, next summer, jet Skis on me.
We'll go out to the Lake. Old Bears making the playoff. Guy,
don't spend that money too quickly.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
A lot of trash talking here.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Washington and Denver. I am seeing a lot of good
things happen.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I'm looking at why Washington, so this may not be
a bad pick from you, right, it could happen. My
only thing is, Colin, are you ready for this? They
have eleven new starters when you combine offensive defense, six
on offense, five on defense, new rookie quarterback, new head coach,
new offensive coordinator, new owner. If Washington pulls this off,
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it would have to be some historic stuff. We don't
see this much turnover and this much newness become a
playoff team we just have.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
We don't see that.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well. Houston outside was all new, and I don't love
all new, but I do love when old stunk and
it's new. It'd be one thing if you're like, oh,
we lost an elite defensive coordinator. Boy, I'll tell you
that owner. We're gonna miss him. That organization had a
(39:50):
stink to it. You couldn't get out of the building
fast enough virtually, per player, per coach, per owner, per GM,
all upgrades, upgrades across the ball. I don't think all new,
but and again, I think it could be choppy in September.
That's why they're playing Jayden Daniels but I'm telling you
they have upgraded everywhere in this organization.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Washington's favored in three games this season. That's it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, that's now.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Well, if they if they shock Tampa in the opener,
that's an interesting game.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
They're favored now in three games. After they win the opener,
they'll be favored in six.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Well, they play the Giants, we two, that's a double.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
When they're two to zero, they'll be favored in nine games.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh, We've got a good one today, live in Los
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(00:48):
It's absolutely fascinating. Jamac also one hour from now, where
Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. So we have
a we have a packed show today and you know,
you know what I'm really happy about. You are seeing
Caleb Williams played the entire half. Bo Nix is getting
a lot of drives in Pittsburgh. They're only playing Russell
(01:09):
Wilson and Justin Fields like they going to figure it out.
So I feel like there's been a little bit of
a pivot back to let's play the quarterbacks some snaps,
and the last couple of preseasons have been just like
I mean, basically third string guys. So I feel good
about this. Yeh bo Nicks woof, he looks great. So
let's start with the Steelers. Good God, are they awful
offensively again? So listen, if Belajet can get fired, if
(01:34):
Andy Reid can get fired, and Pete Carroll can get fired,
I know he got an extension, but we can be
critical of Mike Tomlin. I mean, Russell Wilson had five
drives and one first down. Pass protection was awful. He
and Justin Fields and their mobile ten quarterback hits four sacks.
And these guys run well, they can't run the football now,
(01:55):
they've tried that the last several years. Last year in
middle of the pack. So in the last five years,
Pittsburgh is thirtieth, thirtieth in total yards per game, below
Carolina blow teams, dysfunctional teams like the Raiders in Washington.
Only the Jets and Giants are worse. And it doesn't
(02:16):
matter if it's old Big Ben young, Kenny Pickett, Mason
Rudolph doesn't matter. And now these guys two mobile guys.
They can't move the ball. Pass the Texan's terrible. And
by the way, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields the last
two years are the most sacked quarterbacks in the league.
So if you wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and
Russell is captain check down this weekend, they don't want
(02:37):
to get hit. Would do you want to get hit?
If the last couple of years you're the most sacked
guy in the league. I wouldn't want to get hit either.
And so when you watch this kind of a neptitude
on one side of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell
you why. Because organizations the last ten years, like Washington,
the ownership was bad. They couldn't draft and develop. That's
(02:59):
just a broke en franchise. The Raiders have felt like
a broken franchise. I would say the Jets and the
Giants right now. Jets have some players, let's not you know,
let's not be dishonest about that. They got some dudes,
but they kind of feel like a broken franchise. Pittsburgh doesn't.
Pittsburgh drafts well, really well, they develop well, they have
(03:22):
excellent ownership. They're not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap.
And yet defensively they're always elite. Yet they're completely utterly
inapt on one side of the ball. That's on the
head coach. He's run through coordinators, he's run through quarterbacks.
