August 26, 2024 • 41 mins
With Colin out LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn & Jonas Knox fill in reacting to the kickoff of the college football season with Georgia Tech's shocking upset of #10 Florida State
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Un projeck, it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We'll scare this audience. I two pros and a cup
of Joe. Filling in for Colin.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It is Levi Arrington, Brady Twinn, Jonas Knox with you,
taking you all the way up until noon Pacific time,
three o'clock Eastern time on a Monday morning, and a
Monday morning after the first edition of College Football for
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Four, I lived up to its expectation.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man, tell you that all those disrespectful people that we've
talked about on our show, the best physician is.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Not did How about that dude linebacker is alive?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Baby bounce back Week zero divers big day for the underdogs,
and it all started in Dublin, Ireland. Well, yeah, you
didn't get the Notre Dame fan base there Brady Quinn.
But you did actually get a good game, unlike that
beating that Notre Dame gave to Navy last year.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it was a good game, a little unexpected, I
think for a lot of Florida State fans that flew
across the pond Ford. I have a number of friends
who went down for it, and I have to tell
you I don't feel that bad. And when it was
all said that, I think they had a fun trip
minus the game. But as we talked about, I mean
it was it couldn't have gone off to a better start.
I think as far as a top ten ranked team
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in preseason rankings. This is one of the reasons why
preseason rankings are so irrelevant in my mind, because we
honestly have no idea what these teams are going to be.
I mean, the storylines that we heard about Florida State were, well,
this is redemption, right. This is all because of what
happened to them last season getting left out of the
playoff and all the opt out players. Know, you can't
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count the Bowl game versus Georgia that wiped the floor
with them. No, this is about redemption for Florida State.
I even saw people tweeting that after that first drive
when they go up eight, nothing in the game, only
come to find out that, yeah, maybe you lost a
lot of pieces from last year. Maybe it's actually been
There's only been one quarterback, one quarterback in the past
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decade that's been able to win a national championship that
was a transfer quarterback. I'm not saying that transfer quarterbacks
don't help potentially improve your program, but the reality is
it took Joe Burrow into his second year at LSU
for him to be able to win a national championship,
and he's the only one that was a transfer quarterback.
So we get all you bought into the hype because
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the transfer portal and all this stuff going on. The
reality is the game still won. In the trenches. Georgia
Tech ran the heck out of the foot ball and
even though they were the undersized team, they came out
on top and the end it was it was a
fun game to watch. I found it thrilling, even though
I'm sure there's a lot of Florida State fans who
are should be upset about it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So I love rankings though I love rankings because I
go into the game looking at Florida State, and I
say to myself, this is a top ten rated team.
This should be a fun game for Florida State to
show off their wares, to show off their high price
free agent. I mean, they're transfer quarterback. My bed shouts
out to DJ who can't throw further than five yards accurately.
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But what it is, all I'm saying is I thought
it was like, Okay, here we go. They're showing the
pre hype of of the Florida State players doing their
river dances and all kinds of stuff. I don't even
know if the river dance comes from Ireland and Dublin,
I would assume it comes from it. Okay, well, and
then they were on point. Then the bottom line is
they didn't bring that river dance to the to the
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football field. And yeah, that man right there, number forty four,
the middle line. You want to talk about a linebacker
and show it taking advantage of his opportunity of being
in front of the big stage.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Guy my man was playing he.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Looked like a linebacker, Yes he did, and he played
like a linebacker.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
He did say, you know what, I knew there was
going to be a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
We were doing up one game when the show came
on and I was panding it off to mister Jonas knops. Yeah,
I was handed it off to Jonas, And I meant
to get you on the show this weekend too. We
had some great quarterback conversations. Got to revisit on with you, Q.
But I'll tell you what. We're watching the game, and
I'm like, I don't think that they're intimidating Georgia Tech enough.
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And yes, they scored pretty quickly, they got it downfield,
they ran it in, but Georgia Tech was able to
answer it, and then it becomes a defensive struggle. What
I took away from the game is like they allowed
Georgia Tech to be close for too long, and they
started gaining some confidence. They started making some plays that
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gave them more confidence, and then it turned into, wait,
we're still in it too, we can beat these dudes.
Then it turned into y'all some trash. Y'all ain't even
supposed to be out here with the with the yellowjackings.
Y'all not even supposed to be out here with Georgia Tech.
We own Dublin. And to me, that's why I love
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college football, and that's why I love rankings. The reason
why I think they are are what they are. Yes,
they're overrated, Yes we're right. We don't know what type
of team we're getting until they start playing one hundred.
But the fact that we put these expectations on these
programs and they have to go out there and they
have to perform with them, and you play a team
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that's actually a pretty pretty good team. I mean, Georgia
Tech is not a slippy team. It's a major it's
a major conference team.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And you gotta go out there.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
You gotta beat them, You gotta play, You gotta beat them.
No weeks off, No oh, you'll still make the playoffs
at the early parts of the year, don't matter.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Just keep playing.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Now, you gotta go out there and play or somebody's
gonna clip you. And now every other team that's ranked
and rated has to go into their first week of
games knowing, knowing that the expectations of what they carry,
what they're ranking, is now on the line. It's not
a given. It's not a given you're gonna go out
there and beat a team that's unranked.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So you better.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You better get your head where it's supposed to be,
think about it the right way and approach the game
the right way, and you better play otherwise you're gonna
have forty four and company coming into your house taking
your can, taking your taking taking a kool Aid out
of your.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Refrigerator, and you don't want that. I mean, why doesn't
it happen more? You know, like because we've talked about
it before to where you don't get a preseason, so
you just roll out what you got and if if
teams are a little sluggish or maybe you're not as
it's like you end up. That's why when when somebody
plays a Alabama plays a Wafford or somebody like that
to open up the air, I'm never critical of it
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because I always think, dude, they don't get a preseason.
And like Marvin Harrison Junior said this recently. He was like, yeah,
I wish we had like maybe a preseason game in
college football like we have in the NFL, so we
can gear up for the year. Because now you look
at it and you go, so Florida State might have
just if they had national championship hopes, like, yeah, the
expansion of the playoff is going to help, but like
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they can't afford to lose the rest of the way. Really,
I mean, like that's a problem for them for the university.
And on the flip side of that, if Georgia Tech
is all high and mighty on this win and Florida
State goes out and lose through three or four games,
this win against a quote unquote top ten team at
the time, it isn't going to amount to much at
the end of the things because we're going to look
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at it and go, yeah, but that team turned out
to be not very good. So you're just basing it
off of we assume this team is going to be good.
There's a ten next to their name, and that's where
we're at at this point in time. The assumption is
based on what they do in recruiting. I mean, that's
what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
If you look at preseason rankings on any given year,
it's in essence recruiting rankings. They are stacking up the
teams they feel like are the most talented because we
believe that the most talented teams end up finding a
way to play in the major bowls and for a
national championship. So that's really what it comes down to.
(08:20):
And as you know, we've kind of touched on like
dju Ungla he comes in as the transfer quarterback. It's
his third school, you know. And I think you have
to pause now too, because the bigger picture discussion is this.
If you have a transfer quarterback and that head coach
went somewhere else and he didn't bring that quarterback with him,
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isn't that a red flag? Isn't that telling you something?
Jonathan Smith is now in Michigan State and Aiden Childs
followed with him from Oregon State. My imagination leads me
to think, like the quarterback with you, well know that
he didn't want ju unless I don't want you exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Absolutely, So I think there's cause for concern for a
lot of programs out there where you find a program
that didn't want to bring their quarterback and then trying
to find the rationale behind it, because clearly Michigan State
needed a quarterback, but Jonathan Smith didn't choose to take
that Oregon State quarterback. He chose to take Aiden Chiles.
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So that was the first thing too that I think
bigger picture discussion was brought to the forefront of my
mind of like, well, let's just look at the stats too,
and I'll reiterate what I said a moment ago in
the past decade, there hasn't been a national championship won
by a transfer quarterback with the exception of LSU and
Joe Burrow, and it took him into his second year.
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So when you look at some of the programs that
are looking at bringing in transfer quarterbacks in their final
year of eligibility, I look at it and that's why
I've said I think George is the favorite. Carson Beck
was a kid they recruited. He's come up through their program.
