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August 27, 2024 41 mins

Covino & Rich fill in for Colin as they get ready for football season but Covino tries to convince Rich it's still baseball season

They agree there's a consensus among the top 4 QBs in the NFL but can't seem to figure out who number 5 should be

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Surprise, what's going on? Everybody?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome to the show. Covino and rich In. For Colin
on The Herd, I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis.
We got super producer Danny G on the phones and
the numbers eight one eight eight one seven seven five
zero nine.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, give us a call. N right, that number down again?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Eight one eight Okay, eight one seven seven five zero nine.
Danny G the producer with the smoothest radio voice, the
most buttery radio voice in all the land. So when
he answers the phone, don't think it's Barry White or somebody.
Welcome to the show. And of course Tooy and music
are here. Spotty's on the videos. You can play along
at home at Covino and rich on social media. Let

(01:09):
the Wild Rumpus start. Good morning, Good day, it's a
last book you read, Where the Wild Things Are. It's
a great book. You know, I wanna, I wanna to
leave on top. Rich is hard to top that one.
So we're gonna talk about NFL teams that are hard
to predict. The hardest teams to predict this season. I
think there's a really obvious answer. Quarterbacks. We'll talk some

(01:31):
qbs today. But the quarterbacks you'd least likely to be
stuck with the least, the ones you.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Want to party with, the least I want to try again.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, the ones you don't want to hang with for
the most part because of a Justin Herbert story. But Rich,
I'm very pumped because well, I'm a Yankees fan, I'm
a baseball guy, and as you can see here, they're
tops in the Al East. They're slaying it. What a
fun week of baseball history and the making. You know,
we've been ranting about, I've been ritten about. If you're

(02:01):
not watching Show, Hay and Judge, then where the hell
you at?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
You just say where you're at.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You're like everyone else who is so ready to turn
the page on every other sport because football's here, all right,
Bob Seeker, all right, Metallica. You don't turn the page
on baseball unless your team stinks. That's really as simple
as it is. You know, it's like my little league theory.
We just passed the Little League World Series. Congrats again

(02:29):
to Lake Mary, Florida. When you picked no, no, no,
when you sucked. Yeah, and that's where that's where it
all started for you. Little League World Series. Right. There's
a lot of people I talk about, Hey man, you
watch the Little Girld Series and they have this weird
resentment toward it. Like I don't watch that because they
have resentful memories because they stunk at Little League.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And that's why.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So when I ask people if they're still watching baseball,
you still tuned in, They're like, nah, man, it's football season.
I'm like, no, it's not. It's August. It's August. That
just means your team stinks and you're resentful about it.
The Yankees are in it. But it's not even that.
It's not that your Mets think. It's that you just
love football more. Be honest about it. I mean, the

(03:12):
world does. I just looked at I don't think so.
I looked at the average ratings for last year's Major
League Baseball playoffs across ESPN, Fox, TBS, they were down
eight percent last year. The average game four point four
million viewers. I think I'm never going to debate the
ratings and America's love of football, but I think if
you tune out of baseball, it's just because you really

(03:34):
don't love the sport as much as you claim to
love the sport. You're more of a front runner mentality
if your Mets were more in it and they're not
out of it, which is embarrassing too because they're only
three games out of the wildcard now. I think it's
a little embarrassing that you tune out so quickly.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I don't tune out. It's let me give you the flip.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I said, four million people watch Major League Baseball playoff games. Yeah,
guess how many people watched the Lions Chiefs NFL kickoff
last year? And I'm expecting similar or higher numbers for
Ravens Chiefs this year.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
What do you think? I think A well, guess, I'll
just tell me. Take a guess.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
One hundred million, five hundred million, twenty five million people,
twenty five million people versus four million. So NFL World
Buddy Boy, Well again not here to debate that. But
why would you turn the page so fast? Are you
the Starbucks of sports? It's like, can we enjoy the summer?
The dog days of summer? I say, Starbucks, here's another analogy.

(04:29):
You go buy Starbucks. Now they're pushing fall drinks on you, pumpkin, spice,
apple crisp, whatever it is. It's like, yo, dude, it's
summer still. Why are you forcing me? I think summer?
What doesn't end until September twenty something. Twenty second? Can
we enjoy the dog days of baseball? Of summertime? Why
do you need to turn a page? And here's my point.