That's on Mike Tomlin. They are awful. When a business
(03:47):
is not broken, does many things fundamentally well, and you
have a department of the business, you know, maybe maybe
the sales part of your business is lousy, but the
marketing's good, the engineering is good, well, then you have
to go well as the CEO. You got to go
to the sales manager and replace the sales manager because
everything else is humbling. At the company like Pittsburgh does
(04:08):
everything well. They draft, they develop, free agency, they're smart,
it's stable. They are just in neft offensively, young old
Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter who the quarterback is. Justin Fields
and Russell Wilson are running for their lives. So this
is Mike Tomlin's culture, it's his locker room, it's his
(04:30):
offensive coordinator, it's his responsibility. And Tomlin acknowledged it's not
good on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't
get a chance to see them operate, or US operate,
or us established rhythm and personality when you're not winning
possession downs, and we weren't, you know, the first three
or so a series of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It was you know, three and out.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And that's you're not gonna get an opportunity to establish
rhythm or played a way that you would like as
an individual or collective. We didn't do a good enough
job of protecting the quarterback. We got to do a
better job in past protection than we did, not only
in possession downs, but just in general. And I was
really upfront with the group about it. In that regard.
(05:17):
That can't be a problem for us. We got to
be better than we were tonight in that area.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They haven't been good for like seven years in that area,
and they can't produce a rhythm now last year, the
year before, the year before again. I think Tom would
be a great broadcaster. I don't think he's a bad coach.
But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly and Pete
Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out of New England.
This is the coach's responsibility. How many OC's we've had
(05:44):
in the last seven years. I mean the Draft picks.
This is an organization like Green Bay that drafts and
develops really really well. It's on Mike Okay, So I
was later today next hour. We have Ian O'Connor, a
friend and a great New York Times best selling author,
the Aaron Rodgers book. It's all over everywhere. I saw
Fox News talking about it. You got the other networks
(06:06):
talking about it, other shows on this network. It's getting
tons of play on podcasting, and it deserves it. Really
interesting book, but you know, and it's about Aaron Rodgers,
and it's fascinating his family and the complexities and how
far treated him poorly. And it's not all bang on Aaron.
It's it's a deep, complex look into a complex guy.
But you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this.
(06:28):
So the last time Aaron Rodgers made a Pro Bowl
was twenty twenty one. So since that time, CJ. Stroud
is coming to the league. He's a top gun quarterback now.
In twenty twenty Burrow, Herbert Tua, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurtz
all got drafted and about that time just before Aaron's
(06:52):
last Pro Bowl, They've all exploded. They're all much better today.
So if you look at the AFC, I mean the
NFL quarterback plays exploded last five six years. But even
since Aaron Rodgers won his last Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty one, and I think by twenty twenty one it
had been established Aaron was making his last Pro Bowl.
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Mahomes was better, Josh Allen was bigger, stronger. Lamar did
things Aaron couldn't so physically, by the time he made
his last Pro Bowl, he wasn't as dynamic as Lamar,
as Josh as Mahomes top of the class. And now
Burrow's better, and two is better, and Hurts is better,
and Herbert has hardball and c J. Stroud and Trevor
Lawrence has his best roster, and a lot of the
(07:35):
young quarterbacks I like, or quarterbacks I like, have offensive
head coaches or great coordinators c J. Stroud, Matt Stafford Mahomes,
like Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, Tua Brock, perty Joe Burrow,
justin Herbert. Finally, they have offensive coaches or great coordinators.
(07:56):
We love Jared goff as Ben Johnson. You know, a CJ.
Strouds offensive coordinator going to be a head coach next year.
Aaron's got Mat Hackett and Robert Salah and has taken
four snaps in five hundred plus days. So this idea
I was. I got into this discussion this weekend, this
idea that thank God, the Savior is back. Well, Sauce
(08:20):
Gardner is a better corner than Aaron is a quarterback,
and Quinn Williams is a better defensive tackle than Aaron
is a quarterback. And my guess is you will find
out this year that Garrett Wilson's a better receiver than
Aaron is a quarterback, and Breece Hall is a better
running back. He's top three in the league. I think,
when healthy, that Aaron is a quarterback. The defense is
(08:41):
better than the offense. Are we sure Aaron Rodgers is
the savior? And instead we will look at this team
by Thanksgiving and going I'd like to be a little
younger and more dynamic at quarterback. This idea that Aaron's
gonna save it. He's not their best player. Sauce Gardner,
Quinn william Garrett Wilson, these are top of the class guys.
(09:03):
I think Bryce Hall would healthy. There's an argument he's
a top two back in the league. That kid is explosive.
I do think the offensive line will get better this year.