He understands the expectations of Kirby Smart and Georgia, and
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he's been there the entire time building for this moment.
You know, you look at Ohio State with Will Howard
with Dylan Gabriel be they might be tough to beat,
but they both have quarterbacks that didn't choose to initially
go there. Dylan Gabriel's on his third school went to
UCF originally, then Oklahoma, not Oregon. It's tough to be
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able to develop chemistry, to know the offense like the
back of your hand, like you would if you had
been in the program for three or four years. That's
difficult to do. It's difficult to throw at anticipation. It's
difficult to understand the body language of guys running in
out of cuts or when things break down, being able
to look for that guy. I know this guy. I mean,
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when I was in college on a kid, a guy
named Jef Samarge had Marie Stovod Raymon McKnight. I knew
because I'd thrown with them so much what they were
going to do, even when they had their back turn
to me. I knew which way they were going to
try and anticipate all of that because I could read
their body language. It's hard to do that in college,
especially because think about it, I mean, you're limited in
with what you can do because of the hours you're
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allowed to have organized based on the NCAA rules. It
isn't like the pros where you can go ahead and
get together and go go on a vacation of your
downtime and all that stuff, and you're working twenty four
to seven anyway, pre practice, post practice, during practice, you know,
special teams, drills, you're with your wide receivers over there looking.
It's not like that you don't have as much practice time.
So I keep kind of going back to that too,
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when you look at the teams that I feel like
have consistency a lot. Oftentimes it's because they've got those
guys who they're rolling in that have been through their program.
And Tom Brady talked about this too, about how now
there's college football teams, they're not programs anymore. They're teams.
I mean, you're kind of signing up to go play
for that team in that year. Whereas a program, you're
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getting there and you're being developed, Like you go in
through it your freshman year and you're kind of putting
on muscle mass, you're getting stronger, you're learning the offense,
you're learning what it means to be a student athlete
at that university. Like all that stuff has gone out
the window now. And I think that's one of the
reasons too, why you see these inconsistencies for players who
are really experienced, or when you go over to Ireland,
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you're like, well, that's not that big of a deal.
Florida State, it's more talented team didn't work out that day.
So I just think it's kind of beware as we
head into Week one of college football, beware for a
lot of those underdogs, because I think there's a number
of teams that like the margin of difference isn't as
big as maybe Vegas things or or I should say,
our friends out West.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It still should be talent that wins out. I just
I don't I'm not exactly sure why FSU came up
short against Georgia Tech. But when you think about those
teams like a Georgia or an organ or an Alabama
or in Ohio State, they stockpile talent. And I think
one of the biggest things that college sports is going
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to have to adjust to in the football rom and
probably another sports as well, is not not being able
to have the stock pal of talent two and three
two and three positions deep. I feel like you can
always look out of Georgia or an Alabama or in
Ohio State. You can always look at those schools and
say that they're going to be a team that contends
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for a national title, because if somebody goes down, there's
not only one player that's ready to step up, there's
two players. I mean, at one point, think about your
boy two of steps in at halftime, at halftime and
wins the national title at halftime, and I know he's there,
and I get all of the things that you're saying,
and there are definitely points well taken, but I still
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think that college football has always been about stock pialing
talent and enough talent where it can carry you through
an entire season to the playoffs, to the championship round
of games.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's that's how I look at it.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
So to me, I looked at Florida State, and I
came away from that game saying, you're not as talented
as they thought you were. You're not as good a
team as the country thought you were. Or it's just
too early and that chemistry or that that continuity just
hasn't taken shape yet. And you know what, unfortunate for you,
fortunate for Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech takes advantage of a
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big stage, puts their name out there. Florida State has
has an aUI the first week out.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean, based on what we've seen so far, four
games into the college football season, it does feel like,
you know, we're gonna see a lot of happy fans
in Morgantown this weekend, and it does you know, if
we're just looking at, uh, looking at how this all well.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean, I'll say it's going to be a challenge.
They have a good quarterback in West Virginia. We have
two new coordinators, So you want to talk about continuity,
talk about getting continuity between coach and play.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They playing Penn State. I don't even know. That's good,
That's all good.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I'm underplay it though. I'm a downplay it. I'm a
downplay it because I think our defense is going to
come out and do what it needs to do. And
I honestly, I think the maturity of Alor and then
the maturity and and the look of our backfield, I
think we're going to surprise people in the passing game,
and I think we're going to be who people thought
we were in a running game. So I'm confident.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I would say the one thing that always stands out,
and I think this is every coach's concern, was when
you go back and watch that game, but really any
of the other college football games that you saw, and going
back to the initial point of there are no preseason games,
right so you don't really have that warm up of hey,
we're full go like this, you got to tackle them
to the ground, right Like. Oftentimes there's limitations to how
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the offensive line and d lines are preparing, how guys
are hitting when they're actually trying to get dives down
to the ground when they're out in space. All that
was to me on display, you know, sloppy, poor tackling
penalties at times. I mean, there's there's those things that
you just can't prepare for until you get out there
and you actually start playing in a real live game scenario.
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And I thought that was one of the things that
stood in the way for Florida State. I thought Georgia
Tech played a bit of a cleaner game as far
as you know, miscues and tackling in general, and just
better play up front. But I think that's the concern
for any you know, favorite going in like a Penn
State for example, which was a double digit favorite. Now
I think they're hovering around about eight points or so
eight and a half, depend on the book. But the
general point is that's that's every coach is concerned. That's
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James Franklin's concern, that's Neil Brown's concern, that's every single
head coach is concerned with that first game of the
season is just trying to play a clean game. I
mean where you're not missing a bunch of tackles or
missing blocks and missing assignments all those things. So I
thought that was one of the things that stood out
to me as well. If you're looking at a reason
for shocking up out Florida State, you ended up losing
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that game. That was another reason. I think you can
tally up there, which again is a concern for everyone
in college football. Think it's a dope point.
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
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Speaker 3 (17:41):
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Speaker 4 (17:46):
For Colin win anywhere God.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In about twenty minutes from now on the headline News,
you're going to hear maybe the most confident person in
the NFL. But should he be We will break down
his comments coming up here in about twenty minutes from
now here to radio, though, Joonas not no, no, that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Kays are so safe.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Hey, shoot, we would saying before the show started, right,
Jonas has this verbal Kemp movement with us on the
radio and with his his audience. But then when he
leaves the studio, you know, he does his walk out
to his truck, gets into the truck, drives his car
around the corner, puts it in the parking space that
(18:30):
he has reserve forest truck, jumps in the back of
his Maybat with his driver, crosses his leg, lights up
a stogy, and hits to his mansion in thousand notes.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, that's a good point. I like this version of Jonas.
I don't know how real it is, but I would
love to see this. Yeah, I'm telling you, he's Kaiser
so safe. So I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I get far enough away out of the parking lot.
My list gone, everything is got thrown a lung.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Darn. Yeah, I'm just in my tell my driver you
know where to go? Angs grow out.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, man, man, it's all good man.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I appreciate the fact that we get to work with y'all. Yeah,
I get to work with you both.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You know, we got one going on prime time television
with with with Fox his weekend where where my nitny
Lions are going to be playing?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And then I got Kyser Soul safe.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It was It was interesting. Brady did make a change
to his ex profile where it says the face of
Big New Care.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean why not, why not ever have done anything
like that? Didn't do that?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I mean, why not own it? Somebody? Somebody needed to
do it. Somebody needs to get a hold of your
your account right right now.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You know what I need right now, coming off of
this weekend, based on our text conversation last twenty four hours,
I need an update from Lee as to his fantasy draft.
But just an overall wellness check on Lee.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
He looked good man right my wheelhouse, baby, Yeah, he
looked good. A few exture hours of sleep. Look, it
looked like as long as he has that recovery time. See,
we don't get the recovery time usually because it's too
it's two damn early.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But Lee as his fantas.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
So for people that are aret familiar, Lee to Lap
is the executive producer of our show, and he lives
life hard. And Lee had his fantasy draft yesterday and
we asked him like, hey, how's it going, and he said, oh,
I got my wits about me. I'm on my way over.