(04:50):
If your team is out of it, okay, fine, I
get it. You're not as interested you're seeing sho Hey
o Tani, Grab your kid, grab him by the year,
sit them down. Hey little Gregor's you're watching history. We've
never seen anything like this. He's about to go fifty
to fifty and he's primarily a pitcher. This guy's amazing.
No one's ever gone fifty to fifty. Think about when

(05:11):
you were a kid, how pumped you were about Kinseko
going to forty four. I will say this, you know
it's interesting His weighted rookie when the Dodger signed Otani
for that ridiculous deal, and you're like, wow, the first
year he's not even gonna pitch, is it worth it?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I he's so good, he's so zoned.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
That I'm exaggerating, But I almost forgot he pitched right Like,
you're like, this guy, this guy's gonna be a fifty
to fifty guy that you almost forget.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Oh yeah, next year he saw young level.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
In addition to this, he's it's a hats for forty
nine home runs, but I think he could get fifty. Yeah,
And that's exciting to watch. Aaron Judge about to break
his own American League home run record. Dudes on fire
could get the Triple Crown. If what Junior gets into
a little bit of a slump and he continues to
these are exciting things to care about if your team's

(06:02):
out of it. Witnessing greats ruthiean numbers. We're talking like
Babe ruth style of players, and you're like, nah, football,
because your team stinks. This room for both Danny G,
please back me up on that. Dnyg's a Raiders fan.
I know he's pumped about the Raiders. I know he's
pumped about Gardner Minshew, but he's gonna turn.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
His back on his Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Absolutely not no. And I understand where Rich is coming
from because he's a Mets fan, all right, And that's
the only reason why he's about to dip out on baseball.
If you are used to your team being in postseason contention,
then you are still having half of your brain locked
into the MLB. That's that's all of Rich's brain.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
I am.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm let me tell you, I'm about to do freak
nasty the dip and dip out of here, because when
I dip, you dip, we dip. The Mets are three
games out of the wild card. I think if they
lose today, today's day where I'm like a later today
might be the could you claim to be a baseball fan? Little,
I'm a Mets fan. If you're that quick to jump now.
I got a quote Rich, because this is what he

(07:10):
said off the year. I really think and it's sort
of like painting and broad strokes too, because you said.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
I really think football simply just supersedes baseball once football,
once it kicks in, that's it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Baseball's over.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Baseball is not over just because you say so, or
just because football started. I feel like we were talking
to when we were talking to Collin's crew. I think
Tilly music, you know, Big Papa Bear, Ryan, Big Sexy,
a big sexy.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Looking sexy.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Today, I think we all agreed that we all love baseball.
I'll give you an analogy where we are filling in
for Colin. There's there's a month left, and you're like,
I'm done. We're filling it for Colin. So what does
Colin do best analogies? Right, let me do my best.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Colin stars attract stars. Let me let me give you
a Collins keep the scorecard at home. This impersonation is
gonna happen a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
This is I'll give you a Colin. Baseball is like
being at the bar and you're talking to a girl
that's a six. Oh okay, now you might want to
go home with her. You might see there's some fun there.
Colin would never say something now, he's too classy. Yeah,
Baseball's the six that you're sort of okay hanging with.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Then you look at the door and a twelve walks in.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Oh weave that is the NFL, and I'm like, yo, baseball,
it's been nice goodbye, and I dip away to football.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
She's the twelve? Are you sticking around talking to the
girl that you have no future with? I said the
baseball What happened to the rich Davis I met in
the early two thousands? What happened to the rich Davis
that would have said, I could have fun with the
six and the twelve.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I can make a night of this. What happened to
that guy? You know what? Yeah, what happened to that?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I'm just saying, And it goes with what we were
saying with the he's dropping off kids at school, that's
what happens. Yes, you could do exactly what happened to
that guy, rich, mister party guy. You could do both.
You don't have to choose. I don't understand why you
have to choose a loople choose, You don't. That's my point.
Consider me the Oldel passo tortilla girl, you know, the

(09:18):
old al passa tortilla girl. Money. Just call yourself the
old passo tortilla boy. I might as well be. There
is a very famous commercial. At least in the barrio
I grew up in where Jersey I did. I grew
up in Union, New Jersey. But There was a commercial
growing up, and they had this big dilemma of do
they want corn or flower?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Tortillas? Corn or flower.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's a big debate, and the little Oldel Passo tortilla
girl goes, why not both? Why not both? It is ridiculous.
It makes me want to strangle you. Are you saying
this conversation was solid by little tortilla girl? It pretty
much is, uh, why not both? And the answer, by
the way, is flower. If you go for corn, you're
lying because you just want to like eat healthier. Like,
who would choose a corn tortilla? It is a taco Tuesday, Rich,