Cross your fingers on Tyron Smith's health and Elijah Vera
Tucker's health and the rookie from Penn State. But you
start looking around. I've watched old quarterbacks fall off a cliff.
(09:23):
Peyton Manning was in Super Bowls then he was thirty nine,
had nine touchdowns and seventeen picks, fell off a cliff.
I watched Brett Fahr fall off a cliff eleven touchdowns,
nineteen picks the year after he was sensational in Minnesota.
Aaron's the oldest player in the league coming off a
major surgery. I mean again, his last season in Green Bay,
(09:46):
he had a lower passer rating with a good old
line with a good running game. He had a lower
passer rating with a good coach than Daniel Jones. I
think New Yorkers are going, oh, this is the saving.
Saviors are usually players in their prime, like Aaron Judge
or show Hey o'tani like saviors are Mahomes or Josh Allen.
(10:12):
They're players in their prime, often inexpensive early in their prime.
So you know, I kind of look at this, And
that's not to mention all the side stuff with Aaron,
which this book points out. I mean, Eric Mangini is
one of the nicer guys I've ever worked with, and
he tends to be pro player and pro franchise. But
(10:34):
I mean even he has he had this blunt kind
of opinion last week on Aaron's character, which is you
cannot deny it once you read this book.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He doesn't care about
the other ten guys. He cares about himself. And with
Tom Brady, Tom was coachable. Tom wanted to be coached,
and even though Tom was the greatest at that position,
he was opened ideas that could make him better. But
for Aaron, he is just gonna do whatever he wants
to do, whatever's best for him. You are the ten guys.
(11:09):
If it's not good for you, it's not good for
the coaching staff, it's not good for anybody else. It
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He's not wrong. Ian O'Connor one hour from now, Colin Wright,
Colin wrong as well. I don't want to go hard
on the Jets, but I will say this, he is
not the best player on the team, and I think
it will be established very early. He's not a top
four player on the team. Sauce quinnin Garrett Breese our
(11:37):
dynamic jump off a TV screen. He's taking four snaps
in five hundred days and he's forty. And I watch
Manning in farv fall off a cut lift, don't you.
He's not Lebron and he's not Brady. He is not
that obsessive about his health. He did not get that DNA.
(11:58):
He's not as big as Tom. He's not as obsessed
as Tom. He's not as big as Lebron. Lebron's a
freak of nature. Aaron's just really talented. He's not a
freak of nature. Just saying you think he's the savior,
I think you could look up. I think you could
look up and look around at a C. J. Stroud
and a Burrow and a Trevor Lawrence and Herbert with
(12:18):
Harbaugh and Josh Allen and Lamar and Deshaun's got Stefanski
and go I wish we were a little younger at
quarterback and moved a little better. I don't think that's crazy,
Jay Mack. I know that starts your week with a
bit of a thud, a negative.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Come on, we're buddies. It's Monday. It's a great week ahead.
But you have a really great week coming up. I
have a good week coming up.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
You don't need to take a dump on the Jets
to start the show. Where's a Caleb Williams. I expect
you move to come out here basically saying he's the
savior of the NFL and he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, we will say he is interesting.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He played the first half. Couldn't take my eyes off him.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
It's almost it's like Brock perty when I watch him
in playoff games, just dominating.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm like, oh, how was Brock this weekend? Without starters?
I don't know, I didn't watch pre season eleven yards passing?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Not worth?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
How many eleven? That's funny when you put him on
a roster equivalent to Carolina, what was he eleven yards past?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Here we go, we see we combative today. You're choosing violince. Huh.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, So did you see the Caitlin Clark over the weekend?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I saw that. Wow, Like that is something. Man, we
are watching this, this is magic, And I had a
thought about not just Caitlin Clark and women's basketball. But
it may be a nightmare for Major League Baseball, and
I'll tell you that coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
So, by the way, Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, Caitlin
Clark's driving the TV ratings, but Angel Reese is having
a monster season. Both feel like all stars to me,
not the best players in the league, but all star
level players. And Caitlin Clark just set the record for
a WNBA rookie record for assist She is a complete playmaker.
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And I'm watching it this weekend and I'm watching all
the NFL and NBA players and different pro athletes and
celebrities go on social media and they're watching the WNBA.
And I don't see that with baseball a lot. And
I was just thinking about this. If you ran a
sports network, and these are big decisions, and you could
have a ten year contract with a WNBA or a
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ten year contract with baseball and the WNBA is won
eighth the price, what would you choose? What would you choose?