And you would think, all right, he's got his research,
he's got his pamphlet, he's got you know, his draft
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rankings and all that. Now Lee was walking in with
an eighteen rack of beer and tequila shots that were
waiting for him and gold handle and you said, you said,
what was your What were you doing an hour yesterday?
Two and two to two beers? Two shots? Yeah, all right,
fair enough, Yeah, beer at a shot per pick, and
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you drafted somebody that had already gotten drafted.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
That I did do that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
DJ war right before me.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Took a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
So somebody's somebody literally said DJ Moore right before you.
And then I took a long time, and then you
drafted Dj Moore again.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, they let me.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
That was the AI for the rest of the draft.
They got Patrick Mahomes out of it. I think I
think did good.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, all right, sounds like.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
But he sounds by the way, listen to him quiet sound.
I mean, he looks good, he sounds good. He's even
dressed up good. He hasn't laughed or smiled too much
to dammy, all systems got all systems go, all systems go.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
No malfunction, now malfunction, malfunction, no malfunction on a Monday
for Lee to laugh.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
If we could just keep.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That room from getting dust cropted by you know, the
dust cropping crew, you know that's in there, we should
be good.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, Greg too. You just can't trust the guy. It's
the problem that really is the problem. It was the
beard that gave it away from me. When I'm bro
my bro be dropping bombs bomb Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it seems like it. Yeah, well, we do have ourselves
a situation. There's a couple of teams that are waiting
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to figure out what they're playing as a quarterback. One
of those could be the New England Patriots, who are
going to make a decision very soon because they've got
Jacoby Brissett the backup there or the veteran there, they've
got Drake May. And Jacoby Brissett suffered a little bit
of a shoulder injury in their preseason game against the Commanders,
and so Drake May went in there played pretty well
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and so well that the head coach Drod Male even
pointed out that he's out playing Jacoby Brissett, but talked
about what's going into their decision.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
It starts in practice and also in the game, where
you know Drake has played better.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Now in saying that, you know everyone.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Wants to know, like who the starter is going to be,
I think there are multiple factors that kind of have
to go into this decision. One is the total body
of work, whether we're talking about the spraying or the
entirety of training camp. And now I'd also say oftentimes
we forget about just the overall experience that a guy
like Jacoby has and which will also be weighted in
the decision that we have to make.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Here in the near future.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So if Drake May has played better, and he also
pointed this out he was on Weei and pointed out
that he's out played Jacoby Brissett. I mean, doesn't stand
the reason that he would be the guys if you
don't make him the starting quarterback. I mean, what are
you saying, like, Jacoby Brissette's got a shoulder injury too. Yeah,
Like so that's why I'm or was this just Belichick left?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's jamesmanship, It's I mean, that's what Drodmeo knows. And
Mike Tomlin's doing the same thing. Russell Wilson gets to
start in the last preseason game and they pull him
before he could do anything good or bad. Even from
that point, if they get a couple of completions of pickens,
that was it. I mean, at this point, I don't
know why, but at the NFL level they do it.
(23:56):
The coaches still do it. They still act like no
one knows who the Week one starter is going to
be or whoever it's going to be. Like, you don't
have a game plan set up for both quarterbacks. This
is the NFL. You have an entire staff that has helped,
you know, to break down Hey, these are the things
that Russell Wilson struggles with. These are the things that
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Justin Fields struggles with. Soever whoever's in the game, they've
got a game plan oriented to that. Am I wrong, LeVar?
I mean like you've got more than enough time to
prepare for your Week one matchup. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And listen, my first takeaway is we're not going to
name a starter because we don't want you to have
the time to prepare for who's going to play. And
I would imagine unless you plan on playing that game
all season long, which you could possibly do with in
New England or in Pittsburgh, But unless you're planning on
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doing that game all year long, this is the one
time where I'd say you can do it and use
it effectively, you know, in terms of going what till Thursday,
maybe maybe Friday, I don't know, but I think you
could try to toe the line and play a game
of chicken with this one in terms of who you're
going to play, just so you kind of give a team,
(25:10):
you know, their defensive side of the ball something to
you know, it's better to prepare for one and assume
that if he goes down, this is what we have
to deal with with the backup. But it's a totally
different way of preparing as a defense, especially if the
two players have two different ways of playing, two different styles.
(25:30):
If one's more mobile than the other, whatever it maybe
one might be more of a pocket passer than the
other one. It's a little bit more difficult for defense
to settle in and prepare for the guy that they're
going to go up against. So if I'm Mayo, I
drag it out as long as I can, for at
least the first week.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I mean, if he does announce Jacoby Brissett the starter,
I mean, is that an indication that he realizes this
team stinks. We can't keep Drake may healthy, so it
may as well just send you Kobe out there.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like, I don't think that's the message to me. Like
Jakobe is the one.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
That's hurt that they can't keep Kobe. Throw him out
there in a sling, all right. You don't want to
cost this kid his career. Like, you know, you can
game plan around that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Man. I mean at some point too, as a player,
you got to protect yourself. I mean we see this
all the time. We always talk about, well, well, they're
gonna play them when when the guy's ready. No they're not.
They're gonna play them when they feel like they want
to put him in, play them and see what they
have in the guy, because ultimately, you never know the
guy's ready until he gets in the game, and any
showcases whether or not he is.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
They are going to be brutal this year. I'm sorry, man,
I don't have no hope, No, not at all. I
think they're gonna be the worst team in the league.
I'll say that right now. And by the way, for
anybody that wants to say, what about Carolina, do you
see Bryce Young slinging it around out there? It's a
brand new player. If Drake May comes out and starts
slinging it. Yeah, there's always that's the beauty of sport.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
There's always the chance that a number ten can get
knocked off by unrankeding.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
There's also, uh, you know, cut down day in the NFL. Yeah,
today's today's the day. Man kind of say it. That
sucks the end of the roads.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Although we come to the end of this wild still
like go it's I don't belong to them.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh no, they don't belong to me. Now, trash back
your trash bay.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
That's you're going away present, take yours and put it
in the trashy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Although in their defense, it is one of those heavy
duty ones, like the ones that can really handle a
lot of weight. Now one of these cheap ones that
like rips and terrors because they don't want to have
to deal with that mess in the parking lot as
you leave. So it's it's definitely the heavy duty, thicker, uh,
the thicker black ones that you get usually when you're
like on a construction side of throwing stuff off.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yea, So now one of those ninety nine cent store
bags that you get that thick, strong black So here's
but like, what are these guys too? What are these
I wouldn't know what are these guys? All?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Right? So extra heavy duty. So it's over.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And you know, Brady kind of made the point we
were talking about it in the notes back and forth,
like hey, you know, like this really is the end,
Like they're never going to play ever again. It's probably
something they've been doing since here, what nine ten years old,
and it's just six seven, I mean even younger, and
it's just over. So now what do you do? You
get the whole rest of your day and life ahead
of you and you got a trash bag with all
(28:45):
your stuff in it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
That's not I mean, it's a very stressful time.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Do you just go start drinking immediately, Like you don't
go to a canteena somewhere and just start throwing back.
I got, why can't you don't, I respond, because I'm
more familiar with those than I am. Irish bars to
be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I mean, the reality is, I would say for about
of those that get cut. And by the way, this
isn't like the final cut. It is, but like you're
not safe ever on an NFL roster till week one,
like the day of the game week one, and there's
all sorts of they'll still get rid of you. Well
they still can, but like as a veteran, they can
(29:25):
cut you and then that way they don't have to
guarantee your salary for the rest of the season. There's
all sorts of different rules and stipulations within the collective
bargaining agreement. So that's like a little unknown thing that
flies under the radar, but that's very much in play.
So like I remember guys who you'd come into the
weight room for like your you know, morning lift, and
they'd be all happy and whatnot, and then you'd see
(29:47):
someone walk in and be like, you know, so and
so you know, bring a playbook, um see coach, and
it's like no one's safe, Like you're kind of walking
on eggshells for some of those guys who are on
the back end of the roster who maybe will still
get cut. And reason is you've got a Brandon I you,
Trent Williams. Situations like that that make it more complicated
because you don't know how long they're gonna hold out.