(10:00):
So would any will be a corn voluntarily? I mean
I got a little I got both. You know what
I have? Both of them are a little tortilla boy.
I'm the tortilla boy. Well, so hold on. I want
to make it very clear if your team's out of
it and Rich's mets aren't on the brink. But let's
say you're a Rockies fan or a pirate sky yeah whatever,

(10:21):
I just gave you two awesome reasons to tune in.
Huge fan of one Eyed Willie. You know Shohey is
doing ridiculous things. These are circus numbers. It's it's it's absurd.
It's like what Jean Carlos Stanton said this week, Aaron
Joe's out here playing video games. He's like Herman Munster

(10:41):
and pinstripes. Every time he connects, every time he hits.
Everything he hits, he just throws. He makes contact and
is gone, and you're like, oh my goodness, he's gonna
break his own record. This guy's insane. He's out here
playing video games while the rest of us are grinding.
He's just that much better than everybody. I'm not sure

(11:02):
if ever I've watched baseball my whole life, I don't
think I've ever seen anyone as locked in as this dude.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And then in the National.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
League you have this superhero by the name of sho
Hey who's doing ridiculous things for you to be able
to say, no, I quit baseball just because. And by
the way, for preseason football, give me a break, talk
about boring. I have it on in the background. I
start falling asleep. They're not playing anybody. I'm not saying
you should be excited for football. Everybody is. I get that,

(11:31):
but I let's enjoy the summer. Let's enjoy baseball while
it's here? So do you turn the page Metallica styles
to go with Metallica? Do you turn the page on
baseball and dive right into football? Is that automatic like
Rich claims.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It to be.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think you could still keep your eye on baseball.
But I'll go back to my bar analogy. By the way,
would you say this? If Polar Bear Pete was here,
he would look at you with disdain, with disgust as
a Google goog at least give me.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
If Lindor was here, he'd be like, what kind of
Mets fan are you? What country you think this is?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
So the Mets have I'll just be selfish for a
second and tell you what I'll determine this on Because
football starts next week. NFL kickoff is a week and
two days away. The Mets play the Garbaggios, the trashiest,
terrible team in baseball. They play the White Sox for
three games next week over the weekend, actually, while the

(12:32):
Braves have to go to Philadelphia. Oh see, that is
the three three. If there's like one or two games
swing there, then I'm in still, But I always say it,
and I can't be the only one I guarantee there's
people that are like, yo, that Rich Davis, He's onto something,
because I feel like the goal of baseball for a
lot of fans is yo, can you keep me interested

(12:53):
at least until football starts?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Now?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's a bonus if your team mix a postseason.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
If you're a Dodgers fan like Danny and you're watching show,
hey be ridiculous and Mookie Betts is back in Freeman
and Munsey and your line up that's ridiculous. Or if
you got Sodo, Judge and Stanton and Belly to Belly
back to back to back home runs, I get it.
But if you're not rooting for an elite baseball team,
I think a lot of goals revolve around hey, could

(13:17):
these sports bring me to football? Wow? And I'll credit
the Mets they kept me interested. I'm starting to lose
it now, But with this weekend series coming up against
the White Sox, the Mets don't sweep the White Sox
in a playoff chase, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I think if you do.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
The math, you could say it's a great time to
be a sports fan, though, because I mean baseball, we
grew up with it, you love it, and football, I
mean there is nothing better than football. I'm just saying,
enjoy the baseball season. Why you can, because it's synonymous
with your summertime. You waited all year for this time
of the year, and you want to fast forward and

(13:56):
jump right into the fall. I say, relax a little bit.
You don't need that pumpkin spicing your life.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Not yet.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
I think with the NFL season interrupts is a random
Angels Tigers game that maybe you'd have on in the background.
But if it's a Monday, Thursday, Sunday, even Saturday, with
college football, you're not going to have that MLB game
on anymore. Yeah, your favorite team in baseball, you're not
going to sleep on them. But it's the casual. It's

