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We've missed you. What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand
new episode of Funking the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier. That's
my guy been asking. Hey, it's early, ben man. You
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got me up at five o'clock in the morning, do it?
I mean, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, you got me up at seven twenty. But since
you're earlier than me, you can't. I can't whine, right,
So this one of those things, dannual kind of you did.
You did the old mister Miyagi tricks. Because if you're
willing to wake up earlier that I am, I can't
possibly whind about it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's what I'm saying. Bro. It's like, but you gotta
you gotta disc golf tournament today. Hey, that's one of
the reason as your academy does so well, because you
treat people really good. You treat them You're taking to
play disc golf, which in my opinion, is the most
boring ship in those never played.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You've never played? I will, I will take you out.
We will have a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You think I would enjoy that? Yes, I've asked many people.
I've asked many people you think I would enjoy disc
golf with? Then they go, no, it's not gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I know that one time you guys, you guys had
discs on.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Uh was it us some UFC show?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You had a little bag that was fun?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Actually it was fun. I've played that was actually fun.
I've played. It's hard, though, it's really really hard, Ben Bro.
This old John Jones time Aspital Dana White situation will
not die. It won't go away because because you know
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why it won't go because its supposed to happen. Because
it's supposed to happen. That's why it won't go away.
There seems as no Tom Aspcalt now is unwilling to
just kind of go away into the dark.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, Tom is getting more aggressive, He's making his videos
and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Bro, he's getting more aggressive now as time goes on.
What are you making that?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Which if you were Tom Masvenal, why wouldn't you get
more aggressive?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He he just defended his belt. John is still there.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And you know, if John wanted to say if John
was retired, he said, hey, I'm retired.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I'm the best ever. Did it leave me?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Alone, young guy, I ain't trying to fight no more.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That would be great, but John Jones currently has the
well the have a heavy title, and he says, I'm
the champion.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So if you're the champion, you have to find your belt.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And in all the time that the UFC has been around,
I was trying to think of I instead. I was
trying to think of someone who Dana White is actually
like protected right where he has not made that person
fight the next best person, because that's kind of the
principle that the UFC has founded on, is it's not
like boxing. We're going to build you up at thirty
and oh, we're gonna put you in there against the
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best guys. I want to see if you can make
it or not. So that was has anyone who has
data ever protected anyone else? I couldn't think of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't know that he's protecting him because I don't
know that he needs to be protected.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well okay, but hold on.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
If you're saying not protecting, why are the number one
and number two guys not fighting?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Just because I feel like maybe they had a plan
and they're unwilling to go away from that plan. I
mean this isn't the first time we've seen that, right,
We've seen on many occasions where a business has a plan.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Macgregors was that McGregor and Chandler.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Bro don't don't do that, don't don't do it. Yeah,
please stop, But you're right, you're right, right, Yeah. In
some cases, when the plan has been made, but it
alternate becomes so right, they will be yes or obvious
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and they'll veer. It just seems as though the UFC
unwilling to veer off of the path that they have
already committed to with Stevebay versus Jones. But right now
it seems as though there should be no question as
to who should like. But Joe said, I'm thirty seven
years old. I've kicked everyone's ass. My job is to
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finish strong and make an amazing movie.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Go join Tom.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Brady, Lloyd Mayweather and all the other retired badasses. So
that Tom Askedo says, please make sure you pass me
the belt on the way out of the octagon if
you beat Biden, he.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Bro go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
God, Tom as is that's funny, that's funny. But the
fact that he's not being as respectful as he was before,
I think is a massive, massive uh win for Tom
Aspinhall because before it was easy to ignore him.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yes, did you see the video where he made where
he clipped them over and said, if you put John
Jones and Win in the room, John Jones is coming out.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Did you see this video with Data right?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, Data says that, but then Tom uses it. He
puts it in his video and he says, well, Data,
the problem is, I just got to get in the
room with him. And then he makes this little skin
about him trying to get in the same room with
John Jones and going to different places and trying to find them.
It's kind of funny and that he made a skin
about it. Yeah, so that's exactly what he should be doing.
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And I always feel like when we talk about this topic,
I feel like I'm crapping on steep Bay. But then
the reality situation of Steeve be hasn't fought in forever.