(30:08):
I mean, they can hold out into the season. And
if they do, are you gonna I mean, you're gonna
keep on the roster? Right? Why don't they decide to
come back week two and three? Right? So there's all
sorts of considerations like that that these teams have to
factor in. And on top of it, you know, you've
got guys who will get cut, like we talked about,
will never play again. They're probably getting into coaching, maybe scouting,
(30:31):
or maybe they just move on. Maybe they're going to
something completely different that they studied during their time in college.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Lebar, You've never been cut happier? Yes, I have?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When football wise, Yeah, I was. I was released from
the Commanders my last year there. I mean it was
it was a mutual deal. I mean I gave money
back in order to buy my freedom. But nonetheless, I
mean that's still considered to be fired. Yeah, but not
like this though, where they trash bag. It's kind of
(30:58):
worse because they were trying to hold me. They were
planning on holding me up until my roster bonus kicked in,
and probably cutting me the day before my roster bones What.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Did what did Dan Snyder give you?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like some store brand zip lock bag for the freezer
and whatever you can fit in with you.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't like the flex, I don't. I don't like
the flex at all. But I just never went back.
I learned a lot from Coach prime Man. I never
like what was ever in my locker you got? Because
I didn't have anything personal in there anyway. It's not
like I had to go back for family photos or
anything like that. Some guys do though, oh yeah, oh yeah.
(31:37):
And it's like I probably saw the handwriting on the wall.
So my last year there, there were there were no
personal items in my locker where I've been like, I
gotta go back and get it, Like when I was done,
I was done.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
They would put their girlfriend up there or something like, well,
there would have been a girlfriend they could have had
that too, you know. I know, but that's just a
bad because because I mean, as the locker walking by, and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
And and if they see them at the post game,
tell me, you know, they might say, hell long.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
So if they put a picture of their girlfriend up,
sometimes the picture of their wife back, where were the
picture of their wife being?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And they're probably in their wallet? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Well, I'm just trying to get a sense of this.
I've never been in an NFL locker room, so I'm
just trying to get a sensible.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I don't know of any of those people that you
speak of, but I'm just saying, if that were to
be the situation where you had a girlfriend that was
actually looking good enough to put up in the locker
and a wife that was good enough to be in
your wallet, probably in your wallet. You know. I'm just
speaking on in terms of what it possibly could be
if that's what it was, you know what I mean
(32:41):
with you, I don't know, shots out all the wives.
I hold it down though. I mean, while the girlfriend
gets all the props in the locker, I mean, everybody
got to know to play their role. I mean, this
is professional sports we're talking about. It's true, man, that's
a bit, y'all, that's a bit. Don't y'all hate me
out there. I was just joking. It was just jokes.
Here's what not a joke?
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Speaker 4 (34:56):
Ryan Music. Yeah, Jonas knocks ready Quinn. Yeah, all right,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Jerry Jones the gift that keeps on giving, that's right.
Talking to longtime Cowboys reporter Clarence Hill Junior, he discussed
some of the criticisms he receives for being the Cowboys GM.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Here's what Jerry had to say.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Quote, I've done it all, so I have an ordinate
amount of confidence that blank, if anybody can figure out
how to get this blank done, I can figure out
how to get it done. So hell no, there's nobody
that could blanking come in here and do all the
contracts and be a GM any better than I can. Plus,
(35:38):
I'm where the buck stops, so when it blanks up,
I got to cover it.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Oh man, Well, I mean he's making some valid points there,
just not all the.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Way, Valley Jerry, Jerry hit up a watering hole and
ox now yeah, let it go.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
So he's also not really doing any of the contracts.
So I would argue I could do that. I mean
I could. I could have the title and not do anything.
I could do that too. You know, maybe you should
be out for the job. Hey, it don't look good.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
D real well, taking a little while and to get
take it a little while for him to do what
it is that he said he's gonna get done.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I just want the CD LAMB hold out to last
into the season.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
So well, Todd doesn't want that, not after he took
all that time to draw up, draw up the LAMB
and put the CD initials up.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
There for a time.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Football shots out the all the fantasy football players out there. Yeah,
hope you got your roster together.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, I think all right, if you had to bet
right now, does the Ceedee Lamb contract get done before
the season, I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Gonna say no.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I just think he wants as much, if not more
than Justin Jefferson, and I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
So i' musa say no. Yeah, I'm gonna go no,
not by the start of the regular season. I'm struggling
with this one because I think he is the best
case of anyone to get it done outside of I
guess I you, But there could be a trade, and
who knows if that happens, how that impacts getting the
deal done. And even then though Ceedee Lambs had better numbers.
(37:13):
So I'm gonna say, for his sake, I hope it happens.
I hope Jerry Jones gets this deal done.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And the final note on that one was after the
final preseason game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'm still good, is bleep.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Jerry Jones was asked about it and he said, no update,
and I'm only talking about players that are currently here.
So now, he did make it a point to say
last week that Trey Lance is making the roster, like
he wanted to make that clear to everybody that.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Trey Lance is making. It'd be a good thing.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I think if he had his drouthers, Trey Lance would
have did so well in preseason that it positions him
to actually tell Dak that you can either take what
we give you or kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
We got your replacement.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now, the way you said that, like you make it
seem like Trey Lance didn't do well in the preseason,
I mean I think he did. And as as I
said five interceptions, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I don't think he did bad.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I mean, I know that's an exorbitant amount of interceptions in.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
All right.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I mean when you're when your TD ratio to I
in TS is one to five, I mean, is.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That there's no justifying getting rid of that.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I'll say that, yeah, we'll stay in the NFC East.
The preseason has come to a close.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
That means we can officially say not a single projected
starter on offense for the Eagles played a single snap.
Here's what their head coach Nick Sirianni had to say
about that decision. I felt like we got enough work in,
we're ready to go, and we're comfortable with where we are.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Like what I said, I totally agree, get your work
done in practice. Get your work done in practice, and
for what it's worth, if you are going to have
a preseason I get it. Like it's been discussed on
our show. Give the other guys an opportunity to try
to make the roster or make another roster.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I get it. I just don't think you need three
games to do it. But good for college. College doesn't
need any apparently, so there's that well Florida State. I
don't know why people would have an issue with this.
I mean, imagine losing one of your starters in a
preseason game. And you're the Eagles, a team that should
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win the nfcas should make a playoff run, potentially a
super Bowl run, especially as stacked as that roster is,
So why would you put any of that at risk
by playing in a preseason game that's not gonna matter
at all. We're talking preseason division standings and all that exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Now not happen in Philly. We're talking preseason. We're not
talking regular season. We're talking preseason, preseason.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
If you're an Eagles fan, didn't you maybe want to
see because like the Chiefs gave Patrick Mahomes a little
bit of a run.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Throw behind his back and get excited at.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
The end of last season, you bring in Kellen Moore,
did you not want to see at least one drive
of what this could look like to start the regular
I bet.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
You Philadelphia Eagles fans, if the Eagles start off slow,
are going to reference back to this not being a
preseason that they took advantage of, and then Nick Sirianni's
going to have to explain it. I bet you that's
what's going to happen. Well, it's just a rational fan base,
so they want to win. Yeah, Pennsylvanias don't like losing.
They don't take the losing kindly. No, No, especially to Ohio.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
We'll wrap up with the boy Phidy.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You ever seen the Pirates play? Last note here we
have a reunion in Kansas. City Wide receiver Juju Smith
Schuster back with the Chiefs after the Patriots released him
earlier this month. Last with the Chiefs in twenty twenty two,
they won the Super Bowl and among wide receivers did
lead the team in yards and receptions.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Oh that could be dangerous, man. That's interesting. Sneaky grab
Like I thought they were pretty stat I mean, is it?
I mean, maybe more of a current. We're concerned with
Racy Rice off the field. They do have Hollywood Brown,
even though he's battled injuries so far. Exave, you're worthy,
you drafted, You've got Kelsey, and they've got some other
receivers too. I mean, maybe they're just able to load up.