(14:21):
the teams were casually watching that we're not going to
pay attention to as much in baseball.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
As as the saying goes, which is true, you could
watch any two football teams. Yeah, you could only watch
your baseball team. It's the truth. Who said that, unless
it's a playoffs Lincoln I think it was, you know,
it was Rutherford B.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Hayes. I remember, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
You see the guy got taff got stuck at a bathtub, right,
it was the president that got stuck at a bathtub
most after he said that, yeah, no, that that is true.
I mean that is the power of the NFL. You
can watch any random game and joy. Take two teams
that you think are in your mind boring Titans Seahawks.
You could watch a Titan Seahawks game and be fully invested.
If I told you right now the season kicks off

(15:04):
tonight with Titan Seahawks, you'd be like, oh, Gino Smith
will Levis. If I told you tonight, can you know
you're gonna watch the uh the Marlins play the Red
Not a chance I give you that.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I'll never I'll never debate that.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
When it comes to base you'll try to sell you
your team bro Cruise, and I'll be like, no, no, no,
my cell. Here, let's make it clear was you're watching
greatness and history in the making. And if you don't
care about greatness, then I have to question your your fandom.
I have to question what you're into. It's like, you
don't need to be a Dodgers fan to appreciate what
some people, some players transcend sports. You don't have to

(15:38):
be a Dodgers guy who appreciate show Hey or a
Yankees fan who appreciate judge what these dudes are doing
her once in a lifetime sort of things. I think
a lot of guys right now are sadly coming to
the realization that at one point in the life they
were baseball. They were talking to some girl like, where'd
she go?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
She ghosted me?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
NFL showed up some better dude, Oh, they're baseball. I've
been baseball. Have you ever been baseball? It gives you characters?
Have you ever been baseball player?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Dude, I think.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And then I saw her with football on social media. God,
and I was like, oh my goodness, she's having so
much fun on our Instagram story with with football.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And it's just a matter of opinion.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
So again, if you have any thoughts, do you turn
the page on baseball automatically? I'm saying that proves you're
not really that big of a fan in your team.
Stinks eight one seven seven five year old nine.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
There's room for both.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Enjoy both eight one seven seven five year old nine
and of course hit us up at Covino and Rich
and speaking of the NFL, speaking of football. We do
this on Tuesdays on a regular time slot show Time
a homes trivia. So Showtime a Home stops by and
we do some multiple choice trivia. Your chance to win

(16:51):
a stainless steel swiggy. What's a swig christ a swaggy?
It makes you uh A twelve turns out to football,
It's it's a stainless steel water bottle.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
With Fox Sports Radio, Cavino on riches Log, No doubt
we're gonna get to that.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Plus the hardest NFL team to assess a week out?
What team confuses the hell out of you? We're gonna
get to that, and we aren't for Colin. So I
want to say, great analogy on the tortilla girl. Oh
you like that baseball football being a girl's at a ball.
I gotta bring analogies when you're filling in for the show. Well,
hey more, Coveno on Rich next in for the Herd

(17:24):
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 2 (17:34):
Welcome back to Coveno and Rich.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
As my dad would say it, just to get the
spelling right, Coveno CoV and oh Coveno.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Everyone spells it with an A no what I love.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, we're Coveno rich By the way, that's Steve Covino. Yeah,
he gets outdone because there's Steve Cavino, random soccer player
in Europe. So when you Google Covino, it's him and
a soccer player. Not only that, Covid sort of ruined
my searches. People try to find our podcast in there.
Ovah Covid. Yeah, flooded with that. So is Covino and

(18:07):
rich In for Colin on The Herd the CNR Show.
And we just discovered j Lab headphones two. We got
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(18:28):
or visit JLab dot com. All right, we're gonna get
to a bunch of NFL stuff because they're the twelve
that walked into the bar. They are. But when I
was thinking about it, rich before we move on, I
was thinking about how you turn the page on baseball
and you jump head first, You dive head first like
Pete Rose into football season.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't blame you, but I.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Realized that NFL caters two more or all of your
degenerate vices. That's really it. Binging, drinking pizza. You're lounging
around all day like a lazy slug man. You're gambling. True,
you know what I mean. So not only are you
excited for the matchups in the games and your team
and the chance of winning right clean slate, it also

(19:11):
allows you to sort of zone out multiple days a
week because your life changes for the next yes till
Valentine's exactly till February. So caters to your vices. I've
said it for years. You have to date someone a
full calendar year before you could even think about proposing,