I actually looked this up. I think it's Tom has
fought seven times since the last time Steve has fought,
I believe really, And so again you have someone who's active,
who's proved they're the best, who's beaten everyone else, and
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actually rather convincingly he obviously has the Curtis blades lost
because he hurt his knee, but that's not really you know,
we know that didn't happen, and so yeah, there's just
never been situation where we haven't been able to see
an obvious number one and obvious number two.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
When they're both in the UFC.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We've had situations in the past where there's been a
contender outside of the UFC where we don't get to
see who we think is number one and number two. Yes,
but if they're both in the UFC, I literally can't
think of a time where number one number two have
not filed. I mean, you know what a funny one
that I was thinking about was because they weren't the
same division, but people an never saw it. We talked
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about GSP versus Anderson for a long time and it
never came to fruition, and people were frustrated by that
because I think, but they're on the same division.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's a little different, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But I think that's why that's why the UFC has
been so bullish on this, because do you remember when
John Jones was the light heavyweight champion, everybody was so
what if he goes up to heavyweight and fights Steep
Bay Arcade or one of those guys. And now it
feels like they're committed to answer that question from so
many years ago. That's that's where I think we are
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right now. Look, I believe it's wrong. I believe that
those guys should fight. Yeah, but John seems now I
don't know if he's trolling. He really can't be trolling
because I don't know John Jones to be openly saying
I'm just not fighting that guy. That doesn't seem to
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be his personality. But when you read that that tweet
or that that that post on X, how do you
not take from that that he just doesn't want to
fight this kid?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Ben?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, that's that's kind of what you take from it. Uh,
if our time astronaut, I would.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Just start going so hard.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I would start trying to you know, what he could do?
He could do like an Ali. Sonny Lesson, did you
are you a big Ali fan? You do you follow
his history?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I did? Okay, well, like a fan for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
When when he started showing up at the Stunning listens
Jim and like make him to.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It and stuff like.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And you know that's before social media even existed but
he went across the country to show up at the
guy's gym to antagonize him.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Like maybe that's something Tom asked, But just start considering.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Doing well, he you know what I think he might
benefit from doing. It's just saying flat out he's scared
of me. That's one thing he's never said, right, He's
never scared. He's never said he's scared of me. Yeah,
I would say he could flat out say this man
is afraid to fight me. People will draw to that
like nothing you've ever seen before. And then Ben and
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then when he says that openly say, Okay, I'm the
backup fighter for UFC two or three or whatever it
is in New York City. See, I'll be the backup fighter.
I will put myself in a position that if one
of these guys gets hurt, I'm in the fight. That's
what I would do. If I was basketball, I would
say he's afraid of me, that's why he won't fight.
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Here's the thing, though, It's really sad because on the
other side of this, Stepe is here as the challenger
for this belt. But if John Jones falls out, it
don't feel like people would be pining to watch steep
A fight tom Aspinall because Tom Aspinall has uh because
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Steve hasn't fought so long? What's making people want to
fight watch Jones and Steepe is the history of these things?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I feel like I feel like if you took a
fan poll, you know what, I should just do a
fan poll on Twitter? Which would you rather see Jones
versus Aspinall or Jones verse step I bet we're going
like eighty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Maybe more. Maybe I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do
it right now. I got my phone out right now.
What are you gonna do? Which put all? Put a poll?
Which who would you rather see?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You gotta do that.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It's easy.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You gotta do a poll on on on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
As all you do is this little look this little man.
You can't see it, can you? It's too bright, It's
like the fourth button over. It's so simple.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Okay, Hey, let's do that and tie it to our show.
I'll put that on my Instagram too. Who would you
rather see Jones versus steep A or Jones versus Aspital?
Vote in the comments and I'll make Luis to building.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
A beautiful graphic.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Every graph yeah, we'll get them to build a beautiful
graphic and everything, because bro, I just don't know that
the fans don't want that, because realistically, they want to
see John Jones compete against somebody they feel is threatening,
and I don't know how they cannot see Stepe as
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threatening because we also.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Want to who's the best in the world. We listen,
steep A was absolutely best world the one time, but
he end the fun in four years, so we.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Don't we don't even really know where he's at.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, like, for sure Tom Araspa is the best
in the world.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Uh well, he's beating everyone put in front of him.
But yes, I would would I like to see Stepe
or John Jones or Francis and Ghana put in front
uh aspinall and the answers yes. And one of the
reasons I would argue one of the reasons that UFC
has done so well is they have this essentially monopoly
on the sport of mixed martial arts and we almost
always get to see the number one versus number two guys.
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That's that's one of the reasons it does so well.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, you know this thing in it in it like, yeah,
I like that I like, I'm gonna go watch the
Tom Aspinault skit, and then I also want to see
it Luis again, Dude, Luis is almost intent on trying
to get me fired from my job. He is always like,
why is Dana White just defending John? It's wild, Like
nobody understands this, Like you have to tell me, Ben,
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why why why is that happening over and over again?