(41:19):
That's how it works. But kind of interesting that he
would find his way back there. I understand the desire
because he's going to be in contention for a Super Bowl. Yeah,
but from the chief standpoint, I mean, I guess that's
the system. Possession makes sense.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
But yeah, I would say possession receiver like you like
a backup, like a backup QB, Like throw me in
when you need me.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'm here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Do you still do TikTok dances or I don't know,
not anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I don't know. It's unfortunate and these might be getting bad. Damn,
maybe it's hamstring.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
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Speaker 4 (00:51):
Four, I lived up to its expectation.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man, tell you that all those disrespectful people that we've
talked about on our show, the best physician is.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Not did How about that dude linebacker is alive?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Baby bounce back Week zero divers big day for the underdogs,
and it all started in Dublin, Ireland. Well, yeah, you
didn't get the Notre Dame fan base there Brady Quinn.
But you did actually get a good game, unlike that
beating that Notre Dame gave to Navy last year.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it was a good game, a little unexpected, I
think for a lot of Florida State fans that flew
across the pond Ford. I have a number of friends
who went down for it, and I have to tell
you I don't feel that bad. And when it was
all said that, I think they had a fun trip
minus the game. But as we talked about, I mean
it was it couldn't have gone off to a better start.
I think as far as a top ten ranked team
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in preseason rankings. This is one of the reasons why
preseason rankings are so irrelevant in my mind, because we
honestly have no idea what these teams are going to be.
I mean, the storylines that we heard about Florida State were, well,
this is redemption, right. This is all because of what
happened to them last season getting left out of the
playoff and all the opt out players. Know, you can't
(02:06):
count the Bowl game versus Georgia that wiped the floor
with them. No, this is about redemption for Florida State.
I even saw people tweeting that after that first drive
when they go up eight, nothing in the game, only
come to find out that, yeah, maybe you lost a
lot of pieces from last year. Maybe it's actually been
There's only been one quarterback, one quarterback in the past
(02:28):
decade that's been able to win a national championship that
was a transfer quarterback. I'm not saying that transfer quarterbacks
don't help potentially improve your program, but the reality is
it took Joe Burrow into his second year at LSU
for him to be able to win a national championship,
and he's the only one that was a transfer quarterback.
So we get all you bought into the hype because
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the transfer portal and all this stuff going on. The
reality is the game still won. In the trenches. Georgia
Tech ran the heck out of the foot ball and
even though they were the undersized team, they came out
on top and the end it was it was a
fun game to watch. I found it thrilling, even though
I'm sure there's a lot of Florida State fans who
are should be upset about it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So I love rankings though I love rankings because I
go into the game looking at Florida State, and I
say to myself, this is a top ten rated team.
This should be a fun game for Florida State to
show off their wares, to show off their high price
free agent. I mean, they're transfer quarterback. My bed shouts
out to DJ who can't throw further than five yards accurately.
(03:32):
But what it is, all I'm saying is I thought
it was like, Okay, here we go. They're showing the
pre hype of of the Florida State players doing their
river dances and all kinds of stuff. I don't even
know if the river dance comes from Ireland and Dublin,
I would assume it comes from it. Okay, well, and
then they were on point. Then the bottom line is
they didn't bring that river dance to the to the
(03:54):
football field. And yeah, that man right there, number forty four,
the middle line. You want to talk about a linebacker
and show it taking advantage of his opportunity of being
in front of the big stage.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Guy my man was playing he.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Looked like a linebacker, Yes he did, and he played
like a linebacker.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
He did say, you know what, I knew there was
going to be a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
We were doing up one game when the show came
on and I was panding it off to mister Jonas knops. Yeah,
I was handed it off to Jonas, And I meant
to get you on the show this weekend too. We
had some great quarterback conversations. Got to revisit on with you, Q.
But I'll tell you what. We're watching the game, and
I'm like, I don't think that they're intimidating Georgia Tech enough.
(04:37):
And yes, they scored pretty quickly, they got it downfield,
they ran it in, but Georgia Tech was able to
answer it, and then it becomes a defensive struggle. What
I took away from the game is like they allowed
Georgia Tech to be close for too long, and they
started gaining some confidence. They started making some plays that
(04:58):
gave them more confidence, and then it turned into, wait,
we're still in it too, we can beat these dudes.
Then it turned into y'all some trash. Y'all ain't even
supposed to be out here with the with the yellowjackings.
Y'all not even supposed to be out here with Georgia Tech.
We own Dublin. And to me, that's why I love
(05:20):
college football, and that's why I love rankings. The reason
why I think they are are what they are. Yes,
they're overrated, Yes we're right. We don't know what type
of team we're getting until they start playing one hundred.
But the fact that we put these expectations on these
programs and they have to go out there and they
have to perform with them, and you play a team
(05:40):
that's actually a pretty pretty good team. I mean, Georgia
Tech is not a slippy team. It's a major it's
a major conference team.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And you gotta go out there.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
You gotta beat them, You gotta play, You gotta beat them.
No weeks off, No oh, you'll still make the playoffs
at the early parts of the year, don't matter.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Just keep playing.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Now, you gotta go out there and play or somebody's
gonna clip you. And now every other team that's ranked
and rated has to go into their first week of
games knowing, knowing that the expectations of what they carry,
what they're ranking, is now on the line. It's not
a given. It's not a given you're gonna go out
there and beat a team that's unranked.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So you better.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You better get your head where it's supposed to be,
think about it the right way and approach the game
the right way, and you better play otherwise you're gonna
have forty four and company coming into your house taking
your can, taking your taking taking a kool Aid out
of your.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Refrigerator, and you don't want that. I mean, why doesn't
it happen more? You know, like because we've talked about
it before to where you don't get a preseason, so
you just roll out what you got and if if
teams are a little sluggish or maybe you're not as
it's like you end up. That's why when when somebody
plays a Alabama plays a Wafford or somebody like that
to open up the air, I'm never critical of it
(07:01):
because I always think, dude, they don't get a preseason.
And like Marvin Harrison Junior said this recently. He was like, yeah,
I wish we had like maybe a preseason game in
college football like we have in the NFL, so we
can gear up for the year. Because now you look
at it and you go, so Florida State might have
just if they had national championship hopes, like, yeah, the
expansion of the playoff is going to help, but like
(07:22):
they can't afford to lose the rest of the way. Really,
I mean, like that's a problem for them for the university.
And on the flip side of that, if Georgia Tech
is all high and mighty on this win and Florida
State goes out and lose through three or four games,
this win against a quote unquote top ten team at
the time, it isn't going to amount to much at
the end of the things because we're going to look
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at it and go, yeah, but that team turned out
to be not very good. So you're just basing it
off of we assume this team is going to be good.
There's a ten next to their name, and that's where
we're at at this point in time. The assumption is
based on what they do in recruiting. I mean, that's
what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
If you look at preseason rankings on any given year,
it's in essence recruiting rankings. They are stacking up the
teams they feel like are the most talented because we
believe that the most talented teams end up finding a
way to play in the major bowls and for a
national championship. So that's really what it comes down to.
(08:20):
And as you know, we've kind of touched on like
dju Ungla he comes in as the transfer quarterback. It's
his third school, you know. And I think you have
to pause now too, because the bigger picture discussion is this.
If you have a transfer quarterback and that head coach
went somewhere else and he didn't bring that quarterback with him,
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isn't that a red flag? Isn't that telling you something?
Jonathan Smith is now in Michigan State and Aiden Childs
followed with him from Oregon State. My imagination leads me
to think, like the quarterback with you, well know that
he didn't want ju unless I don't want you exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Absolutely, So I think there's cause for concern for a
lot of programs out there where you find a program
that didn't want to bring their quarterback and then trying
to find the rationale behind it, because clearly Michigan State
needed a quarterback, but Jonathan Smith didn't choose to take
that Oregon State quarterback. He chose to take Aiden Chiles.
(09:25):
So that was the first thing too that I think
bigger picture discussion was brought to the forefront of my
mind of like, well, let's just look at the stats too,
and I'll reiterate what I said a moment ago in
the past decade, there hasn't been a national championship won
by a transfer quarterback with the exception of LSU and
Joe Burrow, and it took him into his second year.
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So when you look at some of the programs that
are looking at bringing in transfer quarterbacks in their final
year of eligibility, I look at it and that's why
I've said I think George is the favorite. Carson Beck
was a kid they recruited. He's come up through their program.
He understands the expectations of Kirby Smart and Georgia, and
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he's been there the entire time building for this moment.