(19:31):
because you need to see how each other react to
all your seasonal vices. Because, truthfully, imagine dating someone and
they don't know that come football season, you're locked in
on Monday night. Honey, sorry it's Thursday in football Sunday morning,
noon and night. I mean this changes how you you know,
it's so of how you live. It sounds ridiculous, but

(19:53):
I'll sleep on baseball history being made as we speak.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Lent from Idaho hit us up.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
He goes if Otani keeps us up, hands down the
greatest baseball player to have ever played. But that's only
if he could maintain this. Like we said before, you
forgot that he's a pitcher primarily, and what he's doing
is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, uh, you know what I think we should do.
How about some herd line news.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Let's go, this is the herd Line News.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
What's going on? Guys, Good to be with you this morning.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
All right, let's start off with NFL because it's NFL season, right, guys,
That's the only thing we're focused on right now. Cavino
is so aggravated Ryan because Covino knows that I've already
had a pumpkinspice drink, my wife wants, my wife wants
to put up Halloween decorations, and I'm talking about football.
If you don't want to sit by the pool and

(20:46):
watch baseball, why don't you wear a turtleneck your big nerdy?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
All right?

Speaker 3 (20:50):
The big news in the NFL was, of course, Cowboys
signing wide receiver Seeding Lamb to that massive contract extension.
Good for him, Fantasy footballers breathe a deep sigh of
relief as well. Another advice that people wait to fintashy
jump into yeah all right, But we turned our attention
to Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy because he has not

(21:10):
received that contract extension, so he's entering the final year
of his deal with the season kicking off next week.
Now here's what Jerry Jones had to say about that
contract situation. There's no question in my mind that the angst,
pressure and competing will bring out the best in this
game from both coaches and players entering the final year

(21:31):
of the contract. Jerry Jones has a way with words, Yeah,
like yo, Mike McCarthy, pressure's on, buddy boy, Like YO, deliver,
or we're gonna get Bill Belichick next year or someone
Never a good feeling, because the unspoken word is like,
oh man, I'm really under some heat going into the
final year of this deal. But then you got the
owner just coming out publicly being like, that's right, Yes,

(21:53):
you are no extension. You'll perform under the pressure, right McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
You can't be can't be feeling too great if you're
Mike McCarthy. I mean, obviously back to back to back
twelve win regular seasons, but not a lot in the playoffs,
leaving a little bits of desire. What do you think,
Ryan Danny g could you know what? What do you guys
think it would take McCarthy to keep his job. Is
another twelve win season, early playoff exit enough or I
don't think so.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Now I get it.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's almost like NFC Championship, super Bowl or bust that
they they are constantly spinning the wheel trying to figure
it out. I definitely think a NFC championship game because
it's been three decades or whatever since they've been there.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, you know, all the rumors are that Bill Belichick
is waiting in the wings. But also you got to
think Jerry Jones wants a coach that he can really manipulate.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah. I mean he's always been that way.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's why Jason Garrett was able to survive as long
as he did despite some mediocre seasons.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Not to be morbid, he's also getting very old Jersey.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
He might want one more, yeah, before it's too late.
But it's a sport of winning, right, Yeah. And they're
winning just enough to bring people in and to keep
them there. So as long as they're making money and
they are, it doesn't really force to change that much.
I mean, Jeff Jones wants it. Yeah, And I think
I think to Danny's point. You know, yesterday there was

(23:13):
the article from Clarence Hill Junior where basically Jerry completely
pushed back against anyone whoever questions him as the GM.
So I think to what Danny was saying, is very
much still in the mindset of.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
This my team. I run the show. Yeah, everything stops here,
so you don't.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
It's like it's like, you know, when there's always that
person is like, I'll defend myself in court.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Get a lawyer, Get a lawyer. No, I'm going to
defend myself. No, get a GM. Come on, all right,
we'll stay in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Though. ESPN surveyed over one hundred current NFL players and
had them vote on a variety of categories relating to quarterbacks.
Now here's what stuck out to me. Most handsome Jimmy Gruppol.
That actually wouldn't stick out to me. That would be
que obviously, most overrated Josh Allen. Now I was like, okay,

(24:06):
not sure, but let me just kind of keep scrolling
through here. Then I come to another category, biggest trash
talker Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
So do we think there's some overlap there.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Without a doubt? Yeah, now it makes sense. But I
think it's surprising to know that he's that type of guy. Look,
all these dudes on this level, they talked trash for
the most part. I didn't realize he was like known
as the most trash talking QB in the league, right,
and that's why they don't like him. I mean, Joe
Burrow has you know, publicly said that he doesn't think
there should be taunting penalties in the NFL because he's like, yo, see,