Do you think he just believes it so strongly that
he just inexplicable.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I mean I proposed last time that John might have
some dirt on him.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I don't know. I have no idea, but you he.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Just believes it. Maybe he just believes it. Maybe he
just believes it so he's saying it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it's just something we'd never seen out of Dana.
And that's why, to me it is inexplicable. I don't
have any good reason for it. So, yeah, I have
no idea.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It is a very different approach. I don't think I've
ever seen him so publicly.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Very public about it, while.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Publicly just kind of go, this guy's a band and
I mean, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well, if you want to say, if you want to say,
John Jones is the man that is an absolutely fair statement,
absolutely fair. But at the same time, tom Asnall has
a belt of yours. He has the interim Heavyweight Champion
of belt. He's now defended that belt.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Crazy when because it's so easy to see how good
this aspital is. So his dude is really good and
he's young stills, so it's like, I don't I don't know, man,
you know, you know what all. What also is very
uh interesting about this whole deal is John hasn't really
fought either, right, So it's.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Not like we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna watch two guys
that Steve hasn't fought since twenty twenty one to Joe's.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Like February of twenty one two, like early yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Joel's hasn't fought since last year, but before that he
hasn't fought between twenty yeah, So we're gonna have two
guys that haven't been very active in the octagomony. Name
recognition is very important, so we've got to hope that
that still sells.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Speaking of Dana's bad takes, I wanted to talk about
this I cut from morab last night. Okay, well, you
know what the thing is, and this is I guess
I'll start with the point that's completely besides Morob. But
the whole point of fighting is to hurt someone, and
frequently in fights you get cuts. I sure don't understand
why you can't fight with a cut right if you're
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if you get a cut in training and you're willing
to say I'm willing to step into the octagon with
a disadvantage, then what's the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, that's it's not you can't go into a fight
with why hold on? You know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
One of things I love about Eon Musk he so
when he's making SpaceX and they talk about his last book,
the only person, the only people who had done rockets
before him was NASA. And so when someone said we
can't do that, he would say why And they would say, well,
there's a law of regulation, and he would say, why
is that a law of regulation? Who made it? Go
find out and then let's see if we can't get
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it over torn. Yes, I get that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I get that, So tell me why, because you can't
go into a fight with a cut.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Man, But give me a reason, not just it's the rule,
Give me a good reason.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's a rule. The moment fight starts right Rob D
Waller's really has a bad cut. Well, Rob Waller has
a cut. The moment trouble about hit that thing, the
cut splits even more.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Okay, Okay, Now.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You got a guy that is so limited from the
very start of the fight, that is not out fighting limited. Okay,
So your the eye cut in the blood here, that's
not gonna affect you? Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I had cut?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Have you not been cut before?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
If it's up here where it's going in your eye,
it can. If it's over here, it's going to train
this way, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Then, I am trying to tell you that when I
fought Alexander Gustus, I had a cut here and a
cut here.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, the ones over your eye, those are the ones
that affect you.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But every single time it touched it or it hit it,
it just felt like somebody's born alcohol.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, but that's just you're not very tough.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
No, dude, that have you cut the fight? Yes, I've
ever been cut. It hurts so bad. It doesn't It
didn't hurt you. But it's a.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Fight, Oho, boy is to hurt them. That's like so okay,
So back to my resu.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
If you're willing to step in there with the advantage,
and then I you know, I guess the real argument
would be, well, are we having fighters who don't have
a lot of money and they're you know, risking their livelihood.
But it's like, well, well we're going to fight. We
can get cut anyways. I mean, the whole point is
to hurt them bad enough where they can't fight anymore.
So if someone's willing to walk in there was a disadvantage,
I don't really see the issue all that much.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
That's an issue.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's a cut, it's a cau It's not like it's
I can't use my arm, but I just will get
on my shoulder and I can't use my arm and
I'm fighting one handed.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Or so we saw.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
We saw Dan Hooker one time break is on. Yeah,
you know Dan.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Hooker is and he's still won the fight.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
He's still won.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
So I mean, I just don't see why. I feel like,
if you're willing to accept this advantage. But now, in
Morobs situation, the cut was like medium bad and it
wasn't a good spot. It was off the side, wasn't
even over high. It's like, dude, that cut's gonna be
plenty healed by the time the fight gets there is.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Time to heal. That's the beauty in it.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
There's plenty of time. Yes, so, but the.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Issue with it is now the training has to change.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
He doesn't have to train. It doesn't have to change
that much.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You're gonna wear a thick cat you're gonna you're gonna
you're gonna get it suiture probably or or glued. You're
gonna put a nice hagg you're on. You're trying to
do a wrestling head wrap. Because like so in wrestling,
for example, sometimes we get cut. Now we can't bleed
on the mats, so we you know, we tape ourselves up, right,
That's happened plenty of time. Zaan Rutherford has it every
single literally every turrets.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But but Zay Rufford has it every single tournament. But
he's not getting punched. He's tying up with people head buddy.