You know, you look at Ohio State with Will Howard
with Dylan Gabriel be they might be tough to beat,
but they both have quarterbacks that didn't choose to initially
go there. Dylan Gabriel's on his third school went to
UCF originally, then Oklahoma, not Oregon. It's tough to be
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able to develop chemistry, to know the offense like the
back of your hand, like you would if you had
been in the program for three or four years. That's
difficult to do. It's difficult to throw at anticipation. It's
difficult to understand the body language of guys running in
out of cuts or when things break down, being able
to look for that guy. I know this guy. I mean,
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when I was in college on a kid, a guy
named Jef Samarge had Marie Stovod Raymon McKnight. I knew
because I'd thrown with them so much what they were
going to do, even when they had their back turn
to me. I knew which way they were going to
try and anticipate all of that because I could read
their body language. It's hard to do that in college,
especially because think about it, I mean, you're limited in
with what you can do because of the hours you're
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allowed to have organized based on the NCAA rules. It
isn't like the pros where you can go ahead and
get together and go go on a vacation of your
downtime and all that stuff, and you're working twenty four
to seven anyway, pre practice, post practice, during practice, you know,
special teams, drills, you're with your wide receivers over there looking.
It's not like that you don't have as much practice time.
So I keep kind of going back to that too,
(11:35):
when you look at the teams that I feel like
have consistency a lot. Oftentimes it's because they've got those
guys who they're rolling in that have been through their program.
And Tom Brady talked about this too, about how now
there's college football teams, they're not programs anymore. They're teams.
I mean, you're kind of signing up to go play
for that team in that year. Whereas a program, you're
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getting there and you're being developed, Like you go in
through it your freshman year and you're kind of putting
on muscle mass, you're getting stronger, you're learning the offense,
you're learning what it means to be a student athlete
at that university. Like all that stuff has gone out
the window now. And I think that's one of the
reasons too, why you see these inconsistencies for players who
are really experienced, or when you go over to Ireland,
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you're like, well, that's not that big of a deal.
Florida State, it's more talented team didn't work out that day.
So I just think it's kind of beware as we
head into Week one of college football, beware for a
lot of those underdogs, because I think there's a number
of teams that like the margin of difference isn't as
big as maybe Vegas things or or I should say,
our friends out West.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It still should be talent that wins out. I just
I don't I'm not exactly sure why FSU came up
short against Georgia Tech. But when you think about those
teams like a Georgia or an organ or an Alabama
or in Ohio State, they stockpile talent. And I think
one of the biggest things that college sports is going
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to have to adjust to in the football rom and
probably another sports as well, is not not being able
to have the stock pal of talent two and three
two and three positions deep. I feel like you can
always look out of Georgia or an Alabama or in
Ohio State. You can always look at those schools and
say that they're going to be a team that contends
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for a national title, because if somebody goes down, there's
not only one player that's ready to step up, there's
two players. I mean, at one point, think about your
boy two of steps in at halftime, at halftime and
wins the national title at halftime, and I know he's there,
and I get all of the things that you're saying,
and there are definitely points well taken, but I still
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think that college football has always been about stock pialing
talent and enough talent where it can carry you through
an entire season to the playoffs, to the championship round
of games.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's that's how I look at it.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
So to me, I looked at Florida State, and I
came away from that game saying, you're not as talented
as they thought you were. You're not as good a
team as the country thought you were. Or it's just
too early and that chemistry or that that continuity just
hasn't taken shape yet. And you know what, unfortunate for you,
fortunate for Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech takes advantage of a
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big stage, puts their name out there. Florida State has
has an aUI the first week out.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean, based on what we've seen so far, four
games into the college football season, it does feel like,
you know, we're gonna see a lot of happy fans
in Morgantown this weekend, and it does you know, if
we're just looking at, uh, looking at how this all well.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean, I'll say it's going to be a challenge.
They have a good quarterback in West Virginia. We have
two new coordinators, So you want to talk about continuity,
talk about getting continuity between coach and play.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They playing Penn State. I don't even know. That's good,
That's all good.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I'm underplay it though. I'm a downplay it. I'm a
downplay it because I think our defense is going to
come out and do what it needs to do. And
I honestly, I think the maturity of Alor and then
the maturity and and the look of our backfield, I
think we're going to surprise people in the passing game,
and I think we're going to be who people thought
we were in a running game. So I'm confident.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I would say the one thing that always stands out,
and I think this is every coach's concern, was when
you go back and watch that game, but really any
of the other college football games that you saw, and going
back to the initial point of there are no preseason games,
right so you don't really have that warm up of hey,
we're full go like this, you got to tackle them
to the ground, right Like. Oftentimes there's limitations to how
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the offensive line and d lines are preparing, how guys
are hitting when they're actually trying to get dives down
to the ground when they're out in space. All that
was to me on display, you know, sloppy, poor tackling
penalties at times. I mean, there's there's those things that
you just can't prepare for until you get out there
and you actually start playing in a real live game scenario.
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And I thought that was one of the things that
stood in the way for Florida State. I thought Georgia
Tech played a bit of a cleaner game as far
as you know, miscues and tackling in general, and just
better play up front. But I think that's the concern
for any you know, favorite going in like a Penn
State for example, which was a double digit favorite. Now
I think they're hovering around about eight points or so
eight and a half, depend on the book. But the
general point is that's that's every coach is concerned. That's
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James Franklin's concern, that's Neil Brown's concern, that's every single
head coach is concerned with that first game of the
season is just trying to play a clean game. I
mean where you're not missing a bunch of tackles or
missing blocks and missing assignments all those things. So I
thought that was one of the things that stood out
to me as well. If you're looking at a reason
for shocking up out Florida State, you ended up losing
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that game. That was another reason. I think you can
tally up there, which again is a concern for everyone
in college football. Think it's a dope point.
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
What I hate him, I hate them. It is the herd.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox feeling in.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
For Colin win anywhere God.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In about twenty minutes from now on the headline News,
you're going to hear maybe the most confident person in
the NFL. But should he be We will break down
his comments coming up here in about twenty minutes from
now here to radio, though, Joonas not no, no, that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Kays are so safe.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Hey, shoot, we would saying before the show started, right,
Jonas has this verbal Kemp movement with us on the
radio and with his his audience. But then when he
leaves the studio, you know, he does his walk out
to his truck, gets into the truck, drives his car
around the corner, puts it in the parking space that
(18:30):
he has reserve forest truck, jumps in the back of
his Maybat with his driver, crosses his leg, lights up
a stogy, and hits to his mansion in thousand notes.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, that's a good point. I like this version of Jonas.
I don't know how real it is, but I would
love to see this. Yeah, I'm telling you, he's Kaiser
so safe. So I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I get far enough away out of the parking lot.
My list gone, everything is got thrown a lung.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Darn. Yeah, I'm just in my tell my driver you
know where to go? Angs grow out.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, man, man, it's all good man.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I appreciate the fact that we get to work with y'all. Yeah,
I get to work with you both.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You know, we got one going on prime time television
with with with Fox his weekend where where my nitny
Lions are going to be playing?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And then I got Kyser Soul safe.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It was It was interesting. Brady did make a change
to his ex profile where it says the face of
Big New Care.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean why not, why not ever have done anything
like that? Didn't do that?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I mean, why not own it? Somebody? Somebody needed to
do it. Somebody needs to get a hold of your
your account right right now.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You know what I need right now, coming off of
this weekend, based on our text conversation last twenty four hours,
I need an update from Lee as to his fantasy draft.
But just an overall wellness check on Lee.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
He looked good man right my wheelhouse, baby, Yeah, he
looked good. A few exture hours of sleep. Look, it
looked like as long as he has that recovery time. See,
we don't get the recovery time usually because it's too
it's two damn early.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But Lee as his fantas.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
So for people that are aret familiar, Lee to Lap
is the executive producer of our show, and he lives
life hard. And Lee had his fantasy draft yesterday and
we asked him like, hey, how's it going, and he said, oh,
I got my wits about me. I'm on my way over.
And you would think, all right, he's got his research,
he's got his pamphlet, he's got you know, his draft
(20:31):
rankings and all that. Now Lee was walking in with
an eighteen rack of beer and tequila shots that were
waiting for him and gold handle and you said, you said,
what was your What were you doing an hour yesterday?