Basketball players last forever. She could play for fifteen years.
This is a rookie season. This is Angel Reese's rookie season.
WNBA has got a younger audience, It's growing quickly. It's
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got a greater ceiling, relatively inexpensive TV rights right in
the middle of the summer. We know this with stocks
and Wall Street. It's all about timing and purchase price.
This league is a buy now. It was growing before
Caitlin Clark, much better than the NBA or baseball. It
was growing. She's the accelerator. And when something is truly big,
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it doesn't just elevate their business, it kills other businesses.
Uber killed Taxis. Didn't just make our life easier, It
killed Taxis. I mean Connor McGregor not only elevated UFC.
It feels like he was the beginning to the end
of boxing. And I'm watching Caitlin Clark and I'm watching this,
and I'm like, there's a reason Major League Baseball in
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the last two years is making wholesale changes international games.
Let's put a man at second base. The pitch clock
now they are introducing they want to introduce next year.
Starters have to pick pitch six innings unless they get hurt.
Why is baseball making these moves because ESPN has told them,
We're not buying your sport, and fall doesn't have as
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keen interest in it either. Because Fox is an NFL
College Football World Cup network. That's what it is. Every
network makes choices, you know, and we have chosen football,
and I totally agree with it. I just I'm looking
at this, these arenas, this energy, the celebrities, the ratings,
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right in the middle of the summer, and you look
at Baseball's changes. They are making these changes because they
have to. The NBC is not interested. The Major League
Baseball Apple deal was a mess. The Roku deals embarrassing,
Like this is not going away. Women's basketball is smack
dab in the summer. It's catching fire. She's a rookie.
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It's not like Larry Burden. Magic got smaller over time.
It usually takes America a while. We're very distracted. This
is a political year. There are just some people that
are sitting on Fox News, MSNBC or CNN and will
be for the next six months, right, Like that's what happens.
This is their rookie year. We have you know, it's
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an election year. This was a World Cup year. When
the summer next year is all open for the WNBA,
what do the ratings do then. So this was a
sport that was growing, but between the celebrities and the
upside and the youth, you know, it's not like the
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NBA didn't exist pre Magic and Bird, But over the
next ten years it became a monster, and it replaced
a lot of baseball talk, It replaced some college football talk.
Even a lot of the times Badgic and Magic and
Bird overshadowed the NFL. So I'm just watching this and thinking,
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Caitlin Clark is emotional, and she can be chippy, and
she's getting technical fouls, and she is a playmaker. She
is you know, edge all Steph Curry here, and she
talked about her tea after the game.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I got it technical from basically being mad at myself
because I missed the three and then I went and
hit the backboard and he told me it was disrespectful
to the game of basketball. So I don't know. It
reminded me of the technical that I got in college,
where I said, damn it, where it's like a personal
frustration had nothing to do with my team, had nothing
to do with their refing had nothing to do with
other team. It was just because I'm a competitor. But
I think he fired me up to continue to play
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a lot harder. I thought we got a lot better
after he did that, so I want to thank him.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, we are at the This has been a very
distracted summer. It's a Kamala, It's Trump, it's Coopa, it's
the Euros, it's the World Cup. You take all that
stuff out and just say here you go, Caitlin Clark.
I mean I say this. Angel Reese is important too.
I think she just set a rookie record for double doubles.
(18:46):
So we're going to have this rivalry is at the
very beginning. It is going nowhere. When you watch baseball's changes,
they're seeing the numbers they're seeing right now. If I
was a sports network, I would buy the WNBA. I
got three months in the summer. What else is there?
Little League World Series, regular season baseball. I would buy
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any package I could of the w NBA. And I
did not feel that eighteen months ago, twelve months ago,
J Mack with a news. Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Let's start with your Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, Colin, Listen,
He's had He's been compared a lot to Patrick Mahomes,
and that was before he took his first preseason snap. Well, uh,
this weekend we saw Tyreek Hill teasing Caleb, and Caleb
said after the game he downplayed his amazing performance which
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he was compared to Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
That's respect, you know, It's it's cool and all, but
you know, I'm Caleb Williams, Patch Mahomes, Patch Mahomes, tyre Ki,
Tyreek Hile. You know, I much love to them and
things like that. Met him, talk to him both and
things like that. But you know, we're here. We're here
to win games for Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He looks, man, they played them some snaps too. We
got into this weird thing for a couple of years
that nobody played anybody in the preseason that you're seeing
like Bonecks taking real snaps, Caleb Williams playing entire half.