(24:40):
we're grown men playing football, relax, right, Yeah, the trash
talking thing. I think with Josh Allen, even if you
talk a lot of trash, it's the classic dude backs
it up, so.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
It is tough. It's just part of his game. That's
how I see it. Yeah, I mean, and we've also
seen Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Though Mahomes could be kind of a little goofy sometimes
with the trash stack right here, it.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Just doesn't sound as intimidating coming from his voice.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I know, I know it's but I mean, obviously he's
great too and backs it up. I'm always surprised because
with Josh Allen, I guess people have been talking about
him and Mahomes are on the same level, and maybe
that's why there's the reaction to him being overrated, because
obviously he hasn't even gone to a super Bowl, but like,
the dude has been lights out in the playoffs and

(25:33):
it's been like the defense or something like that that
sort of let them down. So I still, even with
the trash talking, I find it a little surprising.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That he gives it all.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
And you know, we always see this if you're considered overrated,
he had to be really highly rated to begin with,
and he's highly rated for a reason. Sure, absolutely, all right,
we'll wrap up with this actually go from NFL to
college football, which is already underway with Week zero over
the weekend, and then we get things fully underweigh this
upcoming weekend debuted a new documentary, Sign Stealer, going in

(26:03):
depth on the alleged Michigan football sign stealing scheme, focusing
on Connor Stallions.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
In this documentary, they feature footage from Stallions his interview
with NCAA investigators, and he continued to maintain his innocence.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I did not obtain signals through in person scouting, and no,
I do not recall directing anyone to go to a
game and film sidelines. Guys, he got the memo first
rule of fight club.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
There is no fun.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'll talk about fight club listen. I find there's when
things like this happen, like oh was he stealing signs?
And I find these things once we're past them, when
people are harping on them, like let's move forward. What's
gonna I don't know. I get it they do these investigations.
But as a matter if den I till you die
or just on off to it so you can move
forward and move on tonight right to It's one of
those I think with someone like Connor Stallions and what

(26:59):
we seeing with the development of college football and where
it stands now, like why even admit it?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Like what's the NC double A really gonna do to?

Speaker 6 (27:09):
You know?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
This isn't like lying to the FBI, where it's like, okay,
you're you're in some serious problems here, you know, like
you know what.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
It's a suspended the juicy sign stealing story.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
But when I was in high school, right my my
friends were probably drunk and whatever, and they were riding
on Route twenty two.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
In Union, New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
The guys were putting in the light bulbs at Taco Bell,
so they took the sign down.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
That's a that's that's signs still no.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
No, but like a big you know one on the highway,
so it's big there, so hold on. They took it down.
No no, no, the people changing light bulbs took it down. Okay,
So my friends are driving by and they thought it
would be the greatest idea to steal this somehow and
leave it on my front lawn.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Racist, it's going up in New Jersey. I'm probably the
only Mexican kiddy knew. They're like, oh toghos Camino. So
while the dudes are changing the light bulbs, they take
it and they put it on their car somehow.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
They drive all the way to my house. They leave
it on a tree that things set there. My dad
will be like, can you get these out of my house?
Get these sign out of that was like in our
garage for twenty something year. It's this big, gigantic wow
bill sign sign stealing story that is signal that is
actually better than the whole Michigan College. I just don't
know how you drive down the highway and you need

(28:30):
a car with that on the top. You know what
I mean, how the wind doesn't catch it or something
that's about how the wind doesn't catch it if you
just passed by one cop.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's it's like the Seinfeld bit where a guy thinks
he could hold a mattress with one hand. I got it.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
It was they left it on, you know, a leaning
on a tree in my front yard. We came outside.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
What the hell is that? So taking it back on
a Tuesday, legendary story, at least for me. Thank you, Ryan.
That's the herd Line News.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
You know, you talked about Josh Allen Ryan during the
Headline News. I had respect them more Rich after hearing that,
I'm like, yeah, and he's a trash talker.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Cool. I like that.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I wanted to get a I want to take the
temperature on this question again. We touched on this briefly
on our Afternoon Covin on Rich show. You talk about
Josh Allen, you brought up Mahomes, We brought up Joe
Burrow and Lamar Jackson. I think universally, those are considered
your top four quarterbacks. I feel like I've heard people
on the network talk talk about it. We've talked about it.