Two and two to two beers? Two shots? Yeah, all right,
fair enough, Yeah, beer at a shot per pick, and
(20:52):
you drafted somebody that had already gotten drafted.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
That I did do that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
DJ war right before me.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Took a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
So somebody's somebody literally said DJ Moore right before you.
And then I took a long time, and then you
drafted Dj Moore again.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, they let me.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
That was the AI for the rest of the draft.
They got Patrick Mahomes out of it. I think I
think did good.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, all right, sounds like.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
But he sounds by the way, listen to him quiet sound.
I mean, he looks good, he sounds good. He's even
dressed up good. He hasn't laughed or smiled too much
to dammy, all systems got all systems go, all systems go.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
No malfunction, now malfunction, malfunction, no malfunction on a Monday
for Lee to laugh.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
If we could just keep.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That room from getting dust cropted by you know, the
dust cropping crew, you know that's in there, we should
be good.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, Greg too. You just can't trust the guy. It's
the problem that really is the problem. It was the
beard that gave it away from me. When I'm bro
my bro be dropping bombs bomb Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it seems like it. Yeah, well, we do have ourselves
a situation. There's a couple of teams that are waiting
(22:10):
to figure out what they're playing as a quarterback. One
of those could be the New England Patriots, who are
going to make a decision very soon because they've got
Jacoby Brissett the backup there or the veteran there, they've
got Drake May. And Jacoby Brissett suffered a little bit
of a shoulder injury in their preseason game against the Commanders,
and so Drake May went in there played pretty well
(22:34):
and so well that the head coach Drod Male even
pointed out that he's out playing Jacoby Brissett, but talked
about what's going into their decision.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
It starts in practice and also in the game, where
you know Drake has played better.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Now in saying that, you know everyone.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Wants to know, like who the starter is going to be,
I think there are multiple factors that kind of have
to go into this decision. One is the total body
of work, whether we're talking about the spraying or the
entirety of training camp. And now I'd also say oftentimes
we forget about just the overall experience that a guy
like Jacoby has and which will also be weighted in
the decision that we have to make.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Here in the near future.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So if Drake May has played better, and he also
pointed this out he was on Weei and pointed out
that he's out played Jacoby Brissett. I mean, doesn't stand
the reason that he would be the guys if you
don't make him the starting quarterback. I mean, what are
you saying, like, Jacoby Brissette's got a shoulder injury too. Yeah,
Like so that's why I'm or was this just Belichick left?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's jamesmanship, It's I mean, that's what Drodmeo knows. And
Mike Tomlin's doing the same thing. Russell Wilson gets to
start in the last preseason game and they pull him
before he could do anything good or bad. Even from
that point, if they get a couple of completions of pickens,
that was it. I mean, at this point, I don't
know why, but at the NFL level they do it.
(23:56):
The coaches still do it. They still act like no
one knows who the Week one starter is going to
be or whoever it's going to be. Like, you don't
have a game plan set up for both quarterbacks. This
is the NFL. You have an entire staff that has helped,
you know, to break down Hey, these are the things
that Russell Wilson struggles with. These are the things that
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Justin Fields struggles with. Soever whoever's in the game, they've
got a game plan oriented to that. Am I wrong, LeVar?
I mean like you've got more than enough time to
prepare for your Week one matchup. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And listen, my first takeaway is we're not going to
name a starter because we don't want you to have
the time to prepare for who's going to play. And
I would imagine unless you plan on playing that game
all season long, which you could possibly do with in
New England or in Pittsburgh, But unless you're planning on
(24:49):
doing that game all year long, this is the one
time where I'd say you can do it and use
it effectively, you know, in terms of going what till Thursday,
maybe maybe Friday, I don't know, but I think you
could try to toe the line and play a game
of chicken with this one in terms of who you're
going to play, just so you kind of give a team,
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you know, their defensive side of the ball something to
you know, it's better to prepare for one and assume
that if he goes down, this is what we have
to deal with with the backup. But it's a totally
different way of preparing as a defense, especially if the
two players have two different ways of playing, two different styles.
(25:30):
If one's more mobile than the other, whatever it maybe
one might be more of a pocket passer than the
other one. It's a little bit more difficult for defense
to settle in and prepare for the guy that they're
going to go up against. So if I'm Mayo, I
drag it out as long as I can, for at
least the first week.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I mean, if he does announce Jacoby Brissett the starter,
I mean, is that an indication that he realizes this
team stinks. We can't keep Drake may healthy, so it
may as well just send you Kobe out there.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like, I don't think that's the message to me. Like
Jakobe is the one.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
That's hurt that they can't keep Kobe. Throw him out
there in a sling, all right. You don't want to
cost this kid his career. Like, you know, you can
game plan around that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Man. I mean at some point too, as a player,
you got to protect yourself. I mean we see this
all the time. We always talk about, well, well, they're
gonna play them when when the guy's ready. No they're not.
They're gonna play them when they feel like they want
to put him in, play them and see what they
have in the guy, because ultimately, you never know the
guy's ready until he gets in the game, and any
showcases whether or not he is.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
They are going to be brutal this year. I'm sorry, man,
I don't have no hope, No, not at all. I
think they're gonna be the worst team in the league.
I'll say that right now. And by the way, for
anybody that wants to say, what about Carolina, do you
see Bryce Young slinging it around out there? It's a
brand new player. If Drake May comes out and starts
slinging it. Yeah, there's always that's the beauty of sport.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
There's always the chance that a number ten can get
knocked off by unrankeding.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
There's also, uh, you know, cut down day in the NFL. Yeah,
today's today's the day. Man kind of say it. That
sucks the end of the roads.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Although we come to the end of this wild still
like go it's I don't belong to them.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh no, they don't belong to me. Now, trash back
your trash bay.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
That's you're going away present, take yours and put it
in the trashy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Although in their defense, it is one of those heavy
duty ones, like the ones that can really handle a
lot of weight. Now one of these cheap ones that
like rips and terrors because they don't want to have
to deal with that mess in the parking lot as
you leave. So it's it's definitely the heavy duty, thicker, uh,
the thicker black ones that you get usually when you're
like on a construction side of throwing stuff off.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yea, So now one of those ninety nine cent store
bags that you get that thick, strong black So here's
but like, what are these guys too? What are these
I wouldn't know what are these guys? All?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Right? So extra heavy duty. So it's over.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And you know, Brady kind of made the point we
were talking about it in the notes back and forth,
like hey, you know, like this really is the end,
Like they're never going to play ever again. It's probably
something they've been doing since here, what nine ten years old,
and it's just six seven, I mean even younger, and
it's just over. So now what do you do? You
get the whole rest of your day and life ahead
of you and you got a trash bag with all
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your stuff in it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
That's not I mean, it's a very stressful time.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Do you just go start drinking immediately, Like you don't
go to a canteena somewhere and just start throwing back.
I got, why can't you don't, I respond, because I'm
more familiar with those than I am. Irish bars to
be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I mean, the reality is, I would say for about
of those that get cut. And by the way, this
isn't like the final cut. It is, but like you're
not safe ever on an NFL roster till week one,
like the day of the game week one, and there's
all sorts of they'll still get rid of you. Well
they still can, but like as a veteran, they can
(29:25):
cut you and then that way they don't have to
guarantee your salary for the rest of the season. There's
all sorts of different rules and stipulations within the collective
bargaining agreement. So that's like a little unknown thing that
flies under the radar, but that's very much in play.
So like I remember guys who you'd come into the
weight room for like your you know, morning lift, and
they'd be all happy and whatnot, and then you'd see
(29:47):
someone walk in and be like, you know, so and
so you know, bring a playbook, um see coach, and
it's like no one's safe, Like you're kind of walking
on eggshells for some of those guys who are on
the back end of the roster who maybe will still
get cut. And reason is you've got a Brandon I you,
Trent Williams. Situations like that that make it more complicated
because you don't know how long they're gonna hold out.