It's I'm telling you something. This is between the college
football realignment and between these young quarterbacks. I'm telling you
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I cannot wait the one o'clock window. You're gonna get
a lot of these Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams Bonnicks
are gonna be the one o'clock window, right like the
power teams, the Packers, the Lions, the Niners, the Eagles,
the Chiefs, Baltimore, the CBS and Fox gonna put those
NBC late window games the one o'clock window. It's gonna
be exhilarating this year.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I just I don't want to pour cold water on
what Caleb did over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It was fun, exciting.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
It was the backyard football stuff, which we were early
on I don't think other shows were talking about the
backyard football, and caught up with him against Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Remember he thought he could just make plays, scramble around
or Notre Dame destroyed it.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It was like an embarrassing performance. You had some of
these draft guys say, oh, I don't know if you
could take him one.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Look, he's struggling.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
The backyard football's fun, Colin, but he has to win
from the pocket. Here's the vanilla defenses he's seeing now.
The stuff he was doing this weekend. In the preseason,
it was splashy. You cannot live continuing that like fifteen
times a game.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's not gonna work, Colin, As it takes two years
for the lights to go on for young quarterbacks Lamar
Mahomes more Josh Allen, it is an advantage to be
able to run around Russell Wilson. Even Mahomes admitted year three,
the light went off, the game slowed down. So I
do think it's an advantage to not be Jared Goff,
to not be just a pocket passer. As you're learning
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the pocket, you can move the chains with your feet.
And I think that's the other thing is Chicago's been
so unwatchable offensive. Oh, it's just fun to watch the Bears.
But if you're a consumer, you're you live in Chicago,
you can't wait to go to the games because it's
such a magic trick. I mean, it's just last year
they were so bad in the fourth quarter. They I
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mean if they had a lead, they lost it. There
was only like one way to win and that was turnovers.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And I think they were two and six in one
score games. They were just blew three fourth quarter. And
this is a team that won seven games as such,
I know Bears fans are gonna be unhappy. I'm talking
about the backyard football. I've upgraded the bill Bears to.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
A playoff team. In the NFC over the Vikings. Remember
I had Vikings a couple of weeks did. There's just
too much positive stuff with.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
The Bears, Goat, they have too many good players.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Just riddled me this who was the last number one
quarterback to come into the league and have this array
of weapons at his arsenal.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I mean last year his number two receiver was Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Okay, now it's like Keenan Allen Roma Dunze looks like
a player.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
They upgraded tight end running back. They've got so many
webs and I also think they've got their tackles right.
I think their on line has taken a lot of criticism,
but they're GM's a former all lineman, and I actually
think just fields holding onto the ball that long makes
you believe the O line's bad. I watch the Bears games.
The O lines not terrible. It's not top six, it's
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not Detroit, it's not Atlanta, but it's not the Giants.
It's a can you can win playoff games with that
O line. It's fine.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Eber Flues. I think the biggest question for.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Me is that's right, that's right. Same thing. I don't
doubt their personally. I think I wish they had one
more edge rusher. Well, he's coaching for his job. Guys
are coaching for their job. They tend to get a
little tight.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Hey Caleb, let's let's not drop back twenty five times
a game.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
We want to hand them all off and win with defense.
This improved, you know, and if you see that, like.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It is interesting. Sometimes in sports you get the perfect
combination of coach, you know, like Brady was a brilliant
offensive mine, Belichick a brilliant defensive mind. Andy Reid inspags.
They're both geniuses at what they do. And I will
say iber Flus has one advantage as a defensive coach.
Defensive coaches struggle for whatever reasons with O line development.
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His general manager is a former offensive lineman and drafts
the position well. And he's got a magical quarterback that
can add lib off script. And so, Ibra, if you
were a defensive coach and that's your and you said,
what do I need? Give me somebody that can solve
the offensive line, I don't have to worry about. And
give me a quarterback. I'm a pretty conservative guy who
can do stuff off script. So Chicago's got some components here.
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That really help a young defensive coach. Magic off script
at quarterback. I think Ryan Poles I first year in,
I had real doubts. You got to be fair with people.