People probably in some way get on a wrestling man.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Then uh yeah, but you get head button or you
cant hit some one's knee or hip or whatever. So
I don't think he'll have to change his training all
that much. He'll get it suiture, he'll tape it up nice.
He'll probably put it a nice padded head gear over
that he'll probably maybe not spar for I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's that, but that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
You got a spar but not that long.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You have to be sparked, especially to fight a guy
like Sean o'valley, you gotta be sparn man.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
He's gonna think he's just taking a handful of days off.
It's not all he's done sparing forever.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I bet he'll be off with that cut, so not
otherwise it'll just keep opening. Yeah, if the head gear,
it'll open every time.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I think if you if you give it a handful of.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Days, you you know, you get obviously stitch it and
then you you tape it up and then you put
a head gear on. I think he's gonna be fine
in five to seven days. And you know you're obviously
you know. And I even say this to all my guys.
I always say to everyone I ever advise on fighting,
is that your job is not to train. Your job
is to get in the cage and fight. And so
prior to for the two or three or four weeks
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you don't go. Then them dummies, you know, the guys
that Jim who are wild and you can't trust them, Daniel,
You don't. You don't touch the you stay away from them.
You can fight them if you like fighting, you can
fight them when you get downe with your fights. But
before your fight, you train with the guys who are
under control, who know what they're doing, and who probably
are not going to hurt you. So that's you's got.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Him, Morob said. Morob showed the cut, Dana goes crazy,
Shanna Valley goes this little fucking rat. Better not pull out.
It seems like Morob duallas vially is a bad matchup
for Sean o'valley, right? Does that feel like a fair
statement to you?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I don't think Moron had any intention pulling out whatsoever.
He probably thought the same thing as I did. Not
really a big deal. I'm gonna get stitched up. I'm
gonna sit out for a few days, just do cardio training,
and then I'm gonna hop back in and it's not
really a big deal.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's probably why he posted it like I I got
a cut, whatever, it shows I'm training hard. Did you
see Morob duallas vially at the.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Uh jump the fence? So funny?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
What's going on with fighters nowadays? Where these fans they
talk trash and the fighters just go to kill them, Like,
what is happening here?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
La? Have you ever done that? No?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Do you like it?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean most of you. It's gotta ignor him because
you can't actually kill them, because you actually killed them.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
The niggas see your.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Rob pull them hair, pull his hair a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
That's good. You could do that, you know what. I'll
tell you what I do. Uh, these high school kids,
you're like me.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You beat kids?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, you throw them on the ground. They come up
to you say something crazy. I'm like, all right, so
you don't give a boom college. I snapped down and
like send them, you know, like they don't.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They all try to challenge you, don't they crazy?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'll put you down. I will put you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
All want to challenges you know, I'm walking around turner,
but they just want to challenge.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, Like, no, I don't want to fight, but you've
got to throw them on the ground.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And you know, you know it's funny. Yeah what the
boss is and there.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So. But Nata was really bad about that one. He
is really bad about that.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I don't I don't. I don't get that. Maybe you know.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I mean, I guess if I had had to think
of what could data's angle be, and this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Is go back to quiet. I think his angles keep
it quiet. It is well like, don't tell nobody.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
What if he's I mean, he obviously doesn't want to
lose that fight because he spends so much money on
this year, you know, so he's like, what if what
if the commission says something? Because back to your point,
these commissions the government entities. And so we really need
Trump to win because Elon Musk's got charge. He'd be
charge of the Government Efficiency Commission, and he's gonna cut
all the rockets and bullshit because they've got all these
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rules that are waste our time and our money. They're
trying to you know, they're taking all your money. This
is why you gotta look up so early, because they're
detecting you. They're taking all all of it the government
because you live at California, which is a bad choice. Okay,
So if we can cut a lot of these government
officials who aren't really doing anything, then we'll be a
lot better off. And then Dana White won't have to
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worry as much about the commission canceling the fight.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Dude, It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
The whole thing. The whole world of MMA is crazy
right now, and uh I love it. Ben really fast
before I let you go. Okay, the Lil Roald Tree
versus Alex.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Perrera, I thought it was a I don't say smart move.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
It was unexpected if you and it's it's puzzling if
you look at the rankings because around Tree has I
had to go look to make sure.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
A five or row.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But his best win is number twelve, which they usually aren't.