(29:31):
So Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, you might
not agree with that top four, but if you do,
who is your number five? Because I feel like there's
a slight dip after that, and some would say Herbert,
some might say well Dak. And I bring this up
also because if you remember, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

(29:52):
both sat down and gave those identical four. So you
talk about two of the great to the last twenty
five years, they said Alan, Mahomes, Burrow, Brady refused to
name a fifth, Herbert was brought up, and Peyton Manning reluctant,
was like a fifth, maybe Herbert? So is there a
fifth to you? Is there someone this year that could
have that breakout? Is it Jordan Love who I know

(30:12):
Colin said is his MVP pick?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, that was a bold take. Is it Dak who's
playing for a lot this year?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And say it's probably I think it's gonna be Dak,
and I know it get a lot of pushback because
he's a cowboy because he's DAK, but I think he
has a lot to play for. He's looking for that
fat contract. He may end up somewhere else and be
that guy, but I didn't think he's been around long enough.
His numbers back it up. You said something that I
agreed with him that I heard Colin during one of

(30:39):
the promos. We said, are we forgetting Aaron Rodgers? And
then you got to remember, Aaron Rodgers hasn't been elite
in a couple of years, and a couple of years
in the NFL is seems like an eternity. I'm just
surprised they didn't say Aaron Rodgers being who he is
and just knowing his resume and leadership, just being a
veteran in the league, because he comes to mind. I

(30:59):
also find a surprise that guys like Jalen Hurts, who
if it was a year ago, you would have had
him right there. But one bad year, he's like, nah,
he took a step back. It seemed right, Yeah, but
you can't write him off. I mean, I believe he
led the league in quarterback turnovers, so you can't really
put him number five when.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
You have one bad year and that's it.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's craziness to me, right, I'm just saying, like, that's
surprising that you just write it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
He's not even in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
You start going division by division, you start canceling out
guys like Danny. If I would have to show you
how many great quarterbacks there are, because that fifth spot,
it would be a multitude of people.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's up for grabs.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
If I said AFC East, we already said Josh Allen,
Aaron Rodgers will getting old New England's a you know,
that's a work in progress. If I said Tua, is
he even a possibility? I mean he just got paid
a ton. Is in top five.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I mean he could round out the top ten maybe,
But I think vying for the number five spot would
be Herbert and C. J. Stroud.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
There's another one.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, but what about if Anthony Richardson comes back and
lights it up exactly exactly? Hey, if you had to
make that decision, I know you you hate Mount rushmore
as rich as do I.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I like the backside of the Mount Rush.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Now people don't know this asses on the backside on
the back my goodness, you got to go check that out.
But if you were in charge of making the top
five top five you had, you had a fix, had
to extend the mount Rushmore, you had to sign it off.
All right, well this is the fifth guy, and who
would it be? Because I don't think anyone would debate
the four that you said Mahomes, Alan Burrow Jackson. I

(32:27):
mean my answer your dad knowing your dad, Jersey guy,
he would say, Rich is kissing ass. Because I'm gonna
agree with Colin. I think I think of Jordan Love kissing. Yeah,
you're feeling me for Colin. You kiss it isn't I
do think. I do think there's something to be said
about Jordan Love. One of my softball buddies used the
perfect word. The first half last year, Jordan Love was pedestrian.

(32:51):
He was like, you know, because I listen. We talked
about it, Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, people on every network
were saying, Jordan Love, maybe he's not the guy.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
And then something happened.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I don't know if him and Matt Lafleur had a
you know, had a pow wow, they had a nice uh,
they sat or a nice pumpkinspice a lot and had
a conversation. Something happened and Jordan Love went from maybe
he's not the guy too, Yo, he's the guy. He's
top five like that though, So you're right off Hurts,

(33:22):
but you'll write in love just based on one good guy.
Let me let me give you. Let me give you
a legacy question you asked. Sometimes one thing ruins the
guy's legacy. Jared Goff, number one pick, got the Rams
to the Super Bowl. That was the most boring thirteen
to three super Bowl they got. They got beat by
the Patriots. If you're saying he got exposed to way,