He's had a very good eighteen months. He is really
really found some gems. I mean, even Gerald Everett tight end.
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Nobody talks about that like he was a fairly dependable
guy for the Chargers. He's very solid guy. He'll be
a two tight end. He can be a one on
five or six, seven, eight teams.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah. That Tennessee opener, that's got to make the best.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I'm not doing a first week blazing pub. I'll lay
off fin management, though, I will say I saw management
this morning in the break room. A lot of pressure
on week one.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Blazon five, I've already got four of my picks locked
in week one.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
All right, let's move on.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Let's move on.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Cowboys and CD Lamb are still working on that contract extension.
The team reportedly submitted a new offer that is slightly
under thirty three million ear three. Yeah, thirty three million
per year, but Lamb is said to want more than that.
Justin Jefferson set the market getting thirty five million per year.
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I don't know thirty three MILLI year and he's not happy.
That to me is almost a sign like are we
not going to.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
See him week one? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I thought it was a lock, but that is a
lot of coin for a wide receiver. Totally CD.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Lamb's not better than Justin Jefferson. I'm sorry. Now.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
What he means to the Cowboys is a lot because,
as you've been harping on, they don't have any weapons.
I know Clarence Hill said here was like, Hey, Jake
Ferguson's an elite tight end.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's like, oh, let's slow down.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
They just don't have a lot outside of Lamb.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
They're desperate. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Jerry, once again he screwed up a big, big money
free agent situation in Dallas. Final story Colin is, Oh, yeah,
here we go, awful football, Look at this.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Mike Tyson and Jake Paul have relaunched their fight.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Remember they were supposed to fight this summer, Well Tyson
had an issue.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
They have rescheduled it for November fifteenth.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
During a press conference this weekend, Paul was trying to
get Tyson to engage in trash talk, but Tyson wasn't
taking the bait.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
However, when the two came face to face, things.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Got physical, some punches are thrown.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
They had to be separated.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Look at Tyson just laughing, and you know when Tyson's
got that crazy man laugh, it's like, dude, you don't
want to be on I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
This felt this felt really Listen. I'm NETFLX, I do
this too. I mean, it's worth the role the dice.
If I'm Netflix, I'm not. I guests at them doing it.
You're a streamer, you're making massive money. They're kind of
getting into the sports business. Like I get Netflix doing this,
the receiver series, the quarterback like, I get it. They're
tiptoeing in. I watched this and I thought, oh, I
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don't know, it's a put on very stage.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah yeah, but will do will the young audience who
loves this.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Jigo I think, I I YouTube. I'm in supportive of
Jake Paul. I think he's a I think in this
day and age, he's a big, strong kid. He's totally
committed to it. I don't think he's an all timer, obviously,
but I don't know. They're just part of me. Thinks
if Mike can get to him in the first two rounds.
That's it. Mike does not want this puppy to go
six rounds Like, that's not old guys, get them early.
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Like if I'm Mike Tyson, first two rounds is the fight?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Does this devalue boxing?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Colin?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I just ask I think I think UFC is killed boxing.
I mean I watched the UFC card in Perth, Australia
this weekend. Had a blast, had a blast. I love
a great final fight. By the way, I'll take your
word for it. Great Boxing's not on my radar, but
this is well, it's become almost boxing is like the
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only thing that gets me into Carnival. It's like anytime
a sport is like gets real purists you don't understand boxing.
Congrats Champ, knock yourself out. I watch UFC.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, Mayweather's basically done.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
There's good, but doesn't get me to a doesn't. He's
not an exciting, fun knockout guy. No, So I mean
this is it's a side show. So I mean UFC fights.
I'm at the edge of my seat. I'm sitting there
for an hour. I can't take my eyes off the screen.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, and like Jake Paul yelling at the audience, You
stupid liberals in New York who cares about politics?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I thought the beginning of that line was funny. He
goes New York, You're just like Tyson, you were great
twenty years ago. That made me laugh. He didn't have
to go into the politics. But why is well new York?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
As a New Yorker? I take umbradge to that. I think,
you know, Jake Paul's a bit of a dope. But anyways,
what was New York better? Why was it or twenty years?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I think it's had COVID, cannabis legalization, bad politics, They've
got problems, like a lot of big cities. I think
New York's had better decades.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Well, where's Jake Paul? From Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's a fine, beautiful oh yeah, a little warmer Mississippi
and from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
He's from Ohio.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think, so it's a very bad Ohio. You ever
been to Columbus?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
No, it's very nice missing out, it's a very nice.