They're not giving a title shot with that. I see
it as he if there's a good matchup for Prayer
to make a highlight reel, it's it's him. He's probably
not well, he's not He's not gonna try wrestle him,
so you're gonna have something.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
He's never shot a takedown on his UFC. He's not
gonna start with Alex.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And yeah, I don't think he's gonna shoot, and I
think Prayer is gonna be better than him, and he's probably
gonna put him down. Uh, that would be my best
guess as to what happens. And so you know, Peira
has been the opposite of John Jones and Steepe. Where
he is I mean, he probably fought twelve times since
Steepe fought. I would guess it's it's gotta be some
crazy numbers.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Got twelve fights in his career.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And they probably all since I'm gonna go, look, give me,
give me ten seconds, all right, since uh March of Okay.
So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
nine fights in steepey fault last.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
That's a lot of fights, bro. So yeah, they're gonna
keep rolling them out here.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I mean, he's smart. I actually don't know why. I
don't know why more fighters don't do this. This could
maybe and you know, obviously he didn't fight a lot
of mixed mar shorts in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
This maybe he's feeling fresh.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But you get paid when you fight, right, and so
if you just keep knocking it out getting these I'm
sure he's getting really really nice paychecks. Like, keep keep
crushing dudes, getting big paychecks. Cool, keep putting me in there,
and I'll keep getting.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Paid, especially if you're getting matchups you feel are favorable
and when people look at it, they go, well.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
This doesn't make sense. Hell.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
The former champion Jamal Hill said, I can't believe what
I just saw announced. So a guy pulls out of
a fight because of a failed drug test for a
manned substance, he gets for warded with a title shot.
It makes the rankings look completely pointless.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, well, Roun Tree is eight, and to Jamel Hill's point,
he did fail a drug test.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was weird.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I looked that up and he got suspended like two
months or three months, and it appeared to be it
did not appear that he was like attainted substance type thing.
So I don't know why his I really don't know
why his time was so short on the suspension.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
That was weird.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, Jamal, I don't know if maybe Jamal wanted to
fight him. Maybe Jamal wanted to fight him, because yeah,
because Jamal lost the fight to Alex last I believe, Yeah,
So I don't think he's fought since, so I don't
know if he thinks that he was going to get
a title quite But I just don't know. I mean,
Uncle Liath seems so obvious a choice, but not really
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the choice because I wouldn't put him in there with
Alex right now. Honestly, Perera is actually selling pay per
views and he's making money or you as a company.
I don't know if Uncle Liave can do that right now,
because this.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Is but this is where, this is where, this.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is what we you get the best two guys in
the world. Same thing, he said, But Ben, here, here's
a really fast Uh. I don't know, because you know,
in some cases, if you beat Connor McGregor, you become
a pay per view attraction. If you beat certain guys,
you kind of take their shine and you become that attraction.
(26:51):
I don't know if if you beat Pereira you become
that attraction. I don't know. I think he is the attraction,
but I don't know just by beating him, if he's
a big enough star yet to elevate the next guy
to the point that they're selling a whole bunch bigger.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Is on Caliab hurt.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, he's fighting un Calia's fighting, Uncliab is fighting rockets.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Okay, I mean so yeah, and it's kind of soon.
Is October twenty.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Fighting in October? And then Perrera is fighting in October?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Well is that the same card? Are they on the
same card?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So Perrera's fighting in October in Utah, Clia's fighting in October, and.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh yeah that card is good too. That card is fired.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I mean that is gonna be so much fun to
Puria Halloway gone versus Bolkov with vers Tamaya. Tamayov actually
makes the fight on Calliver's rackiic uh Dosagno's versus Jeff Neil, Like, definitely,
that car's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
The fights are gonna be crazy. Yeah, we'll get it
to that next time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You know, man Bro, enjoy your disc golf this morning,
early morning, but gonna be fun day because your boys
going to the golf course too, but not this golf,
actual golf. Hey, wait, we haven't talked. We haven't talked
much recently. So congratulations on your award. Been got the
National Development Coach of the Year for USA. Russell, congratulations,
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my guy. And next week, I don't care that it's
a little dated, we have to talk about the United
States Olympic team because what the hell happened?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I don't think it's that terrible, but so let's let's
debate that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, please, I want to know what happened. Hey, it's
suppo to be the greatest Olympic team of all time.
Instead they look like US in two thousand and eight,
which was not good. They did they got way boarded us,
so all right, we'll talk about next week. All right,
guys from ben Aster, I'm Daniel Cormier. We'll catch you
(28:46):
on the next week, please