(30:08):
I mean, they can hold out into the season. And
if they do, are you gonna I mean, you're gonna
keep on the roster? Right? Why don't they decide to
come back week two and three? Right? So there's all
sorts of considerations like that that these teams have to
factor in. And on top of it, you know, you've
got guys who will get cut, like we talked about,
will never play again. They're probably getting into coaching, maybe scouting,
(30:31):
or maybe they just move on. Maybe they're going to
something completely different that they studied during their time in college.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Lebar, You've never been cut happier? Yes, I have?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When football wise, Yeah, I was. I was released from
the Commanders my last year there. I mean it was
it was a mutual deal. I mean I gave money
back in order to buy my freedom. But nonetheless, I
mean that's still considered to be fired. Yeah, but not
like this though, where they trash bag. It's kind of
(30:58):
worse because they were trying to hold me. They were
planning on holding me up until my roster bonus kicked in,
and probably cutting me the day before my roster bones What.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Did what did Dan Snyder give you?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like some store brand zip lock bag for the freezer
and whatever you can fit in with you.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't like the flex, I don't. I don't like
the flex at all. But I just never went back.
I learned a lot from Coach prime Man. I never
like what was ever in my locker you got? Because
I didn't have anything personal in there anyway. It's not
like I had to go back for family photos or
anything like that. Some guys do though, oh yeah, oh yeah.
(31:37):
And it's like I probably saw the handwriting on the wall.
So my last year there, there were there were no
personal items in my locker where I've been like, I
gotta go back and get it, Like when I was done,
I was done.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
They would put their girlfriend up there or something like, well,
there would have been a girlfriend they could have had
that too, you know. I know, but that's just a
bad because because I mean, as the locker walking by, and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
And and if they see them at the post game,
tell me, you know, they might say, hell long.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
So if they put a picture of their girlfriend up,
sometimes the picture of their wife back, where were the
picture of their wife being?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And they're probably in their wallet? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Well, I'm just trying to get a sense of this.
I've never been in an NFL locker room, so I'm
just trying to get a sensible.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I don't know of any of those people that you
speak of, but I'm just saying, if that were to
be the situation where you had a girlfriend that was
actually looking good enough to put up in the locker
and a wife that was good enough to be in
your wallet, probably in your wallet. You know. I'm just
speaking on in terms of what it possibly could be
if that's what it was, you know what I mean
(32:41):
with you, I don't know, shots out all the wives.
I hold it down though. I mean, while the girlfriend
gets all the props in the locker, I mean, everybody
got to know to play their role. I mean, this
is professional sports we're talking about. It's true, man, that's
a bit, y'all, that's a bit. Don't y'all hate me
out there. I was just joking. It was just jokes.
Here's what not a joke?
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(33:27):
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Yeah.
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Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated, what are you doing?
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You took those clips totally of context.
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Ryan Music. Yeah, Jonas knocks ready Quinn. Yeah, all right,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Jerry Jones the gift that keeps on giving, that's right.
Talking to longtime Cowboys reporter Clarence Hill Junior, he discussed
some of the criticisms he receives for being the Cowboys GM.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Here's what Jerry had to say.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Quote, I've done it all, so I have an ordinate
amount of confidence that blank, if anybody can figure out
how to get this blank done, I can figure out
how to get it done. So hell no, there's nobody
that could blanking come in here and do all the
contracts and be a GM any better than I can. Plus,
(35:38):
I'm where the buck stops, so when it blanks up,
I got to cover it.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Oh man, Well, I mean he's making some valid points there,
just not all the.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Way, Valley Jerry, Jerry hit up a watering hole and
ox now yeah, let it go.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
So he's also not really doing any of the contracts.
So I would argue I could do that. I mean
I could. I could have the title and not do anything.
I could do that too. You know, maybe you should
be out for the job. Hey, it don't look good.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
D real well, taking a little while and to get
take it a little while for him to do what
it is that he said he's gonna get done.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I just want the CD LAMB hold out to last
into the season.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
So well, Todd doesn't want that, not after he took
all that time to draw up, draw up the LAMB
and put the CD initials up.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
There for a time.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Football shots out the all the fantasy football players out there. Yeah,
hope you got your roster together.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, I think all right, if you had to bet
right now, does the Ceedee Lamb contract get done before
the season, I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Gonna say no.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I just think he wants as much, if not more
than Justin Jefferson, and I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
So i' musa say no. Yeah, I'm gonna go no,
not by the start of the regular season. I'm struggling
with this one because I think he is the best
case of anyone to get it done outside of I
guess I you, But there could be a trade, and
who knows if that happens, how that impacts getting the
deal done. And even then though Ceedee Lambs had better numbers.
(37:13):
So I'm gonna say, for his sake, I hope it happens.
I hope Jerry Jones gets this deal done.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
And the final note on that one was after the
final preseason game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'm still good, is bleep.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Jerry Jones was asked about it and he said, no update,
and I'm only talking about players that are currently here.
So now, he did make it a point to say
last week that Trey Lance is making the roster, like
he wanted to make that clear to everybody that.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Trey Lance is making. It'd be a good thing.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I think if he had his drouthers, Trey Lance would
have did so well in preseason that it positions him
to actually tell Dak that you can either take what
we give you or kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
We got your replacement.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now, the way you said that, like you make it
seem like Trey Lance didn't do well in the preseason,
I mean I think he did. And as as I
said five interceptions, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I don't think he did bad.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I mean, I know that's an exorbitant amount of interceptions in.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
All right.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I mean when you're when your TD ratio to I
in TS is one to five, I mean, is.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That there's no justifying getting rid of that.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I'll say that, yeah, we'll stay in the NFC East.
The preseason has come to a close.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
That means we can officially say not a single projected
starter on offense for the Eagles played a single snap.
Here's what their head coach Nick Sirianni had to say
about that decision. I felt like we got enough work in,
we're ready to go, and we're comfortable with where we are.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Like what I said, I totally agree, get your work
done in practice. Get your work done in practice, and
for what it's worth, if you are going to have
a preseason I get it. Like it's been discussed on
our show. Give the other guys an opportunity to try
to make the roster or make another roster.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I get it. I just don't think you need three
games to do it. But good for college. College doesn't
need any apparently, so there's that well Florida State. I
don't know why people would have an issue with this.
I mean, imagine losing one of your starters in a
preseason game. And you're the Eagles, a team that should
(39:28):
win the nfcas should make a playoff run, potentially a
super Bowl run, especially as stacked as that roster is,
So why would you put any of that at risk
by playing in a preseason game that's not gonna matter
at all. We're talking preseason division standings and all that exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Now not happen in Philly. We're talking preseason. We're not
talking regular season. We're talking preseason, preseason.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
If you're an Eagles fan, didn't you maybe want to
see because like the Chiefs gave Patrick Mahomes a little
bit of a run.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Throw behind his back and get excited at.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
The end of last season, you bring in Kellen Moore,
did you not want to see at least one drive
of what this could look like to start the regular
I bet.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
You Philadelphia Eagles fans, if the Eagles start off slow,
are going to reference back to this not being a
preseason that they took advantage of, and then Nick Sirianni's
going to have to explain it. I bet you that's
what's going to happen. Well, it's just a rational fan base,
so they want to win. Yeah, Pennsylvanias don't like losing.
They don't take the losing kindly. No, No, especially to Ohio.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
We'll wrap up with the boy Phidy.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You ever seen the Pirates play? Last note here we
have a reunion in Kansas. City Wide receiver Juju Smith
Schuster back with the Chiefs after the Patriots released him
earlier this month. Last with the Chiefs in twenty twenty two,
they won the Super Bowl and among wide receivers did
lead the team in yards and receptions.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Oh that could be dangerous, man. That's interesting. Sneaky grab
Like I thought they were pretty stat I mean, is it?
I mean, maybe more of a current. We're concerned with
Racy Rice off the field. They do have Hollywood Brown,
even though he's battled injuries so far. Exave, you're worthy,
you drafted, You've got Kelsey, and they've got some other
receivers too. I mean, maybe they're just able to load up.
(41:19):
That's how it works. But kind of interesting that he
would find his way back there. I understand the desire
because he's going to be in contention for a Super Bowl. Yeah,
but from the chief standpoint, I mean, I guess that's
the system. Possession makes sense.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
But yeah, I would say possession receiver like you like
a backup, like a backup QB, Like throw me in
when you need me.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'm here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Do you still do TikTok dances or I don't know,
not anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I don't know. It's unfortunate and these might be getting bad. Damn,
maybe it's hamstring.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
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