I've heard decent things about Ohio. Isn't that We're all like,
I'm not going to get in a mess.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And drugs, Well, let's not get into that. I think
I've been to Columbus four or five times.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I'll take New York over Ohio every day of the week. Okay, well, I.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Probably Upstate New York is very nice stop from Buffalo. Okay.
My wife used to work in hr. She claims Buffalo's
got the nicest people in the country. Again, very nice
summers and falls.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
You just don't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, that's not right. How do you know. I may
retire by Niagara Falls, have a little cottage, or I
stare the waterfalls in great serenity. You just you have
literally two places in America you're willing to live. I'm
out there one of the people I want to I
may just retire right next to Niagara Miami or Ohio?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Miami?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Would you rather live life? Wouldn't live in Miami. She
thinks it's two nightclubs. She wouldn't live there. I love,
wouldn't let us live there.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
That's a city for me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Lie Colin Colin wrong, top of the hour. By the way,
I told you I'm excited for Washington, and I'm going
to tell you how Jade and Daniels has a chance
to be the next steph Curry. I'm not joking. I'm
not joking on this.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
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Speaker 6 (31:20):
Tonight, Carlos Santana and the Twins take on Manny Machado
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Speaker 11 (31:28):
On FS one.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So Jaden Daniels played very very well again for Washington.
For those who have have not been listening to me
since the draft, I think Washington is my surprise team
in the NFC. I think they're gonna make the playoffs
and every year. Last year it was the Rams, I
said they're better than people think. The year before it
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was the Vikings. So I'm on a two season heater.
This is my third. I think Washington's gonna be a
pretty good not a super Bowl team, pretty good team
right away. And it's because of Jayden Daniels. But it's
I just want to give you a cop here. People
forget because from nineteen ninety five to about twenty fifteen,
the Warriors were just invisible. Sacramento became a more notable
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NBA franchise, bad ownership, bad draft picks, if the culture
was weird, and you forget what a great basketball city
San Francisco was. I grew up and the Warriors had
Rick Berry. They were great, and the city loves basketball.
But it's like after a while, people Chicago loves basketball too.
After a while, people just give up. If you have
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the wrong owners, aging owners or if you got the
wrong you know, coaches and players and so, and then
Steph Curry arrives about this time, they get new ownership
two thousand and nine, twenty ten. He's a skinny kid,
little small, little, skinny, little fin highly creative with a
new owner, and all of a sudden, very quickly, because
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Steph was good in year one, Oh oh, this Sam Francisco,
Oakland's back. You forget what a great basketball city this is.
And Jaden Daniels similarly, new owner. You forget what a
great football city Washington, DC was. They used to have
a twenty five year waiting list. When I was a
kid growing up, the best fans in the sport were
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Washington the stadium RFK Stadium rocked on television, twenty twenty
five year waiting list. The Packers when I was a
kid growing up, stunk in the seventies and eighties, right
like nobody talked about it was Washington, George Allen, Super Bowls,
most loyal fans. And then you get a bad owner.
And so it just reminds me and don't forget. Steph
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Curry was not the first point guard taken in the draft.
Jaden Daniels is not the first quarterback taken in the draft. Also,
remember in Steph Curry's draft class, there was enough other
player that got much more publicity, was bigger, he was
considered more dynamic, Blake Griffin. In Jaden Daniels draft class,
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there is a player that's thicker and more dynamic, gonna
steal most of the thunder Caleb Williams new ownership, small
guy A Steph Curry everags twenty eight to twenty nine
a game, but everybody said it's against the competition he
played against. He put up huge college numbers UH Jaden
(34:29):
Daniels last year fifty touchdowns, four picks. Well, a lot
of those games against the weaker team. So the criticism
for both isn't their lack of UH dynastic qualities or
not there there are, or dynamic qualities. It is that, well,
you know, they got a lot of their numbers against
weaker competition. Steph Curry eighteen a game as a rookie,
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new owner changed everything. You're like, man, I forgot they
love basketball in the Bay. I think he's gonna hit.
I think he's gonna hit fast. I think I think
you're gonna see Washington get really good, really fast. Now.