(33:43):
but that was also Gurley was done at that point.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
He just heard.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
It wasn't the same. But if that, if Goff and
the Rams had beaten the Patriots in that super Bowl
and Gof's a super Bowl champ, the Stafford trade probably
never happens. And I think, oh maybe, but I think
Stafford the fifth guys the super Bowl champion. I just
think that that matters, right. I Mean, here's guys that
have won. You're not gonna count them.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, Jered Goff didn't win, and.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Some guys are. Then you gotta throw Russell Wilson in
that conversation. And you know he's not in that Russell Wilson.
He shouldn't be starting. You're not in that conversation anymore obviously.
All right, well, hey, here's that fifth spy. It's a
fun one.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
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Speaker 3 (35:23):
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Speaker 2 (35:30):
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ex wife. Yeah, you're right. Hey, we got a lot
to get to. We're gonna talk a lot of NFL
today because, as I said at the beginning of the show,
I've turned the page on baseball because I feel like, uh,
you know, convinced me too.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
He convinced me from the herd.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, because he's like, you know, your Mets have a
couple easy series coming up, but they end against like Phillies,
Braves all like the Brewers, like the Mets would have to.
It's when you tune in and you believe in your
team and you root them on. Williams, Williams, get it done,
fair weathered man, it really is. That's you tuning out

(37:24):
because you think they don't have a shot. That's ridiculous.
I still watch every day Bozo. I just can't. I
can't fake my optimism. Rich doesn't really watch though I
have it on. I enjoy it forward last night. Last
night I was watching The Bachelorette or something. It's like, Yo,
you can't fast forward through the game like that, enjoy it.

(37:44):
Bachelorette is worth fast forwarding through. It's not even worth watching,
I don't think. And I'm a fan. I do watch
that super show. It's the last I'm boring. So last night,
Cavino and I meet one of our old pals that
we worked with at ESPN, Janelle, and we met out
for a couple drinks a couple appetizers at a bar.
It was nice, Coveno because hey, Janelle, because it's you

(38:08):
and I haven't seen you in a while. He turns
the Yankee game off his phone. He started dinner YEA
with his phone up to watch game number one thirty
six fans. Dude, oh, He's like history for you, I'm
gonna turn it off. And I was like, for you,
how about you turn off because we're at a restaurant.
Sorry that no one cares about Pete Alonzo hitting home

(38:30):
runs a big goon. No one cares about him. People
care about Aaron Judge. That's the truth. And Soto and
Stanton back to back to back and belly to belly
to belly. So I mean, that's just how you do
it when you're a fan. And my fandom for the
Yankees supersedes any other team, to be honest, when it
comes to NFL. For me, it's all about the matchups.
Show me the matchups. I don't care about teams the

(38:51):
way I care about the Yankees. All. We have lots
of things to talk about as far as teams in
the NFL. What's the team that's hardest to predict? We
gotta get to that.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's uh, it's interesting because you see the you see
every analyst and the website and publication and blogger doing there.
Here's my standings predictions for the twenty twenty four NFL season.
And as you know, this is no surprise. Every year
they're on average are six to seven teams that made

(39:27):
the postseason the previous year that are out, and there's
new teams that enter the mix, and it might seem
and because you go through this every year, you look
at it and you're like, well, not this year, because
the same teams are gonna you know, and without fail,
they'll be a Cowboys or Bills or dare I say
Niners or Chiefs. Someone will take a step back, maybe

(39:49):
it's a huge knockout, wood quarterback injury, something will prevent
what you think is a power team to make it
to the playoffs again. And that's what makes the NFL exciting.
You always say parody, parody, it's fantastic because you look
at the standings and you'd be quick to say, well,
of course, I could already tell you ten teams that'll

(40:11):
make it. And that's just as Barack Obama would say,
that's a simply not true. But I got to ask,
of all the NFL teams, when you go through each division,
all thirty two of them, what team is the hardest
to predict where they're going to stand. I think there's
a really obvious answer. There's a clear number one, not
even where they stay create it's a Spider Harrison countdown

(40:33):
if it was Casey case and there's a clear number
one here. But I want to when I say you're
not sure, meaning you're saying this team could be six
and eleven or eleven and six and you wouldn't be
shocked either way. Like it's it's not like, well, we'll
make the playoffs. It might win thirteen games or ten.
You're saying this could this team could be vying for
a draft pick or fighting for a super Bowl. Like

(40:54):
you're that confused on the team, Start.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Let's get involved, right The most inclusive, most interactive show
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