It took a while for Steph. He had Don Nelson,
he had Mark Jackson. He had to get the right
offensive coach to explode. And is Dan Quinn it I
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don't know, but Dan, seeing what we're seeing, he's good
right now.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
He had another really good outing. Honestly, I don't know
passing wise what it was, but uh the accuracy, the
decision making of where to go. He really is a
unique competitor. And uh so, but yes, he was definitely
in trouble again with the with the head coach. That's
exactly right. So he does not have a zero POI zero.
(35:41):
I will absolutely assure you of that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay. Also, now j Mack is flopping around on his team.
That's going to shock the world. Not this host. It's
Washington and it's Denver. So I don't know if you've
noticed this. Bonix is really good right now. I know
now it's pre season. I know it's just preseason, but
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I have I said this Friday, top three quarterbacks taken
have defensive coaches. He has Sean Payton defensive coach or
next to Andy Reid, arguably the best offensive coach in football.
Think it matters for a young quarterback sixty one college starts?
Are you watching this kid? He is tearing it up.
(36:30):
And as Sean Payton was talking about Bo Nicks on
the Scoop City podcast with Diana Rossini, listen to this,
what did you know?
Speaker 12 (36:38):
It was the guy that you wanted no matter what
the individual workout. After the meeting, we went on to
the field in about throw sixteen, I just said to George,
this is a guy. I'd say the single most important
trait besides his processing, which is always hard to really measure, Yeah,
I'd say, is his ability to throw from the dirty pocket.
You know, there's just a little bit of penetration and
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he kind of take that quick step up and be
right on points.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I know what you're saying, Colin, you can't judge the
preseason time out, time out. You're gonna tell me all
you fanboys for Dak Prescott. After one preseason game you
were like, get Tony Romo out of here. Remember that
game at the Coliseum in LA. You literally made a decision.
Super Bowls to follow. I do think you can see
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overwhelmed very quickly. You can see bad mechanics, anxiety from
a quarterback very quickly. You can see when somebody's got it.
B Nix has it. This is a fit. And again
I think JJ McCarthy, with an offensive coach and good
weapons would have excelled. He's out for the year. But
Pennix has a defensive coach, Caleb defensive coach Drake May,
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defensive coach Jayden Daniels defensive coach bow Knicks got arguably
the second best offensive coach in this league with good weapons,
and they brought Troy Franklin is best college receiver with
him and Mims and Courtland Sutton and two three backs
who are capable.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
O line.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Not terrible. Left tackle's good. I'm just telling you, I'm
watching this, and I know it's preseason, but you can
see lost very quickly. You know I'm watching Justin Field's career.
It didn't take long to goo man. He he didn't see.
Zach Wilson's a great example. You could see very quickly
he doesn't see the field. There's open guys, a bony season,
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and that arm strength is way better than he got
credit for zipping that puppy in there. It's very exciting.
I like to win vets before the season even starts.
I have already purchased jet skis, multiple jet skis. Ryan,
you want to go, Ryan, next summer, jet Skis on me.
We'll go out to the Lake. Old Bears making the playoff. Guy,
don't spend that money too quickly.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
A lot of trash talking here.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Washington and Denver. I am seeing a lot of good
things happen.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I'm looking at why Washington, so this may not be
a bad pick from you, right, it could happen. My
only thing is, Colin, are you ready for this? They
have eleven new starters when you combine offensive defense, six
on offense, five on defense, new rookie quarterback, new head coach,
new offensive coordinator, new owner. If Washington pulls this off,
(39:20):
it would have to be some historic stuff. We don't
see this much turnover and this much newness become a
playoff team we just have.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
We don't see that.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well. Houston outside was all new, and I don't love
all new, but I do love when old stunk and
it's new. It'd be one thing if you're like, oh,
we lost an elite defensive coordinator. Boy, I'll tell you
that owner. We're gonna miss him. That organization had a
(39:50):
stink to it. You couldn't get out of the building
fast enough virtually, per player, per coach, per owner, per GM,
all upgrades, upgrades across the ball. I don't think all new,
but and again, I think it could be choppy in September.
That's why they're playing Jayden Daniels but I'm telling you
they have upgraded everywhere in this organization.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Washington's favored in three games this season. That's it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, that's now.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Well, if they if they shock Tampa in the opener,
that's an interesting game.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
They're favored now in three games. After they win the opener,
they'll be favored in six.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Well, they play the Giants, we two, that's a double.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
When they're two to zero, they'll be favored in nine games.
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